It's more about precision and finding proper leverage to get the best sound without flexing too hard. There are materials that require more energy and firmer support, so once the sound in this tutorial is easy, you can try them out to make your fry bigger :)
THis is perfect! THis is PERFECT! Although I may not be able to fry scream as advance as you do in this tutorial I at least know where to start. Thank you!
If you enjoyed my video titled "How To Fry Scream For Beginners," please remember to like the video and subscribe to my channel. Share this knowledge with your friends as well, thanks!
Thank you for this video. It's reassuring to see further advocacy of this approach as this is roughly the way I first tried to learn to do this. There are some videos out there that are quite dismissive about this sorts of approach which is a shame. I will be checking out your other videos on how to develop the sound from this foundation.
I get somewhat close to the end scream volume wise, but the fry sounds too "crispy", like it needs some more air flow or something and I'm not quite sure how to do that while keeping the fry. I've been getting closer everyday and and I think muscle memory is helping progress. If there's anything in particular that can help with the air movement I'd appreciate a response :) Great videos!
Thanks! There's a simple advice but I'm not sure if it will be that easy to apply to your scream. It's simply about letting go a bit of tension in the larynx and vocal folds which will slightly open the airflow, which can make your vocal folds vibrate fast enough to produce a proper fry scream without extra tension. Some of my students imagine that there's a pipe with a floodgate in their throat and it opens up just a bit more. Maybe it will help you as well. Let me know how it worked!
@@sibilaextremevocal So far I'm already noticing a difference! I like to work on my true folds at a slower pace so I'll be incorporating the air over the next few days. You rock!
@@sibilaextremevocal I think I just got it for a brief moment before my voice cracked... it's definitely louder than before and now I'm scared of neighbors 😭😂
The maximum volume I can reach is something like you do here 4:04. That feels easy but I can't find a way to make it louder. Should I just keep practicing or something else is the issue? :) And I know it's very individual, but could you estimate in how long it could become louder with regular practice (in 1 month, 2 months etc ...) Thanks so much, you're one of the best for learning fry scream! 🤘🔥
It's a bit like growing muscles. You can test your limits and check how loud you can get every couple of weeks of practice (in a healthy way, which means that you don't feel any pain, discomfort and your voice feels ok after the practice). Here are some exercises that can help you to improve the projection and resonance of your fry scream, which technically can result in a higher level of volume but without any extra pressure or constrictions: th-cam.com/video/DCipEGhFCvI/w-d-xo.html Let me know how they worked :)
Hello, thank you! I am not sure if I get it right but the breat support is a very important part of this exercise. The closer you get to the fry, the more core muscles will engage. In the mouth you can feel the vibrations, especially in the area of the back of the tongue and soft palate. The sound doesn't need to be very strong. It can grow gradually, just like muscles at the gym.
Kurt Cobain sometimes used some kind of fry scream and fry distortion, but created in an extremely forceful way, but his main raspy style was closer to singing with distortion engaging false vocal folds, a bit of twang and nasality. Practicing vocal distortion or kargyraa throat singing will be helpful. You can find videos on those topics on this channel. There are kargyraa and singing with distortion playlists.
I started screaming using false chord screams. I really struggle to hit vocal fry in general since learning how to false chord scream, especially when trying to go from a falsetto to vocal fry. Any general advice? I'll practice the granny voice daily now
Usually when people that can do a decent false chord and they struggle with the fry scream, especially with exercises using the vocal fry, it's because they push too hard and blow too much air through the larynx but I don't know if it relates to your practice because I can't hear your voice :D My email is xvocalcenter@gmail.com Exercises with the vocal fry are usually light and compared to the false chord, almost effortless. For me the best way to finally nail the fry scream was practicing with the distortion, kargyraa and vocal break. There are materials on that topic on the channel. Check out the playlist "Fry Scream".
Is there a difference in how to apply compression between this technique and a false cord scream? I have no problems getting the "granny-fry" going, but as soon as I try to turn it over to a scream by adding compression, I loose my true cords and it all flips over to a high-ish mid range false cord sound.
Here are materials with more details about the compression used for the fry scream: th-cam.com/video/6eUV205aQic/w-d-xo.html&pp=ygUSZnJ5IHNjcmVhbSAzIHN0ZXBz th-cam.com/video/DJXWG44yH_k/w-d-xo.html&pp=ygUQZnJ5IHNjcmVhbSB2b21pdA%3D%3D Here's a material about the compression used for getting rid of the breathiness from the false chord: th-cam.com/video/uXLb0M916NY/w-d-xo.html Here's the material about the high pitched false chord: th-cam.com/video/ec5mh1K6UAg/w-d-xo.html Compression for both techniques narrows the glottis but in case of the fry scream, also vocal folds are way more active and connected than in case of the false chord.
