the BEST keyboard stabilizers in 2022
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ก.ย. 2022
- which mechanical keyboard stabilizers are the best? TX stabs? Staebies? Keebfront Stabbers? DUROCK V2?!?
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I swear I am yet to find a channel thats not pure cringe and just baseless opinions. Shouldn't be even surprised, happens when a bunch of incels get obsessed with keyboard sOuNdS and not have any technical skills or info.
calling stuff cringe and people incels in the youtube comments section is kinda criney incel behavior, don't you think?
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Hey Coley, I just wanted to say thank you for having one of the best comparison videos for stabs that I can find. This really helped me decide which direction I want to go.
I'm new to the hobby. This video was super helpful, coming in clutch, as I've been using the Durock V2s religiously. Will explore some of these options going forward!
I just got tx stabilizers and it solved the ticking I had with my keychron stabilizers, durock v2s and owl stabs! Thanks for the video!
Thank you for the great reviews, testing and showing your process!
Thanks for the comparison. I ordered the Staebies based on your recommendation and they feel great! zero ticking and smooth.
TX Stabs sounded really good even when dry. I would consider that as a big bonus because they should stay really silent even when most of the lube has weared off.
This is a really good video I liked your methodical approach. I didn't know about any of these stabs (besides durock), and I think the tx were the best sounding and much better than durock v2, thanks for the info 👍
I love your attitude and energy in this video, subbed.
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this video really helped coley!! thank you! i will get to stabs now :D
Exactly what I was looking for, Thank you!
Great video! Almost went through with my durock V2's but you sold me!
Cherry clip-in and cherry screw-ins are still my go-to. A little wire balancing and proper lubing and I've pretty much eliminated ticking. No holee modding or other manipulations done. I think one point not many people talk is that at the end of the day, since all stabilizers require some tinkering out of the box, it's a skill issue with the installer.
Some people don't build a new keyboard every day or week so having easier and better options is awesome.
I'm really shocked that noone to this day came up with a better stabilizer than the original cherry stab. The genuine cherry stabs have a membrane that you pierce or should i say bend slightly when you insert the wire and it sits nice and tight inside the stem. Is this so hard to do? I will go further and say that plate mount stabs are BETTER than screw ins. They simply provide more support for the key and give you a rock solid spacebar. I've never been able to achieve a spacebar that has zero rotational movement with screw in stabs...
Here are some extra thoughts on stabs that didnt make it into the video -
stabs I would personally avoid - KBDfans screw-ins (go out of tune like its their job), owlstabs (not on par with the stabs listed here, basically more expensive durock v2s), cherry clip ins (unless you literally cannot afford anything else, shoutout ultra budget gang we love you)
if you rock LONG POLE SWITCHES - you may want to consider gateron long pole stabilizers so that your stab keys dont teeter on each side - especially if you press really hard on the spacebar ends.
The crappy stabs you got that are plate mount with your cheap board (TESTER68, Gas67, etc) CAN be tuned to perfection with a lot of work, but actually can feel awesome + smooth because of the horrible tolerances. Just be sure to bandaid mod the plate so they don't rattle around (see my womier k87 botanical video!)
I have not personally tried c3 equalz, gateron ink v2, and gmk stabilizers, so please check out some other trusted reviewers opinions on them before purchasing.
Thanks for watching!
kbdfans stabs are the worst i have used besides some plate mounts.
@@justanotherpxrson same. they were the WORST. ONLY redeeming quality is that the washers are stickers. other than that, avoid!!!
@@coleydotmp4 i got screwed because they came with my kbd67 lite r2 instead of cherry clip ins...
@@justanotherpxrson tbh, i don't know which i like less. Definitely upgrade if you can.
