@@hayabusaorlovina2761 more claimed power sure. More actual power? No. Also, since the 765lt is a lot lighter, it's quicker. The only Ferrari that could take on the 765lt in straight line acceleration is the SF90 Stradale.
Considering the Emira is between 1/5th and 1/8th the cost of the rivals in secondary market, yet places in the top 3 for looks, sound, and steering feel/engagement is a huge win in my books. I'd also bet the Emira is probably the most fun of the group to drive at non-insane road speeds too
@@zix_zix_zix I'm ok with it, it's reliable, tractable and certainly sounds better then the turbocharged rivals in the test. It's also a fraction of the price
@@zix_zix_zix so it's the only one that will still be operable beyond a few thousand miles and won't require thousands of dollars for each basic repair 😂
GT4RS with the McLaren a very close second for me.I simply believe the Porshe is way more versatile and at the same time affordable too ,whilst putting the same smile on my face.
Affordable? Sir, the GT4 RS starts at almost $150,000, and the ones MotorTrend and Car & Driver tested were about $200,000. It is still half the price of the McLaren, but I’d argue that the Porsche is overpriced before I say it’s affordable 😅 By comparison, the McLaren is somewhat of a bargain, with Bugatti Chiron-like performance and style for 1/10th the price
@@chillyphilly2 the mclaren is overpriced it uses turbo and a weak engine with no character, the porsche is under priced easily worth way more, that why in 3 years mclaren will be worth less and the porsche will be going way up in value.
Great video guys. This channel definitely deserves more subs than a lot of other car review channels. Its the GT4RS for me here with the 296 a close second.
I’m not sure about the first guy who test drive the Ferrari say the sound is not good enough , turbo lag , etc etc , he sooooo serious and seams afraid ???
According to my dealer, I’m 30 days away from collecting my GT4RS. I think all the cars in contention are amazing. I do about 10 track days a year and always see Ferraris and McLarens out there. If you want a car that isn’t fragile, can brake hard lap after lap without the brakes overheating, and can handle repeated pounding all day long on the track, it has to be Porsche.
This was a bit ridiculous. The 765LT is 3 times the price of the Porsche with almost 300hp more. It isn't the same category of car. The 765LT should go up against the GT2 RS once the new one comes out, not the GT4RS. How can the GT4RS stand up against a car that's 3 times it's price? Such a great video but you can't compare these cars. Even the Ferrari against the Porsche isn't fare, it's more that twice the price.
Yeah the comparisson was maybe fair between the mc20, emira, gt4rs the ferrari and the mclaren are out of league even the ferrari is out of league with the 765lt spyder its like bringing a SF90 lol
I would take the 296 for the more expensive cars and the GT4RS for the less expensive cars but they are all amazing feats of engineering and performance.
I honestly can't decide, because this year all of these cars are simply sensational (and what a way to celebrate CAR'S 60th birthday as well 😃). Happy birthday CAR 😄🥳
Comparing cars 3-4 times the price of the Lotus is just crazy, and not to use the Sports suspensioned Emira in this company is silly. We are also talking about a pre production car . Even comparing it to a GT4RS costing at least 40% more , come on guys . So the Maserati broke down , so it isn’t really in the test . You show us list prices before options as well, so the price difference when taking in the options is probably far higher. Listening to the comments on the GT4RS it sounds like it would be unbearable on normal roads and not the super smooth tarmac you tested on, as would be the noise after an hours driving. If you want to just compare race car specials thats a different test for me , and quite frankly there is no way, nor reason, that the Emira can compete with cars costing 3-4 times as much …
Comparing the Emira to cars 3-4 times the price really shows how good the Emira is to have made it into this test. Despite it being a pre production car, its a risk lotus took by lending the car out to car margazine for review. 4RS Is just over 30% more expensive, 76K to 108K. Options don't make a car any more fun or exciting, which is the point of this test, and totally irrelevant.
@@primepremium5504 of course options make a difference when comparing specs and "liveability", the only people they don't matter too are those with so much money they don't care, or Car road testers .
@@pistonburner6448 I understand China better than most, as I own a business in Singapore, with clients in China and we have operations in Asia, the US and Europe. I'm disappointed for the UK-based engineering and manufacturing teams at Lotus, in that their product still needs some ironing out. But there's huge potential for them with the Emira. The new owners have certainly put more investment into Hethel than the previous mob from Malaysia. China is not the perfect place, absolutely not, however from their perspective, they've had years of exploitation from western countries using them for sweat shop, low cost manufacturing. If you don't want to be associated with China, good luck purchasing any product, not just cars! The west is rightly putting in place measures to limit Chinese investment; the ONS shows Chinese $ into the UK has dramatically declined since 2017 (see a great article in the latest Economist). This needs to continue, but whilst it does, the UK and western countries need to sort themselves out so they can stand on their own two feet and grow organically without reliance from 'others'
I don’t understand why you’ve done this comparison. You’ve compared a Lotus Emira pre-production sports car to a line up of mainly £200k+ super cars. That’s like comparing a tent to a 5 star hotel room. You’ve really thrown Lotus under a bus with this review. Very unfair! I’m slightly bias 😂 I have an Emira first edition arriving imminently in October.
