Just think of the positive working environment they have. With all of that laughter I can imagine that making the content is as enjoyable as watching it.
You should get Phil the upgrade with Intel Xe graphics with the prerequisite that you get to do this exact same test with it before he gets to take it home. 👍
6:10 I have not seen stuttering like that since the late 1990s Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire, on a friend's computer using a Riva TNT card, 1999 I think. 13:10 As a Steve here, I am honored and not offended by this. 😹
3dmark says great because that is the top 10% of all the results with the similar specs. which means GPD actually did a great job optimizing the hardware
It is mostly down to the configured tdp. Most laptops with the 1035g7 are configured to run at a 15watt tdp compared to the 25 watt tdp out of the box on the winmax.
Pulled the trigger on the 2021 refresh of the GPD Win Max. And I have to say. Zero regrets. Best portable gaming and media PC ever. Ridiculously expensive. But this thing packs quite a punch albeit being so tiny. Makes the commute & work lunch time a blast! Being a fan of DOS Games, the built in physical keyboard was a must for me. And the built in controller is serviceable for short gaming sessions. Get RetroArch and eXoDOS on that thing and you're set.
100% if you guys replace the KPX with liquid metal it will bring the temps down further. The exposed die needs higher thermal transfer because of the smaller surface area available. KPX is great stuff but you need a larger surface for it to maximize it's performance. Also, it COULD be possible that XTU could run on that and if so could possibly add an voltage offset to reduce the temps. Worth a try.
Phil, you're a brave man. I know Jay does watercooling and things like this all the time but there is no way I would let my boss tape my handheld pc to an air conditioner for shits and giggles.
I had to pull apart an old Inspiron 1501 to repair a damaged charger line. I gave it the full once over while I was inside. New CMOS battery, clean out the cooler, and repaste it carefully. Since I deal with older systems pretty routinely, this "full once over" is basically SOP any time I open one.
Gotta loves jays ADHD moments 🤣🤣 it makes me feel not so alone with mine 😅🤣 and that little computer just ducktaped to the AC looks so jank 🤣 gotta love it
IFixit does have an electric screwdriver, I picked on up earlier this month. The problem with it is it doesn't have very much torque, so you need to loosen the screw before it will work.
Can we please get another video of "Nick and Phil's Adventure challenges" please? Like another trouble shooting challenge, or get them to build a PC together. And Jay to be filming. Loved that.s
Their customer service is crap too. I say this as a customer. But it's a niche market. The steam deck lacks a few features i need, such as usb4/thunderbolt for an egpu/dock.
@@daniesalex7073 compared to Steam Deck that sells at a loss and with a deal with AMD to get "custom" bulk APUs, I see hard for these to get cheaper soon, unless the manufacturing of the device itself gets cheaper, component wise, probably won't change.
The decreased GPU score could be from the higher output of the CPU. They share the same cooler, so thermal headroom has an upper limit somewhere. So balancing the overall cooling capabilities may need to manually throttle based on workload types. Gimping the CPU may very well give a better GPU score.
For suggestions for everyone who reads this, this can be further improved using proper version of intel xtu and undervolting the cpu offset around -0.080 which most of the cpu can do, and same to gpu also. Dont overdo it or else you will start crashing and restarting. also you can try adjusting the tdp from there generally droping 10% from standard tdp will be the sweet spot (* stock tdp will be fine) For me who uses i5-8550u this same thing increased my cpu sustained clock from 2.6ghz to 3.1ghz all core (* max boost for this cpu is 3.4ghz). I dont remember the scored but it was a big difference.
This is the first PC related video I've watched in some time. Between FPV, and RC trucks/cars, I've drifted away from PC's. I still have my rigs and such but don't really keep up with it all anymore. You'll always be my favorite techtuber though, Jay.
Hey Jay, iFixit does have a power screw driver, however, it is not the greatest. The spin speed, even when fully charged is super slow, and usually does not have enough torque to get most screws off with out using it as a normal screw driver at first.
I really appreciate you guys acting like idiots. My cat died a few days ago and this video managed to put a smile on my face. Keep up the great content.
this is the old GPD Win Max from 2020, you should look at the 2021. Iris Xe is not crappy! 1165/1195G7 is amazing with a high RAM MHz 4333 ram speed is the goal. We got VR games, Switch games and even the newest AAA games. In 42 minutes I will play Ghostwire.
@@rapier84 no stuttering, it defaults a few options to high and 800p you'll get 30 FPS mostly. I haven't tried lowering the settings because solid 30 with high settings is enough.
