I have watched numerous reviews on various UTVs as I struggle to decide which one is for me. Most reviews are done by channels such as Dirt Trax, and they all seem only interested in producing mostly favourable reviews because they depend on paid advertisements from these manufacturers. Your review is, hands down, the best, most honest, review I have seen yet! Thank-you, SIr.
I like how the trail fits in with almost any group ride. These guys that always complain about wanting more horsepower probably forget that trail riding isn’t a drag race. It’s about exploring and squeezing between trees lol. I would call SXSs a car before I called it a bike. Great review btw. Even better than some of the professional media guys. Lots of angles, drone shots, voice overs. You do great videos.
What a great compliment man. Thank you for taking the time to write it. Really. And i couldnt agree more about the trails and guys that always need to be a bit faster. This will crush the big “bikes” 😣 on the trails.
Most of the fun mountain trails around me are 50”. So the choice is clear for me. It’s hilarious watching the large machines driving up and down the main dirt roads that a Honda Accord could handle just fine.
Having a 50 inch machine certainly has its advantages. I just wish they put a little more thought into the engineering to give it better ground clearance. The thing has about the same ground clearance as a Honda accord is the problem
The reason for the low ground clearance is because it’s set low from factory to help with rollover and stability with its narrow stance with unsuspecting customers. Get your suspension tool out and adjust the ring to the specs in your owners manual and it will sit at the 11 inch. In doing so it will suck wheels in so it isn’t as wide.
Good review. I'm shopping for one of these and I appreciated the honesty from you. That rear ground clearance issue is interesting and I'll definitely check that out in the showroom when I go look for one.
Great video. Thanks for the review. I’ve been on dirt bike and then quads for the past 40 years. I think it’s only natural for me to want a SXS now. I also have a little side kick. Just a little older. Enjoy every moment. They glow up so fst
Looks awesome... It is awful that all the companies who build them lie about the numbers but on the upside your having fun with the sidekick... That is what matters most in this world... Both of my sidekicks are too cool to hang with dad much... I don't see too many 50 inch trail machines here... Stay safe... Have a great day... Tell Kirk I said Hi...
This was an awesome review and I consider it one of the best and appreciate your honesty, Ive been looking for the same type of machine and your review answered all the questions I could not find anywhere else, Believe me I've tried ! good job and thanks !
I have the rzr trail s 1000 ultimate and I absolutely love it. I may add extra speakers at the top but that’s just personal preference. Once on the trail with the outdoor noise I find myself constantly trying to turn up the volume.
It is a better selling machine. Therefore, their engineering time is invested in that. In the end I do think I should’ve went with this version the 60 inch 1000. I agree with you about the stereo. But for me, it also depends on where my music is sourced Apple Music is so quiet you don’t even know it’s playing. Whereas Spotify or TH-cam music is much better. For sound quality and max volume.
Yeah, that's a big bummer, about the clearance! NICE, THOROUGH review! That acceleration is NUTZ! Thanks for sharing! What's the sticker price for this model?
Jack of all trades but master of none but still better than the master of one..., love the review!! I'm thinking of trading in my polaris 850 ultimate trail atv for this.
Thanks. I think its a fair review. I am happy with it overall. But there are some things that could and should be easily improved. Thanks allot for checking it out.
Great review I believe your ground clearance is due to sag and use on your shocks you need to adjust your preload to get your ground clearance back up to 11 inches loaded its not real hard to do I am guessing the dont want to go any higher in ground clearance on a 50 in. Machine due to more tendency to tip over and safety standards they have to meet I have had 5 different polaris rzrs and cussed out their designers more than once as you found out but still go back to polaris have fun.
My other complaint besides the low ground clearance is that it's not really 50". With (stock) tire bulge, I measure my 2021 RZR Trail Ultimate at more like 52" - 54" wide. I've actually scraped going through 50" USFS gates. I don't know why the USFS/BLM can't lighten up a little with their gate widths to 55". The 60" machines still wouldn't be able to get through, and you wouldn't have to worry about scrapes and leaving paint and parts behind....
@@AlfonsLC Not sure how EXACT that measurement was (by myself with a tape measure), but I figured the outside edge of the wheel rims were the widest points (actually the tire side walls are, but they're flexible). I'm certain it's more than 50", and although I didn't measure the USFS gates I'm equally certain they were exactly 50", or less.
