I don't recall ever hearing such words of wisdom in all complexity or, in utter clarity. If I listen really hard, with utter focus, then I re-enter consciousness. One moment of inattention and I'm back to the illusion of thought. I feel blessed to have encountered the guidance of Rupert.
Like a mother….I cried at the beauty of consciousness allowing manifestation and forgoing peace…I want to give consciousness nothing BUT peace…I have to sit with this… thank you…almost unfathomable , so expansive…it is peace…infinite.🙏
It's so curious - in the western tradition we wonder where god is, he seems so far away; we don't realise that she's right in front of our eyes! Thanks Rupert for your clear, deep and beautiful insights.
@@cazalis My personal experience is that there's certainly something there no Organised Religion has a real handle on, because they immediately supplant that numinous whatever with their own self-image. It's intensely personal, for starters, so the first thing is to get rid of the educators and experience it yourself - if it wants to play ball. Would you rather read a guidebook to some exotic land, or experience it yourself? The religious texts are just guidebooks, and embedding them as reality is a con. It's as real as a CV is to the psyche. Quite possibly total fiction.
I think you will notice in astrology and philosophy any reference to the divine or godliness is not something we can find in ecstatic knowing or feeling sensation and perception along with knowing and asking from is absolved from a actual or what is simulated reality of something that is always and only a destroyer to all precept tool or pole of consciousness and experience we are just as extraordinarly opposed to what is real and what is known. This isnt machine language or a real recording its from the Westside south bay area.
"Only awareness itself can have the experience of being aware" - Rupert Spira. This is the golden string that ties all dimensions and time together into a neat little "package" that I can grock.
Ler's express that more precisely. The mid-brain gyri are the seat of neuroception, the essential feedback mechanism to the limbic, reporting on what the rest of the cogntive cortex is up to. That creates a distinction between awareness and perception of awareness. What we're looking for is the same in neurotheology, into what Bruce Duncan Perry praises me for, the identification of transception, awareness of the intangible (I'm doing slightly more than working off Maslow's transpersonal, but it's the same domain). This may be more closely linked to the limbic, as accessing that requires suppression of the cognitive ego.
What part of the brain’s neural network is active when we think? When we have thought, feeling, sensation, perception? Not so much those. My real question is about Belief. Is belief activated by limbic system? Which is precisely what?
@@juliejordy4529 I think I must open with a Statement of Interest of some weight. In 2012, the team I was part of won the Nobel Peace Prize for its work, partly in the creation of the Peacemaking concept, partly for our delivery, and much of that was through me (albeit not of me). In response to your real question, I'd answer no. Belief is a communicative experience, and few get to experience it. Being a God-botherer is not communication. Being God-bothered is - not that I'm complaining in the least! Perhaps I should rephrase your question, if you'll forgive me, into "How do we perceive the intangible?" Firstly, please look at Andrew Newberg's introduction to neurotheology on here. I'm far more results-driven, and here, I'll open out Reiki as the epitome of third-sector medicine. I've tested as a Reiki Master, rather to my surprise, as I've never studied it: it's core is meridian sensitivity, and can be heavily augmented with empathy and transcendence. The core is where it connects to Dr Newberg's work, in that the sensitivity to the meridians indicates it's in the nervous system in a way we don't yet comprehend, but may be an extension of polyvagal theory. Non-believers can power it so a very limited extent from their own resources. We cannot at this point say which is exactly what. The closest I've got so far is to extend Elaine Aron's High Sensitivity Thesis massively at the top end, in the empathic. I've a huge IQ driving what would pass as ESP - but I'm not claiming it for myself. To have delivered six months work in structuring a major policy document, accurately anticipating a question coming my way, is seen by Harley Street as hyperperception. To me, it was simply a certitude based om experience that the question was coming my way. I've likewise completed Gandhi's work, and much more, some of which I can talk about, much I'm not allowed to. Obviously I'm leaving far more out than just that, mostly because I don't want to confuse you. Ask away!
Teachings can only be directed to the ‘me’ who wants liberation. Apparently in my case the teachings were useful to come to see that all seeking is hopeless. Eventually there may be a recognition that the me who’s looking doesn’t exist. No teaching will ever bring about realisation, only perhaps lead to a dead end and exhaustion. It may then be realised that the search is hopeless, that the search perpetuates the separation. This seems to bring about an energetic shift where it is realised that there’s no me, no search and nothing to find, only what’s happening. It’s completely ordinary and utterly obvious!
Absolutely true. Such an easy realisation takes years of efforts and purification of mind through Sadhanas. Samsara is so enchanting and so is the play of Maya.
@@anbukkarasimanoharan775Well said! All these apparently profound statements everywhere by "experts" who're just starting out! Dance parties, drugs and unceasing activity so much more attractive than all those boring seekers of truth, the monks and so forth who don't look happy and so must have missed the boat that all these "experts" know! But so it is!!
This talk by Rupert Spiro has been very helpful in crystallizing my own thoughts, this ties in well with the work of the progressive scientific thinking of Jude Currivan.
I feel deeply that what is shared here, is known also deeply by all of us, just our training/education has veiled this. Thanking another me, seeming as someone seperate.❤️
@@multirichardb I disagree. I've repeatedly channelled the numinous, including in plain sight of UCL's Professor Arshad Rather and a panel of Harley Street psychiatrists, whose diagnosis was hyperperception - an extreme form of Elaine Rather's High Sensitivity thesis. I'm channelling something which knows stuff I don't, like a question of strategic importance which would be asked in my daughter's presence six months in the future. I therefore had the answer ready, prepared in a state of academic neutrality, nobody else knew I'd done it. It was a full and complete answer, four months work prepared from the questioner's viewpoint in as many hours. Your hypothesis is a minimalist solution. If it were true, we wouldn't suffer the horrors of existentialist reality. Heisenberg determinism disproves it too.
@@multirichardb Another take in this is that the neurodiverse have clear water between them and neurotypicality. A neurotypical can't cope with my persona, and I can only just tolerate theirs, so your first statement isn't true. What you've done is let a fabulated ideal become your reality, when empirically it doesn't check out. If it were true, you'd know everything about the stranger in the queue next to you, and we'd have no need of psychiatry, because we'd all be singing from the same hymn-sheet.
Bravo, Rupert. A marvelously succinct and clear explication of the Perennial Philosophy which has remained veiled in esoterica for 10,000 years! And this in less than 50 minutes! At last, we now have a wellspring to which we can refer those in search of a draught from the spring of true Wisdom. Very well done, indeed.
I do not speak inglish but I think this guy is a great teacher. What he is teaching, I cannot say, because I dont speak inglish, but he looks like a great teacher. I mean, the perfect smile, the quietness, only a great teacher can do that. And most of all, the grey shirt. The grey shirt is a sign of awakeness. I'm almost certain that Bouddha himself had a collection of grey shirts, and that madam Bouddha iron them every morning before mister Bouddha go to work. Here is the secret of enlightment: without a miss Bouddha, no shirt. (This teaching is for free.)
" I have heard about Lin Chi, a Zen master. As he was sitting one day in his hut someone came to see him. The man who came was angry. He may have been fighting with his wife or with his boss or something - but he was angry. He pushed open the door in anger, he threw down his shoes in anger and then he came, very respectfully, and bowed down to Lin Chi. Lin Chi said, “First go and ask forgiveness from the door and from the shoes.” The man must have looked at Lin Chi very strangely. There were other people also sitting there and they started laughing. Lin Chi said, “Stop!” and then said to the man, “If you don’t do it then leave. I will have nothing to do with you.” The man said, “It will look crazy to ask forgiveness from the shoes and from the door.” Lin Chi said, “It was not crazy when you expressed anger. Will it now be crazy? Everything has a consciousness. So you go, and unless the door forgives you, I am not going to allow you in.” The man felt awkward but he had to go. Later on he became a monk himself and became enlightened. When he became enlightened, he related the whole anecdote and he said, “When I stood before the door, asking forgiveness, I felt awkward, foolish. But then I thought that if Lin Chi says so, there must be something in it. I trusted Lin Chi, so I thought that even if it was foolish do it. In the beginning whatsoever I was saying to the door was just superficial, artificial; but by and by I started to get warm. And Lin Chi was waiting and he said that he would watch. If the door forgave me, only then could I come in; otherwise I had to stay there until I had persuaded the door and the shoes to forgive me. By and by I became warm. I forgot that many people were looking. I forgot about Lin Chi - and then the concern became sincere and real. I started to feel the door and the shoes were changing their mood. And the moment I realized that the door and the shoes had changed and that they are feeling happy, Lin Chi immediately said that I could come. I had been forgiven.” This incident became a transforming phenomenon in his life because for the first time he became aware that everything is really a crystallization of consciousness. If you cannot see it, it is because you are blind. If you cannot hear it, it is because you are deaf. There is nothing the matter with the things around you. Everything is condensed consciousness. The problem is with you - you are not open and sensitive. This technique says, this consciousness exists as each being, and nothing else exists. Live with this notion. Be sensitive to this and wherever you move, move with this mind and this heart - that everything is consciousness and nothing else exists. Sooner or later, the world will change its face. Sooner or later, objects disappear and persons start appearing everywhere. Sooner or later, the whole world will be suddenly illumined and you will know that you were living in a world of dead things just because of your insensitivity. Otherwise everything is alive - not only alive, everything is conscious. Everything deep down is nothing but consciousness. But if you leave it as a theory, if you believe in it as a theory, then nothing will happen. You will have to make it a way of life a style of life - behaving as if everything is conscious. In the beginning it will be an ‘as if’, and you will feel foolish, but if you can persist in your foolishness, and if you can dare to be foolish, soon the world will start revealing its mysteries."
