Así como en sony, si usas Log te sugiero comenzar en ISO 800, y si necesitas más luz lo más adecuado es duplicarlo, de 800 pasar a 1600, luego a 3200, etc… Si lo haces así, tendrás mucho menos grano. Compruébalo tú mismo. Y si la cámara es 8 bits, no uses Log3, el más adecuado para 8 bits, al igual que en Sony, es Log2. Y siempre que uses Log debes sobreexponer +2 Con estos 3 simples consejos tendrás mucha mayor calidad en tus clips.
as both camera AND guitar geek, ive just been casually watching to get some handy info and BOOM Axe FX II outta nowhere! Nice piece of gear and a neat video
Finally! A video that answered my filming in C-Log questions! .... and simple and easy to follow to boot. Love it! Thanks!!!!! I had no idea what L ISO 200 was since the first thing I learned was the base ISO is 400 C-LOG. Is it okay to increase ISO a bit or do you nail it at 400?
You should actually start with correct light on your face. Not overexposing. You lost some highlights in background. C log gives 5.3+ stops above mid gray while standard picture style is around 3.5 stop above.
Great video. I have a c300 mark II and I have no trouble with it. However, my EOS 5D mark IV I can’t seem to get it right. Now I know about View assist!!! Oh thank you for the information. Subscribing now.
Excellent explanation and walk-through of the variations. When you over expose, do you do this by bumping up ISO or exposure compensation? Is there a preferred option, or one to stay away from? Thanks for your help.
I'm not a pro but I typically do ISO mainly because I need to keep shutter speed at 1/50 (for 24p) and also typically shoot wide open for nice bokeh. That only leaves ISO to change.
@@mv2creative that’s dependant on the camera you’re using. General rule is that the lower the megapixel count, the better the low light ability (the higher you can push ISO)
I know you did a vid on slog a7sii a while back. And lots of people say “overexpose it” but.....overexposing on slog is still overexposing. Let me be more precise. Zebra’s at 100 is the point of no return. Log gives you more dynamic range, but it tends to be bringing dark areas up and not in bringing overexposed areas down. But the definition of “overexposed” is nuanced, and a source of confusion.
Im just now learning some of this stuff the hard way....& videos like yours are GREAT for us amateurʻs with no field mentorship. Do we ALWAYS want to keep ISO at 400 when shooting in log? What about higher than 400? Also, how does shutter speed affect log footage & how well it can be edited in post? Subbed & liked. THANK YOU!!
It’s best to keep your iso at its native minimum if you can but it’s ok go slightly higher if you need to. Don’t touch that shutter speed! Double your frame rate at all times 😂 As for editing, you’ll need to convert the footage with a LUT of some kind, I’d recommend checking out my video called ‘what are LUTs’. This should be a huge help 👍🏻
Question Harv: So you think its more accurate to adjust my exposure using CLOG on the screen instead of using the LOG assist feature to judge/adjust exposure? Then switch on LOG assist just to see how it looks.
You should expose your LOG footage using an external monitor. The LOG assist is not meant to be an assisting tool to evaluate exposure. CLOG assist is essentially a REC709 LUT that the camera applies to CLOG stream on your camera, to have a preview of how it will looks like with a standar This is why you should expose your footage without any LUT. Depending on the LUT you use, you would obtain different results in terms of exposure (this on external monitor). You don't want to blow your highlights or burn your blacks, and that is on your footage, not after you apply a LUT (like the CLOG assist). If you don't have an external monitor you can use histogram/zebras, although not the best tools available around.
Hi Harv I am new to video and I found this video fascinating I shoot with a Nikon Z6 and I’m wondering is the same holds true that you spoke about I recently upgraded my camera to prores raw and I have atomos ninja five recorder and I want to start learning more about this do you have any advice for an nikon user?
Z6 with Ninja 5 is amazing, I'm sure you're enjoying the results. EOSR will get dynamic range very close, but with the Ninja V, it's limited to cropped 4k 10bit 422 30p, unlike Z6 which which allows full frame 1080p 10bit 422 60p. Stupid Canon crippling cameras with software limitations.
Big ups to ya & Thanks! This is a wonderful and informative video! Does this also apply to Cinestyle used on Canon's lower end cameras such as the t7i?
I recently shot a Music Vid On My E0S R with CP3 cinema Lens on CLOg using 400 min ISO but the the post DI there were lots of Grains In The Shadows I Fixed some amount of that In DI but still the Grains were terribly visible..would really appreciate any1 who can help me out with the solution for that problem 😊
This is so helpful! I’m confused about how you’re determining “correct” exposure for the foggy day though. How is your camera saying that it’s correct?
