GPD Win Max 2 | In-Depth Look | Ryzen 6800U The Real Deal? | Unboxing, PC Gaming, Emulation, Testing
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- In this video, we will go in-depth and check out the new Win Max 2 from GPD. From an unboxing to battery testing, PC gaming, and PS3, Xbox 360, and Nintendo Switch emulation. We will examine the incredibly powerful AMD Ryzen 7 6800U with Radeon 680M graphics and do some benchmarking. This should be a great primer and get you familiar with the GPD Win Max 2.
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📑CHAPTERS:
00:00 Intro
01:38 Specs
03:11 Unboxing
04:21 Touring the Win Max 2
08:27 Weight and Size Comparisons
09:30 First Boot/Windows 11/Setting Up
10:19 Ciphray Bat Tool/GPD Discord/Sound Fix
11:57 Display and Build Quality
13:01 Benchmarking the 6800U/680M
14:34 Chenwk Overlay Tool
14:53 PC Gaming
15:38 Spiderman: Miles Morales
16:27 God of War
17:19 Callisto Protol
18:20 RPCS3 - Resogun
19:35 Wipeout HD - RPCS3
20:33 Uncharted 2 - RPCS3
21:28 Xenia Canary - ilomilo
22:38 Goldeneye 007 - Xbox 360 - Xenia Canary
23:33 Forza Horizon - Xbox 360 - Xenia Canary
24:39 Yuzu - Metroid Dread
25:52 Kirby and the Forgotten Land - Switch - YUZU
26:54 Super Mario Odyssey - Switch - YUZU
29:31 Comfort/Fatigue Test
30:47 Joystick Caps
31:33 Battery Life/Testing
32:28 Temperature Testing
32:56 Desktop Replacement?
33:29 USB C Docking Solution
35:14 Final Thoughts/Things to Consider
37:13 What do you think?/Feedback/Thank you
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Items to check out:
➡GPD Win Max 2 (amzn.to/3usV4Zj)
➡Aestoria USB C Docking Station (amzn.to/3Hzv4mT5)
➡GPD Win Max 2 Official Case (amzn.to/3UGChEp)
➡Alternative Case - Vamson (amzn.to/3VWoVFc)
➡Anker USB C Charger - 65W alternative (amzn.to/3Y3nvKQ)
➡Skull & Co. Joystick Caps (amzn.to/3iKyPLN)
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What do you think about the GPD Win Max 2? Are you considering an AMD Ryzen 6800U device?
Would you downgrade from a 14 zephyrus for the portability?
I would wait to see if they release a 2023 Edition with a 7840U
@@AnTran147 but what about the 2024 edition?
I'm about to order the gpd win 4. After plenty of research it is clear that when docked it is dramatically more powerful than the Steam deck, able to reach and maintain a 45w tdp without issue for long play periods. That is higher than most laptops with a 6800u. When unlocked it is still more powerful than the deck, still has a bigger battery, is smaller and more portable, and has the built in keyboard. The Steam deck is nice for what it is, but it just can't compare when docked the 6800u puts out so much more power, and the 6800u devices support eGPUs. So the win 4 can also be docked with a spare 2070 I have laying around and it will have enough power to do anything I could ask of it.
@@cheeeeezewizzz 3 Month out of date answer but 45W on a 6800u/7840u means very little in actual fps. The issue is diminishing returns where you can double your power budget after 25W and get very little in return as your GPU cores are already peaking or are limited somewhere else (memory bandwidth). Look up benchmarks from The Phawx and you see the same effect when those APU are pushed to 30W.
th-cam.com/video/DDGg5kzwje4/w-d-xo.html
Notice how the line flatlines ... yea, ...you can push in another 15W but your barely going to get a few extra fps. But your turning your device into a windtunnel that wakes up the neighbors.
You literally answered all the questions I had about this thing, thanks!
I'm really glad it was helpful! 🤗🤗🤗 I think there's still more I could talk about. The Win Max 2 will definitely be back on the channel for some emulation showcases.
This has to be the best in depth and helpful review out there period. I ordered mine last week, this is a great guide to what I can expect. Hopefully I won't have buyers remorse after getting this device. Great job!
is it comfy?
@@Yoko.Kurama didnt get mine yet
Wow, thank you very much for the compliment! I really appreciate the kind words. 🤗 It's a very solid device, I think you will enjoy it.
I found it to be surprisingly comfortable, a lot better than I was expecting for sure.