This is a great story, love it. I agree "everything is conscious" but it doesn't necessarily mean there is a universal or infinite consciousness. Just as another model, consider that energy, which is defined as the capacity to do work, is itself sentient/conscious. Since everything is made of up energy (even matter), everything is conscious but it doesn't mean there's a universal or infinite consciousness. It's just a bunch of energy/consciousness. In other words, it's unclear to me still if the door and shoe are the SAME consciousness with individual localisations or just individual localisations of different consciousnesses ("globs of energy") that "appear the same." I don't see how any human being can resolve this since what we know personally is all we have (and this knowing is what Spira uses to reject materialism or panpsychism).
Thanks a lot Rupert, this was illuminating, empowering and helpful. Thanks for your honesty and sincere dedication that emanate from every little word. Actually that would help on cognitive level as precious material And encouraged me to accept the deficiency and limitation of my personal experience, that thing i always seek for . God bless you.
It is rather fascinating, as a relatively new student of Zen Buddhism, to listen to perspectives on nonduality from the angle of Advaita Vedanta. There are certainly some differences and some metaphysical assertions I would quibble over, but there is a lot we agree on as well.
The model of this Universe being God's dream is quite tempting. It gives rise to many enigmatic questions when taken to its logical conclusion. For example, can we say that if God needs to dream like his creatures do, he must also need to wake up like his creatures do. When he wakes up does he realise that he was in a dream and the world that he was perceiving was unreal ? Does God enter deep sleep also like his creatures do ? What is the difference between God's waking and deep sleep states ? If God is pure consciousness/awareness, does it mean that God loses awareness in His deep sleep state just as creatures do ? When God wakes up, what kind of universe does He see? since his dreamed up creature universe no longer exists. If God needs to wake up, dream and deep sleep, then can he be considered as another creature himself? In that case, are there multiple Gods ? If so then these Gods themselves are higher creatures and the entire dream world analogy must be applicable to them in toto. These Gods must themselves be dream creatures of their God etc. ad infinitum in an endless regression. So the model of the world being God's dream is specious at best. It looks quite plausible initially but inadequate and deceptive upon inquiry.
Anthropomorphisation of the numinous is unhelpful. An immaterial being has no need of alpha-phase sleep to restore tts physiology, and a more advanced mind doesn't need to process its experience in batch mode (beta phase sleep).
@@mojoomla Not my conception, answer it for yourself. I'm not into dealing with other folks' delusions, I've enough to do keeping track of my own reality, weird as it can be.
Once awareness invit s you you ceases to be as ' i ' it is only afterwards coming back or dropped back into relatives you can speak of it as a print left in you tastless , discursive, trying to put into words an absolute by means of relative thus those that walked most of the path could understand something yet in a distorted way .That is the ultimate secret that can't be shared
Are we an extension? We are A receptor,living,having experiences. Our attachment to the body could be overly emphasized. We are manifesting a process,called life. I think!
Something I discovered from my numinous experiences is that what we call 'soul' or 'consciousness of self' is memory: memory that is 'attached' to the atoms that make us up. This memory is engraved on the cyclical groove that each atom bores through time and space (the fluctuations of each atom making the grooves) much like the grooves on an old phonograph record. In this way 'karma' is made, 'reincarnation' and a collective 'universal consciousness' - it is the hypocampus acting as a needle on those grooves of memory etched into time and space by the atoms you have inherited (and continue to inherit each day) as well as making further grooves with each atom that passes through you. This is how we are (and everything in the cosmos is) 'immortal', interconnected and, when that atomic memory is able to reflect upon itself, 'god'.
@@RubenCastilloGomez Yes, a memory of the millisecond since you read/contemplated the experience (i.e. consciousness of the self can be described as the 'ego' which is a significant part of the memory of the 'Self'). In this sense the ego is observing the Self and the Self, when experienced in the present moment, allows consciousness to be aware in the present in a way the ego never can (because ego is memory) - hence facilitating the universe to experience itself. Here is what is often called 'higher consciousness, but can be more accurately described as consciousness in the only moment that ever exists - the now. This is why those who have such experiences a. can't really describe the experience in words, because language is a tool of the ego (and although they and I have tried afterwards, it will never match the experience), b. realise their thinking, speaking, problem solving ego is not all of them and is in fact a very small part of themselves (i.e. "I think therefore I am" is a maxim of the ego-illusion that it is the self just because it can 'think') and c. how the universe is able to realise itself through this 'higher' consciousness, because it can only 'exist' in the present. However, even this will eventually become 'karma' because one cannot stay in that moment forever and we rely upon the ego to survive (and we have a habit of memorising this as a species). Whilst ego dissolution often occurs during such experiences as we realise our consciousness of the self is not all of our consciousness and is not our 'Self', the ego will become reborn as wiser and non-liniar problem solver and observer of the self. This kind of experiential memory when it is made makes rather large grooves which, if played in the same way (i.e. some one else has a numinous experience) essentially acts like a kind of deja vu for the universe - or a better analogy is a dreamer (the universe) who dreams about similar things/people that tell them they are dreaming (the memory of numinous experiences).
There are no atoms! We are a tiny speck of consciousness having a dream about being human. We're just jacked into the Matrix. None of it is real. So how can atoms that don't exist record ANYTHING? ACIM teaches karma is just a trick of the ego to make it real.
Gayathri manthra : The sun rises , removes darkness and makes objects visible to the eyes but consciousness makes everything in our experience knowable including the eyes and sun!
Glad someone else noticed this. He sounds like he's reading off a teleprompter or rehearsing the pledge of allegiance or something, he does NOT sound natural at all. He gives good answers to direct live questions in his other videos, but man, seeing this rote recitation of tired old talking points, and the use of the same analogies over and over, really makes me doubt that Rupert really has anything more than just a pretty philosophy. At least Alan Watts and Terence McKenna were creative and entertaining philosophers. Rupert's stuff sounds suspiciously close to unhealthy depersonalization/derealization... imagine trying to be "aware of awareness" every waking moment lol. Though, I guess dumb people can attain enlightenment, so maybe that's all that's going on with this guy.
Simultaneous word creation is the Original Creation which creates word images such as God and heaven, earth, Consciousness, Awareness. Non-Duality equals NO BEING. Words have never been, and thus Being NO BEING is the answer to all questions of Duality. Realizing NO BEING which can not be described (no words), Life is E Z P Z. 'There is no consciousness, no definitions, no war, no drugs, no subjects, no objects, all words being Imagined by "I" or "I am" which is the Vast Imagination of words. God realizes all words are complete and the Creator is Imagination and rests eternal. Being is eternal Imagination, Eyes wide open equals Imagination equals NO BEING and Eyes shut and resting equals NO BEING. Unknowable equals Absolute Perfection equals No senses or Nonsense equals Presence of God which all equal NO BEING. Rupert Spira is a fake God representing Duality of Consciousness/unconsciousness and Love/hate, nature/mankind, all of which has never been. This message is from eyes wide open that knows NO BEING. Life is Pure Fun knowing NO death and living life as every word eternal.
@@NI000NoIdentity A spontaneous response.... Like everything appearing, 'Rupert' is nothing appearing unavoidably and perfectly as 'Rupert', a human/mammal that is completely without substance or solidity. Ultimately, words are completely empty of meaning, purpose and significance...all of them, including these. Beyond all this conjecture, beyond all these words, life is already undivided love and eternal mystery. Who can talk about infinity? It's like writing on water, or catching air in a butterfly net....all the dream-play of Maya!😂💟
The question in the youtube selection chart is "Is everything conscious?" I see it this way: "conscious is everything". Energy collapses into matter as soon as conscious is able to 'reflect' upon itself.
That is why there are tow sort of consciousness the one that we believe we are and the holy one that very rarely could be attainable,the first i believe can be reached by AI but not the second
As a philosopher I am agnostic as to whether everything IS conciousness. What can be said of objective reality - if such a thing exists - is mostly speculative. As a spiritual seeker I know from experience everything only arises IN conciseness but those two claims are ontologically (pertaining to being or existence) different. I’ll contemplate further and remain undecided for now!
But maybe it's just a bunch if localisations only, there's no Infinite Consciousness but rather individual localisations that "appears the same" because of some synchronicity (like all humans being the same, brain structures being the same, etc.). We assume that your answer to the question "Am I Aware" and my answer is pointing to the exact same thing in saying there is Infinite Consciousness but all we have for agreement is yet again the same thing as with materialism, concurrence among different people or egos/minds. So I disagree it is absolutely "knowing" using the same criteria you've established re: materialism.
Probably better not yo say anything about it as our finite minds are completely unable to comprehend what is spoken of. Unless the purpose is to try to awaken consciousness through his speech 💬
But there can be information leakage between the dream character and the dreamer. I've woken up from a nightmare, realised it was a nightmare, gone back to sleep, and the nightmare continued but this time the dream characters within the nightmare knew it was a nightmare (the second time). I'm sure people have had other dreams where they realised they were dreaming. Furthermore, physical laws don't existing my dreams, the dream characters have done some crazy things and inconsistently too, from moment to moment (within the dream) to dream to dream and so on. Sometimes there have not been dream characters at all but rather crazy dreams like universes of thoughts or homogeneous universes (no subjects, people, tigers). If you've seen Dr. Strange and the Multiverse of Madness, then even more crazy than these but along those lines. It appears I'm not the only one having these kinds of dreams either.