So you chose a winner out of four cars to be the McLaren which closets £230,000 MORE than the Lotus. Why even put the Lotus in the test? Nobody shopping for the McKLaren with its hideous depreciations and running costs would even look at the Emira. Kinda pointless guys. Ditto the Ferrari.
I would have picked the McLaren too! Shame no raging bull, I'm interested to see how the Ultimae or Tecnica compare. Great reviews, superb cinematography!
Tbh i think these new baby cars would srsly take it to an aventador let alone an huracan. Its rly time for lamborghini to release some new models. But the ultimae line of cars signals the end for the aventador and huracan lines i think.
@@larssonk22 no, it's limited/sold out, cost millions and the buyers don't race them but keep them as garage queens. ever see any drag strip or track times? i'm talking about the 1000hp hybrid aventator successor about 600K.
Right? Let’s compare this new pre-production sports car with these best in class supercars… then moan it’s not as exciting 🤔 care to mention the Lotus is less than half the price? Incredible car for the money!
A worthy winner in my opinion. I knew it would be between the 4rs and the LT. The 296 "fun to drive" as ferrari called it is just to tame and so much suited to city driving. For a good twisty road i would definetly choose between the lt and the 4rs
Convertible supercar sports cars usually create the biggest smile especially on a travel roundup test and rightly so. All great supercar sports cars and a great review by “CAR”. Thank you from america! Enjoyed the review tremendously
I didn't expect the 765lt Spider to be as special as it is. On paper it just looks like a marginal stat improvement on the already fabulous 720, but there is something intangibly special about it. It was awesome seeing you guys getting the same reaction from it!
Having owned both, I’d say the 765LT Spider is like a completely different car to the (excellent) 720S. It’s also easily the best car McLaren Automotive have ever made.
That was entertaining. Enjoyed your enthusiasm. Currently enjoying my 718 Spyder. Also have a Miata. One day maybe the 765. I just love the 2 seater roadster with no pretension as a four seater. The minivan will do for the family trips!
The only two cars that are even close to being similar on this list are the GT4RS and the 296. The Lotus is barely $100k and the McLaren is at least $100k more than than the Porsche & Ferrari
A great review, you obviously enjoyed this roadtrip test. I’m a Porsche nut, so I don’t need to tell you which one I would go for. And numbers aren’t essential to me. What you feel and enjoy at the wheel is. But all of these cars must be a treat. So is the fact that this is how you lot are earning your living ! Well done !
Wonderful group of cars. I would have a tough time choosing between the Lotus & GT4RS. I thought the color combo on that Ferrari was in poor taste. It does not look good to my eyes.
I agree with Ewan Singleton’s comment below. As further support: The ‘cheapest’ USED 2022 765LT on sale in the US goes for a mere $750K. Next ‘cheapest’: $860K. Even with the max dealer markup I’ve found (an astonishing $100K), with every performance option (Weissach package, ceramics, mag wheels), a new 2023 (not 2022) GT4RS costs less than 40% of the ‘cheapie’. It’s an instant classic, has one of the best normally aspirated engines ever built, and has received white-hot reviews by all major auto magazines and online sites. I am skeptical that the McLaren is better in terms of pure driving experience, but if it is it very well should be.
In addition, if you can find a better, more passionate, more technologically proficient groups of automotive engineers and designers than Andreas Preuninger and his team please let me know who they are.
But the McLaren was a V8, Doesn´t it belong to another list? and also there is a certain feeling that you acctually are McLaren fans, Sorry but you couldn´t hide it too much.
The Lotus looks better than a baby McLaren, has a manual gearbox and Toyota reliability. Plus, we know how good that engine sounds in the Evora GT410 Sport, so an exhaust will transform it. Its absolutely where my money would go!
Gt4 rs is the best car there! Not even a contest! Best track performance, most thrilling, most race car experience, the sound is incredible, perfect chassis, best brakes, best gearbox, the price is decent for what it is, na engine, 9000 rpm, roll chage, perfect seats for driving hard, best stearing. The most reliable. Also is the last caymam rs and the first. The next one is Ev.
The thing is there’s really no point going fast on back roads. Too many blind corners and no runoff areas. Maybe I’m just getting old. All I need is a manual inexpensive car with about 300hp and have some carefree fun.
The 765 LT isn't even a fair comparison to make to all these other V6 hybrid etc models. For one the 765 is 2-3X the price of these cars and in a different segment. Also the 765 is a limited production car and extremely hard to get. As stated by others, this was a good comparison until the end.
