GPD Win Max 2 Review - Is the Steam Deck being challenged so soon?
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- Meet the GPD Win Max 2. A device best received as an all-in-one. Equipped with absolutely incredible components, particularly the CPU and GPU, nothing is missing, even an optional 4G modem is available.
The thought of traveling with this much power is mind-blowing to me, this device breaks new ground. If today is amazing, what awaits tomorrow?
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🕒00:00 Intro
🕒01:03 External Construction
🕒03:29 Internal Construction
🕒07:12 Additional Specs
🕒09:30 Panel Quality
🕒11:03 Performances (vs Steam Deck)
🕒13:22 Audio
🕒14:26 Customizability LC / RC
🕒15:23 Gyroscope
🕒17:38 Comfort
🕒18:51 Conclusion
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From my experience with the win max 2 so far it’s an amazing device but it get a little to heavy when gaming within 30 min. When I have it docked though it get everything I need done. Gaming/work/video editing etc…performance is flawless. Best all in 1 in my opinion. Great Review by the way!
I get what you are saying, you are saying that I am so buff cause I don't have that time limiter of holding it. You are officially my number #1 favorite viewer now! 🤣
All kidding aside though, I loved handhelds the most, but I do constantly move from on my stomach, on my back, on my side, etc... Maybe that's why I don't feel it as much? I can't stay still but that's with every device, phone included.
The best way to enjoy it is laying on your back on a bed or couch. With the unit resting on your stomach. Ive played 2 hour sessions of Terra Invicta like that. Didnt even felt a strain. But yeah, playing it standing up I get you!
Shouldn't you use your lap or the tabletop as a support with this sort of unit?
For one of your first videos, you did an amazing job. Good work.
Thank you greatly! There was a lot of learning but hopefully I can maintain this standard for reviews going forward! :)
Good to know that this device also makes for a decent dinner plate. What a novel idea!
In the next video, we see if it can be used as a diaper changing table! 🤣
@@GameTechTalk the Win Max 2 really does it all 😂
good video! love your takes on the device and now I'm excited to get mine!
Waiting for mine to come hopefully this month! Interested in how the controller works with some older games. I've also seen a few people running steam os, which I'd be interested in seeing more of
I've tested it, it's pretty smooth overall for a beta, quite easy as well. The Phawx covered it on his channel if you are not familiar with his work, great dude! I might include some footage in an upcoming vid though, it's a good idea, thanks for the suggestion!
Edit: Oh and grats on your Win Max 2! You'll love it no doubt! :)
When you're watching a Win Max 2 review on your Win Max 2. 👍
Side note though: I wonder why the USB ports are all upside down? 🤔
Ahaahahaa!!! Great point, it's like WM2 brought me back to a time I thought was almost over, the time when you go to plug your USB, it doesn't so you flip, it doesn't so you flip it again and bam! 😅
thanks for the great review video and repair guide(the other video of him). I usually never comment on youtube - but looks like its worth I add some here.
Wow, thanks!
Thanks for the great video. I got one yesterday. So far it seems great. What I liked especially is the screen. It has very vibrant colors and very clear. So even though the screen is smaller than a typical laptop, you can still read things on it quite easily. The one thing I don’t quite like is that it is heavy. Battery life is OK but won’t last you all day. No problems with any of the high end games I have tried so far.
Thanks for watching! And except the weight, which I find extremely well balanced, just like you I'm quite impressed with the Win Max 2.
For battery life I highly recommend using one of the few TDP apps available. Stock it comes at 25 or 28w TDP. Which sadly the computer will take advantage of any chance it gets. If you set it to something more reasonable, depending on what you are playing. You can get so much more battery time out of it. IE, watching videos or old retro games setting it to 8w or 10w TDP will greatly improve battery time.
I played a game without setting TDP and I noticed it had drained 40% battery in about an hour. Whereas if I set set it to 12w, I get the same experience but the battery will drain only about 20% in the same amount of time.
Great review, and excellent advice at the end!
Thank you, glad it was useful!
congrats on winning the contest!
Thanks, much appreciated!
Mine has finally been sent from a UK distributor over DHL Express, cant wait to get it. And a very nice review.
I can only imagine the excitement! You'll enjoy it for sure. Thanks for the kind words, it means a lot! :)
Top quality content! Keep it up bro!
Thanks for the kind words! Editing as we speak. Cheers :)
I LOVE the 10" screen size
I LOVE having a physical keyboard layout
I LOVE having a clam shell so as to protect the device when closing.
BUT would like to have controllers on the side, full sized buttons and have the screen mid-centered.
A possible solution to have it all:
Do like the GPD Win3
A huge 10" screen that slides up, but this time the screen can also fold down from its hinged to close like a clamshell as well.
