The Strange Canon of Batman: Gotham Knight

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  • @WarpingFist
    @WarpingFist  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

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    • @isaiahyinko7182
      @isaiahyinko7182 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Did you grow up with The Dark Knight Trilogy back in 2005-2012?

    • @isaiahyinko7182
      @isaiahyinko7182 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How old were you when the Trilogy came out?

  • @NobleRaider2747
    @NobleRaider2747 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +201

    Nolan himself was actually given a test screening of the film: his only recommendation was to remove Killer Croc's tail

    • @TheBatman39
      @TheBatman39 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

      Yeah, I heard that too. Weird that they wanted to give Croc a tail since he almost doesn't have one most of the time.

    • @user-uo8mx3cv5k
      @user-uo8mx3cv5k 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      Love that. Nolan who's known for his complex, multi-layered writing style, and his only suggestion was removing Croc's tail

  • @hattoripool1533
    @hattoripool1533 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +225

    I always liked the fact these shorts take place in the Nolanverse. Like it shows us just how many things really happened before and between the films. It’s just adds so much to the world that they really didn’t have to do, they could have said that these shorts took place in another universe but they didn’t. I also like the Electromagnetic Batsuit, makes me wonder how advanced tech in the Nolanverse truly is compared to other versions of Batman

    • @WarpingFist
      @WarpingFist  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      @@hattoripool1533 well the canonicity is a bit iffy but I like to imagine things like this did occur.

    • @Green_Jack_O_Lantern
      @Green_Jack_O_Lantern 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@WarpingFist if if was not the nolanverse would just be batman fighting random villains every couple of years

    • @Mugen2024
      @Mugen2024 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      o nolan nem participou disso, mas eu amei muito mais essas animações. Poderiam fazer algo assim de novo

  • @natto4now
    @natto4now 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +131

    Bruh
    Back when WB cared bout it's animated movies

    • @WarpingFist
      @WarpingFist  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Hopefully their quality can increase

    • @DavidMartinez-ce3lp
      @DavidMartinez-ce3lp 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Yup

    • @nalday2534
      @nalday2534 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      DC Studios better turn the tide around

    • @ultron_sigma
      @ultron_sigma หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah well if you look at the animated projects that has batman in it, it becomes good. While other movies or series focusing on other dc characters didn't invest people.

  • @thephantompenance
    @thephantompenance 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I never understood the ending of Working Through Pain until recently:
    Criminals typically dump their guns only after they’ve been used in a crime, likely murder. So Batman’s digging up dozens of crimes-murders-he failed to stop. It’s the emotional pain he never recovered from.

  • @spicycurry7238
    @spicycurry7238 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    i just wanna say that the cross fire episode where the detectives are caught in the gang war is by far my favorite in the anthology. The ending where batman just walks through fire still gives me goosebumps to this day

  • @ArcTrooper269
    @ArcTrooper269 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

    I always liked to think that even if the events of the antology happened on the Dark Knight universe, the antology is more like an artistic reinterpretation of said events, think about them as an exagerated & cartoonish version of the canon events

    • @calebsolonas6085
      @calebsolonas6085 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I never knew they were apart of the nolan movies always liked to think of them as stand alone batman tales thats how good it was

    • @josiahcmiller
      @josiahcmiller 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Boo

    • @ShockwaveFPSStudios
      @ShockwaveFPSStudios 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s super invalid.

    • @ArcTrooper269
      @ArcTrooper269 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ShockwaveFPSStudios no, invalid is UNIRONICALLY liking Taika Ragnarok & ShaneBlack-Man 3 🥱

    • @ShockwaveFPSStudios
      @ShockwaveFPSStudios 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ArcTrooper269 Dude, It’s ok to like a movie and acknowledge their flaws. It doesn’t make them 100% bad. Heck, I can point out every flaw in the Dark Knight Trilogy if I wanted to.