A good review, yet where do you draw the line between what is a sports car and a super car? It would be extremely embarrassing for McLaren if their 330k car wasn’t the best? Clearly, the real “sports car” winner is the GT4RS. At 110k, it will be the car that goes straight to the “classics” hall of fame. Has there been a single review of the LT where its reported as a “once in a generation” or “only once in ten years…” type comments? Of course not. And while the McLaren has its day in the sun, its praise will quickly fade into obscurity, while the GT$RS becomes legendary. If you want to compare apples, may I suggest the 992 911 GT3RS :)
GT4s is not a touch on the Mclaren and the GT4s is slower and not as dynamic though it's a great car it's ugly. The Mclaren is more expensive but you get what you pay for well done Mclaren!
Its funny how they compare LT spider to the 296 and gt4rs both 6 cylinders. why not add the sf90 spider? if performance was the test, the lt doesnt beat the sf90.
People say that every porsche goes to the "classics hall" of fame. Before the GT4RS there was the GT4, both using bastardized 911 engines. For a car to be truly classic it cant be a parts bin car. No offense, Porsche make some absolute bangers, but is the GT4RS better than a GT3? Or a GT3RS? Is the 991.2 really better than the 991.1? Was the normal porsches steering 10 years ago better than the electric steering now? The Only truly game changing car porsche has made in the last 10 years is the 918.
For me they re in different leagues. Maybe the ferrari with the LT, but rest of all together. For its price...Lt and Gt4 winners. Very nice review anyway loving it!
"Road trip to determine which car is best". I'm not sure I fully understood the criterial for that statement. Both the 765 and GT4RS are race cars masquerading as street vehicles. On UK roads both would be the wrong tool for the job in a daily driver environment. The MC20 and Lotus would shine in that environment but lose in big fashion at the track. The Ferrari might be the best to handle both street and track situations.
How gorgeous is the MC20 in comparison to the 296? I love the rear 3/4 of the 296 but it's just ugly from the front. The MC20 with a MC12 livery would be my choice I think, would need the OPF's removed though to get some better sound out of it... or the Lotus and pay off my house :P :P
Let’s not forget that the lotus looks like it’s gonna be a pussy slayer for 1/3rd of the price!! Imagine having a Ferrari for that price (no women is gonna know the difference between Ferrari, lambo, or Mclaren. They just see expensive sports car)
I'd love any of those with the exception of the Lotus, in this company it looks outclassed in every department. For me, the one that offers the best combination of performance, desirability, and of being obtainable would be the Maserati.
@@paulspensley1094 I never said it was. But it's like comparing an Audi RS3 with a Dacia Sandero. It's not gonna be as good because it's not competing with any of these cars. Only the Cayman is similar but even then thr GT4 RS is 2 levels up. The Emira is built to rival a GTS
@@TheHesK9 problem is, that it lost that Lotus vibe. Now it's a sports car like many others just look at how much it weights compared to previous generations
Sadly soon all combustion cars and trucks including classics will be banned from public streets in entire EU and Scandinavia :-( In Germany the Green Peoples Party gave order to shorten fuel supply from 2025 on by reducing all conventional fuel stations to only one state operated central gas station per city or county. Car washs will be forbidden too because they are climate killers, now they want to slow down all the gas station pumps from 20 litre per minute to 2 litre per minute...From 2027 on in the EU certain car spare parts will be banned too....as exhaust systems, turbo chargers and even some engine and gearbox oils...California and New York will do the same from 2027 on.... So no investments should be done in oil burning cars any longer....They even created a new kind of crime here, called emissions and smoke crime. (BABVVEN & TEBBVEN & BEFVO laws)!!!!!
I really enjoyed this review and the setting is beautiful. The only disappointment is that the Emira delivered for the test has the touring suspension and tires.
Am I the only one who is going to comment on the goat right before the Porsche? Yes, the Porsche did not take top spot, but it is for all intents and purposes one of the greatest of all times, and I can see a bit of romanticism or nostalgia wanting to just remind us how great it is. Could I be reading between the proverbial lines??
between the cayman and evora it seems the cayman is set up to handle really well, at maximum potential while the evora can be a starting point for a much better handling by tuning the suspension and choosing better tires even a bit wider if it allows, at least that’s by looking at the suspension type. Maybe it’s meant to come in entry level tuneup
Why does it seem like Ferrari's have lost their looks recently. They use to be WOW cars. The 765 LT is so hot and fast, but give me the Rock Star of the group, the Porsche GT4 RS with its symphony of naturally aspirated sound dialed up to 11. Drive it like you stole it and she will say thank you sir can I have some more.
Agree entirely. It says something that I'm not even sure which model I'm looking at these days. The design language is all over the place, and they've certainly lost their elegance.
