@@skagenpige88 it's a meme for gaming, when someone is cheating, it is common for a joke to be that they have a better (insert gaming accessory that really does not mean much). This could be the gaming socks that were viral, or as said in this comment, a gaming chair
@@Lion-eb3tz he actually got 99.8% even tho he chose not to play the best move at some point cuz he said "that would probably win on the spot" and he didn't want that
2 engines isn't necessarily boring especially if you spice it up by throwing in unconventional openings and unconventional moves in there. Engine games are "boring" in that you can play 10,000 games and like 99.99% of them are going to be straightforward draws but when there's an interesting one, they tend to be entertaining because the engine will make move after move that makes no sense to a human but is actually good at a higher level than any human is thinking at.
Part of what is so interesting is just seeing the different engine strengths, as they don't necessarily play to the full strength of the engine even if they're calculating at a depth which should offer higher strength, or if they're calculating at higher depth they're taking top moves of a lower depth version of the same engine by trying to sandbag, for example. Cheaters playing cheaters is more interesting than plain engine play because of stuff like that.
Whenever you feel bad about your play, realize that at least you are not a cheater. These “players”, if you could even call them that, can’t even play a game without bot assistance. I’m proud of you, 500 rated player.
I've beaten human 2500+, and lost to bot 1000. The whole thing (online elo) is a fraud. I've played games where 800s make 0 mistakes, blunders and 1 inaccuracy. I only still have my subscription because trial ran out and they auto charged. Will use it to learn the book fully but then I am done if this isn't sorted.
“Two cheaters going toe to toe” is funny enough by itself. But then he hit us with the “And then cheater 2 played another cheater a few games before that!” Had me laughing harder than it should have.
That was the most accurate description of a chess cheater i have heard from anyone ever. The game is so addicting and not always so rewarding, making people resort to cheating. That was the most accurate one and levy you couldn't have said that one better.
11:50 you forgot to mention that if black decides to take the Queen after Qe7 exd7 is checkmate! Yeah white saw all of that after he played Qd5 of course 😂
@@cmGolfer True as it is, you can't just drop the most unoriginal and unrelated to the video npc ass comment and then try to call out a bot. Far as I see it your attempt at like begging is arguably more botlike than yeaman
I still remember those days when Levy use to be angry for having no sponsors now every video has big sponsors behind them. This guy has grown tremendously.
The stare today was something special. It gave me a certain feeling inside. Like i have been empty inside up to this moment. Thank you for this stare levy. 9/10
Cheater 2 must have had the strongest and fastest chess engine known to mankind coz mans got 98% accuracy playing every move in 2-3 seconds or maybe its magnus in disguise
That was a hilarious video. At the same time it's pretty sad to see that so many people cheat in online chess. Sadly, it's only wishful thinking that they'll ever go away.
levy is such an amazing creator. Only someone such as levee could make content like this with such enthusiasm every day. Thanks Leveigh for your amazing contribution to chess!
Day 2: Levy you are an absolutely incredible teacher and the ONLY reason I have gained 200 elo in the past week is because I watch your videos, thank you so much 🙏
I don't know about this. With all due respect I think detecting cheating is very difficult and as you said in the video, sometimes cheaters do not cheat all the time: they either cheat at some parts of the game or some games but not others, which makes it quite difficult to detect with certainty; so everything online is rather suspicious. I believe there is something better than accuracy to detect cheating and it's something that you've mentioned: when a significantly non-intuitive move is played, corresponding to a chess engine going at a depth of 20-30, then ok that's most likely a cheating move, but everything else not so sure, if somebody's playing against a rather weak opponent it's not unusual to get all their moves corresponding to the best moves of a chess engine, hence accuracy on its own is not a good indicator.
Am I the only person that thinks we can learn more from studying cheaters games than we can from studying bots playing each other? P.S. congrats on the award Levy, you deserve it
@@s_ame1135 absolutely. Knowing what a bot plays against a bot is essentially "perfect theory " Knowing what a bot plays against a human teaches us "perfect play"
Hey Levi, for Cheater vs Cheater games, how did the cheaters take 1-5 seconds per game. Don’t they take 5-10 seconds since they have to put in the moves, let it calculate and then do the move?
