The AXE feature, of AUTO drag brake, was one of the main reasons for me to go for AXE instead of Castle. Recently bought my second AXE. I'm very satisfied with this system. Thanks for sharing this comparison, Francis.
Castle has an auto drag brake... you select the ramping speed and it engages the drag brake based off the motors speed and ramping effect. ie, crawling it instantly engages the drag brake, but at high speed in low gear it gradually ramps up the drag brake and actually brakes very close to how I would naturally... I use slow for 11t pinion and medium for 13t pinion. Then, when I shift into high gear the drag brake is disabled along with instant reverse and I now have full control over the brakes. The drag brake functionality along with excellent motor options, such as my hh puller pro 2700kv and puller pro r 4100kv rmotors that have insanely good torque modulation and smooth startup, is the reason why I went with the mamba x. For $10 more I got the mamba x and puller pro 2700kv setup. Oh, I also forgot to mention the expo throttle and brake curves. Really makes a great motor/esc combo into an exceptional one.
The ability to full stop was the reason I went with the AXE.. AFAIK no other system has been able to reproduce the full park feature of the AXE. Not only that but the amazing transition from Fully Parking to start and stop is simply jaw dropping, Incredibly smooth and consistent 100% of the times.
@@skirmich not sure if you ever owned a castle Mamba X but I was under the assumption ithe drag brake couldnt hold a truck still on hill, let me put it to you this way Never Believe what you read online. My Gen 8 crawler weighs in at 11.9 lbs with 2.2 wheels when I have my drag brake set full on it will hold my truck all day 2 ways til Sunday at any incline you can find. like I said after listening to & reading all the nonsense online I was worried the brake was very weak & nimble bu my goodness is that a bunch BS!! matter of fact I accidentally forgot to turn the brake down one day & I was cruising along going as fast as a Brushless crawler goes & when I let off the throttle the truck flipped 2 or 3 times head over hills. so don't believe what you read & hear online but one yourself & try it out & if you did own one & it wouldn't do that then send it in for repair or figure out your settings.. 🤘🏼
Latest beta firmware 2.06 on Mamba X allows “Drag Brake Ramp” similar to auto drag brake on Axe system. I just updated today noticed it in my castle link on PC.
I use HW AXE with Auto in a TRX-6 and TRX- Sport. Workes really well but I will play a bit more with the drag brake force as soon as I get red of some snow and can start trailing and serious crawling.
Those are both really cool features!!! I actually like what the AXE does a little more with its Drag Brakes. Except my Wraith, everything's Brushed... Purely financial reasons. Please stay SAFE! 😷 Carmine ✈🚂🚙
I'd agree with you based off RC Reviews review, but he didn't paint the full picture. It has the same auto drag brake feature, but RC Review is running 3 year old firmware that doesn't have the drag brake ramp setting. It instantly holds when crawling at low speed and ramps the drag brake when the rig is moving faster. It also allows the drag brake to be proportionally removed using the throttle. So descending hills grabbing more throttle releases the drag brake more and more until it goes into a neutral roll state, then give a little more throttle and it will send power to the motor. This completely eliminates the need to adjust drag brake percentage. RC Review isn't even utilizing the aux wire to its best ability. With a 2 speed rig you can have 1 gear have the ramping drag brake that is so easy to modulate and the other gear have no instantaneous reverse and no drag brake so you have full control over throttle and brake for high speeds. If you care about crawling and what motor esc equipment to choose, then you should check out holmes hobbies youtube page. That guy is an encyclopedia for everything to do with these motors and setups, and engineers his own motors. I run his motors and they're amazing how "brushed" like they act, but with far more torque and rpm brushless brings. www.rccrawler.com/forum/electronics/602993-castle-mamba-firmware-vs-2-06-new-ramped-drag-brake.html
I set my aux wire to racer/crawler. Brake ramp to med. One position is crawler mode instant full drag instant rev. Middle position delayed drag med ramping brakes and no instant rev Position 3 no drag no instant rev Just regular brakes.