Excellent review! Can’t decide between the trail or trail s.. leaning towards the tighter turning radius of the ‘50’in for my narrow trails but…. U wish u would’ve bought the trail S, huh? Thx
I am at work a night shift, taking breaks, watching videos about people that have lifted and made this wider. Thinking to myself why did I just not get the wider model from the start. I may even list mine for sale. And buy another one. I think the 50 inch model could be great, but they severely neglect the engineering inside. it is way way too low to the ground unless you cannot use a wider machine where you live I would not recommend it. To be clear I don’t hate the machine. I still like it. But yes, I recommend the 60 inch if you can
Great review. I have the 2022 RZR 900 Trail Premium, bought it with 24 miles on it and Im still in the break in phase (16 hours). In regards to the BREAK-IN period I wish saw your review before heading out. Ive been varying the RPMs but I did hit 7500 for a short blast. I was told in the forums just to vary the RPMs. Also you dont mention anything about the heat in the cab, to me its a bit excessive and I cant imagine what a hot 90+ degree day is going to feel like. Like you I bought this machine to ride with family and friends with ATVs and Im looking forward to many adventures.
I did skip this point for sure. My thinking is this. All SXS that i have been in. All have this problem. They all have the radiators up front. So it seems a general sxs design problem. But. Maybe it shouldve mentioned. It can suck in summer. I personally wish. The door where easier to pop off. Like a wrangler. That would be amazing.
Looking into getting one have tight trails by my house that I ride my ATV definitely wouldn’t fit a 60” main reason is to be able to ride comfortably with my son and wife overall do you recommend?
Ive seen these before. I may buy the one inch version. But im may add wheel spacers. So the two inch lift narrowed it by two inches also ? Am i understanding correctly ?
When I had mine, I opted for the 2” MMA lift and 27” Sedona Ripsaw tires. That took care of the problem. I have now swapped up to an XP1000 for personal reasons.
I had an RZR… 2008 2009. I believe, I beat the living snot out of that thing for two years and other friends following me told me I was burning oil…. So I traded it in and bought a Honda…. come to find out later on the man who bought the RZR, the engine blew up!.. the man who bought it was a pretty competent mechanic however,Weiseco sent him the wrong pistons, and it blew up again! not really surprised. .. no more side-by-sides for me .. too big and heavy, currently a 2024 Polaris sportsman 570 Hunt edition… so far great machine.😊
Do you still have the 50” model or did you upgrade to a wider one? I’m torn between a 50” 2 seater or a 60” 4 seater. Looking at the rzr 800 versions of both. I can’t afford a new one right now
I still have it. I like having it. But i despise the horrible ground clearance. Those two machines you are torn between are really apples and oranges different. Keep in mind longer base also makes tight turning between trees harder.
@@AlfonsLC 27x9x12 will get you another 3/4-1" of height. Add some tender springs front and back. I do 1.5" Rough Country spacers when i don't need to stay 50" wide, why i stayed with rims and just went 27x9. Stock tires are not 26" tall, i think they are 24ish
Looking into getting one have tight trails by my house that I ride my ATV definitely wouldn’t fit a 60” main reason is to be able to ride comfortably with my son and wife overall do you recommend?
Yes. I do. But you will hate the shitty ground clearance. As i do. But it is still good. Keep in mind this machine is a bit wider than 50”. Maybe 53”. Still fir perfectly on my sportsman trails though.
I have a 2023 RZR 900 Trail, I can confirm everything you said. Excellent review.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and opinions. Great narration and drone video.
I have watched numerous reviews on various UTVs as I struggle to decide which one is for me. Most reviews are done by channels such as Dirt Trax, and they all seem only interested in producing mostly favourable reviews because they depend on paid advertisements from these manufacturers. Your review is, hands down, the best, most honest, review I have seen yet! Thank-you, SIr.
Wow. What a great compliment thanks so much. Glad it helped. Theres allot of good options out there.
I like how the trail fits in with almost any group ride. These guys that always complain about wanting more horsepower probably forget that trail riding isn’t a drag race. It’s about exploring and squeezing between trees lol.
I would call SXSs a car before I called it a bike.
Great review btw. Even better than some of the professional media guys. Lots of angles, drone shots, voice overs. You do great videos.
What a great compliment man. Thank you for taking the time to write it. Really. And i couldnt agree more about the trails and guys that always need to be a bit faster. This will crush the big “bikes” 😣 on the trails.
I was an 80’s kid and I’m only 1 minute through the video and I’m loving it
Most of the fun mountain trails around me are 50”. So the choice is clear for me. It’s hilarious watching the large machines driving up and down the main dirt roads that a Honda Accord could handle just fine.
Having a 50 inch machine certainly has its advantages. I just wish they put a little more thought into the engineering to give it better ground clearance. The thing has about the same ground clearance as a Honda accord is the problem
@@AlfonsLC 27” tires and Elka shocks will give you the 11” +. I think that’s a must for these 50” machines.