@@coleydotmp4 I have 2 sets of tx coming in, one for my 67 lite and one for a keychron v1 i got a while ago
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I used to use Durocks when Tx and Staebies were rarely in stock, and no matter what I do they always have ticking issues. Now that Staebies and Tx are easier to purchase I have the luxury to try them both. It is difficult to say which is better since with minimal effort they both will sound good. If you have just one board, then I would say go with Tx stab as it's cheaper, but if you got multi board with different space bars then go with stabies. I actually bought the wrong Tx stab for my QK65 and I am glad I have a extra 6.25U from the Staebies as I used the 7U for my tiger80.
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A much needed video, thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
used durocks in several builds (screw-in and clip-in) and always had some issue with ticking or rattling unless i really got in there with a syringe. tried out tx stabs most recently and found they were much more forgiving, so they might just be my go-to for now.
Same experience! I have two sets of TX that have been awesome.
Is it rev3?
This is SO helpful! Thank you!
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you are great at youtube! this vid really stands out from any other in the keybaord category
That is such a stand out compliment, that means so much. Thank you so much!
just ordered the Keepfront Stabbers using your code
I love your channel mascot! They're so unique and quirky looking, plus great video. I personally found my TX stabs to be a little less smooth while gaming than equally modded durocks but that could just be my batch. 100% sound as good as tuned durocks with just basic lube though.
I actually like some of the bits of this video. Maybe you can make a monthly bloopers video with the best bits mashed together. Like unintentional parts that jolly makes other peoples brains tingle. You have something good going on here. Keep it up.
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I got the tx, and really happy with the results!
I watched this earlier and forgot to comment. Thanks for this video! I think the winner for me is the TX in terms of sound. I'm glad because I just bought a set!
Can confirm duroc v2s and inks are absolute nightmares to tune.
Just built in entire M1 after testing all the stabs they were perfect on the PCB.
Now fully assembled the spacebar has a tick that will not go away no matter what!
Which stabs did you end up using on your M1. I just ordered an M3 and am trying to decide which stabs to get (to replace the Akko ones that ship with it).
Would love to see a full video on how you like to lube them, if you recommend doing band aid mods or using pads on 1.2mm pcbs etc.
Great video and great editing.
Thank you! I hope it was helpful.
Love the cut away commentary! (yes Staebies sound like an STI)
Nice vid, would’ve been nice to see the 2u comparison as well. None of my keyboards use a full spacebar, and what’s the best spacebar stab may or may not be the best mod stab
Also would’ve been nice to see the C3 stabs to round out the TX/AE/C3 being considered the best newer gen of stabs, but you did say you just didn’t get them in your comment
Also, your camera was out of focus in some of the shots just FYI (unless you wanted the mic to be the focus and not you lol )
Yes to all of this. Apologies for not including 2u - i figured full spacebar would be best since those typically have the most ticking issues and are the easiest way to tell a stab's sound + feel. I think it's the most taxing on each stabilizer, so a good test. and yea - I've heard wishy-washy things about c3 stabs so i never went out and purchased them. I would check out some other reviewers for info on those!
and yes i noticed the focus at the end, trust me you don't need to point it out 🥲 rip
I’m building a board rn and I got Durock V2 stabs with them mostly because this video didn’t exist when I placed the order, but I just added some light lube with a syringe and it sounded great.
Idk if it’s another version of them or just where I got them from, but I thought it was worth mentioning, considering it took very little effort to tune it.
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Awesome video, Thanks for the feature!
my pleasure! Thanks for making awesome products!
I never tried any of the stabs in this video. the one time so far where I brought a keyboard that had screw in stabs, I went with owlabs stabs. I found them to be rattle free with lube and the little silicone dampening that provided to put under the wire.
Staebies are amazing, I would recommend avoiding XHT DBZ on the stab wires and just stick with 205g0. The tolerances are so tight that you have to be extremely light on the application or they can feel sticky (I've done several tests with various sets), even with incredibly thin application they still feel sluggish. The best stabs I've tried though and needing less lube isn't a bad thing. Also, completely agree with Durock V2's they are simply not good.
