Sonja is difficult man. One thing not often said is that Sonja's arties are worse too. Similar to why people say "Lash's air units are bad", Sonja's arties don't benefit from counter break super (but vision of course is nice to indirect still). Therefore, every direct unit, is another unit that'll benefit her super, making it better. More arties, worse super. Tech up are also a bit better, not only for the increased counter attack, but the increased vision becomes significant. Tech ups tend to be close to blind, so having +1 vision can be huge. Also, 3 vision that can see into forests can save your neo in a pinch.
Put both cams on the left and move the map and information to the right is a solution but that would have deprived us of the long-headed egg known as "ngs."
only did a second skim-through to check it, but it looks like rader was using the lower base to support the left side(tank shifts early +inf chain), so it was 2base vs 2base+airport and base+airport vs 1 base, and then he could win both sides because it's such an infantry heavy map.
Elio should have waited a bit longer rather than just go balls to the wall immediately. Also, those two artilleries were pointless, this is not an artillery map, nor does it play to Sonja's strengths. He should have gone tanks, recons, copters, and maybe a md tank.
Now this is Deejcember lolol. You guys managed to bring the love to the AWBW commentary; the very thing Reboot camp boffoed. Really enjoying the content from you both. A+ gentlemen. ✌🏾❤️👾
Speaking as a qualified Sonja Main™, I honestly think no one would notice if she were moved into T4 in fog. The only reason she's still considered T3 in fog is because she punishes noobs in lower elo matches, and this artificially inflates her win rate in the rankings. Otherwise, having what is _effectively_ -15% Firepower and a nearly worthless COP (and a SCOP that synergizes extremely poorly with her abilities) ought to kill the idea of her being a viable CO, except that the AWBW admins are very slow to change things (we only got T2 Kindle a few months ago!) Now, if they were to implement AWDS Sonja.... Completely different ballgame... 😏
I'm always rooting for Sonja, but man Elio crumbled under the pressure after the unit count went up. He wasn't keeping track of the units he had vision over and was so frivolous with his own army. I wish I could have seen him play without a time limit where he'd be able to take the time to make more informed decisions.
Elio choked building so many artillery, literally no good vehicle shots the entire game. with arty on both sides. All the vehicle attacks were wasted attacking worthless infantry too when there were Sami vehicles open. Why, just why with the artillery they don't do anything useful with the Sonja vision where more than 1 tank on the strong side could have made a huge deep strike with the recon thanks to vision.
That opportunistic COP from Rader Elcaroman after Elio made several small mistakes was insanely effective. To do all that in live fog game against Sonja, that's impressive. That's when the game was decided. Sami is so good when she gets the unit count advantage.
Here’s an idea for a new series deej. You start a new account on awbw and fight lower level accounts with just one character. Get the account to like 1200s call it like Andy to the top or Sami. Even if you get tier 1 you fight with that same character no matter the matchup
This sounds stressful to me: a low capture limit means Sonja could easily lose with one Victory March without the HQ being capped. The Sonja player will really have to defend properties!
I pretty much only play FOW so I never realized... how in the world is Sami T2 on Standard? What? Why? You're seriously telling me in Standard she can duke it out with MAX??
Her infantry trounce the infantry of other COs at lower tiers usually, but yeah it's map dependent. Her capture game is also so damn powerful and victory march is a messed up SCOP not just for HQ, but for flipping many cities at once spells doom for the opponent if they don't have a unit advantage.
ngs here
LLO VRYONE, M NM S NGS
I wonder when Dangs makes an appearance.
hope you and ngs continue to collab!
"Sonja super power is great. It allows her to see how badly she's losing." - Mangs, 2024
Video starts, Mangs immediately laughing, this why I come here and love the collabs.
Large Mangs was too powerful, it makes sense he had to have his first two letters chopped off.
Unbans Sonja just so she can get crushed in a tier she should be better than.
A move taken by two purported Sonja fans.
Sonja is difficult man.
One thing not often said is that Sonja's arties are worse too. Similar to why people say "Lash's air units are bad", Sonja's arties don't benefit from counter break super (but vision of course is nice to indirect still). Therefore, every direct unit, is another unit that'll benefit her super, making it better. More arties, worse super.
Tech up are also a bit better, not only for the increased counter attack, but the increased vision becomes significant. Tech ups tend to be close to blind, so having +1 vision can be huge. Also, 3 vision that can see into forests can save your neo in a pinch.
All of these AW contents from both ᴺᵍˢ and Deej are just early Christmas for me..
"If I'm not going to win in style, is that really winning?"
"He's coming to Raid the first prize in his Elcaro" LMAO
Put both cams on the left and move the map and information to the right is a solution but that would have deprived us of the long-headed egg known as "ngs."
This way CO info will be missing. Better to move map with UI further to the right. There is still space left between deej cam and map
@dronnovik95 "co info" is "information"
Thin Mangs this time
Mngs, if you will
Thangs
Mangs so smol today.
