No need to put the EOS R in crop mode, leave the camera in full frame 1080 60FPS and turn on the digital stabilizer to enhanced and the vignette is completely removed, and you still have all shooting modes enabled.
Hi! The camera is telling me I cannot select 60fps with the 18-35mm on the camera because of "movie cropping" but then movie cropping isn't available to disable. 60fps works fine with my Sigma 50mm on it. Any idea how i can fix this?
Jordan Keith it’s because the newer firmware, if you purchased the lens more recently, includes camera crop by default on the EOS R. See here www.sigma-global.com/en/news/2019/02/21/2033/
Michael Drowley I definitely had to adjust my speedbooster to fix infinity focus, but that’s all it did. Having said that, the 18-35 is quite close to parfocal on all my cameras (4K, 6K, C200, 5D).
Great video! I have a 80D and just brought this lens I’m excited about my choice now and I’ll eventually upgrade to the EOS R so this is even more good news for me
Hai sir I bought this lense yesterday and i used it for video in eos r but it automatically crops and the manual crop function is not working so i cannot shoot in 50fps😔 help me on this should i return
Troy Hasler you're welcome mate! Thanks for the linked in request as well. How's the c100 mk ii? Looking forward at c200 still but running on the BMPCC6K for commercial work now
@@MichaelDrowley The C100 mk II has it's obvious limitations but performs well. Even when compared to the EOS R for 1080p it holds up pretty well - Do you think anyone would want to see a 1080p comparison between the two cameras?
Love the vid, Michael. Apparently you can actually stay in full frame mode, but use the "enhanced stabilization" option to remove the vignetting. That's HUGE! Vlogging with that eis would be perfect too. Would love to hear your thoughts on this
@@roaringlionzofficial Unfortunately I haven't been able to find out how to do that. If it is possible you would need the sigma adapter but try and find someone who has successfully managed to do it first before you go to much further with it!
Do you know a way to do the same but for taking photos? I want to use my lenses for both photo/video but vignetting occurs big time when taking pics at full frame
I purchased the sigma art f 1.8 dc hsm for sony alpha. is there a converter that will make it work on my canon eos 700d? i been struggling with this for weeks please help!
I’m fairly sure that won’t work as the flange distance is too short and there is no focal reducer / adapter that works. You can go the other way from EF to E mount but not E mount to EF unfortunately.
I can't use 60fps with the Sigma 18-35mm on my Eos R, but I can't enable the crop mode... message says" Not available with the attached lens. Anyone have an idea why?
Since that video there may have been a couple firmware changes. I’m not sure you can still allow the camera to go full frame and shoot from 28-35. I think it forces you to shoot in crop mode as if it were an APS-C lens. Let me know how you go with it
I'm from India and I was able to get this lens for 24000 INR equal to 460 AUD or 320 USD I'm incredibly happy with the lens and I too recommend this to anyone who is reading this...
@@MakeKnowledgeFree well I bought pre-owned, of course I ran extensive tests before buying, I bought it from CEX webuy store... They also offered me a 2 year warranty as well, so I'm pretty happy with my purchase 😅
@@alexanderafgan9594 awesome thanks for this great info ....I will keep an eye for this in future for i may need more lenses and they sure get expensive
@@alexanderafgan9594 perfect that's great....referred the site .. I see some awesome lenses ( canon l series lenses ) being available at a bargain here ....thanks again for this site ... shall surely use this to buy lenses in future .....wish knew of this earlier ...
Just bought it for my eos r and 1dx ii. One thing to keep in mind is that some Sigma lenses support "slow autofocus" which gives you the option to change focusing speed in video mode. 18-35 don't have that but the for example 24-70 Art has it. So no buttery smooth focus pulls on the 18-35. It is quite confusing as some canon lenses won't even support this feature. Like 16-35 2.8 ii. I found the 50 mm 1.8 stm very good lens for video and gimbal use. Shooting with that and 18-35 sigma at the moment. Also one thing you should test that what frame rates does eos r output to Ninja V in fullhd when ef-s lens is attached. Because when you put ef-s lens on it, and record, it won't let you shoot anything but 24/25/30fps in fhd or 4k. But when you try to record to Ninja V it records only 50/60 in full HD with full frame ef glass. Could it record 50/60 with ef-s glass to Ninja V?
That's a really good point about slow focus. Thanks for bringing that up. I also use the 50mm f1.8 STM but I find if the subject is moving around a lot it can miss focus then hunt before it locks on again. Not good when you are using it for your main A camera. That's a good point about what it can record output to Ninja V with an ef-s lens. I wouldn't be able to confirm as I no longer have a way to test with a 4K external recorder. I tried with a HDMI to my computer but the camera recognised this was not able to output 10bit 4K so wouldn't let me test. What I do know is that you cannot record FHD 1920 x 1080 50/60 with an EF-S lens attached. It will only record 720p 50/60 fps.
@@MichaelDrowley Thank you for you answer! Lets see if the firmware update makes the 50mm 1.8 perform bit better. I actually shot one short commercial with it and it wasn't too bad. My subjects were pretty static though. I might test the aps-c mode with my friends ninja V. I'll get back to you if it can record full hd in 50/60 with it in aps-c mode.
Brad Houston Legend Brad! Glad it was helpful man. Basically gives you a 35mm and a 50mm 1.8 sharp prime equivalent for a fraction of the price. It’s a no brainer!
Thanks for the video Michael. Did you actually receive your BMPCC 6K as you mentioned in an other one of your videos? If so, does this lens fit the BMPCC 6K without an adapter? I am still tossing up which lens to buy for my BMPCC 6K.
