@@abiodunsulaiman2297 ive only ever seen her in one book and i think all she did was get mad and punch somebody so yea i dont really know anything about her
Eh. He was probably excluded cause he is technically part of the bat family even if he isn't really around that often. He still does have a bat themed suit after all
I love the idea of these big name cities having lesser known or unknown heroes looking after sections of them. I wonder who, if any, are in places like Metropolis, Keystone City, etc.
Idea, we all hear about what wouldve happened with no batman, city destoyed big woop, but if there was a book about all these characters collaborating as a sort of gotham league with no batman or batman sidekicks in sight and they have to defend againt brainiac or something big like that
It's a shame that we didn't get a version of a Gotham Knights game featuring or at least included these characters. It could have really set it apart from the Arkham series while painting Gotham itself as a very colorful place that exists outside of just Batman's influence and show how much work it takes to protect the city.
He doesn't have a city, he just protects the entire earth, he's like Wonder Woman where she also doesn't have a main city but mainly operates in America. Martian Manhunter being in Gotham is mainly in adaptions, in comics his first appearance was in Colorado.
@@grinshady0164 if you give a random Punk Kryptonite does Superman automatically lose? When Superman fights Metallo does he just lose because the core is Kryptonite? No! Because that's not how weaknesses work. Shut up and grow a brain
@@kaine8911 yes the original was Colorado but that means nothing since almost everything after it has had him coming from Gotham and even choosing his Detective Persona because of that landing.
Metropolis gotta be the safest and most dangerous place to live because there's superman and other superman like heroes but also superman threat villains
Besides what's been mentioned, there's Edge. Yes, his name is Edge, yes his superpower is being covered in edges, yes he wears leather. Then New Bloods were shamelessly edgy like that (pun intended), but Edge himself is relatively wholesome, though he didn't really doo too much.
Missing out Onyx is disappointing. She needs more love and she's one of three non Batfamily vigilantes who is actually sanctioned by Batman to operate in Gotham.
Well one of the others was onboarded at around the same time as Onyx and was a literal supervillain who forced herself in the no-no way on Nightwing as far as I remember, so I'm not sure how good an point that one is
Everything aside, I think that Ragman story was easily the best of these in terms of actual integration. You not only have a sensible villain that isn't some weird overpowered secret society that Bruce somehow NEVER detected. But you also seem to have him actually being on the trail, just a bit late as he's not directly involved as Ragman is. I kinda get that they can't do that type of meetup with every vigilante who gets their own series, and it would probably undermine it alot. But it really just always calls into question why the hell he's not anywhere near these conflicts considering all of his resources.
He does with in the shadows. Maybe he watches but doesn’t intervene to see how they handle themselves and if they’d be a possible ally or just a protector in his absence. Gotham is a big city after all
Honestly all of these gotham centric heroes could easily form a new iteration of tye outsiders insead of a seperate team their a network of gotham based heroes think the shadow's network of agents helping him with intel, surveilance transport etc. Some of them even teaming up with members of the batfamily on ocassion. As for the numerous undisclosed secret sociwties controlling gotham my take is the the court of owl either infiltrates said organizations or allows then to exist in order to keep the bat distracted from their activities.
I like Whistler. I imagine Gotham dogs are probably as tough as the humans of the city. There could have been some very interesting storylines involving dog-afflicting diseases; mad scientist experimentation; actual werewolves; demonic crossbreeds from all the hellhounds summoned by insane cults; and run-ins with packs of hyenas that have formed from The Joker and Harley losing their pets (Bud and Lou) every time they get dragged back to Arkham. She could've been DC's Squirrel Girl with the right writer.
Simon Dark doesn't get enough love. I've had so many disappointments over people not having even heard of him that I went into this video expecting you to list everyone but him.
Duke Thomas (The Signal) is one of my favorite members of the bat family. I think he under utilized and relatively unknown. I hate how many comedy sketches have Alfred fight for baman during the day even after we have this perfectly good character in need of more development.
