Top 5 Worst Blaster Grips
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 พ.ค. 2024
- We discussed my top 5 best blaster grips, and now we're gonna count down the worst. Ergonomics often has to bow to function, like, for instance, the Dart Zone Pro Mk II. But boy, some blasters have no excuse.
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0:00 Opening & Introduction
0:22 Intro to Ergonomics
0:49 Number Five
2:52 Number Four
4:13 Number Three
5:22 Number Two
6:51 Number One
8:12 Honorable Mentions
11:15 Closing Remarks
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What do you think? What's the worst grip you've felt. Let us know below!
First reply
Worst grip I've felt is the double dealer storing 2 18 rounders in the stock
poops grip, its too mushy
Hello there
My worst grip is the Buzbee alpha rogue. Don't own it but felt it
Original Alpha Strike has entered the chat.
They need to make new blasters
*coop identifies*
You should have brought Coop772 in for this topic!! 😂😂😂
honestly, surprised no skeletal grips showed up on the list
I feel like you said Doomlands 2021, do you know something you're not telling us?? Are we about to have an apocalypse!?!? Is it going to be a massive HvZ twist where it turns out the zombies are real!?!? Aaaaaaaaahhhh!!!!!!
Seriously though, great video as always thank you! 💜🧡
This is the first time I can remember someone really talking too seriously about the ergo of the DZP Mk2. I kind of think that maybe they should have made the grip slightly bigger and had it hold 7 or 8 darts so they could do a better job with how it holds. Still want to get one.
Nerf peaked early with the Maverick grip.
Wow, I had that blue classic blaster and that sure brought back some memories when you pulled it out.
Everybody’s list will be a little bit different. I’ve similar sized hands and played 4 months at ADL with a modified desolator, I guess I was making it work before I got my FDL-3 from Jackie and Jesse. Love the post Luke!
*Me with my hands that are exactly the same size as Luke’s*
“Gee I hope he does more videos like these”
10:18 That darn sharp edge on the DZP MK2
glad someone else pointed it out.
near as I can see that edge is just cosmetic, there's no functional reason it couldn't have just been rounded off
I hope Dart Zone considers doing a revision. (they have updated other blasters before)
Are you ever gonna put that mark 2 back together?
Eventually, I imagine we will. But we're not done playing with the insides yet. It'll definitely be its own future video.
I just want to say, thank you so much for making this video! I really hoped you would! When you said that you're pretty picky when it comes to ergonomics, all I could think of was Coop..😂😂
When you brought out the "honorable mentions" and I saw the DZP MK 2, I actually said "wha??" out loud. I also want to add that the grip on the Kolt is far from the best grip, but it's not the worst I've held. For smaller hands like mine, it usable, but my main issues with it is the deep ridge (that the catch sits in) that runs from the bottom of the grip to the underside of the trigger guard(which is present in the Bigshock, Nano fire, and some of the a Jolt "reskins"), and the lack of a beaver tail (for those who don't know, that's the curved part at the top back of the grip, where the webbing between you thumb and index finger sits in).
Luckily, the ridge issue can be mostly solved (for the Bickshock, you can 3D print a cover for that ridge) by carefully covering it with some duct/Gorilla tape.
It's a good thing Beret gave you that Amp for you to demonstrate with today :p
I liked the honorable mention of the DZP MkII. While the whole blaster clearly has a lot more design than the vast majority of stuff in the hobby, it was a matter of refinement really; a good example about how much difference a millimetre or two can make in ergonomics.
OoD
Yes this was fantastic. Your videos are super awesome. Would like to see maybe best and worse stocks if you have time. Keep up the great work. Thanks for all you do for our hobby.
Honestly I don’t know why they forgot how good the original N-strike grips were. (Recon, A-Trooper, Stampede) Coop, an absolute giant, finds them comfortable, and me, a hobbit, find them comfortable.
Good video! I'm glad to see I am not the only one who doesn't like Jolt grips much. On a related note, I never have been a fan of the Triad's grip either, I just never found it comfortable. While I have never used the Doomlands Desolator before, I understand where you're coming from with it. I have similar issues with the Tech Target Eliminator as well. I love the blaster and I do think it is comfortable for the most part, but the trigger I feel is placed too far back and I have a tendency to hold it the way you held the Desolator. If it was just moved forward some, I think it'd be fine.