Hi mate, yeah we did get the BMPCC6K and run the sigma on it for most of what we shoot (real estate and corporate work). The EF version of the lens most certainly runs native on the BMPCC6K. For a look at a Music video we recently DP'd on with the BMPCC6K and Sigma 18-35 check it out here th-cam.com/video/R30Y-C8KLEw/w-d-xo.html
Hey brother I have this lens for my eos r. And noticed with a new r update it now's auto crops 1.6 when you connect this lens , which removes almost all vignetting and honestly I love it! Because it's like having a 30-60mm 1.8. but does that mean I sacrifice sharpness when taking photos that way? Or will I still get the full 30megapixels if I take pictures with it on crop mode?
I think when you take photos you’ll get full frame still so at 18 it will vignette heavily and will still vignette up to about 28mm. Not sure though on the new firmware. Take some shots and see how it performs!
No, it works as it should on the camera in 4K mode with native canon glass. There have been reports of issues with the AF and this lens for the EOS R but I found it to be flawless for face tracking when I tested it. I have not had the lens on the EOS R though to test the Eye AF as yet since the firmware update so can't comment on that.
I’m considering getting the RF 18-35. However I thought that the sigma would be a great alternative when I primarily want to use it for 4K Video. For the price, how did you like the photos?
Matt Gissentanna I never used it for photography actually. But for video it’s a great lens. Pretty sharp right across and AF on the canon is spot on like Sigma art in general. That RF though... is killer!!!
Great summary. I use this combo - it definitely needs additional stabilisation in the crop mode to counteract the jitters and rolling shutter artefacts :)
Hi Michael, so basically when you put the Eos R in crop mode 1080p or in 4k, this lens is the equivalent to 30-60 F1.8 .... for this price!!! Is it comparable with the RF 28-70 F2 (used in full frame)?
Michael Bouhnik Correct on the equiv focal length in crop mode and 4K however the depth of field of the crop sensor would be closer to 2.8 in terms of how it looks due to reduction in sensor size and that RF lens is one of the best on the market so I wouldn't say it's optically equivalent... But the Sigma is a beautiful looking lens and is nice and sharp so for the money it's a worthwhile purchase
Ivar Rain on this camera at about 28 it really shines. I mostly shoot it at 1.8 or 2.2 but I believe focus is best across the lens from 2.8 up to about f11.
I don't understand why I can't choose crop or uncrop mode like you. It just says 'doesnt work with the attached lense' which is the exact same lense I use 18-35 1.8. I can only use it in the cropped version 13 mega pixels... Am I missing something???
@@MichaelDrowley I'm running the 1.4. on the eos r. I haven't checked on the sigma though. Just got it today. Could it be firmware on the lense I need to upgrade? Great video btw!
There is some info to suggest it could be either the new firmware which apparently forces the camera to recognise the lens as APS_C and treat it like it would an EF-S lens which will not give you the full frame option. The lens I had in the video was purchased about 2 years ago y previous owner and it worked like it did in the video without issue in full frame and cropped mode.
@@MichaelDrowley Dang... I really wanted to use it on full frame format at 35mm. Guess there's nothing to do about it 😅 Thank you so much for your input 🙏
you gave all kinds of info I needed and your popcorn eating made me wanna subscribe! lol I love authenticity I guess :) Thank you for the awesome video, I will probably bombard you with questions once I can get my hands on Eos r5 when it comes out soon. buying the sigma now :) WIth Eos r5 and sigma 18-35 combo, would you go ronin s or sc??
Hey there. When using this Sigma EF lens do you have to use an adapter if you use it on the Canon EOS RP? Also is there a crop when you use it for photo or video or notice any less quality since it's an EF mount lens?
JDproAV As I shown in the video it will work uncropped in full frame 1080 but only from about 28mm to 35mm. Otherwise it vignette quite a bit. It vignette badly from 18mm getting gradually less as you approach 28mm.
Ramy A Yeah, it will be equivalent APSC crop in 1080p. Good for 4K shooters as the 4K will be same crop as EF lenses. The EOS R will automatically go into crop mode when an EF-S lens is fitted.
Ramy A APSC is good for photographers if you need more reach for your lenses. A lot of wildlife photographers use APSC bodies with longer lenses. I would say it’s better to shoot full frame though as a photographer to use the whole sensor.
Super awesome detailed vid, thanks dude! I was looking at this lens as an entry level new lens for my RP as I have the 24-105 but am looking for a more vlogging orientated lens. What do you think between getting this sigma or waiting a bit for a canon image stabilised lens? I don’t have massively shakey hands but if its a difference of a few hundred dollars when buying a canon second hand... patience is really a virtue :D
Thanks Danny! I would get something more suited to The RP full frame. The sigma is great but for vlogs you can't open the lens up all the way to the 18mm without vignetting. If you are sticking to 4K vlogs, then the lens may work for you but there has been a firmware update on the lens and the RP body since I released this video so I wouldn't be sure it will work the same for you as it does for me! I would say the RF 15-35 IS lens is pretty amazing but comes at a premium price of course! Good luck with the purchase decision!
@@MichaelDrowley thanks bud! I think I’m gonna hold out for the premium! My gf has an efs 18-55 and I’m a pretty big bloke so the 24-105 is wide enough too
so if i want to have less blurry image on a video and more sharp let's say on m50 (i travel i can't carry all my camera) i need to boost iso boost aperture? i think more light make the footage less blurry right?
Tonny Milfiger hey Tonny, focus is what gives you sharpness in your image so make sure that is set right for the particular scene. Less blurry backgrounds (or more depth of field) then yes you boost Aperture and then adjust ISO to give you more light. As when you boost aperture you are what’s called “stopping down” the lens which means you are working with a smaller aperture in terms of the size of the hole that the image is projected through onto the sensor but the number of that particular aperture actually increases (get’s bigger) as you “stop down” which means letting less light in.