The screen can be centered and middle when slid down- aligning very well with the controllers on the sides, but you can always slide it up if you want a top centered screen and to access the physical keyboard.
The device would have to be bigger to get a reasonable keyboard experience, however.
Either the controllers on the side have to be recessed a bit to allow for some covers be put in place if it is to be used like a micro laptop.
# Also don't get rid of Micro-SD support for those of us who to get the overall maximum storage available.
110% MicroSD is wayyyy to important for us. I am at this exact moment working on the next video on the Win Max 2 featuring many PC games and all of them are running off of MicroSD. Unfortunately, I was offered to swap the 2280 to a 2230 but when I received my unit, the swap wasn't done so the drive I had put aside can't be used at the moment.
As for your inputs, you know... I'm not sure if the ergonomic of the Win Max 2 would be as great. I guess I won't know unless a device like you described was to be created by GPD or someone else but I'll say this much, the comfort of the Win Max 2 is one of it's strongest positives, I've gave them high praise on that aspect and I stand by that. It feels as though it would've been so easy to mess it all up. I wouldn't change the setup they have but guess what, I'm SUPER EXCITED for Win 4 and you can be certain that it will be reviewed on this channel! Stay tuned for that one. Cheers and thanks for your support!
I prefer the controls exactly where they are. If they added controllers to the sides, it would be as wide as the Steam Deck and far less portable as a result.
What happens if you're using controller and accidentally press keys? I also like design. It's like a super 3ds
@@Yoko.Kurama It depends on the the game, some games will receive controller and keyboard inputs as the "same" meaning, it won't cause any interruption whatsoever. Some games however do keep inputs on different "lanes" so for example, you are pushing up on your left stick up and hit a keyboard key, it'll stop your controller inputs cause the game thinks you want to change to keyboard inputs.
Meaning you'd have to let go of the stick and push it anew.
Would you say that the touchpad is good enough for text editing? As in selecting text and dragging it. Or is it better to use the "controller?"
Sorry for the delay. I believe so but in a pinch, you can straight up use the touch screen too and since the WM2 is compatible with ePens, you can use that as well. Cheers! :)
19:00 Conclusion: the WM2 is a luxury burger tray
So many talents this Win Max 2! 🤣
thanks man im buying one now!
Very good review. Keep up the uploads and you’ll grow in no time. New sub
That means a lot to me. Thanks!
Great video, thanks! You got a new subscriber!! Keep up the good work.
Awesome, thank you! 😊
I'm stuck in deciding on the WM2 and the Win4. Does the keyboard affect gameplay with the controllers? My laptop is going through overheating issues and the WM2 would be a great alternative as I have a SD but would like more hmph. I'm wondering if I can do laptop things on the Win4 before having to connect to a monitor...
That is such a great question, unfortunately I won't have the GPD Win 4 just yet but rest assured that I will be doing everything in my power to have it ASAP to review it for you all! 😀 Until then, here is what I can tell you. You have the SD and that doesn't fulfill the "laptop" criteria quite right cause you know... no keyboard, no mouse, not natively Windows, etc... So yes, the Win 4 WILL have a keyboard beneath the screen as well as a little nub that can give you "mouse" like functions on the fly. However, the Win 4 having these do not make it a "laptop" but rather, a gaming handheld with QoL features for when you need a quick "laptop-like" solution on the fly. Like... Imagine sitting a Win 4 on a table to type what you just did, it'll be better than a Steam Deck sure, but it won't be anywhere near as pleasant as a laptop either.
So it boils down to this, when you say you want a device to do "laptop" things? Do you mean like operate productivity software? Typing? An elevated browsing experience? If the answer is yes, I don't need to have the GPD Win 4 to tell you that the Win Max 2 is far better tailored for that AND it plays games very well.
On the other hand, if you tell me that by "laptop" things, you mostly mean like watching Netflix, some TH-cam, buying games off of Steam/Epic but mostly playing games 70-80% of the time? Then the GPD Win 4 might be the better device because it is pretty much guaranteed to be the more "gaming" friendly device, the tradeoff is that the "laptop" aspect is not as convenient and/or comfortable.
We also don't know how much the GPD Win 4 will be, considering they crammed so much more in the Win Max 2, I'd expect a more affordable device but that, we should know in a week's time give or take. I hope this helps you. Cheers! :)
@@GameTechTalk This helped me far more than you'll ever know! Thank you for the intuitive response. I'm currently doing some research comparing the specs on both machines and I feel like the WM2 is more my alley, but I'm nervous of holding a "laptop-like" device to play games (mainly emulated) in such a manner I'm not accustomed to. The SD has helped me with my game library as I'm currently catching up on PS2 games and remote play with PS5 and XboxSX (it's just more intuitive playing with Netflix in the background than sitting for gametime when you have two kids and a wife). If my Windows PC hadn't started acting up, I'd definitely get the Win 4 so I dunno. But thank you for your help!
