Strong start to the show. It looks like there will be a shorter list of main characters in the beginning which should help. GoT had a lot of characters to start off with similar names and was sometimes hard to keep track of when names were mentioned. Looking forward to seeing if we get to see more of the Night King in this series.
Tiny, insignificant point: the Targaryens left Valyria BEFORE the Doom, because Daenys Targaryen, daughter of Aenar, dreamt of the Doom and convinced the Targaryens to relocate to Dragonstone. Every other Valyrian family laughed at them for doing so…and then perished in the Doom.
@@jorgemsbrito I may have to take another look, everyone else I’ve heard also thought it was Valyria but I never considered it could have been Dragonstone
@@jorgemsbrito the rest of the sculpture looks like a city though. Maybe they built the castle at Dragonstone to look like the one they had in Valyria.
I absolutely love how the introduction to the series literally tells the ending::: “For he knew the only thing that could destroy the House of the Dragon was itself.”
No….he said afterwards, decide or leave it to the Gods which meant there was a possibility even though very slight that the outcome may not be one of the two before mentioned.
I wish they had used the exact lines from the death of Alyssa (King Jaherys mother) from Fire & Blood to make this more obvious. The woman will die, that woman is my wife & the queen! So good!
@Anoushka S the reason for that was she lost the war to her brother and before that because of her paranoia lost her own allies including her ex-father-in-law as well as three dragonriders (two defected while another fled) as well as people she was supposed to rule which led to storming of the dragon pit which lost her, her dragon and as well as many dragons kept there.
the end credits with classic GoT theme gave me chills. Nostalgia maxx. I’m so happy that we are back in westeroes. Finished the book recently and I’m happy that George is a showrunner so we won’t stray too far from the GREAT source material. Mondays are fun again!
I've seen a lot of people saying they get little finger vibes from October Hightower but I think he's more of a Tywyn Lannister character, seasoned Noble from a big house who knows how influence and manipulate, also a big parallel with how Tywyn told Cersi to get involved with Robert and Otto tells his daughter to go see the King, both pimping out their daughters for a greater goal. Whereas little finger comes from a small house and is a bit more slimmy, sneaky and back handed wannabe. Also I believe the model the King is making is of Old Valeria not King Landing
They didn't tell King Viserys he had a choice to save either his wife or child this misunderstanding keeps getting repeated by channels. He was told he had a choice "To sacrifice one or to lose them both". He then goes to tell the kind "A technique is taught at the Citidel to save the child". He's never told they can save his wife the only choice the Viserys' has is to do a procedure that will kill his wife but save the child. If they knew how to do a Nine month abortion without killing the mother they certainly didn't tell the King they did.
Sacrifice one and lose the other is the same thing as saying choose one stop nitpicking. By choosing one you’re sacrificing the other it is exactly the same thing I’m flabbergasted you would even post such a long comment
I wish they’d start at the beginning with the first men and tree people, would be awesome. Building the wall would be really cool to see when they got to that part.
I do too. Like I realize there are fire breathing flying dragons and people who can withstand being burnt by fire but I want them to dive more into magic/fantasy aspect of the Westorosi world
The Arya Easter eggs were crazy, Rhaenyra would rather be a knight that a royal whom Rhaenyra wants to ride on a dragon and explore the world, like Arya wants to see what’s west of westeros. The dagger of course is another obvious one The mention of Princess Nymeria who she named her hound after. The mention of Dark Sister, wielded by a heroine of Arya(remember the Arya and Tywin Lannister scenes) Also the mention of Visenya, who wielded dark sister. Rhaenyra says she wants to name her hopefully new born sister, visenya because the egg she picked out for the babies cradle, reminds her of visenya’s dragon. So they really hammered it home that rhaenyra and Arya have very similar heroes and they have similiar traits which is great cuz Arya was a stand out character so seeing show with a character like her being the major lead is awesome
12:24 What the Maester said was both the wife and baby would die unless he chose to save the baby. That's an important distinction. He did not choose the baby over the wife. He chose to save one versus neither.
A little detail i notcied was lord corlys put his hand above his glass when asked if he wanted more wine. This was very similar as to when roose bolton did it in the 3rd season.
I thought it was a very strong first episode. Game of Thrones was at its best with the politics and the plotting and double crossing. The fighting and dragons were the nice to haves. I hope they continue to build upon the story they've put forth in yesterday's episode. If so, I think we're in for a fun ride.
and the fighting wasn't the problem per se; Battle of the Bastards was good, even with some of the janky stuff like cavalry looping around an encirclement, or Rickon not running serpentine. The flight from Hardhome was _intense,_ and still one of the best. The problem with Season 8's battles was that they were terribly constructed through and through. Who puts siege engines in front of a defending position, instead of say the castle towers? I know you're supposed to make the White Walkers look unstoppable, but you don't do that by making two military powers act stupid. The creators clearly had checked out by that time.
Oh shit I never thought about that. But I did wonder where tf the eggs came from in Thrones and why the hell it was so easy for Daenarys to just come about them lol
Correction: In the opening dragon flight of Syrax, that wasn't the Sept of Baelor, that was the Dragon Pit. And I'm about 99% sure the model Viserys was working on was old Valyria, before the doom.
Yes, it didn't look like the Sept. I remember from the ASOIAF books that it had been the building for the dragons in King's Landing, ruined in GoT timeline.
I took Viscerys' nonchalant reaction to getting his wound burned + the scene of him holding his hand over candle flames when waitng to speak w/ Rhaenyra to mean that he's also fire proof like Dani was
Im pretty sure he just didnt want to be burned as he is a Targaryen so it would kind of be against the family notion. At the start they imply that he was giving the suggestion of cauterization before and refused, which to me means he's not fireproof. Which he isnt, Targaryians are NOT fireproof, ONLY Dani Targaryen is. Due to the specific circumstances of: The birth of the dragons, The witch that was burned, the Khal, everything at once. You can google that. Of course books and movies/shows do not have to match word for word, but that is how it "was", either way I lean against it because of what I think of that specific scene (meaning not including that outside knowledge.)
Dani isn’t fireproof either GRRM has said repeatedly the funeral pyre that quickened her dragon eggs was a miracle that happened because blood sacrifice and dragon genes and that miracle can’t be repeated. Her resistance to heat is related to the Targaryen natural resistances to disease and common maladies.
I think it’s interesting how his left hand got cut. The hand of the king has primarily been on the left side of the king throughout the episode. I think Otto has some motive/deeper intention for sending Alicent to the king. Perhaps it could result in a new candidate who could challenge the iron throne?
I'm pretty sure Viserys didn't get the choice between Aemma or Baelon. He could either lose both, or sacrifice Aemma to give Baelon a chance. Viserys was broken by the choice.
It's really unclearly written. At first it seems like Child or Mother, but the Maester only describes one option. So you are surely right. BUT... they definitely could sacrifice the baby and cut it out through the normal opening and save Aemma. The Maester doesn't give this option because he doesn't approve, and he knows that Viserys would not choose it anyway. No "right-thinking" nobleman in Westeros would sacrifice a possible Male heir for a woman (especially her last chance at one.) If Viserys chose Aemma, it would prove he was hysterical and shouldn't be obeyed-- so why allow that possibility (in the Maester's mind). And the Maester probably thinks it convenient for Aemma to die if the child is female so the King can remarry and breed again. The Maester totally puts his thumb on the scale (as Daemon later says, they are good at manipulating Viserys). So the choice is a chance of a normal birth in which one or both survive (and a larger chance they both die), or sacrificing Aemma to improve the child's odds.
@@michaellee4276 It's not poorly written. The Maester flat out says "You have a choice to sacrifice one or lose them both". I can't believe you half wits are having such a difficult time with this. I swear, people need to put their phones down during the middle of a TV show and pay attention. There is no reason to think they knew how to do a 9 month abortion to save the mother.