The 765LT is on a different level so CAR should make a comparison against the SF90, SVJ, GT2 RS, but hilarious that the Cayman GT4RS is still the peoples favorite 😂
GT4 RS, Hands down! But not because it is brilliant. Best reliability, less of a show off in this crowd, more dealers and easier to service. As the saying goes drive an Italian car but never own one. And for the McLaren well, I live in the US and the service availability is limited. On the Ferrari specifically, it is complex and that color is horrible! Thanks for the great review!
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Such an awesome collection of cars for this year’s CAR magazine Sports Car Giant Test - but which is your favourite? Comment below…
Ferrari 296 for sure!
GT4 RS. Every time.
GT4 RS is the one I want.
Emira
Emira doesn’t belong in this list. Great car but too underpowered in this crowd.
I feel like the 765 doesn’t belong in this list at all, almost unfair
Lol the porsche is way better, the sound alone makes it better. Lotus makes legendary cars aswell, most fun cars ever.
Simeon I agree with you for the McLaren.
Ferrari is way faster and more powerful.
The price points vary so much. Should be taken into account. Prices all over the place
@@Sideways_Singh why is the Porsche way better. Sound isn't the only thing that matters. In reality I would take the Ferrari or masarati
@@hayabusaorlovina2761 more claimed power sure. More actual power? No. Also, since the 765lt is a lot lighter, it's quicker. The only Ferrari that could take on the 765lt in straight line acceleration is the SF90 Stradale.
Considering the Emira is between 1/5th and 1/8th the cost of the rivals in secondary market, yet places in the top 3 for looks, sound, and steering feel/engagement is a huge win in my books. I'd also bet the Emira is probably the most fun of the group to drive at non-insane road speeds too
Bet looking
The Emira is a nice car but it has an underwhelming Toyota-derived engine..
@@zix_zix_zix I'm ok with it, it's reliable, tractable and certainly sounds better then the turbocharged rivals in the test. It's also a fraction of the price
@@zix_zix_zix so it's the only one that will still be operable beyond a few thousand miles and won't require thousands of dollars for each basic repair 😂
A collection of brilliant cars but I would go for the GT4RS. You can't beat a high revving normally aspirated engine.
Good choice!
765 is not in same price league, it has too be more car naturally
But we all know any gt Porsche will be a better car than any modern McLaren
MeToo
A high revving N/A engine can be boring as hell as well. Unit in a normal GT4 is quite boring to play with.
@@mikew9743 I spot a Porsche snob.
GT4RS with the McLaren a very close second for me.I simply believe the Porshe is way more versatile and at the same time affordable too ,whilst putting the same smile on my face.
Affordable? Sir, the GT4 RS starts at almost $150,000, and the ones MotorTrend and Car & Driver tested were about $200,000. It is still half the price of the McLaren, but I’d argue that the Porsche is overpriced before I say it’s affordable 😅 By comparison, the McLaren is somewhat of a bargain, with Bugatti Chiron-like performance and style for 1/10th the price
Driven them all, yeah,?
The sound alone makes it better then anything there.
Totally agree and at less than half the price of the McLaren.
@@chillyphilly2 the mclaren is overpriced it uses turbo and a weak engine with no character, the porsche is under priced easily worth way more, that why in 3 years mclaren will be worth less and the porsche will be going way up in value.
Great video guys. This channel definitely deserves more subs than a lot of other car review channels. Its the GT4RS for me here with the 296 a close second.
Brilliant tests of the four Kings. For me, it's got to be GT4 RS any day.
Well done Car magazine. But I will take Porsche. State of art on wheels.
I’m not sure about the first guy who test drive the Ferrari say the sound is not good enough , turbo lag , etc etc , he sooooo serious and seams afraid ???
1) Ferrari
2) Porsche
3) Maserati
Well after that, I think I'll change my Lotus Emira order for a McLaren 765LT . . . it's only an extra £230,000.
Maybe put a few old DVDs on eBay? Should about cover it…
😂😂😂 I might buy a fighter jet cos they’re faster and can fly
No.1 : Porsche 911 and Lotus Emira
Wanted the Lotus to win, but would have the GT4 RS or if i had too much money the 765
Ferrari 296 GTB Is The Best
WTF is wrong with ferraris BODY PAINT???
According to my dealer, I’m 30 days away from collecting my GT4RS. I think all the cars in contention are amazing. I do about 10 track days a year and always see Ferraris and McLarens out there. If you want a car that isn’t fragile, can brake hard lap after lap without the brakes overheating, and can handle repeated pounding all day long on the track, it has to be Porsche.
Have you joined the fb owners club?
Already with you?Im thinking buying a GT4RS too...
@@Illuminatuss loving mine! Still breaking in tho
You get your GT4RS?
The 296 is a masterpiece, can Mclaren keep up ? sweet sweet review n edit
This was a bit ridiculous. The 765LT is 3 times the price of the Porsche with almost 300hp more. It isn't the same category of car. The 765LT should go up against the GT2 RS once the new one comes out, not the GT4RS. How can the GT4RS stand up against a car that's 3 times it's price? Such a great video but you can't compare these cars. Even the Ferrari against the Porsche isn't fare, it's more that twice the price.