Harv, Didi I miss something? “Canon”?? Why? (And I’m originally a Canon FAN boy!). BUT.. Canon got left behind a while ago (didn’t they??)... and as much as I have a “Love - Hate” relationship with Sony... I can’t figure out why your’e wasting your time?...especially since I know you as a Sony A7 guy! Again forgive me if I missed something? (Like a transformative new Canon product or that you have already stated a reason for giving a $hit about Cannon?). 😂
Harv Video/Audio Stuff Gotcha... maybe that is something you could Vlog about?? Why? My Canon’s don’t play well with my Sony’s. I’ve become addicted to 4K (for so many reasons...) none of the canon’s (I can afford) can do 4K not to mention the 5dMrk IV.. “MPEG?? 4K??” What The _ _ _ _ ? Again what can any of the canon’s do (better) than your A7’s? LOVE your channel BTW!
Finally a video that gets to the point!! Great job
Glad you liked it!!
Dude, I was wondering why my colors shifted so bad ....it's because I used 100 iso with c-log on my EOS R. Thanks for this video.
This is by far the best, most informative c log video I've seen yet. Thank you for helping me figure out why my videos look like doo doo!
Así como en sony, si usas Log te sugiero comenzar en ISO 800, y si necesitas más luz lo más adecuado es duplicarlo, de 800 pasar a 1600, luego a 3200, etc…
Si lo haces así, tendrás mucho menos grano. Compruébalo tú mismo.
Y si la cámara es 8 bits, no uses Log3, el más adecuado para 8 bits, al igual que en Sony, es Log2.
Y siempre que uses Log debes sobreexponer +2
Con estos 3 simples consejos tendrás mucha mayor calidad en tus clips.
This is super helpful, especially to a clog newb like me. Thanks!
This was really helpful thank you, I really need to learn how to grade clog
Thank you so much. Now I got to investigate which log to use
C-Log 3 is good, especially for 8 bit shooting
as both camera AND guitar geek, ive just been casually watching to get some handy info and BOOM Axe FX II outta nowhere! Nice piece of gear and a neat video
I have a feeling we’d get on well 😂
Excellent! My R6 is smiling
Oh my Lord! Wish I’d found this video two years ago. 😅 Better late than never! This was super informative & the presentation was 🤌. Thank-you!!
Thanks a lot for this, just got my R6 and this is certainly helpful. Greetings from Hong Kong 🌆
So glad I could help 👍🏻
Finally! A video that answered my filming in C-Log questions! .... and simple and easy to follow to boot. Love it! Thanks!!!!! I had no idea what L ISO 200 was since the first thing I learned was the base ISO is 400 C-LOG. Is it okay to increase ISO a bit or do you nail it at 400?
Hi Harv. Thanks for the video. Just one small question: do you convert your log to 709 before colorgrading or not?
Exactly what i was looking for THANK YOU SIR 👏
You should actually start with correct light on your face. Not overexposing. You lost some highlights in background. C log gives 5.3+ stops above mid gray while standard picture style is around 3.5 stop above.
It looked over saturated too.
at 2:58 I prefer the look on the left
One of the best video to understand C Log..really appreciate you efforts for making such amezing Content and helping out filmmakers ❤❤
Great vid.
Nice Axe FX
Very useful information. Thank you 😊
Great video. I have a c300 mark II and I have no trouble with it. However, my EOS 5D mark IV I can’t seem to get it right. Now I know about View assist!!! Oh thank you for the information. Subscribing now.
Excellent explanation and walk-through of the variations. When you over expose, do you do this by bumping up ISO or exposure compensation? Is there a preferred option, or one to stay away from? Thanks for your help.
I'm not a pro but I typically do ISO mainly because I need to keep shutter speed at 1/50 (for 24p) and also typically shoot wide open for nice bokeh. That only leaves ISO to change.
@@DanielSeungLee3 how high do you think you can push ISO before becoming too grainy?
@@mv2creative that’s dependant on the camera you’re using. General rule is that the lower the megapixel count, the better the low light ability (the higher you can push ISO)
Thank you so much! You reviewed every setting i wanted to know :))
You’re welcome! 👍🏻
Great video. Simplified explanation. I was shocked at iso 100. I knew it limited DR but not as bad as that.
Look forward to the next video 👌
great video!
Hi, Say I don't want to use lower iso then using an external ND filter or a circular polarizer would be good.outdoors while using c-log.
I shoot SLOG but I wanted to hear you talk about exposing for shooting in a color profile
When using histogram correctly (being just in the middle) you usually overexpose by 2 and 3 stops.