I have castle Mamba X w/ HH Puller Pro 3500kv 540 connected to a flyskygt5. I use channel 6 twist knob to adjust my brake according to whatever Im doing... Great Vid Francis..... 👍🏼
I have 4274 sized 2300kv brushless sensored motor in my SCX10.2 Rubicon, I am using 100% always, because rig is around 7kg, so even when bashing you need all the brakes to stop. It does not even try to flip due the weight :D
Brushless is the alpha for sure. I have a new mamba x slate 3800 in my trx4 and it’s amazing for everything! Also have the grc Ackerman and that is one of the best things I’ve done also. Great vid as always keep it up sir 👍✌️😎
Are you running the 2.06 firmware? If you are you don't have to power off/power on the esc to make changes and it will have a drag brake ramp selection...
Hey guys, what's a good brushless motor to pair with the Mamba X that is excellent for crawling as well as bashing? I don't need it to go 30-40 mph or pop wheelies all the time. I need a setup that is similar to the HW Xerun Axe FOC 550 2700kv.
Does 200% drag brake on the AXE make a difference? For me, once it gets a little past 100, there really isn't a difference. 200 is like rock solid. I don't do too many hill crawls though, mostly level rocky terrain. Can you feel the difference?
I use the hobbywing axe. I put the drag increase rate at 1. It’s a bit jerky on auto when letting off. Also have the drag break set to 70% which is plenty for the trx4 sport. Loving the hobbywing
Gotta get a crawler first, but I do have some experience with the Mamba X and love the advance aux wire features though I've only messed around with them in both my Summit and Yeti XL, though I will eventually get a dedicated crawler. Though out here in AZ, I think I prefer brushless (even if I have to go sensored), might not be as smooth as a brushed in the very low range, but they seem more efficient, and the ones I've used seem better protected against all the dust we have out here.
Thank you for your videos. Once you make all the configuration changes in the Mamba X using the BlueTooth link, do you need to keep the link connected to the receiver or once the configurations are done, you can remove it? Thank you for your advice.
This is very informative. Thank you. I have an Axial bomber and have struggled setting the drag brake. I have a castle mamba monster esc in it. Now I know how to set the brake for both high speed runs and switch to instant brake. Thank you
Still trying to learn all this. For now ive been using nimh batteries on my trx4 and 6. When i get more experienced I'll switch to 3s. Along with a better esc. It looks like the axe seems to be the one.
I use the Mamba micro x with a 3000KV acis six in my TRX4 Sport ,but i am not very happy with the dragbrake today 50% (moves it self in extreme steep angles) maybe i try 100% next.
4:16 your castle link app is missing the drag brake ramp setting... In my experience the ramping works instantaneously at low speeds on rocks, no rolling back or forward, but ramps up the brake when traveling at high rpm. Maybe update your firmware... **edit: version 2.06 adds drag brake ramp and doesn't require powering off and on to update settings. I've been running this firmware since day 1 of having the mamba x without issue and it's 1.5 years old so any issues would be apparent.
I believe that the drag brake ramp is only adjustable on advanced settings on pc only. Not through Bluetooth. I'm not 100% on this but Holmes did a video not long ago and sure he mentioned this. Cheers mate 👍
@@mickd8188 It's definitely adjustable through the mobile application under basic settings. here is a demo from my phone th-cam.com/video/aci_zw0KWco/w-d-xo.html
@@KTMcaptain Hey thanks mate, I'm certainly not an expert on Castle link and will save you footage for sure as I do want to try a mamba x... I'm using an axe system and really happy with it but definitely want to try the castle with a puller pro. Once again good info. Cheers 👍
I am willing to pay $40 for a hobbywing 1080 to get the benefits of a better bec and improved modulation. I just not at the level of needing a brushless yet.
It would just be stronger drag brake. The auto feature is basically how fast the drag brake activates, i.e., going slow drag brake kicks in fast, going fast drag brake comes on slower
Discovered this channel yesterday and have to save you answer a lot of the questions novices like me want to know the answer to in a clear and concise manner. Keep up the great work!