@@_GarethRossUK Thank you! I was quite impressed by the effects of the game and was hopeful it will run given that the intel drivers are quite meh at times. :)
I think his analogy of what the CPU did at the initial ramp up of frequency and temps was ideal. In real world applications it’s most likely programmed to go full send because it might be a burst of processes and be done, but in long term scenarios it needs to rethink how it’s going to tackle the processes.
Jay there’s a company that you can use to refrigerate the water in your custom loop. That would be neat to see how well that work. And then combine it with the air conditioner.
It is so clear that we currently is limited by cooling ability and especially in smaller solutions. Hopefully we'll se a leap in cooling ability soon, just like we have seen in other tech developments areas.
Got Win Max 2 2023 coming in a few weeks, can't wait, will be only computer too and use Oculink with external 4090, 2 4k monitors etc. Ultraportable on the road, best of both worlds. You can take this places a laptop won't fit / is weird.
So the best thing you could do with an air-conditioned PC that is accessible for _semi_ mass market is to create ducting with a 3D-printed baffle for both the air conditioner outlet and the PC case internals. This way, cooling can go through an insulted duct on the outside, unfasten the stock fascia, replace with outlet baffles, plumb with duct to the PC, then fit it in the rear for all the cool air to go inside. This would bee the most realistic way of doing it, and with some cool-down time for the ducting to get nice and cold, the air going inside would be absolutely frigid with a well-performing unit.
yes i immediately tore down mine before even using it build quality is kind of low, but cooling solution and battery is pretty good. joysticks are also very creative. The i5-1035G7 actually is based on Xe graphics, 64 compute unit. However they are not called Xe because they are released before Xe is a thing its pretty powerful, but only for the resolution of the internal screen.
Some more funny numbers about this old GPD Win Max in combination with egpus: Combined with a Tesla K40 (clocked at the equivalent titan speed) you get 3300 Points in Time Spy. Combined with a Tesla K40 (without oc) you get 2400 Points in Time Spy. Combined with a Tesla M40 (which slightly thermal throttled) you get 4600 Points in Time Spy Combined with a RX Vega 56 you get 5600 Points in Time Spy
I've got one of these! It's down right now though as I took the M.2 SSD out to use in another device. It's a great little laptop though. Not the best for gaming, but it can game. I mostly bought it to had a really small portable laptop for pentesting work. Also, GPD did create an upgraded PCB you could buy for this device that had an 11th gen Intel or an AMD, your choice!
I do liquid metal on pretty much everything. If you're gonna repaste, might as well do it properly. You can get maybe 5-10% better heat transfer with a TP, but LM will give you 20-30% more headroom
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Jay has really gotten good at naming pc's there was Skunkworks, Nebula and now "Hi I'm Steve".
As long as none of his PC's start calling him Dave.....
His full name is Naymers Gexus Steve....
SMG4 viewers just have one line from Steve in mind...
He should have dubbed it "Hi, I'm the cooler Steve"
Lmao skunkworks has to be the funniest ironic name for a puter if you're into car culture
"The battery is like heeeeeelp, the power supply is like I got you bro" - I laughed way harder than I should've at 4am...
Where?
I laughed way harder than I should've at 4am... thats straight cap
@@svpracer98 16:50
I was crying at his basic description of how turbo works @4min
Phil's commentary and outbursts of laughter really do make these great videos even better
I wholeheartedly agree! It makes for some joy!
Just think of the positive working environment they have. With all of that laughter I can imagine that making the content is as enjoyable as watching it.
God, Phil's laugh is half the reason I enjoy this channel so much. 😂
its quite the opposite for me
I feel you 😂
Love his laugh
RIP KEKW. But phil FILLS that hole
KEKW
@@deeperlayer makes me enjoy it more knowing that I enjoy it and other actually hate it! 🤣
When Jay pulls out the air conditioner, I know it's gonna be good
12:04 AYYOOOO CHILL MAN
You should get Phil the upgrade with Intel Xe graphics with the prerequisite that you get to do this exact same test with it before he gets to take it home. 👍
6:10 I have not seen stuttering like that since the late 1990s Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire, on a friend's computer using a Riva TNT card, 1999 I think.
13:10 As a Steve here, I am honored and not offended by this. 😹
3dmark says great because that is the top 10% of all the results with the similar specs. which means GPD actually did a great job optimizing the hardware
It is mostly down to the configured tdp. Most laptops with the 1035g7 are configured to run at a 15watt tdp compared to the 25 watt tdp out of the box on the winmax.
