Excellent comparison. I am confident that your 'compare and contrast' of the R and F here will help a lot of people who are deliberating between the two models. Thanks.
mate the way you rode the wr250f seemed natural, you just flowed with the bike and i think riding the wr250f will get your confidence up and soon youll be ringing the bike out to its rev limiter
Thanks for watching Trail_Rider01! The WRR is a mid to high end small but comfy couch, the WRF is a the stylish and functional office chair that your coworkers are jealous of - different beasts!
Is the F taller than the R? How does the gearbox compare... the wider ratio of the R to the closer ratio of the F? You would think in the dirt the F would have the better gearbox and provide better torque to the rear wheel. That was fun to watch, what a cool place to ride and play around.
The 250f is taller, the transmission tighter, and more aggressive in every way. Tall seat-height due to more clearance down low. If you were racing and hitting technical obstacles like jumps, hill-climbs, etc., the 250f is the way to go. The WRR is like the older more mature dirtbike that says "go ahead and stand and rip it 250f, I'll be sitting and chilling with my heated grips on and really not that far behind you in the end".
It depends what you are using it for. It is essentially the racier version of the wr250f (comes from the factory w/ competition kit). If you don't need / want lighting and all you are using it for is trail riding, I'd say the FX is better. Let me know what you wind up with!
crj moto well, I already own a HONDA CRF250L. I use this for my daily commute. Recently , I changed my tires to knobbies so I could go on the trail. My friends keep telling me to change bikes since the CRF250L is a heavy bike and when I get stuck in the ruts , nobody would help me get out of them. But no must admit the CRF250L is perfect for the road. So I’m thinking of getting a pure trail bike.
@@surgfish if you want a road bike youdont want the yz250fx. If you want to fly off road and have a race bike then the yz250fx is one of the best enduro/ cross trainers out there. a touch lighter than the wr250f, a bit more power, alot more snappy.
crj moto I might add a hardcore trail bike to the garage too but having a tough time choosing a bike. Thinking about a Beta 300rr, Beta 500 rs, KTM or a Husky, The WRF's are really nice too but I want to try a different manufacturer for a change.
I just sat on the newest batch of Beta's - they scream fun! The good - I got a killer deal on my wr250f, that's why I chose it. The bad - with the time and $ trying to get it dialed in for me I could have gone with any of the other manufacturers for about the same $.
crj moto yep that's the drawback with japanese bikes, they are cheaper but after adding stuff on the bike that KTM, Beta, Husqvarna, etc already comes with, you are not really saving.
Also a factor to mention is the F had an advantage of being a 2015 vs the R at 2010. I believe the R has slightly improved since. So maybe if the R was a 2015 also, you could probably get away with a 5 sec. reduction giving it a time of 5:29.
2015 was a new year for the F (FI) but I don't think they've ever changed the R since its intro in 2008. Either way, the F is definitely lighter and faster. However, the extra weight and predictable throttle give the R more traction and more confidence at times. I bet given a few laps to try, I could catch the F... Thanks for watching!
Thanks for watching Jammarules! It's a giant two wheel playground here in Western Colorado! And I agree, the wr250f is pretty awesome looking. A little "meaner" of a stance than the R
I'll take the R. Less maintenance, longer life, retail price is less and street legal ready. Plus if CycleCruza gives it love then it must be good, right? Lol.
Is the wr250f terrible on maintenance like ktms? It seems like a sweet bike but less maintenance is better for me I have wrenching. I had a 09 crf450x that I got plated. It was sweet but sucked in the road. It vibrated a lot and only had 5 gears. I didn’t need that much power anyways but the wr250r May be too weak lol.
That corner of town is no-man's land lol. I found a stolen car out there once, wouldn't be surprised to find worse. There's a couple compounds on the outskirts of the OHV area I don't go near...
