Why the 718 Cayman GTS 4.0 is the Best Everyday Porsche
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- This is the 2022 Porsche 718 Cayman GTS 4.0. For those of you who have been following the channel, you'll know that I've been debating between purchasing this or the Lotus Emira. Let's see how the two compare.
My friend @Zygrene also made a video comparing the 2022 Porsche Cayman 718 GTS to the 1991 Acura NSX. You can find his video here: • 1991 Acura NSX vs 2022...
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2022 Porsche 718 Cayman GTS 4.0
Engine: 4.0L 6-cylinder
Transmission: 6-speed manual
Horsepower: 394 @ 7000 rpm
Torque: 309 lb-ft @ 5000 rpm
Curb weight: 3,166 lbs
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TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 - Introduction
00:40 - POV Review
06:38 - Final Thoughts - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Thanks for doing this comparison of my vehicle against the Emira which I also had a deposit on. It came down to dealer network and the more subtle stealthy look of the Cayman. The Emira is definitely a looker and would turn too many heads for my liking. I just wished they offered PCCB for my model year only the 2020’s had them. The brake dust on the black wheels is a nightmare!
Thank you for the opportunity!! Great car and great choice. Enjoy it in good health
emira is too slow for what it costs
My car is build in 2023 and has PCCB, because I ordered it 2021, a few weeks before they closed this option ;o) - lucky me...
Ceramic coat them
@@drunvert. I did ceramic coat my wheels but that doesn't make the brake dust go away. It is easier to clean though.
I have this Cayman in FrozenBerry Metallic, PDK.
Drive her daily in the Bay Area , she puts a smile on my face whether Im on backroads, highway, or going to get groceries.
The engine and the balance are awesome.
Excellent vid
Very good review, thanks
Muddy Mines road! Just ordered a GTS 4.0L Cayman MT this afternoon from Porsche Livermore. Great review. “F yes” - perfectly summarized.
I have the Cayman and love it . There is no other car!
I got the Cayman GTS 4.0 as well. For one, I did have my name in the bucket for an Emira, as well, but the experience is just non-existent? no nothing for a year and I'm like whatever, I'm over it. Where as Porsche experience is... more than just the car itself. Lotus, it's just the car and that's it. 2. The Porsche, even though it can just be a fun weekend car, it can also be a daily. Where as, the Lotus, even with it being much more refined, somehow to me it feels like a second car at best to me. 3. Even between mid-engined cars, there are mid-engined cars that make you feel like you're sitting on the nose of the car over the front axle vs the Cayman that still makes you feel like you're also in the middle of the car. and that changes the dynamics for me dramatically. to me, the cayman rotates around you vs the Emira feels a bit more like the rear swings around you. It's hard to explain... 3. The engine.. my gawd the engine... The Lotus, even when supercharged, it's basically the same engine family as my old IS350, my Tacoma - the 2GR-xxx 3.5L v6. Really not special at all. I don't want to pay $100k and when I park the Emira next to my Tacoma know in my hear that the two have the same heart. 4. Yes the Emira looks like an exotic car, but Even the cayman in the right bright color looks amazing. Mine is Lava Orange. and just last week, a dude in a blue Range Rover stopped me on the street and asked what color it was and said "that car is fcking hot man! fcking hot!". In the right color the Cayman also turns all kinds of heads.
Love the Lowe-end induction sound! Reminds me of driving all the exotic cars in video games as a kid!
Intoxicating 🤤
Lotus or Porsche, is a no-brainer but more like a personal preference. For me, it's the Porsche, and there is no alternative.
I lean (no pun intended) to do track days on my GSXR. This GTS 4.0 would be the ideal daily I think. So, like you said if you're not tracking the car this is the one to get. It is tempting to pony up 5k more here, 5k more there and 10 min later on the Porsche website you've spec'd out a 300k car; this seems to be the attainable sweetspot imho. Naturally aspirated flat 6 w that manual sounds like heaven, also Porsche reliability comparatively!
Oooh I need to check out your Lotus drive now 😊
the colour of this cayman is super cool, my dream car is this porsche 4.0 gts and i like it even more now
I got Cayman. Mostly because it was available for a test drive and there was at least some sort of deadline for delivery. But overall even if I had options, I'd still go for Cayman, because PDK is better than torque converter that goes with V6. I also like the subtle looks more, and the practicality is much better. Had it for 2 weeks, couldn't be happier with it.