Phil: I got a new GPD WIN MAX!
Jay aka Deebo: No, I got a new GPD WIN MAX!
🤣🤣🤣🤣
lmao yeah
Deebo, that's a throwback
RIP Deebo 😥😕
Pulled the trigger on the 2021 refresh of the GPD Win Max. And I have to say. Zero regrets. Best portable gaming and media PC ever. Ridiculously expensive. But this thing packs quite a punch albeit being so tiny. Makes the commute & work lunch time a blast!
Being a fan of DOS Games, the built in physical keyboard was a must for me. And the built in controller is serviceable for short gaming sessions. Get RetroArch and eXoDOS on that thing and you're set.
The best part about Jay's videos is Phil randomly laughing in the background.
I love these goofy videos - keep them coming! Great job guys!
I fully expect "back to you Steve" edits with the new co-host now.
100% if you guys replace the KPX with liquid metal it will bring the temps down further. The exposed die needs higher thermal transfer because of the smaller surface area available. KPX is great stuff but you need a larger surface for it to maximize it's performance.
Also, it COULD be possible that XTU could run on that and if so could possibly add an voltage offset to reduce the temps. Worth a try.
That specific model on the Win is prone to catching on fire,
If you don't have a cooling mod then i suggest you install a copper heatsink
Phil, you're a brave man. I know Jay does watercooling and things like this all the time but there is no way I would let my boss tape my handheld pc to an air conditioner for shits and giggles.
He promised to give a new one
So i would do it and smah it and use very small cheap tape 😆
Jay made him edit out the bit where he caught Phil making cuts in the tape with a razor knife...
It's just tape, what's the big deal?
I had to pull apart an old Inspiron 1501 to repair a damaged charger line.
I gave it the full once over while I was inside. New CMOS battery, clean out the cooler, and repaste it carefully.
Since I deal with older systems pretty routinely, this "full once over" is basically SOP any time I open one.
You three are definitely having way too much fun with this shit
Gotta loves jays ADHD moments 🤣🤣 it makes me feel not so alone with mine 😅🤣 and that little computer just ducktaped to the AC looks so jank 🤣 gotta love it
IFixit does have an electric screwdriver, I picked on up earlier this month. The problem with it is it doesn't have very much torque, so you need to loosen the screw before it will work.
Yea I use the $20 (same price) ones from home depot / lowes, they're bigger but also have like 20x the torque
Im shocked there was no ''thanks steve'' cut in for that extra comedic effect
The videos where you guys mess around and just have fun, but with a purpose, are my favourite. And Steve is the EXACT right name.
Hey jay and crew thanks for nice videos it's getting me trough a rough time because my dad has past away at 53 years old last week
Wow that’s too young - condolences, bram.
@@SchoolforHackers thank you
Can we please get another video of "Nick and Phil's Adventure challenges" please? Like another trouble shooting challenge, or get them to build a PC together. And Jay to be filming. Loved that.s
I always found the GPD computers to be fascinating, but way too pricey.
Unfortunately that's the trade off of a smaller companies...
Their customer service is crap too. I say this as a customer. But it's a niche market. The steam deck lacks a few features i need, such as usb4/thunderbolt for an egpu/dock.
This one was only $400 used
The prices will come down once they get more customers ,
@@daniesalex7073 compared to Steam Deck that sells at a loss and with a deal with AMD to get "custom" bulk APUs, I see hard for these to get cheaper soon, unless the manufacturing of the device itself gets cheaper, component wise, probably won't change.
The decreased GPU score could be from the higher output of the CPU.
They share the same cooler, so thermal headroom has an upper limit somewhere.
So balancing the overall cooling capabilities may need to manually throttle based on workload types.
Gimping the CPU may very well give a better GPU score.
Please do a chilled water build or an ac build that would be sick!!!
Linus tech tips already did ac cooling
For suggestions for everyone who reads this, this can be further improved using proper version of intel xtu and undervolting the cpu offset around -0.080 which most of the cpu can do, and same to gpu also. Dont overdo it or else you will start crashing and restarting. also you can try adjusting the tdp from there generally droping 10% from standard tdp will be the sweet spot (* stock tdp will be fine)
For me who uses i5-8550u this same thing increased my cpu sustained clock from 2.6ghz to 3.1ghz all core (* max boost for this cpu is 3.4ghz). I dont remember the scored but it was a big difference.
