HOUSE OF THE DRAGON - The CURSE of House TARGARYEN, Explained
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Viserys was not "weak" he was too kind. But I guess it depends from the pov.
Rewatching last season, I truly appreciated his temperament, including his loyalty to his daughter and brother. If not for his wife’s death, I would view him as amazing.
I agree, he was benevolent and continued a time of peace.
He ruled over 26-years of peace, exiled his brother twice ( whom no one witnessed kill his wife) secured two marriages with the Velarions, and the realm prospered. If Raynera has just one child with Laenor, we may have never had the dance.
Tytos Lannister was weak, Viserys was a jolly and kind man
@@thejuggernaut5327 or if even one of Daemon and Leana's children was male.
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The reason the targaryens practice incest is because of the blood rituals/ sacrificies their ancestors created to bond with dragon. It implied that the blood of the dragon is literally dragon blood and breeding out of there bloodline alot might dilute it so they can't bond with dragons. It's shown in the tapestry in the intro. There's also appears to be some sort of psychic link with the dragons which would make them more passionate n instincts like there dragons.
True.
I also think that the blood magic that they used to bond with and tame dragons is why some are dreamers and can see the future.
I mean, isn't this basically said by G RR Martin himself?
The Targaryens believed in keeping their bloodline pure, despite their crossbreeding with the Velaryons and Baratheons still resulted in dragonriders.
So exactly like real royalty then. Looking at you “Saxe-Coburg Gothas”
Tbh by the point Danerys is born they shouldn't have any ability to bond with dragons. There is three generations of direct marrying out before the sibling marriages resume. By the time they started inbreeding again, they wouldn't of even had much Valyrian blood at all.
2:00 Daemon did not marry Mysaria in season 1!
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@@signeaarejrgensen61 Same. Also, in the show he did not get Runestone.
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Putting aside the fact that Leana was only twelve when she was offered to Viserys, Rhynaera would not have had the support of the Valeryons against Leana's son with Viserys. Corlys is ambitious, and Rhaenys would finally see her offspring on the throne after being denied herself. Whoever married Viserys would want their child-not Rhynaera- on the throne. Viserys cannot win. He could have later followed advice and married Rhynaera to Aegon, which while nasty to us- would have avoided the Dance of Dragons.
there were hints that the Grand Master fouled up the birth of Baelon the one day prince, otherwise all the problems might have been avoided .
@@SantomPhI doubt it...
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Everyone in Westeros is brutal... Boltons,Lannisters, Ironborn etc.... Targos just had bigger weapons. .....
Another theory is that the Targaryens have an empathic link to the dragons in both GOT and HOTD. The Targaryens use this empathic link to control and command the dragons, and the dragons feel and emulate the emotions of their riders such as when in distress. However, this empathic link to a wild creature flows two ways in that the animal wildness of the dragon influences the minds of the riders over time. The more the Targaryens interact with the dragons the more wild, violent, and ultimately insane they become. This may indeed be seen as a metaphor for the corrupting effect (i.e. insanity) of power (i.e, the dragons), that is the more the Tragaryen rider use the dragon or its power, the more corruption or insanity falls upon the rider.
From the beginning, Valeria always made me think of Melnibone. Anyone else feel like this?
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Yea, but they are very cool...
That Eryk pointing at Aryk is a good one, I wouldn't wear it. It is cool, tho.
Every time a new Targaryen is born, he said, the gods toss the coin in the air and the world holds its breath to see how it will land.
The acting was always incredible, but last sundays HOTD ep. I kept forgetting i wasnt watching a play. It was insane . Targaryans will always be my favourite house 🐉
@@VelvetMetal. none of it was good. Just word salad and drone shots
Same, long live the Dragons
I LITERALLY said out loud while watching "is this a fuckin play now?"