Hey, I explain in the video. It defaults to crop mode on the EOS R as only has coverage for an APSC size camera sensor. I was able to turn crop mode off and use it natively at 28mm and up to 35mm without vignetting but newer firmware in the EOS R might restrict that now.
It's basically the width of sensor from the crop mode is less than the non crop full frame mode and therefore the achievable focal distance is shorter on the full frame image sensor because in the full frame mode the light coming from the edges of the image sensor has further to travel to produce the image than the crop mode and so it creates more blur. It's tricky to explain in a comment so maybe check out this link on it bit.ly/3ntzAWB
SH Videography That’s a difficult question to answer. In short, no it doesn’t, as you still have all apertures available so no ‘limit” is placed on what it can do but for the same framing between the cropped in sensor and full frame sensor with the same lens on both, the full frame will maintain a larger out of focus background than the cropped sensor area because with the cropped sensor area you have to move further away from the subject to get the same framing as full frame. explains it pretty well in this post - fstoppers.com/education/understanding-how-sensor-size-affects-depth-field-312599
Michael Drowley I still work for now, b/c I need to use my personal credit, haven’t created enough business credit, but I’ll say this: I should have done this a long time ago, it’s very liberating. I actually got my camera gear to shoot commercials and build my brand.
bigdap100 That's awesome man. I started out doing 9 months full time as a producer for someone else then worked after hours on building my own brand. Was busy but rewarding and from there I launched into my.own business. You should Vlog a bit about your journey! Keep chargin
Michael Drowley yeah bro, I really hope you keep going and achieve your goals for you and your family. We have to make this work so I’ll kids won’t be slaves to this corporate bullsh@t.
No, only 60fps in 720p in crop mode. You can however opt to shoot without the crop mode where you can shoot from about 28mm in 60fps 1080p. Hope that helps
Do you have a 60 fps with Sigma 18 - 35 on your EOS R? When I check menu it seams not available in FULL HD mode. Wonder if thats only in my case and unfamiliarly with EOS R menu settings.
I do have 50/60, yes but it doesnt do FHD 1920 x 1080 in cropped mode. Only 1280 x 720p ALL-I. It is a decent 80 Mbps codec but haven't tested quality against a non cropped lens using the FHD 50/60. But for all my 50/60 I will shoot with non-cropped glass.
@@MichaelDrowley I have noticed that with other Full Frame lenses it works. Most probably 18 to 35 SIGMA needs a firmware upgrade via SIGMA DOCK. Not 100 % sure yet if that's the issue. Im trying to find out. It's a grate lens and I want to take advantage of this. rather than swapping to another for 50/60 fps.
Great video, question- I just bought the EOS-R and I have the sigma lens 18-35 if I buy the speed booster and shoot full frame 1080p will it completely blow it out?? To wide??
It’s not something I have thought of trying. If you’re talking metabones 0.71 crop It might actually work really well. I think though it may not allow all the way to 18mm but should come pretty close stay 20mm without vignette.
I’ve not tested unfortunately. I’d assume it would be ok, but you’d have to try it first to see if the firmware plays nicely between the camera and lens.
Besides the usefulness in 4K and crop mode, would you rate this lens as the equivalent of having 28mm and 35 mm 1.8 full frame primes when used on the EOS R?
LEGACY FITNESS If you can afford, go for primes or an F2.8 like the 15-35 RF or 24-70 RF or 28-70 F2. Otherwise 24mm f1.4 L EF (with EF to RF adapter) and 35 f1.8 RF is a very nice combo.
@@MichaelDrowley i understand but i meant that when used it uses smaller area on the sensor and now u have 10 mp camera so like camera from 10 years ago. Or maybe i missed something.
Adam Kucharuk I get your point I think. You are talking about the crop mode on the camera and the APS-C lens forcing the camera into crop mode? This is only true for Canon APS-C lenses Canons EF-S lenses. The sigma allows you to use it as a native full frame lens and doesn't force the camera into crop mode. You also suggest 10 MP but the crop to APS-C from Full frame is 1.6 and means the camera is therefore 18MP equivalent in crop mode.
@@MichaelDrowley from what i was told at canon store if u put apsc lens on canon rp it becomes apsc camera and from 26 mp uses only 10 mp do it becomes like 500d. I am not talking only of crop factor.
@@kucharukadam Ok for RP that is different than EOS R with smaller lower MP sensor. For photo the camera would become 15MP and video would become 13MP for 1080p and 4K. The APS-C lenses have a mount that tells the camera that an APS-C lens is attached. The Sigma (and other third party APSC lenses) use an EF lens mount and not an EF-S lens mount so therefore you have to set the R/RP to movie cropping to avoid vignetting in video mode.
Thank you so much for the video. I am looking to get into videography and glad I watched this video... Can we use this lense for photography as I was been told that there will be vignette when taking pictures
Thanks for your comments. For photography on a full frame DSLR and EOS R or RP mirrorless the focal length you can use without vignetting will be restricted to about 30-35mm. Wide open it will show vignetting. If you use however on a crop APS-C sensor body like the 7D Mark ii or the new 90 D then you will be able to use the normal zoom range of the lens.
@@MichaelDrowley yes, that's what it looked like! very nice! I just got an EOS R a couple of days ago and I am wrestling with what lens to get. (currently have the RF 35mm). But a 24mm F1.4 would be pretty sweet! But now, this 18-35 has got me thinking. 28mm F1.8 for $600 CAD (used) is a pretty sweet deal!