Hey man, can you answer one question for me? Is there screen tearing on the Win Max 2? Seems like I heard you say that in your AyaNeo2 re-review
There is. And I've been a pretty "solo" voice afaik in the fact that I favor portrait panels over landscape specifically for that reason. I'd love to tell you I don't see tearing but no, I very much do.
@@GameTechTalk meaning potrait panels are better if I don’t play older games
@@AugustineKusiDuah-bk4fr In some circumstances at least, it is my personal preference but to each their own right?
I want more GPD win max 2 content from you... and while you're at it, more stuff overall!
Ahahahah! Well the good news is more is coming and overtime, it'll cover a wider gap of consumer electronics too! Thanks for the kind words 😊
dam bro i love your ceiling!!
Ahaha, thanks for noticing!
Thanks for the review, was wondering if the win max 2 could replace my dinner plate as well. Truly an all in one device, cheers
I am glad to know someone else wondered about that very question! Cheers :)
That hamburger looked so realistic that I’m considering buying one
🤣🤣🤣
Was trying to check on whether anyone who has GDP WIN MAX2 have had issues with the touchpad? Mine arrived in November but I can't seem to get the Touchpad to work. It was working for 2 weeks then stopped working. Has done a full driver reinstall and Touchpad firmware update but still no go...
Can't help you much buddy, sorry mine works just fine and never stopped working. Good luck, sorry to hear you're going through this.
I saw your french review yesterday, finally i can understand what you said, cool review anyway, pls could you check in bios if the win max 2 has a secure boot option? it is required to play a few games including FIFA 23, and i wanted to play it on this device when i will get it, maybe you could even try playing FIFA 23 to test the device performance in a next video, if it works
More reviews = more chance to get win 4
- GPD
Sure, I'll add it to the list. I'm hoping to have the "gameplay" video in about a week's time so keep an eye out, I'll feature that title to the list! Cheers :)
@@-fan-6238 Thanks for the heads up! In the meantime, the next review of this type of device should be the Ayaneo 2, stay tuned if you are interested in seeing that! :)
Gpd Win Max 2 vs a Laptop with a 6800u with an external controller? What's the better buy?
The GPD Win Max 2 hands down. Unless I'm crazy, I haven't seen laptops with 6800U that are drastically cheaper to a point that the WM2 is overpriced. And the only viable benefit you "might" find in a laptop over the WM2 is the panel, which still lacks the hardware to push 120hz, 144hz where it would matter.
Ultimately, the only benefit to a better panel would be streaming and it's such a niche market. Yeah, if your after the 6800U first, don't look elsewhere, it is where it's at.
I think your khajit sees a light spot on the ceiling. Great showcase. A very cool mod.
Thanks for the comments! However, I must say you have me confused. Khajit is the cat humanoid in Elder Scrolls. I didn't have my cat yet when I shot this review lol. Yeah, I'm properly confused right now ahahah. Cheers!
@AquaKlef opps. Wrong video. Glad your a skyrim fan.... i mean you totally passed the skyrim test. 10/10.
This just cracked me up ahahahah! Tks friend, you have yourself a great day! 😂
Question, in your opinion is this the best option on the market right now for a portable gaming machine? Compared to others that are out?
Pretty legitimate question and the best answer comes from not the device itself but how you personally approach technology as a whole. I can't be going too deep in a YT response but will indulge nonetheless. There will always be better, so objectively the Win Max 2 is from a "jack of all trades" perspective, the best device that currently exists in it's respective category, in my opinion, at the moment of writing this. I sincerely believe that.
Subjectively? No I can't say that it is. For one, the Steam Deck does offer so many appealing things for a fraction of the cost, does have redeemable (and superior) qualities but also, is a broader device in it's appeal for what it is meant to do first and foremost. And if you are a power user, than the gap with the Win Max 2 heavily reduces, though "quality of life" will take a hit.
So back to "objectively", and now compare the Win Max 2 to a laptop, where size, "pocket" portability, integrated gaming peripherals are no longer subjectively important? The Win Max 2 is easily dethroned by a gaming laptop. The same money spent will net you a 3050Ti with a i7-12700H and a 144hz panel, all that's missing is a game controller.
In many ways, the best answer to your question would be questions, questions such as: "What would you like to do with your device? What would you prioritize? What's the budget?" I know it's a bit broad of an answer but I hope it gives you perspective! 🙂 Thanks for watching!