  • @TheBatman39
    @TheBatman39 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    I watched this movie for the first time 2 months after i watched The Dark Knight on theaters. As a huge Nolan Batman fan, i consider this movie to be fully canon; it adds a considerable amount of lore to the Nolanverse, and it's just a fantastic release on it's own with stunning visuals and great Batman stories that explore the character in distinct ways, but it was also produced and written by Emma Thomas and David S. Goyer, which imo, certifies that this is canon in the trilogy, as they both worked respectively as the producer and scriptwriter for the three films.
    But regarding the timeline, the time period between Batman Begins and The Dark Knight was 5 years, not just one; this was clarified by an official lorebook that was supervised by Nolan and the rest of the production team that worked on the trilogy, that was released on 2012 during The Dark Knight Rises release called "The Dark Knight Manual: Tools, Weapons, Vehicles & Documents from the Batcave" along with another official book called "The Art and Making of The Dark Knight Trilogy", but in the Mannual we have more lore like specific birth and death dates from characters (Rachel and Harvey died in 2004), but there is a note written by Bruce Wayne where it says that after spending 5 years as Batman his Nomex armor took too many blows, and he decided to update with the more flexible and lightweight suit he used in The Dark Knight.
    This fact was even mentioned by Christopher Nolan on several interviews and guidebooks, where he stated that his version of Bruce Wayne would spent 5 years or so as Batman cleaning up Gotham as some sort of estimated plan of his, to then retire and maybe try to live a normal life. Meanwhile, the Gotham Tonight videos were made as a marketing material by Warner Bros based on a general idea of the film's script and may not have been directly supervised by Nolan. Besides that, the Joker's dialogue was not explicitly referring to Batman's first appearance, but rather, when his actions started to have a direct impact on the mob's sense of impunity, because tbh it wouldn't be too believable, if in just one year the lawyers and the police would turn on the mob right when Batman showed up, since in Batman Begins the city was such a hellhole that no one noticed that Crane was drugging Falcone and there were crooked cops that dared to kill the D.A, and no one cared to search for him except Rachel as she said she would have to search him in the bottom of the river.
    Based on that long info and according to the Manual's several dates, newspapers, GCPD plates and overall lore; it was established that Batman Begins was set on 1999, The Dark Knight on 2004, and The Dark Knight Rises on 2012; while Batman Gotham Knight could be placed in the time period between the year 2000 and 2003 when Batman progressively cleaned the city until the mob got cornered.
    There is a huge amount of info and details about the trilogy's timeline; and it would be cool if one day you could check the guidebooks i mentioned and make a video about it.
    Edit: Sorry for this essay-length of a comment, I just wanted to elaborate on this interesting topic that almost no one knows. Like any other guy who has watched the movies, i used to believe for years that Bale's Bruce was Batman for only a year, instead of 5 years or so as Nolan and Goyer intended to.

    • @JohnSoroka-j5z
      @JohnSoroka-j5z 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There's also a mention during one of the Dark Knight news interviews that the Dark Knight takes place roughly nine months after the events of Batman Begins.

    • @TheBatman39
      @TheBatman39 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @user-ts9zs4tn8k Those are the Gotham Tonight news coverage, but they aren't fully canon with the movies, and they contradict the actual time period between the two films.

    • @JohnSoroka-j5z
      @JohnSoroka-j5z 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@TheBatman39 Great point. I hadn't taken that into account. I suppose the Dark Knight news reports can still be canon if we ignore the references to the year being 2008 and the nine month time jump statement.

    • @Bran-x8q
      @Bran-x8q 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I always figured that only a year between Begins and Dark Knight was a stretch, and in my own personal headcanon, the time gap was more like 3+ years. Glad to see that other source material confirms this!
      And yes, despite what some people may say, Gotham Knight is canon to the Nolanverse. Takes place between Begins and Dark Knight

  • @natto4now
    @natto4now 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    4:43 man I got to say that this scene with Alfred reaching out to Bruce but Bruce not being able to take his hand cuz he's holding all those guns
    Idk why but it's almost sad and depressing because it not only encompasses the theme of the trilogy with Alfred wanting Bruce to move on, but also batman as a whole, this and the Wayne's tombstone scene in mask of the phantasm are really good underrated scenes

    • @monkeydlogan
      @monkeydlogan 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      That shot has lived in my mind for years. Its disturbingly compelling.

    • @user-uo8mx3cv5k
      @user-uo8mx3cv5k 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      A man who can't let go of his pain because it's almost the only thing that defines him. Haunting shit.

  • @amin2636
    @amin2636 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +62

    Marvel sponsering a batman video is kinda funny to me lol

  • @DemonDethchase
    @DemonDethchase 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I'd love to see an animated series using the art style of either Crossfire or In Darkness Dwells.

    • @amterasutenma2547
      @amterasutenma2547 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'd love for a series to use the designs of Field test.