Arif Khan The sigma is better for BMPCC6K. A little bit fiddly with the full frame vignette on the R but definitely a stellar look to the image. On par with the 24mm 1.4 for sure
@@MichaelDrowley I noticed a slight color and contrast change between the EF 24mm F1.4 and the sigma @28mm F1.8. Wondering if you did anything in post, or that's just the look from the lens?
Because I generally use an off camera microphone (or at least a Rode videomic pro on the camera hotshoe) I did not notice any issues with AF noise. This might be something worth checking with other creators though an on camera shotgun like the Rode videomic pro or a boom mic clean that up for you if you did want really clear audio with no AF noise.
@@MichaelDrowley Thank you very much for your kind reply. Now, I used a Sony, But I was dissatisfied with the color. So I searching Canon EOS-R and watched your video review. I bought Sigma 18-35mm lens yesterday. The store staff it doesn't recommend using crop lenses on full-frame body. But after watching your videos, and watching many TH-cam reviews, I was convinced. Try EOS-R and Sigma Lenses!
This vinette is awfull. Totaly useless for me. I have EOS 700D and this Lens and I don't have that problem. Do you know a good mirrorles camera that works fine with that lens?
Yeah, they are. But 4K on the EOS R crops in so when I made this the lens worked great for 4K on the EOS R. Not sure if this video is still relevant though with firmware updates. While back now when I made this one!
Opinionated Conversations With Bernie G. It might be forcing your camera into crop mode with this lens. I think there has been firmware updates on both camera and lens since my video. I’m still able to get the lens to shoot in full frame 1080 though.
Thumbs up here if you found my ASMR Easter egg! I mean who doesn’t like Popcorn, am I right?
Michael Drowley Great video! Audio is really nice too!
No need to put the EOS R in crop mode, leave the camera in full frame 1080 60FPS and turn on the digital stabilizer to enhanced and
the vignette is completely removed, and you still have all shooting modes enabled.
Teddy Tedd Genius idea! Thanks Teddy
Is the vignetting completely removed even at 18mm?
what are your camera settings? movie cropping for me is greyed out and I can't shoot 1080 60
Hi! The camera is telling me I cannot select 60fps with the 18-35mm on the camera because of "movie cropping" but then movie cropping isn't available to disable. 60fps works fine with my Sigma 50mm on it. Any idea how i can fix this?
Jordan Keith it’s because the newer firmware, if you purchased the lens more recently, includes camera crop by default on the EOS R. See here www.sigma-global.com/en/news/2019/02/21/2033/
My favorite lens! You're gonna love it on the BMPCC6K!
Tyler Edwards Thanks bro, I can’t wait to get it running on the BMPCC
Tyler Edwards Have you made yours Par focal with the BMPCC4K?
Michael Drowley unfortunately it isn’t a parfocal lens (pretty close though) nor is there a way I know of to do that.
Tyler Edwards I think you can adjust the metabones adapter to make it Par Focal. th-cam.com/video/A1kToCfGkq0/w-d-xo.html
Michael Drowley I definitely had to adjust my speedbooster to fix infinity focus, but that’s all it did. Having said that, the 18-35 is quite close to parfocal on all my cameras (4K, 6K, C200, 5D).
Thank you, this is exactly what I needed. I do beauty videos and the crop mode settings you shared are spot on!
Great video! I have a 80D and just brought this lens I’m excited about my choice now and I’ll eventually upgrade to the EOS R so this is even more good news for me
darealphantom I’m in the same boat as you, I will be looking towards Eos R but wanna keep the lens
Hai sir I bought this lense yesterday and i used it for video in eos r but it automatically crops and the manual crop function is not working so i cannot shoot in 50fps😔 help me on this should i return
Thanks for your comment. Sorry I never got back to you on this! Did you end up returning the lens?
I have a the sigma 18-35 that I use on my Sony a 6300 but my gf who has a canon rebel t7 wants to use my lens is there an adapter I can use?
Unfortunately not I don’t think
So detailed!! Great job.....really helpful❤️❤️
Thanks Gina!
Love this lens. Been using it now for nearly 3+ years.
I was looking at this lens to go with my C100 mark II and wondered how it would work on my EOS R and now I know!! Thanks for this video!
Troy Hasler you're welcome mate! Thanks for the linked in request as well. How's the c100 mk ii? Looking forward at c200 still but running on the BMPCC6K for commercial work now
@@MichaelDrowley The C100 mk II has it's obvious limitations but performs well. Even when compared to the EOS R for 1080p it holds up pretty well - Do you think anyone would want to see a 1080p comparison between the two cameras?
@@mindfulnessmovement8197 I'd love to see that comparison :)
Really useful, dude. Thanks a lot
Love the vid, Michael. Apparently you can actually stay in full frame mode, but use the "enhanced stabilization" option to remove the vignetting. That's HUGE! Vlogging with that eis would be perfect too. Would love to hear your thoughts on this
Thanks for the tip! That sounds like a good way to go!
@@roaringlionzofficial Pretty sure firmware updates to either lens and or EOS R means it forces this lens to APC now.
@@roaringlionzofficial Unfortunately I haven't been able to find out how to do that. If it is possible you would need the sigma adapter but try and find someone who has successfully managed to do it first before you go to much further with it!
Do you know a way to do the same but for taking photos? I want to use my lenses for both photo/video but vignetting occurs big time when taking pics at full frame
Great Video. I have a question though, Have you used the Sigma USB Dock?
I purchased the sigma art f 1.8 dc hsm for sony alpha. is there a converter that will make it work on my canon eos 700d? i been struggling with this for weeks please help!
I’m fairly sure that won’t work as the flange distance is too short and there is no focal reducer / adapter that works. You can go the other way from EF to E mount but not E mount to EF unfortunately.