@@GameTechTalk I understand, thank you for the response. I have a gaming laptop but was looking for more portability and I feel steam deck is awesome but very limited at the same time, for example i can only find videos of people getting MW2 to work with windows on steam deck and that is my main game I love the steam deck just wish it had a bit more support from 3rd party games I guess. Valve has been doing an amazing job with the steam deck, I feel i havent seen another company put so much effort into something like valve has the steam deck which is great but then falls on big game makers to also want to support it which is sort of turning me off ya know.
@@beardedginger9175 Right, and that's where the Steam Deck may not be the best appealing device for you as indeed, Activision will not be bothered with the anti-cheat running natively on the Deck. That's a major hurdle. Ultimately, you'll have to tinker more to play CoD:MW2 on a Steam Deck than you would a Win Max 2. You'll also have (in my opinion) a better experience on a Win Max 2 because you have more flexibility as to how you want to tweak the game to leverage the more powerful hardware that you have to play with.
Last argument, on the Win Max 2, you could easily travel with a BT mouse and quickly pop it out and play kb/m if you so choose. The Steam Deck would have you carry a mouse AND a keyboard to do the exact same thing... See how suddenly the "better" device can so quickly shift? Anyway, one thing to be sure of, the Win Max 2 is a SOLID device. I'm excited for the day that I review a device that isn't, this way people have a spectrum to evaluate my reviews. But I assure you one thing, no matter how wide that spectrum, the Win Max 2 would do very well even if I had done this for 3 years prior. I'm not deceived of the money I spent, not a penny.
@@GameTechTalk Fair enough that answered my question lol thanks again for the reply and amazing video keep up the good work. With videos like this you will for sure go places!
Thanks for making this, man. This awesome video was one of the reasons I just ordered the WinMax 2! Well, that, and the fact Valve won't ship to my country and importing from scalpers would cost as much the WM2 anyway :(
Just know that you would have been happy with the Deck no doubt, the fact that you ended up paying more due to Valve not shipping in your country does give you more as well in exchange. In many ways, you transformed a potential loss into a win, that's a positive through and through in my book!
Thanks for your comment, it really makes me happy to know I've been helpful for you to make an informed decision! ☺
What are also some of the advantages of the native landscape display on the Win Max2?
Native landscape has better compatibility with older titles. Think Directx9 and under.
@@GameTechTalk sp if i don’t play older games, and landscape gives tearing, then it isn’t necessary to get a landscape display?
@@AugustineKusiDuah-bk4fr Well, it's not so much that landscape specifically gives tearing, so does portrait. But scanlines of panels are always from left to right, top to bottom. So on landscape those lines cover the width. If the fps is fluctuating and in lower numbers (eg. 20-30-45-60 fps) tearing is quite visible.
Portrait panels, the scanlines behave the exact same, but since it's rotated 90 degrees, the lines should be from bottom to top, left to right. So on the height which is less surface to cover. Tearing, while still visible, is less noticeable from naked eye. However, I still see it if I go looking for it.
I prefer portrait cause I don't play older games much but that's really a personal choice. Ultimately, I'll just have whatever is in the device.
(Edit) Oh and I should add, faster refresh time for panels also reduces tearing. So the 120hz from the RoG that a lot of people think is useless? Well, that also helps a great deal against tearing even if you don't hit the target fps of the panel.
Very professional. Watched this on my win max 2 lol
Fantastic review! Straight to the facts while remaining entertaining and funny. Consider me subscribed!
Thanks for the kind words! Happy to have you be part of the community, cheers! :)
Dude you are a natural.
Also eating the food on the screen killed me and now I am scarred for life.
Ahahhah!! Oh dang it's so fun seeing this video get a comment. Thanks for the kind words!
@@GameTechTalk no problem man! Btw I subscribed :)
Interesting video. Thx! :-)
Hello how you can do to put motion assistance in english? Mine is chinese, thanks
I've been told this works great. Download that software, you might have better luck with it? Otherwise, I would suggest getting the latest version on GPD's website, maybe the language will now appear as it should.
Cheers!
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I wanted to get one, but this was too close to the Flow X13 price for me to justify the purchase. That said I love what GPD has been doing.
GPD are on fire! But that ROG Ally looks pretty sweet too!
Great review! I’d LOVE to see NCAA 14 on rpcs3 emulator if possible. I can’t find an example anywhere
I might keep that for the AYANEO 2, I'm expecting it in the coming week. I'll keep that in mind if/when I do a game showcase on the device. Cheers! :)
@ AquaKlef It's actually steam who is challenging GPD. GPD has been making these portable gaming laptops long before steam entered the portable market.... I was responding to the title you gave this video... Great video tho!
Historically you are 110% right. That title is more from the standpoint that while GPD is much more a pioneer in the category than Valve is, Valve gave it so much breath that many people that wouldn't have even blinked twice are now entering and discovering this space.