4:58 I would really like to hear him say to us that are emotions limit our spirits from taking part in a true experience of the moment because of our prior conditioning called the past. I call it simply sleepwalking when our conditioning interferes with our potential for true perception. I'll never make money at it as far as I can imagine but I feel like a wealthy person because there are teachers like Mooji, Eckhart Tolle, Adyashanti, Deepak Chopra, Alan Watts, Wayne Dyer, Laozi also rendered as Lao Tzu and the eVer nOt pResent oRange pLaguemeister dOnald tRump.
Interestingly, Lao Tzu's Blessed are the Meek (Tao te i-ching, c200bce) made it into the Beatitudes (c30CE), and is a key mantra in self-suppression as a meditative method producing cognitive suppression freeing the limbic, normally repressed by cognition. My Reiki master skill's rooted in meridian channelling of the numinous, rooted in zen meditation attunement, with christian cleansing of the channels, and diplomatic long-range empathy. It came as a complete surprise, because I'm self-generated, on the team which won the 2012 Nobel Peace Prize. In other words, an identical background to Usui's circle. Therefore, as we're talking satori transcendence, you should add the Haiku masters like Basho to Watts.
@@JelMain I try to use the word awareness to mean that it arises within our Consciousness. Because we can't be aware without being conscious through consciousness itself, knowing happens because consciousness offers itself through understanding awareness. Sometimes, I get so tired from trying to Hash this out because I'm terrible at typing and talking to this Chromebook his crazy because so often the words are not what I say. Keeping in line with the efforts I make is a good endeavor. Try it because it's just like echoing what you hear.
@@ToddSloanIAAN Our consciousness is a feedback loop from the mid-brain gyri, in a cycle termed neuroception. I've been touting an even deeper level, awareness of the intangible, which I'm calling transception, out of respect to Abraham Maslow's Transpersonal, which became quite a fixation of his at the peak of his pyramid of aspiration. It's an essential in conceiving the domain of healing from psychological trauma, and is hailed as such by Bruce Duncan Perry. It's most obvious field runs from the empathic through the third sector of medicine to the numinous, although there are obviously references to it in many other areas as well. The -ceptions are subdomains of perception, so if you want to look into this further, I'd suggest you research the others, which are all tangible to some degree within the wider field of reality. They are, from the inside outwards, neuroception, interoception, proprioception, exteroception.
The challenge people like this gent don't address is to give this title any direction of functional capacity, no direct names are given that actually do exist, such as conscious mind, and unconscious mind, and the fact that we are an ideal of our personal oversoul, or overman, or Philemon.
Let's look at trauma therapies. They work by releasing a limbic process held in check by cognition, and meditation is one of a number of portals into cognitive suppression. The major heads are hypnosis (EMDR, for instance), psychotropics (MAPS, for instance), shamanics, sensory deprivation and meditation (eg mindfulness). Where Peter Levine identified one clearing the traumatic before it embeds, a similar one drains the programmed reflex response if that fails - as long as we have the trigger side in clear view as we drop in. I'm certain, with Reiki-master level meditational skills, that there are more. Can we conjure happiness? I suspect so. It depends on the focus we hold. Contentment, certainly.
@@JelMain None of these video actually offers any clear means of renewal, not ever. Thus we are on our own to rely on constructs that impel direct implication's toward mind, body, and nervous systems releases, done. Unless we're wealthy?
@@multirichardb We have the wealth of a couple of billion years debugging. Your terminology's overcomplex, please consider the Gospel of Matthew, Chapter 6, as a definition of that path, particularly focusing on the framework around it's main payload, as it disposes with Organised Religion and focuses on the individual. Then meditate on the systems in the main payload from an interpersonal relationship with the ontological. To simplify: There is a numinous, which we can relate to in humility. That means clearing the channels of our ego, dropping into cognitively-suppressed limbic neutrality by repentant confession. The latter takes the numinous seriously, the former simply recognises our egos are an obstruction. Then enjoy the ride. I graduated straight onto a CofE Church Army collegiacy, by demonstrating the reality of this. The completion of the Mahatma's work lay ahead.
@@JelMain Half brain dead non-answer, you wouldn't know what the Bible says if your life depended on it, gr. What amazes me is when people don't actually answer and offer unwanted half-baked answers, that only you know or rather don't know what that particular verbiage means?
What about primal subconscious drives and the id? It certainly is largely responsible for conflicts, despair and the challenges that humanity faces, amongst a plethora of other's. It's a strange thing to say, it's because of a internalised misinterpretation of consciousness. The complex challenges of humanity cannot be boiled down to such a simple thing as consciousness. Did a meteorite extinct the dinosaurs because they wasn't thinking properly? Obviously not, It's bizarre to say that.
I'm diagnosed hyperperceptive, sensitive to predestination. There are preconditioned traumatic responses in the genetic code, both at species level and inherited, certainly, but I'm mostly interested in neurotheology as a poly-individual expression of attunement.
Space, time and local reality are hallucinations of localised instances of the universal consciousness. The strangest thing is relativity did away with an absolute here and now. Quantum mechanics has done away with the universe being locally real. So science is backing up these teachings that's what I find so fascinating. Rupert, Hoffman and Wolfram should get together. The ruliad and the amplituhedron are knocking on the same door as these meditations.
There is no experience in deep sleep stage but consciousness still remains. In Turiya, one is pure consciousness sans experience. Hence, a direct relationship with experiencing may be just short a definition
Try transception, perception of the intangible, running from empathy through 3rd Sector medicine to the numinous, plus every other incidence. In beta-phase sleep, a limbic process clears experience into medium-long-term memory: our cortex shuts down, both cognitive and motor. Mine, interestingly, doesn't, but my main loading is upwards of 30% clearing it live-time rather than in batch. I only have alpha-phase physical restoration, a 24-hour EEG showed, just a vestige of beta remains - I maintain a low level of meditation as far as possible.
Our lives are streams of perception, and the classical model of neuroception, interoception, proprioception and exteroception all handle the tangible to various degrees. Following Wendy d'Andrea's report of crossover interoception in 2020, where she found couples with either partner carrying childhood trauma were bilaterally aware of each other's interoception - and that includes the untraumatised partner being aware of their partner's interoception, to unpack "bilaterally" - I realised not only that Peter Levine's animal healer for trauma was in the same domain, but also that huge areas of the mind are too. I therefore floated the concept of transception, the perception of the intangible, and it received the salute of Bruce Duncan Perry. It's major domains are empathy, 3rd Sector medicine, and the numinous, although sub-instances appear in the documentation all over the shop. We've recently heard from Andrew Sabisky about his work in NeuroTheology, for example, something very important in my own belief system. However, I take issue with the unitarian concept, because Organised Religion has caused so much harm mankind has spurned it. The trauma causes classic IAS reflexes, mostly fugue, occasional agression, and sadly the references in the preamble suppose a non-critical approach to an Organised Religion. My own life was diverted to resolve exactly that, I found myself unexpectedly completing the Mahatma's unfinished business, left that way because a Religious fundamentalist objected to peace. Twenty-eight years of patient faith have followed, it was only on 1st January that India caught up and agreed that unaccountably, they'd been at peace with Pakistan for decades! It matters not how long it took, the peace was real, and hadn't needed the mating of elephants, cosmic alignments, or anything other than the realisation that war is one of the more stupid ideas humanity has created. In case you don't know, I'm a fairly lead member of the team which won the 2012 Nobel Peace Prize, and the solution which worked for Pakistan was tabled by Imran Khan's meeting with Putin in March. I don't know what Advaita Vedanta is, who Francis Lucille is, what his Direct Path approach is, or what the Tantric Tradition of Kashmir Shaivism is, but my red flags went up instantly with Tantric. Love-bombing? A quick visit to Mr Lucille's site confirms the cashing-in. Two red flags. The philosophy of non-dualism is dogmatic belief in "only one truth that is Brahman". A major red flag. Yes, it talks of transcending that, but if it was transcendant, why the reference to it? All told, there is an issue of a duty of care here. Competent psychotherapy is quintessentially dualist, where I'm coming from and where they are, and we must respect that. This does not. Why, therefore, is it being given a hearing? Philosophy and psychology are not the same thing.
RS continues to repeat “… consciousness is the element that enables us to be aware, but you cannot know it”. Granted. But he continues to indirectly refer to “it” as something we can recognize and work with. I recognize consciousness, but consider it a concept, a process in which I become aware of thoughts, feelings, and emotions. RS evidently thinks one can somehow manipulate or interact with consciousness as if it were candy you can chew on. That implies free-will. Without free-will, how can you seek to understand something or utilize it? I don’t believe consciousness exists outside our brain, although all humans have the same “virtual” concept - it is not an element in the universe that can be manipulated outside our brain. It is how we conceptualize the “drive” that makes us seek food, shelter, sex, and whatever we need to survive and multiply - our biological imperatives. What we can do is be self-aware - of our motivations, our needs, etc., but that comes from learning the benefits of self-awareness from others and practicing it. It does not require free will. If free will was “real” it would be easy to break addiction habits. In fact, it is extremely difficult, and almost invariably requires, in one way or another, help and support from others. Sometimes life is like being caught in a river and you can swim all you want but you can’t excape the current without someone throwing you a rope.