I know you did a vid on slog a7sii a while back. And lots of people say “overexpose it” but.....overexposing on slog is still overexposing. Let me be more precise. Zebra’s at 100 is the point of no return. Log gives you more dynamic range, but it tends to be bringing dark areas up and not in bringing overexposed areas down. But the definition of “overexposed” is nuanced, and a source of confusion.
Ur a legend!!!!
Wonderful video! Does anyone happen to know what the native base ISO is for the 70D is?? Thanks
HARV!!!!! fuakkk i love this dude.
What is your shutter speed? Is this for video or pictures?
Thanks H - are you going to get a R5/6
R6 preordered 🤩 still unsure about the R5, filming my thoughts on this tonight!
@@HarvVideoAudioStuff - great - interested to hear your thoughts on it.
Good content, no bs yet few likes typical TH-cam
Nice and informative, thanks for the vid!
Im just now learning some of this stuff the hard way....& videos like yours are GREAT for us amateurʻs with no field mentorship.
Do we ALWAYS want to keep ISO at 400 when shooting in log? What about higher than 400?
Also, how does shutter speed affect log footage & how well it can be edited in post?
Subbed & liked. THANK YOU!!
It’s best to keep your iso at its native minimum if you can but it’s ok go slightly higher if you need to.
Don’t touch that shutter speed! Double your frame rate at all times 😂
As for editing, you’ll need to convert the footage with a LUT of some kind, I’d recommend checking out my video called ‘what are LUTs’. This should be a huge help 👍🏻
Question Harv: So you think its more accurate to adjust my exposure using CLOG on the screen instead of using the LOG assist feature to judge/adjust exposure? Then switch on LOG assist just to see how it looks.
You should expose your LOG footage using an external monitor. The LOG assist is not meant to be an assisting tool to evaluate exposure.
CLOG assist is essentially a REC709 LUT that the camera applies to CLOG stream on your camera, to have a preview of how it will looks like with a standar
This is why you should expose your footage without any LUT. Depending on the LUT you use, you would obtain different results in terms of exposure (this on external monitor).
You don't want to blow your highlights or burn your blacks, and that is on your footage, not after you apply a LUT (like the CLOG assist).
If you don't have an external monitor you can use histogram/zebras, although not the best tools available around.
Hi Harv I am new to video and I found this video fascinating I shoot with a Nikon Z6 and I’m wondering is the same holds true that you spoke about I recently upgraded my camera to prores raw and I have atomos ninja five recorder and I want to start learning more about this do you have any advice for an nikon user?
Z6 with Ninja 5 is amazing, I'm sure you're enjoying the results. EOSR will get dynamic range very close, but with the Ninja V, it's limited to cropped 4k 10bit 422 30p, unlike Z6 which which allows full frame 1080p 10bit 422 60p. Stupid Canon crippling cameras with software limitations.
Big ups to ya & Thanks! This is a wonderful and informative video! Does this also apply to Cinestyle used on Canon's lower end cameras such as the t7i?
no! those are not log profiles :)
Hi, quick question - what does it mean by exposure at +1 or +2. Is this the ISO? So +1 is 400 ISO and 1000 ISO is +2?
In ur camera settings, you can dial exposure up or down 3 stops.
I recently shot a Music Vid On My E0S R with CP3 cinema Lens on CLOg using 400 min ISO but the the post DI there were lots of Grains In The Shadows I Fixed some amount of that In DI but still the Grains were terribly visible..would really appreciate any1 who can help me out with the solution for that problem 😊
Expose to the right!
Hi Harv! :)
best love it video
Hello again, I'm here to write things on the wall again. Okay bye.
This is so helpful! I’m confused about how you’re determining “correct” exposure for the foggy day though. How is your camera saying that it’s correct?
Is this for original c-log? Not clog 2 or 3
Yes indeed, regular c-log 👍🏻
Harv, Didi I miss something? “Canon”?? Why? (And I’m originally a Canon FAN boy!). BUT.. Canon got left behind a while ago (didn’t they??)... and as much as I have a “Love - Hate” relationship with Sony... I can’t figure out why your’e wasting your time?...especially since I know you as a Sony A7 guy! Again forgive me if I missed something? (Like a transformative new Canon product or that you have already stated a reason for giving a $hit about Cannon?). 😂
I’m using both canon and Sony ;)
Harv Video/Audio Stuff
Gotcha... maybe that is something you could Vlog about?? Why? My Canon’s don’t play well with my Sony’s. I’ve become addicted to 4K (for so many reasons...) none of the canon’s (I can afford) can do 4K not to mention the 5dMrk IV.. “MPEG?? 4K??” What The _ _ _ _ ? Again what can any of the canon’s do (better) than your A7’s? LOVE your channel BTW!
Brad Baerwald didn’t age well 😂🤣