I didn't know about Whistle, but I really like the idea of a hero with a janky power, not too much in the way of resources and problems in their personal life. This is a person who has to get really creative to save the day and since they're not in a position to deal with a world shattering threat, it gives the creative team more time to go into into character development stuff.
Ngl, I could feasibly see Ragman and whistle team up to take on whoever in gotham. Ragman is the powerhouse, Whistle is the brain and tenatious mascot that can bring him back from the brink. A less balanced duo than batman and robin, but with the possibility for just as much depth. You could even make the balance grow over time by expanding her powerset; maybe whistle can gain a stricter control over animals over time, something like skitter/Taylor Herbert from Worm. Another idea for expansion is that she can soul bond with a certain amount of animals over time. A dog gave her control over dogs, but then maybe she does so w/ a pigeon and gets the powers of gliding, or speed (but like her arms have to be tucked or smth quirky), or a squirrel and etc
Now I need an alt universe comic where Batman dies before he's able to create the Bat Family, and so instead the city needs to be cleaned up by all the Gothamite rejects teaming up instead.
If I had the power, I would put all these heroes together and make a team. I would make a story about how they have to solve a murder mystery, the murder of Batman.
Won’t lie, I love how The Creeper’s insanity is expanded upon in future DC comics! Even the New Batman Animated Series adds this change by letting some of the Joker Chemicals Change him! These changes make him far more interesting!
I mean, Jason Blood actually lives in Gotham. Presumably any supervillain that attacks the City without the Batfamily there is gonna get an Etrigan to the face in short order. . .
That’s so funny. I never knew ditko would draw the comic and the. The writers would fill in the story from the pics. Watching your video, I noticed a panel where the creeper is going “maybe if I walk like this it’ll confuse them,” and that totally reads as the writer not knowing what to do with the creeper all hunched over so he just wrote “maybe if I walk like this it’ll confuse them.” That’s toooooo funny
Dang you could totally make a team up for these guys when Bruce is away saving the world, most of them have similar styles and abilities but also cover their bases quite well, could definitely use some extra padding and maybe a strong headliner but there’s totally a workable team here
There was one comic in which Buce made everyone think hes dead and the crime rate in gotham drasticly jumped but Batman adversaries like Bane Poison Ivy heck even Penguin fought with criminals cuz bat family was overwhelmed
This video actually inspired me to get into the creeper ive only ever seen jack ryder before in the arkham games but the creeper just seems so interesting i need to read his comics😭
I really enjoyed this video You don’t upload as often as I’d like you to but bloody hell whenever you do you always deliver the goods👍 You certainly introduced me to some runs and stories I’ve gotta check out. And most if not all of the characters where Jewish heroes to boot! I didn’t expect that. But that’s a nice surprise. All interesting recommendations Way to go mate🤙
Thank you g, I’m trying to upload more often and comments like yours really motivate me to. Loved your Hitman dub and can’t wait to see more from both of our channels!
31:29 I was wondering if you would bring him up. But yeah, all these guys seem like cool characters. I should check out their series sometime if I find some copies.
honestly, geo populus being the villain of the batman part 2 and having simon dark result from that would be so cool. imagine pattinsons batman trying to unravel these disturbing murder cases of multiple teens, just to find simon. he could even take him in (perhaps as a version of robin?) jkjkidk i might’ve just cooked rq 😭 who knows tho
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When it comes to heroes of Gotham, being a fan of Bluebird is suffering. So many times she’s just left out of BatFamily discussions and official art.
Idk much about her granted but from what ive heard it hasnt been good not to trash on a character you like but feel free to enlighten me
@@hoodie_boi-fn5xvI mean she only exists because of the n52 mandate of not being allowed to use Stephanie brown
If they give us a Bluebird solo, Punchline should be her arch-enemy for that run.
@@abiodunsulaiman2297 ive only ever seen her in one book and i think all she did was get mad and punch somebody so yea i dont really know anything about her
@abiodunsulaiman2297 wait, how come they can't use Stephanie brown?