I'm only now seeing this, I was thinking about getting a wr250f but then hearing that it is high maintenance and the wr250r is low maintenance my mind has been changed the wr250r looks better than this 250f anyways
I rode what I would call black diamond singletrack on the R last weekend and it did fine. And I hauled a$$ home on the twisty tarmac (41 miles) comfortably : )
Thanks for watching bullet ben! Yes. The WRR is ride and forget it, the WRF is not. Frequent oil changes, air filter cleaning, check this, adjust that. Not horrible but definitely high maintenance.
@@crjmoto probably have the ability but about 10 year ago it started to really hurt when you go down moto cross and super cross are a young man's game they have no fear of going down look back in 2 wheel history all the best riders are taken out by fear of crash we all have recovered from injury but you never recover nerve I can man handle that wr and I have know fear of it hurting me and to the beginner you look like king of the track again
I'm running a 48t in the back (13/48) and 65 mph is pushing it. Stock is something like 43t and I could cruise comfortably at 70 mph. It's a little bike though regardless of gearing, under 60 mph is best
He asked about the F not the R. Mine is 13 52 stock sprocket sizes for 2006 wr250f. and even then it will hit 75 mph for sure but comfortably 55 mph going down the road, mine is street legal. Your bike sounds like it needs opened up, I bet the horse power numbers are not much different between your R and F models but they could be if your F wasn't restricted so much. Mine will climb and never bog like a dang Billy goat with how low geared it is along with a FMF titanium power core pipe grey wire snipped and the after market carb bowl R and D brand. I have read that it is normal to take my bike from stock 27 or 28 hp up to 35 or 36 rather easily with not much money just by derestricting it. It should climb like a beast though and sound like one to. I wish I could come run this loop it looks bad ass, and you are a good rider too. My crf250l is geared stock 14 40 now for road I use 13 40 and for my off road rims I run 13 42 and this helps a lot with the steep climbs and bog but my wrf is still ten teeth larger on the rear sprocket at 52 and with 10 or so more hp and this equals climb anything with ease, but it does like to be pushed at higher rpm for peak power. Race engine vs street or dual sport engine they are just different breeds altogether. Mine also has an after market Aceabris 3.4 gallon tanks on both bikes and love it especially on the wr it drinks more fuel.
I found the throttle snappy when from closed, cracking it open. It has too much timing just as you crack it and you need to plug in the tuner to fix it. Compared to the early 07/8 there is a massive difference in the 15/16 which is not far behind a FE350 or 350 exc
So true. G2 throttle tamer helps but still needs tweaking of the ECU. The first 5% of throttle is tough to manage, the rest is perfect for just about anything.
So the Yamaha WR250R was updated/refreshed in 2015? What exactly did they change? I can't seem to find much information about this. I have a street legal 2001 Kawasaki KDX220R. Its great for the trails and the dirt and maybe some roads if you're going 40/50mph or less. Im looking to get a WR250R as my enduro bike and keep the KDX220 for the trips to the woods and trails all day.
Concerning your comment about the twitchy throttle. Have you looked into a G2 Dirt Tamer? It can do wonders for throttle control and they make one for this bike. Www.g2ergo.com/store/g2-dirt-tamer/
Hey Eric, thanks for watching! I added one and there was an improvement. I still feel like the bulk of the problem is the ECU. I've mapped from mud to race modes and all are twitchy. I do stand by the G2 though, def improvement and would buy again
The bike is tall! I recommend an older wr250f (pre-2015), there's a lot more parts (ex. lowering links) available for them to make it better suited for you. Let me know what you wind up with!
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Looks like an amazing place to ride
i have the F adjusted to be street legal for the AU and it is absolutely amazing
How does the closer ratio 5 speed do on the street? What is the top speed?
Excellent comparison. I am confident that your 'compare and contrast' of the R and F here will help a lot of people who are deliberating between the two models. Thanks.
Thanks for watching Andres! Both are very fun motos : )
Thank heaps mate, found this video very helpful! buying a WR250F next week!
Thanks for watching and congrats!!!
i cant find it used ;-; but
I NEED IT !!!