That’s actually good. Better than non sensical CGI zombie bears 😂
There are these theories, supported by the books (I haven't read the books - but I heard them from reliable TH-camrs, so they seem very believable to me), that the Valyrians were created by crossing humans with dragons (blood magic? genetic experiements?). Therefore, the people of Valyria (including the Tragaryens) have dragon blood. This allows them to bond with dragons. And this is the reason they don't want to dilute their blood, otherwise they may lose the dragon bond. And that's the reason for their incest.
the Valyrians were farmers when the dragons appeared near the Fourteen Fires. The theory is that dragons were merged between firewyrms (think Dune but with fire breathing worms) and wyverns , two legged dragon like creatures from Sothoryos using blood magic. The blood was of course human blood so they were magically and emotionally tied to their dragons.
The Targaryens were of the dragonriding class while others like the Velaryons and Celtigars were not, precisely because the latter two did not take part in blood magic rituals and preferred to live far away in Westeros. The Targaryens themselves did not take the rituals of blood magic with them to Westeros, so descent was the only way to become a dragon rider.
Rheanyra's search for dragonseeds leads her to a varied group of people from pure Valyrian looking people like the Hull brothers to completely foreign looking ones like Nettles, so the possibility of dragonriding doesn't necessarily diminish after several generations.
The incest actually died down after Daeron II married Myriah Martell, with the next three kings marrying outside the family (Meakar and Aegon V) or to a cousin (Aerys I )and no incest in their generation. Aegon was angry that his second son Jaeherys wanted to be with his sister Shaera. To make things worse, Jaeherys II believed a woods witch's prophecy that the Prince That Was Promised would be from their line, so he forced his children to marry each other, leading to the Mad King and his 3 strange children.
That kinda reminds me of vampires, they feel human emotions but a lot stronger we might fight a friend for sleeping with our girl but a vampire would put them in a coffin and bury them for a couple centuries .
Great video Breakdown
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The Joffrey incest theory is not a bad one. However, that would mean that in Valyria all that incest would of caused their passion and cruelty to manifest. How can one generation of Lannister incest cause Joffrey to be the cruellest King in GOT? It has to take more generations on incest for these traits to dominate.
This makes me wonder on the history of House Lanister. After the Targaryen’s…😏
Say he was naturally (genetically) pre-dispositioned to be cruel but then you add in incest and it’s like cruelty squared. People are different, the Targaryen’s are hot heads (yes some are evil), Joffrey seems like a narcissistic psychopath, not surprising given his mother is Cersei. Upbringing also plays a role in what traits are amplified.
@@tshepomaesela6045 you people share the same proclivities if you talk about this like it’s normal
Jaime and Cersei are Fraternal twins, maybe that was little to close to comfort fort he Gods
@@awwhellnaw8214 Very sketchy indeed.
Always perfect content
Let’s NOT FORGET that aegon n heleana Targaryen/Hightower are ALSO brother n sister!
The hypocrisy of Otto n Alicent is astounding
Great explanation!
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Did he say that daemon almost killed is nephew?
I know right? The fuck? Dude just accidentally slipped in a spoiler? Because it's hard for me to believe he could have just got that wrong. Would make me instantly think he doesn't even watch the show and just reads his script.
Probably and its probably why Jon exhibited more the less intense side but he also had a very diverse background on his other side.
Jon was entirely raised as a Northerner. His idea of being special is a being First Men.
I don't like the Acolyte but love HOTD. So all these things that people say we don't like about the Acolyte, HOTD has the same kind of things. So maybe we all aren't the things that people say we are.
Acolyte is awesome....
They use the same names just as much as OUR own historical royalty 👍🏿
...Sharp people don't have much problem keeping up😊
I completely agree with your POV.
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Targaryen madness always kicks in at some point, if we gave Jon enough time, we would of seen it with him too
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Um, Actually. Daemon never inherits ruinstone. Lady Arryn denies him.
And he never married Mysaria in season 1! They have been pretty off the mark on details lately in these deep dive ASOIAF videos!
You asked me 3 times in this video if something sounded familiar, and I'm ok with that.
This helps to prove the ending was right on Game of Thrones.
