Good stuff! Love hardcore! If the song isn't great you won't have to worry about it for very long. You have various generations of hardcore represented nicely. I agree that you should listen t o Minor Threat and you should revisit Bad Brains.
The thing you are missing is the explosive energy (danger and stench) of a live show. Movie/Documentary - The Decline of Western Civilization (recorded 1979/1980) Bad Brains - Big Take Over (Live 1982) CBGB's MINOR THREAT - 12XU Live (LA Rollerworks 1983) Different regions alot of times had different sounds., LA, Boston, North West, NY, UK, Sweden, Japan. Italy, Finland, Holland, Norway etc and things sometimes evolved very quickly. 77-80-85-90 etc Discharge Reality of War ep 1980 Fight Back ep 1980 (fightback is an awesome dbeat classic song) Decontrol ep 1980 Never Again ep 1981 Why 12" ep 1981 (my favorite) State Violence State Control 7" 1982 Hear Nothing See Nothing Say Nothing LP 1982 The majority of the later records are garbage although there are recent records that I hear are ok.
About the question where punk ends and hardcore begins. Its a bit of a misnoma, because hardcore IS punk. Basically after the first wave of punk bands in the 70s, when the scene started to grow more commercial you have a schism in punk, between the more commercial pop punk movement and the hardcorepunk movement. A lot of people, myself included, might argue that hardcore is the actual continuation of the anti establishment and diy mindset in punk. Also, when you say "this sounds like metal" its often actually metal sounding like hardcorepunk. There is a lot of cross pollination between the two. If you compare the two you might find that the rythm section, meaning drums and bass are often a lot more up front in hc than in metal.
Discharge is a whole different beast, totally influential for thrash metal and extreme metal overall (Also they kinda birthed D-beat, a type of drumming that became a whole unique sound for punk)
I wouldnt say totally because the influence is somewhat exaggerated. The speed, heavy metal, punk and hard rock influences were stronger on those bands Metallica was trying to be a diamond head clone, Slayer a venom/judas priest one, Anthrax were way more heavy metal and Megadeth were probably the most influenced ones.
@@RibeiroGames12 My guy, Thrash goes beyond the Big 4. Also, as i said on my comment, They also influenced extreme metal bands (The swedish DM scene for example), the crust punk scene AND the d beat swedish scene (That Is really close to the DM scene)
@molibianco - Not even close to an “expert” on the subject. But for me, it was Englands own *’The Varukers’* who “gave birth” to what we all know & love as *D-beat* today. But then again, if you dig the music who really gives a *’bleep’* which band(s) may & or may not have started it, right?
@@fredarsenault8987New Jersey, actually, but, CBGB's was a quick train ride into the city. PATH to Central, then subway to Christopher Street station. Then, just a block to Bowery & Bleeker.
If you're trying to get into hard-core punk, might I suggest the bands Bad Brains, Dead Kennedys, Black Flag, D.R.I, Suicidal Tendencies, and Leeway. The latter 3 also have a crossover thrash metal sound.
No Bad Brains, Minor Threat, Negative Approach, Gorilla Biscuits, Youth Of Today, Shelter, Chain of Strength, Earth Crisis, Judge, Biohazard, Leeway, In My Eyes, D.R.I, SSD….i could go on!! Still AF, Cro Mags, Discharge are all worthy choices!!
So many great punk bands that you could make a week long video if you wanted to. But I think I'd separate the hardcore punk bands from the other hardcore bands
Nothing like NY Hardcore … still fun, but much tougher and more aggressive. Id add Gorilla Biscuits, as well, just because lol though theres plenty of excellent options. Maybe Madball too.
That Cro mags intro had me geeked when I first heard it almost 40 years ago 🤯That whole album (Age of Quarrel) is one widely considered one of the best hardcore albums ever.
NoMeansNo... anything, preferably early incarnation, a copy of Jason Lamb's book "NoMeansNo: From Obscurity to Oblivion: An Oral History" will make its way to Kira!!! Mark my words.
My friends older bro went to rock against Reagan tour with MDC Reagan youth dead Kennedy's and other bands. I told him how was it. His exact words was he came back home with different shoes 🤣🤘
Sick of it all is one of the most energetic and fun bands live... saw them with agnostic front Sept 2022... amazing ... and Agnostic Front always delivers live... so glad someone is finally checking out Hardcore music... check out Madball ... sheer terror ... blood for blood ... there are so many great hardcore bands ...
@@VaughnBrown1965 OFF is great! Brings me back to my punk days whenI was going to hardcore shows in clubs 1984-86. Seen most everyone Live back then in my youth!!
Great choices altogether, but Cro-Mags! Fantastic. A friend of mine who plays bass and I (drums) used to skip class and jam "We Gotta Know" in the jazz room in high school. The Age of Quarrel is a great album. Keep 'em coming!
I got really into punk and hardcore when i was a kid. I'll never forget the first time i heard Agnostic Front victim in pain in my walkman at school. Absolutely blown away. I felt like i was listening to the most extreme music ever. Same day i first heard Storm Troopers of Death also.
@@austin_l LOL. i have been listening to hardcore since 1982. I'm just not an Ag Front fan. And the whole racist-adjacent thing... I'm not down with. At all. I agree with your sentiment that, for many, hardcore is somewhat of an acquired taste. But to quote Vic Bondi: "Normal people did not listen to hardcore, and we liked it like that."
You should dive into CROSSOVER (a mix of HC and metal), some bands: D.R.I., Suicidal Tendencies, Excel, Stormtroopers of Death, Dr. Know, Lobotomia, M.O.D.
A good book to check out is "Our band could be your life" by Michael Azzerad. It covers various influential indie, hardcore and punk bands from the 1980's that eventually inspired a lot of grunge/ alternative rock bands. Also there's a great documentary on the singer of Bad Brains called "Finding Joseph I: The HR from Bad Brains documentary".
Lou and Pete Koller from Sick Of It All published a memoir a couple of years ago. It's a really fun read and has some wild stories in it. Especially the one about the hobo with a paper bag. You'll never guess how that turned out.
All those bands are great. I was a southern California punk from the 80's. Try some really fast songs. Middle Class "Out of Vogue", Ill Repute "Oxnard", Articles Of Faith "Bad Attitude" anything from early Poison Idea. So cool you are experiencing the world of hardcore.