Usually it's caused by extra tension of the vocal folds. If the same thing happens while screaming, you can lose the distortion and get a clean, tight voice instead of the scream as well.
@@sibilaextremevocal I'm a bass and I haven't figured out how to make a sound even remotely high pitched without tensing up. It automatically happens the instant I go above a certain point.
I had the same issue years ago. What helped me the most was fooling around with high pitched noises, for example cartoon-like shouts "woo-hoo, yay" etc., making owl sounds ("hoo-hoo"), making a parody of Axel Rose, making noises like puppies or crying babies. Firstly, I unlocked my falsetto and after that I worked on the head voice. I'm not a bass but on a good day I can sing down to C2 without using the vocal fry.
It's good to practice with the syllables or vowels at first, and then practice with the words - you can even put words into syllables and practice that way, gradully increasing the level of difficulty.
3 am might be not the best idea to practice because your body is probably in "rest mode", even if you are "an owl". I experienced it when I was working on night shifts - my voice was much weaker and throat was getting irritated much faster, even after a warm up. I worked that way for a couple of years and my body didn't adapt to it but my maybe that's just my case. When it comes to this specific exercise, it shouldn't cause any discomfort because the sounds are pretty gentle, even when you perform a basic fry scream. They should feel compressed (narrow) but at the same time rather light and free from too intense tension and effort in the area of voice box, neck and jaw. The effort is more intense in the abdominal area but it also doesn't feel like a 100% intensity (usually it something between 30-70%, depending on the strength etc. of each of the person).
@@sibilaextremevocal i hear that. it makes sense. thank you so much for your response! i still can’t really get my head around fry screams, but i’ll keep practising. i’ve found for me that false chords are easier to do lol.
When I try to do the beginning practice exercise at 3:35, I actually LOSE the vocal fry distortion as I try to extend it, and my vocal tone CLEANS up. I actually sound more like Waluigi than a Grandma. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong or how to fix it to start to get some of the harsher distortion. I don't know if I'm letting my true vocal chords activate by accident, or if I'm lacking support somehow? When I try to drive into that harsher sound, my voice just cleans up and kicks into clearer pitch and that Waluigi sound, haha.
Fry scream or vocal fry usually disappear when vocal folds are getting too tight. If you have a recording of your practice, send it to me on email. xvocalcenter@gmail.com
Jak wysoko jesteś w stanie zaśpiewać pełnym, czystym głosem? Ja aktualnie nie daję rady wyżej niż d4 co jest mocnym ograniczeniem, może nagrasz co do tego poradnik?
Mogę zaśpiewać do G#4, ale gdybym ćwiczył częściej, dałoby się to na luzie poszerzyć, natomiast moje ćwiczenia skupiają się głównie na screamie. Mam materiał na temat rozwijania skali głosu i kilka ćwiczeń w kursie online, który wypuściłem kilka miesięcy temu :) sibilaextremevocal.com.pl/kurs-online/
Been trying to learn how to fry scream for a month or two and after watching this video i could just do it, the granny thing really helped. Been screaming around my house all morning lmao
You can start to imitate the creak of old doors too... haha
I want to learn to scream .. thank you for teaching us how ...
great explanation and technique! very helpful - thank you! 🤘
up and then forward is the greatest advice I have heard and felt from this, thank you
For some people at first it seems very abstract but once they get it, it really helps. I'm glad it was useful!
It's the opposite of trying very hard.... 🤣 Love it! Thanks for the tutorial!
It's more about precision and finding proper leverage to get the best sound without flexing too hard.
There are materials that require more energy and firmer support, so once the sound in this tutorial is easy, you can try them out to make your fry bigger :)
THis is perfect! THis is PERFECT! Although I may not be able to fry scream as advance as you do in this tutorial I at least know where to start. Thank you!
If you enjoyed my video titled "How To Fry Scream For Beginners," please remember to like the video and subscribe to my channel. Share this knowledge with your friends as well, thanks!
3:34 I feel like a printer 😂
If you are able to print a nice fry scream, then it's nothing bad, I guess :D
I love hearing it go from granny to fry 😂 fuckin Granny core 🤘🏻
Thank you for this video. It's reassuring to see further advocacy of this approach as this is roughly the way I first tried to learn to do this. There are some videos out there that are quite dismissive about this sorts of approach which is a shame. I will be checking out your other videos on how to develop the sound from this foundation.
Awesome, in case of any questions, feel free to write anytime! :)
This was the most helpfull video i have seen
Thank u very much
Do a video on playing and singing at the same time
If I could play anything more than vocal exercoses on the piano, I would love do record a one :D
Thank you for posting this. I can finally fry scream.
Awesome, I am very happy to read that!
Great video !