You mean you have the regular turbo flat 4? I have the 718T tuned with a Kline Innovation downpipe, sport cat 100 cells, remap and it s now at 392 hp . It s a blast! Love mine too with the pDK and sport chrono. This gives consistent 3.7s 0 to 62.
Already looking for the next one but hesitate between the C7 z06 or the new Lotus Emira. But I live the 718 for sure! Enjoy yours bro.
@@skyhawkheavy7524 Thanks! I see you're already having fun with yours :P I am still amazed at how much power you can squeeze out of these 2L boxers.
I got 4 liter flat 6. The lack of torque in lower end is noticeable and it does not give you rocket launches, but I like the linear power delivery.
@@Dragobrath just give it a tune for engine and pdk gearbox.
I own a 2.5 cayman GTS and love it. The torque band, the steering, the balance… it’s nimble and quick and a blast to whip in and out of traffic. I split it as daily driver use with a few other cars I have. I just drove from Savannah Georgia to Orlando fl on 1 tank of gas round trip. That’s insane!
The exhaust note isn’t “as” good as a 6 or 8, obviously, but it honestly still sounds great. I also have a flat 6 992, and a Shelby GT350.. and as glorious as those are, the 4cyl does not dissapoint
I would like to agree on your comments!!😊
I have the same car, used to have a 981 with the flat 6 and the 2.5t fits this chassis SO much better. It’s the most fun car I’ve ever owned, the boost pressure is insane
I know what you’re saying. The more you step on it the better the sounds. The 2.5 it fits my BGTS so well its so light and quick at everything. I opted for the PDk because it is so dang fast. Unless you actually drive this car spirited will you understand its 911 Turbo S VTG derived benefits - near zero lag full torque beginning at 1900 rpm all the way to 5500. That’s this model appeal. I am still quite fond of my manual 987.1 CS 3.4 and manual M3 sedan V8 for their sounds and driving characteristics as well. If I had room for a fourth I would strongly consider the manual 4.0 or the Emira or possibly an Exige. Should I consider trading the 2.5 for the 4.0 for a 40k trade premium? Absolutely not. What if the cost was zero would I go for the 4.0? I cant say because I haven’t driven the 4.0. I do know that I am very happy with what I have. Ok well how about the CS 3.4 for a CGTS for an 80k trade premium? Definitely if I could have just one sports car otherwise no I’m good with the 3.4. I smile every time I drive it. Anyway they are all great cars and the Shelby GT350 sounds like a real privilege as well.
Ive had a few caymans my 718 2.5 being number 6 😀 struggled upgrading from my 981 glorious 6 to the 2.5 but omg, what car! Stage 2 tune has me pulling harder then a gt3 over the quarter! Insane how hard this motor can pull numbers. Its also much better as a daily driver with high numbers coming from low. Tbh my biggest question was over possible turbo lag post tune but non existent thanks to it adopting the 911 vgt
Looks and sounds great and probably even better to drive.
Awesome review! I have a GT350 and recently sold it for a GTS4.0 PDK. However I am not impressed with the engine noise and feels missing my third paddle. Should I get a manual GT4 or switch back to the 350? Or maybe you could do a comparison video between the gts4.0 and GT4? Thanks you.
I love my 718 with PDK. It’s totally awesome.
I ordered the Emira. The looks, steering, and damper compliance were my main reasons. I had a 911S that I loved; I couldn’t buy a Boxster/Cayman because I’d rather have another 911. I don’t have that issue with the Emira.
992> any 718 hope you get another one soon bro
Love your channel and Zy’s! If one doesn’t have a vid out the other does. Tbh I think I would get both. I would buy what I think would be harder to get your hands on in prestigious condition. I would also base my decision if I were to buy one used which one could I live with not being the original owner. Id probably get the Porsche because eventually they will all be PDK. The cayman is a do it all kind of car to me and works for every occasion and entire. Then I double back for the lotus when funds permitted lol
Thanks for watching! That’s the dream, to get both
Hi, what color is? Great video!
