I attended 4 days of the 2-week trial in San Francisco when the band sued Jello. Jello came off SO bad. He looked like a sweatshop owner being caught abusing his workers. Wasn't just me that thought that, the jury thought that and ruled against Jello. DH Peligro was working as a DHL delivery driver during the trial, while Jello withheld royalties, that came out, too. Jello even made a point in trial to try to prove that HE was the mastermind, he wrote all the songs, and the band where just low-value employees who could have been anyone. It looked awful for him. Jello also tried to grandstand and acted like it was one of his spoken word shows, he didn't notice he had a hostile audience. Juries are usually working people who can't get off jury duty, can't afford to be on a jury, and are losing money being there. (At the time, jury duty in San Fran paid 5 dollars a day.) This never should have gone to trial. Jello turned down doing it in arbitration, could have paid out and settled out of court and saved everyone a lot of money, and not ruined his reputation as hard as quickly. But he took it to a jury trial of working people in a city that loves worker's rights, and came off looking like Mister Burns blaming Bart Simpson for getting hit by Mr. Burns' car.
What a disappointment. Not only the legal problems, but the fact the band are still going with only two original members as the "Dead Kennedys". They've basically gone the way of Journey, Foreigner, and The Eagles. On a smaller scale though.
@@brycekube I remember reading about Jello slicing his shirts with razor blades before shows so his shirts would rip apart when the crowd grabbed him .
I lived the same apartment building as DH Peligro in Echo Park, Los Angeles from 2001 until he moved out a few years later. Got to know him a bit, hung out in his apartment and had a few long chats. One thing I learned, that not many people know, is he was functionally illiterate. DH could read, but barely, like 1st grade level. Jello had to know this, being in a band with him. This is relevant because it likely means any contract signed by him should have been unenforceable.
I would love to see you next do a video specifically on jello regarding the numerous 180s he has done with regards to his past stances and statements and essentially turned his back on his integrity and common sense. He is now part of the establishment left that pushes their woke ideologies on the rest of us.
Jello is a painful human. When he came to my town to play he ranted on stage about a local issue that he clearly had no idea about. This achieved nothing and left him looking like a weird serial activist.
Because it shifted. There is nothing rebellious left in "punk" really. Same side as the establishment nowdays. Useful idiots of the New World Order. Only "anti" left is anti-reason.
Idk if this counts but Agnostic Front had litigation but it more about an injury to a concert goer, but anyway I don't think its a left or right thing I think its just a musician main character syndrome thing
When I heard what he did to his band mates. I couldn’t continue to listen to em. I mean he Fk’d over his mates. However I wasn’t there so idk. I mean that got good stuff man. He had some crazy ideas when talking about try to run for major in SF but I didn’t read into it much.
It's sad that one of the most influential band has to go through all this BS for greedy issues that go against what they preach. Now, DK has become from influential to a nostalgia band
I wrote a detailed comment about attending the trial in SF where the band sued Jello, and how bad Jello came off. My comment is gone now. Did this channel delete it, or did TH-cam? Can't imagine why either would.
@@PunkTome Thanks. Maybe I'll try again and make it shorter, or a couple shorter ones. Though TH-cam does have a secret unpublished list of words that just get posts removed. Channels can add their own too. But since it wasn't you, I can't fathom what word I used that got TH-cam triggered.
@@jonnytlong Thanks. Those are the ones I re-wrote from memory after the first longer one that had both topics in one comment vanished. I think I figured out what it was. In the vanished comment I included the street address of the apartment. Just trying to be detailed, but I bet TH-cam thought it was doxing. (certainly not him at this point, and certainly not me.) If you ever interview London from Samhain, ask him about what I said about DH and contracts. London knew DH and they were friends. Hell, ask Jello about it.
I liked the DK's and they had some true classics. But I rarely listen to them anymore. I had a hard time doing so ever since this dispute broke out. Regardless of who is lying who was trying to pocket money or whatever, the whole shenanigan seemed to betray everything they said they were about. Humans are humans. We do dumb things. But of all the punk rock bands to have something like this transpire. Them? Really? The only similar thing I can think of was Chumbawamba signing with EMI. They had their argument, and I can accept it to a point. But... just from a "branding perspective" (it hurts to use that term in this context, but it is what it is), it was dumb as hell. I think a lot of their fans would have forgiven them for signing with almost any other major label. But EMI? The optics were bad. Humans are humans. We do dumb things.
Jello never stopped thinking that part of the punk rebellion was a continuation of the protests of the 1960s. He's right, as that is the American context. Now the n*zi punks can wallow in the mud of republican trash and think they are the rebellion.