@@Tarotainment nonduality teachers use words as tools of dehypnosis. For people completely identified with the mind it is an unbereable nonsense. For those more conscious more inner silence is generated.
@@michalrusin6503 I get so fed up with this use of somatic pap. Hypnosis is one of the paths into freeing the limbic, which then lets far more ancient autotherapeutic systems loose. The recent discovery (and I don't know how much of that is mine, but that's like saying, "Hey, grass is green!" when everyone's been saying "Constable's is yellow") of another daemon to match Peter Levine's pre-embedding shake-it-out trauma therapy is world-changing. Levine's daemon preempts embedding, this is post-embedding: all the therapies do is dump the subject into a cognitively-suppressed mindstate with a focus on the amygdala trigger, and leave it to that daemon to fix, by draining the associated response which informs the IAS reflex. You still trigger, but don't react. I've added a Reiki touch in experimenting on myself, I flooded the void left by the drain with agape (which of course hooks straight into Andrew Newberg's work on neurotheology, but then again, I'm an extreme case of Elaine Aron's Highly Sensitive thesis - Arshad Rather's team called it hyperperception), so now I get reassurance back, and that really does sort the residual fear. To my mind, training in mind-calming should be every adolescent's birthright. And the field is open to spot the many others in the limbic, Ruth Lanius' team under Braeden Terpou set the Gold Standard in their MRI-based study of the Innate Alarm System, the fight-or-flight, freeze, flop (and possibly fornicate) response to an embedded trauma triggering (I count genetically-programmed reflexes such as avreaction to spiders and snakes in there, and claustrophobia may be another), making the limbic the obvious place to look for the evident daemon common to every trauma therapy in the book.
If you rely on God and are diligent and yet you find that you need God ( as in where is he ) you don’t know what rely means. If you rely and are diligent and yet you find you need God then God just found you.
Sir, why you thank us for bearing (I feel the word bearing have a negative connotation) when we heartedly thanks you for sharing the crux of life with us.
But supposing my particular brand of existential angst isn't being generated by a frustrated desire to cease to exist, but rather just the opposite, of a fear of losing myself? Now I know were all taught (conditioned?) to be good little mystics, and that we must devalue our "smaller" individual identities at the expense of God's universal mind, but then why a physical world? That is, if Conscious is complete in and of itself, undimensioned and eternal, then why wouldn't it be content to just dream away for all time in a state of pure spiritual bliss? Why would it want to extend itself into a world of flesh and blood? Of birth and death? Of grief, sorrow, and loss? Why would Consciousness trade perfection for imperfection? Why would God want to be us? Just as the materialist atheist maintains that matter is mindless, so too does his opposite number, the mystic, maintain that matter is ultimately meaningless in the mind of God. It seems neither the materialist nor the mystic have any interest in the specifics, only the generalizations. And so as the two extremes continue on in their seeming ly diametrically opposed directions they begin to circle back on each other tot he point where they eventually become indistinguishable. Yes? No? Maybe?
Just a gentle reminder : "Enlightenment means you aren't easily driven to rage, you don't let people push your buttons and you don't use emotion as a tool to manipulate other people. It means you are not in the game for money or fame but for love and justice."
Nah i think enlightenment is purely a result of authenticity and being completely honest with yourself. you can be enlightened and still have interest in money, it's got nothing to do with that
If you find this believable then perhaps you should look towards the east. Zahng Gil-jah (also known as "God the mother") claims she is the fulfillment of all prophecies of the Bible.
To me, this appears to be an interesting and thought-provoking model of the universe. If it was presented as such, I would have found it interesting and perhaps enlightening. But Rupert seems to be claiming it as 'reality', and I personally did not hear any convincing evidence for this throughout the video. Personally, I do believe there could be some form of 'unity' or connection or 'consciousness' that we don't fully understand. But I am also very aware that humans have evolved to be terrible at perceiving truth and excellent at believing things that make them feel like they belong, or bring happiness. And this is evolutionarily beneficial, hence the rise and persistence of religions. Science, albeit flawed, is our best way of trying to understand the world based on evidence and not just irrational human intuition. I have no doubt in the future that we will have much improved models of the universe that capture the idea of some kind of 'whole being'. And our current knowledge will be found to be utterly incomplete, just as before our knowledge of evolution, and the big bang. Philosophical/spiritual/religious people 1000 years ago could have spent a lifetime 'intuiting' things but not understanding these fundamental parts of the universe. And so I don't believe that humans today can 'intuit' the nature of reality. That doesn't mean to say that this isn't an interesting thought experiment, and that there aren't benefits to introspection and contemplation. I just don't think they will lead to an accurate picture of reality.
1. Science takes logic as a lemma. 2. Logic is a domain of mathematics. 3. Mathematics has shown itself to be bounded. 4. Therefore both logic and science are bounded. 5. A bound has two sides, inside and outside. 6. Therefore, the unscientific is valid. As a cross-check, I'll have a kg of love and 3 litres of disdain, please. What you should have gathered is that the subconscious is not logical. There are many paths into it, from sexual subspace to religious meditation, and it's almost unknown: It's processes, which I'm going to call daemons as a redefinition broadening Jung's usage into the sense used in computing, background processes not subject to volition, are often hindered by cognition: this is typified by the numerous trauma therapies, which all use the same daemon which drains the reactive intent from selected traumatic response in the amygdala. Let me unpack that a little, a traumatic event isn't shaken off immediately (another daemon) and embeds in the amygdala as a trigger and response. Any time the incoming sensory information matches a traumatic trigger, the Innate Alarm System (another daemon) fires off the associated response through the limbic to the motor cortex, completely avoiding the cognitive cortex. This can build into trauma, traumatic stress, and become disordered, because the healer daemon seems to be blocked by cognition.
Dive deep into Vedanta/ Advaita Philosophy after qualifying yourself before starting your search for the TRUTH. Awareness knows Itself. You are That. Be still and know you are God.
Non duality is duality it’s the seeing of one who sees and one to been seen , still two . There is no separation between anything it is the human desire to be special and apart from the nature of reality that wastes time searching for the meaning of consciousness. We are all part of the all that is , connected to everything always . You will never die as you are in truth star dust and sunlight , energy , but the self concept ego and body will of course die . Be ok with that , the experience of embodied life is short be willing to experience all of it . Stop making preferences just settle into life do your best whatever that is . ✌️
Suzuki Roshi, when asked by a student: "How can I be more aware?" answered: "What is this 'I' of whom you speak,and where is it located?'
Rupert is one of the most calming spiritual teachers out there, his words are always comforting
Depends on which words you hear. Comfort isn't the purpose.
Who is the I that is comforted?
Ask “ For whom the words are comforting ?” Obvious Answer is “I”. Then inquire “who am I ? “
If you take him as your teacher then his words should shake you
@@BarryKilzzyour Mother❤
Wow, some remarkable insights, beautifully presented, thank you for sharing this.
I would have said watching this makes me happy but I now recognize that am already happy. Keep up the great work. This is an amazing show.
Thank you so much for this teaching. This one helps me a lot to sense the things otherwise.
This is a great sharing. Another veil has been taken away. Sensing the reality....awareness shining a light on our experience.
Wonderfully expaining!
Thanks ❤
I don't recall ever hearing such words of wisdom in all complexity or, in utter clarity. If I listen really hard, with utter focus, then I re-enter consciousness. One moment of inattention and I'm back to the illusion of thought.
I feel blessed to have encountered the guidance of Rupert.
this is as a whole the wonderfullest video every bit of it . it's not its content it's what it evokes. thank you
Like a mother….I cried at the beauty of consciousness allowing manifestation and forgoing peace…I want to give consciousness nothing BUT peace…I have to sit with this… thank you…almost unfathomable , so expansive…it is peace…infinite.🙏
Why not write a poem Sara....or maybe not.
Well expressed!
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Beautiful! Thank you.
I'm reading one of his books. Amazing video!
Which one did you choose Anne?
It's so curious - in the western tradition we wonder where god is, he seems so far away; we don't realise that she's right in front of our eyes! Thanks Rupert for your clear, deep and beautiful insights.
You should rather think of God as "it"
You should rather not think of god but be
@@cazalis My personal experience is that there's certainly something there no Organised Religion has a real handle on, because they immediately supplant that numinous whatever with their own self-image. It's intensely personal, for starters, so the first thing is to get rid of the educators and experience it yourself - if it wants to play ball.
Would you rather read a guidebook to some exotic land, or experience it yourself? The religious texts are just guidebooks, and embedding them as reality is a con. It's as real as a CV is to the psyche. Quite possibly total fiction.
And It is within us, we are Divine
I think you will notice in astrology and philosophy any reference to the divine or godliness is not something we can find in ecstatic knowing or feeling sensation and perception along with knowing and asking from is absolved from a actual or what is simulated reality of something that is always and only a destroyer to all precept tool or pole of consciousness and experience we are just as extraordinarly opposed to what is real and what is known. This isnt machine language or a real recording its from the Westside south bay area.
"Only awareness itself can have the experience of being aware" - Rupert Spira. This is the golden string that ties all dimensions and time together into a neat little "package" that I can grock.
Ler's express that more precisely. The mid-brain gyri are the seat of neuroception, the essential feedback mechanism to the limbic, reporting on what the rest of the cogntive cortex is up to. That creates a distinction between awareness and perception of awareness.