Kinda wanted to see how we got to this point with the Targaryen reign but I can see how that would be hard to do from a show standpoint. Show looks amazing and I loved the scene that went back and forth between the tourney and the queen dying. It gave me chills and the symbolism was on point.
I believe this to and I think it's possible the secret is that they knew the dagger could end the long night! Maybe Aegon had it made after he dreamt it and passed it down to each successor along with its secret.. which was obviously lost with the mad king! 🤔
It's by all the means the same prop, the dagger itself ended in the cart of weapons that King Robert brought along with his court at the start of A game of Thrones so it makes absolute sense that it was in king's possession at the start of House of the Dragon I'm more curious to know by the end of the series if they will bring up in what hands it passed before being thrown in the pile with all the other weapons, it was a Valyrian Steel dagger afterall, not something you will willingly put in a closet with other steel swords to take dust. (in the books Eddard Stark hypotetized that Joffrey, who was the real culprit of the failed assassination of Bran Stark, misinterpreted the words of Tyrion about killing mercifully someone that was as crippled as Bran, and hired the catspaw assassin giving him a dagger he found in the stash that was travelling with the court, without realising by his own ignorance that the weapon, being made from Valyrian steel, was in fact very recognizable and iconic and easily traceable back at the King's own possession, setting in motion everything that happened further)
Yes, the show tried to give an explanation to the Game of Thrones absurd Long Night conclusion. But it leads to a whole lot of mess like whom all would Jahaerys reveal this secret to. I wish they would just let the garbage that D&D created in the end alone and tell their own story.
At 3:20 you incorrectly mentioned the "great Sept of Baelor".That structure in the scene was more likely the dragon pit...as Baleor the Blessed reigned after the Young Dragon aka Daeron I ---the son of Aegon III aka Dragon bane.
Surprised he called it the Sept of baelor. I thought dragonpit at first sight. I cant wait to see how the do the shepherd and the destruction of the pit
@@prettyfloralbonnets . On the Hill of Rhaenys, the Sept of Remembrance was destroyed during the reign of Maegor the Cruel (uncle of Jehaerys I). The dragon pit was then built on that spot
Aegon's dream makes the ending of Game of Thrones even worse because his prophecy would have been fulfilled if Jon Snow had sat the Iron Throne (with or without Dany). Either Jon was ice and fire (Stark and Targaryen) or he and Dany together were ice (Jon) and fire (Dany) if they ruled together. True Dany was mad like her father- so it probably would have been better if Jon ruled alone. Aegon predicts The Long Night and the coming of the White Walkers but Viserys says that a Targaryen must sit the throne and we all know that Jon is really Aegon Targaryen. Even though members of the Night Watch cannot wear any crowns, dying freed Jon of that oath. Jon should have been the one to sit the Iron Throne at the end of GOT.
Prophecies don't always come true (or maybe partially but not completely), that is a theme in Martin's storytelling. Jon (a Targaryen), while he wasn't sitting the throne, did help bring people together to defeat the army of the dead. Jon sitting the Throne at the end would have been a typical fantasy trope ending.
The ending previews show a crown before Rhaenarys. That means season One will probably end with Viserys dying, and Alicent Hightowers and her father plotting to put her children on the thrown while Rhaenarys is giving birth on Dragonstone resulting in a still birth but her fathers crown being smuggled to her as she’s coronated in defiance of the Hightowers plot
I cannot even imagine the level of pain and despair of having to choose like the King did, and then still losing both. That might have been the most heartbreaking moment in a "Ice & Fire" show since "Bring me his head".
So far we've seen 2 dragons, I LOVE how different they look and act. The princesses dragons horns look like a crown, great touch! The uncles dragon is massive and has that fat, almost deformed neck! That's just my first impression, I can't wait to see more and learn more...
The slight eyes were my favorite part about the episode. Rhaenyra as cup bearer judging everyone who slighted daemon. The lords hating the fact they had to swear a woman take the iron throne
The sword's name is Dark Sister. Also, the king had to choose between letting both die or just his wife. It wasn't choosing between both, Aemma was going to die from the breached birth either way.
3:20 Not The Great Sept of Baelor. This is the Dragon Pit. The Great Sept of Baelor was constructed under King Baelor Targaryen, who would become king years after the dance of the dragons
why nobody mentions the fact there is a crown on Baratheon banner which shouldn't be there because they put the crown there right after Robert won the rebellion and became the king
It is correct. It is the banner of house Durrandon. The 1st Baratheon killed the storm king, married his daughter and took his banner for his own. So they always had a crowned stag for a sigil because that is what house Durrandon had.
Incorrect: the baby was not in birth position. They had tried and failed to reposition him so that he could be born. Since he could not come out of the womb, he’d die for lack of Oxigen and also the queen would die for infections related to having a deceased baby inside of her. This was actually a common cause of death for women at childbirth in the past. For reference, In the USA, the first successful section happened in 1794!!! LOL way passed the dragons and white walkers🤣🤣 … no but seriously… lol
We all know IF IT WAS chose one or the other, he probably would’ve chosen the son, because even rhynerys (not sure if I spelled that one right) knew that all he wanted since he was king was a son to be heir to the throne.
I’m not sure about that. He clearly was obsessed with having a boy, but he also loved the queen. The show does not give clear indication of what would’ve happened in that case.
The costumes and sets were phenomenal in this episode, considerably better than anything on GoT in my opinion. GoT had a huge budget but it always looked a bit plastic and toyish; this episode made the world feel a lot grander and more real to me.
I'd say budget of a bit plastic and toyish would always be more than better CGI, almost 70-80% of this season is on cgi, but no doubt they've made it look better obviously there's difference of a decade 2011 & 2022.
I don't agree. Remember that got was made the first season about 12/13 years ago I think. In the later seasons the costumes were incredible and the armour looked better in the 1st seasons of GoT because they looked more real to me. Like the Hounds.
Something I noticed by her general dress-sense and hair colour (then confirmed on google) is that Hightower, is a relative of Margaery Tyrell. It's so funny that over 200 years their defining characteristics are hair colour and dress.
Pretty much everyone on this show are relatives. The high towers and tyrells are still seperate houses but I think the producers are trying to create parallels with these characters to GoT so that we can know them a little bit more.
@@aimee-leighkelly2906 they seem to be doing this with a few characters so far, Rheanyra/Danny is the most obvious one that I noticed, which should overall be pretty satisfying with how this all eventually turns out.
@@colonelclank2422 Yeah your right but I’d really not like to compare the characters though but it seems to be what they are doing or at least what the audiences are doing. Funny that you say Rhaenerya/Dany because I’ve been seeing a lot of people compare her to Arya (where Alicent would be Sansa) which is just wrong 😑. I’d love to get to know the characters for who THEY are and not who they are LIKE. I still don’t think that Alicent is like Margaery or Sansa, because they were both leading ladies and Alicent seems more of a “blend in/obedient” type.
@@aimee-leighkelly2906 Well, I think the Rhaenerya/Arya definitely does have its grounds. They're both stubborn, tomboyish (I hate that term because it makes it seem like theres girly things and boy things in life when everyone should do what they want regardless, but here we are) and would rather be fighting than sewing. They're also both very cliché archetypes. However I expect that their paths will very much diverge and I have a ton of hope for this series. The Alicent/Sansa is just plain stupid though lol
I just saw an interesting reddit post, in that Targaryen kings essentially follow a pattern of "King who gets sh*t done" and "King that is totally ineffectual" to "king who actively f**ks up the realm." So, King Jaehaerys was the king who got sh*t done, this King Viserys is the totally ineffectual king, and then Rhaenyra and his half-brother Aegon II actively f**ks up the realm with the civil war called "dance of the dragons"
One thing that I didn't understand about the joust was that it is true that people die in tournaments, but these guys were actually trying to kill each other (and some did). This seemed more a tournament that got out of hand than a regular tournament with maybe a death but not fight to the death rules. That seemed odd to me.