Where did you order from?
Might wait for 7840U gpd win mini like what phawx leaked
7" screen shud be the perfect ratio for work/gaming otg
I'm super excited to see how the Win Mini turns out. It's one of the form factors I've been hoping that GPD returns to!
Dang I have some learning to do, this is a great review with great production level. Great work @The Retro Tech Dad. Cheers!
Thank you, it's seriously appreciated! I'm still learning myself over here. 🤗🙏
I've been waiting for a quality review on this device. Amazing job! Can't wait until I get my hands on mine!
Wow, thank you for the compliment. It's really appreciated and I'm very glad the video was helpful! 🤗🤗
@@retrotechdad honestly, that was the best WM2 review I've seen on youtube and I've been watching them almost daily in anticipation of receiving mine. Did you enter the contest for the Win4? You definitely deserve to win it
Wow, I had no idea they were running a contest. Thank you, I just entered! 🤗🤗
@@retrotechdad You really deserve the WIN 4 with this review. :-)
@@retrotechdad you're welcome😉. I knew you would win a Win 4 with this review🥳🎉
This is such an entertain and in-depth review, love it!!!
Thank you, I really appreciate it! 🙏💗
Oh man.. im so excited to get mine! Ive been dreaming about this thing ever since i heard about it! Great review :)
Haha, that's awesome! and thank you! 🙏
I have one of these and absolutely love it. It's all about a feature complete value proposition. An Aya neo next is $1400 and doesn't have a keyboard. Once the gaming performance becomes lack luster the Max 2 can still be a great mini computer. Great video!
Exactly, and pair it with an eGPU and you can push the little machine further.
That little doggy sitting with you at 30:43 deserves all the likes and more! BTW, it would be better without the music at the background, or at least, in a lower volume :)
I have one! Excellent review. Thank you.
Thank you so much, it's a great device! 🔥
LOL ASMR with those controller covers! Great info. Great info
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The best review on youtube ! Thank yoy!
Thank you for the compliment, I really appreciate it! 🤗🤩
My AOKZOE a1 has completely replaced my desktop when docked. Such a great processor. Great video! Maybe next year I’ll do a win max 3 if they do one.
The 6800U is fantastic, I'm so happy we have this level of performance!
Great review man
Thank you, much appreciated! 🙏💗
Hello! I enjoyed the video. How is the Win Max 2 after a year of use?
Incredible video! Does the overlay works the same way like intel? I just recognized that the pc games miss alot of data in the overlay but with the emulation it was there like tdp and temps.
Yes, I noticed after recording that certain values were missing. It was because HWinfo needed to be restarted, which is why you see the values populated in the emulation footage.
@@retrotechdad ahhhh okay got it. Which software did you use? Would you mind filming a setup guide? Thanks for all your support 👍🏻
I just wanted to say that your review is the best one I've seen, thank you so much for taking the time to create such a high quality video review! I've been looking at this since it got announced on IGG, but decided to stick with the Steam Deck for the time being. Now that the 7840U refresh has been announced, I've been looking for new reviews of the 6800U version to hear more experiences. My main concern is the comfort level and duration holding it. You specifically mentioned that, and your coverage made me consider this more. The 10.1 inch screen is the biggest draw for me, but it is meaningless if you can't hold it for long periods of time!
I also just backed the 7840u refresh, and this alleviated all of my concerns about comfort!
th-cam.com/video/1oTAR-2DE18/w-d-xo.html
the idea to use it as desktop pc with a dock isn't something I thought about it's genius!
It works really well and it's more than powerful enough for the task!
Ok I kind of want it now (for it's laptop purpose, not handheld) 😜 great vid my friend! - Stubbzzz
You know you want a companion for CES. Nobody has to know. 🤫👀😅
@@retrotechdad Sure! Are you in the vegas area?
No, Phoenix area. I was seriously contemplating going but my daughter's schedule is a little different this year and she will be back in school during CES. 😭😭
WipEout soundtrack was the best game soundtrack in history.
Really happy I bought the caps hahaha. Because I was having a hard time gaming without it. My fingers would slip the sticks. Thanks to your recommendation. The CQC though I can’t close the lid. How did you make it work?
The Skull & Co set is great, lots of cool options. The CQC leaves a small maybe 1-2mm gap but mine does still close. I'm not too worried about any damage because of the material.
Does it still shut or does it also have a small gap?
