MS Surface Book 2 vs. Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Yoga 3rd Gen Comparison Smackdown
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ค. 2024
- Lisa Gade compares the Microsoft Surface Book 2 and Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Yoga 3rd gen (2018 model). Both are high end convertible 2-in-1 Windows laptops with pen support, excellent keyboards and stunning display options. Lisa talks about both the 13.5” and 15” Surface Book 2 in her comparison with the 14” ThinkPad X1 Yoga.
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I dropped my SB2 twice during a dj gig on hard tile floor. Not a dent and still works with no hiccups.
*loving* the glam footage of the X1 yoga
Thanks Lisa for your awesome reviews as always :)
I have the 1st gen thinkpad yoga and loved it the whole time I used it. I was going to get the 3rd gen when it came out but then the SB2 was announced and I couldnt resist.
Thanks a lot for this smackdown. Awesome work!
Perfect as usual. Thank you Lisa.
Lisa you are awesome! Keep it up :D
I love you. Whenever I see your videos, I miss my mom. She lives far away in another country.
Very nicely done as always Lisa. I'm so used to 3x2 aspect screens now that I don't think I could go back to 16x9. MS has me locked in until other OEM's pick up that option.
My only beef is how hard it is to fix the surface book. Thinking long term ownership I think the Lenovo is a better option.
yes but it's also worth considering that people who get the yoga/surface book tend to do a bit more than just productivity work on basic applications like an IDE or Word. A lot of them are likely going to be doing things related to graphic designs and maybe some editing, which means they do have to keep up with the specs as opposed to keeping a machine for a decade.
i have the sb 2, the thing is good for 3 years and thats at its best, but once that new sb 3 comes out theyre, the efficiency is gonna take dive
Exactly, when you buy a device like this you need protection warranty, inside the surface book, most of the parts are glued together which is a huge issue if you want to open the device, Imagine I can't even clean the fans! I live in a really dusty area.
Thanks
@Cajunomics its going to take a dive
Lisa, it would be awesome if you can do a long-term (6 month) review of the SB2. It'd be interesting to see how it's holding up after 6+ months.
Agreed
Hey Lisa, loved the comparison. Great video as usual. Thank you very much. I do prefer the looks and built of the Yoga, but I guess for my work needs the SB2 15 inch will be the choice. I guess it comes down to whether or not I can MS support in Hong Kong.
Great work. Thank you!
Excellent and fair comparison. Thank you, Lisa.
Thank you for this!!! :-)
Always great reviews.
Until now I am very happy with my Surface Book 2 15inch.
Very good reviews... I have stopped watching any other reviews. Keep it up!!!
Thanks! That's what I wanted to hear! Excellent comparison! Thanks also for the benchmarks even if you haven't commented on too much. I wish HP sent you BOB spectre 360 15" 2018 and HP Zbook x2 for a more complete comparison of what I am considering for my work. And I hope these lasts will come out soon in Italy as well for a price comparison here which will definetly play a big part as well. I think my best would be ZBook x2 G4 with Intel® Core™ i7-8650U processor (1.9 GHz, up to 4.2 GHz with Turbo Boost, 8 MB Cache, 4 core) + NVIDIA® Quadro® M620 2 GB dedicated GDDR5 (2WX07AV) 14" diagonal FHD UHD DreamColor B-LED UWVA for Webcam + IR slim Touchscreen (3840x2160) and 32 GB (2x16 GB) DDR4 2133. Do you agree? But what will be the price? Will it be worthwhile?
Damn Lisa, that drawing with the monster behind the curtain looks amazing!
OMG erica
One thing to also mention in regards to the screens is that the Surface Book 15" inch screen has PWM and suffers from image retention. If you don't know what those things are then you'll probably be fine. :) Thanks for the great comparison, Lisa.
I'd have to go with the Surface Book 2. I like the detachable screen.
Seems like for Photographers it's gotta be the thinkpad for its colour accuracy.
I'm also thinking that an External GPU would be a good addition with this gear
Thank you very much for your time and effort in making these videos. So, for photographers doing work for non-web use and who are using Capture One, ACDSee and PS, the Yoga wins due to the 100% Adobe RGB colour.
To me the problem with the surface book is the fact that when you detach the tablet part you know longer have the use of the sd card and also the lack of battery life in the tablet.
Lisa, do you know when the X1 Tablet (3rd gen) will be available ?