I actually learn quite a lot from this. Like the way you should think out lines of attack and strategies and how to stick to them. It's kinda funny to see how a computer will ditch any attack ideas immediately the moment something minor changes on the board.
(For context, I’m not very good.) When I was in the 400 elo range, I played against a cheater who let me get up like 10 points, started cheating, beat me and trashed talked me being bad. (I know, how do you do that? I’m bad and back then I was worse.) I honestly couldn’t think of anything more unsportsmanlike than that person playing an amateur, cheating to win, then trash talking the amateur. What a garbage person I’m glad they were banned.
Todays stare seemed distracted and impatient, perhaps Levy has dinner plans and needs to wrap this video up quick. It made me feel cheap yet reminded me Levy is a human and I'm not entitled to his enthusiasm, despite this rushed stare he still decided to bring us top notch content and that is truly commendable and displaying of his unwavering dedication. 10/10
How do people manage to cheat that fast in a blitz game? 1-2 sec moves and they're using engine? I thought it was 5-10 sec moves that were 'cheating' and suspicious, now it's 1-2 sec moves aswell?
Hey Levy, since i started playing Chess 960 i dont play regular chess anymore, 960 is much more crazy and fun, maybe you could make some video oriented to improve your 960 game
Man, your timing with these ads is unlucky! This is the second time this week that you're sponsored by something I already purchased with another content creator's code. Next time, I'll wait a few days to make sure you don't get sniped again 😂
3:46 Me, who would actually do that- Big brain time Then again. I would blunder 3 moves later. What do you expect, I am merely an average gotham viewer
Good catch but how in the world can engines calculate that quickly in blitz? Like 3seconds for a move? Wouldnt it take them that long to change the engine board? Or have engines gotten that good now (or is it just low depth)
I assume that if someone is using an outside program to cheat, that they've also got scripts running that move their pieces for them? Otherwise, how in the world can you cheat in blitz? Clicking through all those screens in less than a second.
11:41 queen back to e2 and onward was the moment i lost benefit of the doubt for the cheaters, i thought maybe they could just be insane at chess but nah the rest is to crazy
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pin of shame..?
so if I do it twice?
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this is like your 100th video about two cheaters playing each other... and i'm gonna watch every second of it
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@YeaMan noooooooooooooooooooooo your not a bot
@YeaMan thats what a bot would have said
@YeaMan Regardless of whether you're a bot, self-promotion is eye-roll worthy.
@@DagonFrazer Bruh, youtu.be. Really. What the fuck
Very bold of you to assume they are cheating before taking into consideration just how powerful a good gaming chair is, Levy
Well that would be random.....unless he is being payed to advertice a gaming chair o_O
@@skagenpige88 it's a meme for gaming, when someone is cheating, it is common for a joke to be that they have a better (insert gaming accessory that really does not mean much). This could be the gaming socks that were viral, or as said in this comment, a gaming chair
@@Hifivemaster_ Oh, thanks...ive missed out on that meme.
@@Hifivemaster_ does not matter much?
True true good point
I started loving chess because of Levy.
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Same although I smash my table when I lose.
Levy started loving me because of chess
Same
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Can we just appreciate the fact that these guys get 98% when cheating but Hikaru can play 100% honestly.
He can’t play 100% but he can play like 94%
@@Lion-eb3tz he actually got 99.8% even tho he chose not to play the best move at some point cuz he said "that would probably win on the spot" and he didn't want that
@@Lion-eb3tz no he played above 99% whd so did magnus. ( a lotta engines even say it's 100% , but top stockfish god says it's 99 pr more)
@@Jeyserhatesyou Top stockfish what? It's an engine
@@user-pt2el1tt1r hello
levy has truly masterd the ways of youtube.. not only is he entertaining but he also teaches at the same time.
Now thats the way to do it
it's so hard for me to resist skipping the sponsor when the video is the only thing i'm payinf attention to
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We sack our time, and it’s worth it
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Today's stare didn't t feel like a stare. It felt like a bigger brother Tryna knock some sense into us. You da man Levy!👊
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@@DagonFrazer wtf is that username
Yeah too bad hes Jewish tho 😔😔😔😕😕😕😕💯💯☝🏾
I love how its technically just 2 engines against each other which is boring in itself, but levy always turns copper into gold
He can alter Atomic Structure
Also just violate some couple of basic laws of physics
It isn't just two engines, its also two players trying to play coverup aswell which spices it up a lot more.