@@retrotechdad I'm currently using the skin grip instead because it allows me to close the lid properly. I'm worried using the cqc overtime will losen the hinges or introduce some warping on the panel.
I'm usually carrying it inside my body bag that's why it's important for me that it really closes. But still thank you for the tip because the skin grip works wonders for too.
I'm in love with this, but I have to wait a year until I can legaly work so I can buy one 😭 cant wait
The nice thing is that this specific model will either be cheaper especially second hand or you can get the new refresh that is shipping now. 🤗🤗
Can't wait to get mine. :-)
Check back in here and share your first impressions! 🤗
@@retrotechdad Will do. :-)
@@ProfWereW Hm? Using what? The WM2? :-D
Hello, nice video. What about fan noise ?
I've am really liking mine, mainly for a notebook though. I missed out on all the netbooks, I always wanted one but when they were popular they actually sucked. The Win Max 2 is kinda a childhood dream answered for me. The only way I can play it is laying down, head propped up on a pillow, and it resting on my stomach. It is more comfortable laying down than any other handheld because how the distance between the hands and the stomach, supplied by the keyboard, is perfect. Other than that I don't like playing games on it unless it is plugged into a monitor or TV with separate controllers hooked up to it. It is powerful enough to play PS3 games, which in itself is amazing.
I do love it for a notebook, can't stress that enough, I've traveled with it and this is all I need for a computer and I can play games laying down at the motel at the end of the day.
That's an amazing overview! It's the perfect video to obsess over as I wait for mine. This computer kicks ass, the concept is amazing (despite being very niche)
Thank you, I appreciate that! 🙏🤗 I agree, I think it's a fantastic concept and GPD has really nailed it with the Max 2.
Being a console gamer, my choice will always be the Switch OLED, but….I must say, your review is EXCELLENT and surpasses those so called “professional” reviewers! Thank you very much for the great experience.
I hope you decide to make game reviews on the Switch. SUBSCRIBED!
Thank you VERY much for your tremendous compliment and thank you for watching and being a supporter! 💗🙏
The Switch is always finding ways to sneak into my videos. 😁
@@retrotechdad lol
music production/realtime audio ? Video editing ? DPC latency test ?
Amazing performance coming out of the 6800U, I can’t wait for the WIN 4!
Yesss! 🙏🙏
Half Life Alyx workshop maps (user made) of Goldeneye are the highest form of Goldeneye, next level.
Nice video, I think the Win Max 2 is the device I have been looking for. A ultra portable laptop to stream media on and also capable of gaming with a screen big enough. My only question is can you charge it with a 60 Watt pd power bank?
a battery life test between the Steam Deck and the Win Max 2 using 40 Hz would be cool to see. I have to admit, I was expecting more battery life from the Win Max 2 but I guess with all those extra ports and bigger screen, the bigger battery kind of takes a hit.
Don't forget that battery life demonstrated was at the default TDP (24w). You can lower the TDP to get better battery life at the expense of performance but it really depends on what is being played.
Very impressive analysis. Great content…BUT I noticed you aren’t playing destiny. Why is my fire team MIA
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Excellent review and congrats on winning that Win 4 from GPD!
Just wanna share some thoughts and would like some opinions.
I have a 2020 model Predator Helios 300, (15.6inch, i5 10300H, RTX 2060 6GB and with the base 8GB RAM config) I also have an OG Nintendo Switch. I've recently gotten into Retro gaming mainly just GBA (as I've been a Nintendo handheld gamer since kindergarten) and I use Retroarch on my phone to scratch the nostalgia itch. I put emphasis on handheld as I've never owned a desktop setup, I've had a PS4 but rarely did I use it. I do however use my laptop for work and/or play as I do have a monitor and keyboard/mouse setup for it at my office and I've been always on the go. I'd like to keep my laptop and my Switch but I do sometimes like to put them aside and enjoy the convenience of having one less thing to carry around with me. The laptop can do most of the gaming and work while the Switch is there for Nintendo first party games.
Being a mostly handheld gamer/laptop user the launch of the Switch opened up a ton of possibilities, I mean back then the PSP Ports of games were something else back in their day but a straight up Switch COPY of a console game (no cut content, no differences) is truly life changing. Then came the Steam Deck blurring the lines between home console and handheld even further. It can be said that the Deck came in with fresher hardware and the Switch is now long in the tooth but that's just the reality with the big companies, they cant just roll out iteration after iteration of a console every couple of years (heck even months! I'm looking at you ANBERNIC!) like an iPhone or Samsung Galaxy. Now I don't know how long the Steam Deck will stay the way it is, but both the Switch and the Deck have software optimization as part of their advantage with Switch having exclusive titles as a bonus.