    • @DemonDethchase
      @DemonDethchase 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@amterasutenma2547 Bishi Brucie 😆 😅
      Interestingly enough, I'm not sure if you might have noticed it yourself, but I think Patterson bares a striking resemblance to Bruce from Field Test!
      And also, just for fun, I recall in commentary for that short, the Dark Knight's design was described to be Batman as Gatchaman (or G Force and Battle of the Planets as it was known as in the West). It is a cool design, I do quite like it, with the high collar.

  • @luigiscartoons9223
    @luigiscartoons9223 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

    Wait wait wait... Gotham knights was connected to the bale verse????
    I didn't even know this was even connected!

    • @WarpingFist
      @WarpingFist  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      Well, it’s more like it’s “kinda connected” since it’s never been definitively confirmed to be in the same universe.

    • @TheBatman39
      @TheBatman39 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      ​@WarpingFist Although both Emma Thomas and David S. Goyer worked on this anime movie, so that adds a bit more authenticity that this is canon imo.

    • @sanjayraju988
      @sanjayraju988 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      This is connected to the Nolan Batman films in the same way ‘Spider-Man: The New Animated Series (2003)’ is connected to the Raimi Spider-Man films.

    • @isaiahyinko7182
      @isaiahyinko7182 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@WarpingFist What was your first introduction to batman?

  • @christianmanka3884
    @christianmanka3884 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I like to think this expands the Nolanverse just because those movies make the universe feel small

  • @brandonspain12345
    @brandonspain12345 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    I'm gonna admit it, some of these character designs would've been more appealing than the actual Nolan designs. I know those films are meant to be grounded in reality but still.

    • @StraightEdgeKnight19
      @StraightEdgeKnight19 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Like who? These character designs look just fine in animation. The characters looked fine in the films.

  • @petarrakoc1416
    @petarrakoc1416 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I rewatched that croc fight so many times as a kid, awesome film

    • @isaiahyinko7182
      @isaiahyinko7182 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I was 9 when gotham knight came out in 2008. How about you?

  • @rakunkng9895
    @rakunkng9895 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    this movie is so overlooked and underrated it hurts

  • @everia_games
    @everia_games 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Griffith batman suit is crazy

    • @amterasutenma2547
      @amterasutenma2547 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Badass, makes him look demonic at times..

    • @Jens4488
      @Jens4488 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Its in arkham knight and one of my favs bc of this animation

  • @DarthArachnious
    @DarthArachnious 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I thought this version of Batman fit better in the Arkhamverse than the Nolanverse. Not just because of Kevin Conroy.

  • @Esqueleto980
    @Esqueleto980 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Definitely one of my favorite batman animated movies

  • @TheSsjJoker
    @TheSsjJoker 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    it’s cool to see it have different art styles, and in the Nolan trilogy even if the continuity is a little iffy I like the idea of all this happening before the dark knight

  • @adrianthearmorwarrior1605
    @adrianthearmorwarrior1605 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Imagine if we got something like this with Sam Raimi Spider-Man like in between films. Having him face other villains like White Rabbit, Hammerhead, Scorpion, Rhino and Shocker.

    • @GLUBNOIR
      @GLUBNOIR 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      White Rabbit? I've never heard of him 🤔

    • @adrianthearmorwarrior1605
      @adrianthearmorwarrior1605 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@GLUBNOIR actually White Rabbit is a female.

    • @GLUBNOIR
      @GLUBNOIR 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @adrianthearmorwarrior1605 Oh, well, who is *she?*

    • @adrianthearmorwarrior1605
      @adrianthearmorwarrior1605 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GLUBNOIR you should look her up in google.

    • @TE-fc8xw
      @TE-fc8xw 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I like to think in my own head canon universe it did happen.Maybe between Spiderman 1-2 he went against shocker and rhino,2-3 he faced Hammer head and electro.

  • @shhh5743
    @shhh5743 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This movie when I was kid man😭😭I watched it on repeat so many damn times. I had it on Blu-ray and whenever I see it I just get memories of the creepy ass animation with the opening scenes with the skater kids. This movie was something special

  • @ShockwaveFPSStudios
    @ShockwaveFPSStudios 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Never saw it as canon to the Dark Knight Trilogy. I always saw Gotham Knight as it’s own separate movie.