I think they were trying to portray just how much pent up violence is coming. The melee scenes were used to show how the Nobles, and even the common folk of Westeros were so heated in their rivalries and so divorced from the realities of war that this spectacle was seen as acceptable to the onlooking crowd. The page vomiting in the background as he had been very close to the action, as well as the mercilessness of the violence being portrayed was used to foreshadow the tremendous violence that is yet to come when the war finally begins, and how quickly people will regret getting caught up in it when it does. Especially as it had been established that there had been about 70 continuous years of general enforced peace with the Targaryens and their Dragons at the peak of their power, having only just lost Balerion the greatest of all their Dragons within the last Decade or so.
The one thing that I’ve seen reviewers get wrong is the Maester (spelling) told the King that either he could loss BOTH his WIFE and CHILD OR save the CHILD. It wasn’t a decision between his wife and child it was between his child or NEITHER! So he didn’t sacrifice his Queen they said she was going to die either way so I would have had to make the same choice…. Feel bad for the King seems like an honorable man but we know that is NOT what makes a ruler successful in Westeros… just my 2 cents. As always Ryan is top 2 in my book!
Big, big fan of the TV vision, not so much "The 8th" though, and I have to say, I'm liking the show so far. Having George as exec. is great to see. So I for one will continue watching the show. And I gave a like because I'm a nice guy.
@Anoushka S I always worry about something I'm looking forward to and then be disappointed about. Why should this be any different. With that said, I have high hopes I'm not dis-appointed again.
Found some sort of connection to GoT! In GoT S4E7 when Bronn goes and visits Tyrion in his prison cell at around 35 minutes Bronn talks about his coming marriage with the younger daughter of a noble family. Tyrion questions Bronn whether he knows the line of succession as to Bronn respond with “Oh girls fall off their horses all the time and break their pretty little necks”
Hey Ryan, what do you think of this line from Otto Hightower "The Gods are yet to make a man who has patience for absolute power"? Do you think it was subtly implied at Jon Snow, and how he didn't cared for absolute power?
Dragonscale and grey scale are not the same thing. Jorah got grey scale from his adventures with Tyrion. Night Sister or Dark Sister? It wasn’t A dragon, it was HER dragon, Syrax. Otto Hightower is Littlefinger’s Ghost of Christmas past
Viserys is going to be alive and still king for another 18 years give or take, long enough for Rhaenyra and Alicent to have their own children and heirs. Which we will see later this season with a time jump and older actresses playing them. Will be interesting to see how they pace it and if Viserys eventual death will happen this season or they extend it into the second season. There is a lot of story they can flesh out in the meantime or they could just jump right into the “Dance” in this first season
A great video, just one little thing--it actually looked like the king couldn't choose between the mother and the baby--the mother was likely doomed at this point, and he could choose between her dying peacefully and her dying in agony + possibly saving the babe. But that's how I understood it, and I'm not a doctor, so I don't know for sure!
Loved the premier episode - I'm just excited to spend more time in this world with a different set of creative hands in charge. The only downside for me was the reference to the events in ASOIAF; they actually made me angrier about how rushed seasons 7 and 8 were. All that wasted potential...
@@chriskoshinski Well.... yeah, we watched the new show. Why wouldn't we? There's definitely hope that new showrunners and a bit of retrospection can help to avoid the problems that S7 and S8 had. There's nothing wrong with being optimistic.
I'm not sure how I feel about them making the Targaryeons always having known about the coming Long Night. It feels tacked on to the end. it might end up distracting from the actual plot like some weird reminder of GoT Also as far as I know it's big departure from the books. Where the Targaryeons don't get obsessed with that kind of prophesy until a couple of generations before GoT.
It’s is actually well established that it is common knowledge that the children of the forest turned human into white walkers as a means to protect themselves in the game of thrones universe. Them knowing about this is just some overshadowed part of history most people don’t know.
Nope. I see a video that looks interesting, so I watch it. Only correct so people who aren't framiliar with the deep lore can have the same understanding that I have. I know not every can or wants to invest in 8 books, some of which are $50 or more, so if I can share the information I have to others, I will! Gladly!!
An open cut that doesn't heal has NOTHING to do with what we know about grayscale. It is way more probable to be linked to the whole deal of kings getting cut by the throne if they are unworthy / bad kings.
Another insignificant Easter egg: although we're on HOD.. did anyone else notice on GOT, when they were trying to kill Khaleesi(b4 her first dragon ride) at the tournament, Jonah touched her hand. And at that moment he already had dragon scale. So why didn't she get it? Also, when he was saying goodbye to her to go find a "cure" he didn't want her to touch him then. Soooooo.... ijs, did anyone else catch that? You may not care but 🤷🏽♀️
You misunderstood a couple things: 1. Viserys's choice was: cut the baby out, or they both die. There was no way to save his wife...even if the baby died somehow, they'd still have to cut it out of her. 2. Daemon was clearly upset at his party; he wasn't celebrating his brother's misery! He was mourning in his own way and said the wrong thing, reported out of context by someone who hates him. Both of these things drastically affect the characterization of these two characters...
@@JaneAxon123 That is what he said, but that's not what it implies. Think about it: how could they have possibly saved his wife? (With *their* medical technology; it would be possible today, ofc. Neither would have to die today, not for the breach birth part anyway.) In this case, there was only one way the sacrifice could go.
I saw a comment earlier about Daemon that I had to go back and look again at, he never actually says the “heir for a day” on screen. Otto and Daemon hate each other so it wouldn’t be as big of a stretch for him to do that, especially since his path to power just opened up with him wanting to set his daughter up with Viserys and he would like him out of the picture. Daemon didn’t outright say if it was him or not when asked and his response doesn’t make me completely confident with it, so just a theory.
I think this show is pretty excellent for the first episode and they were very smart to put it only for HBO Max instead of regular HBO it will definitely give a lot more people to subscribe
Remember, we had season upon season in this world where absolute horrors were being depicted in virtually every episode lol from Theon's torture at the hands of Ramsay Bolton, to Harrenhal being shown as a massive ancient ruin used primarily, at the moment, for torture and depravity. Every single episode I can recall, at one point or another, saying; "Jeezus! Can't [this character] catch a friggin' break already?!" 😁 Whether it was Arya, being captured and mistaken for a boy made to sleep in the mud in a cage, or burned bodies of children being strung up at Winterfell, or all of the disgusting terrors taking place at Craster's Keep, beyond the Wall. We went from highlight to highlight like the battle of Blackwater bay to the Red Wedding to John Snow "undercover" with the Wildlings before having to fight against them at Castle Black, without anything even resembling relief in-between! The introduction and fleshing out of new horrendous characters, and witnessing what even the most seemingly unimportant ones were capable of, doing even to the more important characters, or so we thought lol a band of Bolton men chopping Jaime Lannister's hand off, or multiple seasons of everyone believing we'd see Caitlin Stark reunited with her children once again, only to see her murdered unceremoniously by old Walder Frey! And that's all without even mentioning what we had to watch Daenerys going through, across the narrow sea. My point is; This world that George R.R. Martin created is quite typically an extremely difficult place for even the most seemingly "secure" characters to survive! And, there was a reason we all tuned in every week lol because we needed to see what would happen next, because that balance of power was so precarious most of the time there really was no telling which one would be ahead or which one gone forever, week to week! If they're trying to get everyone submerged back in all over again, they've got a TON of heavy lifting to do, even with George R.R. Martin right there helping them, for it to have any chance of being anywhere near as compelling. But, I'm hopeful. 🤞
Note to all young guys and girls, and including Ryan: If a baby is in breach and can’t be born, it kills the mother too if she can’t birth it. Either bloodloss or the eventually suffocated dead baby turning septic killing her. In current day, usually the option is to cut the vagina wider to widen the birthing canal rather than a C-section, but she would’ve died from that as well. There was no way to get around Aemma dying, birthing is a traumatic experience on the body. The issue is not telling Aemma what they were going to do at all, or knocking her out with more milk of the poppy at the least.