It’s an angled jack & the pedal next to it (Line 6 DL4) has its output on the top. You can see the cable going between them just not the beginning or end of it. And he’s going into the DL4 first then the blue Boss compressor pedal as guitar pedals run right to left.
I just saw them a few weeks ago. They were great. It sucks they fight like a divorced couple bringing up shit from thirty years ago. Ron Greer is like the cool stepdad. He does his best but it should be Jello and they should be releasing new music.
I attended 4 days of the 2-week trial in San Francisco when the band sued Jello. Jello came off SO bad. He looked like a sweatshop owner being caught abusing his workers. Wasn't just me that thought that, the jury thought that and ruled against Jello. DH Peligro was working as a DHL delivery driver during the trial, while Jello withheld royalties, that came out, too.
Jello even made a point in trial to try to prove that HE was the mastermind, he wrote all the songs, and the band where just low-value employees who could have been anyone. It looked awful for him. Jello also tried to grandstand and acted like it was one of his spoken word shows, he didn't notice he had a hostile audience.
Juries are usually working people who can't get off jury duty, can't afford to be on a jury, and are losing money being there. (At the time, jury duty in San Fran paid 5 dollars a day.)
This never should have gone to trial. Jello turned down doing it in arbitration, could have paid out and settled out of court and saved everyone a lot of money, and not ruined his reputation as hard as quickly.
But he took it to a jury trial of working people in a city that loves worker's rights, and came off looking like Mister Burns blaming Bart Simpson for getting hit by Mr. Burns' car.
I loved that band in my early teens..........but must admit Biafra makes me cringe everytime I see him
@@realsinisterminister And hear him.
Thanks. I was never really clear about what went on.
I believe that 100% - Sometimes he's full of himself 0 DK's music is 65% BS (in my opinion) - The other tunes are fkin great
Jello wants to seem so righteous but is a corporate greedy man skimming from his friends
❤
R.I.P. Peligro
I'm glad I saw DK with D H before his sad passing .
Same, 1982 or 83. Still the best gig have ever been to.
What a disappointment. Not only the legal problems, but the fact the band are still going with only two original members as the "Dead Kennedys". They've basically gone the way of Journey, Foreigner, and The Eagles. On a smaller scale though.
So sad. Fkn sucks
Well, Too Drunk to Fuck is still a great song and Holiday in Cambodia still one of the best intro’s ever!!
And they're the ones who were scared of the hardcore kids
@@brycekube I remember reading about Jello slicing his shirts with razor blades before shows so his shirts would rip apart when the crowd grabbed him .
DH was not an original member
They're one of my favorite punk bands of all time. Love the video and thank you!!-
Nice to see in the comments section that people are finally beginning to see jello for who he really is.
I lived the same apartment building as DH Peligro in Echo Park, Los Angeles from 2001 until he moved out a few years later. Got to know him a bit, hung out in his apartment and had a few long chats.
One thing I learned, that not many people know, is he was functionally illiterate. DH could read, but barely, like 1st grade level. Jello had to know this, being in a band with him.
This is relevant because it likely means any contract signed by him should have been unenforceable.
Decent band but you don’t have the scratch the surface too much to see the hypocrisy in this type of mentality.
Me and a friend got so drunk one day that we heckled jello at one his spoken word shows
what Jello did goes against the entire message of most of his music in dk what a sham lol
I would love to see you next do a video specifically on jello regarding the numerous 180s he has done with regards to his past stances and statements and essentially turned his back on his integrity and common sense. He is now part of the establishment left that pushes their woke ideologies on the rest of us.
He blamed Hamas for the IDF attacks on Gaza on his podcast. What a horrible take…
Jewllo
Jello is a painful human. When he came to my town to play he ranted on stage about a local issue that he clearly had no idea about. This achieved nothing and left him looking like a weird serial activist.
I believe that
get jabbed jello. Government flu jabbed. What a debacle.
Bet jello is triple boosted in San Francisco
“Government flu” didn’t do enough 🤦♂️
Maga 'punks', maga 'punks', maga 'punks'... You can finish it.
@@timbrownhill7272Commie punx, Commie punx, Commie punx,.....
These holier than thou types always able to see the wrong in everything are all this way
You make some of the best music related videos on TH-cam. Thank you.
Biafra is the Ginn of this band…
Biafra flirts/gets touchy with his underage fans?
@@cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245For all we know, probably.
let’s be honest. whether he admits it or not, Jello loves going to court. always has
Left wing bands are always the most litigious. You never hear about guys in RAC bands suing each other or even the people bootlegging their albums.
