I think it would be funny to get a battery and a cheap ebay solar panel and attach it to a shipping container and they can watch it go all the way to China.
@@jeremydickman8042 just turn off your GPS on your phone and they won't know where you're at lol.... can't find me if I turn my location off on my phone
Hi I just read a great review about you / I need your help my car was stolen 2 weeks ago with LoJack and LoJack has Been activated please help me find my car please
I've installed a bunch of these things. I always hard wire them into the car... Using the OBD2 port is an easier install, but as you point out it is easy to find and remove. Buy here - pay here places might use these, but the reason that we did is because we had a finance company that required them in order to finance people with crappy credit or a history of repo's.
This is brilliant thanks. Now I know, there is a story a guy bought a car in Queensland Australia fell behind in his payments asked a friend to hide his car in South Australia in the middle of nowhere (now this was quite a few years ago ) it is about 2000 kilometers away 1200 mile I think. The finance company found and tried to repossess it. But he had caught up with his payment but the repo order was still carried out. Not sure what happened after that! But they found it!
GPS units are usually fed off of a regular constant 12v lead. A gps/immobilizer is spliced into the obd 2 port and will 99.99999% of the time will not allow a scanner to communicate with the obd 2 port because of the interference due to the immobilizer.
Nice job on the video. Any time that you can put together an informative video, you are all right in my book Also, simply ignore ALL of the petty complaints. These are the same people who are unhappy with themselves. If they are unhappy with themselves, they are certainly not going to be happy with anything that you do!!! Thanks
So glad I watched this. I was looking for one and found the exact same thing as the second one menyioned there and was sure I found gps but for some reason entering some of the info into Google it came back as just an after market engine mapping ecu designed to optimize fuel and hp. Further looking w fcc id esp conforms its gps. Might try putting it on shipping container to China idea.
Dealerships: we need to install a GPS we can get your car quicker if you miss your payment Also dealerships: we can't repair your vehicle even if it has a failing head gasket or has no reverse gear left in your transmission
Dealership locked us in the show room after taking our keys to check our trade in. First they said we could not afford a full size pickup and tried like hell to sell us a mini-truck. They didn't know that we already had financing but they INSISTED that we must use their financing plan on the truck we did not want. We already had a truck lined up we were just comparing prices. Things took a change when I pulled a framing hammer out and said, "C'mon Mary they're trying to fuck us here". I almost had to break glass to get them to allow us to leave in our old pickup truck. Marvin Hill has a wonderful heart that's pure as gold. Marvin Hill Ford. DON'T GO THERE.
I’m a diagnostic guy and find a lot of these GPS devices that have been left on cars and cause parasitic draws. That one you had in the floorboard is one of the common ones I find that fails and causes a draw. A couple of months ago I had one that had two of those dealer type GPS trackers. Almost every single one I find is a hack job install.
parasitic draws caused by dealer trackers are common after 3 to 5 years. this is because the tracker has a battery in it like a cell phone. This allows the tracker to work without the car turned on. after a few years the battery in the dealer tracker dies and will not charge. this causes the gps unit to draw power from the car battery and will run down with the car off, I.e., a parasitic draw. and a dead battery after a couple of days.
Some of the Buy here Pay dealers use a version of the GPS that ties into your ignition switch so that they can effectively disable your key switch. It doesn't shut off your car, but you can't re-start it after they trigger it. I bought a car from a regular dealership and it had one in it and they didn't use them. The previous owner had bought the car from a buy here pay here and they never removed it. 6 months later, they activated the unit. It was a lot of fun!
@@jonathanlaque4248 The dealership I bought it from did it for free. They seemed as pissed off as I was. The dealership had clear title on the vehicle so the buy here pay here had no claim on it at all. It was a cell based unit that also clipped the lead to the starter so everything powered up, it just wouldn't turn over.
@@beckumgrym thanks for responding. I brought mine from a buy here pay here place. Got charged with 22% interest so i paid it off early. negative cable some how got really hot and terminal snap in half and disconected i replaced BATERY+ terminal + cable but would not start.even replace starter and many sensors. Long story short i discovered the tracker blinking lights and all. I took the wire the had going into the ignition and OBD. Not sure where the black and red wires that lead to the dvd player on the roof connect to? But i was wondering maybe you had any luck removing it yourself. I might put. Everything back together and try to start it.
@@jonathanlaque4248 There were 6 wires on the unit. 2 were for power and 2 were for the relay inside (disconnect) and 2 that were not hooked up. I would think that if you kill the power to it you should be able to start you vehicle. Follow the other leads and look for the wire they cut to plaice it into the system. And then remove the unit. Everything was under the dash in mine.
If the device has an IMEI or MEID number on it, it suggests that it has a cell phone "call-home" feature built into it, or it can be contacted remotely through the mobile phone network. It may or may not have GPS receiving capability.
Just found mine. Thank you. Now i can go xmas shopping without worry my car getting picked up. Fun fact,i re installed it into..shhhhh its a surprise😘😘
I wonder if there's a program/app to reformat the GPS tracker for the vehicle owners personal use. Might be good to know for families with young adult drivers, etc.
You can easily tell if you have a diagnostic link t-harness that might be a gps unit by looking to see if all the terminals are occupied. Oem connectors only have the terminals it uses.