2 engines isn't necessarily boring especially if you spice it up by throwing in unconventional openings and unconventional moves in there. Engine games are "boring" in that you can play 10,000 games and like 99.99% of them are going to be straightforward draws but when there's an interesting one, they tend to be entertaining because the engine will make move after move that makes no sense to a human but is actually good at a higher level than any human is thinking at.
Part of what is so interesting is just seeing the different engine strengths, as they don't necessarily play to the full strength of the engine even if they're calculating at a depth which should offer higher strength, or if they're calculating at higher depth they're taking top moves of a lower depth version of the same engine by trying to sandbag, for example.
Cheaters playing cheaters is more interesting than plain engine play because of stuff like that.
Whenever you feel bad about your play, realize that at least you are not a cheater. These “players”, if you could even call them that, can’t even play a game without bot assistance. I’m proud of you, 500 rated player.
I've beaten human 2500+, and lost to bot 1000. The whole thing (online elo) is a fraud. I've played games where 800s make 0 mistakes, blunders and 1 inaccuracy. I only still have my subscription because trial ran out and they auto charged. Will use it to learn the book fully but then I am done if this isn't sorted.
@@frankjaeger760 good!
I’m into 450 but gracias
thank you
tank u
“Two cheaters going toe to toe” is funny enough by itself.
But then he hit us with the “And then cheater 2 played another cheater a few games before that!” Had me laughing harder than it should have.
Levy is so entertaining I really watched the whole sponsor💀
Like who doesn’t 😭💀
levi is the best chess influencer
Dude really could have made a movie out of that 2nd game lmao. It was just that crazy and only Levy could convey that so well
That was the most accurate description of a chess cheater i have heard from anyone ever. The game is so addicting and not always so rewarding, making people resort to cheating. That was the most accurate one and levy you couldn't have said that one better.
I'm too low elo to understand most of these reasonings and moves, but I just love the passion you bring the story with.
It's crazy how big chess has grown because of this man. Thank you Levy.
I started loving levy thanks to chess
bro I lost braincells trying to understand this 💀
Lmao i switched levy and chess in my head when reading, had to double check due to the other comment
Technically probably true tho
Whaaa
@@jalensos8982 I realized I was reading it wrong after reading your comment lol
Wow. The sheer intensity of the game and Levy's commentary during the 2nd game were spectacular. Such a great entertainer.
11:50 you forgot to mention that if black decides to take the Queen after Qe7 exd7 is checkmate! Yeah white saw all of that after he played Qd5 of course 😂
Thank you Gotham for Producing so much stellar content, time to go smash that like button!
@YeaMan you should !!!! YOURSELF right now
@YeaMan u r a bot
@YeaMan respond to
My comment if you are not a bot with any other comment besides what you bot
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@@cmGolfer True as it is, you can't just drop the most unoriginal and unrelated to the video npc ass comment and then try to call out a bot. Far as I see it your attempt at like begging is arguably more botlike than yeaman
"Great Video Levi"
Also won two games of chess earlier today because of your videos!
You're a great resource!
Keep it up, and thank you!!
Wow
Amazing stare, your eyes looking down thoughtfully was beautiful. 9/10
Just beautiful.
i agree
the look in his eyes was great 9/11
Absolutely stunning as always.
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GREAT VIDEO LEVI
btw I rly appreciate all the chess help you've given me for the past couple years and through Covid when I started to play more
I still remember those days when Levy use to be angry for having no sponsors now every video has big sponsors behind them. This guy has grown tremendously.
Ok Potter
"I'm going to be so sneaky"
-Cheaters, 2023
Get milked and humiliated infront of millions of people for content
-Levy, 2023
"Finally, a worthy opponent. Our battle will be legendary"
I haven't played chess in years but I'm so happy that a game like this still has severe cultural relevance, even among the youth
The stare today was something special. It gave me a certain feeling inside. Like i have been empty inside up to this moment. Thank you for this stare levy. 9/10
15:30 sounding like my dentist after I've been a little irresponsible for a while lolol
Thank you Levy for uploading a video today so you could give my dopamine receptors another hit.