You should really check out Raw Power " Politicians " or " We're All gonna Die " off the Album Screams From the Gutter . Raw Power is an old Hardcore Band from Italy but the Album Screams From the Gutter was recorded in Indianapolis , Indiana . The Zero Boys is also a Great Band from the late 70's early 80's . Glad to see people exploring and enjoying Great Bands and Music :)
i supported naplam death onslaught chaos uk ,. scream , and i think concrete sox and a few more in early 80s i still have the flyer some where frrom on of the gigs , great fun and gigs were so cheap like 1.50 and we played for free beer a lot
Funny enough, you did say "this is like metal" and you aren't wrong at all. Punk and heavy metal are both sub-genres of rock, but heavy metal is specifically a heavier form of hard rock. Hardcore punk is punkrock + hard rock, but punkrock + heavy metal can also fall under that category, so long as the majority of it is punk. If there's more metal in it than punk, it's thrash metal... and if you add hardcore punk into thrash metal (making it a more balanced middle ground) you'll end up with "grindcore" or "crossover thrash", and of course their sub-genres and off-shoots. So yeah... punk + metal can be hardcore, but it can also be a bunch of other things. And hardcore can have either metal or hard rock, in the mix with punk
Discharge is one of the most influential hardcore bands of all time. They were one of the first bands not only to play that face meltingly fast and hard but also to include more tough, hard edged metal solos in punk songs. They paved the way for crust punk, grindcore, powerviolence, any other obscure genre of extreme punk edged heavy music. Bands like Napalm death and even some early death metal bands will cite them as a key influence, not to mention the whole wave of “d-beat” bands that basically exist to copy discharge as closely as possible (disclose, disfear, disarm, etc, notice a pattern here?) super sick band I would also recommend you check out the songs Aint No Feeble Bastard, Hear Nothing See Nothing Say Nothing, Protest and Survive, Cries of Help
I'd put NMN ever so slightly higher... sorry, Murray. The universe got it Wright putting both bands in the proximal location of Victoria, BC... such an epic era late 70s through to early 90s here. We had Neos, Dishrags (with Jade Blade), Red Tide (Ken Jensen's first), Pink Steel, Jerk Ward (Steve McBean's first, second being Mission of Christ) and more!!! How about a video dedicated to these? TH-cam has them all!!! *edit to add Infamous Scientists (duh), and mention the immensely important support from gig promoter fans, sometimes both, venues, sound recording production talent *Scott Henderson, looking at you!!!
I really just came here for Sick of it All. It is the remastered (possibly rerecorded) version, so it does sound way clearer and punchy than the original, but that's kind of how they always sounded live. My favourite band and the first band I ever saw.
Another nice round up. I'm glad you like Sick of it All, as they were one of my favourites back in the day. I don't know if this is quite the right way to put it, but I always thought of them as being a great example of the "East Coast Hardcore" sound of the late 80s to early 90s. This is kind of how punk split between this East Coast sound and the West Coast punk that eventually becomes pop-punk (eew).
Your 'taster' videos of hardcore, stoner, punk & metal are great ! Keep posting them. So nice to see your reactions to music I grew up listening to and revisit every day. Everyone has their own favourite band / recommendations from the 80's which they've commented so I will throw in a few others- Adrenalin O.D., Ludichrist, Crucifix, Zero Boys.
My first show was Circle Jerks in 1985, my favorite show is Cro-Mags in 1986, I loved Agnostic Front in the mid-80s, and I've been friends with Terry (Tezz) Bones of Discharge for 30 years. He moved to the US in the early '90s and lived 10 minutes from me. This video was so nostalgic.
Some incredible songs you have to listen to: Bauhaus: Passion Of Lovers Dark Entries Sanity Assassin Peter Murphy: All Night Long Sisters Of Mercy: Marian Alice Walk Away Dominion Siouxsie Sioux: Cities In Dust Spellbound Minimal Compact: The Next One Is Real Joy Division: Transmission She’s Lost Control Warsaw. The Cure: A Forest Other Voices A Night Like This Charlotte Sometimes Gang Of Four: What We All Want
Sick! Your reactions are just like mine when i first heard some of these bands when i was 12 years old in 1986. (Except for Husker Du which were already in the "college/alternative" era so i never got into them.) Hardcore gives an aggressive but positive energy that has stayed with me most of my life.
Try out Raw Power from Italy. Screams from the gutter is my favorite. Its pretty amazing watching a young person get into stuff i was listening to 40+ years ago.
Im so glad i came across this. Its cool how you hear different sounds within hardcore punk. Hardcore has elevated so much as a genre. I also see you have 3 bands from NYC here. sick of it all, agnostic front, and cro-mags. Im from NYC and also part of the hardcore and punk scene here, and you'll notice that those bands sound heavier. Hardcore bands from new York City have always had a much heavier edge and sound and grittier.
FYI you've heard the singer for the Circle Jerks Keith Morris before. He was the lead singer in Black Flag when they recorded the song "Nervous Breakdown".
I've listened to all these bands from the start and still do. Love your excitement ha. I was 11 (1981... ) when I brought home my first Discharge 45 and it still makes me react the same way as you did here. A cool side note to me is that most punk bands were/are pretty real. Meaning, the music was made from a natural place. Not made for fame, not to get girls or boys, not for egos and surely not for money. Its was, for majority, made from heart, angst, frustration and/or pure fun. A genre of music that for many around the world, came with a movement, a lifestyle. It personally gave me friends and a place I belonged, soo much more than just the music.
Punk by 1982 was pretty much of the Hard-core variety and in UK was divided into Anarcho bands Crass, Conflict etc and what became to be known as UK82 bands after song by The Exploited one of "the Big 3" along with Discharge which you listened to and GBH you should listen to No Survivors by them "Last Rockers" by Vice Squad would be a good 4 to listen to. Another Discharge on to react to could be " Hear Nothing See Nothing Say Nothing" for the D-Beat drums
New viewer here Kira & some fresh air. You are more than a reactor for sure. And you distinguish well between Thrash, Death, Metal, Rock, Glam, Emo and the only Hardcore that exists. Punk. But, to really know & experience Punk you have to “get in the pit”. Mosh. Pogo. Circle Pit. Stage Dive. When a punk falls in the pit, pick ‘em’ up. Corrosion of Conformity with Erick Eyke & Mike Dean. Straight Edge band Minor Threat album Out of Step. Hard-core punk songs are short because punks are in the pit. They’re made for it. Good job girl keep it up. You’re awesome.
That Discharge album is a fun listen. Also you would like Youth of Today,(Breaking Down the Walls) Gorilla Bisquits(Start Today) Drscendants(Somery) GBH,(City Baby's Revenge) ALL great Punk albums...NOFX and Bad Religion also fun fast pink! Generation X,/Generation X-great melodic punk!