These 6800U ultra mobile gaming PCs are almost in a league of their own especially when you consider that they're literally portable WORK and PLAY machines. Brute force is their main advantage where some software optimizations are not up to par with the likes of Deck optimization. Getting a 6800U device for the WANT of it is really tempting, especially if it can substitute a 15.6-inch laptop in case I don't want to lug it around with me.
I'm stuck with this dilemma of budget, performance, portability, and versatility.
-The GPD Win Max 2 and Win 4 can be a more portable alternative to my laptop although it'll cost as much as my laptop, maybe even more.
-Given a limited budget, the Deck would be great as it can also run Windows but still not as versatile as the GPD handhelds.
I've read news that the Win 4 can run SteamOS almost natively but I don't know how if its just the front end or it'll have any optimization improvements; Valve has really nailed the software side of things. And with that, with all things considered and If I'm willing to shell out as much as my laptop's worth of money for the price of significant portability, I'll go for the Win 4. The Win Max 2 is great, but I can't justify the cost and performance reduction for a bit more portability. And if budget does not permit it, I'll go and grab a Deck for the hell of it.
What a time to be alive for portable gaming.
Thank you, it's because of viewers like you that suggested I enter and I am so thankful for it!🙏🤗
It's always so difficult to make decisions because we are so fortunate to have so many choices nowadays. I'm not sure if this will help but here are some things to think about.
The Win Max 2 is definitely a very nice laptop replacement. It sounds like you are tired of having such a large laptop that despite its power is just not the kind of portability you are looking for. The cool thing about the WM2 is that it is more than suffice for doing work on the go and if you really need that extra GPU boost, you can always setup an eGPU and have a fairly powerful "desktop". Now, the Win 4 is a very different approach to design from the Win Max 2. One is doing a very good job at being a potential laptop replacement with gaming controls as the secondary.
The Win 4, on the other hand, is trying to give you as much power in as compact of a size as possible with a keyboard in this case being the secondary. We can't understate how impressive the Win 4's size is, have you seen it compared to a Steam Deck? It's definitely going to win in terms of portability with power and at a surprisingly very competitive price point.
Finally, nothing will beat the Steam Deck on its price to performance. However, Steam Deck really is best designed for the Steam OS experience and all of the support that Valve is giving it is based on them working on improving proton and Linux gaming. Likewise, while many devices will run Steam OS, the Steam Deck will always be the best Steam OS experience because of Valve's commitment to Steam OS and Steam Deck.
I'll be happy to keep talking back and forth with you if you want to put some thoughts down. 😉😁 Thanks for stopping by and commenting.
@@retrotechdad awesome! Thanks for the detailed reply.
Yes, we are indeed spoiled with choices nowadays. Back then we can only dream of the capabilities these devices are able to do now.
I was about to mention something about bringing only 2 machines with me one for work and one for gaming. Lugging the laptop around can fulfill both roles but I'd have to be in proximity of an outlet to be able to properly game on it, no problems for lighter titles though, aside from the bulk, the pick up and play aspect of the switch is what spoiled me. Hence why I have to bring 2 devices with me. Pick up and play is not a thing with the laptop as it does need to have a place to set down on and do some prepwork like clearing a desk or busting out the power brick. I'd lose interest in playing by the time I even pull out the laptop from my bag.
Oh and yes, the Deck is quite large. And if I'm going somewhere it's going to be a laptop and a switch or a laptop and a Steam Deck. But not the Deck and a Switch. It cracks me up every time I think of it. Having two of the same form factor devices one being big. And the other BIGGER 😂 The Win 4, compared to the Deck is really something.
As for the priority, it's situational. I don't really need the keyboard as I'm not gonna use it for typing mostly. If I'm gonna do spreadsheets then the numpad on the laptop is the way to go. I'm talking about situations where I had to do work and don't have my laptop with me. And since my nature of work concerns graphics work, its better to just carry around my trusty mouse and work my way with the shortcut keys on the keyboard of the Win 4. These situations are more of an "uhh we need some changes to this and that" but I'm away from my office kind of situations. So the keypad on the Win 4 while not the strong point. Is still a nice to have feature.