What is your choice of motorcycle for adventure in the 250 cc class?
Is WR 250 suitable for adventure?!
The wr250R yes! I'm riding a killer KTM 2stroke these days and I still dream of the adventures the wr250R was capable of.
@@crjmoto TNX bro
Great comparison vid. Up next, the street riding portion of the comparison.......
Ha! The WRR is part Harley Davidson, I'd throw some cruiser pegs on it and ride it cross country!
mate the way you rode the wr250f seemed natural, you just flowed with the bike and i think riding the wr250f will get your confidence up and soon youll be ringing the bike out to its rev limiter
Thanks for watching Trail_Rider01! The WRR is a mid to high end small but comfy couch, the WRF is a the stylish and functional office chair that your coworkers are jealous of - different beasts!
Looks fun to ride I got a Honda xr200r pretty good
Nice couple of videos! Beautiful place to ride!!
+MOTO JET Thanks brotha! This is a knobby tired paradise.
Is the F taller than the R? How does the gearbox compare... the wider ratio of the R to the closer ratio of the F? You would think in the dirt the F would have the better gearbox and provide better torque to the rear wheel. That was fun to watch, what a cool place to ride and play around.
The 250f is taller, the transmission tighter, and more aggressive in every way. Tall seat-height due to more clearance down low. If you were racing and hitting technical obstacles like jumps, hill-climbs, etc., the 250f is the way to go. The WRR is like the older more mature dirtbike that says "go ahead and stand and rip it 250f, I'll be sitting and chilling with my heated grips on and really not that far behind you in the end".
Watched your vids as I bought a WR250R today.......I thought for sure, you were going to hit that tree.....ahhh!!
Congrats DappieKS80! Gotta watch out for those trees in the desert... Thanks for watching and keep us posted on how things go with your new ride!!!
now I'm confused... the dealer here in the Philippines has the YZ250FX, they have no WR.... should I get it?
It depends what you are using it for. It is essentially the racier version of the wr250f (comes from the factory w/ competition kit). If you don't need / want lighting and all you are using it for is trail riding, I'd say the FX is better. Let me know what you wind up with!
crj moto well, I already own a HONDA CRF250L. I use this for my daily commute. Recently , I changed my tires to knobbies so I could go on the trail. My friends keep telling me to change bikes since the CRF250L is a heavy bike and when I get stuck in the ruts , nobody would help me get out of them. But no must admit the CRF250L is perfect for the road. So I’m thinking of getting a pure trail bike.
@@surgfish if you want a road bike youdont want the yz250fx. If you want to fly off road and have a race bike then the yz250fx is one of the best enduro/ cross trainers out there. a touch lighter than the wr250f, a bit more power, alot more snappy.
No because the engine is very different.. refresh every 100 hours cost you too much bro
excellent job with the videos
+Denis Thebeau Thanks Denis! Much appreciated
The wr250r looks cooler than both the Wr250f and Wr450f.
I agree. People are so confused by what exactly it is and how I got it street legal. Cracks me up.
crj moto I might add a hardcore trail bike to the garage too but having a tough time choosing a bike. Thinking about a Beta 300rr, Beta 500 rs, KTM or a Husky, The WRF's are really nice too but I want to try a different manufacturer for a change.
I just sat on the newest batch of Beta's - they scream fun! The good - I got a killer deal on my wr250f, that's why I chose it. The bad - with the time and $ trying to get it dialed in for me I could have gone with any of the other manufacturers for about the same $.
crj moto yep that's the drawback with japanese bikes, they are cheaper but after adding stuff on the bike that KTM, Beta, Husqvarna, etc already comes with, you are not really saving.
Get a KTM 690 enduro.
Also a factor to mention is the F had an advantage of being a 2015 vs the R at 2010. I believe the R has slightly improved since. So maybe if the R was a 2015 also, you could probably get away with a 5 sec. reduction giving it a time of 5:29.