Vocalist Harley Flanagan from Cro-Mags lived in Aarhus, Denmark in the 70's with his mother and used to go to punk concerts at the age of 11-12 years old 😂
That's ridiculous, why even bother naming them as a genre or anything if it's just an ethos? So I guess music genres like Punk rock or Post-punk don't exist either because they're just ethos and have nothing to do with a specific genre or sound? You might as well just dispense with specific labels for anything and just call 'Holy Diver' by Dio Punk rock lol please don't talk shite 😂 It might be Hardcore punk meets Speed metal like a Punk variety of Proto-thrash or even Proto-crossover thrash although this happened later than the beginnings of Crossover as was 1987, it might well be Crossover thrash actually but it's difficult to tell, tbh it sounds like a more erratic variety of Hardcore punk with strong Speed metal leanings!
@@crispy9249 It isn't nonsense it's just common sense just like it isn't common sense to just label Punk rock an ethos and arbitrarily decide it isn't also a specific genre of music, like I said to the other guy, please don't talk shite!
Cheers Kira....so stoked to see you delve into Hardcore Punk. It's been a staple in my life for 42 years. I didn't live too far from Black Flag,Descendents and Circle Jerks. If you want to hear a faster Husker Du album, check out Land Speed Record. Big ups from California
Sick of it All - Locomotive Cro-Mags - Death Camps Minor Threat - Betray Circle Jerks - Beat Me Senseless or Wonderful And yeah, Mackie from Cro-Mags is one of the best drummers in hardcore.
As for the Cro-Mags..., the drummer on that track is Mackie Jayson. He DEFINITELY has the "good foot". One of the best drummers in hardcore/punk. I'm loving your reviews by the way....
Love the NYHC love here. True story re: Mackie (Cro-Mags). He played on my drummers kit once and afterword my drummer had to replace all the heads. Man is a beast!
sick vid but you should check out the NYC Hardcore bands, Madball "Lockdown" , Biohazard "Urban discipline" , Gorilla biscuits "Forgotten" are as legendary as it gets in terms of Hardcore
Great video definitely some good picks! to understand early hardcore i'll quote the vocalist from M.D.C. "We're not trying to be digestible or melodic, we're giving you all our angst & all our feeling as loud as we can & as hard as we can."-Dave Dictor. So thats why Hardcore songs were often short & fast. Just an explosion of angry youth expression.
@@pretorius9598 The exploited were/are and always will be, a fxxkin joke...don't get me wrong they did some decent stuff years ago but there are a million better "punk" bands....
@@pretorius9598 Did that sting?, if u think troops of tomorrow is the best hc punk lp ever produced, that is a bold statement and as u are wrong,I feel it is my duty to correct you, if yer only 12, I apologise cos I loved em when I was young...I'll never forget how exciting it was 2 see em on top of the pops, miming to "dead cities"...
Great video - if you want to delve further into the world of hardcore I’d recommend: Earth Crisis - ‘Firestorm’ Burn - ‘…Shall Be Judged’ Integrity - ‘systems Overload’. Born Against - ‘By the Throat’.
Check out Earth Crisis and Snapcase. Also, if you want to get crazy specific to some regional music for no particular reason than curiosity, checkout the premier band from the early ‘00s in SWFL, Jiyuna “Moonrock Millionaire” (best recording available on Bandcamp.) Also, Savannah, Georgia’s Circle Takes The Square, “In The Nervous Light Of Sunday.” ☺️👍🏼
Hello Kira, compliments for your choices, these bands are all amazing, even if I have to say I didn't expect to find a band like Discharge among these Hardcore bands. Discharge are one of the first UK punk bands, like Subhumans, GBH, Partisans, Disorder, Chaos UK, Blitz, UK Subs, etc. But when I was young my favourite punk bands were the so-called "anarcho-bands", first of all CRASS, then Conflict, Poison girls, Chumbawamba, Dirt, Rubella Bullets, Zounds, Flux Of Pink Indians, etc. They were very creative bands, for example Karma Sutra were really an incredible band, I'd like to see the reaction of your face if you listened to the song "When the music stops".... I am so curious..... ☺
I accidentally met the bassist of Husker Du going out one night to see a random show - turned out he was playing bass for the headlining band and barely anyone knew that! Got a picture and a signed dollar bill but I think I scared him a bit when I said that Land Speed Record (if you wanna talk early Husker Du and wild hardcore, definitely check that album out) was the kind of music that made me think of crashing my car to start off on a wild adventure lmao
I got a few bands to check out. Warzone : dont forget the struggle, dont forget the streets. Adolescents self titled album. Rudimentary peni: death church.
You really should have a listen to the Anarcho-punk bands such as Crass, Flux of Pink Indians, Poison Girls, Conflict, Zounds, Subhumans and of course the magnificent Rudimentary Peni who brought out arguably the greatest album ever made - Deathchurch.
One of the ideals of punk was to rail against the 60s and 70s music industry which hosted only artists that were considered to be extremely talented and made 10 minute prog songs. This is why you don't really find guitar solos in punk.
The guitarist in my band (Fire is Murder) is Steve Gallo. He used to play drums for Agnostic Front. His brother Mike is still their bass player. This is awesome! I never see anyone reacting to them!
It's true; because music is always along a continuum, the exact line is difficult to call, but to me a couple in this list are right adjacent to there: Circle Jerks and Agnostic Front. Those are right about where punk rock breaks out into hardcore. The L.A. punk band, X, had some hardcore-leaning material, but they [among others] backed away from the sound after too much violence by skins at shows. Oh, and The Misfits began as straight punk rock, but were basically hardcore by their final effort, Wolf's Blood, so the line is somewhere in there too.
With hindsight I think British bands like Discharge and GBH were really influenced by Motorhead's sound. I didn't see this at the time because they seemed like different genres. Motorhead played reasonably large venues at the time but Discharge etc played smaller shows were you could get quite close to the stage and speakers.
When I first heard Discharge it was like punk was taken to the battleground via Northern Ireland, Cold War and the apocalyptic nature of the time that there would be no look at tomorrow. Informed by bands like Crass who injected anarchism and pacifism into our knowledge base really felt like we could move mountains if we could just be heard.
As some other people mentioned, Discharge isn't really "hardcore punk" per se , they more or less created the sound of and later on genre "D-beat" (the drumming rythm in the song you listened to). Street Punk is a genre that is very related to it but may or may not contain the D-beat. The bands of these genres was a MAJOR influence to Speed Metal, Thrash Metal and Black Metal. Think the easiest way to distinguish these bands is that the Hardcore Punk bands emerged in the 80s in USA, influenced by early UK Punk. D-beat and Street Punk emerged in the UK, without/minor influences of the bands in USA. That's why they sound quite a bit different.
GBH and the Exploited were very influential to many metal bands but I wouldn't say they were to speed metal tbh. Speed metal was created by Motorhead in 77, but there were a couple of songs before them made by budgie, Scorpions, deep purple, riot, queen, judas priest, etc that were speed metal So speed metal influenced street punk not the other way around.