The reason for the low ground clearance is because it’s set low from factory to help with rollover and stability with its narrow stance with unsuspecting customers. Get your suspension tool out and adjust the ring to the specs in your owners manual and it will sit at the 11 inch. In doing so it will suck wheels in so it isn’t as wide.
Just bought one and loving it so far great machine!
Just paid off my 2021 trail now I really love it ‼️‼️
Good review. I'm shopping for one of these and I appreciated the honesty from you. That rear ground clearance issue is interesting and I'll definitely check that out in the showroom when I go look for one.
Great video. Thanks for the review. I’ve been on dirt bike and then quads for the past 40 years. I think it’s only natural for me to want a SXS now. I also have a little side kick. Just a little older. Enjoy every moment. They glow up so fst
Awesome comment to read. Thank you so much for taking the time.
Great video felt like I was there driving this machine
Looks awesome... It is awful that all the companies who build them lie about the numbers but on the upside your having fun with the sidekick... That is what matters most in this world... Both of my sidekicks are too cool to hang with dad much... I don't see too many 50 inch trail machines here... Stay safe... Have a great day... Tell Kirk I said Hi...
I’m very glad to of heard from you mike. The sidekick and me are having fun for sure. I will tell him.
This was an awesome review and I consider it one of the best and appreciate your honesty, Ive been looking for the same type of machine and your review answered all the questions I could not find anywhere else, Believe me I've tried ! good job and thanks !
Wow. Thank you for taking the time to let me know. Made my day.
Best video I've ever seen!
Excellent video! Well done
Best video yet brother 👍
Wow really. Thank you. Its another topic i want to cover. But after a year of absence. I want to get cracking again.
I have the rzr trail s 1000 ultimate and I absolutely love it. I may add extra speakers at the top but that’s just personal preference. Once on the trail with the outdoor noise I find myself constantly trying to turn up the volume.
It is a better selling machine. Therefore, their engineering time is invested in that. In the end I do think I should’ve went with this version the 60 inch 1000. I agree with you about the stereo. But for me, it also depends on where my music is sourced Apple Music is so quiet you don’t even know it’s playing. Whereas Spotify or TH-cam music is much better. For sound quality and max volume.
Yeah, that's a big bummer, about the clearance! NICE, THOROUGH review! That acceleration is NUTZ! Thanks for sharing! What's the sticker price for this model?
Thanks very much. When I bought it, it was 17,000. No it’s almost 22,000.
mine was $18,200. put 1 1/2" spacers with 27" megabites, adjusted the shocks at the half way setting.and adjusted the springs up. rides really good.
That thing rips! nice video Alfons!
Thank you !!
Jack of all trades but master of none but still better than the master of one..., love the review!! I'm thinking of trading in my polaris 850 ultimate trail atv for this.
Thanks. I think its a fair review. I am happy with it overall. But there are some things that could and should be easily improved. Thanks allot for checking it out.
Great review I believe your ground clearance is due to sag and use on your shocks you need to adjust your preload to get your ground clearance back up to 11 inches loaded its not real hard to do I am guessing the dont want to go any higher in ground clearance on a 50 in. Machine due to more tendency to tip over and safety standards they have to meet I have had 5 different polaris rzrs and cussed out their designers more than once as you found out but still go back to polaris have fun.
Great review.
My other complaint besides the low ground clearance is that it's not really 50". With (stock) tire bulge, I measure my 2021 RZR Trail Ultimate at more like 52" - 54" wide. I've actually scraped going through 50" USFS gates. I don't know why the USFS/BLM can't lighten up a little with their gate widths to 55". The 60" machines still wouldn't be able to get through, and you wouldn't have to worry about scrapes and leaving paint and parts behind....
Well. I must say i never actually checked that.
@@AlfonsLC Not sure how EXACT that measurement was (by myself with a tape measure), but I figured the outside edge of the wheel rims were the widest points (actually the tire side walls are, but they're flexible). I'm certain it's more than 50", and although I didn't measure the USFS gates I'm equally certain they were exactly 50", or less.
So. I will addressing this in a future video for sure. I have some ideas to make it more narrow. Or wider and higher for reasonably cheap.
@@AlfonsLC 👍👌
Great review. Thanks.
Great review!
Good stuff! Did you ever consider the maverick trail when you were looking to purchase?
Yes i did. But brand loyalty hot me.
Excellent review! Can’t decide between the trail or trail s.. leaning towards the tighter turning radius of the ‘50’in for my narrow trails but…. U wish u would’ve bought the trail S, huh? Thx
I am at work a night shift, taking breaks, watching videos about people that have lifted and made this wider. Thinking to myself why did I just not get the wider model from the start. I may even list mine for sale. And buy another one. I think the 50 inch model could be great, but they severely neglect the engineering inside. it is way way too low to the ground unless you cannot use a wider machine where you live I would not recommend it. To be clear I don’t hate the machine. I still like it. But yes, I recommend the 60 inch if you can
Definitely got me thinking- especially since I can get a ‘22 S for the same price as a ‘23 trail..
thx for the response and good luck!