Very helpful video, thank you. Now if only TX would get some stock in the UK 😢
Good content
I really dig TX stabs from personal testing... but I had to straighten all the bars in my first set as none of the bars were straight (luckily, pretty easy with 2 pliers). Finished and tuned they feel really responsive and sound great.
smart - not a lot of people even know about wire balancing, let alone attempt it. I'd go into it in a video but tbh im no expert! i kinda just mess with it till its straight on my glass desk.
@@coleydotmp4 I do the same thing as you when straightening them out. Not gonna lie, there's been a few that took too long to get right because I went too far LOL
also thank you for including cooper! he’s so big now!!!
i know :') he's growing so fast
The good thing in Durock Stab is widely available, but yeah, still have rattle back even with lube ,holy mod and tune. I thought it was my keykaps but i changed 3 to 5 diffrent keycaps, heck the rattle and inconsitently still there. So I changed on Staebies and man it was great the only caveat is always sold out and have to order to other country and it take a week sometimes more than a week,. But the wait is really worth it.
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I will personally rank C3 V3 second to Staebies because TX is wobblier. Sure, it doesn't cause any rattling or ticking issue (at least in my case), but it can cause interference on some cases, like D84 V2. It comes with OPTIONAL stuff like stab pads, stem pads, stab wire pads and 2 different materials for holee mod (which I don't think it needs any; tested both and it didn't feel mushy. If anything, the teflon one felt more mushy but it doesn't matter on regular use).
And yes, I absolutely hate Durock V2. It not only causes interference because of how wobbly it is, but also, its wires are always bent (at least in my very small sample size of 3).
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I’ve never heard of stabbers before, such a helpful video!
they were surprisingly on the level of tx and staebies! I think they're gonna be a big player in the stabilizer space.
Thanks!!
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I'm fighting my Durock V2s with my Keychron Q1, and I've had had a pretty awful experience, especially with my space bar. I will definitely check out one of the alternatives.
Same here with the Keychron Q10. Ended up using the stock stabs, which turned out pretty good, 'cause I couldn't get the Durocks to stop ticking for the life of me.
Thank you for making this video! It really helps to see how these stabs are compared with each other. When you install the Durock V2 on QK65, did you have to use pcb shim or something as such due to the thinner pcb issue? Or will it work just fine without any pcb shim? Thanks!
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I just installed some Glorious GSV2 stabs and apart from my over lubing they're really good.
Yep. I think for the price GSV2 is unbeatable. That being said, its spacebar stabilizer sucks.
I'm a firm believer that basically any of the common stabilizers can be tuned to be rattle free and sound clean, but some require more work than others and people might not have as many materials on hand or as much experience tuning so it still makes sense to look for stabs that are just easy and relatively ready to go out of the box. Honestly the Wuque stabs and the C3 stabs are also solid options. Owlstabs could be good but the fact that the wires are impossible to actually tune makes them super hit or miss. I still kinda think that if people are gonna build lots of boards though, cherry stabs and a jar of XHT-BDZ is really the way to go
Nah durock v2 stabs will always eventually tick.
@@jonny555333 true you can make durocks sound perfect for a week and than it ticks..
From the soundtest I'd get the Staebies tbh, listening with IEM:s there's certainly still ticking on the TX when lubed and tuned.
I would love to buy some Staebies, but they're always sold out the moment the vendors list them. And earlier this year, TX stabs tend to sell out almost as often. However, TX stabs supply has been consistent as of late. I hope these Stabbers really are almost as good as Staebies, I'll try them out as soon as they're available.
if you did want to try TX, i swear by this vendor if you're in north america: minokeys.com/products/tx-stabilizers
Staebies are available in divinikey.
Coleyyy any thoughts on akko’s screw in stabs? Cooper so kawaiiii
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im glad to hear that you awoke to the sounds of durock v2 rattle!
Oh yeah i definitely agree that Durock V2s just aren’t the best anymore. I’ve been using TX stabilizers in almost every build ever since the 2.0 version came out and it’s just overall better.
you know whats up!!! I love my TX. tbh all 3 are great. Hoping more people will snag the stabbers and they become popular too.
how about owlab?