This is the first PC related video I've watched in some time. Between FPV, and RC trucks/cars, I've drifted away from PC's. I still have my rigs and such but don't really keep up with it all anymore. You'll always be my favorite techtuber though, Jay.
Lame-o
Hey Jay, iFixit does have a power screw driver, however, it is not the greatest. The spin speed, even when fully charged is super slow, and usually does not have enough torque to get most screws off with out using it as a normal screw driver at first.
So glad I'm subbed to both JTC and GN, and get each other's reference to the other, freaking hilarious!
"Crap, my password is numbers!" was just as funny as the cardboard box taped over the AC blocking the tower's power button from last time!
Phil gets GPD Win Max.
Jay: OUR win max
Here I am at 12am watching Jay's new video :)
I really appreciate you guys acting like idiots. My cat died a few days ago and this video managed to put a smile on my face.
Keep up the great content.
"This is not Gamer Nexus Steve. This is Namer Gexus Steve. Totally different! Much better hair!"
bwhaahahahahaha ^^
"ALRIGHT MEN LET'S GO" for the first 20 seconds of a task then tapering off to 40% effort is such a mood.
Damn, that old ringtone triggered my "Oh crap, I'm getting a call"-reflex, and then a wave of nostalgia hit.
"If you throw up in VR, you throw up in real life."
-Phil, Jayztwocents 2022
11:00 Jay'z perfect description of ageing in general.
Goblin/gremlin Jay is absolutely top tier in the thumbnail and intro
Phil makes this channel much more fun! I love his laugh bro!
"Steam Deck!" Sounds like it could be the gaming meme equivalent of "Cooorvettt" Jay (from 24 Hours of Lemons) is known for.
this is the old GPD Win Max from 2020, you should look at the 2021. Iris Xe is not crappy! 1165/1195G7 is amazing with a high RAM MHz 4333 ram speed is the goal. We got VR games, Switch games and even the newest AAA games. In 42 minutes I will play Ghostwire.
How does Ghostwire run on the 2021 Max? Does it stutter? :)
@@rapier84 no stuttering, it defaults a few options to high and 800p you'll get 30 FPS mostly. I haven't tried lowering the settings because solid 30 with high settings is enough.
@@_GarethRossUK Thank you! I was quite impressed by the effects of the game and was hopeful it will run given that the intel drivers are quite meh at times. :)
@@rapier84 since it's the same engine as deathloop I believe that's probably why the Intel drivers were ready 👍
I love Jay's anthropomorphic computer component world. That's totally how it is.
I was kind of hoping you were going to show us some games and frame rate tests on various games
I love these wacky experimentation videos, keep it up!
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4:15 Phil, we need a metal edit. Pls thx
12:30 wow it’s Bender from the Futurama animated series 🤩👍🤖🦾🦿
1:42 "look like a pile of crap that ate a second pile of crap and then crapped out a third pile of crap" - Bojack
The thumbnail looks like one of those "Beware of Strangers" poster.
Jay looks like a mad scientist about to do some sketchy stuff.
Jayz has the same twisted humor like I do. Namers Gexus. I KEEP SAYING THAT MYSELF. AND BEVE STURKE!
I think his analogy of what the CPU did at the initial ramp up of frequency and temps was ideal. In real world applications it’s most likely programmed to go full send because it might be a burst of processes and be done, but in long term scenarios it needs to rethink how it’s going to tackle the processes.
I was actually expecting the... Steve to fall off right when Jay slapped the side of the A/C unit.
Jay there’s a company that you can use to refrigerate the water in your custom loop. That would be neat to see how well that work. And then combine it with the air conditioner.
LOL. Remember the Screen Savers show? They put a mobo into a tank of special liquid.
It is so clear that we currently is limited by cooling ability and especially in smaller solutions. Hopefully we'll se a leap in cooling ability soon, just like we have seen in other tech developments areas.
Got Win Max 2 2023 coming in a few weeks, can't wait, will be only computer too and use Oculink with external 4090, 2 4k monitors etc. Ultraportable on the road, best of both worlds. You can take this places a laptop won't fit / is weird.
Phil's touch and inclusion why I love this content
I love this channel. I watch all the big tech channels, but Jay has the best content. Plus he loves cars along with me.
Next time on JayzTwoCents:
We are putting PC into minibar fridge!
And We even left some free space for couple cans of beer.
This is the content I come to this channel for. I died when Jay slapped the name tag on the ACPC🤣
AC overclock the steam deck next?