@@Robert-zv7ry yeah never touched one of those. I was more concerned with Remote shut off and GPS tracking devices. The whole thing started when someone came to me who had PAID OFF his car and they shut his car down anyway.. so i gladly helped him remove it.
@@risunokairu I am not a Pastafarian!!!! I just don't want the government to monitor my thoughts. Although I do wear Pecorino cheese as a condiment and personal scent.
We had a Car-mart next to us at my last job. They would have us install Passtime units. GPS trackers with a starter interrupt circuit. Miss a payment, the car won't start and they come and get it. You could wire the interrupt into the ignition circuit and make a bait car that could be disabled anytime, anywhere.
@@tribulationprepper787The antenna is built into the unit. They have to be installed with the antenna side facing upwards. They only have five wires. Power, ground, ignition, and two for the starter interrupt.
@@nismo2070 Thank you for the reply. I have a 2010 F100 which has a satellite receiving antenna mounted on top of the cab. I guess this is only for use by the satellite radio.
My girl had repo guys looking for her car. So I took her tracker out and would connect it to a extra car battery I had inside my garage. Made them think I was just disconnecting the car battery cables. So she would leave for work and I turned on her gps and sure as shit you would see a tow truck come creeping by the house. 3 tow companies later, had a repo Man who had the respect to come knock on the door he was professional and very respectful to me and my girlfriend, and he was treated with the same respect back from myself and handed over the keys. I moved everything out of his way to let him have the car. He in return was nice enough to hand me back the keys to unlock the car and helped me unload my girlfriend belongings from the car. Then the thing I straight up had mad respect for the that repo Man was he said I'm not going to hookup the car in front of the house I will go a few blocks down so the neighbors don't see anymore then they already have. That is mutual respect and i understand that he was doing his job and he understood that some times things come up in person life that changes how they can pay their payments.
Contracts are SERIOUS BUSINESS and when you violate one there are UNAVOIDABLE consequences that are UNCOMFORTABLE and ANNOYING. Imagine me promising to pay you $1800 by this Tuesday. (Yesterday) IOU $1800. You ain't getting it. Wtf you gunna do about it?
@s k and @Mike Reis: repossession is a normal, acceptable process. People DO fall on unfortunate circumstances that warrants them needing to back out of an agreement. In the contract there was always TWO legitimate options: Pay and keep, don't pay and have it repossessed. There's no extra shame in choosing option 2 when its the best or only option. For most people who have loans from snap on for 10,000 dollar toolboxes (stupidly) they'd all be WISE to allow those to go straight to repossession and stem the tide of that money pit they dug rather than pay their way out. Sometimes the stupid decision isn't the allowing repossession, it was the purchasing on credit in the first place.
Great vid , Now I am buying a 2022 C8 Corvette now first I'm paying cash would they still put a tracker on the car? I have a feeling they put them on all of them ? Also I get severe headaches when around tons of wireless like siting infront of a wifi router for long So can all wireless devices be disabled, the Wifi, OnStar, and other wireless junk can it al be disabled ? Thanks
So how are the signals transmitted? I missed that. Do the dealers pay a monthly cell fee? I see adds for little 2” key fob size tracking devices. That claim 5 yr battery life. But what signal do they use? It might be worth it for car repairs.
Dealership`s systems will show up unit removed and alert them. Here in UK, I follow AutomatricsM Tracking recoveries on youtube. How would you find their hidden devices I wonder?
This is good to know people can remove them and if the owner is smart the dealer will never get it back and only had to make one payment to make this all possible, thanks so much after all it’s you against the dealer.
I bought a car from a buy her pay here. Only tuck me an hour to find mine...it also had a ignition Interlock....also had a bunch of sticker on it that said it was a crime to remove it...... Didn't stop me..... Payed off car in 3 mounths
Are dealerships allowed to add GPS tracking as long as you're making payments on a vehicle? My next door neighbor said he hears a faint beep every now and then and also gets calls to come to the dealer for a free oil change which seems sketchy.We think its a possible low battery on the GPS unit but then again neither of us are experts on this type of thing. I'm pretty sure he is still making payments but would there be any recourse if we located the GPS and tossed it in the river?
As anyone who is an automobile owner who drives an auto which has a GPS tracker, I would ask the dealer (if brought from an dealership) that I will not purchase a car that has a tracker. Make sure they sign an attest statement, in writing, that they are selling the car with no electronic GPS in it. If they sign the statement, and there is one, take it back and show them what they signed, and to remove such device. If they refuse to do so, sue then for breach of contract and merchantability of fitness, as the automobile GPS represents a security risk to you. If YOU want to be tracked (for safety reasons), you should be the one to install the GPS rather than the decision being made for you......else threaten to not buy their auto. Safer to buy older autos that have no electronics. Safer, and more reliable... .