Hop off creeper's fit he does have that shit on
What did you just say? Are you having a stroke or just don't speak english?
FAX
Ong
Batman: “I work alone.”
All 200+ of his companions: “You are just incorrigible.”
The greatest other hero of gotham is Man
SHUT
@@brianwalsh1339never you pile of asphalt
This dude spits facts
Its spelled MANN
Ok.
Azrael standing in the corner crying
Eh. He was probably excluded cause he is technically part of the bat family even if he isn't really around that often. He still does have a bat themed suit after all
Azzy was the OG red hood
Should have broke the bat like Bane lol
@@farid3454likey
Meh he's there.
Ragman sounds rad, gonna give the miniseries a read
He sounds bad
Radman.
He is pretty good..
He was in the arrow series for a little bit
@@kwayneboy1524he sounds rag
I love the idea of these big name cities having lesser known or unknown heroes looking after sections of them. I wonder who, if any, are in places like Metropolis, Keystone City, etc.
Metropolis has Black Lightning.
Keystone City I believe has Hawk and Dove.
Who protects Albuquerque?
@@benkersten1705Walter white
@@netapel2625 Metropolis also has Guardian and Vigilante.
If you’re curious about Keystone, I know a little about Argus. He has super strength and can merge into any shadow.
Batman when he sees someone getting rid of his clown boy friend:
Idea, we all hear about what wouldve happened with no batman, city destoyed big woop, but if there was a book about all these characters collaborating as a sort of gotham league with no batman or batman sidekicks in sight and they have to defend againt brainiac or something big like that
Cool I'd like to see that
That should indeed be the interesting part behind someone like Batman appearing, but tends to never be the focus.
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It's a shame that we didn't get a version of a Gotham Knights game featuring or at least included these characters. It could have really set it apart from the Arkham series while painting Gotham itself as a very colorful place that exists outside of just Batman's influence and show how much work it takes to protect the city.
Yes Cool And Good Idea
Martian Manhunter is based in Gotham just saying... that is litterally a Superman level hero. Gotham is def safe.
He doesn't have a city, he just protects the entire earth, he's like Wonder Woman where she also doesn't have a main city but mainly operates in America. Martian Manhunter being in Gotham is mainly in adaptions, in comics his first appearance was in Colorado.
Till he has to tackle Firefly or any nicotine addicted punk with a lighter
@@grinshady0164 if you give a random Punk Kryptonite does Superman automatically lose? When Superman fights Metallo does he just lose because the core is Kryptonite? No! Because that's not how weaknesses work. Shut up and grow a brain
@@kaine8911 yes the original was Colorado but that means nothing since almost everything after it has had him coming from Gotham and even choosing his Detective Persona because of that landing.
@@TheMonkePrince no, but a debilitating fear of fire is
Thx, for mentioning hitman and the creeper, also ragman
Metropolis next, if they even have other non "super" heroes
Metropolis gotta be the safest and most dangerous place to live because there's superman and other superman like heroes but also superman threat villains
its the Lex vs Steel show, if we remove every super
There's Gangbuster, Thorn, Guardian and Booster Gold operates there too I believe.
Besides what's been mentioned, there's Edge. Yes, his name is Edge, yes his superpower is being covered in edges, yes he wears leather. Then New Bloods were shamelessly edgy like that (pun intended), but Edge himself is relatively wholesome, though he didn't really doo too much.
Without batman, there would be a dramatic reduction in clown related crimes
You think the Joker inadvertently lead to more random beatings of clowns in Gotham’s subways?
@@benkersten1705 defiantly and I can't blame them.
Naw joker has always amped shit up if batman ever leaves trying to do his best to get batmans attention to come back
Missing out Onyx is disappointing. She needs more love and she's one of three non Batfamily vigilantes who is actually sanctioned by Batman to operate in Gotham.
Who are the other two?