Yeah the comparisson was maybe fair between the mc20, emira, gt4rs the ferrari and the mclaren are out of league even the ferrari is out of league with the 765lt spyder its like bringing a SF90 lol
I would take the 296 for the more expensive cars and the GT4RS for the less expensive cars but they are all amazing feats of engineering and performance.
I honestly can't decide, because this year all of these cars are simply sensational (and what a way to celebrate CAR'S 60th birthday as well 😃). Happy birthday CAR 😄🥳
Thank you! 🎂🎂
@@CARmagazineTV No problem 😄
Comparing cars 3-4 times the price of the Lotus is just crazy, and not to use the Sports suspensioned Emira in this company is silly. We are also talking about a pre production car . Even comparing it to a GT4RS costing at least 40% more , come on guys .
So the Maserati broke down , so it isn’t really in the test . You show us list prices before options as well, so the price difference when taking in the options is probably far higher. Listening to the comments on the GT4RS it sounds like it would be unbearable
on normal roads and not the super smooth tarmac you tested on, as would be the noise after an hours driving. If you want to just compare race car specials thats a different test for me , and quite frankly there is no way, nor reason, that the Emira can compete with cars costing 3-4 times as much …
spot on
Comparing the Emira to cars 3-4 times the price really shows how good the Emira is to have made it into this test. Despite it being a pre production car, its a risk lotus took by lending the car out to car margazine for review. 4RS Is just over 30% more expensive, 76K to 108K. Options don't make a car any more fun or exciting, which is the point of this test, and totally irrelevant.
This needs to be the top comment
@@primepremium5504 of course options make a difference when comparing specs and "liveability", the only people they don't matter too are those with so much money they don't care, or Car road testers .
The whole tone was smug boys acting like they own these cars, something like snobby waiters trying to act sophisticated 😂
Love the MC 20, the most beautiful of all
Awesome video, well done chaps. Disappointed the Lotus didn't shine, but Mother of God, that 765 LT is a Monster!
Thanks! Lotus’ time will come, we suspect. Just needs a bit more polishing.
@@pistonburner6448 I understand China better than most, as I own a business in Singapore, with clients in China and we have operations in Asia, the US and Europe. I'm disappointed for the UK-based engineering and manufacturing teams at Lotus, in that their product still needs some ironing out. But there's huge potential for them with the Emira. The new owners have certainly put more investment into Hethel than the previous mob from Malaysia. China is not the perfect place, absolutely not, however from their perspective, they've had years of exploitation from western countries using them for sweat shop, low cost manufacturing. If you don't want to be associated with China, good luck purchasing any product, not just cars! The west is rightly putting in place measures to limit Chinese investment; the ONS shows Chinese $ into the UK has dramatically declined since 2017 (see a great article in the latest Economist). This needs to continue, but whilst it does, the UK and western countries need to sort themselves out so they can stand on their own two feet and grow organically without reliance from 'others'
Gotta pick the GT4 RS with that engine and the icing on top is you know it's going to work... can't say the same for McLaren products
I don’t understand why you’ve done this comparison.
You’ve compared a Lotus Emira pre-production sports car to a line up of mainly £200k+ super cars.
That’s like comparing a tent to a 5 star hotel room.
You’ve really thrown Lotus under a bus with this review. Very unfair!
I’m slightly bias 😂 I have an Emira first edition arriving imminently in October.
So you chose a winner out of four cars to be the McLaren which closets £230,000 MORE than the Lotus.
Why even put the Lotus in the test? Nobody shopping for the McKLaren with its hideous depreciations and running costs would even look at the Emira.
Kinda pointless guys. Ditto the Ferrari.
LOL, Have you seen used 765 lt prices? Depreciation? Are you silly?
The GT4RS is the Best car on this Planet for me 🥰
Nahh. Carrera gt>>>>>
NA v10 with a manual is just unbeatable. I think only the mclaren f1 can top it.
I would have picked the McLaren too! Shame no raging bull, I'm interested to see how the Ultimae or Tecnica compare.
Great reviews, superb cinematography!
Tbh i think these new baby cars would srsly take it to an aventador let alone an huracan. Its rly time for lamborghini to release some new models. But the ultimae line of cars signals the end for the aventador and huracan lines i think.
Last gen Lambo's are too slow and can't compete with hybrid Ferrari's, McLaren's and the Plaid. You'll have to wait next year for the hybrid lambo's
@@larryc1616 they have one you can buy right now don't they? The Sian
@@larssonk22 no, it's limited/sold out, cost millions and the buyers don't race them but keep them as garage queens. ever see any drag strip or track times? i'm talking about the 1000hp hybrid aventator successor about 600K.