I get somewhat close to the end scream volume wise, but the fry sounds too "crispy", like it needs some more air flow or something and I'm not quite sure how to do that while keeping the fry. I've been getting closer everyday and and I think muscle memory is helping progress. If there's anything in particular that can help with the air movement I'd appreciate a response :) Great videos!
Thanks! There's a simple advice but I'm not sure if it will be that easy to apply to your scream. It's simply about letting go a bit of tension in the larynx and vocal folds which will slightly open the airflow, which can make your vocal folds vibrate fast enough to produce a proper fry scream without extra tension.
Some of my students imagine that there's a pipe with a floodgate in their throat and it opens up just a bit more. Maybe it will help you as well.
Let me know how it worked!
@@sibilaextremevocal So far I'm already noticing a difference! I like to work on my true folds at a slower pace so I'll be incorporating the air over the next few days. You rock!
@@sibilaextremevocal I think I just got it for a brief moment before my voice cracked... it's definitely louder than before and now I'm scared of neighbors 😭😂
The maximum volume I can reach is something like you do here 4:04. That feels easy but I can't find a way to make it louder. Should I just keep practicing or something else is the issue? :) And I know it's very individual, but could you estimate in how long it could become louder with regular practice (in 1 month, 2 months etc ...) Thanks so much, you're one of the best for learning fry scream! 🤘🔥
It's a bit like growing muscles. You can test your limits and check how loud you can get every couple of weeks of practice (in a healthy way, which means that you don't feel any pain, discomfort and your voice feels ok after the practice).
Here are some exercises that can help you to improve the projection and resonance of your fry scream, which technically can result in a higher level of volume but without any extra pressure or constrictions:
th-cam.com/video/DCipEGhFCvI/w-d-xo.html
Let me know how they worked :)
@@sibilaextremevocal Sounds good, I will try this! Let's see if there's some improvement over the next month :) Thanks so much 🤘
@@sibilaextremevocal I'm stuck at the same point as @JelenaDobricPersona right now, gonna go check the exercises in the link you posted. Thanks dude!
Awesome, let me know how it worked :)
Good job brother
Just I wanna say this sound is strong or not strang
With dyfragm temperature or just in mouth ??
Thankyou ...
Hello, thank you!
I am not sure if I get it right but the breat support is a very important part of this exercise. The closer you get to the fry, the more core muscles will engage. In the mouth you can feel the vibrations, especially in the area of the back of the tongue and soft palate.
The sound doesn't need to be very strong. It can grow gradually, just like muscles at the gym.
@@sibilaextremevocal thankyou o much bro ...just I want be know it doesn't strong ...Tnx again
will i be able to sing like raspy kurr cobane following this? :3
Kurt Cobain sometimes used some kind of fry scream and fry distortion, but created in an extremely forceful way, but his main raspy style was closer to singing with distortion engaging false vocal folds, a bit of twang and nasality.
Practicing vocal distortion or kargyraa throat singing will be helpful. You can find videos on those topics on this channel. There are kargyraa and singing with distortion playlists.
@@sibilaextremevocal thanks a lot
I started screaming using false chord screams. I really struggle to hit vocal fry in general since learning how to false chord scream, especially when trying to go from a falsetto to vocal fry. Any general advice? I'll practice the granny voice daily now
Usually when people that can do a decent false chord and they struggle with the fry scream, especially with exercises using the vocal fry, it's because they push too hard and blow too much air through the larynx but I don't know if it relates to your practice because I can't hear your voice :D My email is xvocalcenter@gmail.com
Exercises with the vocal fry are usually light and compared to the false chord, almost effortless.
For me the best way to finally nail the fry scream was practicing with the distortion, kargyraa and vocal break. There are materials on that topic on the channel. Check out the playlist "Fry Scream".
Does the false cord activate also when i do this?
Technically, they shouldn't have to
@@sibilaextremevocal by playing with my voice it turns out that i just need to raise my soft palate to get it, thanks sibila
Is there a difference in how to apply compression between this technique and a false cord scream? I have no problems getting the "granny-fry" going, but as soon as I try to turn it over to a scream by adding compression, I loose my true cords and it all flips over to a high-ish mid range false cord sound.
Here are materials with more details about the compression used for the fry scream:
th-cam.com/video/6eUV205aQic/w-d-xo.html&pp=ygUSZnJ5IHNjcmVhbSAzIHN0ZXBz
th-cam.com/video/DJXWG44yH_k/w-d-xo.html&pp=ygUQZnJ5IHNjcmVhbSB2b21pdA%3D%3D
Here's a material about the compression used for getting rid of the breathiness from the false chord:
th-cam.com/video/uXLb0M916NY/w-d-xo.html
Here's the material about the high pitched false chord:
th-cam.com/video/ec5mh1K6UAg/w-d-xo.html
Compression for both techniques narrows the glottis but in case of the fry scream, also vocal folds are way more active and connected than in case of the false chord.