2015 was a new year for the F (FI) but I don't think they've ever changed the R since its intro in 2008. Either way, the F is definitely lighter and faster. However, the extra weight and predictable throttle give the R more traction and more confidence at times. I bet given a few laps to try, I could catch the F... Thanks for watching!
crj moto Right on.
Wherever you are riding looks amazing. Also the new wr250f is really nice looking
Thanks for watching Jammarules! It's a giant two wheel playground here in Western Colorado! And I agree, the wr250f is pretty awesome looking. A little "meaner" of a stance than the R
Great videos. Thanks
Thanks for watching shizzle1975!!!
I'll take the R. Less maintenance, longer life, retail price is less and street legal ready. Plus if CycleCruza gives it love then it must be good, right? Lol.
My opinion is that 5 out of 5 of the above statements are true. Ha ha
Agreed but that new klx 250 can hang with the wr250r now. Almost identical hp and klx improved the suspension. The camo is nice.
Is the wr250f terrible on maintenance like ktms? It seems like a sweet bike but less maintenance is better for me I have wrenching. I had a 09 crf450x that I got plated. It was sweet but sucked in the road. It vibrated a lot and only had 5 gears. I didn’t need that much power anyways but the wr250r May be too weak lol.
myrandomlife the wr250r is known to be the most reliable 250 on the market.
Looks like you are riding on the moon! That is some barren land!
That corner of town is no-man's land lol. I found a stolen car out there once, wouldn't be surprised to find worse. There's a couple compounds on the outskirts of the OHV area I don't go near...
You did good. Hope everide doesn't have that "hot lap" copyright © . Lol Good fun!
Thanks Kevin! All profits from this video go to eveRide. So far he's good for at least a cup of coffee : )
Very cool comparison. I would love to ride my WR250R there with you someday....
+Rob Goetz Thanks Rob! Your time to beat will be five twenty one ha ha.
indonesia love yamaha wr250f
be careful when your riding out by yourself in the middle on nowhere, would suck to go down with no help
It only looks like the middle of nowhere, 5 minute ride from home ha ha. Still a good reminder though!
@@crjmoto I wish I had this 5 minutes from home
@@jmedic8373 we're pretty lucky here on the western slope of CO. Pick a direction and go play!
I love my 250r. This video makes me want to make a similar one between my WR250r and WR400f (both street legal).
You should do it Adam! I'd like to see that
Thanks for reminding me! Maybe this weekend.
cool vids, great desciption - a moutain bike with a motor and a harley with nobbys lol
Thanks for watching nev 450! Both have proven to be great machines
cool vid man...i'm pretty happy with my R
Thanks +DirtRider WR250R ! The R never ceases to amaze me.
I'm only now seeing this, I was thinking about getting a wr250f but then hearing that it is high maintenance and the wr250r is low maintenance my mind has been changed the wr250r looks better than this 250f anyways
I rode what I would call black diamond singletrack on the R last weekend and it did fine. And I hauled a$$ home on the twisty tarmac (41 miles) comfortably : )
i love wr250f
hey mate just watched your vids, question is the 250f like the 450f? higher maintenance?
Thanks for watching bullet ben! Yes. The WRR is ride and forget it, the WRF is not. Frequent oil changes, air filter cleaning, check this, adjust that. Not horrible but definitely high maintenance.
Cheers mate
Thanks for the video, gives me more inspiration for my videos!
Your vids are top notch - sub'd! There's a lot of pressure putting yourself out there on YT, a never-ending learning curve
What is your height?
great videos man! and you can breath as you need lol even if it's loud
Thanks Nir! I'm a hair over 5'9. R is lowered and I can flat-foot, the F is not and I can barely get tip-toes down on one foot
Great video!
Thanks nrm59! The wr250r will always be my favorite
I've got 2015 wr and I'm a old moto crosser the wr is very forgiving and Let's a old man believe he can still ride like he did in the 80s
The older I get the more I'm drawn to toys that are "forgiving" ha ha. I bet you tear it up on two wheel given your old school moto cross history...