Lotus love being the underdog, but my word you have certainly thrown them under the bus on this comparison.
Right? Let’s compare this new pre-production sports car with these best in class supercars… then moan it’s not as exciting 🤔 care to mention the Lotus is less than half the price? Incredible car for the money!
A worthy winner in my opinion. I knew it would be between the 4rs and the LT. The 296 "fun to drive" as ferrari called it is just to tame and so much suited to city driving. For a good twisty road i would definetly choose between the lt and the 4rs
And you have driven a 296GTB?
Convertible supercar sports cars usually create the biggest smile especially on a travel roundup test and rightly so.
All great supercar sports cars and a great review by “CAR”. Thank you from america! Enjoyed the review tremendously
Says the guy who's never sat behind the wheel of one.
@ $375K the 675 is clearly on another league. Personally, I would be more than happy with the GT4 RS
OMG this is the comparison I was waiting for, thanks guys for the amazing video
765lt is on a different level to any of the others in practically every way.
It costs a lot more tho
@@gido.thom1 yep, worth it though
@@stefanroseEP3 id much rather get the gt3 and buy a house as well
@@gido.thom1 that's great, but people who own these cars aren't buying 100k houses, someone who owns a 765 probably has a GT3 as well.
The sound alone makes the Porsche the best
I didn't expect the 765lt Spider to be as special as it is. On paper it just looks like a marginal stat improvement on the already fabulous 720, but there is something intangibly special about it. It was awesome seeing you guys getting the same reaction from it!
Having owned both, I’d say the 765LT Spider is like a completely different car to the (excellent) 720S. It’s also easily the best car McLaren Automotive have ever made.
The fact that the GT4 RS is a "contender" to a car that cost more than double the price in my eyes makes the GT4 RS the winner.
Congrats to Ferrari for the absolute ugliest spec ever fitted to a road car. Off to puke now.
765LT is amazing but if my £ likely I’d go for the Porsche ❤ Great video Chris and James - movie quality ☝️🎯💥
Awesome video! For the entire 41 minutes, I never touched the fast forward button once. It's just so well done from start to finish. Thank you CAR!!
Thank you so much. That's really kind of you!
@@CARmagazineTV Keep up the great work!!
That was entertaining. Enjoyed your enthusiasm. Currently enjoying my 718 Spyder. Also have a Miata. One day maybe the 765. I just love the 2 seater roadster with no pretension as a four seater. The minivan will do for the family trips!
Thank you! Love a Miata 😍😍
Which car has three pedals? That one wins. It's also the only car I could ever hope to attain money wise.
The only two cars that are even close to being similar on this list are the GT4RS and the 296. The Lotus is barely $100k and the McLaren is at least $100k more than than the Porsche & Ferrari
A great review, you obviously enjoyed this roadtrip test. I’m a Porsche nut, so I don’t need to tell you which one I would go for. And numbers aren’t essential to me. What you feel and enjoy at the wheel is. But all of these cars must be a treat. So is the fact that this is how you lot are earning your living ! Well done !
Thanks!
Wonderful group of cars. I would have a tough time choosing between the Lotus & GT4RS. I thought the color combo on that Ferrari was in poor taste. It does not look good to my eyes.
That color combo is a historic livery..
@@HKFIJIHK its still spectacularly ugly. As if some teen tagged it overnight
@@rocket06 how dare you. Lol
The paint job on the Ferrari is DISGUSTING! How did they let a car leave the factory like that?
@Health is wealth I’m aware, but not everything needs to have a tribute. Their two tone pain styles have completely turned me off to their cars.
I agree with Ewan Singleton’s comment below. As further support: The ‘cheapest’ USED 2022 765LT on sale in the US goes for a mere $750K. Next ‘cheapest’: $860K. Even with the max dealer markup I’ve found (an astonishing $100K), with every performance option (Weissach package, ceramics, mag wheels), a new 2023 (not 2022) GT4RS costs less than 40% of the ‘cheapie’. It’s an instant classic, has one of the best normally aspirated engines ever built, and has received white-hot reviews by all major auto magazines and online sites. I am skeptical that the McLaren is better in terms of pure driving experience, but if it is it very well should be.
In addition, if you can find a better, more passionate, more technologically proficient groups of automotive engineers and designers than Andreas Preuninger and his team please let me know who they are.
But the McLaren was a V8, Doesn´t it belong to another list? and also there is a certain feeling that you acctually are McLaren fans, Sorry but you couldn´t hide it too much.
why they throw at 765 in that group? You ran the top of the line mclaren but ran a gt4 and 296 and not gt2 rs or a sf90?
The Lotus looks better than a baby McLaren, has a manual gearbox and Toyota reliability. Plus, we know how good that engine sounds in the Evora GT410 Sport, so an exhaust will transform it. Its absolutely where my money would go!
I love their enthusiasm and presentation. They can make driving a ford pinto exciting.