One thing of concern though, for all 6800U devices, is the heat. Coming from a laptop with a lot of heft from the heat sinks and dual fan setups, are these new chips inside really that efficient in giving performance for less heat? I wonder how these devices fare in the long run.
And will setting up an e-gpu ease the burden on the APU relegating only CPU tasks to the Handheld/Mini PC. If that's the case then this is a real game changer. like how the Asus ROG Flow X13 introduced itself as an ultraportable gaming laptop with docking capability. But the price is too astronomical for my poor bank account. And this is where the Win Max 2 comes in.
How did you set up or where can we get that the same overlay in your gpd win max 2? I like it, its horizontal on the top, how did you do that sir?
I have it linked in my description with a video guide from the developer of the overlay. It's designed by Chenwk from the GPD discord, who is happy to answer questions about it there (and says thank you for the compliment).
You can reach the GPD discord (go to Win Max 2 channel) from here: discord.com/invite/UbtfMTrSWx
Very cool ultra portable laptop that has controls embedded for gaming. I’m actually interested in this as a laptop first and gaming second because it’s so compact and powerful. Sony used to make the ultra portables but no longer. If you want a 10” laptop, they’re only Chromebook’s these days.
nice I also want to buy new Laptop and its look like 6800U really great option for me, coz I want low TPD but still pack some power inside.
Yes, the 6800U is turning out to be a great performer!
if you factor in the cost of a ps3, xbox 360, switch etc, it makes the win max 2 an even more amazing proposition
It's so true, I forget that sometimes as well. These devices are so capable today and are able to replace so many different devices in a home.
Great review. I am looking at purchasing this soon. Where did you order yours from. Im nervous about ordering from indigogo but amazon sellers have all mark ups. I live in the US.
Best review of the device and helped me make a decision. This was my first time seeing your video and now a subscriber.
Thank you.
Thank you so much for your compliment and the sub! I'm glad you found your way over to my channel. 🤗🙏
I did back the IGG campaign but another great place to get the WM2 from would be Droix.net. They are based in the UK I believe, but they ship via DHL and are very responsive and quick with service. I've used them many times in the past!
They did have the WM2 on a small sale during Cyber Monday but their markup isn't enormous compared to the sellers on Amazon. I'd say give them a shot if you want a quick turnaround time, keep in mind that they only seem to have the base model in stock (which is what I have).
BTW, GPD is safe to order from via IGG, I just don't know what their ship times are like right now since I think they are out of stock on certain units. I don't think they would be as fast as Droix or Amazon if you are looking for something to arrive quickly.
Thank you for the response
@@security9999 Did you get a Win Max 2?
@Csabi Imre im waiting for the 32gb/1tb or 32gb/2tb to be back in stock on droix. I have heard many good comments about their customer service.
@@security9999 I've heard nothing, but it can only be better then GPDs.
Gonna replace all my machines with this + and eGPU for when at home.
Can it run Squadron TD and Line Tower Wars on Starcraft 2 on minimum settings? (Those custom games are harder to run than the normal game)
once my steam deck becomes obsolete, you bet i'll be picking up something from the win max line once it becomes even more mature
It's good stuff!
@@retrotechdad one of the reasons i want a win max is because i started primarily using my deck in desktop mode docked as a pc, and because of that i rarely ever want to switch back to gaming mode and use it as a handheld 😂
Are any of the win tools mentioned available on Linux I wonder
One last question. I saw some other ytubers mention about a clean install when they got theirs. Did you clean install windows? Again, thank you!
No worries, ask away! I opted not to do a clean install since it was a fairly vanilla Windows 11 and I was ready to dive right in and do some gaming. 🤣 It does seem to be performing well and I haven't had any Windows errors or crashes.
I know there are concerns about potential malicious software being installed but I am not too concerned about that, GPD has been around a while and this isn't their first Windows device.
@@retrotechdad For a company who's been around for a while they have worse customer support then the Aya-Neo team.
the win 4 umpc form factor looks very compelling
Yes, the size and form factor is really nice!
@@retrotechdad I have owned a GPD win 2 in the past. From my experience the 6 inch screen stresses the eyes, I have perfect vision and didn't have a good experience using it. this might be the only negative about the device always a fan of the PSP. what is your take on the screen size ?
@@arhamahmed2796 smaller screen size means you can get away with running the game at lower resolutions with it looker better seems like and get a fps boost. I reallly like the laptop design tho just for screen protection. its like 3ds. Im concerned about how comfy it is and what happens if you accidentally press keyboard while gaming
Cant wait to get mine but i want to get the 32 n 2 tb
The 32GB RAM would be very nice especially if you are looking to get a few years out of the device.