Thanks for the informative video. I'm using the Hobbywing 1080. Still trying to figure out how I want it set up. Right now it's at 100%, but as you said that can be too much for certain situations. I'll need to fiddle around with it for a while. Wish me luck. :)
What type of crawling do you want to do? trail and rock/ just trail/ just rock... is sand, water, mud, or pedestrians a factor? Reason why I went with the trx6 is that it does everything reasonably well. It can crawl up there with expensive rigs, then it can unlock the drivetrain and shift to high gear and bomb trails.
Your budget should dictate your first. Gen8, 10.2, trx4, Element, Vaterra... there's models from 270 to 550 in each brand. For trailing, their all great. For comping, watch some more TH-cam vids of comps. The aftermarket is strong in all models mentioned, as well. Customer service, redcat set the bar.
He who dies with the most RC... wins
The AXE feature, of AUTO drag brake, was one of the main reasons for me to go for AXE instead of Castle.
Recently bought my second AXE. I'm very satisfied with this system.
Thanks for sharing this comparison, Francis.
Castle has an auto drag brake... you select the ramping speed and it engages the drag brake based off the motors speed and ramping effect. ie, crawling it instantly engages the drag brake, but at high speed in low gear it gradually ramps up the drag brake and actually brakes very close to how I would naturally... I use slow for 11t pinion and medium for 13t pinion.
Then, when I shift into high gear the drag brake is disabled along with instant reverse and I now have full control over the brakes.
The drag brake functionality along with excellent motor options, such as my hh puller pro 2700kv and puller pro r 4100kv rmotors that have insanely good torque modulation and smooth startup, is the reason why I went with the mamba x. For $10 more I got the mamba x and puller pro 2700kv setup. Oh, I also forgot to mention the expo throttle and brake curves. Really makes a great motor/esc combo into an exceptional one.
The ability to full stop was the reason I went with the AXE.. AFAIK no other system has been able to reproduce the full park feature of the AXE. Not only that but the amazing transition from Fully Parking to start and stop is simply jaw dropping, Incredibly smooth and consistent 100% of the times.
@@skirmich not sure if you ever owned a castle Mamba X but I was under the assumption ithe drag brake couldnt hold a truck still on hill, let me put it to you this way Never Believe what you read online. My Gen 8 crawler weighs in at 11.9 lbs with 2.2 wheels when I have my drag brake set full on it will hold my truck all day 2 ways til Sunday at any incline you can find. like I said after listening to & reading all the nonsense online I was worried the brake was very weak & nimble bu my goodness is that a bunch BS!! matter of fact I accidentally forgot to turn the brake down one day & I was cruising along going as fast as a Brushless crawler goes & when I let off the throttle the truck flipped 2 or 3 times head over hills. so don't believe what you read & hear online but one yourself & try it out & if you did own one & it wouldn't do that then send it in for repair or figure out your settings.. 🤘🏼
Brushed 100% drag brake for crawling only!
Latest beta firmware 2.06 on Mamba X allows “Drag Brake Ramp” similar to auto drag brake on Axe system. I just updated today noticed it in my castle link on PC.
still no auto mode
I think the AXE has a stronger drag brake than mamba x. But the remote adjustment feature of castle is awesome
I use HW AXE with Auto in a TRX-6 and TRX- Sport. Workes really well but I will play a bit more with the drag brake force as soon as I get red of some snow and can start trailing and serious crawling.
Those are both really cool features!!! I actually like what the AXE does a little more with its Drag Brakes.
Except my Wraith, everything's Brushed... Purely financial reasons.
Please stay SAFE! 😷
Carmine ✈🚂🚙
I'd agree with you based off RC Reviews review, but he didn't paint the full picture. It has the same auto drag brake feature, but RC Review is running 3 year old firmware that doesn't have the drag brake ramp setting. It instantly holds when crawling at low speed and ramps the drag brake when the rig is moving faster.
It also allows the drag brake to be proportionally removed using the throttle. So descending hills grabbing more throttle releases the drag brake more and more until it goes into a neutral roll state, then give a little more throttle and it will send power to the motor. This completely eliminates the need to adjust drag brake percentage.
RC Review isn't even utilizing the aux wire to its best ability. With a 2 speed rig you can have 1 gear have the ramping drag brake that is so easy to modulate and the other gear have no instantaneous reverse and no drag brake so you have full control over throttle and brake for high speeds.