@@crjmoto probably have the ability but about 10 year ago it started to really hurt when you go down moto cross and super cross are a young man's game they have no fear of going down look back in 2 wheel history all the best riders are taken out by fear of crash we all have recovered from injury but you never recover nerve I can man handle that wr and I have know fear of it hurting me and to the beginner you look like king of the track again
@@tedeitel8060 I hear ya Ted. Head on over to Western CO some time and let's see what your lap time is!
What is the top speed on the wr250f?
I'm running a 48t in the back (13/48) and 65 mph is pushing it. Stock is something like 43t and I could cruise comfortably at 70 mph. It's a little bike though regardless of gearing, under 60 mph is best
@@crjmoto thanks.
He asked about the F not the R. Mine is 13 52 stock sprocket sizes for 2006 wr250f. and even then it will hit 75 mph for sure but comfortably 55 mph going down the road, mine is street legal. Your bike sounds like it needs opened up, I bet the horse power numbers are not much different between your R and F models but they could be if your F wasn't restricted so much. Mine will climb and never bog like a dang Billy goat with how low geared it is along with a FMF titanium power core pipe grey wire snipped and the after market carb bowl R and D brand. I have read that it is normal to take my bike from stock 27 or 28 hp up to 35 or 36 rather easily with not much money just by derestricting it. It should climb like a beast though and sound like one to. I wish I could come run this loop it looks bad ass, and you are a good rider too. My crf250l is geared stock 14 40 now for road I use 13 40 and for my off road rims I run 13 42 and this helps a lot with the steep climbs and bog but my wrf is still ten teeth larger on the rear sprocket at 52 and with 10 or so more hp and this equals climb anything with ease, but it does like to be pushed at higher rpm for peak power. Race engine vs street or dual sport engine they are just different breeds altogether. Mine also has an after market Aceabris 3.4 gallon tanks on both bikes and love it especially on the wr it drinks more fuel.
That part of Afghanistan is nice
you have to make the mods for this bike so it runs well i own both and the 250f is the better bike and just as good as my ktm 450
Bike mods are done, just working on modding myself in to a better rider ; ) Thanks for watching!
You dont own a dirtbike
I found the throttle snappy when from closed, cracking it open. It has too much timing just as you crack it and you need to plug in the tuner to fix it. Compared to the early 07/8 there is a massive difference in the 15/16 which is not far behind a FE350 or 350 exc
So true. G2 throttle tamer helps but still needs tweaking of the ECU. The first 5% of throttle is tough to manage, the rest is perfect for just about anything.
So the Yamaha WR250R was updated/refreshed in 2015?
What exactly did they change? I can't seem to find much information about this. I have a street legal 2001 Kawasaki KDX220R. Its great for the trails and the dirt and maybe some roads if you're going 40/50mph or less.
Im looking to get a WR250R as my enduro bike and keep the KDX220 for the trips to the woods and trails all day.
where are you located, I can crush that time on my TW200
Never under estimate the power of the T-dubs!!! Smooth and steady (with fat tires) wins the race! Ha ha
Concerning your comment about the twitchy throttle. Have you looked into a G2 Dirt Tamer? It can do wonders for throttle control and they make one for this bike. Www.g2ergo.com/store/g2-dirt-tamer/
Hey Eric, thanks for watching! I added one and there was an improvement. I still feel like the bulk of the problem is the ECU. I've mapped from mud to race modes and all are twitchy. I do stand by the G2 though, def improvement and would buy again
Hey man I'm considering getting a wr250f I'm 15 5,6 and 115 pounds you think that would be good for me
The bike is tall! I recommend an older wr250f (pre-2015), there's a lot more parts (ex. lowering links) available for them to make it better suited for you. Let me know what you wind up with!
Alright thanks man
Not bad riding at all
Thanks and thanks for watching Polar Bear!!!
I'm 13 and need more power fe 350 here I come
I can't wait to ride one myself