Thank you 🙏🏾
Do you still retain 1080p 60fps on the eos r with the 18-35?
What are you shooting with in this video?
The EOS R!
I can't use 60fps with the Sigma 18-35mm on my Eos R, but I can't enable the crop mode... message says" Not available with the attached lens. Anyone have an idea why?
It could have been through firmware upgrades for lens and camera since my video. Is it working fine shooting with it in 4K?
Love my 18-35
What about this lens for photography with EOS R5/R6 camera?
Will 18mm focal length will cause Vigenette?
Yeah, it will have a vignette when using at 18mm for photography.
It’ll look great at 35 though! 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
great video mate, i have a sigma 18-35 and just ungrading to eos r so its great that i can still use my lens
Since that video there may have been a couple firmware changes. I’m not sure you can still allow the camera to go full frame and shoot from 28-35. I think it forces you to shoot in crop mode as if it were an APS-C lens. Let me know how you go with it
Awesome video Michael. Great image, any filter used Pro Mist ? I’m still learning so I have to ask for advice.
No filter on this one thought I think I used a vignette to create a bit more mood on this one! Thanks for checking out the video.
I'm from India and I was able to get this lens for 24000 INR equal to 460 AUD or 320 USD
I'm incredibly happy with the lens and I too recommend this to anyone who is reading this...
How did you get it for such a low price ...I had to buy it for 68k
@@MakeKnowledgeFree well I bought pre-owned, of course I ran extensive tests before buying, I bought it from CEX webuy store... They also offered me a 2 year warranty as well, so I'm pretty happy with my purchase 😅
@@alexanderafgan9594 awesome thanks for this great info ....I will keep an eye for this in future for i may need more lenses and they sure get expensive
@@MakeKnowledgeFree yes man I sure can understand that... They even have a website if you wish to reffer to... It's webuy.com
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Just bought it for my eos r and 1dx ii. One thing to keep in mind is that some Sigma lenses support "slow autofocus" which gives you the option to change focusing speed in video mode. 18-35 don't have that but the for example 24-70 Art has it. So no buttery smooth focus pulls on the 18-35. It is quite confusing as some canon lenses won't even support this feature. Like 16-35 2.8 ii. I found the 50 mm 1.8 stm very good lens for video and gimbal use. Shooting with that and 18-35 sigma at the moment.
Also one thing you should test that what frame rates does eos r output to Ninja V in fullhd when ef-s lens is attached. Because when you put ef-s lens on it, and record, it won't let you shoot anything but 24/25/30fps in fhd or 4k. But when you try to record to Ninja V it records only 50/60 in full HD with full frame ef glass. Could it record 50/60 with ef-s glass to Ninja V?
That's a really good point about slow focus. Thanks for bringing that up. I also use the 50mm f1.8 STM but I find if the subject is moving around a lot it can miss focus then hunt before it locks on again. Not good when you are using it for your main A camera. That's a good point about what it can record output to Ninja V with an ef-s lens. I wouldn't be able to confirm as I no longer have a way to test with a 4K external recorder. I tried with a HDMI to my computer but the camera recognised this was not able to output 10bit 4K so wouldn't let me test. What I do know is that you cannot record FHD 1920 x 1080 50/60 with an EF-S lens attached. It will only record 720p 50/60 fps.
@@MichaelDrowley Thank you for you answer! Lets see if the firmware update makes the 50mm 1.8 perform bit better. I actually shot one short commercial with it and it wasn't too bad. My subjects were pretty static though. I might test the aps-c mode with my friends ninja V. I'll get back to you if it can record full hd in 50/60 with it in aps-c mode.
As usual your awesome 👌🏾
Great video man. I’m pumped about this lens. I have the EOS R but don’t yet have really fast lens. Thanks for the heads up!!
😀🕺🏻🎥🏖🇦🇺
Brad Houston Legend Brad! Glad it was helpful man. Basically gives you a 35mm and a 50mm 1.8 sharp prime equivalent for a fraction of the price. It’s a no brainer!
Yep. That’s exactly what I need as I’m still trying to claw my way up. But I think this needs to be my next purchase
@@bradhouston4734 Keep charging ahead!
Heads up the camera won’t be able to shoot 60fps at 1080
@@Ale21620 Yeah, only 720p in crop mode. 1080 slow mo would be non crop mode at between 28mm to 35mm with this lens.
Thanks for the video Michael. Did you actually receive your BMPCC 6K as you mentioned in an other one of your videos? If so, does this lens fit the BMPCC 6K without an adapter? I am still tossing up which lens to buy for my BMPCC 6K.
Hi mate, yeah we did get the BMPCC6K and run the sigma on it for most of what we shoot (real estate and corporate work). The EF version of the lens most certainly runs native on the BMPCC6K. For a look at a Music video we recently DP'd on with the BMPCC6K and Sigma 18-35 check it out here th-cam.com/video/R30Y-C8KLEw/w-d-xo.html
Nice video Michael. Nice to hear a pleasant song. Yo have a new subscriber. I look forward to seeing more of your videos.
GREAT TESTS BROTHER, THANK YOU
Hey brother I have this lens for my eos r. And noticed with a new r update it now's auto crops 1.6 when you connect this lens , which removes almost all vignetting and honestly I love it! Because it's like having a 30-60mm 1.8. but does that mean I sacrifice sharpness when taking photos that way? Or will I still get the full 30megapixels if I take pictures with it on crop mode?
I think when you take photos you’ll get full frame still so at 18 it will vignette heavily and will still vignette up to about 28mm. Not sure though on the new firmware. Take some shots and see how it performs!
Is the autofocus affected when you move it to 4k?