Well one of the others was onboarded at around the same time as Onyx and was a literal supervillain who forced herself in the no-no way on Nightwing as far as I remember, so I'm not sure how good an point that one is
The reply above refers to Tarantula, I believe- who wound up leaving for Blüdhaven anyway. The third is the aforementioned Mother Panic.
Everything aside, I think that Ragman story was easily the best of these in terms of actual integration. You not only have a sensible villain that isn't some weird overpowered secret society that Bruce somehow NEVER detected. But you also seem to have him actually being on the trail, just a bit late as he's not directly involved as Ragman is. I kinda get that they can't do that type of meetup with every vigilante who gets their own series, and it would probably undermine it alot. But it really just always calls into question why the hell he's not anywhere near these conflicts considering all of his resources.
He does with in the shadows. Maybe he watches but doesn’t intervene to see how they handle themselves and if they’d be a possible ally or just a protector in his absence. Gotham is a big city after all
I think Hitman is the best example because it really shows a different side to Gotham despite constantly crossing over
rip tommy monigan bloody legend
It seems that bats can't let go of old habits
Always keeping a monopoly
Before Batman we had Green Lantern (Allan Scott) and Captain Midnight patrolling Gotham.
Do you mean Doctor Mid-night . The hero with the Owl 🦉 pet?
@@the_king__of_the_world yes
Honestly all of these gotham centric heroes could easily form a new iteration of tye outsiders insead of a seperate team their a network of gotham based heroes think the shadow's network of agents helping him with intel, surveilance transport etc. Some of them even teaming up with members of the batfamily on ocassion. As for the numerous undisclosed secret sociwties controlling gotham my take is the the court of owl either infiltrates said organizations or allows then to exist in order to keep the bat distracted from their activities.
Don't leave out plastic man Eel O'Brian the GOAT, like ragman he aint always there but he always starts there
plas is TERRIFYING.
apparently Batman's contingency for him going bad is "pray it doesn't happen."
I like Whistler. I imagine Gotham dogs are probably as tough as the humans of the city. There could have been some very interesting storylines involving dog-afflicting diseases; mad scientist experimentation; actual werewolves; demonic crossbreeds from all the hellhounds summoned by insane cults; and run-ins with packs of hyenas that have formed from The Joker and Harley losing their pets (Bud and Lou) every time they get dragged back to Arkham. She could've been DC's Squirrel Girl with the right writer.
Simon Dark doesn't get enough love. I've had so many disappointments over people not having even heard of him that I went into this video expecting you to list everyone but him.
0:21 You Speaketh utter truth. But the Tim Disrespect be crazy.
0:21 the Tim slander is crazy
Is he wrong tho?
@@laran1708 yes, Tim had entire Robin series and his og Red Robin is peak, only to be downplayed into small roles now. Dude has fans.
@@laran1708absolutely
Not a single lie was told therefore not slander.
Why people hating on ma boi Tim the Goat
SIMON DAAAAARK FUCK YES IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THE LONGEST TIME SEE HIM MENTIONED IN ANYTHING AGAIN🗣🔥🗣🔥🗣🔥🗣🔥🗣🔥🗣🔥
Batcow solos.
This comment solos the whole comment section.
Real
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i saw hitman and clicked. such an underrated hero
The creepers origin of falling into ace chemicals makes more sense than the original origin
A lot less interesting tho
Duke Thomas (The Signal) is one of my favorite members of the bat family. I think he under utilized and relatively unknown. I hate how many comedy sketches have Alfred fight for baman during the day even after we have this perfectly good character in need of more development.
Ragman reminds me a lot of Moon Knight. Just missing the DID
Tommy Monaghan as a vigilante. Sean would be laughing his arse off.
Sideways though shortlived was based in Gotham
He Was?
@@thesmilyguyguy9799ye
@@thesmilyguyguy9799 Yep
@@patriciomendoza19 hm Ok
@@thesmilyguyguy9799 he got his powers during Dark Knight Metal event that introduced the Batman Who Laughs
I didn't know about Whistle, but I really like the idea of a hero with a janky power, not too much in the way of resources and problems in their personal life. This is a person who has to get really creative to save the day and since they're not in a position to deal with a world shattering threat, it gives the creative team more time to go into into character development stuff.