@Sniper 😂😂😂
Cheater 2 must have had the strongest and fastest chess engine known to mankind coz mans got 98% accuracy playing every move in 2-3 seconds
or maybe its magnus in disguise
That was a hilarious video. At the same time it's pretty sad to see that so many people cheat in online chess. Sadly, it's only wishful thinking that they'll ever go away.
came back to chess because of this guy
I'm still bad but it's still fun hahaha
much love from brazil❤
Hey Bro come to my channel
youtube.com/@DanceofKings
I need your help!
Instead of banning them they should be forced into servers where they only play other cheaters, that’d be great.
I love all the work you put inside us
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r/holup
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Great video Levi! I was expecting something else in that tab... not an easter egg ;) I was looking for copper and found gold
Hey Bro come to my channel
youtube.com/@DanceofKings
I need to your help!
levy is such an amazing creator. Only someone such as levee could make content like this with such enthusiasm every day. Thanks Leveigh for your amazing contribution to chess!
Lehvie is so great!
its Læve
stop misspelling léighviæ’s name
Why can't any of you spell Leighvay?
It's obviously Layvie
Day 2: Levy you are an absolutely incredible teacher and the ONLY reason I have gained 200 elo in the past week is because I watch your videos, thank you so much 🙏
When you get 415k views in under 10 hours, that's how you know you got an honest audience.
Sometimes I play a grandmaster level game and the other game I play like shit it depends on my mood
Todays stare was curious, surprising and fairly arousing. Keep it up Levy
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"arousing" 🤨📸🤨📸🤨📸🤨📸🤨📸
@@najimi41 can a girl not be aroused by a man?
Hey Levy! I love your videos, please keep up the good work and give us more quality content!
Your courses make me good at chess and I only wanted to thank you for that.
I don't know about this. With all due respect I think detecting cheating is very difficult and as you said in the video, sometimes cheaters do not cheat all the time: they either cheat at some parts of the game or some games but not others, which makes it quite difficult to detect with certainty; so everything online is rather suspicious. I believe there is something better than accuracy to detect cheating and it's something that you've mentioned: when a significantly non-intuitive move is played, corresponding to a chess engine going at a depth of 20-30, then ok that's most likely a cheating move, but everything else not so sure, if somebody's playing against a rather weak opponent it's not unusual to get all their moves corresponding to the best moves of a chess engine, hence accuracy on its own is not a good indicator.
Different Cam? Your Camera crop is different, especially in the first 50 seconds.
Loving these vids! Keep up the amazing work!
Thank you for being such an informational teacher to all of us when it comes to chess. I began learning chess more and more because of you
Am I the only person that thinks we can learn more from studying cheaters games than we can from studying bots playing each other?
P.S. congrats on the award Levy, you deserve it
Is there a difference?
@@s_ame1135 absolutely. Knowing what a bot plays against a bot is essentially "perfect theory " Knowing what a bot plays against a human teaches us "perfect play"
I wish this levy guy would start posting some chess cheaters. I don't know why he dosen't 🕊
Computer vs Computer could be boring ..
But when levy farms cheaters..
There's nothing better than that 🗿🗿
The reason why levy is so fun is because all the emotions he can show while talking about chess 😂
Thank you Levy for the work you do ❤❤
Youre the reason ive gotten into chess lately. Love the content
Both of the cheaters be like: Aha! I was expecting that move
Dang, Levy. You shouldn’t be so quick to judge, maybe it’s Magnus Carlsen’s alt account :”””(
Much love!
Today's stare is a 6/10 intimidating but not looking at the camera truly an interesting moment in the chess world.
I just want to say how much I appreciate your content. Todays stare was 10/10.
Hey Levi, for Cheater vs Cheater games, how did the cheaters take 1-5 seconds per game. Don’t they take 5-10 seconds since they have to put in the moves, let it calculate and then do the move?
I use the scaredy cat bot picture for my pfp because i suck
Theory: The account was made and someone lost a lot but then they got angry and called in their GM level brother.
Your videos are amazing Levy! Don't stop and ride the wave!
@YeaMan bot. Report for spamming.