I love Caymans color. Beautiful!
Thank you for making this review I like Porsche Cayman Gts but I'm a little disappointed with two things carbon bucket seats and just two seats even some people will be disappointed about this but overall this car looks great sound is nice
I had a deposit down on an Emira but got cold feet and bought one of these. I tested the Emira and it was every bit a very special car, amazing looks, steering, interior, feel, sound (love the SC wheeze) but I just wasn’t comfortable spending that amount of money on something that seemed to be a bit flaky still, maybe after a year or so of production they will be better. Each time I went to see it there was a small issue (it wouldn’t turn on one time, or the boot wouldn’t open were two problems). The GTS is in my mind is almost perfect, doesn’t look or feel quite as special and the steering isn’t as ‘alive’ as the Lotus (but the Emira can be a bit twitchy, I guess you get used to it) but the build quality is absolutely fantastic, the stereo (Bose in mine) is great and it is far more easy to live with - better storage and your stuff doesn’t get wet when you open the boot (crazy design flaw on the lotus). The Emira is an incredible car and I love it but it’s not for me. My GTS is Python green and all black (callipers, Porsche logo etc) and I love it! Nice video :)
Can’t go wrong either way. Enjoy!
I’d go Porsche for the sole reason that I could get it serviced more easily
Very real point that many of us don't think about until it's too late
I got the last GTS produced with PCCB 10 days ago and this car is a hammer! Forget the Lotus, it is overprized british crap.
The GTS 4.0 is in my opinion too low priced by Porsche compared to the 911 and what the car can do.
In Germany the long gearing is no problem, because in smal twisty roads there is no radar and no cops, you just go as fast as you want.
Topspeed after 3000km running in was 323 on the speedo, that was quite unexpected and is quite crazy...
Your GTS 4.0 did 200mph? That’s crazy. Must have been a strong tail wind? Have you seen these engines make 500hp after exhaust and tune?
@@BurnsRubber It was in the area of Göttingen (Germany) and maybe it was a bit downhill, but not much. I cant explain it myself. It just reved up and up and did not stop...
I am not interested in tuning my GTS 4.0, I will only adjust camber a bit. This car ist my 12 month daily.
For the Nordschleife I have a 964 C2 with 4.1 liter... ;o)
@@broder998 Nice daily! I have a GTS 4.0 manual in Gentian Blue on order, should get it before the end of the year. Jealous you have the nordschleife to play on!
Oh, great! So your GTS 4.0 is 18 km/h faster than a GT4 RS (speedo) - you can check reviews on TH-cam. And by the way: I drive a Cayman GTS 4.0 myself and in Germany too…
what color is that? thanks
did you mention which has a more comfortable ride on everyday roads? your title falls short of the answer. i'm planning to pick one of these two up at the factory and touring europe and this video didn't help me pick
nice review, great detail and enthusiasm
I have a cgts 4.0 manual, would go for the emira as a second car but the gts 4.0 if I could only have one car
in terms of enjoyment it's really how much you value a special engine over other aspects of a car, the supercharged Toyota v6 can't compare to a NA porsche flat six
Yeah the cayman is most likely a better performer as well as more reliable… but the Emira looks beautiful. That’s a tough one… I guess it depends on what’s more important to you.
My 992 911S was the best daily till I crashed it and got 9 out possible 12 points for speeding. I’ve ordered another one delivery 2024. Till then I got a new slow Audi to carry me through
I had an Emira on order and after nearly 18 months and still no ETA I cancelled the order and went for the GTS. Now that I have seen an Emira in the flesh for the first time in Australia and the finish quality I am so glad I went with the Porsche. So many issues with the Emira
What issues are you seeing with Emira?
@@jubbalandcars From what I have seen in reviews and on forums there are a few minor issues on the stereo (not that you buy a car like this for the radio) wiper controls not working, ECU issues, trim coming off and there seems to be a design issue with the rear boot lid that when there is water there and you open the rear to get to the boot the water goes over the motor and into the boot. Compare that to the build quality of the Porsche and there is no competition.
I changed my GTS4.0 shifter to the GT4 short shifter which feels mildly-moderately shorter & stiffer. Now debating whether to swap it to the Numeric shifter with the stiffer spring which will make it more mechanical & bolt action in feel.