I am a repo agent and can tell you when cars get repossessed they do not get pulled out of the cars because they sit at the tow yard from there they go to the auction and get sold so unless the next dealer installs one the old never gets taken out and even then they may never get taken out. I can also tell you that its not being tracked the finance company is not going to continue to pay for that device when they do not need to. How do i know? The GPS deices are the tracking are outsourced to another company like Gold Star or Sperion. Ive checked cars i repoed that i know went on to auction 6 months later and more. Just for shits and gigs
Question: on a 2019 Hyundai Veloster N can a tracking device be put on that kind of car? The dress sensors for being too close to a car, sensors for ABS, and sensors for lane changing how do I tell where a tracking device may be in my car wirh all these other things going on? Cause I noticed some days when I’ve open the drivers-side door the alarm goes off to the car when my key fob is out of the ignition and the door is locked, I lift up to get out the car, and the alarm goes off. Is that suppose to happen? But when the key
General Motors had or " Still Has " a " Factory Tracking System " " WITH a Cell-Phone in it " !! They call it " On-Star " ! They used it on the Local Evening News ( ABC Eyewitness New 7 ) to Disable a truck in a freeway Police chase ! But they Also used it to Disable a Friend's Silverado ! His Mechanic called Chevrolet and ask " What the Problem was " ? ! And the Lady Told him; " Oh... He hasn't brought it in for a while for a Check-Up, so we Disabled it ! My Friend is a building Contractor and all the Payments are " On Time, " if not in Advance !! ( I think he " Actually he Owns it ) ! They just wanted to get some more money out of him !! What a bunch of Great Guy's !!
@Curtis Sherwood Better not buy any modern car, GM isn't the only one. Literally every new car on the road has some form of GPS in it, don't make it sound like GM is the only one.
All new, and newish cars are fitted with a gps unit . In the uk they can be tracked using telematics . It can only be accessed by the police. Or they just use ANPR for older models. It’s not something that gets used for the average joe , but if for whatever reason you have come to their attention these, and your phone are tools they use. Even by watching this video you have been put in a certain category
May be why it took 4 hours for me to pay cash for a low mileage T-blazer at a Chrysler dealer. It may have been worth removing or not? But it did get stolen 3 years later. One of those gone in 15 seconds. Surveillance in by 6 cameras high cameras did not stop them. Drove in. Both got out of the car. The gal walked by with a box like device and he opened the door put the seat belt on and was gone. Now the question. How do you remove On Star?
Interesting topic of GPS. So if I remove it, my daily GPS on the screen and map won't direct me to find a place I am going to. My 2011 Jeep GC has a working GPS.
LoJack is a beacon transmitter and not GPS based. You can't be "tracked" by LoJack. I believe they get activated by the pager system towers then transmit a beacon which certain police cars pick up on.
I always thought that Lojack devices would be hidden in places where you would not easily find them. I am thinking of a place that is very difficult to get to for an average person.
Hell most dealership installed ones are 1. Connected to your Starter so it can also act as a killswitch similar to low Jack. Not to mention just read your purchasing contract & there is a section about vehicle tracking/disabling & it being a breach of contract if you remove it. In some states like California, New Jersey, Connecticut & New York it's a Criminal offense to remove those devices without a clean title in hand!
We make them sign a paper saying it is equipped with gps device the fact that ppl are taking them out is sad. The document they sign says it is a criminal offense to take out in Virginia and we prosecute
@@richardbyrum6862 I've beat those "Charges" simply on the basis regardless of the documents signed, the Dealership does NOT own the vechile any longer and is in fact the persons personal property, the bank may go for breach of Contract but there is ZERO laws that are enforceable in the US on the criminal side despite claims.
@@richardbyrum6862Lol that paper doesn’t mean shit… I beat that shit 4 times and laughed me ass back to the dealership to get a new car!! 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽 FUCK YALL
That is not LoJack - maybe it is a very very very old LoJack. I was a LoJack installer in 2013. What you have is not recognizable by me. The LoJack I installed, at most needed constant power and the battery was built in with its own antenna. No chance you would find it that easily. We installed LoJack in such a way that you could disassemble just about everything and not find it. We were also installing versions that needed only GROUND. 7 year battery. LoJack was making changes to make ALL LoJacks battery powered. Also, you cannot scan for LoJack, it is activated by the owner when they call in to report car stolen.
It's not PIN it's P/N as in Part Number from the manufacturer. The IMEI: means that it is using cellular as it's means to connect to a network and relay it's information the FCC ID: MEANS NOTHING it is simply the number issued to the manufacturer that indicates that the device is compliant with US radio frequency laws. NONE of those numbers will tell you anything about the device and certainly not who installed it or why. If you find one of these in your car and your car has been paid off AND you have the title disconnect it and be done with it. If your car is financed leaved it alone... somewhere in the FINE print of your sales contract is information where they told you that they "may" track the vehicle, removing the device is theft and could at the very least cause your vehicle to be repossessed.
The FCC ID can be used to look up the information that the device manufacturer filed with the FCC which includes manuals, photographs, possibly tune up and set up information. The first part of the ID is a manufacturer ID and the rest is the part of the ID that identifies the actual item.
Dealers install this devices as directed by the bank that has concerns about the loan. These are usually installed quickly and poorly due to the dealership mechanics get paid like $10 to put them in. So the mechanics just throw them in to just work but my stop working shortly. Banks put these in all the time if you just barely made the load criteria and they have concerns about a default. IF YOU DO HAVE A LOAN AND REMOVE THIS TRACKING DEVICE IN SOME CASES THEY WILL REPO THE VEHICLE EVEN IF YOU HAVE MADE YOUR PAYMENTS. THE DEALERSHIP WILL NOT REPOT THE BANK WILL
Ugh... Salesmen, saleswomen, Car Sales, Dealerships, All Suck ! I just pay cash for my 20 -30 year old trucks, rebuild it, no Problems. Life is simple and good.