I think it stems from them not listening to the true dreams like Helena, the curse of using blood magic, and them believing in a false prophecy (then thinking they are the Prince that was Promise). In real history most of the royal families married their cousins…which created birth defects, tyrannical behavior, and succession wars. Martin was heavily influenced by the War of The Roses, Emperess Matilda vs. King Stephen, Greek/Roman/Egyptian history…and Queen Victoria’s Grandchildren (who all married into the Royal families of Europe…and who all fought against each other in WW1).
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Sweet home Westeros
Sweet home Valyria
Should've used a LoTR reference for passion
Guys, you are kinda late, MatPat and the whole Internet as a whole explains the madness of the Targaryen with inbreeding. Sill, a great episode
The Targaryens were genemaxxing so hard
I agree with your point about the incest. But I don't think King V was a bad King
You can’t talk about incest without talking about Craster. In the end I think we will understand his sorrowful life.
Here is what I think happened. Craster’s mother made a deal with the Night King to handover sons… and NO, not for sacrifice to be his sons.
Craster’s first daughter was from him when he was just a child and his mother then he bore children with his daughters, grand daughters, great granddaughter etc.
Yes, crazy can come out in this born of incest but there is also MAGIC.
Melisandre was wrong. She mistook, misheard, misread and or misunderstood the phrase “There is magic in kinG’s blood” the real phrase I believe is “There is magic in kiN’s blood” meaning incest, but only in “magical” families. This wordplay has been hinted at several times with a similar pairing “kinG slaying” and kiN slaying”. Since Targaryen have always been kings it was difficult to make a difference. She tried with Stannis but it was weak and tricks she could conjure regardless.
The Night King was looking to revive ancient Stark magic by compounding the kin’s blood each generation.
There are only two families that are bonded to magical creatures, the Targaryens and dragons and the Starks with dire wolves.
At some point the North Forgot and stopped kin’s blood mating which was probably around the time they also lost their dire wolves. However the traits that we see in the Targaryens we can still see in the Starks. Brandon Stark was considered a bit of a madman, but then there was Ned Stark too shy to ask girls to dance. Same traits with Rob Stark “passionate” and war like and “””PRE-FALL””” Bran who was regularly beaten at archery by his sister Arya.
I came to the series very late and decades after the first book and by then certain theories had been etched in blood… like R+L=J.
I don’t see it. I do not see Jon having one iota of Targaryen blood in him. In fact, I think GRRM told us explicitly that Jon is NOT a Targaryen. In the maestro’s diary that supposedly tells of the marriage between R+L, it is written on the bottom of the page (meaning it could have been added at a later date) it was only one sentence and it was in a diary that the maester kept a re cord of his bowel movements… GRRM is trolling and saying that that book was full of isht.
My theory is B+L=J
Benjen is Jon’s father. This is why Ned was lenient with Cersei when he figured out that her brother was the father to her children. What did Aaryn say “The seed is strong”… yes it is.Jaime and Cersei getting it on in the Old Keep was literally a reenactment of Benjen and Leanna’s trists. It bothered Catelyn to no end that Jon looked more like a Stark than her own children…. That is because he was 100% Stark just like Daenerys was 100% Targaryen both born from a pairing with brother and sister. The first person in the book and in the show Jon talks about fatherhood is with Benjen. It would also make sense why Ned sent Benjen to the Wall even though he had no brothers as banner men and his children were still babies. In the show, when Ned says he will tell Jon about his mother the camera pivots to Benjen.
Not all kin’s blood are weak or crazy some are balanced like the 1st Aegon, Rhaenerys Valarion etc. What if the real song of Ice and Fire was a Prince or Princess that was promised to blend these two families to forever restore balance to the universe.
If you ignore season 8 (good riddance) Jon and Danaerys are the best of Ice and FIre… wouldn’t their pairing bring balance to the universe?
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I think Ned killed Lyanna when he found out about the baby. (Tower of Joy never happened, it was implanted in Ned’s “fever dream”. I think he killed her and wanted to kill Jon just like he wanted to kill all the dire wolf pups at the beginning. He killed her because if he didn’t he knew that the Stag (Robert) would.