Because it shifted. There is nothing rebellious left in "punk" really. Same side as the establishment nowdays. Useful idiots of the New World Order.
Only "anti" left is anti-reason.
RAC?
@@ottoacid1800 because nowadays punk is just part of the establishment. Same side. Useful idiots of the New World Order.
Idk if this counts but Agnostic Front had litigation but it more about an injury to a concert goer, but anyway I don't think its a left or right thing I think its just a musician main character syndrome thing
You read the comment and discover more about the commenter than about the subject being commented on. RAC?
Never could enjoy these guys because i had a strong dislike of the vocal sounds. Seeing this reminded me of this. Thank you
When I heard what he did to his band mates. I couldn’t continue to listen to em. I mean he Fk’d over his mates. However I wasn’t there so idk. I mean that got good stuff man.
He had some crazy ideas when talking about try to run for major in SF but I didn’t read into it much.
Great to hear both sides.
glad to hear your voice again
Sorry but after watching everyone winge I'm still in the no jello no DK mentality 😂
womp womp
“In the city is it true that if you don’t you act like you do?”
It's sad that one of the most influential band has to go through all this BS for greedy issues that go against what they preach. Now, DK has become from influential to a nostalgia band
I wrote a detailed comment about attending the trial in SF where the band sued Jello, and how bad Jello came off. My comment is gone now. Did this channel delete it, or did TH-cam? Can't imagine why either would.
It never came through. I'm sorry about that, but it wasn't me
@@PunkTome Thanks. Maybe I'll try again and make it shorter, or a couple shorter ones. Though TH-cam does have a secret unpublished list of words that just get posts removed. Channels can add their own too. But since it wasn't you, I can't fathom what word I used that got TH-cam triggered.
It’s on here. Also the other one about you living in the same apartment complex as DH is on here
@@jonnytlong Thanks. Those are the ones I re-wrote from memory after the first longer one that had both topics in one comment vanished.
I think I figured out what it was. In the vanished comment I included the street address of the apartment. Just trying to be detailed, but I bet TH-cam thought it was doxing. (certainly not him at this point, and certainly not me.)
If you ever interview London from Samhain, ask him about what I said about DH and contracts. London knew DH and they were friends. Hell, ask Jello about it.
I liked the DK's and they had some true classics. But I rarely listen to them anymore. I had a hard time doing so ever since this dispute broke out. Regardless of who is lying who was trying to pocket money or whatever, the whole shenanigan seemed to betray everything they said they were about. Humans are humans. We do dumb things. But of all the punk rock bands to have something like this transpire. Them? Really?
The only similar thing I can think of was Chumbawamba signing with EMI. They had their argument, and I can accept it to a point. But... just from a "branding perspective" (it hurts to use that term in this context, but it is what it is), it was dumb as hell. I think a lot of their fans would have forgiven them for signing with almost any other major label. But EMI? The optics were bad.
Humans are humans. We do dumb things.
Ive always felt like i was the only one who could never stand DK
Jabbed establisment caricatures.
Hippies
Yes. If you think about it , most punks are really just hippies dressed differently.
@@bootchop88 absolutely not. Hippies and artists are parasites on the scene
Exactly
Jello never stopped thinking that part of the punk rebellion was a continuation of the protests of the 1960s. He's right, as that is the American context. Now the n*zi punks can wallow in the mud of republican trash and think they are the rebellion.
How many more times will my comments be deleted?
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@@mythmaker1648 cancelling is as gay as the punk scene nowadays.
and the fans pay the price.
Sounds like they became a greedy corporation like the ones they were singing about 😂 oh the irony 😂
12:38 - I dont understand what that pedal is doing...... theres an output but no input....
It’s an angled jack & the pedal next to it (Line 6 DL4) has its output on the top. You can see the cable going between them just not the beginning or end of it. And he’s going into the DL4 first then the blue Boss compressor pedal as guitar pedals run right to left.
I just saw them a few weeks ago. They were great. It sucks they fight like a divorced couple bringing up shit from thirty years ago. Ron Greer is like the cool stepdad. He does his best but it should be Jello and they should be releasing new music.
A familiar face I wasn't expecting to see here.
@@Canis_Fatalis wherever two or more gather in the name up punk I will be there my child.
No Fucking Way !
I would have seen them with Brandon.
I saw them with Brandon . That version sucked too .
Eh, the dead Kennedy's are a fairly mediocre punk band to me.
T.b.h I fuckin' hate Jello. But to each their own.