The Thinkpad X1 yoga now has the LTE option available on their site but it’s not compatible with the HDR display for some reason 😭. Hopefully they offer it together soon! I’d buy it in a heartbeat!
The SB is my dream laptop apart from the following:
1) Too many people complaining about issues after first year of ownership.
2) Repairability.
3) Lack of Thunderbolt.
4) Price.
If only one of the mainstream OEMs pickup the 3:2 hi res display. I guess I'll keep waiting.
A year and a half ago I got the first gen SB i7 dGPU, 16GB RAM and 512GB of SSD.... I did have a couple of big issues, however microsoft solved them over the phone...
I also got an AC Charger replacement because my original wasn't charging my phone properly (over the USB port)... and the replacement was of higher wattage (102W over 65W)
Windows still have some issues, but to be honest, this has been the best machine I have had... and I would get the new SB2 if I got a chance...
The lack of thunderbolt is sad, but it is definitely not dealbreaker for me... the SB2 delivers a lot and the port is not utilized by the vast majority of people....
Lisa, if I have understood GPU's limit well, ThinkPad X1 Yoga for Photoshop and 2D CAD is good enough, for occasional video editing is enough as well but if I want to do 4k video editing or 3D CAD on the move I need SB2 or something bigger: is that correct?
Another great smack down! Greetings from Portugal Lisa
Love, love my Surface Book 2 15!
Terry Tigner how is gaming? Screen tearing or any such issues?
Haider Khan I’m not a big gamer anymore, but the ones I tried ran surprisingly well. No issues at all!
Which ones did you try? And settings and fps please? Sorry if im being overbearing
Haider Khan
TETRIS works just fine.
hey Terry, whats your opinion of surface book 2 one year later from the purchase???
I couldn't decide what I wanted so I bought a 2015 MacBook Pro, Thinkpad P71 Workstation, and iPad Pro. They're all amazing devices. I must admit the Surface Book looked tempting.
OrganicFarmer Thinkpad p71, also wait until p72 comes out if you can. It's very likely that lenovo will bring back the centre keyboard without numpad.
Wow! Which one do you use at home at a desktop vs which one do you use out of the home? I need to buy both. Thanks for your help
You forgot to mention about difference in active pen. I really enjoy and like how X1 Yoga had where you can store pen within the laptop unit without sticking out and also recharges the pen when stored. Also recharging rate is amazing, 15 seconds charging for 100 minutes use, I heard. And X1 Yoga's think shutter is a plus for me too. Although you can't have Windows hello facial recognition with Think shutter, I like how it keeps private when you shut the camera, which also mute micro phone at same time. Lenovo absolutely has better hardware security and perfect for business people.
Love your channel!
I have a question...where can I buy the Lenovo ThinkPad X1 yoga 3rd Gen?
But with the English letters on the upper left side instead of in the middle?
Hi I am looking at the Lenovo x380 or x280 and wondered what you thought of them?
I wish Lenovo made 3:2 screen Thinkpad
Eeew
that's disgusting
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It's great for anything, except maybe watching 16:9 content...
@@user-bl4oq7fd8d this, if you are spending that much on a laptop i’m sure you will do much more other than just media consumption so it’s fine I prefer 3:2
You mentioned the limitations of doing 3d work on the X1 Yoga. But can I use the X1 Yoga working with Davinci Resolve on 4K projects? Or how well would you define doing that.
I like the lenovo design and ruggedness.
Awesome channel
I've been waiting for this review for a long time, thanks Lisa!
Seems like the Surface would suit the Video editor, 3D (which also renders out to video) , creative types, while the Lenovo has awesome keyboard that's good for long periods of use, which is more ideal for programmers with their webservers, databases etc..
Hi Lisa, love your videos. I don't usually comment but I watch all of them. I am a long time surface user and just bought a surface book 2 15" and it got my friend interested in buying a new computer but she is torn between the surface pro and the Lenovo x1 tablet 2018... any chance you could compare them?
Know I know why people love your channel
hi Lisa - do you think there is enough interest in a smackdown between the Surface Book 2 15 and the Yoga 720 15".I think it would be an interesting comparison.