Gotta give credit where credit is due. The Steam Deck did shake the market beyond anything we had seen prior to it.
Is the 16gb version enought for all the games ?
It is, though we are starting to see some games recommend 32gb, I have yet to see a game where it is mandatory. Also, some games do run slightly better on 32gb models.
Great video man, i am thinking of getting one!........Thumbs up from me.
I've always loved the form factor of the Win Max devices the most, one day I will get to the point of owning one mark my words 😂
It's my first "Max" device and yeah, it's extra for sure. I love it!
I'm hunting for a used deal on one of these. I used to use a transformerbook laptop as a basic PC when traveling years ago, so i know this size is perfect for me. Only this time i can actually game on it lol
Calling it a steam deck competitor isn't exactly fair though. There's some overlap in functionality, sure, but price and form factor dictate that these aren't exactly being marketed towards the same audience. More importantly than that, GPD has been doing this kind of thing long long long before valve released their own handheld pc
I will have both. I have Steam Deck + Preordered maxed spec Win Max 2 LTE, 2TB, 32GB RAM. The thing is for gaming value & performance, Steam Deck is still unrivaled right now. I got the cheapest Steam Deck at $399 (plus 1TB SD card for ~$135), but the maxed WIN Max 2 is about $1500 including all fees. However, for multi purposes Win Max 2 (base model) smokes Steam Deck.
You know how to live my friend! Cheers :)
I wish Valve made a higher spec steam deck. No problem paying more
@@Yoko.Kurama They kind of hinted at that in a very recent interview but I doubt it'll be anytime soon. At least in terms of CPU/GPU. Now they might offer a new SKU though... Like say an OLED Steam Deck. I'm not too concerned with that for now.
@@GameTechTalk yeah sucks. I can't wait that long lol. Do you know if there is built in software to adjust the tdp on this?
@@Yoko.Kurama There is but it's a bit counter intuitive, I actually mention it during the review, they really made it convoluted. The software that let's you adjust the gyroscopes has a tab for TDP, it's just overall weird. But if you are in the GPD discord, you're better off getting Ciphray's "ciphray.bat", it's overall easier and dedicated for that plus it provides some extra features.
You forgot to go back to cover the controller covers!
Also, cont'ruhri.
Oh dang did you scare me ahahah! Watch at 4:30 metal plates are there ;)
I don't know what cont'ruhri means sorry. Thanks for the support! :)
@@GameTechTalk Oh wow, that totally escaped my attention hahaha. Sorry.
That was the pronunciation of 'contrary' lol. A small thing, but mildly distracting. :)
@@LMahesa Ahh thanks for pointing it out. I'll pay attention to that! Being a french speaker, I always aim to improve my pronunciation. The "th" sound was a work of many months! Cheers :)
@@GameTechTalk My sympathies. I'm an English teacher at a Korean high school, so I know exactly how much pain you've gone though. Well done! =)
like the Aya neo 2, gpd win max 2 is also very capable. But it comes at a hefty price. For people on a budget, go for steam deck all day
Big time, I'm working on a video on the Steam Deck as I've had it since the very beginning. They sare two devices that have every reason to co-exist, stay tuned for that one.
I hope that burger and fries was delicious! 😯😂, otherwise great review!
Not as delicious was the Win Max 2 itself 😂 ! Thanks
LOL! GPD needs to update their product page. They advertised the HDMI port as the low-end variant of 2.1. Which technically shouldnt allow for above 60hz or VRR. But apparently you are right, I just had to plug my win max to my TV to make sure. I bought a USB C to HDMI 2.1 for nothing!
This version of the Win Max series is absolutely astounding. Im playing Return To Monkey Island and it looks beautiful on the panel. Super happy they went with glossy instead of matte finish. Obviously those using it outside might have a different opinion. But for me its the best. Also, in comparison to the win series or the Steam Deck. I find having the screen be situation above the controller area makes it way more comfortable to use and being able to have a separate angle to the screen versus the controller. Playing this bad boy laying in bed is a dream come true!
And thank you my good sir. I had no idea that holding R2 boosted the mouse pointer speed. I actually found it a little slow in some situations. This is great! Hope you enjoy your win max 2!
I sure am and clearly you are too! Happy to hear from another fellow satisfied customer of GPD with the Win Max 2. Cheers! :)
@@GameTechTalk Im over the moon! I loved the Win Max 2021 so much, that I had to jump on the Win Max 2 when it became available. I did the mistake of going Intel with the 2021 version, but was more than ready to go team red with the Win Max 2. It was weird that they decide to nix the Intel version this time around. From what I heard the people on indiegogo who ordered the Intel version were switched to AMD versions.