On one hand very good video, on the other hand I'm not a TIm Drake Fanboy but I feel bad for Tim with that Tim Drake Slander lmao
Same
The creeper is really cool i hope he makes some kind of modern resurgence sithout modernizing his design too much, he looks awesome
Ragman's story is extremely interesting.
Ngl, I could feasibly see Ragman and whistle team up to take on whoever in gotham. Ragman is the powerhouse, Whistle is the brain and tenatious mascot that can bring him back from the brink. A less balanced duo than batman and robin, but with the possibility for just as much depth. You could even make the balance grow over time by expanding her powerset; maybe whistle can gain a stricter control over animals over time, something like skitter/Taylor Herbert from Worm.
Another idea for expansion is that she can soul bond with a certain amount of animals over time. A dog gave her control over dogs, but then maybe she does so w/ a pigeon and gets the powers of gliding, or speed (but like her arms have to be tucked or smth quirky), or a squirrel and etc
Now I need an alt universe comic where Batman dies before he's able to create the Bat Family, and so instead the city needs to be cleaned up by all the Gothamite rejects teaming up instead.
Yes Yes Yes YES
If I had the power, I would put all these heroes together and make a team. I would make a story about how they have to solve a murder mystery, the murder of Batman.
Yes That A Good Story Idea
16:37 "DC's Venom"
DCs spawn 🥰
Mother Panic looks epic.
She's basically Batwoman, but without all the forced ironic wokeness....
@@ellugerdelacruz2555shut up
Her design has some kind of tokusatsu vibe that i like
Dude you are fucking killing it. Loved the Earth-2 video, and I’m loving this one! Excellent work!
Won’t lie, I love how The Creeper’s insanity is expanded upon in future DC comics! Even the New Batman Animated Series adds this change by letting some of the Joker Chemicals Change him!
These changes make him far more interesting!
Awesome use of Sonic Unleashed: Chun-nan Dragon Road - Night track. Couldn't get it out of my mind.
banger soundtrack
This was awesome. Thank you for helping me appreciate these characters, I never even noticed Ragman is cool af
Now I want to write a story where they are all together as a team.
Yes I WANT THIS
THE CREEPER! He's the hero Gotham deserves, but not the one it needs right now....or even wants!
I mean, Jason Blood actually lives in Gotham. Presumably any supervillain that attacks the City without the Batfamily there is gonna get an Etrigan to the face in short order. . .
Alan Scott Green Lantern is from Gotham, and so is the Jim Corrigan Spectre. :D
That’s so funny. I never knew ditko would draw the comic and the. The writers would fill in the story from the pics. Watching your video, I noticed a panel where the creeper is going “maybe if I walk like this it’ll confuse them,” and that totally reads as the writer not knowing what to do with the creeper all hunched over so he just wrote “maybe if I walk like this it’ll confuse them.”
That’s toooooo funny
Dang you could totally make a team up for these guys when Bruce is away saving the world, most of them have similar styles and abilities but also cover their bases quite well, could definitely use some extra padding and maybe a strong headliner but there’s totally a workable team here
I think Panic makes for a decent enough headliner, which fits since she's the one most similar to Batman out of all of them.
This video is amazing! My friend I love this idea for a video easily digestible and funny but also very informative
I really want the Creeper to get more love. He basically has Joker's chaotic demeanor, but as a hero instead of a villain.