What about rental cars? It's my understanding that some renters have been hit with surcharges because of speeding. The right for them to do it is buried in the contract that none of us read.
I would like to install my GPS from IMETRIK with 50 mA/12 volt to my Quad. Will it draw enough to kill my battery? and can i purchase a lithium battery backup and will this help?
How do I find a really good, trustworthy mechanic? I've asked for a word of mouth recommendation from friends and family, but anymore, it seems most people are going to chain stores like Firestone etc. I however need a really good, trustworthy, high quality private mechanic for some customized work that the other places don't do because they are retail chains. Thank you.
What I do is go to the dealership (Honda for me) and go into the shop and ask one of the mechanic/technicians who is the guy that does side work at home. There is always someone who does. I’ve always been able to find a good mechanic. Good luck.
THE MANOR MECHANIC when I find one how am I supposed to repurpose this or how is my buyer supposed to locate this device?????????? Example dude buys it puts on a car he sells they stop paying on the car how does he locate the signal this device gives?????
Well done sir, thank you for the info!! Despite privacy practices, I found your FULL identity on the worldwide interweb ... "The Mild-Mannered Many-Miled Manor-Mechanic!!" :-) Ben A.
I think it would be funny to get a battery and a cheap ebay solar panel and attach it to a shipping container and they can watch it go all the way to China.
I once had coffee in my mouth... my laptop is replacing me for a mouth for this esspecially delightful comment. good day to you blessed soul
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I'm addicted to pigger nussy 🤠
@Wyqid No wonder we have a global warming problem.
Lol 😂😂😂
It is all coming out. Savings or no savings. No one has a right to know where i'm going except me.
World of cameras,smart phones,an GPS, they already know, you're just not important, or a concern.
@@jeremydickman8042 just turn off your GPS on your phone and they won't know where you're at lol.... can't find me if I turn my location off on my phone
@@MrAuto727 If you believe so.🙄
Guess you dont have a cell phone or use a laptop ever either.
@@MarsWolf82 My sell phone and my laptop does not go with me when I travel.
now I have to park my stolen vehicles in a Faraday cage.
A deep river or large swimming pool also work. :-)
Technically, you only need a cage for the antenna
police put one on my car and they only use it just to stalk and harass me and my family, they put a gps basically to bother me shopping...
if a dealership GPS device is found in your car, remove it right away and install it at some random place like an artillery testing site
The gun range? Awesome idea😂
There is another way to find them too . You do a test for electrical draw while the ignition is off. But this is good information too !
Benjimen Franklin clever
Not if it`s got it`s own power source, as the best ones do.
Hi I just read a great review about you / I need your help my car was stolen 2 weeks ago with LoJack and LoJack has Been activated please help me find my car please
@@savonandre2026
SSDD
Benjimen Franklin what does ssdd mean
I've installed a bunch of these things. I always hard wire them into the car... Using the OBD2 port is an easier install, but as you point out it is easy to find and remove. Buy here - pay here places might use these, but the reason that we did is because we had a finance company that required them in order to finance people with crappy credit or a history of repo's.
where di you "hardwire" them into the car?
how did you hard wire them in?
Just cut the wires to the tracking device. No power no workie 😂
This is brilliant thanks. Now I know, there is a story a guy bought a car in Queensland Australia fell behind in his payments asked a friend to hide his car in South Australia in the middle of nowhere (now this was quite a few years ago ) it is about 2000 kilometers away 1200 mile I think. The finance company found and tried to repossess it. But he had caught up with his payment but the repo order was still carried out. Not sure what happened after that! But they found it!
If you buy from a used car lot that does “buy here pay here” then that’s what you get.
Crappy dinky dinky ripp off lots
GPS units are usually fed off of a regular constant 12v lead. A gps/immobilizer is spliced into the obd 2 port and will 99.99999% of the time will not allow a scanner to communicate with the obd 2 port because of the interference due to the immobilizer.
Nice job on the video. Any time that you can put together an informative video, you are all right in my book Also, simply ignore ALL of the petty complaints. These are the same people who are unhappy with themselves. If they are unhappy with themselves, they are certainly not going to be happy with anything that you do!!! Thanks
Put 12v to it and magnet mount it in a city bus, have some fun with whoever put it there.
How if it's a dealer nobody's watching unless youmiss a payment & are the reason for these that 1 freak story is sad but it's 1 case.
hahahahahahahaha...that's funny!
Attach it to a freight train.
So glad I watched this. I was looking for one and found the exact same thing as the second one menyioned there and was sure I found gps but for some reason entering some of the info into Google it came back as just an after market engine mapping ecu designed to optimize fuel and hp. Further looking w fcc id esp conforms its gps. Might try putting it on shipping container to China idea.
Just subbed man keep it up love the content
Dealerships: we need to install a GPS we can get your car quicker if you miss your payment
Also dealerships: we can't repair your vehicle even if it has a failing head gasket or has no reverse gear left in your transmission
Dealership locked us in the show room after taking our keys to check our trade in. First they said we could not afford a full size pickup and tried like hell to sell us a mini-truck. They didn't know that we already had financing but they INSISTED that we must use their financing plan on the truck we did not want. We already had a truck lined up we were just comparing prices. Things took a change when I pulled a framing hammer out and said, "C'mon Mary they're trying to fuck us here". I almost had to break glass to get them to allow us to leave in our old pickup truck.