One thing to add: The king wasn't given the choice between saving his wife or son, he was told he could either save his son or none of them. Initially he would have likely not chosen his son over his wife, whom he clearly loved, but he was basically pushed to make the choice of saving his son. Now when they actually try to cut out the baby, we can tell this her dying was clearly not certain, as the mother screams and begs for life, putting up quite a fight (and she had survived multiple misscarriages and stillborns already). But at this point the king is so obsessed with the hope of having a son that he refuses to see that. After losing them both, I feel like he can finally realise what the pressure of having a male heir has done to him, which I believe is also part of why he finally acknowledged his daughter. I think the idea that women were always treated as lesser and usually just given the roles of wives/birthgivers but then rising to power through wit and intrigue is a strong theme overall in the GoT universe. A lot of the biggest players were women (Danny, Cercei, Margery/Olenna Tyrell,Ellaria)
This is great. You’re great. But enough recappers have misrepresented this. I really fell the need to defend my boy Viserys. He was NOT asked to choose between the life of his wife and the life of the baby. It was a much more terrible nuanced trolly problem choice. He was asked to do nothing, “leaving it to the gods,” which is a euphemism for BOTH Aemma and Baelor die, or he ACTIVELY chooses to save his son, which means ACTIVELY choosing to kill his wife. It’s 1. Wife and son die. Or 2. Kill wife, save son. There is no philosophically empirically correct choice. The tragedy is Viserys’s. Not Aemma’s, as she was inevitably doomed. Modern Terran (our) morality might waste my a discussion with said doomed wife, as opposed to drugging and gaslighting her. But the tragedy and judgement should have everything to do with the dilemma, not to methods and mores.
FACT CHECK The King was told to attempt to save the baby, or risk losing both. The baby was in breach and wasn't coming out before killing the Queen. So it was, save the baby or lose both.
The guy got his scrotum taken off and they do show it. And I’m sorry but I don’t think stress related e.d. Daemon is the most interesting. I think alicent with her stress fingers and rhaenera choking up at saying dracerys at her mom’s funeral are these subtle ways they are more interesting, but I’m super excited to see the more - I’ve read all the books and listened to the audible way too many times. In the book - Aemma’s death is so dry & I think the differences between seeing it happen and what the maesters wrote 100 yrs after based on some contemporary sources will be interesting. Much & more…little and less. Rickon stark looked different than I thought and SURPRISE no one made a fuss ab it…wonder white 🤔🐺
What did you think of the episode?
2:44 is that Matthew Berry??
Strong start to the show. It looks like there will be a shorter list of main characters in the beginning which should help. GoT had a lot of characters to start off with similar names and was sometimes hard to keep track of when names were mentioned.
Looking forward to seeing if we get to see more of the Night King in this series.
Amazing
I loved it, my only issue, the names of the Targaryen’s all sound super familiar
I loved it!
Tiny, insignificant point: the Targaryens left Valyria BEFORE the Doom, because Daenys Targaryen, daughter of Aenar, dreamt of the Doom and convinced the Targaryens to relocate to Dragonstone. Every other Valyrian family laughed at them for doing so…and then perished in the Doom.
So, basically Valyria is Krypton.
@@alexz.8302 it's more Atlantis...
beat me too it - its more atlantis than krypton i'd say
She was the mad kind daughter aryes or however it's spelled
@@Queen_Kellz_1120 the names are repeated
A little correction, that model the king is working on, it isn’t King Landing, it’s their home, Valyria.
Yes! I was going to comment that.
Seems to be to me an exact replica of Dragonstone in GoT, with an expansion. Perhaps a plan to build more.
@@jorgemsbrito I may have to take another look, everyone else I’ve heard also thought it was Valyria but I never considered it could have been Dragonstone
@@ActuallyDKM It's hard to say, but the structure on the left is the Dragonstone keep or something exactly like it.
@@jorgemsbrito the rest of the sculpture looks like a city though. Maybe they built the castle at Dragonstone to look like the one they had in Valyria.
I absolutely love how the introduction to the series literally tells the ending::: “For he knew the only thing that could destroy the House of the Dragon was itself.”
The Grand Maester actually said the choice was the child lives or both die, so it was an obvious choice but no less disturbing.
No….he said afterwards, decide or leave it to the Gods which meant there was a possibility even though very slight that the outcome may not be one of the two before mentioned.
The maester said “sacrifice one or lose them both”, so it was presented that Aemma was a goner either way 😕
@@InDisskyS131 the new gods arent real though so in truth thats all he could do lol
@@noahmorales8382 True, but they don’t know that :)
I wish they had used the exact lines from the death of Alyssa (King Jaherys mother) from Fire & Blood to make this more obvious. The woman will die, that woman is my wife & the queen! So good!
It was incredible. I thought they’d have trouble introducing characters that we could get invested in but damn, they did it
@Anoushka S the reason for that was she lost the war to her brother and before that because of her paranoia lost her own allies including her ex-father-in-law as well as three dragonriders (two defected while another fled) as well as people she was supposed to rule which led to storming of the dragon pit which lost her, her dragon and as well as many dragons kept there.
Spoilers much ?
@Anoushka S look at how this comment started the spoilers were irrelevant to the topic. From nowhere
@@arunsingla3452 are you ok?
I love watching this dude breakdown episodes cause I feel like I’m rewatching it while he explains stuff I knew and a lot of stuff I didn’t know.
Except for all the shit he gets wrong. You'd be better off watching a channel that isn't Screen Rant Sucks.
the end credits with classic GoT theme gave me chills. Nostalgia maxx. I’m so happy that we are back in westeroes. Finished the book recently and I’m happy that George is a showrunner so we won’t stray too far from the GREAT source material. Mondays are fun again!
I agree. When I heard it a wave washed over me
Me too!
Somebody tell George we want the book finish! I can't live like that 😭
It's a shame that episodes 7 & 8, season 8 is trash af. The ending is anticlimactic and the boss fight between Jon Snow & The Night King never happen
I've seen a lot of people saying they get little finger vibes from October Hightower but I think he's more of a Tywyn Lannister character, seasoned Noble from a big house who knows how influence and manipulate, also a big parallel with how Tywyn told Cersi to get involved with Robert and Otto tells his daughter to go see the King, both pimping out their daughters for a greater goal. Whereas little finger comes from a small house and is a bit more slimmy, sneaky and back handed wannabe. Also I believe the model the King is making is of Old Valeria not King Landing
I mean in my books personally, pimping out your daughters to powerful older men for your own gain is definitely top tier slimey
“October” 🤣🤣
@@Crimson28 definitely a typo I understood perfectly
*Tywin *Valyria *noble *Otto Hightower *Kingslanding
@@alpacapines8553 *King's Landing
It’s so sad when they talk about the winter and it barely amounted to a light flurry
I wish the king was working on the model that was in the GoT opener, that would have been awesome!
He is
@@DR.DisInfect pretty sure he's building a model of valyria based on his dreams, not westeros
They didn't tell King Viserys he had a choice to save either his wife or child this misunderstanding keeps getting repeated by channels. He was told he had a choice "To sacrifice one or to lose them both". He then goes to tell the kind "A technique is taught at the Citidel to save the child". He's never told they can save his wife the only choice the Viserys' has is to do a procedure that will kill his wife but save the child. If they knew how to do a Nine month abortion without killing the mother they certainly didn't tell the King they did.
I thought it was Do nothing and leave it up to the gods or save the baby.