No, it works as it should on the camera in 4K mode with native canon glass. There have been reports of issues with the AF and this lens for the EOS R but I found it to be flawless for face tracking when I tested it. I have not had the lens on the EOS R though to test the Eye AF as yet since the firmware update so can't comment on that.
Michael Drowley great! Thanks!
Dude looks like Ryan Reynolds with a beard!
Belal Khancept 👌🏻😂
I’m considering getting the RF 18-35. However I thought that the sigma would be a great alternative when I primarily want to use it for 4K Video. For the price, how did you like the photos?
Matt Gissentanna I never used it for photography actually. But for video it’s a great lens. Pretty sharp right across and AF on the canon is spot on like Sigma art in general. That RF though... is killer!!!
Michael Drowley thanks man! I’ll do some more research. Might be a good comparison video 😏
Great summary. I use this combo - it definitely needs additional stabilisation in the crop mode to counteract the jitters and rolling shutter artefacts :)
FILM 2.0 Good point you make!
Great video. It basically turns a 18-35mm apc to a full frame 30-55mm 1.8? Or is my math wrong
YA Yeah, 30-60
Michael Drowley awesome thanks
Hi Michael, so basically when you put the Eos R in crop mode 1080p or in 4k, this lens is the equivalent to 30-60 F1.8 .... for this price!!!
Is it comparable with the RF 28-70 F2 (used in full frame)?
Michael Bouhnik Correct on the equiv focal length in crop mode and 4K however the depth of field of the crop sensor would be closer to 2.8 in terms of how it looks due to reduction in sensor size and that RF lens is one of the best on the market so I wouldn't say it's optically equivalent... But the Sigma is a beautiful looking lens and is nice and sharp so for the money it's a worthwhile purchase
Can you tell me the sweet spot of this lens for video?
Ivar Rain on this camera at about 28 it really shines. I mostly shoot it at 1.8 or 2.2 but I believe focus is best across the lens from 2.8 up to about f11.
I don't understand why I can't choose crop or uncrop mode like you. It just says 'doesnt work with the attached lense' which is the exact same lense I use 18-35 1.8. I can only use it in the cropped version 13 mega pixels... Am I missing something???
Between Frames Production Potentially it’s a firmware upgrade either on lens or camera. What camera firmware are you using?
@@MichaelDrowley I'm running the 1.4. on the eos r. I haven't checked on the sigma though. Just got it today. Could it be firmware on the lense I need to upgrade?
Great video btw!
There is some info to suggest it could be either the new firmware which apparently forces the camera to recognise the lens as APS_C and treat it like it would an EF-S lens which will not give you the full frame option. The lens I had in the video was purchased about 2 years ago y previous owner and it worked like it did in the video without issue in full frame and cropped mode.
@@MichaelDrowley Dang... I really wanted to use it on full frame format at 35mm. Guess there's nothing to do about it 😅
Thank you so much for your input 🙏
Hi thanks for your content.
Do you know if we loose résolution megapixls with this lense with canon r5 or Still 50mpxl ?
Hey Yade, i’m not sure. I think it will only be usable in crop mode so I believe you will be taking stills at 1.6 crop.
you gave all kinds of info I needed and your popcorn eating made me wanna subscribe! lol I love authenticity I guess :) Thank you for the awesome video, I will probably bombard you with questions once I can get my hands on Eos r5 when it comes out soon. buying the sigma now :) WIth Eos r5 and sigma 18-35 combo, would you go ronin s or sc??
Thanks friend! I’m so keen on R5! I would definitely go Ronin S because you can then go bigger lenses and not worry.
@@MichaelDrowley Thank you very much for speedy reply. Much appreciated.
Thanks. Have been looking for reviews on how this performs on EOS R. Still, would like this to be DG lens.
Great video! I just bought this lense for my Canon RP 🤘
Hey there. When using this Sigma EF lens do you have to use an adapter if you use it on the Canon EOS RP? Also is there a crop when you use it for photo or video or notice any less quality since it's an EF mount lens?
Will this work in uncropped 1080p mode? I know some lenses do.
JDproAV As I shown in the video it will work uncropped in full frame 1080 but only from about 28mm to 35mm. Otherwise it vignette quite a bit. It vignette badly from 18mm getting gradually less as you approach 28mm.
@@MichaelDrowley I see. thank you.
so you can use af-s lenses on the EOS-R it will be different focal length then what the lens originally is?
Ramy A Yeah, it will be equivalent APSC crop in 1080p. Good for 4K shooters as the 4K will be same crop as EF lenses. The EOS R will automatically go into crop mode when an EF-S lens is fitted.
@@MichaelDrowley so in other words its good for video 4k shooters but not good for regular photographers so to speak?
Ramy A APSC is good for photographers if you need more reach for your lenses. A lot of wildlife photographers use APSC bodies with longer lenses. I would say it’s better to shoot full frame though as a photographer to use the whole sensor.
Super awesome detailed vid, thanks dude! I was looking at this lens as an entry level new lens for my RP as I have the 24-105 but am looking for a more vlogging orientated lens. What do you think between getting this sigma or waiting a bit for a canon image stabilised lens? I don’t have massively shakey hands but if its a difference of a few hundred dollars when buying a canon second hand... patience is really a virtue :D
Thanks Danny! I would get something more suited to The RP full frame. The sigma is great but for vlogs you can't open the lens up all the way to the 18mm without vignetting. If you are sticking to 4K vlogs, then the lens may work for you but there has been a firmware update on the lens and the RP body since I released this video so I wouldn't be sure it will work the same for you as it does for me! I would say the RF 15-35 IS lens is pretty amazing but comes at a premium price of course! Good luck with the purchase decision!