I think that the Night King who can skin change into the dead , skin changed into Lyanna and resurrected her for a moment and made Ned promise not to kill the child. I think this scared the isht out of Ned and this is why he broke thousands of years of tradition and buried Lyanna in the Winterfell Crypts to keep her spirit contained.
There I said it.
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The Tower of Joy did happen though. We didn't see it through Ned's "fever dream". We saw it with Bran viewing the past.
Also GRRM himself confirmed that Jon is Targaryen. He notoriously wouldn't let anyone adapt the books unless they understood them well enough to figure it out themselves. That was the main criteria for getting the show and D&D figured it out and were then allowed to make it.
Lastly Melisandre's prophecy all came from a different language so the whole kin/king thing doesn't work. If I remember correctly she thought that Stannis was the Prince Who Was Promised, but obviously he wasn't, and again it was later revealed that in whatever language that was used, "prince" and "princess" were the same word making the prophecy actually translate to "The Prince/Princess That Was Promised".
@@culchiefilms1791 In the book it was seen through Ned’s fever dream and in the show it was the 3 Eyed crow as in “All Crows are LIARS” showing it to Bran.
When did GRRM confirm that? He asked the showrunners who they thought were Jon’s parent but he never said that they were right.
Regarding Prince/Princess that is what I said … it doesn’t matter because BOTH are needed.
My theory is the this world is out of balance and it has been for a long time. I think they have to create a yin/yang ice/fire alliance to create balance so yeah it doesn’t matter they need BOTH a prince and princess.
The Azor Ahai prophecy is the BIGGEST LIE. It is pure manipulation over centuries to get a certain outcome that no one will deny or obstruct… think the Bene Gesserit lying for thousands of years to ingrain the people and culture the outcome they wanted.
I think that the basis of this series which is soooo relevant today is how propaganda shapes histories and futures.
...good video
i just wish rheanyra and alicent had ran away when they had had the chance
Right? I want a tshirt of Rheanyra and Alicent riding Syrax on a saddle for 2 🥲
Aegon the conqueror Burned Harrenhall and his sons only.
In the field of Fire out of 55,000 only 5,000 burned
War had to happen yes but he wasn't just out for blood had he been he would of Just burned everyone.
The army of the Dead was real! He knew it and did what had to be done
The anwser to Targaryen incest was talked about by G.R.R.M
Nothing to do with isolation. Only the valerian dragon Lord families had to practice incest in order to keep their bloodlines pure and control dragons. Regular folk of had no need to practice incest 12:26
When you look at how Jon Snow turns out, he really breaks the Targaryen incest curse
Rheagar and Lyanna were hardly the only Targ non Targ couple
There's a theory that Tommen and Joffrey were the mad king's grandchildren
Ryan
Why do you think we did not get a funeral scene of Vaserys
he didn't really want the public to see his withered body
Idk, entitlement & complacency explains Targ behavior just as much as incest don't you think?
It’s definitely not the power trip of having dragons or the generational incest
They should re-edit Game of Thrones to give all the Targs a Habsburg jaw.
“almost kills his nephew” 🤔
Daemon never inherited ruinstone and never married maysaria
I don't blame jaherhis for the civil war. He made it clear who was to inherit the iron throne. It was the hightowers self righteousness and piousness that did it. All they had to do was respect his decision. Edit: sorry I meant Viserys.
the decision to make Rheanyra the heir was Viserys'. not His father;s
What's interesting with Joffrey is he should've been mentally underdeveloped. That's more common from sibling inbreeding. Instead, he was just the psycho serial killer, which can just happen.
Imbreeding is more about physical abnormalities than psychopathology. The Hapsburg chin. The pharoahs of Egypt had genetic diseases.
I think the blood magic bonding with dragons is what creates the extreme behaviors in Targs. It may also be what mitigates the physiological problems they should be suffering from due to inbreeding.