Marvin Hill has a wonderful heart that's pure as gold. Marvin Hill Ford. DON'T GO THERE.
@@mikeries8549 BS
FACTS I just spent almost $700 on my piece of shit and they still want to fucking payment and took the GPS back up that they unhooked ha nope 👋🏼
I’m a diagnostic guy and find a lot of these GPS devices that have been left on cars and cause parasitic draws. That one you had in the floorboard is one of the common ones I find that fails and causes a draw. A couple of months ago I had one that had two of those dealer type GPS trackers. Almost every single one I find is a hack job install.
They are probably installed last minute, when they realize how bad a customers credit is.
parasitic draws caused by dealer trackers are common after 3 to 5 years.
this is because the tracker has a battery in it like a cell phone. This allows the tracker to work without the car turned on.
after a few years the battery in the dealer tracker dies and will not charge. this causes the gps unit to draw power from the car battery and will run down with the car off, I.e., a parasitic draw. and a dead battery after a couple of days.
I had to remove a add on remote start because of that. Then repair the wiring.
Some of the Buy here Pay dealers use a version of the GPS that ties into your ignition switch so that they can effectively disable your key switch. It doesn't shut off your car, but you can't re-start it after they trigger it. I bought a car from a regular dealership and it had one in it and they didn't use them. The previous owner had bought the car from a buy here pay here and they never removed it. 6 months later, they activated the unit. It was a lot of fun!
Who took it off.
@@jonathanlaque4248 The dealership I bought it from did it for free. They seemed as pissed off as I was. The dealership had clear title on the vehicle so the buy here pay here had no claim on it at all. It was a cell based unit that also clipped the lead to the starter so everything powered up, it just wouldn't turn over.
@@beckumgrym thanks for responding. I brought mine from a buy here pay here place. Got charged with 22% interest so i paid it off early. negative cable some how got really hot and terminal snap in half and disconected i replaced BATERY+ terminal + cable but would not start.even replace starter and many sensors. Long story short i discovered the tracker blinking lights and all. I took the wire the had going into the ignition and OBD. Not sure where the black and red wires that lead to the dvd player on the roof connect to? But i was wondering maybe you had any luck removing it yourself. I might put. Everything back together and try to start it.
@@beckumgrym i went a little mad and even removed paneling to the lift gate
@@jonathanlaque4248 There were 6 wires on the unit. 2 were for power and 2 were for the relay inside (disconnect) and 2 that were not hooked up. I would think that if you kill the power to it you should be able to start you vehicle. Follow the other leads and look for the wire they cut to plaice it into the system. And then remove the unit. Everything was under the dash in mine.
If the device has an IMEI or MEID number on it, it suggests that it has a cell phone "call-home" feature built into it, or it can be contacted remotely through the mobile phone network. It may or may not have GPS receiving capability.
Just found mine. Thank you. Now i can go xmas shopping without worry my car getting picked up. Fun fact,i re installed it into..shhhhh its a surprise😘😘
Update please
a target buggy 😂
I wonder if there's a program/app to reformat the GPS tracker for the vehicle owners personal use. Might be good to know for families with young adult drivers, etc.
Gosh! I'm gonna go look in my car right now! Thanks for the heads up
You can easily tell if you have a diagnostic link t-harness that might be a gps unit by looking to see if all the terminals are occupied. Oem connectors only have the terminals it uses.
Um , no. They have a obd splitter.
RTSELLS yes I get that. I stated a way to spot them.
i use to make a TON of money removing these and engine disable devices for people that make the mistake of buying from Buy here and pay here car lots.
Just don't remove the breathalyzer Interlock...
@@Robert-zv7ry yeah never touched one of those. I was more concerned with Remote shut off and GPS tracking devices.
The whole thing started when someone came to me who had PAID OFF his car and they shut his car down anyway.. so i gladly helped him remove it.
Can I have it removed my car is paid off but they never removed it. Do I contact them ?
@@msjovan4994 If your car is paid off , they have no rights to it.
You can remove it.
They usually ask for them back once you contact is up.
@@carlspackler91 they should pay for removal.
I drive with an aluminum colander on my head. Now i'm invisible.
Real cool, did someone say it's next years fashion statement?
@@theodoreroberts3407 The tiger print chin strap is a hit, though
@@bookeens I'll go down to Acme and get one.
Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster
@@risunokairu I am not a Pastafarian!!!! I just don't want the government to monitor my thoughts. Although I do wear Pecorino cheese as a condiment and personal scent.
I’d first want to know who they belong to. Next, I’d want to know why.
Peter Myers ...I would agree !
Once you know who, you'll definitely know why.
I just Drive to the Same Place Over and Over and Go Nowhere .
Thanks, this is a big help!
We had a Car-mart next to us at my last job. They would have us install Passtime units. GPS trackers with a starter interrupt circuit. Miss a payment, the car won't start and they come and get it. You could wire the interrupt into the ignition circuit and make a bait car that could be disabled anytime, anywhere.
Wouldn't simply disconnecting the roof mount satellite antenna accomplish the same thing?
@@tribulationprepper787The antenna is built into the unit. They have to be installed with the antenna side facing upwards. They only have five wires. Power, ground, ignition, and two for the starter interrupt.