@@MichaelDrowley thanks bud! I think I’m gonna hold out for the premium! My gf has an efs 18-55 and I’m a pretty big bloke so the 24-105 is wide enough too
so if i want to have less blurry image on a video and more sharp let's say on m50 (i travel i can't carry all my camera) i need to boost iso boost aperture? i think more light make the footage less blurry right?
Tonny Milfiger hey Tonny, focus is what gives you sharpness in your image so make sure that is set right for the particular scene. Less blurry backgrounds (or more depth of field) then yes you boost Aperture and then adjust ISO to give you more light. As when you boost aperture you are what’s called “stopping down” the lens which means you are working with a smaller aperture in terms of the size of the hole that the image is projected through onto the sensor but the number of that particular aperture actually increases (get’s bigger) as you “stop down” which means letting less light in.
Anyone know why it get´s insanly zoomed in when I use it for the EOS R? 18mm feels like 35 in HD... Weird?
Hey, I explain in the video. It defaults to crop mode on the EOS R as only has coverage for an APSC size camera sensor. I was able to turn crop mode off and use it natively at 28mm and up to 35mm without vignetting but newer firmware in the EOS R might restrict that now.
How come you get a more blurred background (compression) if you're in 1080 non crop mode when zoomed to the same framing as with crop mode 1080?
It's basically the width of sensor from the crop mode is less than the non crop full frame mode and therefore the achievable focal distance is shorter on the full frame image sensor because in the full frame mode the light coming from the edges of the image sensor has further to travel to produce the image than the crop mode and so it creates more blur. It's tricky to explain in a comment so maybe check out this link on it bit.ly/3ntzAWB
Great!
Will 60fps and 120fps works with efs lenses
Is the Fstop also affected when you put an EF-S lens on a FF camera?
SH Videography That’s a difficult question to answer. In short, no it doesn’t, as you still have all apertures available so no ‘limit” is placed on what it can do but for the same framing between the cropped in sensor and full frame sensor with the same lens on both, the full frame will maintain a larger out of focus background than the cropped sensor area because with the cropped sensor area you have to move further away from the subject to get the same framing as full frame. explains it pretty well in this post - fstoppers.com/education/understanding-how-sensor-size-affects-depth-field-312599
Is there focus breathing issues with this lens?
No focus breathing on this lens - or at least not that I can can notice anyway.
Great job man, thanks. I had a pretty good career too, got bored and invested in a bakery!!!
bigdap100 Well done mate! Beats working for the man I bet
Michael Drowley I still work for now, b/c I need to use my personal credit, haven’t created enough business credit, but I’ll say this: I should have done this a long time ago, it’s very liberating. I actually got my camera gear to shoot commercials and build my brand.
bigdap100 That's awesome man. I started out doing 9 months full time as a producer for someone else then worked after hours on building my own brand. Was busy but rewarding and from there I launched into my.own business. You should Vlog a bit about your journey! Keep chargin
Michael Drowley yeah bro, I really hope you keep going and achieve your goals for you and your family. We have to make this work so I’ll kids won’t be slaves to this corporate bullsh@t.
Hey Michael, can you shoot 1080p 60fps in crop mode using the sigma 18-35?
No, only 60fps in 720p in crop mode. You can however opt to shoot without the crop mode where you can shoot from about 28mm in 60fps 1080p. Hope that helps
Do you have a 60 fps with Sigma 18 - 35 on your EOS R? When I check menu it seams not available in FULL HD mode. Wonder if thats only in my case and unfamiliarly with EOS R menu settings.
I do have 50/60, yes but it doesnt do FHD 1920 x 1080 in cropped mode. Only 1280 x 720p ALL-I. It is a decent 80 Mbps codec but haven't tested quality against a non cropped lens using the FHD 50/60. But for all my 50/60 I will shoot with non-cropped glass.
@@MichaelDrowley I have noticed that with other Full Frame lenses it works. Most probably 18 to 35 SIGMA needs a firmware upgrade via SIGMA DOCK. Not 100 % sure yet if that's the issue. Im trying to find out. It's a grate lens and I want to take advantage of this. rather than swapping to another for 50/60 fps.
@@NowyKurs Did you ever find a solution for this? having the same problem.
@@iammattdv yes. It seems that only DG lenses work with 60fps on R.
@@NowyKurs damn. that's so annoying, time to sell the 18-35
Great video, question- I just bought the EOS-R and I have the sigma lens 18-35 if I buy the speed booster and shoot full frame 1080p will it completely blow it out?? To wide??
Just released that was HD first, got it 👌🏻I might just sell the sigma and purchase the RF 28-70 2.0
It’s not something I have thought of trying. If you’re talking metabones 0.71 crop It might actually work really well. I think though it may not allow all the way to 18mm but should come pretty close stay 20mm without vignette.
But as I haven’t tested the setup please do your own research before purchase of the adapter.
What about on canon rp for photos?
I’ve not tested unfortunately. I’d assume it would be ok, but you’d have to try it first to see if the firmware plays nicely between the camera and lens.
@@MichaelDrowley thank you for your advice, I'll go by the shop and try the lens to the camera . Thank you again
@@MichaelDrowley have you tested with R10?
@@nikolaospapadopoulos2102 not with R10 either sorry! EOS R and R5.
In photo is there a vignette too at 18mm?
DOCUMENTED Yeah, as you would be shooting at full frame resolution (not like in cropped 4K).
Besides the usefulness in 4K and crop mode, would you rate this lens as the equivalent of having 28mm and 35 mm 1.8 full frame primes when used on the EOS R?
LEGACY FITNESS If you can afford, go for primes or an F2.8 like the 15-35 RF or 24-70 RF or 28-70 F2. Otherwise 24mm f1.4 L EF (with EF to RF adapter) and 35 f1.8 RF is a very nice combo.