Hi Lisa, so I been doing some research and watching your videos and I still have a big doubt between 3 laptops. One would you choose between HP Spectre 13, Yoga 920 and Surface Pro? I am looking for a fast light laptop basically and 8 ram and i5. Is 8th gen really much faster? But do Spectre and Yoga get really hot and noisy? What do you guys think as well?... The other option is the surface book 2 8 ram 128gb... but its a little big heavier. Thanks!
For me convertibles with 16:9 screen don't make sense... But I would prefer a convertible over a top-heavy detachable... When is a manufacturer making a decent 3:2 convertible?
Love your reviews.
Was debating to get the x1 extreme with monitors or just get the x1 yoga + razer core for the extra graphics when needed. Thoughts? the thought was basically saving the difference in $ been the extreme and yoga and get a dedicated plug in egpu...
GPUs develop lot faster than CPUs and external GPU give easier upgrading in that.
Sure you can buy external GPU for any laptop with proper port for it, but you can't sell that old internal GPU, unlike old external GPU.
I'm waiting for the 3rd or 4th gen of the surface book for it to work out pretty much all issues then I'll buy one.
Hi Lisa, with so many options out there & with minute by minute new models being released - how do you advise someone who has a difficult time deciding on a new laptop when a new model is just around the corner?
Thanks
Have you tried using Linux on the Lenovo? I like to use LXDE with GIMP and Xournal. Does Linux work good together with the Pen?
Can you upgrade the graphics card on the X1 Carbon if you're looking to do video editing?
Hi Lisa, big fun of your videos. Can you do a review on the 2018 model of HP spectre x360 15''?
which would be preferable for video editing, school, and art-design and why? I was looking into a good 2 in 1 ultra book and from the videos I found, the Lenovo fit my needs. however, I didn't see this comparison video prior to my purchase.
Please review the Thinkpad Yoga L380 and if you can, compare it to the X380 Yoga and X1 Yoga.
Lisa, please make a review of one of Max q 1050 ti laptops! that would be great to see.
Love it
Lisa, could you please review the "Acer Nitro 5 Spin" with particular emphasis on pen and touch input.
I’ve been looking into the best types of computers or best 2 in 1s for University students. Which do you think would provide the best performance for medical students?
Enjoy your reviews I hope you'll do a Digital Storm Harker 17 laptop soon.
They are both great laptop but there’s just something about the thinkpad that makes it a true awesome laptop don’t know just love it .
Hi Lisa thanx for you're informative review. I'm a youtuber newbie and plan to create video content mostly interviews, talks and slides with simple "animation". Do I need these type of laptops above? Or are other laptops at a lower that meets or suffices my requirements? Any suggestions.. thank you
i love the SB2
I still have performance issues on my surfacebook2 when on desktop... Like while stretching windows...
And every time it goes to sleep, all programs become closed...
How would you compare the X1 Yoga 3rd gen with the HP Spectre x360 15 (i7 8th gen, 8550u)? The HP has quite a few ports including hdmi 2.0 and should be able to drive 2 external 4k displays at 60Hz
While the surface is cooler, I think that the yoga makes more sense. No dock to keep track of, easier conversion to tablet, and easier to take apart. Also an internal pen. While that gpu is awesome, fatter thinkpad 2in1s like that 14 incher had dgpus as well.
Any chance to see the lenovo thinkpad Yoga L380? it seems to be a good laptop + is a thinkpad + is a yoga with garaged pen!
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SB: gaming, full sized SD card slot, rear cam, better track pad, battery (best = lenovo x 1.5)
LY: accecibility, weight, durability, free-pen, doc-compatibility, fingerprint scanner, built in LTE modum hotspot (optional)
I just bought a yoga for $500. I can’t wait to get it
How does the sound compare from the speakers please?
What laptop would you recommend for someone who is a graphic design major?
Hey lisa can you do a review of the powerspec 1710 from micro center?
Can you use the UHS-II SDXC card reader to install programs , like a 2nd drive
Can you please do a review on ergonomic keyboards - Thanks !!
There is another good option, Lenovo Yoga 920. A beautiful 13.9 inch laptop..
Please can you do a video on the upcoming max-Q 2018 Laptops coming in a few months
I desire the SB2 but the Yoga would be more than good enough for me - esp with the TB3 ports. Then again, except for maybe the HDR screen, there are a host of other 14inch and light 15inch thinkpads with quad core ultra i7s that can take more than 16GB which'd be better still.
If my Sb 2 had thunderbolt 3 in it, it would literally be perfect. Still tho, the gtx1060 works well!