@@nismo2070 Thank you for the reply. I have a 2010 F100 which has a satellite receiving antenna mounted on top of the cab. I guess this is only for use by the satellite radio.
Alot of vehicles use plug and play remote starters that use obd2 plug now.
I had the same exact one in my van. I found it because the device's connector wouldn't snap into the hole, so it was up inside the panel.
Great video I look at this way as long as you can get your point it's a great video
My girl had repo guys looking for her car. So I took her tracker out and would connect it to a extra car battery I had inside my garage. Made them think I was just disconnecting the car battery cables. So she would leave for work and I turned on her gps and sure as shit you would see a tow truck come creeping by the house. 3 tow companies later, had a repo Man who had the respect to come knock on the door he was professional and very respectful to me and my girlfriend, and he was treated with the same respect back from myself and handed over the keys. I moved everything out of his way to let him have the car. He in return was nice enough to hand me back the keys to unlock the car and helped me unload my girlfriend belongings from the car. Then the thing I straight up had mad respect for the that repo Man was he said I'm not going to hookup the car in front of the house I will go a few blocks down so the neighbors don't see anymore then they already have. That is mutual respect and i understand that he was doing his job and he understood that some times things come up in person life that changes how they can pay their payments.
If only everyone acted in this manner the world might start to change for the better....
It is true that you have to give respect to get respect.
@@unclest1nky or you know, people could just pay their bills.
Contracts are SERIOUS BUSINESS and when you violate one there are UNAVOIDABLE consequences that are UNCOMFORTABLE and ANNOYING.
Imagine me promising to pay you $1800 by this Tuesday. (Yesterday) IOU $1800. You ain't getting it. Wtf you gunna do about it?
@s k and @Mike Reis: repossession is a normal, acceptable process. People DO fall on unfortunate circumstances that warrants them needing to back out of an agreement. In the contract there was always TWO legitimate options: Pay and keep, don't pay and have it repossessed. There's no extra shame in choosing option 2 when its the best or only option. For most people who have loans from snap on for 10,000 dollar toolboxes (stupidly) they'd all be WISE to allow those to go straight to repossession and stem the tide of that money pit they dug rather than pay their way out. Sometimes the stupid decision isn't the allowing repossession, it was the purchasing on credit in the first place.
Great vid , Now I am buying a 2022 C8 Corvette now first I'm paying cash would they still put a tracker on the car? I have a feeling they put them on all of them ? Also I get severe headaches when around tons of wireless like siting infront of a wifi router for long
So can all wireless devices be disabled, the Wifi, OnStar, and other wireless junk can it al be disabled ?
Thanks
Or rent a car, install the tracker on the rental, and let the dealer chase that around.
You idiot that won't work because we put GPS trackers and rent-a-cars on ourselves
Tracking a 94 civic? Let them have it
No don't let them have it . You'll still have to pay for it and it will cost twice as much.
@@benjimenfranklin7650 LMAO
@@robertpeoples3953
It's The truth. That car will be on your credit history and you will pay twice for it.
LoJacks do not require reactivation. They are in there and good for the life of the vehicle. FYI.
Plus’s it looks like you put a bicycle tire on your steering wheel cover.lol
I thought that tread patternlooked familiar irc tyre i believe
So how are the signals transmitted? I missed that. Do the dealers pay a monthly cell fee? I see adds for little 2” key fob size tracking devices. That claim 5 yr battery life. But what signal do they use? It might be worth it for car repairs.
how do they prevent the battery from getting drained with those GPS trackers? I don't see any voltage limit cutoff switch in either examples.
Dealership`s systems will show up unit removed and alert them.
Here in UK, I follow AutomatricsM Tracking recoveries on youtube.
How would you find their hidden devices I wonder?
I WANT THAT PAC MAN STEERING WHEEL COVER!!!!!
Well, he`s removed one tracking device and you`ve seen where the other is....you know what to do.
This is good to know people can remove them and if the owner is smart the dealer will never get it back and only had to make one payment to make this all possible, thanks so much after all it’s you against the dealer.
I'm pretty sure making one payment, removing the tracker, and not paying anymore is called stealing.
I bought a car from a buy her pay here. Only tuck me an hour to find mine...it also had a ignition Interlock....also had a bunch of sticker on it that said it was a crime to remove it...... Didn't stop me..... Payed off car in 3 mounths
Paid *
Where was it?
ive removed a ton of those that were causing drive ability problems
Yes sir I just spent another $800 on my stupid truck because of the interlock device and the GPS nothing but fuckery
Thank you!! Your awesome
@3:50 That Second GPS unit is for fleet tracking.
The first one is a LoJack module.
nice video for quarantine 2020 to 2022
Does your wireless locks work now? I think you removed a repaired/replaced part in effort to get the wireless entry working again... look it up.