I loved the numeric in the 911T I drove - review coming out in a few weeks
Similar driving experiences but more modern interior and exterior in the Emira!
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i will take........both. But without the roof (Boxster) and that lovely , beautifull Lotus..........I wish...
I am biased, as i have a 2015 Boxster GTS, manual transmission and i have a 2024Boxster GTS 4.0 on order. It took me almost two years to decide what to buy and the Emira was second on the list. The deciding factor is build quality. With a low production British car you must count on quality issues, ranging from electrical issues to trim issues and everything-in between. When i go for a drive i want to enjoy the drive and not worry about breakdowns or get annoyed with squeaks or rattles. Although the Emira beats the Boxster in looks every day, looking at the car in the garage being repaired gets long in the tooth quickly, hence my choice for Porsche. As an FYI with 40,000 km’s on the clock, never over the last 8 years did i have a problem with the Porsche period.
Valid reason and valid points.Can see people going both ways as two great options
I envy your dilemma! I'm happy with my 22 BRZ 6MT but those are dream cars. I'd probably go with the Porsche just because that engine and the interior quality/design, but the Lotus for everything else. I'm not a huge fan of the Cayman body style, on the other hand the Lotus is insane gorgeous.
Can’t go wrong with either choice
Lucky to have you in my shoes…
I too am waiting on an Emira order but cross shopping a Boxster/Cayman GTS and if finances allow, a Spyder. I really love the Porsche build quality compared to the currently-glitchy-and-delayed Emira. However, it’s also very much about looks, drama, and driving experience. First world problems.
Ps, surprised to hear you say the Emira has a better transmission. Granted, I have yet to drive the Emira. All my perspective has been based on other’s reviews.
I was pleasantly surprised with Emira transmission considering prior lotus gear shifts. Better shifter, worse clutch feel and clutch pedal placement
@@jubbalandcars
Given the Emira’s pedal placement, I can see that. Regarding the clutch, I heard the take up point changes over some break in miles. Hopefully it simply gets better.
If I go Porsche, I think I’d go for the Boxster. That way, even if you can’t wind out the gears, you’ll still have the open air experience for a heightened sense of occasion.
Do you have SPASM or PASM?
Is that Agate Gray or Aventurine Green?
Don’t forget that 2.5 GTS - great car
Great car but the 4.0 gives that much more
I own a Cayman 981 but I wouldn’t consider a Cayman as best everyday Porsche. For me that’s my Macan GTS 2023. I also would consider if I could afford it the new 911 Dakar. The Macan faired very well against the Dakar in a recent Carwow test.
This thing is child's play compared to the V6 Accord you pulled up next to at the end though 👌👌👌
Truth
Meaning you are a soccer mom!
Cayman GTS 4.0 all day, it’s gonna still work after 4-5 years. Plus that engine::::::::::::::::❤
8:00 Emira 6MT FTW!
You couldn’t find a better road? Love the high rev 4.0 sound. Funny HP and torque numbers seem unimpressive but what a car.
I think this is a great road - a bit bumpy at times to help assess suspension rather than a glass surfaced canyon road
The Lotus will likely spend more time in the shop!
I want to run to down to the dealer right now.
The interior is old but still way better than new cars so we’ll build and as you would want it
You said it, the engine in the p car is just special and the engine is the soul of any sports car. The toyota engine in the emira will always be the weakest link with an annoying whine
Absolutely no question I'd go with the GTS for several reasons: 1. More dealerships around the country means more service locations. 2. The 4 cylinder inline 6 is a tried and true, reliable engine. 3. It's a prettier car.
2. Flat 6
3. Agree to disagree
I have a really hard time choosing between this and the Lotus Emira. Lotus Emira sounds better, has better steering feedback, better suspension and better looks. But this Porsche has better quality, better service, narrower, more practical.
One thing nobody talks about is the fact that digitalisation (which the emira is a victim of now with a full digital dashboard and big screen in the middle) is the first thing to look horrible in the interior with time, and I'd much rather have mechanical assembly with proper swinging pointers. Watching a "real" rev counter is a lot more fun.
the Emira would need to come with its own towtruck to be taken seriously. I got my deposit back and went Cayman
LOL dramatic my guy but enjoy the Cayman
*Best Car ever made.* Porsches used to look like weird teapots on wheels. This thing is literally the proverbial sex on wheels - and a non-track Cayman that's finally fast! 💪
First one!