@@wizarddragon both were said but realistically she was always going to die
Sacrifice one and lose the other is the same thing as saying choose one stop nitpicking. By choosing one you’re sacrificing the other it is exactly the same thing I’m flabbergasted you would even post such a long comment
@@1shotmilo14 The point was that he couldn't choose his wife; she was going to die either way.
true I caught that.....it makes his decision all the more defensable
I loved how much they stuck to the story in the books! I know it’s just the first episode but really excited about the potential
I wish they’d start at the beginning with the first men and tree people, would be awesome. Building the wall would be really cool to see when they got to that part.
I thought that too..
Maybe HOD would have 6-8 seasons. After that....
Imagine a prequel of a prequel where they start from the very very beginning 🤣🤣
I do too. Like I realize there are fire breathing flying dragons and people who can withstand being burnt by fire but I want them to dive more into magic/fantasy aspect of the Westorosi world
The Arya Easter eggs were crazy,
Rhaenyra would rather be a knight that a royal whom
Rhaenyra wants to ride on a dragon and explore the world, like Arya wants to see what’s west of westeros.
The dagger of course is another obvious one
The mention of Princess Nymeria who she named her hound after.
The mention of Dark Sister, wielded by a heroine of Arya(remember the Arya and Tywin Lannister scenes)
Also the mention of Visenya, who wielded dark sister. Rhaenyra says she wants to name her hopefully new born sister, visenya because the egg she picked out for the babies cradle, reminds her of visenya’s dragon.
So they really hammered it home that rhaenyra and Arya have very similar heroes and they have similiar traits which is great cuz Arya was a stand out character so seeing show with a character like her being the major lead is awesome
12:24 What the Maester said was both the wife and baby would die unless he chose to save the baby. That's an important distinction. He did not choose the baby over the wife. He chose to save one versus neither.
A little detail i notcied was lord corlys put his hand above his glass when asked if he wanted more wine. This was very similar as to when roose bolton did it in the 3rd season.
He’s someone to watch out for
Velaryon plays the game of thrones like anybody else, and to play it well you have to be sober all the times 😁
LITERALLY JUST FINISHED THE EPISODE. Perfect timing love u guys
Is it possible for Melisandre to be in this show since supposedly she's 400 years old?
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OMG that would be awesome
OMG That would be so awesome actually!
I was wondering the same thing
unlikely unless they divert from the books (fire & blood)
I thought it was a very strong first episode. Game of Thrones was at its best with the politics and the plotting and double crossing. The fighting and dragons were the nice to haves. I hope they continue to build upon the story they've put forth in yesterday's episode. If so, I think we're in for a fun ride.
This is a story about the Targaryen civil war, there will be fighting and dragons, it's almost promised.
and the fighting wasn't the problem per se; Battle of the Bastards was good, even with some of the janky stuff like cavalry looping around an encirclement, or Rickon not running serpentine. The flight from Hardhome was _intense,_ and still one of the best.
The problem with Season 8's battles was that they were terribly constructed through and through. Who puts siege engines in front of a defending position, instead of say the castle towers? I know you're supposed to make the White Walkers look unstoppable, but you don't do that by making two military powers act stupid. The creators clearly had checked out by that time.
As long as the series ends with 3 eggs being placed into a box, I’ll be happy.
Oh shit I never thought about that. But I did wonder where tf the eggs came from in Thrones and why the hell it was so easy for Daenarys to just come about them lol
@@coltonkamper3693 fate, Dany was just destined for greatness.
It wont prob
Dany’s eggs were stolen years before rhaenyras time
That and/or the creation of the Night King
The model that Viserys was building is said to be Valyria as he saw it in his Dragon dreams
Correction: In the opening dragon flight of Syrax, that wasn't the Sept of Baelor, that was the Dragon Pit.
And I'm about 99% sure the model Viserys was working on was old Valyria, before the doom.
Yes, it didn't look like the Sept. I remember from the ASOIAF books that it had been the building for the dragons in King's Landing, ruined in GoT timeline.
The sept of Baelor wasn't even built at that point, since Baelor ruled from 161 to 171, i.e. more than half a century after the show.
I took Viscerys' nonchalant reaction to getting his wound burned + the scene of him holding his hand over candle flames when waitng to speak w/ Rhaenyra to mean that he's also fire proof like Dani was
Im pretty sure he just didnt want to be burned as he is a Targaryen so it would kind of be against the family notion. At the start they imply that he was giving the suggestion of cauterization before and refused, which to me means he's not fireproof. Which he isnt, Targaryians are NOT fireproof, ONLY Dani Targaryen is. Due to the specific circumstances of: The birth of the dragons, The witch that was burned, the Khal, everything at once. You can google that.
Of course books and movies/shows do not have to match word for word, but that is how it "was", either way I lean against it because of what I think of that specific scene (meaning not including that outside knowledge.)
Dani isn’t fireproof either GRRM has said repeatedly the funeral pyre that quickened her dragon eggs was a miracle that happened because blood sacrifice and dragon genes and that miracle can’t be repeated. Her resistance to heat is related to the Targaryen natural resistances to disease and common maladies.
I think it’s interesting how his left hand got cut. The hand of the king has primarily been on the left side of the king throughout the episode. I think Otto has some motive/deeper intention for sending Alicent to the king. Perhaps it could result in a new candidate who could challenge the iron throne?
I'm pretty sure Viserys didn't get the choice between Aemma or Baelon. He could either lose both, or sacrifice Aemma to give Baelon a chance. Viserys was broken by the choice.
It's really unclearly written. At first it seems like Child or Mother, but the Maester only describes one option. So you are surely right. BUT... they definitely could sacrifice the baby and cut it out through the normal opening and save Aemma. The Maester doesn't give this option because he doesn't approve, and he knows that Viserys would not choose it anyway. No "right-thinking" nobleman in Westeros would sacrifice a possible Male heir for a woman (especially her last chance at one.) If Viserys chose Aemma, it would prove he was hysterical and shouldn't be obeyed-- so why allow that possibility (in the Maester's mind). And the Maester probably thinks it convenient for Aemma to die if the child is female so the King can remarry and breed again. The Maester totally puts his thumb on the scale (as Daemon later says, they are good at manipulating Viserys). So the choice is a chance of a normal birth in which one or both survive (and a larger chance they both die), or sacrificing Aemma to improve the child's odds.
@@michaellee4276 It's not poorly written. The Maester flat out says "You have a choice to sacrifice one or lose them both". I can't believe you half wits are having such a difficult time with this. I swear, people need to put their phones down during the middle of a TV show and pay attention. There is no reason to think they knew how to do a 9 month abortion to save the mother.
Kinda wanted to see how we got to this point with the Targaryen reign but I can see how that would be hard to do from a show standpoint. Show looks amazing and I loved the scene that went back and forth between the tourney and the queen dying. It gave me chills and the symbolism was on point.
I believe the dagger is not just similar, it's actually the same dagger
It's the same dagger
I believe this to and I think it's possible the secret is that they knew the dagger could end the long night! Maybe Aegon had it made after he dreamt it and passed it down to each successor along with its secret.. which was obviously lost with the mad king! 🤔
It's by all the means the same prop, the dagger itself ended in the cart of weapons that King Robert brought along with his court at the start of A game of Thrones so it makes absolute sense that it was in king's possession at the start of House of the Dragon
I'm more curious to know by the end of the series if they will bring up in what hands it passed before being thrown in the pile with all the other weapons, it was a Valyrian Steel dagger afterall, not something you will willingly put in a closet with other steel swords to take dust.