What we're looking for is the same in neurotheology, into what Bruce Duncan Perry praises me for, the identification of transception, awareness of the intangible (I'm doing slightly more than working off Maslow's transpersonal, but it's the same domain). This may be more closely linked to the limbic, as accessing that requires suppression of the cognitive ego.
What part of the brain’s neural network is active when we think?
When we have thought, feeling, sensation, perception? Not so much those. My real question is about Belief. Is belief activated by limbic system? Which is precisely what?
@@juliejordy4529 I think I must open with a Statement of Interest of some weight. In 2012, the team I was part of won the Nobel Peace Prize for its work, partly in the creation of the Peacemaking concept, partly for our delivery, and much of that was through me (albeit not of me).
In response to your real question, I'd answer no. Belief is a communicative experience, and few get to experience it. Being a God-botherer is not communication. Being God-bothered is - not that I'm complaining in the least! Perhaps I should rephrase your question, if you'll forgive me, into "How do we perceive the intangible?" Firstly, please look at Andrew Newberg's introduction to neurotheology on here. I'm far more results-driven, and here, I'll open out Reiki as the epitome of third-sector medicine.
I've tested as a Reiki Master, rather to my surprise, as I've never studied it: it's core is meridian sensitivity, and can be heavily augmented with empathy and transcendence. The core is where it connects to Dr Newberg's work, in that the sensitivity to the meridians indicates it's in the nervous system in a way we don't yet comprehend, but may be an extension of polyvagal theory. Non-believers can power it so a very limited extent from their own resources.
We cannot at this point say which is exactly what. The closest I've got so far is to extend Elaine Aron's High Sensitivity Thesis massively at the top end, in the empathic. I've a huge IQ driving what would pass as ESP - but I'm not claiming it for myself. To have delivered six months work in structuring a major policy document, accurately anticipating a question coming my way, is seen by Harley Street as hyperperception. To me, it was simply a certitude based om experience that the question was coming my way. I've likewise completed Gandhi's work, and much more, some of which I can talk about, much I'm not allowed to.
Obviously I'm leaving far more out than just that, mostly because I don't want to confuse you. Ask away!
What RS says is 200% correct in my humble opinion as I am experiencing all what he says about Consciousness/Awareness, the ' I ' factor in all.
Teachings can only be directed to the ‘me’ who wants liberation. Apparently in my case the teachings were useful to come to see that all seeking is hopeless. Eventually there may be a recognition that the me who’s looking doesn’t exist. No teaching will ever bring about realisation, only perhaps lead to a dead end and exhaustion. It may then be realised that the search is hopeless, that the search perpetuates the separation. This seems to bring about an energetic shift where it is realised that there’s no me, no search and nothing to find, only what’s happening. It’s completely ordinary and utterly obvious!
Absolutely true. Such an easy realisation takes years of efforts and purification of mind through Sadhanas. Samsara is so enchanting and so is the play of Maya.
You said it👍👌🙏
@@anbukkarasimanoharan775Well said! All these apparently profound statements everywhere by "experts" who're just starting out!
Dance parties, drugs and unceasing activity so much more attractive than all those boring seekers of truth, the monks and so forth who don't look happy and so must have missed the boat that all these "experts" know!
But so it is!!
you seem to know exactly what it is... you don't
You have beautifully understood it is effectively and exactly the way you have mentioned congratulations ❤❤
Consciousness is everything-being itself.
He certainly was taught well by his teacher, he’s the most peaceful human being to hear speak. This is a great talk. Thank you.
Very interesting, excellent discussion.
Behold the sage most profound.
Thank you Rupert for the best lecture of reality❤
This talk by Rupert Spiro has been very helpful in crystallizing my own thoughts, this ties in well with the work of the progressive scientific thinking of Jude Currivan.
I feel deeply that what is shared here, is known also deeply by all of us, just our training/education has veiled this. Thanking another me, seeming as someone seperate.❤️
There is no other you, all personas are you. There is no others. Same as in a dream, all person's in your dreams are you.
@@multirichardb I disagree. I've repeatedly channelled the numinous, including in plain sight of UCL's Professor Arshad Rather and a panel of Harley Street psychiatrists, whose diagnosis was hyperperception - an extreme form of Elaine Rather's High Sensitivity thesis. I'm channelling something which knows stuff I don't, like a question of strategic importance which would be asked in my daughter's presence six months in the future. I therefore had the answer ready, prepared in a state of academic neutrality, nobody else knew I'd done it. It was a full and complete answer, four months work prepared from the questioner's viewpoint in as many hours.
Your hypothesis is a minimalist solution. If it were true, we wouldn't suffer the horrors of existentialist reality. Heisenberg determinism disproves it too.
Stand back a little, there are many choices. Look before you leap.
@@multirichardb Another take in this is that the neurodiverse have clear water between them and neurotypicality. A neurotypical can't cope with my persona, and I can only just tolerate theirs, so your first statement isn't true. What you've done is let a fabulated ideal become your reality, when empirically it doesn't check out. If it were true, you'd know everything about the stranger in the queue next to you, and we'd have no need of psychiatry, because we'd all be singing from the same hymn-sheet.
Dear sir, I am no solipsist. Cheers
Hello there. Thank you so much for sharing these words of widom , of eternal truth ."
I think of the film Solaris… I found it a beautiful visual expression of this concept.
Bravo, Rupert. A marvelously succinct and clear explication of the Perennial Philosophy which has remained veiled in esoterica for 10,000 years! And this in less than 50 minutes! At last, we now have a wellspring to which we can refer those in search of a draught from the spring of true Wisdom. Very well done, indeed.
Come to India visit the Villages it's present in everyday life. Not the cities the villages. 10,000 years of unbroken tradition still alive.
I do not speak inglish but I think this guy is a great teacher. What he is teaching, I cannot say, because I dont speak inglish, but he looks like a great teacher. I mean, the perfect smile, the quietness, only a great teacher can do that. And most of all, the grey shirt. The grey shirt is a sign of awakeness. I'm almost certain that Bouddha himself had a collection of grey shirts, and that madam Bouddha iron them every morning before mister Bouddha go to work. Here is the secret of enlightment: without a miss Bouddha, no shirt. (This teaching is for free.)
Lovely combination of speakers.
I can't get stereo on my tablet.
Incredible ❤
" I have heard about Lin Chi, a Zen master. As he was sitting one day in his hut someone came to see him. The man who came was angry. He may have been fighting with his wife or with his boss or something - but he was angry. He pushed open the door in anger, he threw down his shoes in anger and then he came, very respectfully, and bowed down to Lin Chi. Lin Chi said, “First go and ask forgiveness from the door and from the shoes.” The man must have looked at Lin Chi very strangely. There were other people also sitting there and they started laughing. Lin Chi said, “Stop!” and then said to the man, “If you don’t do it then leave. I will have nothing to do with you.” The man said, “It will look crazy to ask forgiveness from the shoes and from the door.” Lin Chi said, “It was not crazy when you expressed anger. Will it now be crazy? Everything has a consciousness. So you go, and unless the door forgives you, I am not going to allow you in.”
The man felt awkward but he had to go. Later on he became a monk himself and became enlightened. When he became enlightened, he related the whole anecdote and he said, “When I stood before the door, asking forgiveness, I felt awkward, foolish. But then I thought that if Lin Chi says so, there must be something in it. I trusted Lin Chi, so I thought that even if it was foolish do it. In the beginning whatsoever I was saying to the door was just superficial, artificial; but by and by I started to get warm. And Lin Chi was waiting and he said that he would watch. If the door forgave me, only then could I come in; otherwise I had to stay there until I had persuaded the door and the shoes to forgive me. By and by I became warm. I forgot that many people were looking. I forgot about Lin Chi - and then the concern became sincere and real. I started to feel the door and the shoes were changing their mood. And the moment I realized that the door and the shoes had changed and that they are feeling happy, Lin Chi immediately said that I could come. I had been forgiven.”
This incident became a transforming phenomenon in his life because for the first time he became aware that everything is really a crystallization of consciousness. If you cannot see it, it is because you are blind. If you cannot hear it, it is because you are deaf. There is nothing the matter with the things around you. Everything is condensed consciousness. The problem is with you - you are not open and sensitive.
This technique says, this consciousness exists as each being, and nothing else exists. Live with this notion. Be sensitive to this and wherever you move, move with this mind and this heart - that everything is consciousness and nothing else exists. Sooner or later, the world will change its face. Sooner or later, objects disappear and persons start appearing everywhere. Sooner or later, the whole world will be suddenly illumined and you will know that you were living in a world of dead things just because of your insensitivity. Otherwise everything is alive - not only alive, everything is conscious.
Everything deep down is nothing but consciousness. But if you leave it as a theory, if you believe in it as a theory, then nothing will happen. You will have to make it a way of life a style of life - behaving as if everything is conscious. In the beginning it will be an ‘as if’, and you will feel foolish, but if you can persist in your foolishness, and if you can dare to be foolish, soon the world will start revealing its mysteries."
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This is a great story, love it. I agree "everything is conscious" but it doesn't necessarily mean there is a universal or infinite consciousness. Just as another model, consider that energy, which is defined as the capacity to do work, is itself sentient/conscious. Since everything is made of up energy (even matter), everything is conscious but it doesn't mean there's a universal or infinite consciousness. It's just a bunch of energy/consciousness. In other words, it's unclear to me still if the door and shoe are the SAME consciousness with individual localisations or just individual localisations of different consciousnesses ("globs of energy") that "appear the same." I don't see how any human being can resolve this since what we know personally is all we have (and this knowing is what Spira uses to reject materialism or panpsychism).