If you listen to The Misfits career you can hear them go from a punk band to hardcore band. The early stuff is slow and by the later Earth AD album it's very fast hardcore. The Misfits are from my home state of New Jersey. Keith Morris of The Circle Jerks was the original singer of Black Flag He formed The Circle Jerks later. He is now in the band OFF! which is very much hardcore. Agnostic Front and Sick Of It All and The Cro Mags are all New York Hardcore bands. Circle Jerks.. Dead Kennedys.. Black Flag.. X the band.. are from Las Angeles. Minor Threat.. Fugazi.. Dag Nasty.. Government Issue and the Bad Brains are Washington DC bands. Greetings from New Jersey.. )^_-)/
Early D.R.I. ... Suicidal Tendencies ... Misfits ... they definitely qualify as punk rock. It was S.O.D. (Stormtroopers of Death) in 1985 by members of Anthrax that is credited w/ the "crossover" scene fusing metal and hardcore punk... S.O.D.'s "Speak English or Die" (and their 2nd album 'Bigger than the devil') r truly remarkable records. Carnivore was also East Coast hardcore in the 80's by (the late) Peter Steele (bass/ vocals) who went on to success w/ Type O Negative... Carnivore released 2 albums ('Carnivore' and 'Retaliation') Amen was also a hardcore punk band that should have been bigger, formed by vocalist Casey Chaos, they released 3 albums - 'Amen' ... "We've come for your parents" ... 'Death before musick' Superjoint Ritual (now Superjoint) was the hardcore band formed by Phil Anselmo of Pantera on vocals & guitar w/ Jimmy Bower of Eyehategod... 3 albums - 'Use once & destroy'... 'A lethal dose of American hatred' ... 'Caught up in the gears of application'. MD.45 was the punk rock project by Megadeth's Dave Mustaine on guitar and Fear vocalist Lee Ving... They released 1 album 'The Craving'. Dead Cross is the punk band formed by former Slayer drummer Dave Lombardo and Faith No More vocalist Mike Patton ... and have 2 albums. Napalm Death - grindcore kings from the UK... they combined the speed of punk rock and the intensity of thrash metal to create a blast of sound... Since their 1987 debut album 'Scum'... Napalm Death is everything punk rock bands wish they could be.
Ahhh Yes, the sound of bullies in the cool kids section! Except for husker du. They were a little refuge. Still love this music though even though it invokes some sketchy memories
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LET'S GIVE THIS ANOTHER SHOT!!!
Good stuff! Love hardcore! If the song isn't great you won't have to worry about it for very long. You have various generations of hardcore represented nicely. I agree that you should listen t o Minor Threat and you should revisit Bad Brains.
im glad you like it, one of my favs subgenres and bands, you need to try with more post-hc
The thing you are missing is the explosive energy (danger and stench) of a live show.
Movie/Documentary - The Decline of Western Civilization (recorded 1979/1980)
Bad Brains - Big Take Over (Live 1982) CBGB's
MINOR THREAT - 12XU Live (LA Rollerworks 1983)
Different regions alot of times had different sounds., LA, Boston, North West, NY, UK, Sweden, Japan. Italy, Finland, Holland, Norway etc and things sometimes evolved very quickly. 77-80-85-90 etc
Discharge
Reality of War ep 1980
Fight Back ep 1980 (fightback is an awesome dbeat classic song)
Decontrol ep 1980
Never Again ep 1981
Why 12" ep 1981 (my favorite)
State Violence State Control 7" 1982
Hear Nothing See Nothing Say Nothing LP 1982
The majority of the later records are garbage although there are recent records that I hear are ok.
About the question where punk ends and hardcore begins. Its a bit of a misnoma, because hardcore IS punk. Basically after the first wave of punk bands in the 70s, when the scene started to grow more commercial you have a schism in punk, between the more commercial pop punk movement and the hardcorepunk movement. A lot of people, myself included, might argue that hardcore is the actual continuation of the anti establishment and diy mindset in punk.
Also, when you say "this sounds like metal" its often actually metal sounding like hardcorepunk. There is a lot of cross pollination between the two. If you compare the two you might find that the rythm section, meaning drums and bass are often a lot more up front in hc than in metal.
Give it no more shots. Lay it to rest.
The album Hear Nothing, See Nothing, Say Nothing by Discharge is totally brilliant. 10/10
Discharge is a whole different beast, totally influential for thrash metal and extreme metal overall (Also they kinda birthed D-beat, a type of drumming that became a whole unique sound for punk)
not to mention the dozens if not hundreds of punk bands that show their allegiance to d-beat by adding "dis" starting words as their band name.
I wouldnt say totally because the influence is somewhat exaggerated. The speed, heavy metal, punk and hard rock influences were stronger on those bands
Metallica was trying to be a diamond head clone, Slayer a venom/judas priest one, Anthrax were way more heavy metal and Megadeth were probably the most influenced ones.
@@RibeiroGames12 My guy, Thrash goes beyond the Big 4. Also, as i said on my comment, They also influenced extreme metal bands (The swedish DM scene for example), the crust punk scene AND the d beat swedish scene (That Is really close to the DM scene)
@molibianco - Not even close to an “expert” on the subject. But for me, it was Englands own *’The Varukers’* who “gave birth” to what we all know & love as *D-beat* today. But then again, if you dig the music who really gives a *’bleep’* which band(s) may & or may not have started it, right?
The consensus is Buzzcocks who first recorded the "d-beat" pattern in the song "You Tear Me Up", late 1977-early 1978.
I was raised on Agnostic Front, Cro-Mags, and, Murphy's Law! I used to listen to "Age of Quarrel" at LEAST once a day.
RAISED ON IT? lucky you :D
I'm 45 now, but, "We Gotta Know" still makes me want to jump off furniture, and, break s**t!
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@@fredarsenault8987New Jersey, actually, but, CBGB's was a quick train ride into the city. PATH to Central, then subway to Christopher Street station. Then, just a block to Bowery & Bleeker.
If you're trying to get into hard-core punk, might I suggest the bands Bad Brains, Dead Kennedys, Black Flag, D.R.I, Suicidal Tendencies, and Leeway. The latter 3 also have a crossover thrash metal sound.
I love the Circle Jerks! They have always had a top spot on my rotation. So glad to see you get into this side of punk
Circle Jerks rule! My favorite punk band. Anything Kieth does is epic
Check out OFF! Kieths new band. They’re awesome. Dimitri Coates from Burning Brides
No Bad Brains, Minor Threat, Negative Approach, Gorilla Biscuits, Youth Of Today, Shelter, Chain of Strength, Earth Crisis, Judge, Biohazard, Leeway, In My Eyes, D.R.I, SSD….i could go on!!