(in the books Eddard Stark hypotetized that Joffrey, who was the real culprit of the failed assassination of Bran Stark, misinterpreted the words of Tyrion about killing mercifully someone that was as crippled as Bran, and hired the catspaw assassin giving him a dagger he found in the stash that was travelling with the court, without realising by his own ignorance that the weapon, being made from Valyrian steel, was in fact very recognizable and iconic and easily traceable back at the King's own possession, setting in motion everything that happened further)
It's definitely the same dagger. It can't be a different one
Yes, the show tried to give an explanation to the Game of Thrones absurd Long Night conclusion. But it leads to a whole lot of mess like whom all would Jahaerys reveal this secret to. I wish they would just let the garbage that D&D created in the end alone and tell their own story.
That building wasn't the Great Sept of Baelor, it was the Dragonpit.
Thank you, I was looking for that comment
The large domed structure at the end of the opening is the Dragonpit, before it was destroyed and in ruins as we see it in Season 8 of GOT
At 3:20 you incorrectly mentioned the "great Sept of Baelor".That structure in the scene was more likely the dragon pit...as Baleor the Blessed reigned after the Young Dragon aka Daeron I ---the son of Aegon III aka Dragon bane.
Surprised he called it the Sept of baelor. I thought dragonpit at first sight. I cant wait to see how the do the shepherd and the destruction of the pit
Screen Rant still sucks.
Wasn't the old Sept destroyed to make the dragon pit? The targ ki g who did that said something on lines of 'dragons are your new god...'
@@prettyfloralbonnets . On the Hill of Rhaenys, the Sept of Remembrance was destroyed during the reign of Maegor the Cruel (uncle of Jehaerys I). The dragon pit was then built on that spot
Exactly. Baelor was Rhaenyra's grandson. He had yet to be born to grow up to be king and build a Sept.
Aegon's dream makes the ending of Game of Thrones even worse because his prophecy would have been fulfilled if Jon Snow had sat the Iron Throne (with or without Dany). Either Jon was ice and fire (Stark and Targaryen) or he and Dany together were ice (Jon) and fire (Dany) if they ruled together. True Dany was mad like her father- so it probably would have been better if Jon ruled alone. Aegon predicts The Long Night and the coming of the White Walkers but Viserys says that a Targaryen must sit the throne and we all know that Jon is really Aegon Targaryen. Even though members of the Night Watch cannot wear any crowns, dying freed Jon of that oath.
Jon should have been the one to sit the Iron Throne at the end of GOT.
I think Viserys jumped to that “a Targaryen must sit the throne” conclusion himself since they often interpret the dreams however it suits them.
“I don’t want it!”
“HIS is the song of Ice and Fire” it was always meant to be Jon, D&DB fumbled the bag so hard
Prophecies don't always come true (or maybe partially but not completely), that is a theme in Martin's storytelling. Jon (a Targaryen), while he wasn't sitting the throne, did help bring people together to defeat the army of the dead. Jon sitting the Throne at the end would have been a typical fantasy trope ending.
@@leonrobinson2475 and what is wrong with that from time to time?
The ending previews show a crown before Rhaenarys. That means season One will probably end with Viserys dying, and Alicent Hightowers and her father plotting to put her children on the thrown while Rhaenarys is giving birth on Dragonstone resulting in a still birth but her fathers crown being smuggled to her as she’s coronated in defiance of the Hightowers plot
I cannot even imagine the level of pain and despair of having to choose like the King did, and then still losing both. That might have been the most heartbreaking moment in a "Ice & Fire" show since "Bring me his head".
Bro, It wasn't that sad. It's no where near the most heartbreaking moment in Game of Thrones.
We wouldn't see the Sept of Baelor because Baelor hasn't reigned yet.
Edit what you may be referencing is the Dragonpit
I just caught that!!!
So far we've seen 2 dragons, I LOVE how different they look and act. The princesses dragons horns look like a crown, great touch! The uncles dragon is massive and has that fat, almost deformed neck! That's just my first impression, I can't wait to see more and learn more...
The absolute monstrously that is Vhagar was shown in the end credit trailer too
So far a solid start. Also the first wife of Viserys is played by Sian Brooke, who played Eurus Holmes in the fourth series of Sherlock.
Wow that's Eurus she did look familiar
The slight eyes were my favorite part about the episode. Rhaenyra as cup bearer judging everyone who slighted daemon. The lords hating the fact they had to swear a woman take the iron throne
The sword's name is Dark Sister. Also, the king had to choose between letting both die or just his wife. It wasn't choosing between both, Aemma was going to die from the breached birth either way.
3:20 Not The Great Sept of Baelor. This is the Dragon Pit. The Great Sept of Baelor was constructed under King Baelor Targaryen, who would become king years after the dance of the dragons
Mushroom was the one thing missing! Hoping they give us some version of him eventually
why nobody mentions the fact there is a crown on Baratheon banner which shouldn't be there because they put the crown there right after Robert won the rebellion and became the king
That's not a crown, that's the lower points of the stag's antlers. Look at a screenshot.
Its the correct sigil because its the old storm Kings sigil before the baratheons took it. The crown is from before the conquest.
@@simondupree4742 yes its turns it it was a change they mads in the tv series
It is correct. It is the banner of house Durrandon. The 1st Baratheon killed the storm king, married his daughter and took his banner for his own. So they always had a crowned stag for a sigil because that is what house Durrandon had.
@@ThatGuy-bz2in yeah sorry its looks like it was a change they made in the tv series but then abandoned it
Oh it's back. The sets. The music. Large than life stories. And I'm loving it ❤️
First episode starts off right, on track with the storyline and can’t wait for the second episode.
CORRECTION: Viserys could only choose to either 1. Save the baby OR 2. let both of them die. Saving his queen was never an option.
nah he said he could either "sacrife one or both" so i think it was an option to save her
Incorrect: the baby was not in birth position. They had tried and failed to reposition him so that he could be born. Since he could not come out of the womb, he’d die for lack of Oxigen and also the queen would die for infections related to having a deceased baby inside of her.
This was actually a common cause of death for women at childbirth in the past. For reference, In the USA, the first successful section happened in 1794!!! LOL way passed the dragons and white walkers🤣🤣 … no but seriously… lol
@@sanyamchaudhary1132 he literally said that she will die either way, so you can sacrifice one(his wife) or they both die, pay attention
We all know IF IT WAS chose one or the other, he probably would’ve chosen the son, because even rhynerys (not sure if I spelled that one right) knew that all he wanted since he was king was a son to be heir to the throne.
I’m not sure about that. He clearly was obsessed with having a boy, but he also loved the queen. The show does not give clear indication of what would’ve happened in that case.
The costumes and sets were phenomenal in this episode, considerably better than anything on GoT in my opinion. GoT had a huge budget but it always looked a bit plastic and toyish; this episode made the world feel a lot grander and more real to me.
Set is small and the cgi was bad when they walk up to the gates can still it's small set
I felt like it's the opposite, especially the women's gowns and some of the metallic props looked plastic
I'd say budget of a bit plastic and toyish would always be more than better CGI, almost 70-80% of this season is on cgi, but no doubt they've made it look better obviously there's difference of a decade 2011 & 2022.
No. You're completely wrong.
I don't agree. Remember that got was made the first season about 12/13 years ago I think. In the later seasons the costumes were incredible and the armour looked better in the 1st seasons of GoT because they looked more real to me. Like the Hounds.
Viserys looks JUST like Xenophilius Lovegood. Which is hilarious, because the guy who plays Otto the Hand, literally IS Xenophilius Lovegood.
@Anoushka S I thought she sounded like Lena Headey, i.e., Cersei.
Something I noticed by her general dress-sense and hair colour (then confirmed on google) is that Hightower, is a relative of Margaery Tyrell. It's so funny that over 200 years their defining characteristics are hair colour and dress.
Pretty much everyone on this show are relatives. The high towers and tyrells are still seperate houses but I think the producers are trying to create parallels with these characters to GoT so that we can know them a little bit more.