I just had my win max 2 delivered and it is odd the USB/HDMI ports are upside-down. It's not a huge deal, but it does look odd when you have a thumb drive plugged in. Not sure why this is however.
Do you have gundam vs on ps3? I find that game ran fine on my old Alienware laptop but only runs at 15 fps on the max 2, would be interesting to include as a stress test for ps3 emulation
Interesting, what are the specs of the Alienware? I will have to test it out on my end, I am definitely curious about it.
@@retrotechdad specs were GeForce 2080, i9 9980hk, definitely more powerful than the max 2 but I was surprised by how poorly the max 2 performed for that game considering other TH-cam videos have shown really good speeds even for skate on ps3
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If you could choose only 1 handheld device would it be this or the steam deck? Also how does the fan noise compare to Steam Deck?
I'd choose the WM2, I really enjoy the large display. Not to discredit the Steam Deck, since it's truly hard to beat for performance to price.
I'd say the fan can get pretty noisy under very heavy load.
As a steam deck owner it really matters. For only 1 device I’d choose the win max 2 if using it as a laptop is important to you. BUT if cost matters it cannot compare to the steam deck. I have a custom pc built with an i5 12600k on an NR200P mini itx case and a 3060 ti (will upgrade to 4080 once prices go down later this year) and I Havnt really played games on it because I have my steam deck. You can also out of the box install gog and epic launchers too. Steam deck is so convenient to play anywhere to lounge around and runs excellent even on all my AAA title games at an affordable price!
Watching this on my Win Max 2 😁
Haha, that's awesome! 🤗How are you enjoying it?
@@retrotechdad Yeah it's great thanks, the form factor and i/o of the device is excellent... Wouldn't mind looking into some joystick risers or extenders tho, as the joysticks are a little too flush making them a little difficult to game with, if that makes sense 👍
I use Skull & Co joystick caps (seen in my video) with mine that definitely help. I like the set because you have a couple of different options to work. amzn.to/3wDvC4h
@@retrotechdad Ah very good! I was wondering what size the stick are!
So anything that fits the Nintendo switch sticks!
Thank you very much! Very helpful 😁
Sweet.. so when AMD gonna have mobile Apu that have overall performance settings @ 1080p low settings (while keeping less than 60w) ?
The chips keep getting more efficient but at the end of the day it's really the battery tech that is lacking.
@@retrotechdad thats kinda hard to say with the ongoing raw material shortage, inflation etc but the bigger issue is that the current battery tech in mobile devices like phone and laptops hasn't changed much since the 2000s (excluding the disposable and batteries u see in supermarket & tech stores)
are those the smallest thumb grips from the skull & co. thumb grip set?
No, I am use the CQC Elite caps from the set, they are the thicker ones for sure.
@@retrotechdad do you have the full set? How do the smallest ones fit (are you able to use the magnetic covers)?
@@FS-zt6tm Hi I have the skull & co. thumb grip set and none of them fit under the magnetic covers, and only with the smallest one can you close it without pressing them against the screen.
I got one to replace the gpdwin1 and Gpdwin3 in my camera bag and for my weekly radio show. Unfortunately, I get a lot of BSOD and there is an unknown device in the device manager.
did you do a fresh install of windows when you got the device?
Were you able to catch the codes you were getting on the BSOD? Sometimes it helps narrow down potential issues and other times they are so vague and cryptic that they're useless. 🤣 Can't you tell I do this for my normal day job. 😭
This is what I'd recommend especially because of the BSOD issues right off the bat.
I haven't done a fresh install yet. I did a fresh install on my Gpdwin3 and then the Xbox button never worked again.
The BSOD flashes by in a heart beat. When I check the events viewer, It says that it couldn't dump to the HD because the device. Wasn't ready. I've been planning on having a gopro or something just record it for a day to catch the BSOD.
"Kirby and the Forgotten Land ... relaxing experience"
Did you
Did you get to the final boss
Spring breeze mode 🤫🤫 I'm too old for challenges. 😅
I just orederd mine today £700 A grade from cex
Nice, enjoy it! 🙏
the only issue is like the people are saying on forums is the aim for fps games like halo inf call fo duty aiming is hard to stick on target when moving around especially long ranged aims those switch hall sticks aint the best for that
I'll need to spend some good time with a few FPS games over the next few weeks to see how I like the aiming. The games I tested felt normal to me but I haven't tried any FPS games yet.