If we had to talk about pump grips though, the Air Tech 3000 is certainly one for me. The main grip itself is very comfortable, but the pump grip totally sucks simply because you can't really grip it much.
I have so many memories of bad buzz bee grips
The contempt for the Ultra line is palpable and hilarious. 😂
One of the few things that can unite us as a community.
5:26
*ANGERY BERT NOISES*
Honorable mention, The Rebelle Fearless Fire and that aweful rev trigger
You could just make this top 5 list with early 2000's BuzzBee grips lol
Fantastic choices!!!
On a personal note, upon painting my MK2 in a total of 3 layers of paint (blue, lavender, clear coat) the thickness of the layers now make the back side below the plunger tube more smooth and even squishy, eliminating my complaint of the sharper corners cutting into the tip of my thumb knuckle!
I personally really like the mk-2 grip. I’ve been using it in HvZ as a side arm since I got it and sometimes a primary because it is so fun.
Really surprised to see no Buzz Bee. They haven't made a blaster with a decent grip yet. My particular favorite is the Thermal Hunter which has a grip so small only a 4 year old can hold it, but needs someone much older to have the wingspan to prime the pump grip.......
Go and try Abraham's M16, the Exterminator, the Eradicator, the Champion, the Revolution, the Rebel Mech, and a few others. Lots of good grips, just have to try the range of blasters to find them.
The Sling strike is the worst I've used.
It has the skeletal build of the alpha strike line but designed in such a way that it actually cuts in to your hand as you you use the blaster.
Its quite impressive how they managed to do it..
Alpha Strike's 'ribbed for your displeasure' skeleton grips
Rebelle has some pretty bad grips (usually because they're tiny) but the Star Shot is one of the most comfortable blasters I own.
Micro Shots is full of awful grips (the Star Lord one might have the worst) but I guess they get a pass because they're essentially Nerf Funko Pops
relived crossbolt, outbreaker bow, hyperfire, and apollo
hey Luke, what do u think is the best rival blaster either than the promethous, the nemesis, and the perses?
I loved my Sharpshooter back in early 90s, when the darts had fins on them.
unrelated to the video but I'm making a nerf sniper rifle and was wondering if I should use a pump and air tank or a powerful motor in the stock that powers two belts in the barrel instead of flywheels so the round has time to accelerate to full speed.
how's you guys holding blasters with rev trigger ,i having hard time holding grip with 3 finger (ring finger, pinky and thumb)
9:06 OOD out of context
The first grip you showed, I usually complain about the rival grips being too small Lol, I have absolutely huge hands
Hi I'm a big fan and I wanted to say I'm from Minnesota as well and I watched your video on the mn battle in 2019
Where do you live?
Upcoming MK2 Replacement Slide Grip?
Let me guess, your MK2 is missing the side panel because you're currently prototyping a 3d printed Slide Replacement?
if that's the case, I hope yours addresses the screw posts on the plunger tube cracking from lack of support... a slide that internally closely cradles the PT instead of just pushing on those small posts would help relieve stress...
Honorable Mention to the extreme skeletonization of the Rebelle Messenger
You should bring Frank Cooper for this video, about grips, he is a like those tasters that goes to restaurants. In a good way, I love your videos Frank!
First, did Luke forget about Buzz Bee blasters?
Second, I cut off a Maverick grip and put it behind my Desolator's grip. It puts my finger in the right place, but now it has the problem that the Hera grip does, just primarily in one direction. I'ma redo the grip by completely removing the old one, and making a new one far enough back to put the trigger in the right place, and move the rev trigger if I need to.
I don’t understand why Luke is being so generous to Buzz Bee blasters in this video hahah.
Aside from owning a Desolator(but I’ve heard bad things about the grip), the rest are spot on.
I like the Hera but that oversized grip made me store it away. Helios with a similar form factor has way better ergo, although I guess you have to account Hera having an extra rev trigger.
Ultra grip is soo bad. Ultra blasters are front-heavy so a lot of stress would be on the fingers in front while gripping. Yet they put this jagged bump on the front of the grip.