If you care about crawling and what motor esc equipment to choose, then you should check out holmes hobbies youtube page. That guy is an encyclopedia for everything to do with these motors and setups, and engineers his own motors. I run his motors and they're amazing how "brushed" like they act, but with far more torque and rpm brushless brings.
www.rccrawler.com/forum/electronics/602993-castle-mamba-firmware-vs-2-06-new-ramped-drag-brake.html
I set my aux wire to racer/crawler.
Brake ramp to med.
One position is crawler mode instant full drag instant rev.
Middle position delayed drag med ramping brakes and no instant rev
Position 3 no drag no instant rev
Just regular brakes.
Very nice. Thank you for the info.
Brushed just because of price. But I hope to get an axe system for my trx6 soon. Great video
If there's one vehicle that could benefit the most from a brushless, it's the TRX-6
I have castle Mamba X w/ HH Puller Pro 3500kv 540 connected to a flyskygt5. I use channel 6 twist knob to adjust my brake according to whatever Im doing... Great Vid Francis..... 👍🏼
I like brushed for how you can mess with the motor machanical wise and there just cool
I have 4274 sized 2300kv brushless sensored motor in my SCX10.2 Rubicon, I am using 100% always, because rig is around 7kg, so even when bashing you need all the brakes to stop. It does not even try to flip due the weight :D
Awesome vid and review as always sir 👍🏻💯🤜🤛
Much appreciated
I love My HobbyWing Axe that Auto Drag Brake is the Best
It is crazy good technology and makes the Axe even more compelling for the trx4 and trx6
For the castle mamba what's the best setup to remove DB using stock remote on a trx6? Thanks
Brushless is the alpha for sure. I have a new mamba x slate 3800 in my trx4 and it’s amazing for everything! Also have the grc Ackerman and that is one of the best things I’ve done also. Great vid as always keep it up sir 👍✌️😎
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The Ackerman you mention. Seemed cool till it’s shipped from China. 🤷♂️✌️
Are you running the 2.06 firmware? If you are you don't have to power off/power on the esc to make changes and it will have a drag brake ramp selection...
Everything brushless everything castle there awesome!
Now I need to know if you can do this with a tekin setup.
Thank you. I'm going to order the axe esc and 550 for my next build.
Good choice! It works great with 2-speed systems and heavy vehicles.
Hey guys, what's a good brushless motor to pair with the Mamba X that is excellent for crawling as well as bashing? I don't need it to go 30-40 mph or pop wheelies all the time. I need a setup that is similar to the HW Xerun Axe FOC 550 2700kv.
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Thanks for sharing,, 👌💯
Does 200% drag brake on the AXE make a difference? For me, once it gets a little past 100, there really isn't a difference. 200 is like rock solid. I don't do too many hill crawls though, mostly level rocky terrain. Can you feel the difference?
I use the hobbywing axe. I put the drag increase rate at 1. It’s a bit jerky on auto when letting off. Also have the drag break set to 70% which is plenty for the trx4 sport. Loving the hobbywing
What is you opinión about radiolink rc6gs transmitter?
The review is coming soon.
Gotta get a crawler first, but I do have some experience with the Mamba X and love the advance aux wire features though I've only messed around with them in both my Summit and Yeti XL, though I will eventually get a dedicated crawler. Though out here in AZ, I think I prefer brushless (even if I have to go sensored), might not be as smooth as a brushed in the very low range, but they seem more efficient, and the ones I've used seem better protected against all the dust we have out here.
Thank you for your videos. Once you make all the configuration changes in the Mamba X using the BlueTooth link, do you need to keep the link connected to the receiver or once the configurations are done, you can remove it? Thank you for your advice.
Amazing review
Another helpfull video!
This is very informative. Thank you. I have an Axial bomber and have struggled setting the drag brake. I have a castle mamba monster esc in it. Now I know how to set the brake for both high speed runs and switch to instant brake. Thank you
What about with a stock controller for the trx4 defender and the mamba x? How do you use the auxiliary wire?
Still trying to learn all this. For now ive been using nimh batteries on my trx4 and 6. When i get more experienced I'll switch to 3s. Along with a better esc. It looks like the axe seems to be the one.