Thank you for this
Beautiful🙏
The clarity of the presentation. Grateful
With love and with light
That was a very quick hour. Very interesting.
Blew my mind after I read your comment and had to confirm it was in fact an hour
Thanks a lot Rupert, this was illuminating, empowering and helpful.
Thanks for your honesty and sincere dedication that emanate from every little word.
Actually that would help on cognitive level as precious material
And encouraged me to accept the deficiency and limitation of my personal experience, that thing i always seek for . God bless you.
Please talk forever Rupert ! No apology needed.I could listen forever.
Deep!!!!
very succinct and clear--with examples to help us experience the teaching.
It is rather fascinating, as a relatively new student of Zen Buddhism, to listen to perspectives on nonduality from the angle of Advaita Vedanta. There are certainly some differences and some metaphysical assertions I would quibble over, but there is a lot we agree on as well.
Consciousness is the collector of the data of the experience. It needs information, from which it can evolve.
Such a wonderful teacher
Love this guy
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Thank you!!!🙃❤
The model of this Universe being God's dream is quite tempting. It gives rise to many enigmatic questions when taken to its logical conclusion. For example, can we say that if God needs to dream like his creatures do, he must also need to wake up like his creatures do. When he wakes up does he realise that he was in a dream and the world that he was perceiving was unreal ? Does God enter deep sleep also like his creatures do ? What is the difference between God's waking and deep sleep states ? If God is pure consciousness/awareness, does it mean that God loses awareness in His deep sleep state just as creatures do ? When God wakes up, what kind of universe does He see? since his dreamed up creature universe no longer exists. If God needs to wake up, dream and deep sleep, then can he be considered as another creature himself? In that case, are there multiple Gods ? If so then these Gods themselves are higher creatures and the entire dream world analogy must be applicable to them in toto. These Gods must themselves be dream creatures of their God etc. ad infinitum in an endless regression.
So the model of the world being God's dream is specious at best. It looks quite plausible initially but inadequate and deceptive upon inquiry.
Anthropomorphisation of the numinous is unhelpful. An immaterial being has no need of alpha-phase sleep to restore tts physiology, and a more advanced mind doesn't need to process its experience in batch mode (beta phase sleep).
@@JelMain Exactly. So why would God sleep and dream at all ?
@@mojoomla Not my conception, answer it for yourself. I'm not into dealing with other folks' delusions, I've enough to do keeping track of my own reality, weird as it can be.
My gratitude for this sharing is full of love
Actually Rupert speaks a lot explaining the nature of Consciousness which should be explained or expressed only by remaining SILENT and STILL.
Wonderful
I think I’ve found my path
Once awareness invit s you you ceases to be as ' i ' it is only afterwards coming back or dropped back into relatives you can speak of it as a print left in you tastless , discursive, trying to put into words an absolute by means of relative thus those that walked most of the path could understand something yet in a distorted way .That is the ultimate secret that can't be shared
Are we an extension?
We are A receptor,living,having experiences.
Our attachment to the body could be overly emphasized.
We are manifesting a process,called life.
I think!
Something I discovered from my numinous experiences is that what we call 'soul' or 'consciousness of self' is memory: memory that is 'attached' to the atoms that make us up. This memory is engraved on the cyclical groove that each atom bores through time and space (the fluctuations of each atom making the grooves) much like the grooves on an old phonograph record. In this way 'karma' is made, 'reincarnation' and a collective 'universal consciousness' - it is the hypocampus acting as a needle on those grooves of memory etched into time and space by the atoms you have inherited (and continue to inherit each day) as well as making further grooves with each atom that passes through you. This is how we are (and everything in the cosmos is) 'immortal', interconnected and, when that atomic memory is able to reflect upon itself, 'god'.
And whoever (or whatever) is reading this, or contemplating this numinous experience, is just "a memory". Really? 🤔
@@RubenCastilloGomez Yes, a memory of the millisecond since you read/contemplated the experience (i.e. consciousness of the self can be described as the 'ego' which is a significant part of the memory of the 'Self').
In this sense the ego is observing the Self and the Self, when experienced in the present moment, allows consciousness to be aware in the present in a way the ego never can (because ego is memory) - hence facilitating the universe to experience itself. Here is what is often called 'higher consciousness, but can be more accurately described as consciousness in the only moment that ever exists - the now. This is why those who have such experiences a. can't really describe the experience in words, because language is a tool of the ego (and although they and I have tried afterwards, it will never match the experience), b. realise their thinking, speaking, problem solving ego is not all of them and is in fact a very small part of themselves (i.e. "I think therefore I am" is a maxim of the ego-illusion that it is the self just because it can 'think') and c. how the universe is able to realise itself through this 'higher' consciousness, because it can only 'exist' in the present.
However, even this will eventually become 'karma' because one cannot stay in that moment forever and we rely upon the ego to survive (and we have a habit of memorising this as a species). Whilst ego dissolution often occurs during such experiences as we realise our consciousness of the self is not all of our consciousness and is not our 'Self', the ego will become reborn as wiser and non-liniar problem solver and observer of the self.
This kind of experiential memory when it is made makes rather large grooves which, if played in the same way (i.e. some one else has a numinous experience) essentially acts like a kind of deja vu for the universe - or a better analogy is a dreamer (the universe) who dreams about similar things/people that tell them they are dreaming (the memory of numinous experiences).
There are no atoms! We are a tiny speck of consciousness having a dream about being human. We're just jacked into the Matrix. None of it is real. So how can atoms that don't exist record ANYTHING? ACIM teaches karma is just a trick of the ego to make it real.
Great analogy 😊
Yeah, and David Koresh also claimed to be christ - where is the authority for these statements of yours?
Gayathri manthra : The sun rises , removes darkness and makes objects visible to the eyes but consciousness makes everything in our experience knowable including the eyes and sun!
I’m here in Nunawading
This man evinces the high base line blink rate of a nervous person. So much for the vapid philosophy
Glad someone else noticed this. He sounds like he's reading off a teleprompter or rehearsing the pledge of allegiance or something, he does NOT sound natural at all. He gives good answers to direct live questions in his other videos, but man, seeing this rote recitation of tired old talking points, and the use of the same analogies over and over, really makes me doubt that Rupert really has anything more than just a pretty philosophy. At least Alan Watts and Terence McKenna were creative and entertaining philosophers. Rupert's stuff sounds suspiciously close to unhealthy depersonalization/derealization... imagine trying to be "aware of awareness" every waking moment lol. Though, I guess dumb people can attain enlightenment, so maybe that's all that's going on with this guy.
absolute freedom, undivided love, indivisible oneness, is beyond all knowingness, and is already the case:)
Simultaneous word creation is the Original Creation which creates word images such as God and heaven, earth, Consciousness, Awareness. Non-Duality equals NO BEING. Words have never been, and thus Being NO BEING is the answer to all questions of Duality. Realizing NO BEING which can not be described (no words), Life is E Z P Z. 'There is no consciousness, no definitions, no war, no drugs, no subjects, no objects, all words being Imagined by "I" or "I am" which is the Vast Imagination of words. God realizes all words are complete and the Creator is Imagination and rests eternal. Being is eternal Imagination, Eyes wide open equals Imagination equals NO BEING and Eyes shut and resting equals NO BEING.
Unknowable equals Absolute Perfection equals No senses or Nonsense equals Presence of God which all equal NO BEING.
Rupert Spira is a fake God representing Duality of Consciousness/unconsciousness and Love/hate, nature/mankind, all of which has never been. This message is from eyes wide open that knows NO BEING. Life is Pure Fun knowing NO death and living life as every word eternal.
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A spontaneous response....
Like everything appearing, 'Rupert' is nothing appearing unavoidably and perfectly as 'Rupert', a human/mammal that is completely without substance or solidity. Ultimately, words are completely empty of meaning, purpose and significance...all of them, including these. Beyond all this conjecture, beyond all these words, life is already undivided love and eternal mystery. Who can talk about infinity? It's like writing on water, or catching air in a butterfly net....all the dream-play of Maya!😂💟
The question in the youtube selection chart is "Is everything conscious?" I see it this way: "conscious is everything". Energy collapses into matter as soon as conscious is able to 'reflect' upon itself.
@@-Boundless- Well said!
Is this path Sant Mat or the path of initiation into the inner holy light and sound?
I have thoughts, I am not a thought.
❤️ thank u Rupert
That is why there are tow sort of consciousness the one that we believe we are and the holy one that very rarely could be attainable,the first i believe can be reached by AI but not the second
As a philosopher I am agnostic as to whether everything IS conciousness. What can be said of objective reality - if such a thing exists - is mostly speculative.
As a spiritual seeker I know from experience everything only arises IN conciseness but those two claims are ontologically (pertaining to being or existence) different.
I’ll contemplate further and remain undecided for now!
It makes sense to me when I ask the question, ‘Where does ‘everything’ come from?’
Yes. If everything wasn’t conscious, how could your mind change the world and your life. How could the mind change the world unless it was the world.
But maybe it's just a bunch if localisations only, there's no Infinite Consciousness but rather individual localisations that "appears the same" because of some synchronicity (like all humans being the same, brain structures being the same, etc.). We assume that your answer to the question "Am I Aware" and my answer is pointing to the exact same thing in saying there is Infinite Consciousness but all we have for agreement is yet again the same thing as with materialism, concurrence among different people or egos/minds. So I disagree it is absolutely "knowing" using the same criteria you've established re: materialism.