Still AF, Cro Mags, Discharge are all worthy choices!!
So many great punk bands that you could make a week long video if you wanted to. But I think I'd separate the hardcore punk bands from the other hardcore bands
Chain of strength 7” on Rev is one of the finest hardcore records ever made
Sick of it All was the shit for us in High School.. and us was basically 4 of us weirdos who loved Hardcore and were Skateboarders in the late 80s
Oh.. and Agnostic Front, Cro-Mags and Sick of it All are all New York Hard Core (NYHC) which was the epicenter IMO.
Nothing like NY Hardcore … still fun, but much tougher and more aggressive. Id add Gorilla Biscuits, as well, just because lol though theres plenty of excellent options. Maybe Madball too.
That Cro mags intro had me geeked when I first heard it almost 40 years ago 🤯That whole album (Age of Quarrel) is one widely considered one of the best hardcore albums ever.
Love those Hardcore punk Reactions. Try some Fear, MDC, Gorilla Biscuits, NoMeansNo, Dag Nasty, Youth of Today or Gang Green
NoMeansNo... anything, preferably early incarnation, a copy of Jason Lamb's book "NoMeansNo: From Obscurity to Oblivion: An Oral History" will make its way to Kira!!! Mark my words.
My friends older bro went to rock against Reagan tour with MDC Reagan youth dead Kennedy's and other bands. I told him how was it. His exact words was he came back home with different shoes 🤣🤘
NoMeansNo "It's Catching Up" off the WRONG album.
@@phillramirez8323 sounds like a successful show to me 😄
@@imaginationofourselves7518 I bet 🤣 he was an old school punker in his teens
Sick of it all is one of the most energetic and fun bands live... saw them with agnostic front Sept 2022... amazing ... and Agnostic Front always delivers live... so glad someone is finally checking out Hardcore music... check out Madball ... sheer terror ... blood for blood ... there are so many great hardcore bands ...
Zen Arcade by Hüsker Dü is a masterpiece to my ears. I never get bored to listen to the whole album :)
I concur. Literally one of the better albums ever made. Although I prefer New Day Rising.
My fave has got to be Land Speed Record. ❤
@@paulmackay7265 New Day Rising is my favorite.
100% Kira should listen to it over and over for a week, like it's 1984 again.
Minor Threat, Negative Approach. Bad Brains, Fear, 7 Seconds. All great hardcore bands. Soamy more. Black Flag. DOA, MDC SSD, etc
Bad Brains yes!!!
Bad Brains and the original Black Flag with Kieth and the Circle Jerks and now OFF!
@@VaughnBrown1965 OFF is great! Brings me back to my punk days whenI was going to hardcore shows in clubs 1984-86. Seen most everyone Live back then in my youth!!
FEAR was f'n awesome! I'll play some at work for the "kids", and they're blown away.
Negative FX, S.O.A. , and some early British the exploited, GBH, Varukers
Great choices altogether, but Cro-Mags! Fantastic. A friend of mine who plays bass and I (drums) used to skip class and jam "We Gotta Know" in the jazz room in high school. The Age of Quarrel is a great album. Keep 'em coming!
I got really into punk and hardcore when i was a kid. I'll never forget the first time i heard Agnostic Front victim in pain in my walkman at school. Absolutely blown away. I felt like i was listening to the most extreme music ever. Same day i first heard Storm Troopers of Death also.
I remeber hearing their early stuff. I was never impressed. Whoever told Roger he can sing should be fired.
@snuffcore9686 if you don't like hardcore that's fine. It's not for everybody.
@@austin_l LOL. i have been listening to hardcore since 1982. I'm just not an Ag Front fan. And the whole racist-adjacent thing... I'm not down with. At all.
I agree with your sentiment that, for many, hardcore is somewhat of an acquired taste. But to quote Vic Bondi: "Normal people did not listen to hardcore, and we liked it like that."
You should dive into CROSSOVER (a mix of HC and metal), some bands: D.R.I., Suicidal Tendencies, Excel, Stormtroopers of Death, Dr. Know, Lobotomia, M.O.D.
Mackie, the drummer for The Cro Mags, is one of the best drummers in hardcore.
A good book to check out is "Our band could be your life" by Michael Azzerad. It covers various influential indie, hardcore and punk bands from the 1980's that eventually inspired a lot of grunge/ alternative rock bands. Also there's a great documentary on the singer of Bad Brains called "Finding Joseph I: The HR from Bad Brains documentary".
Lou and Pete Koller from Sick Of It All published a memoir a couple of years ago. It's a really fun read and has some wild stories in it. Especially the one about the hobo with a paper bag. You'll never guess how that turned out.
All those bands are great. I was a southern California punk from the 80's. Try some really fast songs. Middle Class "Out of Vogue", Ill Repute "Oxnard", Articles Of Faith "Bad Attitude" anything from early Poison Idea. So cool you are experiencing the world of hardcore.
Yes! That Cro Mags intro is one of my favorite drum intros of all time! Granted I was only 14 years old when I first heard it. ❤❤❤
You should really check out Raw Power " Politicians " or " We're All gonna Die " off the Album Screams From the Gutter . Raw Power is an old Hardcore Band from Italy but the Album Screams From the Gutter was recorded in Indianapolis , Indiana . The Zero Boys is also a Great Band from the late 70's early 80's . Glad to see people exploring and enjoying Great Bands and Music :)
Got to see Raw Power in the 80s. Great show. They played in Michigan at a hall out in the boonies.
Mighty DISCHARGE
More Bad Brains please!🙏Banned in DC is one of the best hardcore tracks ever. The arrangement on the track is really cool.
band wrote the most perfect hardcore record in 82, its insane how the cracked the code so early on.
case in point, the breakdown in right brigade.
*Listen to 'The Unseen', 'Strike Amywhere', 'The Exploited', and 'Calibre 12 - o Espelho', Turnstile.*
Supported Discharge in 1982
i supported naplam death onslaught chaos uk ,. scream , and i think concrete sox and a few more in early 80s i still have the flyer some where frrom on of the gigs , great fun and gigs were so cheap like 1.50 and we played for free beer a lot
Funny enough, you did say "this is like metal" and you aren't wrong at all.
Punk and heavy metal are both sub-genres of rock, but heavy metal is specifically a heavier form of hard rock. Hardcore punk is punkrock + hard rock, but punkrock + heavy metal can also fall under that category, so long as the majority of it is punk.