Looking forward to setting up a dual boot with Steam OS. I am not sure if it is availble already. But I saw a version in a video by GPD where all the TDP and CPU settings worked directly using the Steam OS interface. (Disabling cores, hyperthreading, and most importantly TDP.) That looks like a whole lot of fun! Wish they had something better and more integrated with their machines. PCP tool or WinControls does the job. But it feels a little homebrew-ish.
Oh, and. Killer review my guy! You have the knack for it. It is not easy to do videos.
@@OneRedKraken Thanks! Sorry for some reason TH-cam flagged this comment has spam and I didn't see it before today. Happy New Year! :)
7:13 Intel version has been discontinued since before they started shipping, so this whole segment is obsolete. Good review otherwise.
CPU performance completely blows the Steam Deck out of the water, if you want emulation, where CPU is the only thing that matters. With the same recommended settings, Win Max 2 runs God of War ascension with about 25-40 FPS, while Steam Deck runs it at 6-14 fps lol.
I've been following Asian technology since 2012 and specifically the Chinese company known as GPD of Shen Zhen/Hong Kong. Great review and awesome analysis and breakdown of the Win Max 2 device. However, I'd like to put history in its proper perspective and do my part to educate the masses by putting the time line in the correct and factual order.
GPD has been around since before 2013 but have been creating handheld portable devices and their specific WIN devices began in 2014 with the Win 1. I watched and bought each one through their Indiegogo campaign supporting that company while witnessing their technological evolutionary improvements ever since till today in 2022
GPD WIN devices were never challenging Valve and their inferior "steam deck" because, GPD was already doing what they were doing from 2014 and perfecting their sequel handheld devices every year to 2 years. Valve saw an opportunity and decided to get into the portable handheld gaming market and while they were at it, "change the narrative" to make it seem as if they were the 1st to create a portable windows gaming handheld that's revolutionary and credible dismissing GPD was doing it all along 7 years prior to Valve's passive aggressive jealousy.
I just wish more people knew this because seeing the whole misconception of GPD's position as a seat of challenge towards Valve when its actually and factually Valve that's challenging GPD is how it should be properly told.
You are right that GPD did those devices way before Valve, but to your point, so did Pandora with the Open Pandora device, and one could be hard pressed to say that HP did with their iPaq... Catch my drift? Don't worry, I was there for the previous devices as well, I've been into this niche for almost 2 decades now.
Whether you like it or not, Valve did bring amazing attention to this category of devices and it did bring to market a device that was better than anything before it. But hey, there is a reason why this device gets the praise it deserves, and that is on GPD's hands. With that said, I am personally happy that they did deliver with the Win Max 2, it is a FANTASTIC piece of hardware.
And last, if GPD is playing the card that they are not up against Valve, it would be a very dumb strategical standpoint, ignoring competition does not make it magically disappear and last but not least, as you seem to know GPD, go to their website and see for yourself on the splash page of the Win 4. It says in big bold yellow letters: "Better than Steam Deck". So between you and I, they know what they are doing! 😉 Thanks for watching and for your inputs, I see that we share passion and that is exciting for me to see and read! ❤
@@GameTechTalk I totally remember the Pandora and there incredible wait time for their device to hit the market. But but by the time their handheld device hit the market it was dead on arrival. I fondly remember being so excited for that device becuase it specifically attracted me to the Sega Saturn style "D" pad. I still wished in some ways GPD took their Saturn D pad like-esque from the Q9 tablet and implemented it on the Win devices. But that's just a personal preference. 😅
To add to your point, GPD had to play the card of propaganda because they knew on their end, they were trying to balance the scale of marketing exposure to which in the Western World they have struggled as a company for notoriety and prominent exposure.
Valve indeed saw this, and used this truth to work in reverse to their advantage thus overshadowing GPDs 7 to 8 years in the market already. Valve was able to use price point as one major selling factor. Of course they utilized other strategies as well such as a custom made chips specifically tailored for gameplay.
As for the Win 4 it will be and is the same exact specs as the Win Max 2 minus camera, secondary full size SD card slot, and other adornments that are obvious. But made in a smaller for factor that's more pocketable and attractive.
Last but not least going back to Valve, they still failed to deliver on the major promises of playing AAA games. The device does play, but not all and many don't load due to the inferiority of "their" specs.
I truly believe that Valve felt some type of way for quite sometime knowing and seeing that their steam platform was being utilized the most on foreign Chinese handhelds and wanted to take control of that reality since there are the creators and major innovators of that platform while bringing the PC gaming world into integration with the console market allowing potentiality of 3rd party games to finally have a home on PC for those who prefer that over a dedicated home gaming console.