@@aimee-leighkelly2906 they seem to be doing this with a few characters so far, Rheanyra/Danny is the most obvious one that I noticed, which should overall be pretty satisfying with how this all eventually turns out.
@@colonelclank2422 Yeah your right but I’d really not like to compare the characters though but it seems to be what they are doing or at least what the audiences are doing. Funny that you say Rhaenerya/Dany because I’ve been seeing a lot of people compare her to Arya (where Alicent would be Sansa) which is just wrong 😑. I’d love to get to know the characters for who THEY are and not who they are LIKE. I still don’t think that Alicent is like Margaery or Sansa, because they were both leading ladies and Alicent seems more of a “blend in/obedient” type.
I might be wrong but Margaery’s mother was named Alerie Hightower
@@aimee-leighkelly2906 Well, I think the Rhaenerya/Arya definitely does have its grounds. They're both stubborn, tomboyish (I hate that term because it makes it seem like theres girly things and boy things in life when everyone should do what they want regardless, but here we are) and would rather be fighting than sewing. They're also both very cliché archetypes. However I expect that their paths will very much diverge and I have a ton of hope for this series. The Alicent/Sansa is just plain stupid though lol
The doom happened 200 years before the show, 100 years before Aegon's conquest
Best recap video I've watched so far. Weldone
I just saw an interesting reddit post, in that Targaryen kings essentially follow a pattern of "King who gets sh*t done" and "King that is totally ineffectual" to "king who actively f**ks up the realm." So, King Jaehaerys was the king who got sh*t done, this King Viserys is the totally ineffectual king, and then Rhaenyra and his half-brother Aegon II actively f**ks up the realm with the civil war called "dance of the dragons"
I mean, you can fit pretty much all kings into one of those roles.
BONUS FACT
King Viserys was also the last dragon rider for Balerion before it's death.
One thing that I didn't understand about the joust was that it is true that people die in tournaments, but these guys were actually trying to kill each other (and some did). This seemed more a tournament that got out of hand than a regular tournament with maybe a death but not fight to the death rules. That seemed odd to me.
I think they were trying to portray just how much pent up violence is coming. The melee scenes were used to show how the Nobles, and even the common folk of Westeros were so heated in their rivalries and so divorced from the realities of war that this spectacle was seen as acceptable to the onlooking crowd. The page vomiting in the background as he had been very close to the action, as well as the mercilessness of the violence being portrayed was used to foreshadow the tremendous violence that is yet to come when the war finally begins, and how quickly people will regret getting caught up in it when it does. Especially as it had been established that there had been about 70 continuous years of general enforced peace with the Targaryens and their Dragons at the peak of their power, having only just lost Balerion the greatest of all their Dragons within the last Decade or so.
FACT CHECK
King Viserys isn't working on a model of Kings Landing, it's a model of Old Valyria.
The one thing that I’ve seen reviewers get wrong is the Maester (spelling) told the King that either he could loss BOTH his WIFE and CHILD OR save the CHILD. It wasn’t a decision between his wife and child it was between his child or NEITHER! So he didn’t sacrifice his Queen they said she was going to die either way so I would have had to make the same choice…. Feel bad for the King seems like an honorable man but we know that is NOT what makes a ruler successful in Westeros… just my 2 cents. As always Ryan is top 2 in my book!
When the end credits music came in I was basically sobbing.
Rhys Ifans was also in The Replacements as Nigel Gruff, the best movie he ever made. So hilarious. The episode is awesome.
Otto Hightower is Wiry?
He was also Hugh Grant's weird roommate in Notting Hill
That Hot Fuzz mention killed me..... I'm fighting to go on. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Big, big fan of the TV vision, not so much "The 8th" though, and I have to say, I'm liking the show so far. Having George as exec. is great to see. So I for one will continue watching the show. And I gave a like because I'm a nice guy.
@Anoushka S I always worry about something I'm looking forward to and then be disappointed about. Why should this be any different. With that said, I have high hopes I'm not dis-appointed again.
Found some sort of connection to GoT!
In GoT S4E7 when Bronn goes and visits Tyrion in his prison cell at around 35 minutes Bronn talks about his coming marriage with the younger daughter of a noble family. Tyrion questions Bronn whether he knows the line of succession as to Bronn respond with “Oh girls fall off their horses all the time and break their pretty little necks”
Hey Ryan, what do you think of this line from Otto Hightower "The Gods are yet to make a man who has patience for absolute power"? Do you think it was subtly implied at Jon Snow, and how he didn't cared for absolute power?
I refuse to believe such important meetings would be that easy for someone to evesdrop on otherwise great first episode.
The castle was specifically built that way so Aegon could spy on people.
@SPQSpartacus No. He built some of them.
Damn you were quick, ScreenCrush team!
Great video!!! I’m so impressed with how fast you released this. You’re crushing it, Ryan 🙌🏼
Because the 1st episode was released one day earlier on torrent sites. That's why.
4:26 - 'so I said to him I believe you're looking up the wrong end'
Missed opportunity for 'boom you looking for this' 🤣
Dragonscale and grey scale are not the same thing. Jorah got grey scale from his adventures with Tyrion. Night Sister or Dark Sister? It wasn’t A dragon, it was HER dragon, Syrax.
Otto Hightower is Littlefinger’s Ghost of Christmas past
Viserys is going to be alive and still king for another 18 years give or take, long enough for Rhaenyra and Alicent to have their own children and heirs. Which we will see later this season with a time jump and older actresses playing them. Will be interesting to see how they pace it and if Viserys eventual death will happen this season or they extend it into the second season. There is a lot of story they can flesh out in the meantime or they could just jump right into the “Dance” in this first season
His death and beginning of Dance would be a good season finale
Awesome first episode, love all the callbacks
A another great video. Please keep the great work.⭐👍😊
Few issues in this breakdown. The biggest one I noticed was the choice. He was given the choice to try to save the child or lose them both.
Just basically summarize the whole episode I thought I would learn something new
I think thats not a model of kinglanding, I think it was Valeria.. He is a history nerd after all
A great video, just one little thing--it actually looked like the king couldn't choose between the mother and the baby--the mother was likely doomed at this point, and he could choose between her dying peacefully and her dying in agony + possibly saving the babe. But that's how I understood it, and I'm not a doctor, so I don't know for sure!
This episode was amazing 🤩
I'm here for it, not a bad pilot episode!
Loved the premier episode - I'm just excited to spend more time in this world with a different set of creative hands in charge.
The only downside for me was the reference to the events in ASOIAF; they actually made me angrier about how rushed seasons 7 and 8 were. All that wasted potential...
Quite crying about season 7 and 8.... let it go..... you and EVERYONE else still watched the new show....
@@chriskoshinski Well.... yeah, we watched the new show. Why wouldn't we? There's definitely hope that new showrunners and a bit of retrospection can help to avoid the problems that S7 and S8 had. There's nothing wrong with being optimistic.
Awesome job on this video…. It’s hard to keep track of all the Names and you did a great job 👏 putting everything together.
I'm not sure how I feel about them making the Targaryeons always having known about the coming Long Night.
It feels tacked on to the end. it might end up distracting from the actual plot like some weird reminder of GoT
Also as far as I know it's big departure from the books. Where the Targaryeons don't get obsessed with that kind of prophesy until a couple of generations before GoT.
It’s is actually well established that it is common knowledge that the children of the forest turned human into white walkers as a means to protect themselves in the game of thrones universe. Them knowing about this is just some overshadowed part of history most people don’t know.
It is well established since the book came out even GRRR confirmed it
It really is quite nice seeing the old king making an appearance, even though this show is not about him.
I often wonder if some folks who are familiar with deep lore of ASOIAF just peruse around videos looking to correct people when they get the chance.
Nope. I see a video that looks interesting, so I watch it. Only correct so people who aren't framiliar with the deep lore can have the same understanding that I have. I know not every can or wants to invest in 8 books, some of which are $50 or more, so if I can share the information I have to others, I will! Gladly!!
