Late 60s Ludwig 5X14 Supraphonic LM400

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  • @NelsonMontana1234
    @NelsonMontana1234 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    From Roy Haynes, to John Bonham to Joe Morello, to Bill Bruford, to Don Brewer, to Steve Gadd. All unique sounds. All Supraphonics. ( I tried dozens of fancy ass snares including a custom built and just went back to the Supraphonic. It just works. I think in your vid the medium high tuning was best, but they all sounded good.

    • @NickCostaMusic
      @NickCostaMusic  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly - cross genre, different type of hitters, and it still just works! That medium high was mentioned by a few others too, maybe that's around the sweet spot?

  • @ibleebinU
    @ibleebinU 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Great deal on a legendary snare drum! I like the medium to med-hi tuning in most cases but med-low to fatten it up.

  • @aluminati9918
    @aluminati9918 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Excellent playing! Ludwig snares rule. Keep the great vids coming.

    • @NickCostaMusic
      @NickCostaMusic  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Many thanks, @aluminati9918 ! Really appreciate the kind words, and for taking the time to check the vid out.
      Couldn't agree more about Ludwig snares - there's a reason they're often imitated and never duplicated.

  • @jkozol
    @jkozol 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Definitely one of my favorites along with the Black Beauty. Great job as always Nick!

    • @NickCostaMusic
      @NickCostaMusic  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Can’t go wrong with either, and you can cover everything with those two. Appreciate the continued support, @jkozol ! 🙏🏼 🥁

  • @roybeckerman9253
    @roybeckerman9253 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Killer snare on high tuning, especially.

    • @NickCostaMusic
      @NickCostaMusic  18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Totally agree - medium-high and high tunings are my go to

  • @jerrygamez5723
    @jerrygamez5723 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love it. Thanks for the video

    • @NickCostaMusic
      @NickCostaMusic  19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Of course! Glad you enjoyed it, and thanks for watching🥁

  • @Claes_Isacson
    @Claes_Isacson 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Great vid as always Nick 👍 I also have a, although slightly more pitted, 1968 LM400 (and a 402 from the same year as well). Bought them because that’s my year of birth. :) It’s the most versatile drum I own. Takes every tuning and every microphone like a champ. Thx for sharing your beautiful supra! 🥁

    • @NickCostaMusic
      @NickCostaMusic  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you, @dataslipsen ! This was a fun vid to make, and loved how the drum adapted in every tuning. It truly is a jack of all trades drum.
      How cool that you have both the LM400 and LM402 of your birth year! Out of the two, do you have a preference?

    • @Claes_Isacson
      @Claes_Isacson 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@NickCostaMusic Surprisingly the 5x14” is my go to.

  • @jorymil
    @jorymil หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just got one; probably will keep it for life.

  • @user-fs5bc1se8m
    @user-fs5bc1se8m หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Best snare ever made...I have a 1966 LM400

    • @NickCostaMusic
      @NickCostaMusic  วันที่ผ่านมา

      Most recorded that's for sure!

  • @ericl2969
    @ericl2969 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I never knew there was a date stamp inside the shell, mostly because I went my entire adult life not doing any drumming, and just got back into it during retirement. I just looked at mine and the date is October 17, 1966. There's also a hand-scripted letter "L" inside and I wonder if that identifies an inspector or the person who did the final assembly. Mine is flawless, without a spec of corrosion or damage. I got it used with a drum small kit in about 1971 when I was a kid. I prefer graduated mufflers and I never liked the lever-action muffler on these drums because it's all or nothing, and because it's so tight that it noticeably wonks-out the tuning (creating a zone of the head having a sharply higher pitch than the rest of the head), and the same is true for toms having this kind of muffler, but I've found that flipping the lever up just enough to put the edge of the muffler lightly against the head avoids that problem and is usually satisfactory.

    • @NickCostaMusic
      @NickCostaMusic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yep! Most vintage Ludwig’s have that date stamp inside the shell. They can easily be removed, so be careful if you ever clean the shell!
      That’s a great snare, and great year! I agree, I have the baseball bat lever dampers on my late 60s downbeat kit, and do the same thing if I need a bit of muffling - just a slight turn to get them to barely engage. What kit do you have now?

    • @ericl2969
      @ericl2969 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@NickCostaMusic Thanks. I won't try to clean the inside of the shell. I honestly haven't tried to identify the kit. I was a kid at the time when my parents bought it used from a jazz drummer in his 20s who was apparently calling it quits and moving on after college. He informed us that the kit was the "second-best" level of quality that was produced by Ludwig, whatever that might mean, and the price he paid had been $600 (four-piece kit) but I don't know if that included the cymbals (ride, crash, hi-hat). I can say that's it has a blue metal-flake paint. The cymbals are rather strange, with a bit of a clunky sound but they are Avedis Zildjian (again, I don't know if such cymbals came with a Ludwig kit or had to be purchased separately).

    • @NickCostaMusic
      @NickCostaMusic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you got the kit in the early 70s, then based off you said (clunky avedis zildjian) they're most likely from the A series. As for drums, do you remember the sizes (20 kick, 12 rack, 14 floor, or 22 kick, 13 rack, 16 floor)? Did they have 1 lug in the middle, or 2 lugs (one on top, one on bottom)?

    • @ericl2969
      @ericl2969 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@NickCostaMusic Small tom =12", floor tom = 14", bass drum = 20". All drums have separate lug mounts for the top and bottom heads. I assume the whole kit was the same age as the snare drum, so built in 1966.

  • @daviddoyle1409
    @daviddoyle1409 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Great video! Would you mind sharing the snare heads and snare wires you used on this Supraphonic? Thanks!