Long time no hear but good to see ya and new toy. How's your good buddy ( sorry I don't remember his name ) and the jeep?
Everytjing is well. I had some life events but i will be making content again with lots of my usual topics. Thanks so much for checking it out.
If you were mostly riding on trails would you rather have this RZR or a Can Am Outlander XXC?
I have no experience with that machine so I cannot say
Great review. I have the 2022 RZR 900 Trail Premium, bought it with 24 miles on it and Im still in the break in phase (16 hours). In regards to the BREAK-IN period I wish saw your review before heading out. Ive been varying the RPMs but I did hit 7500 for a short blast. I was told in the forums just to vary the RPMs.
Also you dont mention anything about the heat in the cab, to me its a bit excessive and I cant imagine what a hot 90+ degree day is going to feel like.
Like you I bought this machine to ride with family and friends with ATVs and Im looking forward to many adventures.
I did skip this point for sure. My thinking is this. All SXS that i have been in. All have this problem. They all have the radiators up front. So it seems a general sxs design problem. But. Maybe it shouldve mentioned. It can suck in summer. I personally wish. The door where easier to pop off. Like a wrangler. That would be amazing.
@@AlfonsLCthis was a very good review. But cabin heat is worth mentioning as the competition made it a point to address it. Ride on, be safe!
Looking into getting one have tight trails by my house that I ride my ATV definitely wouldn’t fit a 60” main reason is to be able to ride comfortably with my son and wife overall do you recommend?
3 people no. Two people its very very nice. Lots of room for a little machine.
2" lift is under $100. I did mine along with 27" tires. Makes it right.
This is the kind of lift that lifts your shocks and a arms ? Effectively pulling them together and making it more narrow ?
@@AlfonsLC Yes. It mounts above shocks. stands them more upright and makes it closer to 50". Stock, the 50" trail models are closer to 52".
Ive seen these before. I may buy the one inch version. But im may add wheel spacers. So the two inch lift narrowed it by two inches also ? Am i understanding correctly ?
@@AlfonsLC I think mine pulled in about 3/4"- 1" with the 2" lift installed.
When I had mine, I opted for the 2” MMA lift and 27” Sedona Ripsaw tires. That took care of the problem.
I have now swapped up to an XP1000 for personal reasons.
I had an RZR… 2008 2009. I believe, I beat the living snot out of that thing for two years and other friends following me told me I was burning oil…. So I traded it in and bought a Honda…. come to find out later on the man who bought the RZR, the engine blew up!.. the man who bought it was a pretty competent mechanic however,Weiseco sent him the wrong pistons, and it blew up again! not really surprised. .. no more side-by-sides for me .. too big and heavy, currently a 2024 Polaris sportsman 570 Hunt edition… so far great machine.😊
I miss my quad sometimes. The open free air. Maybe ill get another one.
You need a rear back panel or else it acts like a vacuum and sucks all the dust into the cab
Its on there.
@@AlfonsLC nice looked like you went into the cab from the back in the one shot
@SJ_999 i did. I dont always leave it in. Took it out for filming some things. And when its real hot. Thanks for
Just bought mine. I have a house not far from there.
Small world 😊
Flexible funnel
Lol. I didnt have one. Placement sucks still.
Do you still have the 50” model or did you upgrade to a wider one? I’m torn between a 50” 2 seater or a 60” 4 seater. Looking at the rzr 800 versions of both. I can’t afford a new one right now
I still have it. I like having it. But i despise the horrible ground clearance. Those two machines you are torn between are really apples and oranges different. Keep in mind longer base also makes tight turning between trees harder.
Aftermarket assassins will tune that nicely
Someday. Im thinking of getting it just a bit higher and wider first. Wheel spacers and bigger tires maybe
@@AlfonsLC 27x9x12 will get you another 3/4-1" of height. Add some tender springs front and back. I do 1.5" Rough Country spacers when i don't need to stay 50" wide, why i stayed with rims and just went 27x9. Stock tires are not 26" tall, i think they are 24ish
Great review.
Looking into getting one have tight trails by my house that I ride my ATV definitely wouldn’t fit a 60” main reason is to be able to ride comfortably with my son and wife overall do you recommend?
Yes. I do. But you will hate the shitty ground clearance. As i do. But it is still good. Keep in mind this machine is a bit wider than 50”. Maybe 53”. Still fir perfectly on my sportsman trails though.