Are dealerships allowed to add GPS tracking as long as you're making payments on a vehicle? My next door neighbor said he hears a faint beep every now and then and also gets calls to come to the dealer for a free oil change which seems sketchy.We think its a possible low battery on the GPS unit but then again neither of us are experts on this type of thing. I'm pretty sure he is still making payments but would there be any recourse if we located the GPS and tossed it in the river?
did you find out if you take it it will they know
As anyone who is an automobile owner who drives an auto which has a GPS tracker, I would ask the dealer (if brought from an dealership) that I will not purchase a car that has a tracker. Make sure they sign an attest statement, in writing, that they are selling the car with no electronic GPS in it. If they sign the statement, and there is one, take it back and show them what they signed, and to remove such device. If they refuse to do so, sue then for breach of contract and merchantability of fitness, as the automobile GPS represents a security risk to you. If YOU want to be tracked (for safety reasons), you should be the one to install the GPS rather than the decision being made for you......else threaten to not buy their auto. Safer to buy older autos that have no electronics. Safer, and more reliable... .
I am a repo agent and can tell you when cars get repossessed they do not get pulled out of the cars because they sit at the tow yard from there they go to the auction and get sold so unless the next dealer installs one the old never gets taken out and even then they may never get taken out. I can also tell you that its not being tracked the finance company is not going to continue to pay for that device when they do not need to. How do i know? The GPS deices are the tracking are outsourced to another company like Gold Star or Sperion. Ive checked cars i repoed that i know went on to auction 6 months later and more. Just for shits and gigs
There is an easy way to detect low jack by using a radio that can go to 173 mhz.
Tell me more!
People forget to mention that if the car is financed, many times you must agree to a tracker installation.
Thanks for the information
what years of cars will you find these on ??
Cordless screwdriver or drill ?
I have a tracker on my motorcycle...had one stolen and ever since i've always had a tracker onboard.
Question: on a 2019 Hyundai Veloster N can a tracking device be put on that kind of car? The dress sensors for being too close to a car, sensors for ABS, and sensors for lane changing how do I tell where a tracking device may be in my car wirh all these other things going on? Cause I noticed some days when I’ve open the drivers-side door the alarm goes off to the car when my key fob is out of the ignition and the door is locked, I lift up to get out the car, and the alarm goes off.
Is that suppose to happen?
But when the key
General Motors had or " Still Has " a " Factory Tracking System " " WITH a Cell-Phone in it " !! They call it " On-Star " !
They used it on the Local Evening News ( ABC Eyewitness New 7 ) to Disable a truck in a freeway Police chase ! But they Also used it to Disable a
Friend's Silverado ! His Mechanic called Chevrolet and ask " What the Problem was " ? ! And the Lady Told him; " Oh... He hasn't brought it in for
a while for a Check-Up, so we Disabled it ! My Friend is a building Contractor and all the Payments are " On Time, " if not in Advance !!
( I think he " Actually he Owns it ) !
They just wanted to get some more money out of him !! What a bunch of Great Guy's !!
@Curtis Sherwood Better not buy any modern car, GM isn't the only one. Literally every new car on the road has some form of GPS in it, don't make it sound like GM is the only one.
I don’t know if you have noticed, but I also found a bicycle tire on your steering wheel also 🤔.
All new, and newish cars are fitted with a gps unit . In the uk they can be tracked using telematics . It can only be accessed by the police. Or they just use ANPR for older models. It’s not something that gets used for the average joe , but if for whatever reason you have come to their attention these, and your phone are tools they use. Even by watching this video you have been put in a certain category
You should check out TED Talks "Surveillance Capitalism"
They use these on rental cars too?
May be why it took 4 hours for me to pay cash for a low mileage T-blazer at a Chrysler dealer. It may have been worth removing or not?
But it did get stolen 3 years later. One of those gone in 15 seconds. Surveillance in by 6 cameras high cameras did not stop them.
Drove in. Both got out of the car. The gal walked by with a box like device and he opened the door put the seat belt on and was gone.
Now the question. How do you remove On Star?
Interesting topic of GPS. So if I remove it, my daily GPS on the screen and map won't direct me to find a place I am going to. My 2011 Jeep GC has a working GPS.
If from dealership installation. Maybe a low jack insurance requirement for car theft?
LoJack is a beacon transmitter and not GPS based. You can't be "tracked" by LoJack. I believe they get activated by the pager system towers then transmit a beacon which certain police cars pick up on.
Likely past company car that never uninstalled the trackers
It seems most of them use the OBD2 to work. I have an aftermarket keyless entry/ wireless starting system that draws down my battery
I always thought that Lojack devices would be hidden in places where you would not easily find them. I am thinking of a place that is very difficult to get to for an average person.
The average person doesn't remove the radio from the dashboard.
The average person who can't afford their car is too stupid to youtube how to videos on how to remove gps tracking devices.
Getting ready purchase new stereo for car
Will get them to check for anything like this.
FIY: P/N is "Part Number"
Hell most dealership installed ones are 1. Connected to your Starter so it can also act as a killswitch similar to low Jack. Not to mention just read your purchasing contract & there is a section about vehicle tracking/disabling & it being a breach of contract if you remove it. In some states like California, New Jersey, Connecticut & New York it's a Criminal offense to remove those devices without a clean title in hand!
We make them sign a paper saying it is equipped with gps device the fact that ppl are taking them out is sad. The document they sign says it is a criminal offense to take out in Virginia and we prosecute
@@richardbyrum6862 I've beat those "Charges" simply on the basis regardless of the documents signed, the Dealership does NOT own the vechile any longer and is in fact the persons personal property, the bank may go for breach of Contract but there is ZERO laws that are enforceable in the US on the criminal side despite claims.