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Got the TX as well for my build and its honestly freaking fantastic. Never had my spacebar sound this good
If only I had a keyboard that supported PCB mount stabilizers, holee mod shall be my go to until some company makes plate mount stabilizers with tighter tolerances.
ugh i feel that! but tbh - i actually think crappy clip ins can sound fantastic if you tune them right - and because the tolerances are so bad, they're actually incredibly smooth! I always use dielectric grease on the wire for those though - to really tackle the rattle.
I've had good experiences with C3 myself... except for the one time the stem came out of the housing.
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Did you try to clean stabilizers? New to this. Need to do it after previous owner. Tried to wash with soap with water also tried gently apply isopropyl with a q-tip didn't work either. A lot of white residue on the stem after krytox I guess and sticky grease after holee mod from bandaid while housing covered in thin layer of oil I guess after warm water. Shit sucks lol. Scared to dip them with ispropyl heard that plastic could melt. Tips?
this helps a lot... thinking about customizing my keyboard lately...
good luck! what board do you have rn?
@@coleydotmp4 lychee g96 pro... i love it especially the MO green switch... but would love to customize it a little bit... i guess i was inspired by that painted keyboard you did a while back ^_^
@@anabell7184 Glad I asked, that board only supports plate-mounted stabilizers, so none of these stabs would work, unfortunately. I would recommend lubing and tuning the stabs! i have a mini tutorial on how to do it to plate mounted stabs in this video: th-cam.com/video/C8A7jiEaIZc/w-d-xo.html
also im really glad to hear my custom painted board inspired you!
1:13 oh i get it, youre talking into the void. Lmao made me laugh when i realized
Very informative!! There is also "Gateron Stabilizer V2 - Screw Mounted" and I wonder if anyone knows how they perform in comparison with these.
I've heard decent things - but they are $30 base price
I'm currently using the ink v2 stabs and they perform much much better than durock v2s. the housing in the stems are pretty tight but I still holee modded them. I have yet to try tx stabs or staebies but just from what I've heard they're probably a lot better even still
gateron v2s are on lvl of staebies, maybe even better because they work with warped keycaps and arent scratchy
Reasons why I still use Durock v2 in many of my builds.
1) I have a large supply
2) I run builds that only need 2 stabs Left shift and Enter Key
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What’s your thoughts/observations on Owlstabs?
Bought a barebones, and am deciding on whether to buy new stabilizers, or mod my current ones. The ones I’ve got came with my Keychron V6.
I had a set come with my QK65 - I really didnt like them. They were very similar to Durock v2's, and my pair would rattle no matter what i did. And because of how the wire is made, you cant bend it to be straight. Basically, it's a gamble buying them, you might get bent wires that are near impossible to fix, or you might get a perfectly straight wire with no rattle. I personally am not a fan.
I'm not sure which of the keychron stabs specifically come with that specific keychron (the green ones or black/whites? those were pretty decent.). But if you want to upgrade, I'd get TX or Stabbers.
Would've liked to see more stabilizer variety included. Can't say one is the best without giving them all a fair shot. **Cough** owlab stabs
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TX is great for low effort builds. It doesn't require much work to make them sound and function great, however the space bar is not the ideal tone I aim for. Steabies quality control is trash--- I end up having to pick pieces of plastic left behind form manufacturing. My personal favorite are the black/silver gateron v2's, specifically if you're going to use long pole switches. They feel tight and you don't end up with a floating shift key.
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Lol I kind of liked the Durocks a lot... The TX are a pain to place 😅 and at least my set is pretty stable and smooth :-P
Just installed some txstabs and my god the difference. Every build is using them from now on
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Hi! for some reason, all the wires in stabilizers I get from multiple brands are all bent. Especially the short ones, and as you know, they are very hard to tune. Any recommendations for striaght wires? Thanks!
have you had any experience with the akko screw ins? they seem to be pretty good bang for buck but i have been hesitant to try them.