If there's more metal in it than punk, it's thrash metal... and if you add hardcore punk into thrash metal (making it a more balanced middle ground) you'll end up with "grindcore" or "crossover thrash", and of course their sub-genres and off-shoots.
So yeah... punk + metal can be hardcore, but it can also be a bunch of other things. And hardcore can have either metal or hard rock, in the mix with punk
Discharge is one of the most influential hardcore bands of all time. They were one of the first bands not only to play that face meltingly fast and hard but also to include more tough, hard edged metal solos in punk songs. They paved the way for crust punk, grindcore, powerviolence, any other obscure genre of extreme punk edged heavy music. Bands like Napalm death and even some early death metal bands will cite them as a key influence, not to mention the whole wave of “d-beat” bands that basically exist to copy discharge as closely as possible (disclose, disfear, disarm, etc, notice a pattern here?) super sick band I would also recommend you check out the songs Aint No Feeble Bastard, Hear Nothing See Nothing Say Nothing, Protest and Survive, Cries of Help
Love your reactions as always, you need to hear Dayglo Abortions, Canada's best punk band, the entire album Feed us a fetus is a masterpiece....
I'd put NMN ever so slightly higher... sorry, Murray. The universe got it Wright putting both bands in the proximal location of Victoria, BC... such an epic era late 70s through to early 90s here. We had Neos, Dishrags (with Jade Blade), Red Tide (Ken Jensen's first), Pink Steel, Jerk Ward (Steve McBean's first, second being Mission of Christ) and more!!! How about a video dedicated to these? TH-cam has them all!!! *edit to add Infamous Scientists (duh), and mention the immensely important support from gig promoter fans, sometimes both, venues, sound recording production talent *Scott Henderson, looking at you!!!
Not the subhumans or doa?
Check out the song “Just Can’t Hate Enough” by Sheer Terror or “Ground Zero Brooklyn” by Carnivore. NYHC at its finest.
Luv your quirky personality. So intriguing and unique! Enjoy Punk and Metal. Keep Exploring Music!!
Discharge Go Harder Than All Hardcore Bands, I Saw Them Play A Few Months Ago In A Tiny Pub And Like Always, The Place Erupted With Energy
I really just came here for Sick of it All. It is the remastered (possibly rerecorded) version, so it does sound way clearer and punchy than the original, but that's kind of how they always sounded live. My favourite band and the first band I ever saw.
Yeah they are air tight live!
Another nice round up. I'm glad you like Sick of it All, as they were one of my favourites back in the day. I don't know if this is quite the right way to put it, but I always thought of them as being a great example of the "East Coast Hardcore" sound of the late 80s to early 90s. This is kind of how punk split between this East Coast sound and the West Coast punk that eventually becomes pop-punk (eew).
Your 'taster' videos of hardcore, stoner, punk & metal are great ! Keep posting them. So nice to see your reactions to music I grew up listening to and revisit every day. Everyone has their own favourite band / recommendations from the 80's which they've commented so I will throw in a few others- Adrenalin O.D., Ludichrist, Crucifix, Zero Boys.
If nobody has suggested it yet, Sick of it All’s tune “Scratch The Surface” was a really big song for them. Check that one out.
My first show was Circle Jerks in 1985, my favorite show is Cro-Mags in 1986, I loved Agnostic Front in the mid-80s, and I've been friends with Terry (Tezz) Bones of Discharge for 30 years. He moved to the US in the early '90s and lived 10 minutes from me. This video was so nostalgic.
Some incredible songs you have to listen to:
Bauhaus:
Passion Of Lovers
Dark Entries
Sanity Assassin
Peter Murphy:
All Night Long
Sisters Of Mercy:
Marian
Alice
Walk Away
Dominion
Siouxsie Sioux:
Cities In Dust
Spellbound
Minimal Compact:
The Next One Is Real
Joy Division:
Transmission
She’s Lost Control
Warsaw.
The Cure:
A Forest
Other Voices
A Night Like This
Charlotte Sometimes
Gang Of Four:
What We All Want
Give Keith Morris’ current band “OFF!” a listen, especially the first four EPs. You won’t be disappointed!
Sick! Your reactions are just like mine when i first heard some of these bands when i was 12 years old in 1986. (Except for Husker Du which were already in the "college/alternative" era so i never got into them.) Hardcore gives an aggressive but positive energy that has stayed with me most of my life.
Try out Raw Power from Italy. Screams from the gutter is my favorite. Its pretty amazing watching a young person get into stuff i was listening to 40+ years ago.
Im so glad i came across this. Its cool how you hear different sounds within hardcore punk. Hardcore has elevated so much as a genre. I also see you have 3 bands from NYC here. sick of it all, agnostic front, and cro-mags. Im from NYC and also part of the hardcore and punk scene here, and you'll notice that those bands sound heavier. Hardcore bands from new York City have always had a much heavier edge and sound and grittier.
FYI you've heard the singer for the Circle Jerks Keith Morris before. He was the lead singer in Black Flag when they recorded the song "Nervous Breakdown".
Kieth is the punk rock Jesus. OFF! Is important in the punk genre.
I've listened to all these bands from the start and still do. Love your excitement ha. I was 11 (1981... ) when I brought home my first Discharge 45 and it still makes me react the same way as you did here. A cool side note to me is that most punk bands were/are pretty real. Meaning, the music was made from a natural place. Not made for fame, not to get girls or boys, not for egos and surely not for money. Its was, for majority, made from heart, angst, frustration and/or pure fun. A genre of music that for many around the world, came with a movement, a lifestyle. It personally gave me friends and a place I belonged, soo much more than just the music.
Punk by 1982 was pretty much of the Hard-core variety and in UK was divided into Anarcho bands Crass, Conflict etc and what became to be known as UK82 bands after song by The Exploited one of "the Big 3" along with Discharge which you listened to and GBH you should listen to No Survivors by them "Last Rockers" by Vice Squad would be a good 4 to listen to. Another Discharge on to react to could be " Hear Nothing See Nothing Say Nothing" for the D-Beat drums
She just reacted to "the final bloodbath" off that lp...
New viewer here Kira & some fresh air. You are more than a reactor for sure. And you distinguish well between Thrash, Death, Metal, Rock, Glam, Emo and the only Hardcore that exists. Punk. But, to really know & experience Punk you have to “get in the pit”. Mosh. Pogo. Circle Pit. Stage Dive. When a punk falls in the pit, pick ‘em’ up. Corrosion of Conformity with Erick Eyke & Mike Dean. Straight Edge band Minor Threat album Out of Step. Hard-core punk songs are short because punks are in the pit. They’re made for it. Good job girl keep it up. You’re awesome.
Very nice mix of hardcore bands. You pick to listen. I recommend siege and infest for a little bit more fast, angry and short style 😎👍
You have to check out Negative Approach. That is all.