Yeah let's put the 765lt against the Lotus. Great comparison guys. Next you should do a VW Beetle against a P1.
Beetle didn’t launch the same year as the P1, unlike the Emira and 765LT Spider 🙄
Gt4 rs is the best car there! Not even a contest! Best track performance, most thrilling, most race car experience, the sound is incredible, perfect chassis, best brakes, best gearbox, the price is decent for what it is, na engine, 9000 rpm, roll chage, perfect seats for driving hard, best stearing. The most reliable. Also is the last caymam rs and the first. The next one is Ev.
Best group test ever. Has there ever been a better collection of cars in one place before? No duds!
The 992 gt3 review was art, and the reverence for the car apparently sincere. Has the 4RS truly eclipsed it? Who wins that comparo?
Porsche sounds more Ferrari than a Ferrari, awesome. Italians have lost their edge.
so the winner of a sports car test is a 350k supercar with far more then claimed power and that breaks all the time. Riiiight
The thing is there’s really no point going fast on back roads. Too many blind corners and no runoff areas. Maybe I’m just getting old. All I need is a manual inexpensive car with about 300hp and have some carefree fun.
well said
The 765 LT isn't even a fair comparison to make to all these other V6 hybrid etc models. For one the 765 is 2-3X the price of these cars and in a different segment. Also the 765 is a limited production car and extremely hard to get. As stated by others, this was a good comparison until the end.
A good review, yet where do you draw the line between what is a sports car and a super car?
It would be extremely embarrassing for McLaren if their 330k car wasn’t the best?
Clearly, the real “sports car” winner is the GT4RS. At 110k, it will be the car that goes straight to the “classics” hall of fame. Has there been a single review of the LT where its reported as a “once in a generation” or “only once in ten years…” type comments?
Of course not. And while the McLaren has its day in the sun, its praise will quickly fade into obscurity, while the GT$RS becomes legendary.
If you want to compare apples, may I suggest the 992 911 GT3RS :)
I agree with everything you said
GT4RS is not 110k, I looked into getting one, with all the mark ups it's almost twice as much.
GT4s is not a touch on the Mclaren and the GT4s is slower and not as dynamic though it's a great car it's ugly. The Mclaren is more expensive but you get what you pay for well done Mclaren!
Its funny how they compare LT spider to the 296 and gt4rs both 6 cylinders. why not add the sf90 spider? if performance was the test, the lt doesnt beat the sf90.
People say that every porsche goes to the "classics hall" of fame. Before the GT4RS there was the GT4, both using bastardized 911 engines. For a car to be truly classic it cant be a parts bin car. No offense, Porsche make some absolute bangers, but is the GT4RS better than a GT3? Or a GT3RS? Is the 991.2 really better than the 991.1? Was the normal porsches steering 10 years ago better than the electric steering now?
The Only truly game changing car porsche has made in the last 10 years is the 918.
I love the Ferrari 296!!
Awesome car 👌
For me they re in different leagues. Maybe the ferrari with the LT, but rest of all together. For its price...Lt and Gt4 winners. Very nice review anyway loving it!
Blue with the red is god awful
Straight up banging episode lads👌🏻 And what a bloody marvellous landscape. Long live the Queen etc. Enough with the Britishness 😂 Cheers🥂
I’d still take the lotus based on the fact that it has a manual.
Can’t argue with that tbf
@@pistonburner6448 And McLaren is a Bahraini product then? Neither car is built or designed outside of England.
"Road trip to determine which car is best". I'm not sure I fully understood the criterial for that statement. Both the 765 and GT4RS are race cars masquerading as street vehicles. On UK roads both would be the wrong tool for the job in a daily driver environment. The MC20 and Lotus would shine in that environment but lose in big fashion at the track. The Ferrari might be the best to handle both street and track situations.
I’m sorry but in as much as the Ferrari paint scheme hacks back to a time past...that red/blue combo on the 296 isn’t easy on the eye at all
How gorgeous is the MC20 in comparison to the 296? I love the rear 3/4 of the 296 but it's just ugly from the front. The MC20 with a MC12 livery would be my choice I think, would need the OPF's removed though to get some better sound out of it... or the Lotus and pay off my house :P :P
Let’s not forget that the lotus looks like it’s gonna be a pussy slayer for 1/3rd of the price!! Imagine having a Ferrari for that price (no women is gonna know the difference between Ferrari, lambo, or Mclaren. They just see expensive sports car)
i will take the cayman thank you
Good choice! Incredible car…
I'd love any of those with the exception of the Lotus, in this company it looks outclassed in every department. For me, the one that offers the best combination of performance, desirability, and of being obtainable would be the Maserati.