Elite 2.0, definitely NOT an upgrade over the Elite in any shape or form, especially grips.
The MK II has an overrated grip. It’s cool they gave us extra weight with the metal. But the grip itself is just a blocky rectangle with no style. Given how great the MK I grip is, I thought the MK II should be at least as good.
Side note: Hi Luke, I saw you had the priming [grip] off the MK II, it got me excited for if you’re gonna design a new priming [grip] for it. I don’t like how when you’re aiming, the back of the prime sticks out from the rest of the blaster, it just looks silly.
The babies part was hilarious.
my worst experience is the Modulus ECS-10, that handle digs into your thumb that sores you to the next day
Weird to call rough ergonomics "function over form." Ergonomics is part of function. They are just stressing one function over another: Launching the dart over holding the blaster or pulling the trigger. Or in the case of the Jolt, the function of launching a dart in the smallest package possible; which really means it is a case of form (size) over function (holding blaster and squeezing the trigger).
I had to pull out my own jolts when you brought yours up, and it really shows how much a difference hand size can make. For me the grip size is a little tight, (and the finger divots don't line up right) but I can actually fit my entire hand around the grip, while you quite clearly can't.
I've got little baby hands and the Rival Knockout is by far the worst one I own. I actually mostly own X-Shot blasters with some buzzbees and a few Nerfs in there, all of which combined barely outnumber my 3D printed ones. But the Knockout just... by little hands can barely hold it.
Which is excusable since it justifies the huge grip because of the plunger tube, but what isn't excusable is the trigger. It's the worst trigger I've ever used. Heavy trigger pull, with a sliver of plastic. There's a 3D printable trigger sleeve on Thingiverse which took me 8 minutes to print and completely reversed my opinion of the blaster. Once it had a good trigger, I could appreciate it.
Modulus ECS10 just makes my hand hurt. I had to make inserts for it
I don't know what the worst blaster grip is but my absolute favorite is actually the grip on the super soaker thunderstorm! Even though it sprays water instead of darts, it's still my favorite grip of all time
I don’t like the Hera grip because on my model above the grip is a cut thing and it digs into my hand and i was bleading the other day
Where's the other side of the slide on your DZP Mk2?
We're working on possible mods for it! - Perry
I hear ya, measured my own hand the same way, mine are slightly bigger. Buying gloves is a nightmare.
Worst grip ever: Nerf N-strike Reflex IX-1....
what happened to that mk2?
doomlands 2021: looks like we do not have a apocalypse filled with monsters. 🤣
Ugh, that revolver! 😳
My real problem with the Hera grip is the giant bump in the beaver tail. It makes my hand sore even when I don't use it for that long.
I actually completely disagree with most of the blasters you put on this list, ngl.
There are so many blasters that are *so much worse*
Like, to name a few, alpha strike blasters, the rebelle messenger, or literally anything buzzbee. (Think... tek-6, or berserker)
I just think the blasters you listed are minor complaints compared to those blasters, ngl
I kind of love the Finisher grip. But I’ll deny it if you ask.
im literally holding my desolator right now. i have huge hands and its really comfortable
I thought that too. Until I shot it for more than ten minutes. And...cramp
I also have large hands, usually wear large or extra large gloves. I have used the desolator at many events included all of a 2 day event. I don't find it to be the best grip by any means, but I don't find it nearly as uncomfortable as many other grips. Have also not had quite the same issues with it, but that is likely due to hand shape.
First large issue with the desolator grip it’s too damn small
The Ultra AMP... Ultra to me seems like Nerf's attempt to target the short dart crowd which is all adults, several years too late. Like come on, fall 2019 the same time as Dart Zone's Pro Mk 1. HALF DARTS already existed in the hobby it's what the big kids play with and when the big kids are playing with 90fps and up seemed super short sited to make a dart type that according to Drac's sources the testing team behind the Ultra Dart was trying hard to get it 120ft with very little luck. So to this day. I don't get it.
Personally, I don't want any kid under 11 (12 would be ideal) to play with more than high 70's fps. And Ultra shoots as hard as Rival which was marketed towards an older crowd which real-world translates to high school and college-age because they have money. So why they would do what they are still doing is beyond me. Obviously, it's because of money. But for who? Dumb Parents who don't know what they're buying?