That Discharge album is a fun listen. Also you would like Youth of Today,(Breaking Down the Walls) Gorilla Bisquits(Start Today) Drscendants(Somery) GBH,(City Baby's Revenge) ALL great Punk albums...NOFX and Bad Religion also fun fast pink! Generation X,/Generation X-great melodic punk!
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Discharges hear nothing lp is a "fun" listen...wouldn't be my take on it tbh
Highly recommend "The Exploited -13 - Punk's Not Dead (Live 1981)" from the Live album "The Exploited- On stage"
Cool. Where's D.R.I.??
Vocalist Harley Flanagan from Cro-Mags lived in Aarhus, Denmark in the 70's with his mother and used to go to punk concerts at the age of 11-12 years old 😂
The line where punk ends, and hardcore begins, is Bad Brains album- Black Dots, recorded in 1979
I really loved the way you reacted to the songs, Cro-mags and discharge are fantastic! I mean all the bands on the list are great but those two.
She Looks and Sounds Sweet here!!
Age of Quarrel is probably in the top two hardcore albums of all time.
Street justice street justice for you and me street justice
The Age of Quarrel demo smokes the album.
Great music
Grew up in the 80s, hanging out low Manhattan. Washington Square park, just having fun.
@@bill9605 Great days that we're *NEVER* getting back. 🍻
Crumbsuckers-life of dreams is better imo..
Next episode should be your first local hardcore show
If Kira likes Bob Mould’s voice, shouldn’t she listen to Copper blue by sugar from 1992?
Punk isn't a sound, it's an ethos, it can sound like metal and still be 100% punk.
Absolutely. Nearly every music genre can be punk.
That's ridiculous, why even bother naming them as a genre or anything if it's just an ethos? So I guess music genres like Punk rock or Post-punk don't exist either because they're just ethos and have nothing to do with a specific genre or sound? You might as well just dispense with specific labels for anything and just call 'Holy Diver' by Dio Punk rock lol please don't talk shite 😂
It might be Hardcore punk meets Speed metal like a Punk variety of Proto-thrash or even Proto-crossover thrash although this happened later than the beginnings of Crossover as was 1987, it might well be Crossover thrash actually but it's difficult to tell, tbh it sounds like a more erratic variety of Hardcore punk with strong Speed metal leanings!
@@jpdicey789 Yea your take is just simply nonsense wth
@@crispy9249 It isn't nonsense it's just common sense just like it isn't common sense to just label Punk rock an ethos and arbitrarily decide it isn't also a specific genre of music, like I said to the other guy, please don't talk shite!
@@jpdicey789 Well it seems like you're really slow but "punk" is not a musical genre. It's an ideology and movement.
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Cheers Kira....so stoked to see you delve into Hardcore Punk. It's been a staple in my life for 42 years. I didn't live too far from Black Flag,Descendents and Circle Jerks. If you want to hear a faster Husker Du album, check out Land Speed Record. Big ups from California
You have to check out Dr. Know and RKL as well
Some more great Hardcore bands: Ripcord, Heresy, Adrenalin O.D., Articles of Faith
I've never - ever seen that reaction from a Discharge song (considering the lyrics :D ). Good luck with you channel :)
Sick of it All - Locomotive
Cro-Mags - Death Camps
Minor Threat - Betray
Circle Jerks - Beat Me Senseless or Wonderful
And yeah, Mackie from Cro-Mags is one of the best drummers in hardcore.
As for the Cro-Mags..., the drummer on that track is Mackie Jayson. He DEFINITELY has the "good foot". One of the best drummers in hardcore/punk. I'm loving your reviews by the way....
Hold the first,, Discharge,, Single 1981 in my Hands...was blown away.....!!!!
the second EP, Fight Back, blows their first EP away.
It, was,, fight back,,.. Thought, it was the first... Thanx for info... Then was the,, decotrol,, the first.. 🤔✌️
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..and Decontrol is better than both of em...
Sioa came in the late 80s and gradually turned into the archetype hardcore sound which was created by Cromags in 86
DOA Hardcore 81! Vancouver CA!
Fantastic list. Discharge not only influenced punk/hardcore and metal but also invented an entire sub genre of punk “D-Beat”
Love the NYHC love here. True story re: Mackie (Cro-Mags). He played on my drummers kit once and afterword my drummer had to replace all the heads. Man is a beast!
sick vid but you should check out the NYC Hardcore bands, Madball "Lockdown" , Biohazard "Urban discipline" , Gorilla biscuits "Forgotten" are as legendary as it gets in terms of Hardcore
Great video definitely some good picks! to understand early hardcore i'll quote the vocalist from M.D.C. "We're not trying to be digestible or melodic, we're giving you all our angst & all our feeling as loud as we can & as hard as we can."-Dave Dictor. So thats why Hardcore songs were often short & fast. Just an explosion of angry youth expression.
That kept us ‘in the Pit’. 🍻
You should try The Exploited and G.B.H.
Just got Troops of tomorrow on vinyl few days ago. To this day, i see it as best hardcore punk album ever produced.
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The exploited were/are and always will be, a fxxkin joke...don't get me wrong they did some decent stuff years ago but there are a million better "punk" bands....
@@davedennison7386 There always has to be one guy out there like you eh?
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Did that sting?, if u think troops of tomorrow is the best hc punk lp ever produced, that is a bold statement and as u are wrong,I feel it is my duty to correct you, if yer only 12, I apologise cos I loved em when I was young...I'll never forget how exciting it was 2 see em on top of the pops, miming to "dead cities"...
@@davedennison7386 It's intentionally bold statement because in sea of bands they're still my number one to this day for multiple reasons.
Great video - if you want to delve further into the world of hardcore I’d recommend: Earth Crisis - ‘Firestorm’ Burn - ‘…Shall Be Judged’ Integrity - ‘systems Overload’. Born Against - ‘By the Throat’.
Try some modern ones like Scowl, Restraining Order, Spy, Turnstile, Show me the body, Gel, etc
You should hit DOA, "The Prisoner" is one of my favourites.
Check out His Hero is Gone, late 90's crust punk
Check out Earth Crisis and Snapcase.
Also, if you want to get crazy specific to some regional music for no particular reason than curiosity, checkout the premier band from the early ‘00s in SWFL, Jiyuna “Moonrock Millionaire” (best recording available on Bandcamp.) Also, Savannah, Georgia’s Circle Takes The Square, “In The Nervous Light Of Sunday.”
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If you want to hear more Circle Jerks you should listen to Live Fast, Die Young
Listen to Crass!