I think you are confusing pasm with traction control. You WANT pasm on for sure. I own a gts4.0 fwiw.
actually wait, I am wrong & you are right, I was confusing pasm with pdcc
Road too bumpy for PASM being engaged
Storage, storage, storage. Cayman GTS 4.0
The 4.0 Cayman 👍
Ended up going Emira!
Listen to the Evora video from Valvetronic Design. Then you can really hear the potential of the Emira engine sound. It is miles better than Porsche...
I think I’d find those tall gear ratios in the manual Cayman frustrating for daily driving on the street.
Would I rather drive a Porsche or a Lotus? I think this question is pretty easy to answer 😂
Are you speeding?
Man - I swear you all sound like the same person. Do you just have like 50 different youtube channels?
69 different channels actually
Cayman 4.0 GTS over the Lotus ten times out of ten.
why does it sound so quiet.
I wouldn’t call it quiet
Gearing seems too tall tho
Interesting in that most folks have liked the Lotus steering better but thought the gear throw In the Porsche was superior. My 21 2.5T Manual was Heaven
Porsche anything over Lotus….ask yourself the same question 10 years and 100K miles from now.
Too lazy to work on cars or wait for tow truck nowadays, Porsche all the way.
The GTS4.0 is too expensive. Lotus Emira, if quality and reliability have improved, it’s well worth the $85k for the base v6.
I think the price of emira v6 will be starting higher than 85k
He's out there just shifting to shift lol. Up shifts early just to downshift 🤦🏾♂️
A good transmission encourages you to shift for the sake of shifting, even when you don’t need to
GTS 4.0 all day long
Why r u not wearing driving gloves???
Because I'm a heathen
The Emira engine comes from the Camry. Enough said..
Not sure what to say. I prefer cayman S, it is not much slower, not a fan of a linear acceleration either, and much more gas consumption (I know to get a porsche is not to save gas). I am actually regret to switch from Cayman S to GTS4.0, 20k+ is not worth totally. Just my opinion.
.... this guy .....
@@carminered drove both, I can have my own solid option.
Yup. Even the base Cayman is an exceptional car. You buy it for mid-engine driving dynamics, the chassis and suspension. I've driven both GTS 2.5 and 4.0, and both engines are great honestly. If I had a Cayman, I would not switch to 4.0, but if ordering new and you can jump to 4.0, it's the one to get.
I get 35mpg with cylinder deactivation on the freeway with cruise control set to 65.
I got 718 Boxster S, manual, love it.
내 사랑 카이맨^^♡
Porsche
Sorry, Porsche, all the way to the redline. As a kid growing up in the '70s and '80s, no one, and I mean no one, daydreamed about buying a Lotus. Nothing against Lotus, but Porsche's history and tradition are unmatched.
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It looks fantastic!! 🎉🎉
Finally, it doesn't look like a lizard with a swollen lower lip anymore. And that hideos gap in the bonnet is gone. Looks very Modern and 'one piece sculpted' now, beautiful!
The gearing on this car is ludicrous and wrong. You cannot enjoy the high revving engine and get out of 2nd gear without breaking the speed limit. That's crazy, you have 4 unusable gears.
Long gearing definitely detracts from driving experience
Typical California road. Full of potholes, that is. Wonder where are our taxes going. 😢
Not really buying it… too much money and slow….
Go for the Porsche, less money going to the CCP
Porsche 4L just hits differently
BEST PORSCHE OR NOT IS DEFINITELLY OVERPRICED
I agree that interior is almost 15 years old
Never!
@James you have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about. This is a phenomenal sports car even at priced. I’ve driven one, you clearly have not.
@@ernestaliev846What POS DO YOU DRIVE??😹😹😹
@@keysandcars1640Same for you 😹😹😹
Emira looks like a toy car, I would never choose it over GTS 4.0 just for the sake of 10% better steering feel or whatever.
Lol ok. Great take
Yes. But it isnt worth it. The S is 90% of the gts