I like your style 😎 and I already subscribed to your channel. Keep making those videos. I'll enjoy debating with you some more. It's stimulating. Also if you have some time checkout my channel please. I could use some good feedback. 😁
@@FuSungECookye Thanks! By the way, I did spend some time on your channel and understanding it a bit better. Thanks for letting me know btw! I'm not a consultant like that but I do have professional experience in many of the requirements to do that. There is much I could tell you but TH-cam comments is probably not the place. With that said, I see that your TH-cam has re-runs of streams but the Twitch account I found shows no activity. Where can I catch you stream?
My brother, I love your comment so much that if i could hug you through my screen, i would. Yes you are entirely right. A lot of people don’t do their research so they don’t know all these things you are saying. They only follow hype. So when you tell them that the GPD devices or any other devices are better than the deck, not saying the deck is bad, they don’t understand and get furious. 😂😂😂 if only they knew
My Win Max 2 is arriving in 10 days.
I will not be disappointed! :) Enjoy
I hope you win a Win 4 for this.
That's kind of you to say. Mine is already ordered and I have no intention of canceling so if I was to be blessed by the RNGods, it'll become a giveaway for the community. Thanks for engaging, cheers! :)
What gpu
The Ryzen 6800U is paired with a Radeon 680M GPU, while I guess AMD could design a different APU, it's very unlikely and so, know that every single device with the 6800U is most likely to have the exact same GPU. So differences in performance between devices with 6800U, while it can still exist (due to TDP, temps, ram speed, storage speed, etc), it should remain in similar a ballpark.
I heard there is an Easter egg feature of this device where if you unplug your fans and run cyberpunk at max settings you can also grill your hamburger on it. What a bargain!
DUDE!!! You had me jawdropped at the first line. I'm so naive I was like.... no way?!? And then you killed it by the end ahhahahha!!! Thanks for the laughters! Cheers! :)
I wonder how well it would run linux
Someone requested if putting SteamOS (HoloISO) on the device was in my plans. I already have many vids in the pipeline for the time being but it might happen at some point. I do believe it's been done on other devices with 6800U. In fact ETA Prime just posted one with the AYANEO 2. It's not every peripherals tested of the Win Max 2, but it's a place to start. Cheers! :)
Try testing minecraft bedrock and check how RT looks on it, or try those shader mods and see how it performs
So Minecraft Bedrock can be seen a very short moment in the video, as I'm sure you've seen. There is a trick to actually having RT on the Win Max 2 somewhat acceptable which is to run games at super low resolution, we are talking like 360p low, it's still not amazing framerates but it's a great proof of concept. There was originally a paragraph dedicated to RT in the original script but I ended up "scraping" that portion as I have plans for a future video. Stay tuned, thanks for watching! :)
@@GameTechTalk the same can be done with Steam Deck on Windows. It is pretty impressive to see raytracing working on either of those devices at all, I will definitely be looking forward to that video which may be useful overall to owners of both devices.
@@GreenLeefMusic I've been thinking of doing precisely a RT showcase for two reasons, one show the technology ON A HANDHELD, it's 🤯. But also for people to understand that RT on such a device is still very much a proof of concept, no one will be playing with RT on for any serious amount of time. I'm still considering it... Thanks for letting me know you'd like to see that video! :)
if you had to choose one....Steam Deck or WM2?
At this point in time, Steam Deck. There are other Max type devices, there is only one Steam Deck.
Actually I need to expend on that. I have a Steam Deck, and because I do and hardware is what I am passionate about, I feel comfortable buying other devices… and in doing so, I discover devices which gives the Deck a serious run for it’s money. But if I had no other devices, the Steam Deck is a no brainer and the incontestable choice, at least for now so yeah, Steam Deck.
@@GameTechTalk how reliable is the WM2 as a productivity machine? I love the Steam Deck's gaming capabilities (able to run any game I throw at it, ergonomic controls) but I kind of want one device that replaces both my current laptop and can also serve as a handheld gaming device. I'm just not sure how reliable WM2 is as a work machine.
@@FS-zt6tm It is extremely reliable, the only two things that could hold you back on a Win Max 2 (though barely) is a smaller keyboard and a smaller screen. Now that's for you to decide. But as for the CPU and ram in there, there is nothing holding anyone back. There's nothing really that can't be done with it, you can edit videos, you can stream, have a browser with 16 tabs opened. You have enough inputs to plug in whatever you'd like, the battery is legit but in a pinch you can charge this thing super fast... I mean.... I don't know what else I could say other than this is effectively a laptop in every way, except that fact that it's far more portable with a gamepad attached to it.
@@GameTechTalk thanks for the reply. I guess I'll just have to test it out myself to see if it suits my needs.
On a Unrelated note, anyone ever tell ya you look like Jerry from the tv show The Walking Dead?
I google'd him and LOL! I must agree, he's a good looking fellah! 😎
@@GameTechTalk lol, he be kicking a$$ lol
congrats on winning a Win 4. Will be expecting the same quality review once you're done with it.