Blood magik
Hmm that proves I love me some insane
+ the mad king
NO Ryan.... Alicent has dark hair and still has blonde kids...Jon Snow has dark hair. . Rhaenyra kept trying to get one like her.... She can't know what hair will come out.... Just unlucky 😥
I agree Rhanerya having 3 kids out of wedlock is insane 😅like girl really there's other ways to conceive a child
when her man likes other man
Might explain why the dragon needs 3 heads
For example.... You brought up tomon and joff... Might have spelled that wrong... Book marsala(sorry again) seemed nothing but normal... I mean I know her stitches kinda sucked... But I don't member anything crazy with her... N show marsala figured out Jamie was her dad and was emotionally developed to accept that shortly before her death... Idk if that means anything... And I understand the dragon has 3 heads is a book only thing... But that's what I thought of listening to your breakdown
Cersei's prophecy from Maggy the Frog was her three children would be golden haired and have golden shrouds. That's the relevant prophecy.
@@SantomPh I meant that screencrush used the Lannister bastards as evidence for the Targaryen downfall and how they can be overly extreme with there emotions... I'm suggesting that "the dragon must have three heads" is a might be less of a prophecy and more as instruction for how they should rule...
To make a Star wars comparison
For the Targaryens to rule... They would be most successful with
A father
The daughter and son who balance the force....
Just like fire and blood may be an instruction on how to hatch eggs
The dragon must have 3 heads might be an instruction to overcome the emotion damage made from sest babies
"I won't comment on this because she was just a teenager".. goes on to criticise her, a teenager on the same night, to having a relationship with another grown ass man
Tots team greener. 😂
you mean when he does kill his nephew
Pretty much everyone in Westeros has extreme personality traits.
All Valyrian's are cursed to die off, it's just that the Targaryans managed to last the longest via deception. Jon is the last remaining one and he can never hold a name or have a child (though he was probably going to try have another one in the show) and he will die with his brothers of the watch and his family in the Starks honouring his end and Westeros will move onto a golden age.
And then we will get Game of Steam!!!
all Valyrians in Westeros, maybe. There are plenty in the Free Cities.
I don't agree that the majority of Targs are "extreme" not in this world. Take a look outside the castle and the small folk and you will see extreme- violence, cruelty, torture, that's the world they live in. Yes, there are extreme examples where madness has clearly been caused by incest but it's not some complete familial affliction.
The Targs are cursed but it's a magical one. The moment they used blood magic to control the dragons, they were cursed. Viserys knew this. You can see it in both GoT and particularly HotD, were so much disaster could have been avoided but then a small act of fate shifts the gears towards war a tragedy.
I think the Valarians were punished for their blood magic and their hubris with the volcanic eruption and the doom. But the Targs were spared (thanks to Daneys the Dreamer) because the Lord of Light knew that Winter was coming and the White Walkers could only be stopped with dragons. Once the long night had been averted, Dany dies and the last connection between man and dragons was severed.
Raenera has always been a liability. At least Raenyse was married with the intention of having children (heirs).
Aemond did not ALMOST kill his nephew. He pointed a loaded gun at Luke to scare him and when it went off acted surprised. That’s the modern real life equivalent to what Aemond did. There was no almost or accidentally. The dragon dragoned. The gun went off. But you never point a loaded gun at anyone unless you intend to use it. And a gun can’t think for itself.
Bullet Points please
I mean even john and danny was drawn to ghe incest and they didnt even know they were related at first.
So House Targaryen is the Uchiha Clan of Game of Thrones
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Aemond TRIED to kill his nephew? He did.
This would explain Daenerys Targaryen... whether you liked or hated her fate.
I see that my comment under emergency awesome video went a long way 😉
Okay, but how does all of Alicent’s children have white hair even though they’re only half Targaryen like Rhaenyra’s children? Or are only men able to pass that gene on…?
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I thought Daemon never married Mysaria and Aemon did kill Lucerys
So john snow is targeryan , have that pation thing ,makes sence why he do all he do, by his hart not the mind 😊
Starks are known for having wolf blood, Jon's uncle Brandon burned hot and differnt starks
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I wish dragons and Targs survived
He never married Mysaria. That was a front
I thought the pregnancy was the ploy not the marriage…now Im confused lol
Me when I try to breed my sister:
Doesnt get white hair. gets lack of limbs