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Todays stare was heartwarming 10/10
True dat
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@@DagonFrazer bot
@YeaMan even if ur not a bot I do not care
I actually learn quite a lot from this. Like the way you should think out lines of attack and strategies and how to stick to them. It's kinda funny to see how a computer will ditch any attack ideas immediately the moment something minor changes on the board.
(For context, I’m not very good.)
When I was in the 400 elo range, I played against a cheater who let me get up like 10 points, started cheating, beat me and trashed talked me being bad. (I know, how do you do that? I’m bad and back then I was worse.)
I honestly couldn’t think of anything more unsportsmanlike than that person playing an amateur, cheating to win, then trash talking the amateur. What a garbage person I’m glad they were banned.
2:12 is when the video starts if you value your life.
c'mon Gotham that GM title is in sight, we are all rooting for you.
real
Todays stare seemed distracted and impatient, perhaps Levy has dinner plans and needs to wrap this video up quick. It made me feel cheap yet reminded me Levy is a human and I'm not entitled to his enthusiasm, despite this rushed stare he still decided to bring us top notch content and that is truly commendable and displaying of his unwavering dedication. 10/10
Great video levi! Keep it up man!
levi
How do people manage to cheat that fast in a blitz game? 1-2 sec moves and they're using engine? I thought it was 5-10 sec moves that were 'cheating' and suspicious, now it's 1-2 sec moves aswell?
Hey Levy, since i started playing Chess 960 i dont play regular chess anymore, 960 is much more crazy and fun, maybe you could make some video oriented to improve your 960 game
*67 Excellent Moves*
*95 Best Moves*
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*17 Brilliant Moves*
Man, your timing with these ads is unlucky! This is the second time this week that you're sponsored by something I already purchased with another content creator's code. Next time, I'll wait a few days to make sure you don't get sniped again 😂
3:46
Me, who would actually do that- Big brain time
Then again. I would blunder 3 moves later. What do you expect, I am merely an average gotham viewer
These games are actually entertaining There should be a world CCC (chess cheating championship)
Good catch but how in the world can engines calculate that quickly in blitz? Like 3seconds for a move? Wouldnt it take them that long to change the engine board? Or have engines gotten that good now (or is it just low depth)
I assume that if someone is using an outside program to cheat, that they've also got scripts running that move their pieces for them? Otherwise, how in the world can you cheat in blitz? Clicking through all those screens in less than a second.
This video is essentially just watching two computers play each other
If it wasn't for all the cheaters I play every day, my Elo would be like 2253 instead of 850
Bro got an accuracy if 98.6
A funny number if you know the temperature in degrees Fahrenheit of a certain something…
11:41 queen back to e2 and onward was the moment i lost benefit of the doubt for the cheaters, i thought maybe they could just be insane at chess but nah the rest is to crazy
When Gothan runs out of ideas he doesn't steal from other people, he steals from himself.
crazy how long you need to be doing something to tell if someone is cheating. In Call Of Duty I can insta tell, for chess, not a damn clue.
The game if cheaters is decided by the chess bot and they can't report each other too
Great video Levi!
11:50 the Move e6 is crazy
It isnt possible for black to take the white queen because pawn to d7 would be mate
Is they are real players just using top engine moves or just some bot who is automatically playing games with top engine moves ? 🤔
Crazy positions bots come up with
All you guys got nothing on my chess bot! I introduce the king Stockfish 15.1
its hard to cheat and not be suspicious in chess than play legit chess
People don't cheat because chess is difficult. They cheat because they have a character deficiency.
You had the chance to bring in the meme with the three spidermans that are pointing at each other fpr the thumbnail and you missed it!
random lonely guy: i kissed my mom
normal people: why would he do that.....
thats so gross
levy: because thats the top engine move
The French defense mittens variation
I want u to make 2 chat gpts verse each other's with the illegal and legal move they say
OMG missed chance to use the Spider-Man meme with all three cheaters… ouch
I just hit 900 elo
Anyone else get his servey asking for the name of this video directly above the video?
6:41 I would have played that but when they take my rook I would resign.
Gotham: Three 🙂 Two ☺ FIVE👹 Two 😊 Three 😁 Three😊 One🙂
Can you please update the discord link? It says that the link has expired