I used them on a mod007s, but im not sure if that board comes with the double-shot akko stabs. I found they needed lube of course but had no issue tuning them. Wish i could've compared them in this video :(
One thing that a lot of videos about stabs don't mention (maybe I missed it) is the different mounting systems that these stabs use. Being the Noob after watching this video I wasted money buying a set of Staebies and then a pair of TX Stabs (after I realised the Staebies didn't fit) only to realize my keyboard used plate mounted cherry stabs! 😅
oh no!! well... if you have holes for the screw in/clip ins on your pcb, you might be able to file down the plate to fit the stabs you bought. but that requires screw holes on your pcb!
@@coleydotmp4 the fault was with me as I should have done more research and checked up on the board I was going to build in (and learn about stabs!) >.
@@lazyreuvin You're good! I made the same mistake, but opposite on my first board! bought plate mount for a clipin/screwin board haha.
I agree with you!!
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coley i think you have the nylon version of the Staebies you have to try the pc/polycarbonate version its way better than tx stabs and nylon Staebies
Now, we need an update with tx ap stabs!
I haven't tried staebies but Gateron stabs seem best I've tried. Durock seems about the same. C3 is nice but rattly cherry is ok. Owl seems bad from the set I tried but I'm going to retune
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Question for you. I am buying a gas67 and I don’t know if I should go through the pain of modding them or, should I get like tx stabs, staebies, or like owlab stabs
What’s your opinion
you should lube your stabs regardless. I'm not sure how good the stabs that come with the GAS are, but i would maybe try modding them first, and if you cant get them to sound good, upgrade the stabs. watch alexotos's tutorial on modding stabs!
My TXs feel and sound bad and strange respectively with longpoles, and i found out they made separate longpole versions on newer revisions. Do staebies and stabbers have similar problems or is that a Clip-in thing? TX thing? I'm clueless. I want a set that'll work fine with both regular and long stem switches 😤
All stabs have a problem with longpoles. It's unfortunate - the work around is pretty simple though. Either don't press your keycap in all the way (if you do, this will cause "teetering"), or you can cut small pieces of material (i've seen masking tape used) and use tweezers to put them into the keycap holes. Not the ideal solution, but better than nothing. Otherwise you could buy stabs build for longpoles - like those TX's, or another brand like gateron that has a longpole option.
This solution might also work for you: www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/tpjz2n/long_poles_and_stabilizer_solution_with_ring_mod/
Very helpful video, thank you. but what in the freak is that sound in my left ear @5:53 ??
Edit: so it sounds like your mic decides to make some sounds stereo and most sounds mono? very interesting lol
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Omg. Show more of the corgi
I think your mic is outputting in stereo, it's pretty distracting. Other than that tiny nitpick it's a great video!
For TX stabs, what is compatible with Drop Ctrl High Profile? 1.2 or 1.6mm?
Great video, super helpful! I decided to buy some Stabbers with your code.
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Do you do the illustrations for your channel? If so do you have any place where I can check out more of it and what you use/how you do it? Thanks :)
hey! Thanks for the compliment, it means the most. I would love to show you my work outside of this youtube but it would probably doxx myself, since illustration/animation is what i do for my day job! I'll just have to keep slowly adding new illos and animations in my videos over time :( but seriously it means a lot.
@@coleydotmp4 Ohh that's so cool!! No worries then :)
It's a style that I really like seeing and I've always been curious as to how someone achieves that look :)
Keep up the great work you do then! (both for the videos and illustrations)
@@vidolitas Thank you! Yeah tbh its really simple character design, then i will sketch it out, then I take a rougher edged brush in photoshop and i color it in by hand instead of filling it so that it has a texture!
Would the TX stabilisers work in a Ducky One 3? I would rather buy aftermarket stabilisers than need to lube and do the holee mod.