    • @NickCostaMusic
      @NickCostaMusic  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks @daviddoyle1409 ! Heads are Remo - Ambassador X coated on the top, Ambassador snare side on the bottom. Snare Wires are a set of World Max german snare wires

    • @roybeckerman9253
      @roybeckerman9253 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Are both top and bottom cranked on your high tuning..?

  • @Spagz
    @Spagz 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Sounds great. Never saw a Corvette I didn't like. Same goes with Supraphonics 😂. When I went looking to buy I decided to get the LM402 since I already had 2 Acroliite 5" deep, and several other 5+5-1/2 snares. I prefer it now to all of my snares. It can tune so low and go so high! I did throw a set of cast hoops on it to see how I liked it, but prefer the steel. I have no idea what it is about this line but they just got the perfect design on them. So if I could only keep one snare, this would be mine.
    Still haven't found my black beauty though!

    • @NickCostaMusic
      @NickCostaMusic  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s a great analogy! Excellent decision with the LM402 - those rip. If it was good enough for Bonham, right? You have a great arsenal of snares there, too!

  • @carlupthegrove262
    @carlupthegrove262 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Who doesn't love the Supra??.... Mine is a later model (B/O badge) but the sound is the same... I love the Medium High tuning. But it works at all tunings... Nice job on the vid.

    • @NickCostaMusic
      @NickCostaMusic  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They just work, period. The medium-high, and high tunings are my favorite too!

  • @flavy1000
    @flavy1000 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Epic..the father of snares!!!

    • @NickCostaMusic
      @NickCostaMusic  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Seriously! It is THE vintage snare sound

  • @threesoundband
    @threesoundband 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can’t go wrong with the Supraphonic! Can you explain the different tunings (how tight the batter/reso)?

    • @NickCostaMusic
      @NickCostaMusic  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Seriously - they sound great with any style! As for tuning, I go by ear. I make the reso table top tight for a quick snare response, then adjust the batter based off the sound I'm going for

  • @TM_Stone
    @TM_Stone 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The plandemic was the best time to buy drums, some great prices. Those days are long gone.

    • @NickCostaMusic
      @NickCostaMusic  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Totally, and cars too!

    • @TM_Stone
      @TM_Stone 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@NickCostaMusic Yes, cars! Now it's nuts.

    • @tyhystreasuretrove7315
      @tyhystreasuretrove7315 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Plandemic 🤘😂

  • @99rpm
    @99rpm 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi Nick, can you (or anyone else who’s also knowledgeable) explain to a noob what sets this snaredrum (shell) apart from other chrome snares? As in, what makes it sound better. Is it the material or construction or? Legitimate question.

    • @NickCostaMusic
      @NickCostaMusic  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hey @99rpm - a lot of beginner/entry level shells are steel with chrome plating, and most likely welded together. A supraphonic is aluminum with chrome plating, and is a seamless/spun shell. That's the primary difference that makes this stand out as a more pleasing sound sonically, though the hoops, hardware, number of lugs can all effect the sound as well.

    • @99rpm
      @99rpm 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Clear, thanks Nick!

  • @MultiEchelon
    @MultiEchelon 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Gorgeous and mine ❤🤭

    • @NickCostaMusic
      @NickCostaMusic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      A drum that has both looks AND sound!

  • @jc3drums916
    @jc3drums916 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love the sound, but I will never buy one (vintage COB being an exception, depending on condition and price). I just can't deal with the pitting. Aluminum and chromium are galvanically incompatible, so pitting is inevitable. But there is magic in that fragile combination (IMHO it sounds better than the Acrolite, and different from COB), so I can't blame others for not caring, nor Ludwig for continuing to make them.

    • @NickCostaMusic
      @NickCostaMusic  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Totally get it - it’s definitely a situation where you try to find one with the least amount. They do sound fantastic though - we can agree on that!

  • @quispecalle8612
    @quispecalle8612 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Que bien suena esa trampa o redoblante.....mi estimado que suegerencia o del trampa?

    • @NickCostaMusic
      @NickCostaMusic  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Depende del sonido que prefieras, ¡aunque el Ludwig Supraphonic siempre es un tambor muy versátil!

    • @quispecalle8612
      @quispecalle8612 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Esta bien mi estimado, uno de esa trampa o redoblante cuanto cuesta en mi pais no hay esa trampa.

    • @NickCostaMusic
      @NickCostaMusic  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No estoy seguro, aunque puedes encontrarlos en reverb.com o eBay; solo tendrás que enviarlo a tu país.

  • @ForeverDownByLaw
    @ForeverDownByLaw 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    You know who makes better snares than Ludwig?, eh, nobody.

    • @NickCostaMusic
      @NickCostaMusic  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Couldn’t agree more, @foreverdownbylaw !

    • @BCEBilbo
      @BCEBilbo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Noble & Cooley

    • @user-of1hd2dy1t
      @user-of1hd2dy1t 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Rogers

    • @dolphe.chiarino6142
      @dolphe.chiarino6142 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Gretsch make a great snare.

    • @jorymil
      @jorymil หลายเดือนก่อน

      Noble and Cooley, but for 3x the price.

  • @gastonjabaly
    @gastonjabaly 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I thought it was the lm402

    • @NickCostaMusic
      @NickCostaMusic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The lm402 is the 6.5x14 model

  • @SebCo77
    @SebCo77 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Are you pronouncing it "Lug-wig"?

    • @NickCostaMusic
      @NickCostaMusic  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Lud-wig - you're hearing my Philly accent...