It's a lot cheaper than the other cars though
@@TheHesK9 but when has cheapness been a measure of how good a sports car is, lol. It's a great car, but just not as great as the other I'm afraid 😕
@@paulspensley1094 I never said it was. But it's like comparing an Audi RS3 with a Dacia Sandero. It's not gonna be as good because it's not competing with any of these cars. Only the Cayman is similar but even then thr GT4 RS is 2 levels up. The Emira is built to rival a GTS
@@TheHesK9 problem is, that it lost that Lotus vibe. Now it's a sports car like many others just look at how much it weights compared to previous generations
@@mstrax0258 it also still has hydraulic steering and double wishbones front and rear. Name another competing car that has that
As soon as I saw the 765LT I knew it was going to win. It is the best in terms of overall driving experience and that's what this test was.
Italian Car 👍
Can't take my eyes off that paint scheme ..... Not a fan
Great group test, really enjoyed it so thanks very much 😎👍🏼
Glad you enjoyed
GT4 RS all the way. And thanks for a great review! 👍🏼😎🍻
Thanks!
Your know what's beautiful? A Porsche Sport steering wheel from 2012 with exactly ZERO buttons, ahhhhh so good. No fisher price iPad either. Heavenly
Ferrari colour I thought was an awful combo, for me the gt4rs or the maclaren, are just beautiful
Nice Seiko!
I’d have the Ferrari because it’s a Ferrari. Great review with awesome cinematography 🤓
Sadly soon all combustion cars and trucks including classics will be banned from public streets in entire EU and Scandinavia :-(
In Germany the Green Peoples Party gave order to shorten fuel supply from 2025
on by reducing all conventional fuel stations to only one state operated central gas station per city or county. Car washs will be forbidden too because they are climate killers, now they want to slow down all the gas station pumps from 20 litre per minute to 2 litre per minute...From 2027 on in the EU certain car spare parts will be banned too....as exhaust systems, turbo chargers and even some engine and gearbox oils...California and New York will do the same from 2027 on.... So no investments should be done in oil burning cars any longer....They even created a new kind of crime here, called emissions and smoke crime. (BABVVEN & TEBBVEN & BEFVO laws)!!!!!
Gt4rs got my heart ❤️
I love these giant tests. Well done!
i like how they didn't even mention the maserati in the verdict segment. lol.
It was very good, but wasn’t quite top 3 in the voting 👌
A nice long form vid - thank you. 😊👍🏻
Thanks Rob - glad you enjoyed it!
18:05 you're not sure whether that's a Maserati character? Is the press car breaking down not enough to showcase its heritage? 😭
Not quite fair with the McLaren, buuutttt it would be the one I'd choose out of this group, the gt4rs would be next, the lotus, and then the 296.
I really enjoyed this review and the setting is beautiful. The only disappointment is that the Emira delivered for the test has the touring suspension and tires.
Glad you enjoyed the review!
For me, this one has to be a three way tie between the Emira, the 296, the GT4 RS.
Amazing test! My favourite the 718 GT4 RS!
Emira and mc20 are they built on the same chassis/body? Looks very alike
Will the 2023 C8 Z06 be enough to make the cut into the group next year i
Very worthy winner. 765LT Spider is the best car I’ve ever driven 👌🏽
Have you driven the GT4RS?
Am I the only one who is going to comment on the goat right before the Porsche? Yes, the Porsche did not take top spot, but it is for all intents and purposes one of the greatest of all times, and I can see a bit of romanticism or nostalgia wanting to just remind us how great it is. Could I be reading between the proverbial lines??
Porsche all day. People who haven't driven a cayman have no idea of the balance.
I agree the 765 is amazing
between the cayman and evora it seems the cayman is set up to handle really well, at maximum potential while the evora can be a starting point for a much better handling by tuning the suspension and choosing better tires even a bit wider if it allows, at least that’s by looking at the suspension type. Maybe it’s meant to come in entry level tuneup
I’d easily choose the GT4RS.
Why does it seem like Ferrari's have lost their looks recently. They use to be WOW cars. The 765 LT is so hot and fast, but give me the Rock Star of the group, the Porsche GT4 RS with its symphony of naturally aspirated sound dialed up to 11. Drive it like you stole it and she will say thank you sir can I have some more.
Agree entirely. It says something that I'm not even sure which model I'm looking at these days. The design language is all over the place, and they've certainly lost their elegance.
The 765LT is on a different level so CAR should make a comparison against the SF90, SVJ, GT2 RS, but hilarious that the Cayman GT4RS is still the peoples favorite 😂
Would be worth taking a vote if everyone who’s commented could actually drive the cars 😉 Sadly we can’t make that happen, though. 😢
Get the Emira with track pack and the Dunlop tyres, you then also get suspension tweeks like more tow in.
GT4 RS, Hands down! But not because it is brilliant. Best reliability, less of a show off in this crowd, more dealers and easier to service. As the saying goes drive an Italian car but never own one. And for the McLaren well, I live in the US and the service availability is limited. On the Ferrari specifically, it is complex and that color is horrible! Thanks for the great review!