yeah but he doesn't speak about production, he is talking about mixing and people usually bring trash for you to make it sound better. So these advice are really legit. Layering helps to fix bad sound selection for sure.
@@SoundPeaks ... But that's not the mixing portion, that's a production tip. Sure, it helps if you completely produce a new track out of one that's sent to you - but that's not fundamentally your job as a mixer.
Yeah 100% if you can do it without layering you should. At the point where you are layering your client's drums you might as well change them outright.
You’re one of the creators that most consistently provides value, you could make a video about anything and I know I’ll find something super awesome. Thanks so much you rocking it!
I'd like to add that a lot of this depends on the vibe of the track as well. If you're making heavy dubstep, it's essential to have these harsh transients. If have a super mellow track, you're probably fine with rounder transients.
That is a good tip also for synths i rather layer than distort or compress them , cause u make sound bigger rather than overcompressed and u also get nice texture with it if u do it the right way.
I think that the the first mix of the song exa,pl e in the beginning to sound better. Maybe slightly unfinished but much more intresting sound. I guess it's more dynamic. Sounds more confident and not over-processed. Sub is more pleasant too. Anyone else?
while nice I do prefer to respect production aspects sent and add parallel with all of what you suggested , not every artist and or producer wants their sound to be changed like that
Hi and thank you. I'd like to share something too. I'm a new musician and I didn't know much about stereo until I tried MStereoProcessor.Now I use it everywhere. As it turns out, you don't necessarily need to use masking when playing with stereo and mono. But maybe I'm wrong:)
Thanks for the info really helpfull, question here: How do you manage phase issues in those cases , cause a hear a little bit bit of it on the examples !
Looks like two similar mono samples panned L/R with one delayed by the ms value as shown. Essentially haas effect. Keep it below ~40ms or the sounds begin to be perceived as two separate sounds instead of one wide sound.
@@BFHPET oscilloscope and something like Ableton align delay to shift by sample would be my approach to line up the cycles in the waveforms. You could also try shifting by hand a minute amount to line it up but yes takes a bit of trial and error.
I notice you don't really use Macros in Logic Which would allow you to automate multiple parameters to one or two Macros to a knob by pressing B to bring up the control panel. I was in Logic for 6 years before switching to Ableton 11 in time for the free update to 12 but 12 is so powerful. If you're going to be doing midi tracks a lot Live is just better made to do it. I still use Logic for some things but Live is just better made for electronic music genres.
I also don't understand layering and then saying the transients pop more when your snare and hihat are now level with your kick. Your kick is supposed to be the loudest element, everything else moves in the spaces between kicks in tracks like this. If you make your hihat this loud that is going to ruin your ability to drive the limiter in the mastering change without pumping.
Correct. Try 7.1 dbu to the side chain with the limiter set on “flab” while pushing the 5khz band to the compressor to 2.6dbu with the octave resonance set to “normal.” This will give the kick room while also giving the hi hat room.
Can barely hear the kick and snare in the ‘after’ as well The ‘before’ has a lovely character to the clap. Sure the drums are a bit pokey and the mix lacked width, but loved the character of those drums
Because it sounds way better when listening at home, in the car, etc. and as long as you have a good mono base to your sound, it will still sound pretty good!
Not gonna lie, the first after mix demo has lost all punch from the kick and everything is FAR too wide. The fact that 75% of people listen to music on phones or crappy earbuds isn't going to make a difference adding more wideness to mixes when the more intimate closer sound of the original sounded pretty good overall just needed some EQ and compression and that's it.
Bottom line - choose good sounds from the beginning!
thank u
yeah but he doesn't speak about production, he is talking about mixing and people usually bring trash for you to make it sound better. So these advice are really legit. Layering helps to fix bad sound selection for sure.
Funny you said that because the next video is “picking the best sounds from the beginning.” I mean, who would even think to do that?!
@@SoundPeaks ... But that's not the mixing portion, that's a production tip. Sure, it helps if you completely produce a new track out of one that's sent to you - but that's not fundamentally your job as a mixer.
100% the best advice for elevate production and mixing is good sound selection for instruments and samples
This is basically the crux of what parallel compression is supposed to do but this adds way more room for creativity. Love it!
Dude. Your techniques are so freaking good man. They've helped out my mixes a ton. Especially that soothe one.
im 50/50 on this.. sometimes layering percussive samples like hats and snares with more of the same kinda samples give a weird phased out sound.
Yeah 100% if you can do it without layering you should. At the point where you are layering your client's drums you might as well change them outright.
You can try phase flipping them or giving them a delay of a few milliseconds, voxengo latency delay and melda mUtility can both do this
Bruh all songs featured unreleased!? We need dat. Nice job. Wanted to add that first track to my workout playlist 😭
You’re one of the creators that most consistently provides value, you could make a video about anything and I know I’ll find something super awesome. Thanks so much you rocking it!
Seriously. How about you start telling us how to win the stock market next lol😂
Thanks for watching, I appreciate it!
Snapback plugin would be great for this and much faster to execute because you can drag and drop your own samples into it and add a layer.
It came at the right time!
That plugin is so good.
This plugin is actually worthy of the label 'game changer' for how fast and easy it is to mess with pre- and post-hit transients.
I'd like to add that a lot of this depends on the vibe of the track as well. If you're making heavy dubstep, it's essential to have these harsh transients. If have a super mellow track, you're probably fine with rounder transients.