Probably better not yo say anything about it as our finite minds are completely unable to comprehend what is spoken of. Unless the purpose is to try to awaken consciousness through his speech 💬
But there can be information leakage between the dream character and the dreamer. I've woken up from a nightmare, realised it was a nightmare, gone back to sleep, and the nightmare continued but this time the dream characters within the nightmare knew it was a nightmare (the second time). I'm sure people have had other dreams where they realised they were dreaming. Furthermore, physical laws don't existing my dreams, the dream characters have done some crazy things and inconsistently too, from moment to moment (within the dream) to dream to dream and so on. Sometimes there have not been dream characters at all but rather crazy dreams like universes of thoughts or homogeneous universes (no subjects, people, tigers). If you've seen Dr. Strange and the Multiverse of Madness, then even more crazy than these but along those lines. It appears I'm not the only one having these kinds of dreams either.
4:58 I would really like to hear him say to us that are emotions limit our spirits from taking part in a true experience of the moment because of our prior conditioning called the past. I call it simply sleepwalking when our conditioning interferes with our potential for true perception. I'll never make money at it as far as I can imagine but I feel like a wealthy person because there are teachers like Mooji, Eckhart Tolle, Adyashanti, Deepak Chopra, Alan Watts, Wayne Dyer, Laozi also rendered as Lao Tzu and the eVer nOt pResent oRange pLaguemeister dOnald tRump.
Interestingly, Lao Tzu's Blessed are the Meek (Tao te i-ching, c200bce) made it into the Beatitudes (c30CE), and is a key mantra in self-suppression as a meditative method producing cognitive suppression freeing the limbic, normally repressed by cognition.
My Reiki master skill's rooted in meridian channelling of the numinous, rooted in zen meditation attunement, with christian cleansing of the channels, and diplomatic long-range empathy. It came as a complete surprise, because I'm self-generated, on the team which won the 2012 Nobel Peace Prize. In other words, an identical background to Usui's circle. Therefore, as we're talking satori transcendence, you should add the Haiku masters like Basho to Watts.
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I try to use the word awareness to mean that it arises within our Consciousness. Because we can't be aware without being conscious through consciousness itself, knowing happens because consciousness offers itself through understanding awareness. Sometimes, I get so tired from trying to Hash this out because I'm terrible at typing and talking to this Chromebook his crazy because so often the words are not what I say. Keeping in line with the efforts I make is a good endeavor. Try it because it's just like echoing what you hear.
@@ToddSloanIAAN Our consciousness is a feedback loop from the mid-brain gyri, in a cycle termed neuroception. I've been touting an even deeper level, awareness of the intangible, which I'm calling transception, out of respect to Abraham Maslow's Transpersonal, which became quite a fixation of his at the peak of his pyramid of aspiration. It's an essential in conceiving the domain of healing from psychological trauma, and is hailed as such by Bruce Duncan Perry. It's most obvious field runs from the empathic through the third sector of medicine to the numinous, although there are obviously references to it in many other areas as well.
The -ceptions are subdomains of perception, so if you want to look into this further, I'd suggest you research the others, which are all tangible to some degree within the wider field of reality. They are, from the inside outwards, neuroception, interoception, proprioception, exteroception.
The challenge people like this gent don't address is to give this title any direction of functional capacity, no direct names are given that actually do exist, such as conscious mind, and unconscious mind, and the fact that we are an ideal of our personal oversoul, or overman, or Philemon.
Let's look at trauma therapies. They work by releasing a limbic process held in check by cognition, and meditation is one of a number of portals into cognitive suppression. The major heads are hypnosis (EMDR, for instance), psychotropics (MAPS, for instance), shamanics, sensory deprivation and meditation (eg mindfulness). Where Peter Levine identified one clearing the traumatic before it embeds, a similar one drains the programmed reflex response if that fails - as long as we have the trigger side in clear view as we drop in.
I'm certain, with Reiki-master level meditational skills, that there are more. Can we conjure happiness? I suspect so. It depends on the focus we hold. Contentment, certainly.
@@JelMain None of these video actually offers any clear means of renewal, not ever. Thus we are on our own to rely on constructs that impel direct implication's toward mind, body, and nervous systems releases, done. Unless we're wealthy?
@@multirichardb We have the wealth of a couple of billion years debugging. Your terminology's overcomplex, please consider the Gospel of Matthew, Chapter 6, as a definition of that path, particularly focusing on the framework around it's main payload, as it disposes with Organised Religion and focuses on the individual. Then meditate on the systems in the main payload from an interpersonal relationship with the ontological.
To simplify: There is a numinous, which we can relate to in humility. That means clearing the channels of our ego, dropping into cognitively-suppressed limbic neutrality by repentant confession. The latter takes the numinous seriously, the former simply recognises our egos are an obstruction. Then enjoy the ride.
I graduated straight onto a CofE Church Army collegiacy, by demonstrating the reality of this. The completion of the Mahatma's work lay ahead.
@@JelMain Half brain dead non-answer, you wouldn't know what the Bible says if your life depended on it, gr. What amazes me is when people don't actually answer and offer unwanted half-baked answers, that only you know or rather don't know what that particular verbiage means?
What about primal subconscious drives and the id? It certainly is largely responsible for conflicts, despair and the challenges that humanity faces, amongst a plethora of other's. It's a strange thing to say, it's because of a internalised misinterpretation of consciousness. The complex challenges of humanity cannot be boiled down to such a simple thing as consciousness. Did a meteorite extinct the dinosaurs because they wasn't thinking properly? Obviously not, It's bizarre to say that.
I'm diagnosed hyperperceptive, sensitive to predestination. There are preconditioned traumatic responses in the genetic code, both at species level and inherited, certainly, but I'm mostly interested in neurotheology as a poly-individual expression of attunement.
What kind of UNCONSCIOUSNESS leads a person to talk to people by computer, in different locations WITH A MASK ON? AND interrupt the speaker??
Space, time and local reality are hallucinations of localised instances of the universal consciousness. The strangest thing is relativity did away with an absolute here and now. Quantum mechanics has done away with the universe being locally real. So science is backing up these teachings that's what I find so fascinating. Rupert, Hoffman and Wolfram should get together. The ruliad and the amplituhedron are knocking on the same door as these meditations.
If this mouth, that my Being is abutting with, speaks, then it makes a sound.
There is no experience in deep sleep stage but consciousness still remains. In Turiya, one is pure consciousness sans experience. Hence, a direct relationship with experiencing may be just short a definition
Try transception, perception of the intangible, running from empathy through 3rd Sector medicine to the numinous, plus every other incidence. In beta-phase sleep, a limbic process clears experience into medium-long-term memory: our cortex shuts down, both cognitive and motor. Mine, interestingly, doesn't, but my main loading is upwards of 30% clearing it live-time rather than in batch. I only have alpha-phase physical restoration, a 24-hour EEG showed, just a vestige of beta remains - I maintain a low level of meditation as far as possible.
Our lives are streams of perception, and the classical model of neuroception, interoception, proprioception and exteroception all handle the tangible to various degrees.
Following Wendy d'Andrea's report of crossover interoception in 2020, where she found couples with either partner carrying childhood trauma were bilaterally aware of each other's interoception - and that includes the untraumatised partner being aware of their partner's interoception, to unpack "bilaterally" - I realised not only that Peter Levine's animal healer for trauma was in the same domain, but also that huge areas of the mind are too. I therefore floated the concept of transception, the perception of the intangible, and it received the salute of Bruce Duncan Perry. It's major domains are empathy, 3rd Sector medicine, and the numinous, although sub-instances appear in the documentation all over the shop. We've recently heard from Andrew Sabisky about his work in NeuroTheology, for example, something very important in my own belief system.
However, I take issue with the unitarian concept, because Organised Religion has caused so much harm mankind has spurned it. The trauma causes classic IAS reflexes, mostly fugue, occasional agression, and sadly the references in the preamble suppose a non-critical approach to an Organised Religion. My own life was diverted to resolve exactly that, I found myself unexpectedly completing the Mahatma's unfinished business, left that way because a Religious fundamentalist objected to peace. Twenty-eight years of patient faith have followed, it was only on 1st January that India caught up and agreed that unaccountably, they'd been at peace with Pakistan for decades! It matters not how long it took, the peace was real, and hadn't needed the mating of elephants, cosmic alignments, or anything other than the realisation that war is one of the more stupid ideas humanity has created. In case you don't know, I'm a fairly lead member of the team which won the 2012 Nobel Peace Prize, and the solution which worked for Pakistan was tabled by Imran Khan's meeting with Putin in March.
I don't know what Advaita Vedanta is, who Francis Lucille is, what his Direct Path approach is, or what the Tantric Tradition of Kashmir Shaivism is, but my red flags went up instantly with Tantric. Love-bombing? A quick visit to Mr Lucille's site confirms the cashing-in. Two red flags. The philosophy of non-dualism is dogmatic belief in "only one truth that is Brahman". A major red flag. Yes, it talks of transcending that, but if it was transcendant, why the reference to it?
All told, there is an issue of a duty of care here. Competent psychotherapy is quintessentially dualist, where I'm coming from and where they are, and we must respect that. This does not. Why, therefore, is it being given a hearing? Philosophy and psychology are not the same thing.