@@sibilaextremevocal Thanks mate! I will check it out and keep trying 😀
If theres one lesson i learned from my grandma, it was how to fry scream
You are lucky! My grandma taught me that I have an extra stomach for pierogi.
@@sibilaextremevocal 😂 relatable
i find it so difficult to make the creaky grandma voice. it comes out smooth instead of creaky
Usually it's caused by extra tension of the vocal folds. If the same thing happens while screaming, you can lose the distortion and get a clean, tight voice instead of the scream as well.
@@sibilaextremevocal I'm a bass and I haven't figured out how to make a sound even remotely high pitched without tensing up. It automatically happens the instant I go above a certain point.
I had the same issue years ago. What helped me the most was fooling around with high pitched noises, for example cartoon-like shouts "woo-hoo, yay" etc., making owl sounds ("hoo-hoo"), making a parody of Axel Rose, making noises like puppies or crying babies. Firstly, I unlocked my falsetto and after that I worked on the head voice.
I'm not a bass but on a good day I can sing down to C2 without using the vocal fry.
I really need practice a lot more, i have no problem with the fry but i can't get it anywhere close to singable loll
It's good to practice with the syllables or vowels at first, and then practice with the words - you can even put words into syllables and practice that way, gradully increasing the level of difficulty.
@@sibilaextremevocal oh yeah true, thanks for the reply! I'll definitely think of that
trying to do this at 3am under my covers rn
should it be itchy or am i doing it wrong lol
3 am might be not the best idea to practice because your body is probably in "rest mode", even if you are "an owl". I experienced it when I was working on night shifts - my voice was much weaker and throat was getting irritated much faster, even after a warm up. I worked that way for a couple of years and my body didn't adapt to it but my maybe that's just my case.
When it comes to this specific exercise, it shouldn't cause any discomfort because the sounds are pretty gentle, even when you perform a basic fry scream.
They should feel compressed (narrow) but at the same time rather light and free from too intense tension and effort in the area of voice box, neck and jaw. The effort is more intense in the abdominal area but it also doesn't feel like a 100% intensity (usually it something between 30-70%, depending on the strength etc. of each of the person).
@@sibilaextremevocal i hear that. it makes sense. thank you so much for your response! i still can’t really get my head around fry screams, but i’ll keep practising. i’ve found for me that false chords are easier to do lol.
When I try to do the beginning practice exercise at 3:35, I actually LOSE the vocal fry distortion as I try to extend it, and my vocal tone CLEANS up. I actually sound more like Waluigi than a Grandma. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong or how to fix it to start to get some of the harsher distortion. I don't know if I'm letting my true vocal chords activate by accident, or if I'm lacking support somehow? When I try to drive into that harsher sound, my voice just cleans up and kicks into clearer pitch and that Waluigi sound, haha.
Fry scream or vocal fry usually disappear when vocal folds are getting too tight. If you have a recording of your practice, send it to me on email. xvocalcenter@gmail.com
Ile za ten kurs? "Pińcet złoty wnusiu" :D
Dla Ciebie wnusiu za darmo, masz tu jeszcze herbatki na gardziołko xd
‘I call this exorcise’ 🤭 Sorry I hope you’re not sensitive about ur accent, I got bullied for mine
I den't knuw whot you write aboot
@@sibilaextremevocal 🥹
Jak wysoko jesteś w stanie zaśpiewać pełnym, czystym głosem? Ja aktualnie nie daję rady wyżej niż d4 co jest mocnym ograniczeniem, może nagrasz co do tego poradnik?
Mogę zaśpiewać do G#4, ale gdybym ćwiczył częściej, dałoby się to na luzie poszerzyć, natomiast moje ćwiczenia skupiają się głównie na screamie. Mam materiał na temat rozwijania skali głosu i kilka ćwiczeń w kursie online, który wypuściłem kilka miesięcy temu :)
sibilaextremevocal.com.pl/kurs-online/
imagine doing this in a public toilet
I practiced gutturals and fry scream a couple of times in public toilets. That was cool!
I just ended up sounding like a rabid cat in heat. That’s good right?!
It depends, if a rabid cat in heat can perform a decent fry :D Feel free to send me a recording on email - xvocalcenter@gmail.com
@@sibilaextremevocal You’re a darling, you know that? 😚
Use headphone guys🥶
That might definitely help to understand the texture of the sound and improve the efficiency of the practice.
Brzmi jak mój trener (nie ty, ten od konia)
Been trying to learn how to fry scream for a month or two and after watching this video i could just do it, the granny thing really helped. Been screaming around my house all morning lmao
Awesome, I'm very glad it helped!
Cat growl -