That is a good tip also for synths i rather layer than distort or compress them , cause u make sound bigger rather than overcompressed and u also get nice texture with it if u do it the right way.
5:11 These visual representations are so helpful. Thank you.
Loving the pro drum samples pack dude. Excellent work - thank you!
Thank you for sharing! I could hear the difference instantly 🤯
Need that Que Que song :D sounded sooo good wide
Brilliant! Thank you.
YOU MIXES SOUND SO GOOD
He did say 2921 🤷
You're a legend Big Z, thanks for all these valuable lessons
The best advice for elevating production and mixing is to choose good sounds for instruments and samples
Big Z you're amazing
Excellent! Great explanation also. Good luck to you!
Mate, just use snapback from cable guys for punchy drums. Don't need to spend so much time for layering etc.
How you tried snapback?
Great Tips! Thank you
I think that the the first mix of the song exa,pl e in the beginning to sound better. Maybe slightly unfinished but much more intresting sound. I guess it's more dynamic. Sounds more confident and not over-processed. Sub is more pleasant too. Anyone else?
while nice I do prefer to respect production aspects sent and add parallel with all of what you suggested , not every artist and or producer wants their sound to be changed like that
Simple details does a lot
Refreshing content once again! Thank you!
So true drum layering is the way to go🙌🏽
you are the GOAT!
God Level Techniques Bro ❤️🔥🫨
5:25 you can hear it/see it clicking/popping, I thinks its from the drums clashing with the hi hats
Definitely! But in the context of the mix you can't really tell
Layering is the key!
Hi and thank you. I'd like to share something too. I'm a new musician and I didn't know much about stereo until I tried MStereoProcessor.Now I use it everywhere. As it turns out, you don't necessarily need to use masking when playing with stereo and mono. But maybe I'm wrong:)
This is gold
can you do a sample pack where you have done these layering techniques ? so the drums ready ? I would buy that
Thanks for the info really helpfull, question here: How do you manage phase issues in those cases , cause a hear a little bit bit of it on the examples !
🥱 seen it a million times
This is the old way of doing things
Nice!!! Also be sure to correct timing/phase when layering! Thx!
pre sounds better. second sounds like a brickwall and muddy
I love how professionals have to work with worst kind of music - rap, etc. :D
Thank you for the great videos as always. Could you tell us what oscilloscope are you using?
I was hoping somebody had asked this and there was an answer.
This is from Shaperbox 3 I guess guys 😉
Those were 'drums'??
Insane!
It’s not insane. Good grief
3000 tracks
Can somebody please tell me what is the name of that oscilloscope plugin from the video? Thanks 🙏
I think it might just be the visualiser in Shaperbox.
Can you do an video of you making an remake of sunday scaries „dont you cry“?
The after sample looks to be clipped to make it sound better
how is these wide drums made in your sample pack just whit reverb or stereo wider plugins?
Looks like two similar mono samples panned L/R with one delayed by the ms value as shown. Essentially haas effect. Keep it below ~40ms or the sounds begin to be perceived as two separate sounds instead of one wide sound.
@@ffenyer0c when i use the hass effect it sound like it getting phased and weak
@@BFHPET oscilloscope and something like Ableton align delay to shift by sample would be my approach to line up the cycles in the waveforms. You could also try shifting by hand a minute amount to line it up but yes takes a bit of trial and error.
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If you want strong drums... Make the weak drums stronger 😂 simple.
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@@aaronbazil lol
I notice you don't really use Macros in Logic Which would allow you to automate multiple parameters to one or two Macros to a knob by pressing B to bring up the control panel. I was in Logic for 6 years before switching to Ableton 11 in time for the free update to 12 but 12 is so powerful. If you're going to be doing midi tracks a lot Live is just better made to do it. I still use Logic for some things but Live is just better made for electronic music genres.
I liked the "before" mix better. "After" is too crispy, brittle.
Crisphanson
100%
I also don't understand layering and then saying the transients pop more when your snare and hihat are now level with your kick. Your kick is supposed to be the loudest element, everything else moves in the spaces between kicks in tracks like this. If you make your hihat this loud that is going to ruin your ability to drive the limiter in the mastering change without pumping.
Correct. Try 7.1 dbu to the side chain with the limiter set on “flab” while pushing the 5khz band to the compressor to 2.6dbu with the octave resonance set to “normal.” This will give the kick room while also giving the hi hat room.
Can barely hear the kick and snare in the ‘after’ as well
The ‘before’ has a lovely character to the clap. Sure the drums are a bit pokey and the mix lacked width, but loved the character of those drums
too lazy to layer, bought your samples ;)
IDK why someone would want to make mixes wider when everybody are making them narrower on purpose to make them sound more "old school"\vintage
Because it sounds way better when listening at home, in the car, etc. and as long as you have a good mono base to your sound, it will still sound pretty good!
Snapback by cable guys. Thank me later
Not gonna lie, the first after mix demo has lost all punch from the kick and everything is FAR too wide. The fact that 75% of people listen to music on phones or crappy earbuds isn't going to make a difference adding more wideness to mixes when the more intimate closer sound of the original sounded pretty good overall just needed some EQ and compression and that's it.
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bro u lost a lot of weight. Hope you are ok. god bless you
Lookin healthy to me!
Yes he did and it's a good thing. He looks healthy AF. Must be gymbro'ing.
Please remove that hiss from your recorded voice