Great project i really enjoyed it,and i know that your next project will also be great
I use the Mamba micro x with a 3000KV acis six in my TRX4 Sport ,but i am not very happy with the dragbrake today 50% (moves it self in extreme steep angles) maybe i try 100% next.
you have the drag brake set to 50% and your unhappy that it still rolls in "extreme steep angles"???? WTF are you expecting?
4:16 your castle link app is missing the drag brake ramp setting... In my experience the ramping works instantaneously at low speeds on rocks, no rolling back or forward, but ramps up the brake when traveling at high rpm. Maybe update your firmware...
**edit: version 2.06 adds drag brake ramp and doesn't require powering off and on to update settings. I've been running this firmware since day 1 of having the mamba x without issue and it's 1.5 years old so any issues would be apparent.
I believe that the drag brake ramp is only adjustable on advanced settings on pc only. Not through Bluetooth.
I'm not 100% on this but Holmes did a video not long ago and sure he mentioned this.
Cheers mate 👍
@@mickd8188 It's definitely adjustable through the mobile application under basic settings.
here is a demo from my phone
th-cam.com/video/aci_zw0KWco/w-d-xo.html
Thank you. I thought I saw that before and could not find it this time!
@@KTMcaptain Hey thanks mate, I'm certainly not an expert on Castle link and will save you footage for sure as I do want to try a mamba x... I'm using an axe system and really happy with it but definitely want to try the castle with a puller pro. Once again good info.
Cheers 👍
@@RCReviewChannel definitely try it. Would be nice to see a comparison of the ramp vs auto modes, and its just another feature to the mamba x
GREAT INFO AS always. I am immediately gonna go set my drag break to auto now on my axe system.
Glad to help
Does the 3300kv Hobbywing fits to my SCX10 II? Thanks a lot, have a nice day!
Yes!
What is the difference between V1 and V2 versions?
I am willing to pay $40 for a hobbywing 1080 to get the benefits of a better bec and improved modulation. I just not at the level of needing a brushless yet.
The 1080 is so good that most don't end up needing brushless. Such a big price jump from the 1080
For the Axe doesn't the drag brake go to 200%? What would be the benefit of running 200 over 80 while still on auto?
It would just be stronger drag brake. The auto feature is basically how fast the drag brake activates, i.e., going slow drag brake kicks in fast, going fast drag brake comes on slower
I am new, I am considering the axe
Is that auto feature only on the 550 or os it on the 540 as well?
Discovered this channel yesterday and have to save you answer a lot of the questions novices like me want to know the answer to in a clear and concise manner. Keep up the great work!
Welcome aboard! Our goal is to understand to try and explain clearly
I have a brushed system-right now but really looking into getting a castle mamba x for my trx4 sport... don’t know which one to go with 🤷🏼♂️
This is the standard. Mamba X and Slate 2200kv snp.link/bd0ee995
RC Review thanks buddy!!
RC Review how is the micro version? Is it about the same just smaller lol
Thanks for the informative video. I'm using the Hobbywing 1080. Still trying to figure out how I want it set up. Right now it's at 100%, but as you said that can be too much for certain situations. I'll need to fiddle around with it for a while. Wish me luck. :)
Check or 1080 guide th-cam.com/video/BMjtsGJlYVM/w-d-xo.html
I'll do that thanks
Love my HW axe 550 2700kv....
Hi your videos are the best
Cool!
Thanks for sharing!
I was looking at crawlers, what do you think the best crawler is for any experience
What type of crawling do you want to do? trail and rock/ just trail/ just rock... is sand, water, mud, or pedestrians a factor?
Reason why I went with the trx6 is that it does everything reasonably well. It can crawl up there with expensive rigs, then it can unlock the drivetrain and shift to high gear and bomb trails.
Your budget should dictate your first.
Gen8, 10.2, trx4, Element, Vaterra... there's models from 270 to 550 in each brand.
For trailing, their all great. For comping, watch some more TH-cam vids of comps.
The aftermarket is strong in all models mentioned, as well.
Customer service, redcat set the bar.
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Excellent!
Glad you liked it!