Are the ducky one 3 clip ins or screw based? I think it might be clip ins
time for you to upgrade to a mode envoy my friend
All I did to my stabies was literally lube on the stem and some on the wire
What u think about akko stabs
Also would tx stab screws go on gmk67's pcb couldnt find anywhere that info but one guy told that it simply doesnt fit
I wish i had the answers for you, but i havent tried the akko stabs, and I don't have a gmk67 :( All i can say is that the TX stabs are clip ins, not screw ins. As long as the plate/pcb support screw in stabs, it *should* fit. BUT If i remember correctly, i think that board is plate-mounted stabilizers (also it should come with a set in the box). Just make sure you buy stabs that work on the board!
most of these are just not available here and import would make them expensive, funnily enough i found owlstabs v2 cheaper than durock v2 around here and the owlstabs are what durock wished they could be
can the TX AP platemounted stabs fit in the redragon k617 fizz
How can I tell if a certain set of stabs will be compatible with my keyboard? Is there some kind of standard?
Yes - Youll have extra holes near where the stabs go. These are screw holes. This means that both clip in stabs and screw in stabs are compatible.
If there are no holes, and the plate that comes with your board has bigger spaces for each housing of the stab, the shape to specifically fit plate mounted stabs, then your board only supports plate-mounted stabs. Plate mounted does not automatically mean bad - but make sure you perform the bandaid mod *on the plate!* to hold the stabs in really tight to get rid of rattle. That + a good job lubing + tuning will result in a perfectly acceptable stabilizer.
If you have a plate that supports plate- mounted AND screw holes, congrats, your board supports both. This is kinda rare though. Usually in budget boards that come with plate mounted (cheaper for manufacturer) but also have the holes in the PCB for screw ins (for compatability marketing purposes). Hope that makes sense!
lmk if there's a board you're confused about - i can help you determine which stabs it supports.
hate me all you want lol but tuned meticulously the Durock v2s sound the best still, they are just a pain in the ass. personally i just use TX because theyre the most available and easiest to tune.
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Hey i got a question: I have a cherry MX LP 2.1 and want to change my keycaps but i dont know what name the stabilizer have...
I only use the finest stabilizers, freshly harvested from a Redragon K552. 😎
If the amount of rattle is a measure of success, then you are winning my friend! haha. but those reddragons can sing with some heavy modding.
damn do the tx work with the gmmk pro brass plate>?
Finally grabbed some Staebies and put them in my Keychron V1 and... half the keys wouldn't even come all the way back up. The tolerances are so tight that they seem to not even work on some keyboards. Oops.
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I bought a keyboard that had no rattle at all, stock, but the stabilizer was really fragile and it broke when I took of the keycap, sadly I had to use the stabilizer on my old keyboard and now it has a lot of rattle :(
i just installed some stabies in my board and the spacebar feels mushy!! i think that maybe i over-lubed then but I don't think its the case, they also feel super scratchy! is that like a charactistic or im i doing something wrong? i honestly prefer the stock akko plate stabs for my spacebar.
I have the same issue! We’re you able to solve the mushiness?
@@ElNino512 couldnt fix it, tryed using very little g0205 and still mushy, so i replaced the spacebar with akko plate mount that i had laying around and called it a day.
Hi, what is the current best clip ins stabs available in the market?
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ive bought 2 sets of tx stabs they are really good but when i press lightly they tick ever so slightly. Im guessing it could be me putting not enough lube on the wire or i may have to use xht-bdz rather than 205g0
I would try plugging the butt on the side that is giving you the issue! bdz is not a requirement at all imo
Hi. Do you have an akko board that uses TX stabs? Sadly my staebies wont fit in the plate and I want to know if TX would fit
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Nice camara angles
its a constant battle to find a way to frame the speaking shots lmao, my main issue is I don't have a lighting rig and my walls are black. super hard to get that perfect shot!
what is the website where i can buy AE boards staebies
nice
I've been looking to buy tx stabs but they ask for measurements like 1.2 or 1.6 and I don't know which to get, any ideas?
depends on the thickness of your PCB!
Isn't the final endgame to put a thin rubberised coating on the ends of the stabwires
You're probably right. friction and slug would be the main issue i could see with that. but its definitely a good lead