Well, who else is going to tell these people the most obvious things
An open cut that doesn't heal has NOTHING to do with what we know about grayscale. It is way more probable to be linked to the whole deal of kings getting cut by the throne if they are unworthy / bad kings.
How do you cauterize a wound on a Targaryen? I thought they were impervious to fire/heat?
And how do you cremate them with dragon fire.
@@-NateTheGreat Dragon fire isn't ordinary fire.
15:20 The close caption subtitles in spanish for this video are perfect 👍🏽 😂
Yah yah, the host gets all the glory in these awesome videos. Shout out to the editors, great job in such a short time.
Another insignificant Easter egg: although we're on HOD.. did anyone else notice on GOT, when they were trying to kill Khaleesi(b4 her first dragon ride) at the tournament, Jonah touched her hand. And at that moment he already had dragon scale. So why didn't she get it? Also, when he was saying goodbye to her to go find a "cure" he didn't want her to touch him then. Soooooo.... ijs, did anyone else catch that? You may not care but 🤷🏽♀️
You misunderstood a couple things:
1. Viserys's choice was: cut the baby out, or they both die. There was no way to save his wife...even if the baby died somehow, they'd still have to cut it out of her.
2. Daemon was clearly upset at his party; he wasn't celebrating his brother's misery! He was mourning in his own way and said the wrong thing, reported out of context by someone who hates him.
Both of these things drastically affect the characterization of these two characters...
I thought he said sacrifice one or lose them both, implying either one.
@@JaneAxon123 That is what he said, but that's not what it implies. Think about it: how could they have possibly saved his wife? (With *their* medical technology; it would be possible today, ofc. Neither would have to die today, not for the breach birth part anyway.)
In this case, there was only one way the sacrifice could go.
I saw a comment earlier about Daemon that I had to go back and look again at, he never actually says the “heir for a day” on screen. Otto and Daemon hate each other so it wouldn’t be as big of a stretch for him to do that, especially since his path to power just opened up with him wanting to set his daughter up with Viserys and he would like him out of the picture. Daemon didn’t outright say if it was him or not when asked and his response doesn’t make me completely confident with it, so just a theory.
I think this show is pretty excellent for the first episode and they were very smart to put it only for HBO Max instead of regular HBO it will definitely give a lot more people to subscribe
Remember, we had season upon season in this world where absolute horrors were being depicted in virtually every episode lol from Theon's torture at the hands of Ramsay Bolton, to Harrenhal being shown as a massive ancient ruin used primarily, at the moment, for torture and depravity.
Every single episode I can recall, at one point or another, saying; "Jeezus! Can't [this character] catch a friggin' break already?!" 😁
Whether it was Arya, being captured and mistaken for a boy made to sleep in the mud in a cage, or burned bodies of children being strung up at Winterfell, or all of the disgusting terrors taking place at Craster's Keep, beyond the Wall.
We went from highlight to highlight like the battle of Blackwater bay to the Red Wedding to John Snow "undercover" with the Wildlings before having to fight against them at Castle Black, without anything even resembling relief in-between!
The introduction and fleshing out of new horrendous characters, and witnessing what even the most seemingly unimportant ones were capable of, doing even to the more important characters, or so we thought lol a band of Bolton men chopping Jaime Lannister's hand off, or multiple seasons of everyone believing we'd see Caitlin Stark reunited with her children once again, only to see her murdered unceremoniously by old Walder Frey!
And that's all without even mentioning what we had to watch Daenerys going through, across the narrow sea.
My point is; This world that George R.R. Martin created is quite typically an extremely difficult place for even the most seemingly "secure" characters to survive!
And, there was a reason we all tuned in every week lol because we needed to see what would happen next, because that balance of power was so precarious most of the time there really was no telling which one would be ahead or which one gone forever, week to week!
If they're trying to get everyone submerged back in all over again, they've got a TON of heavy lifting to do, even with George R.R. Martin right there helping them, for it to have any chance of being anywhere near as compelling.
But, I'm hopeful. 🤞
You're not wrong but did you read the Dance of Dragons yet? Things are going to get very bad very quick. It's pretty crazy.
Note to all young guys and girls, and including Ryan: If a baby is in breach and can’t be born, it kills the mother too if she can’t birth it. Either bloodloss or the eventually suffocated dead baby turning septic killing her. In current day, usually the option is to cut the vagina wider to widen the birthing canal rather than a C-section, but she would’ve died from that as well. There was no way to get around Aemma dying, birthing is a traumatic experience on the body. The issue is not telling Aemma what they were going to do at all, or knocking her out with more milk of the poppy at the least.
They already pointed out that more narcotics would harm the baby.
One thing to add: The king wasn't given the choice between saving his wife or son, he was told he could either save his son or none of them. Initially he would have likely not chosen his son over his wife, whom he clearly loved, but he was basically pushed to make the choice of saving his son. Now when they actually try to cut out the baby, we can tell this her dying was clearly not certain, as the mother screams and begs for life, putting up quite a fight (and she had survived multiple misscarriages and stillborns already). But at this point the king is so obsessed with the hope of having a son that he refuses to see that. After losing them both, I feel like he can finally realise what the pressure of having a male heir has done to him, which I believe is also part of why he finally acknowledged his daughter. I think the idea that women were always treated as lesser and usually just given the roles of wives/birthgivers but then rising to power through wit and intrigue is a strong theme overall in the GoT universe. A lot of the biggest players were women (Danny, Cercei, Margery/Olenna Tyrell,Ellaria)
Always on point. We will need an update after every episode 🤣👌
This is great. You’re great.
But enough recappers have misrepresented this. I really fell the need to defend my boy Viserys.
He was NOT asked to choose between the life of his wife and the life of the baby. It was a much more terrible nuanced trolly problem choice. He was asked to do nothing, “leaving it to the gods,” which is a euphemism for BOTH Aemma and Baelor die, or he ACTIVELY chooses to save his son, which means ACTIVELY choosing to kill his wife.
It’s 1. Wife and son die. Or 2. Kill wife, save son.
There is no philosophically empirically correct choice. The tragedy is Viserys’s. Not Aemma’s, as she was inevitably doomed.
Modern Terran (our) morality might waste my a discussion with said doomed wife, as opposed to drugging and gaslighting her. But the tragedy and judgement should have everything to do with the dilemma, not to methods and mores.
Very well said. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
I absolutely loved the premiere n thought they nailed it!! Can't wait too see more.
The cut, wound on his back is a metaphor the throne rejecting him. Not fit to be sitting in it
I don’t know how I feel about Otto right now either, I feel you Dog 😂😂
My only critique for the show is clearly the CGI budget is lower. The dragons and scenery are lesser than the old series.
To say that after episode 1 is very bold lol
Perhaps, but the dragons are still better looking than danys 3
From a design perspective
Vert nice reference to the Dream Weaver himself 👏👏👏
Long live The Targaryens!
FACT CHECK
The King was told to attempt to save the baby, or risk losing both. The baby was in breach and wasn't coming out before killing the Queen. So it was, save the baby or lose both.
The guy got his scrotum taken off and they do show it. And I’m sorry but I don’t think stress related e.d. Daemon is the most interesting. I think alicent with her stress fingers and rhaenera choking up at saying dracerys at her mom’s funeral are these subtle ways they are more interesting, but I’m super excited to see the more - I’ve read all the books and listened to the audible way too many times. In the book - Aemma’s death is so dry & I think the differences between seeing it happen and what the maesters wrote 100 yrs after based on some contemporary sources will be interesting. Much & more…little and less. Rickon stark looked different than I thought and SURPRISE no one made a fuss ab it…wonder white 🤔🐺
I think Ryan meant that GoT would have shown the actual cutting. Glad HotD didn't.