I have been exposed- "The Universe" ❤
RS continues to repeat “… consciousness is the element that enables us to be aware, but you cannot know it”. Granted. But he continues to indirectly refer to “it” as something we can recognize and work with. I recognize consciousness, but consider it a concept, a process in which I become aware of thoughts, feelings, and emotions. RS evidently thinks one can somehow manipulate or interact with consciousness as if it were candy you can chew on. That implies free-will. Without free-will, how can you seek to understand something or utilize it? I don’t believe consciousness exists outside our brain, although all humans have the same “virtual” concept - it is not an element in the universe that can be manipulated outside our brain. It is how we conceptualize the “drive” that makes us seek food, shelter, sex, and whatever we need to survive and multiply - our biological imperatives. What we can do is be self-aware - of our motivations, our needs, etc., but that comes from learning the benefits of self-awareness from others and practicing it. It does not require free will. If free will was “real” it would be easy to break addiction habits. In fact, it is extremely difficult, and almost invariably requires, in one way or another, help and support from others. Sometimes life is like being caught in a river and you can swim all you want but you can’t excape the current without someone throwing you a rope.
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Why is that guy wearing a surgeons mask alone in a room on webcam?
There is no Corona virus in non duality. He's just trying to protect the illusion that is not even there.
Words without content.
Ya. Non duality teachers usually don't say anything.. but they talk alot and point cameras at themselves just to make sure the ego gets a boost
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@@Tarotainment nonduality teachers use words as tools of dehypnosis. For people completely identified with the mind it is an unbereable nonsense. For those more conscious more inner silence is generated.
I have to say I did feel like a lot of words were spoken without a lot being said
@@michalrusin6503 I get so fed up with this use of somatic pap. Hypnosis is one of the paths into freeing the limbic, which then lets far more ancient autotherapeutic systems loose. The recent discovery (and I don't know how much of that is mine, but that's like saying, "Hey, grass is green!" when everyone's been saying "Constable's is yellow") of another daemon to match Peter Levine's pre-embedding shake-it-out trauma therapy is world-changing. Levine's daemon preempts embedding, this is post-embedding: all the therapies do is dump the subject into a cognitively-suppressed mindstate with a focus on the amygdala trigger, and leave it to that daemon to fix, by draining the associated response which informs the IAS reflex. You still trigger, but don't react. I've added a Reiki touch in experimenting on myself, I flooded the void left by the drain with agape (which of course hooks straight into Andrew Newberg's work on neurotheology, but then again, I'm an extreme case of Elaine Aron's Highly Sensitive thesis - Arshad Rather's team called it hyperperception), so now I get reassurance back, and that really does sort the residual fear.
To my mind, training in mind-calming should be every adolescent's birthright. And the field is open to spot the many others in the limbic, Ruth Lanius' team under Braeden Terpou set the Gold Standard in their MRI-based study of the Innate Alarm System, the fight-or-flight, freeze, flop (and possibly fornicate) response to an embedded trauma triggering (I count genetically-programmed reflexes such as avreaction to spiders and snakes in there, and claustrophobia may be another), making the limbic the obvious place to look for the evident daemon common to every trauma therapy in the book.
It's unclear if you're saying trees and such won't exist without finite minds? Humans aren't necessary for this world and Infinite Consciousness.
If you rely on God and are diligent and yet you find that you need God ( as in where is he ) you don’t know what rely means. If you rely and are diligent and yet you find you need God then God just found you.
Sir, why you thank us for bearing (I feel the word bearing have a negative connotation) when we heartedly thanks you for sharing the crux of life with us.
Why does rupert think these traditions have authority or legitimacy?
But supposing my particular brand of existential angst isn't being generated by a frustrated desire to cease to exist, but rather just the opposite, of a fear of losing myself?
Now I know were all taught (conditioned?) to be good little mystics, and that we must devalue our "smaller" individual identities at the expense of God's universal mind, but then why a physical world? That is, if Conscious is complete in and of itself, undimensioned and eternal, then why wouldn't it be content to just dream away for all time in a state of pure spiritual bliss? Why would it want to extend itself into a world of flesh and blood? Of birth and death? Of grief, sorrow, and loss? Why would Consciousness trade perfection for imperfection? Why would God want to be us?
Just as the materialist atheist maintains that matter is mindless, so too does his opposite number, the mystic, maintain that matter is ultimately meaningless in the mind of God. It seems neither the materialist nor the mystic have any interest in the specifics, only the generalizations. And so as the two extremes continue on in their seeming ly diametrically opposed directions they begin to circle back on each other tot he point where they eventually become indistinguishable. Yes? No? Maybe?
Hear lots of Swamy Sarvapriyananda' Advaita discourses and dive deep into that philosophy which has answer for everything.
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The universe seems to have a fractal structure as Rupert shows with the dream analogy.
Why's that guy wearing a mask?
Just a gentle reminder :
"Enlightenment means you aren't easily driven to rage, you don't let people push your buttons and you don't use emotion as a tool to manipulate other people. It means you are not in the game for money or fame but for love and justice."
Nah i think enlightenment is purely a result of authenticity and being completely honest with yourself. you can be enlightened and still have interest in money, it's got nothing to do with that
@@macaroon147 I never knew you had money as a sub
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Money has nothing to do with spirituality. Or how enlightened one is or isn't. It's just a tool.
I see that Rupert Spira's name is in danger of mutating into Robert Sparrow.
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There is nothing worse than earnestness; it always grosses me out.
Allah/The Almighty One is The All Knowing Creator Nurturer of Everything.
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If you find this believable then perhaps you should look towards the east. Zahng Gil-jah (also known as "God the mother") claims she is the fulfillment of all prophecies of the Bible.
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Everything is modulated consciousness. Not that everything is conscious.
To me, this appears to be an interesting and thought-provoking model of the universe. If it was presented as such, I would have found it interesting and perhaps enlightening.
But Rupert seems to be claiming it as 'reality', and I personally did not hear any convincing evidence for this throughout the video.
Personally, I do believe there could be some form of 'unity' or connection or 'consciousness' that we don't fully understand. But I am also very aware that humans have evolved to be terrible at perceiving truth and excellent at believing things that make them feel like they belong, or bring happiness. And this is evolutionarily beneficial, hence the rise and persistence of religions.
Science, albeit flawed, is our best way of trying to understand the world based on evidence and not just irrational human intuition. I have no doubt in the future that we will have much improved models of the universe that capture the idea of some kind of 'whole being'. And our current knowledge will be found to be utterly incomplete, just as before our knowledge of evolution, and the big bang. Philosophical/spiritual/religious people 1000 years ago could have spent a lifetime 'intuiting' things but not understanding these fundamental parts of the universe. And so I don't believe that humans today can 'intuit' the nature of reality.
That doesn't mean to say that this isn't an interesting thought experiment, and that there aren't benefits to introspection and contemplation. I just don't think they will lead to an accurate picture of reality.
The only way you will ever know is by directly experiencing it yourself.
1. Science takes logic as a lemma.
2. Logic is a domain of mathematics.
3. Mathematics has shown itself to be bounded.
4. Therefore both logic and science are bounded.
5. A bound has two sides, inside and outside.
6. Therefore, the unscientific is valid.
As a cross-check, I'll have a kg of love and 3 litres of disdain, please.
What you should have gathered is that the subconscious is not logical. There are many paths into it, from sexual subspace to religious meditation, and it's almost unknown: It's processes, which I'm going to call daemons as a redefinition broadening Jung's usage into the sense used in computing, background processes not subject to volition, are often hindered by cognition: this is typified by the numerous trauma therapies, which all use the same daemon which drains the reactive intent from selected traumatic response in the amygdala. Let me unpack that a little, a traumatic event isn't shaken off immediately (another daemon) and embeds in the amygdala as a trigger and response. Any time the incoming sensory information matches a traumatic trigger, the Innate Alarm System (another daemon) fires off the associated response through the limbic to the motor cortex, completely avoiding the cognitive cortex. This can build into trauma, traumatic stress, and become disordered, because the healer daemon seems to be blocked by cognition.
@@JelMain Whatever you say. I'll have a few kg of love, hold the distain.
@@dporper6390 Yup, you had that in full.
Dive deep into Vedanta/ Advaita Philosophy after qualifying yourself before starting your search for the TRUTH. Awareness knows Itself. You are That. Be still and know you are God.
WHO IN A SEPARATE ROOM AND OVER THE I-NET WEARS A MASK....EVEN AFTER THE DIFFICULTY OF HEARING HIM IS POINTED OUT??
Some people aren't even conscious
They are referred to by many philosophers as 'zombies'.
Non duality is duality it’s the seeing of one who sees and one to been seen , still two . There is no separation between anything it is the human desire to be special and apart from the nature of reality that wastes time searching for the meaning of consciousness. We are all part of the all that is , connected to everything always . You will never die as you are in truth star dust and sunlight , energy , but the self concept ego and body will of course die .
Be ok with that , the experience of embodied life is short be willing to experience all of it . Stop making preferences just settle into life do your best whatever that is . ✌️
I dont understand how people eat this up...
People in a coma obviously lost their conciousness. How about that?
And, what was their experience of non consciousness? Do try to keep up!
Consciousness Exists all the time every where. The medium through which it is reflecting is cut off and inoperative for sometime.
Everything is god’s dream as the child knows. I would define god as supreme intelligence and all-knowing power.
Refine your concept of God to get a more accurate perception