Hello Kira, compliments for your choices, these bands are all amazing, even if I have to say I didn't expect to find a band like Discharge among these Hardcore bands. Discharge are one of the first UK punk bands, like Subhumans, GBH, Partisans, Disorder, Chaos UK, Blitz, UK Subs, etc. But when I was young my favourite punk bands were the so-called "anarcho-bands", first of all CRASS, then Conflict, Poison girls, Chumbawamba, Dirt, Rubella Bullets, Zounds, Flux Of Pink Indians, etc. They were very creative bands, for example Karma Sutra were really an incredible band, I'd like to see the reaction of your face if you listened to the song "When the music stops".... I am so curious..... ☺
Watching you dance like that makes me think you would probably love going to a punk show. Could totally imagine you going off in the pit.
Everytime I listen to this Hüsker Dü song, I see a skater ripping a concrete pool in my mind! 😃
I accidentally met the bassist of Husker Du going out one night to see a random show - turned out he was playing bass for the headlining band and barely anyone knew that! Got a picture and a signed dollar bill but I think I scared him a bit when I said that Land Speed Record (if you wanna talk early Husker Du and wild hardcore, definitely check that album out) was the kind of music that made me think of crashing my car to start off on a wild adventure lmao
One of the best hard-core punk bands ever is DFL . album, proud to be
I got a few bands to check out. Warzone : dont forget the struggle, dont forget the streets. Adolescents self titled album. Rudimentary peni: death church.
I like mainly melodic HC so Dag Nasty, Ignite, 7 Seconds, Bad Religion, No Fun At All, Uniform Choice, H2O, Rise Against.
You’ve got an excellent ear for music, love it 👍
You really should have a listen to the Anarcho-punk bands such as Crass, Flux of Pink Indians, Poison Girls, Conflict, Zounds, Subhumans and of course the magnificent Rudimentary Peni who brought out arguably the greatest album ever made - Deathchurch.
One of the ideals of punk was to rail against the 60s and 70s music industry which hosted only artists that were considered to be extremely talented and made 10 minute prog songs. This is why you don't really find guitar solos in punk.
Check out the song Cheap Wine by Blood for Blood and the Song What Will the Neighbors think by murphy's Law
The guitarist in my band (Fire is Murder) is Steve Gallo. He used to play drums for Agnostic Front. His brother Mike is still their bass player. This is awesome! I never see anyone reacting to them!
It's true; because music is always along a continuum, the exact line is difficult to call, but to me a couple in this list are right adjacent to there: Circle Jerks and Agnostic Front. Those are right about where punk rock breaks out into hardcore. The L.A. punk band, X, had some hardcore-leaning material, but they [among others] backed away from the sound after too much violence by skins at shows. Oh, and The Misfits began as straight punk rock, but were basically hardcore by their final effort, Wolf's Blood, so the line is somewhere in there too.
With hindsight I think British bands like Discharge and GBH were really influenced by Motorhead's sound. I didn't see this at the time because they seemed like different genres. Motorhead played reasonably large venues at the time but Discharge etc played smaller shows were you could get quite close to the stage and speakers.
When I first heard Discharge it was like punk was taken to the battleground via Northern Ireland, Cold War and the apocalyptic nature of the time that there would be no look at tomorrow. Informed by bands like Crass who injected anarchism and pacifism into our knowledge base really felt like we could move mountains if we could just be heard.
As some other people mentioned, Discharge isn't really "hardcore punk" per se , they more or less created the sound of and later on genre "D-beat" (the drumming rythm in the song you listened to). Street Punk is a genre that is very related to it but may or may not contain the D-beat. The bands of these genres was a MAJOR influence to Speed Metal, Thrash Metal and Black Metal.
Think the easiest way to distinguish these bands is that the Hardcore Punk bands emerged in the 80s in USA, influenced by early UK Punk. D-beat and Street Punk emerged in the UK, without/minor influences of the bands in USA. That's why they sound quite a bit different.
GBH and the Exploited were very influential to many metal bands but I wouldn't say they were to speed metal tbh. Speed metal was created by Motorhead in 77, but there were a couple of songs before them made by budgie, Scorpions, deep purple, riot, queen, judas priest, etc that were speed metal
So speed metal influenced street punk not the other way around.
Yes you are correct! Thought about that too after writing it, makes a lot more sense :)@@RibeiroGames12
If you listen to The Misfits career you can hear them go from a punk band to hardcore band. The early stuff is slow and by the later Earth AD album it's very fast hardcore. The Misfits are from my home state of New Jersey. Keith Morris of The Circle Jerks was the original singer of Black Flag He formed The Circle Jerks later. He is now in the band OFF! which is very much hardcore. Agnostic Front and Sick Of It All and The Cro Mags are all New York Hardcore bands. Circle Jerks.. Dead Kennedys.. Black Flag.. X the band.. are from Las Angeles. Minor Threat.. Fugazi.. Dag Nasty.. Government Issue and the Bad Brains are Washington DC bands. Greetings from New Jersey.. )^_-)/
Early D.R.I. ... Suicidal Tendencies ... Misfits ... they definitely qualify as punk rock.
It was S.O.D. (Stormtroopers of Death) in 1985 by members of Anthrax that is credited w/ the "crossover" scene fusing metal and hardcore punk... S.O.D.'s "Speak English or Die" (and their 2nd album 'Bigger than the devil') r truly remarkable records.
Carnivore was also East Coast hardcore in the 80's by (the late) Peter Steele (bass/ vocals) who went on to success w/ Type O Negative... Carnivore released 2 albums ('Carnivore' and 'Retaliation')
Amen was also a hardcore punk band that should have been bigger, formed by vocalist Casey Chaos, they released 3 albums - 'Amen' ... "We've come for your parents" ... 'Death before musick'
Superjoint Ritual (now Superjoint) was the hardcore band formed by Phil Anselmo of Pantera on vocals & guitar w/ Jimmy Bower of Eyehategod... 3 albums - 'Use once & destroy'... 'A lethal dose of American hatred' ... 'Caught up in the gears of application'.
MD.45 was the punk rock project by Megadeth's Dave Mustaine on guitar and Fear vocalist Lee Ving... They released 1 album 'The Craving'.
Dead Cross is the punk band formed by former Slayer drummer Dave Lombardo and Faith No More vocalist Mike Patton ... and have 2 albums.
Napalm Death - grindcore kings from the UK... they combined the speed of punk rock and the intensity of thrash metal to create a blast of sound... Since their 1987 debut album 'Scum'... Napalm Death is everything punk rock bands wish they could be.
Billy,Dan,Scott and Charlie.🤟
Ahhh Yes, the sound of bullies in the cool kids section! Except for husker du. They were a little refuge. Still love this music though even though it invokes some sketchy memories