Like Nerf does make more solid products, but... some of their marketing is just. Dumb. I've said it once, and I'll say it again. Currently, you can get Vortex, Elite, Mega, Demolisher Rockets, Rival, Hyper, and Ultra. Yes, you can still find some Vortex here and there on shelves like Walgreens and CVS and such. Why? What is the actual point? AND Many groups and outdoor areas are just refusing Hyper blasters because it's little rubber balls. It's as close to an actual jell ball blaster as you can get, PLUS a scavenger hunt. It's a terrible color that blends into grass, it gets too dirty to quick in dirt, animals will eat it, it'll get into water sources and supplies. It's just pollution. I know why tho. Because other people made clone ammo. Because Nerf refused to retire the elite dart and replace it with waffle darts. Ultra has been out for two whole years and they finally released a dart that MIGHT hit something. Can't wait for someone to make Ultra knock-offs with an actual waffle tip.
No seriously, Nerf can't be making a ton a money on darts and such, you can never buy large quantities anymore. Finding magazines in stores is impossible hell stores don't really even stock a lot of ammo. Ok, I'm stopping I can go on waaaay too long
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You really need to speak with Ed Skar
I like the elite 2.0 grips
My least favorite grip ever has to be the Buzz Bee Berserker. The grip is way too small, it curls weird at the bottom, and the length of pull with the trigger is microscopic
I'm surprised that we went a whole video about terrible grips without a single Buzz Bee mention. They could probably fill this whole list :P
@@smittzero8463 That is a true story
Buzzbee deserves all 5 spots. If you know you know
I dont really understand the Hera grip. Its large and smooth and easy for any size hand to fit into. I would replace the Hera grip with the hammershot
Unprime unprime unprime!..great video ty.
COOP would be proud
No messenger?
I honestly think the boomco halo alien pistol has the most uncomfortable grip ever made
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Top 5 Picatinny foregrips?
You should have a option to buy you stl files
Ultra grips work for me. Idk why.
Now that Blizzard is renaming McCree, I wonder if Hasbro will cease production of the blaster.
How did Alfa strike not make it
I guess they're so bad, we didn't have an example to film with. - Perry
Makes sense
I was sure the buzz bee thermal guns were gonna be on here. They were terrible.
I bought a Hera when I was like 11
It was my least favorite blaster
Oh man, if you did it now then Buzzbee’s new pistol revolver will make 1st
SERIOUSLY. Worst. Grip. Ever.
The Knockout... am I right?!?
heck ya sharpshooter
The phoenix legit just looks stupid, it's like a stryfe decided that it wants to be symmetrical, and puts its batteries in the weirdest place they can be.
I feel like this should be “worst nerf grips”. I have seen so many blaster not on this list at are far worse. (Though some of these were nerf products).
my hands are exactly one inch smaller in both measurements
just want to say pretty much all nerf guns are designed for kids not adults but because i have big hands as a 14 yr old i agree
Would these small grips suit a Tyrannosaur? I ask cos your voice reminds me of a "dinosaur" I saw recently on another Nerfing channel.....(p.s Tyrannosaurus Rex has small hands and arms - that's why they're angry - can't grip blasters properly)
Nerf Rapid Red.
love how all the nerf youtubers have something special, lukes big head, Walcoms small hands, coops big hands, etc
I’m 13 and all of these grips hurt my hands edit:as in too small
My hands are the size of yours. I’m 15. Is this normal?
My hands haven’t gotten larger since I was 14 or 15.
@@outofdarts hmm
*COOP772 ENTERS THE ROOM*
If you’re out of darts just go buy more.
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his hands are so small
Hi
Totally wrong on the desolator, it's a great blaster even more comfortable than a stryfe.
This list is his opinion. You must have small hands.
It is fine to disagree, but the way you said it is not great. You cannot call someone's opinion wrong.
Impossible! The stryfe is too comfy!
You are kidding right?
@@pinkorange4980 yeah, I put a flex grip on all my blasters
@@knixfilms pretty new to owning nerf blasters, Ive been watching nerf reviews for about 2 years though. My only current blasters is the khaos and a pretty modded nexus
I am a 9 year old and I think that the Hera grip is awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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