I fuckin' LOST IT at "he has better hair"! 🤣🤣🤣
Hey J! Make a quazie cooling pad attachment? Thermal throttling would be reduced. Cool little gadget computer thingy!
For electric screwdriver, I have a Wowstick 1f+, I recommend it. Great build quality and good battery life.
So the best thing you could do with an air-conditioned PC that is accessible for _semi_ mass market is to create ducting with a 3D-printed baffle for both the air conditioner outlet and the PC case internals. This way, cooling can go through an insulted duct on the outside, unfasten the stock fascia, replace with outlet baffles, plumb with duct to the PC, then fit it in the rear for all the cool air to go inside.
This would bee the most realistic way of doing it, and with some cool-down time for the ducting to get nice and cold, the air going inside would be absolutely frigid with a well-performing unit.
yes i immediately tore down mine before even using it
build quality is kind of low, but cooling solution and battery is pretty good. joysticks are also very creative.
The i5-1035G7 actually is based on Xe graphics, 64 compute unit. However they are not called Xe because they are released before Xe is a thing
its pretty powerful, but only for the resolution of the internal screen.
Phil should do a ASMR channel of him laughing, soooo infectious.
@JayzTwoCents you can overclock parts of the integrated graphics and cpu with 'Throttle Stop'
Some more funny numbers about this old GPD Win Max in combination with egpus:
Combined with a Tesla K40 (clocked at the equivalent titan speed) you get 3300 Points in Time Spy.
Combined with a Tesla K40 (without oc) you get 2400 Points in Time Spy.
Combined with a Tesla M40 (which slightly thermal throttled) you get 4600 Points in Time Spy
Combined with a RX Vega 56 you get 5600 Points in Time Spy
I always love it when Jay roleplays as hardware.
As soon as you said it looked like a face when you taped it to the a/c, I couldn't unsee it. Thanks for the laughs Jay.
I love how much fun yall have, if you were on the east coast I would do anything to come and work with yall!
Thank you guys! Awesome video to watch after coming home from a long day of autonomous vehicle problems!
dude i love when u guys have fun like this it makes me smile so much
I really love the thumbnail of this video. It really looks like Dr Jekyll and Mister Jay.
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Jay you're killing me! Not even 2 minutes in and already laughing my ass off. This should be a great video.
First with the hair, then with the Steve.. Subtle Jay.. :D
At least Steve shows up to work and finishes what he started.... Ya know, like computer builds and stuff 😭🤣
Jay, I would love to hang out, smoke a joint, and talk tech with you! Love the consistant videos
mythbusters: when in doubt c4
jayztwocents: when in doubt ac
14:42 420 points increase, and the temperature stayed at 69 c for a hot minute (pun intended). Nice!
You summed it up well, that was a fun vid! Enjoyed that, thanks and keep up the good work
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I've got one of these! It's down right now though as I took the M.2 SSD out to use in another device. It's a great little laptop though. Not the best for gaming, but it can game. I mostly bought it to had a really small portable laptop for pentesting work. Also, GPD did create an upgraded PCB you could buy for this device that had an 11th gen Intel or an AMD, your choice!
Another scam comment. Don’t fall for it
@@user-ke7mx3vk7k But _do_ report it!
@@user-ke7mx3vk7k But I wanted my MSI Prebuilt.
I have my Shipping Gift Cards and everything...
@@user-ke7mx3vk7k I mean, it is flipping the bird at all of us. How could it not be Jay? Lol
Unfortunately, nowadays that PCB is no longer available on its own, gotta buy a whole unit. On the other hand, GPD JUST announced a Win Max 2!
They just make you feel special for doing the benchmark
I do not have instagrams
Introducing, the Steve Deck
HAHAHAH Nick's face. Priceless
I love that because of where the sticker was put, I read it as "Hi, I'm Steve Hisense."
"Hi, I'm Steve" LMAO!
I do liquid metal on pretty much everything. If you're gonna repaste, might as well do it properly. You can get maybe 5-10% better heat transfer with a TP, but LM will give you 20-30% more headroom
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You'll need a lot more cables than that if you wanna call that Steve. Pics or it didn't happen! 😄
8:58 Thermal paste! Yum 😋
Steve looks like Johnny 5.
Love the Steve shots
The DIN keyboard connector is making a comeback !!
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"FPS done dirt cheep" ahh shit my cheeks are hurting
The only thing missing was the “Thanks Steve” clip from the Intel presentation.
Really like this type of content
love these wacky stuff!!!!! AC/PC!!!!!!