  • @reddays8448
    @reddays8448 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    GOTHAM KNIGHT IS ONE OF THE BEST EVER AND MOST UNDERRATED

  • @MrDumdumkilla
    @MrDumdumkilla 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Always thought this kinda gave rocksteqdy the idea of arkham city

  • @DavidMartinez-ce3lp
    @DavidMartinez-ce3lp 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I have this as part of my Batman DVD collection, along with the Dark Knight trilogy, of course.

  • @DAVETHEGRAVE
    @DAVETHEGRAVE 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Remember watching this and loved it

  • @Elmurcielago_84
    @Elmurcielago_84 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Expect scarecrow died in Gotham Knight

  • @Ali-ci8fg
    @Ali-ci8fg 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    i heard producers of this said it not technically canon but it inspired by the element of Nolan verse is those type of thing it could be canon if you wanted to be
    Honestly i always look at it as it own thing since i was kid
    For example in part work through pain bruce learn how to deal with physical pain and we see when he fight those thug's he expert martial artist but in Nolan movie it said that before league he just basically street fighter level guy but he goes train with league then after fire and explosion he save ra's and come back to Gotham nothing else but in animation he was helping doctor in some country that was under war in begins he always was living like criminals to know them better
    My point is if you wanted it could be canon but technically it just like Spiderman the new animated series it was supposed to be part of raimi verse but then it become it own thing after cancellations and second movie came out because kurt conner die in animation but his alive in spider man 3

    • @kwayneboy1524
      @kwayneboy1524 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Eh I treat it as canon as it helps fill in the gaps between films and explains what happened to Crane and Arkham after Batman Begins.

  • @sanjayraju988
    @sanjayraju988 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is connected to the Nolan Batman films in the same way ‘Spider-Man: The New Animated Series’ is connected to the Raimi Spider-Man films.

  • @meylinlibertaskeef3346
    @meylinlibertaskeef3346 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    love studio 4c

  • @JojokimVT
    @JojokimVT 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    So in live action, Christian Bale is Batman but in these shots, Kevin Conroy is Batman? Did not know that

  • @jonathangrant480
    @jonathangrant480 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My favourite animated batman film. Nice to see it get some attention

  • @cody3504
    @cody3504 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I feel like I have to rewatch this now I remember the different artstyles

  • @avboyyy2
    @avboyyy2 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I remember this movie coming on adult swim and it lowkey scared me as a kid😂
    the scene with deadshot vs Batman on the train always stuck with me

    • @isaiahyinko7182
      @isaiahyinko7182 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How old were you when you watched it on adult swim in 2008?

  • @sahilhossain8204
    @sahilhossain8204 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Lore of The Strange Canon of Batman: Gotham Knight momentum 100

  • @attackofthecopyrightbots
    @attackofthecopyrightbots 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    bee train really making batman look like griffith

  • @elusivent
    @elusivent 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im subscribing because i never knew these short movies were connected to the Nolanverse

  • @redlinrangerstudio5331
    @redlinrangerstudio5331 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    RIP Kevin Conroy

  • @Joe_Kerr_9797
    @Joe_Kerr_9797 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Underrated Batman film, I personally think it's in it's own universe.

  • @Xrisqn
    @Xrisqn 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's SO FREAKING GOATED animated film!! I made an edit before 15 minutes

  • @Democracy_glazer
    @Democracy_glazer 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Man i love your videos

  • @HarishBabuM
    @HarishBabuM 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    He volunteered as Doctor 💀

  • @takeiteasydude616
    @takeiteasydude616 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why does batman look like griffith in the thumbnail lmao

  • @Elijah.L
    @Elijah.L 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love your videos…keep it up

  • @senior_sakuga
    @senior_sakuga 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Oh you mean peak?

  • @panospanagopoulos6054
    @panospanagopoulos6054 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    How did Scarecrow survive tho?

    • @WarpingFist
      @WarpingFist  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Don’t think about it

    • @TheArkman360
      @TheArkman360 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Maybe the pipe surrounded Scarecrow when it crashed onto him but didn't hit him? Like he was standing in the hollow part of the pipe?

  • @attackofthecopyrightbots
    @attackofthecopyrightbots 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    nolan batman is a pretty shit fighter i cant really buy any of this being in the same universe

  • @yorusan007
    @yorusan007 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    why this is little known to nolan's fanssss?

  • @thegreatacolyt1277
    @thegreatacolyt1277 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fr

  • @andrewfisher8309
    @andrewfisher8309 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    first