While this is a lot more expensive than a Steam Deck, I think it's actually worth it long term if you consider it's upgradeability. WM2 can be upgraded to have a total amount of storage of 9TB's! vs the Steam Deck only capable of 3TB max. WM2 has a 32GB RAM option while Deck only has 16GB max. WM2 is capable of utilizing an eGPU for a boost in performance, even an M.2 eGPU that is relatively easy to access with the 2230 slot on the bottom of the device which offers less performance loss than thunderbolt while the Steam Deck doesn't offer that option. Not to mention all the extra ports and the built in Wifi-6.
But the most overlooked thing that I've come to appreciate about the Win Max 2 is the fact that the battery isn't superglued in. As soon as I saw those early tear down videos where Linus tried to take the battery out of the Steam Deck, I knew it wouldn't bode well for the longevity of the Steam Deck. Literally every portable device will need to have it's battery serviced at some point down the line so making the battery that difficult to replace on the Steam Deck is a head scratcher.
Yes, I think the device has legs and will last a few years if you are looking to use it as a laptop or desktop replacement.
Very good point about the battery, I absolutely hate products that aren't easily serviceable by the end user. I fully believe in the right to repair and as someone concerned about preservation, I hate seeing perfectly useable devices get lost because of things like that.
You actually can use an egpu with the Steam deck through its own m.2 slot. People have done it, but it looks like a pain in the ass.
@@cheeeeezewizzz oculink + win max 2 ...its a addon connector for the older WM2 2022 version. No pain in the behind for that ;)
Don't forget the 64gb variant
is it possible to target a steady 40 fps for some of the harder titles you tested to save battery life without sacrificing too much graphical fidelity? I know 40 hz was the sweet spot on the Steam Deck and honestly I can barely tell the difference between 40 and 60 on the Deck, I was wondering how it would look on the WM2. Also, are you planning on testing an eGPU with the device? I'm also considering this setup instead of a desktop setup.
Yes, you can set a 40 fps cap. I've done that on many other devices for various reasons. You can also set a hard cap on the TDP so it doesn't draw more power than you want it to.
I am planning on getting an eGPU, I need to do some research on which one works well with the WM2. I'd end up taking the GPU out of my desktop and throwing it into one of those enclosures. I really like the idea of having a very mobile and compact "desktop".
@@retrotechdad Same here. It's almost like a beefed up Switch. There's also a setup involving the 2230 NVME slot at the bottom of the WM2 using an NVME to PCIe adapter called ADT-Link R43SG. It's not as seamless as a Thunderbolt eGPU but apparently the performance loss is not as drastic as the former. I'm thinking of comparing both setups.
Oooo, I've very curious about that. 🤔🤗
It would be a surprise if you open the gpd win max 2 and the unit is destroyed and screen is broke
Hi do you know how to hve the keyboard backlight turned off? When I open from closed or sleep it turns back on.
Apparently, there is no way to have it stay off after it has been closed or put to sleep.
@@retrotechdad thank you! I love your complete. Although I already have the device it’s really nice to see someone having the same sentiment on the device. Really really love the machine, my first GPD.
It bugged me too, so I went into advanced power management settings and set it so windows doesn't cut power from usb devices when it idles or sleeps. It worked, but at a cost to the battery.
After a few days I undid it, because it's better with the backlight in dark winter days.
Do you have problems with display out from usb-c? Mine just freezes up every time I plug in a display in any port but the HDMI.
No issues over here, I actually use USB-C on the dock that I have. Have you tested a different cable/dock with the usb-c?
@@retrotechdad Yes I did. 5 usb-c dongles, 1 external usb-c display, 1 egpu. No video out of any usb-c port, in the case of the egpu nothing at all happened.
@@retrotechdad I asked around in comments of other videos too. I got this answer today "Well I dont have any thunderbolt devices so I can't be sure of the egpu support. But yes, I'm suffering the same problem where a USBC display only works in the non USB 4 port."
It seem that there are more levels of brokenness to the display out.
@@ProfWereW No issues with mine. Did you find a solution?
what are those desktop speakers?
The Razer Nommo Chroma
Was trying to check on whether anyone who has GDP WIN MAX2 have had issues with the touchpad? Mine arrived in November but I can't seem to get the Touchpad to work. It was working for 2 weeks then stopped working. Has done a full driver reinstall and Touchpad firmware update but still no go...