You betcha! Thanks for the wishes and a Happy New Year! 😄
I want to eat a burger off my win max 2 ......
It actually makes it taste better! 🤣
Review the ayaneo 2
Already in the pipeline! ;) Thanks for the support!
@@GameTechTalk they sent you a review unit? Dang can’t wait! Steam deck has reinvigorated portable gaming passion in me but the SD just isn’t powerful enough to my liking. Ayaneo 2 seems to hit just the right spot
@@rand0mGT Dang my bad, I was sure I responded yesterday, must've forgot to hit reply. Anywho, no they haven't. I bought it myself. I am probably still a year or two before getting units like that, it's not that quick unfortunately, or at least I don't think so.
@@GameTechTalk nah should only be next year. And there’s the next 2 which supposedly comes with dgpu. I didn’t buy igg early bird myself because I want a “one and done” handheld pc emulation machine that runs all games up to ps3/xb360 at minimum 1080p 60fps 8in screen hopefully OLED
@@rand0mGT I know I'm crazy but I want 120hz so bad ahahahha! I "Nvidia Gamestream" a lot from my main PC with these devices but oh well. "Phoenix" with RDNA3 architecture should get us what you want. Rembrandt is sooooo close for 90% of the PS3 titles, so hopefully, with the next devices, we'll be set. I must admit, I haven't dabbled into Xbox emulation at all yet, I'm reserving that for the "Emulation showcase" video but that one is probably 2-3 weeks away. Cheers! :)
I don't get these comparison...of course you expect this device to be better, you're paying triple the price
So let me throw back your logic at you okay? Steam Deck was half to a third of the price of anything before it by matter of weeks, did you expect it to be half as good or a third as good? It's not exclusively about how much it cost, it's also about engineering but more importantly, I'm comparing two devices of a same "product category". That is why such comparisons exist. :)
@@GameTechTalk fair enough...I just feel that price is a big factor for majority of consumers and comparing two products that are priced this differently doesn't allow for a fair comparison. I also feel like the form factors are drastically different that they should be in separate categories.
@@FS-zt6tm sure price is a big deal, but I'm sure you still learned something let the man compare things if he has them.
The gpd win max 2 is probably better compared to a laptop than the steam deck.
The SD appeals to me because it is ergonomically like holding a pro controller.
The gpd win models are laptops with joysticks and buttons melded into them. Using it as a controller is not remotely comfortable.
The aya 2 is probably better compared imo.
I hear you, in many ways the GPD Win Max 2 would be a category of it’s own and the AYANEO 2 vs Steam Deck would make more sense. AYANEO 2 vs GPD Win Max 2 would be no different in terms that they are two devices that have potentially different appeals.
But truth is that most people interested in SD would also be interested in WM2. It’s also the first PC gaming-centric handheld to come out with better specs after SD.
Either way, the more conversations we have around these devices, the better the space becomes for consumers and companies to see the value in making these devices! Thanks for watching! 😊
frankly you can't do anything with it after that fries and burger treatment, rip.
Ahahah! All the contrary my friend, we feast, we break bread. It gained 3 fps average after the feast. 🤓🤣 Thanks for watching!
@@GameTechTalk 😂😂😂
Intel model was cancelled.
Ahhh that makes sense then, good thing as it just didn't make sense anymore to go for them at the time being, I do hope Intel can work on their drivers and maybe have something to compete with in 2-3 years.
Please try GTA V, FIFA 23 and eFootball 2023
Say no more friend and instead, allow me to shamelessly plug myself 😅. You can see GTA V and FIFA 23 on the follow-up video. As for eFootball, I'll make note of it. Cheers! :)
Edit: Link duhh.. th-cam.com/video/VIb3RTeEHfw/w-d-xo.html
@@GameTechTalk Thanks, bro! Liked, shared and subscribed ;)
Halo infinite test please!
It's official, I'll be doing a second showcase as the requests are pouring in so stay tuned, as I'll be putting one out with the title you requested. Cheers and thanks for the support! :)
@@GameTechTalk thanks brotha, I'm also a tech reviewer here on YT, have to say I dig ur presentation style, light hearted and fun! Keep it up 🤙
@@VladimirKostek Thanks, I'll be checking your content as well! Much appreciated :)
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Chastity pads 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I don't know that anyone ever commented on that little "easter egg", glad you got a laugh out of it, t'was the goal! 😂
@@GameTechTalk t'es trop fort 🤣👏
Maybe don't put food on your tech?
Maybe ☺️ Mama always said not to make promise I might not keep 🤣
@AquaKlef of course is good Content
Ew dude, don't eat that nasty food off your device...
Can't promise I won't do it again 🙃😏
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