@@MichaelDrowley Thanks for the advise.
Ok but when u use apsc lens on r or rp it uses like 10 mp sensor right?
Adam Kucharuk For 4K yes, but you can use this lens without crop in 1080 but you will notice vignetting below 28mm.
@@MichaelDrowley i understand but i meant that when used it uses smaller area on the sensor and now u have 10 mp camera so like camera from 10 years ago. Or maybe i missed something.
Adam Kucharuk I get your point I think. You are talking about the crop mode on the camera and the APS-C lens forcing the camera into crop mode? This is only true for Canon APS-C lenses Canons EF-S lenses. The sigma allows you to use it as a native full frame lens and doesn't force the camera into crop mode. You also suggest 10 MP but the crop to APS-C from Full frame is 1.6 and means the camera is therefore 18MP equivalent in crop mode.
@@MichaelDrowley from what i was told at canon store if u put apsc lens on canon rp it becomes apsc camera and from 26 mp uses only 10 mp do it becomes like 500d. I am not talking only of crop factor.
@@kucharukadam Ok for RP that is different than EOS R with smaller lower MP sensor. For photo the camera would become 15MP and video would become 13MP for 1080p and 4K. The APS-C lenses have a mount that tells the camera that an APS-C lens is attached. The Sigma (and other third party APSC lenses) use an EF lens mount and not an EF-S lens mount so therefore you have to set the R/RP to movie cropping to avoid vignetting in video mode.
Thank you so much for the video. I am looking to get into videography and glad I watched this video...
Can we use this lense for photography as I was been told that there will be vignette when taking pictures
Thanks for your comments. For photography on a full
frame DSLR and EOS R or RP mirrorless the focal length you can use without vignetting will be restricted to about 30-35mm. Wide open it will show vignetting. If you use however on a crop APS-C sensor body like the 7D Mark ii or the new 90 D then you will be able to use the normal zoom range of the lens.
Do you have an idea how it would work on a eos r mark 2 (4k without crop) will it be as you wrote (30 - 35 mm.?) thanks
Michael, what lens were you using at the start of your vid?
My go to lens !!! The 24mm F1.4 L from Canon. Pretty much only ever used at 1.4. it's a brilliant lens
@@MichaelDrowley yes, that's what it looked like! very nice! I just got an EOS R a couple of days ago and I am wrestling with what lens to get. (currently have the RF 35mm). But a 24mm F1.4 would be pretty sweet! But now, this 18-35 has got me thinking. 28mm F1.8 for $600 CAD (used) is a pretty sweet deal!
Arif Khan Yeah, I am going to switch to RF in 2020 but will keep my 24mm F1.4 as I've built my TH-cam piece to cameras off that lens
Arif Khan The sigma is better for BMPCC6K. A little bit fiddly with the full frame vignette on the R but definitely a stellar look to the image. On par with the 24mm 1.4 for sure
@@MichaelDrowley I noticed a slight color and contrast change between the EF 24mm F1.4 and the sigma @28mm F1.8. Wondering if you did anything in post, or that's just the look from the lens?
What about the auto-focus noise in the lens?
It's a great review video. Thank you very much!
Because I generally use an off camera microphone (or at least a Rode videomic pro on the camera hotshoe) I did not notice any issues with AF noise. This might be something worth checking with other creators though an on camera shotgun like the Rode videomic pro or a boom mic clean that up for you if you did want really clear audio with no AF noise.
@@MichaelDrowley Thank you very much for your kind reply. Now, I used a Sony, But I was dissatisfied with the color. So I searching Canon EOS-R and watched your video review. I bought Sigma 18-35mm lens yesterday. The store staff it doesn't recommend using crop lenses on full-frame body. But after watching your videos, and watching many TH-cam reviews, I was convinced. Try EOS-R and Sigma Lenses!
Kyoung Oh that’s great! It is an awesome lens for 4K (and crop mode) on the EOS R! Hope it goes well.
This vinette is awfull. Totaly useless for me. I have EOS 700D and this Lens and I don't have that problem. Do you know a good mirrorles camera that works fine with that lens?
Patryk Turski Any APS-C sensor size or micro 4/3rds will not have the vignette. The EOS R in crop mode also will not have vignette.
if that sigma lens is 35mm 1.8 equivalent, why not just buy the RF 35mm 1.8?
Art lenses are apsc lens ??
Yeah, they are. But 4K on the EOS R crops in so when I made this the lens worked great for 4K on the EOS R. Not sure if this video is still relevant though with firmware updates. While back now when I made this one!
@@MichaelDrowley oh ok ok ... You always reply ,.. thanks 🙏🏽 you the best ,.... Thanks for helping us & keep inspiring !!
Did they ever say why they never made a full frame version of this, Michael?
Pardon my ignorance.
Great video, btw.
Hi Ray, not sure why but I would run out and buy it if they did. It's a beauty. Thanks for stopping by
Explain to me why I can only get 12 mega pixels and not 30
Opinionated Conversations With Bernie G. It might be forcing your camera into crop mode with this lens. I think there has been firmware updates on both camera and lens since my video. I’m still able to get the lens to shoot in full frame 1080 though.
Does it work well on cannon rebel t6?!
Chevy The beagle Instagram doggo yes 👌🏾
Okay, but am I the only one who finds him to look like tha Australian version of Ryan Reynolds? Probably, but im still gonna comment that.
Haha. Thanks Mihaela! Ryan's cooler than me by far but thanks for the comparison!
What's happened to you? I just seen your video from 2018 and now WOW you look really old. Hope you get well soon.
Google Friend Haha! I’m 38!!!! Bit more grey in the beard every year!
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Are you Ryan Reynold's dad?