I had mine for a month or so, used it too. I didn't had any problems with my touchpad, it's quite good for its size and placement. I have a company laptop with a trackpad about 5x the size of the WM2 and it still manages to be worse.
I have a problem with my USB4, it doesn't work when I plug in a display in my dongle or an external display directly in the usb-c port.
@@ProfWereW If anyone fine this looking for solution found out it was as l windows being stupid. Created another local just and using that user toddler works fine. Couldn't be bothered to figure out what caused first user to lose touchpad access. Also it was great but since getting my steam deck the Win Max 2 has been gathering dust. Playing games on the deck is just so much better and SteamOS actually somehow okay games better and not drain better so bad that playing portably is possible on decent settings that I've not been able to get out of the Win Max.
720p benchmarks woulda been nice. High fps 720p gaming is what you should be striving for with this device given that 720p would be the easiest resolution for this display to scale to
800p is ideal since it's half of it's native resolution, 1600p (integer scaling makes it perfect)
where did u buy those thumbs? link and name
They are the Skull & Co joystick caps, you can grab them from here: amzn.to/3WgrUZl
@@retrotechdad thanks
Does it have analog triggers?
Yes, they are analog triggers.
what is the refresh rate of the monitor?
its 60hz
Are you on 16gb or 32gb ram? Torn between the two
My unit is the base 16GB, I find it to be more than enough for everything I've thrown at it.
@@retrotechdad Not much lag when alt tabbing from games to chrome?
No, everything is quite responsive and that's with Windows 11.
Still waiting for droix to ship mine... Ordered on Nov 9th...
That is VERY unusual for Droix, they should've shipped it out already. I'd definitely reach out to them or I can do it for you on Discord. 🤗
@@retrotechdad thank you! Yes please !
I reached out to Droix on FB, I forgot their Discord handle. Anyways, they told me you should reach out to them by e-mail: support@droix.co.uk
They will definitely get you squared away, they are usually VERY responsive.
@@retrotechdad dang dude thank you I really appreciate you going out of your own way , thank you 🙏
@@retrotechdad I just reached out though email, hopefully they respond soon enough thanks again !
ok didnt expect to see myself here lmao
Wow, didn't expect to see you here either! 🤗🤩
Thank you for your work and awesome contributions to the community!
@@retrotechdad thanks for the shout-out for the guide, some people provided some videos and we just added them to the guide in addition to the text instructions so it's easier to understand for less savvy people as well :)
I like the device but refuse to buy unless a reputable case manufacturer makes a grip for it
That's very valid, I do wish we had more options beyond the 3D printed ones.
potato mode is always good for the soul
Hahaha, yes! 🤗🥔🥔
So I think you either like the form factor or you don't.. There are now a few options of 680m devices so you can chose to go for something smaller or more hand-holdy... personally I think all the options are over priced.
Over priced in that you can get better performance out of a gaming laptop for the same money.... but then these devices are not gaming laptops.
Paying over 1000 bucks for something running a 680M is nuts... the graphics are getting there but not yet perfect for 60 fps gaming on high settings, we need another gen or two before we have that... when we do then i'd say its worth paying 1000+ for one of these devices.
Buy a Deck.. play your back catalogue for two years and then look at it again.
I think the ability to hook these devices up to an eGPU makes them worth it imo. You can get a razer core x for dirt cheap and a second hand 3070 for pretty cheap nowadays and this setup is pretty capable as a desktop/supercharged laptop. The Steam Deck doesn't have this option.
You can also get m.2 eGPUs if thunderbolt doesn't provide enough bandwidth for what you need to use it for but from my experience, a Razer Core X+3070 is good enough to run games at max settings/1440p
@@FS-zt6tm yeah the Steam Deck misses out not having eGPU compatibility... it would have given it a lot of longevity.
@@FS-zt6tm And with a Steam Deck, you'll be tinkering for hours trying to get the perfect setting for each game. My older eyes are loving the 10" IPS screen too. :)
This is just a modern day netbook with incredibly unergonomic controller built in. I mean don't get me wrong, it's a powerful netbook, but this thing is a even more niche product in an already niche segment of the computer market.
💯 agree about it being in a niche within a niche. The built-in controller is actually surprisingly comfortable!
I have a max 2 also, and while your generalization is correct, nobody else has a laptop with built in controls so this definitely fills a very specific niche
No battery life test? Adios 😊
Battery Testing is in the video @ 31:33