He's a tiny egg today, like a quail egg
I am absolutely loving this series. Duo commenting the grandmasters tournament is amazing. Please keep it coming!
only did a second skim-through to check it, but it looks like rader was using the lower base to support the left side(tank shifts early +inf chain), so it was 2base vs 2base+airport and base+airport vs 1 base, and then he could win both sides because it's such an infantry heavy map.
Elio should have waited a bit longer rather than just go balls to the wall immediately.
Also, those two artilleries were pointless, this is not an artillery map, nor does it play to Sonja's strengths. He should have gone tanks, recons, copters, and maybe a md tank.
Now this is Deejcember lolol. You guys managed to bring the love to the AWBW commentary; the very thing Reboot camp boffoed. Really enjoying the content from you both. A+ gentlemen. ✌🏾❤️👾
Speaking as a qualified Sonja Main™, I honestly think no one would notice if she were moved into T4 in fog. The only reason she's still considered T3 in fog is because she punishes noobs in lower elo matches, and this artificially inflates her win rate in the rankings. Otherwise, having what is _effectively_ -15% Firepower and a nearly worthless COP (and a SCOP that synergizes extremely poorly with her abilities) ought to kill the idea of her being a viable CO, except that the AWBW admins are very slow to change things (we only got T2 Kindle a few months ago!)
Now, if they were to implement AWDS Sonja.... Completely different ballgame... 😏
The last few videos have been pure fire; keep it up, man!
Also more NGS never hurts 😉
Cool nice to see you two make some content together.
you can see they have a good time and the jikes they make thogeter, love it
Sonia flunked her test vs an underclassman. F in the chat
I'm always rooting for Sonja, but man Elio crumbled under the pressure after the unit count went up. He wasn't keeping track of the units he had vision over and was so frivolous with his own army. I wish I could have seen him play without a time limit where he'd be able to take the time to make more informed decisions.
Elio choked building so many artillery, literally no good vehicle shots the entire game. with arty on both sides. All the vehicle attacks were wasted attacking worthless infantry too when there were Sami vehicles open. Why, just why with the artillery they don't do anything useful with the Sonja vision where more than 1 tank on the strong side could have made a huge deep strike with the recon thanks to vision.
You’ve heard of Biggie Mangs and Lil Deej, now get ready for Biggie Deej and Lil Ngs.
Sonja needs Buff, please, AWBW, remove Bad Luck from Sonja.
Either that, or give her the -1 terrain star reduction to enemies as her D2D!
many of the lower tiers could use Minor buffs. Some being like...negligible.
Hell, a couple I have thought about are just to like...bring up to the general standard of other powers or stuff like that.
Capturing a lab should give you one oozium.
7:22 I actually went, "Who is this guy?" Deejus Clark Kented me 😅
Mangus Chadicus had his fun, but Deejus will camera mog Ngs THIS time.
4:16 I'd love to see tournaments in formats other than single elimination for this reason.
That opportunistic COP from Rader Elcaroman after Elio made several small mistakes was insanely effective. To do all that in live fog game against Sonja, that's impressive. That's when the game was decided. Sami is so good when she gets the unit count advantage.
Great cast! :)
Sonja vs Sami? Is this the Advance Wars Story secret mission?
not the thumbnail quoting pela but using fu xuan's ult icon...
Deej and Mangs lets go ;D
Smol Ngs and big bro Djuice casts an advance wars catfight
lore accurate tournament
Nearly an hour, CONTENT!
I think you need to set the screen a little further to the right, than you would be roughly the same size. :)
Here’s an idea for a new series deej. You start a new account on awbw and fight lower level accounts with just one character. Get the account to like 1200s call it like Andy to the top or Sami. Even if you get tier 1 you fight with that same character no matter the matchup
no way is deej a Bengals fan. My Man!
First and also love the videos deejus favourite advance wars by web creator :)
No infantry allowed! Only mechs for caps 😂
My poor Sonja is unplayable
Up!
Damage calc over the player info on the top right insteas of over the battlefield during live games might be a better idea.
This sounds stressful to me: a low capture limit means Sonja could easily lose with one Victory March without the HQ being capped. The Sonja player will really have to defend properties!
nice. is this the hollow knight soundtrack?
oh yes. minute 34 def grim :D
Deejus العصير؟
I pretty much only play FOW so I never realized... how in the world is Sami T2 on Standard? What? Why? You're seriously telling me in Standard she can duke it out with MAX??
Victory March shenanigans.
She's hugely map dependent, most thrives on mixed base, lower income, strong mech maps
Her infantry trounce the infantry of other COs at lower tiers usually, but yeah it's map dependent. Her capture game is also so damn powerful and victory march is a messed up SCOP not just for HQ, but for flipping many cities at once spells doom for the opponent if they don't have a unit advantage.
@@DeejusProductions Is this seriously enough to put her on T2? Most ladder maps are really large anyways
Nice
saitamangs