@@richardbyrum6862Lol that paper doesn’t mean shit… I beat that shit 4 times and laughed me ass back to the dealership to get a new car!! 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽 FUCK YALL
disabled no shoe wearing Arkansas girl here! oopsy😎
That is not LoJack - maybe it is a very very very old LoJack. I was a LoJack installer in 2013. What you have is not recognizable by me. The LoJack I installed, at most needed constant power and the battery was built in with its own antenna. No chance you would find it that easily. We installed LoJack in such a way that you could disassemble just about everything and not find it. We were also installing versions that needed only GROUND. 7 year battery. LoJack was making changes to make ALL LoJacks battery powered. Also, you cannot scan for LoJack, it is activated by the owner when they call in to report car stolen.
It's not PIN it's P/N as in Part Number from the manufacturer. The IMEI: means that it is using cellular as it's means to connect to a network and relay it's information the FCC ID: MEANS NOTHING it is simply the number issued to the manufacturer that indicates that the device is compliant with US radio frequency laws. NONE of those numbers will tell you anything about the device and certainly not who installed it or why. If you find one of these in your car and your car has been paid off AND you have the title disconnect it and be done with it. If your car is financed leaved it alone... somewhere in the FINE print of your sales contract is information where they told you that they "may" track the vehicle, removing the device is theft and could at the very least cause your vehicle to be repossessed.
The FCC ID can be used to look up the information that the device manufacturer filed with the FCC which includes manuals, photographs, possibly tune up and set up information. The first part of the ID is a manufacturer ID and the rest is the part of the ID that identifies the actual item.
@@waterbuck YES, but it does NOT tell you why it's in your vehicle or why it was placed there which is the point of his video.
PIN "product identification number" is a thing.
Sorry but I would wank that thing out and throw it at somebody.
Dealers install this devices as directed by the bank that has concerns about the loan. These are usually installed quickly and poorly due to the dealership mechanics get paid like $10 to put them in. So the mechanics just throw them in to just work but my stop working shortly. Banks put these in all the time if you just barely made the load criteria and they have concerns about a default. IF YOU DO HAVE A LOAN AND REMOVE THIS TRACKING DEVICE IN SOME CASES THEY WILL REPO THE VEHICLE EVEN IF YOU HAVE MADE YOUR PAYMENTS. THE DEALERSHIP WILL NOT REPOT THE BANK WILL
You can find one with a GPS frequency scanner.
Thank so much!
People who rent to own or get dealer financing will get a locator put on their Car, some banks and Title loan places are also doing it.
Thats a pro start
Ugh... Salesmen, saleswomen, Car Sales, Dealerships, All Suck ! I just pay cash for my 20 -30 year old trucks, rebuild it, no Problems. Life is simple and good.
Same. got a 86 squarebody chevy. About as new as it gets from here on out.
Check under the hood. They install them under the hood now.
Thanks so much, I'll have to check it out 👍🏻 but nothing lowers my insurance payment in Kansas, I'm surrounded by thieves 😔
This area has 'uckin gone down the drain..with car nerds stealing cars,
I bet these cause problems as they get old since every wire is spliced for the aux obd.
What about rental cars? It's my understanding that some renters have been hit with surcharges because of speeding. The right for them to do it is buried in the contract that none of us read.
Had no idea man.
Thats nice I could just unplug it. Mines hard wired in and I have to figure out how to unhook it.
Just pulled mine out today... good thing I payed cash from a dude.
I would like to install my GPS from IMETRIK with 50 mA/12 volt to my Quad. Will it draw enough to kill my battery? and can i purchase a lithium battery backup and will this help?
6:14 the dealers do not pay much for these installs. Maybe $30. Don't expect a clean install.
I used to work for an ignition interlock company, most people have these and aren't even aware they exist
@@themanormechanic4977 what do you do now?
How do I find a really good, trustworthy mechanic? I've asked for a word of mouth recommendation from friends and family, but anymore, it seems most people are going to chain stores like Firestone etc. I however need a really good, trustworthy, high quality private mechanic for some customized work that the other places don't do because they are retail chains. Thank you.
Use a vpn for internet privacy, brouse and go and ask on 4chan
Have a child and force them to become an auto mechanic.
What I do is go to the dealership (Honda for me) and go into the shop and ask one of the mechanic/technicians who is the guy that does side work at home. There is always someone who does. I’ve always been able to find a good mechanic. Good luck.
The tracking device is by gokdstar and also it is called the talon yes it is (The Talon)
I have had such bad luck getting someone to remove it, I will need to organise a mechanic to teach me how to investigate the vehicle.
Thanks
THE MANOR MECHANIC
when I find one how am I supposed to repurpose this or how is my buyer supposed to locate this device??????????
Example dude buys it puts on a car he sells they stop paying on the car how does he locate the signal this device gives?????
Well done sir, thank you for the info!!
Despite privacy practices, I found your FULL identity on the worldwide interweb ...
"The Mild-Mannered Many-Miled Manor-Mechanic!!"
:-)
Ben A.
Ob2 fuses can blow with that on it gm dealerships hate it
hey, at least your phone shoots in landscape
Wouldn't simply disconnecting the roof mount satellite antenna accomplish the same thing?
The antenna is generally built in and unseen
Just a heads up P/N isnt PIN its Part Number.
The GPS is for vehicle tracking and recovery