The moment I hear Simon Dark has a pet cat I'm gonna enjoy the comic very much
edit: sad
1:19 That's what No Man's Land was all about. It could have been worse.
the creeper will be the PERFECT addition to phonix jokerversse
Angel Devilinski sounds like a name Hideo Kojima would come up with
Well, Angel is just a nickname but yeah that name is totally Hideo Kojima made
There was one comic in which Buce made everyone think hes dead and the crime rate in gotham drasticly jumped but Batman adversaries like Bane Poison Ivy heck even Penguin fought with criminals cuz bat family was overwhelmed
There's also all the recent ones introduced in Red Hood The Hill series
great job man on this great video on gotham heroes
All that was needed to be said was " Owning them Libs." And you just got yourself another subscriber my good man 👏🤝
hes being ironic
Anarchy should be on the list.
THE CREEPER MENTION WOOOOO
I havent read any DC for the most part but dang mother panic sounds cool, im gonna try to hunt down that trade !
This video actually inspired me to get into the creeper ive only ever seen jack ryder before in the arkham games but the creeper just seems so interesting i need to read his comics😭
honestly i love your videos, the most fun dc content lately
I really enjoyed this video
You don’t upload as often as I’d like you to but bloody hell whenever you do you always deliver the goods👍
You certainly introduced me to some runs and stories I’ve gotta check out.
And most if not all of the characters where Jewish heroes to boot! I didn’t expect that. But that’s a nice surprise.
All interesting recommendations
Way to go mate🤙
Thank you g, I’m trying to upload more often and comments like yours really motivate me to. Loved your Hitman dub and can’t wait to see more from both of our channels!
I'm glad you brought up Alan Scott. A lot of people forgot he was localized in Gotham for a while
Really happy someone else remembers Mother Panic
Need a series where all of them team up. Especially Tommy
Tommy is dead
@@paulakroy2635 people in comics rarely stay dead for too long
So glad to hear about simon dark. I loved the comic when i was younger
If rag man like venom then the creeper like venom too when you think about it
OH MY GOD RAGMAN MENTION LFGGGGGG i
Never knew about the creeper, but he actually seems really cool.
If you don't already have one (about to do a search) a video like this for the other heroes of Metropolis would be amazing.
HOLY SHIT MOTHER PANIC!!
It's so awesome to see someone talk about this character
Fuck yeah finally some Simon dark love!
How the fuck does Gotham still have crime? You got 200+ vigilantes running around.
It's a big city 🤷🤷 they can't be everywhere.
As annoying as he’s portrayed, Jack Ryder seems to be a decent person
Blanka = The Creeper
Great video man 🔥
Also shoutout to Calvin Rose aka Talon
The Creeper is the best DC character.
Awesome video dude I just discovered so many new characters ! Btw while you do any Metropolis others heroes ?
OMG mother panics mask looks like deaths head no wonder it looks so familiar
Wildcat missing is WILD
Nah Tim would be the best replacement for Batman imo.
absolutely!
Yes
Doesn't he go nuts in the majority universes where he is Batman?
The creeper is as lot like moon knight
Elaborate?
@@Fanimati0n I don't even remember why I even wrote this to be honest with you
The signal. I’ll have to look into this. Love the costume design m.
There was a project of a Creeper cartoon, but it became Freakazoid instead.
SIMON DARKKKK
Ragman and Mother Panic sound like really cool characters to me, I'm gonna have to give their stories a read! :)
Yes
Mother panic is very good
Awesome video! Would love a version for metropolis
Ragman and Simon Dark are my favourites. Alas, Simon is forgotten and Ragman is rarely used.
31:29 I was wondering if you would bring him up.
But yeah, all these guys seem like cool characters. I should check out their series sometime if I find some copies.
I don’t trust the silly hat tribe
I can't believe you click-baited me with Hitman. >:(
He Has A Hull Vid ON Hitman
This would make a really good serious if you did other cities in the DC universe
honestly, geo populus being the villain of the batman part 2 and having simon dark result from that would be so cool. imagine pattinsons batman trying to unravel these disturbing murder cases of multiple teens, just to find simon. he could even take him in (perhaps as a version of robin?) jkjkidk i might’ve just cooked rq 😭 who knows tho
Not A Bad Idea And Simon Dark Fits The Vibe Of THE BATMAN