Hey Lisa, something off-topic, but how do you think the Surface Pen is compared to the HP pen that come with the Spectre x360? Does the Surface Pen work with it (also the (double-)click to launch programs), and would you say its worth to get it for the Spectre x360? :)
I'd get the Wacom Bamboo Ink for the Spectre x360. The Surface Pen will work though.
My Hero 5 uses microSD and I agree that adapters make it very easy to just use microSD.
The surface with the buildquality, full sice hdmi ect and security options from lenovo PLEASE
Lisa, I've just had to rejoin your channel. Somehow I've been taken from you subscriber list. I have the same issue on my own channel!
Great smackdown! I think I am leaning towards the ThinkPad due to LTE and the great trackpoint nub. However, I just checked Lenovo website and I don't see LTE option? :(
Info Planet Does anyone know if it is possible to add the card that enables LTE after the fact (since it's not available currently in the Lenovo configuration options)? And if so, what is correct Part/Model # to order to add that capability?
Just bought the razer blade...I probably shouldn't be watching laptop reviews haha
thats still a great laptop imo
I bought both. One is for gaming and another is for school.
mine broke after 9 months and they wouldn’t rma... ouch. hope yours is much better
Dell xps 15 vs surface book 2 please! :D
I was looking forward to this comparison.
Lisa, do you think Apple will make 2-in-1's in the future?
elbitapmoC they may have to kill the macbook air, turn the ipad pro into a truer hybrid, which seems the way they're headed
I'd be pleased and shocked if they do.
elbitapmoC highly doubtful because they will have to either kill the iPads or the MacBooks.
if steve jobs was still here that would of happened two years ago
+blackice I don't think so, Steve do not like stylus. Plus in doing so would make Apple seem like following the crowd, which they should.
Lisa, how do you think about HDR laptops? Do you think it's cool to have OLED display on laptops that can do HDR?
Allan Sh id be worried about burn in with OLED, even with a warranty
hi which microphone do you use please?
Could You review the thinkpad L480
I would buy the surface book 2 if it came in black. I never understood why companies don't include a black color option for their products, it makes no sense consider the amount of customers they would gain. Another thing I realized is, why aren't there any good long digitizer pen nibs? As an artist when I am doing any kind of sketching work I hold my pencil differently than as I would for writing. I hold it loosely and at the end of the pen, I so far have not seen a single company incorporate the ability to track strokes made that way.
and a review on thinkpad t480!? :)
Smack down of 2018 LG Gram and XPS 13??
Pls do a review on P52s
I never realized GTX 1060 is considered mid tier graphics ? I mean relative to the Nvidia 10 series sure but in terms of all the graphics card out there I would consider it in the upper end.
trishan17 upper mid tier is where I’d put it probably. It’s definitely close to the top tier
Agreed.
It's mid tier within the current gen. You can play all games at 1080p at full details with it.
It would be mid tier if high end gpus wouldn't be so ridiculously expensive that basically nobody can afford them. Thanks crypto currency mining...
The thing I'm worried about is the lack of Gorilla Glass on the Thinkpad. What good is it to have a super durable chassis if the screen breaks?
I want to know if all kind of monitor options from x1 yoga are having reflective monitor ... It bothers me a lot
They all are reflective, yes, but they also have an 'antiglare' coating, so it's not as reflective as, say, the Surface in this vid. You can always buy a matte screen protector later?
I kind of wish that the surface book 2 didn't have a detachable screen and rather a 2-in-1 system like the HP Spectre x360.
I'm kinda scared that if I buy this laptop, I'll lose the base and all the power that comes with it. If it had a x360 type of hinge, it would be my perfect laptop. Thunderbolt 3 would also be nice but alas, no device can be perfect. 😔
3:2 aspect ratio of the Surface screen is BIG plus. So big that all other technical specs are less important for me.
How does the surface book 2 compare to the vaio canvas z in terms of power? I do lots of 4k video editing and moderate after effects work and was thinking of upgrading
Surface Book 2 has massively more powerful graphics, but the Vaio has a little better CPU performance.
MobileTechReview it's honestly really awesome that you responded, thank you!
The only thing missing for the surface book 2 is the the stand like the Surface Pro. If it does in the future, then it's almost the perfect laptop 2-in-1 and can be called Surface Book Pro? ;-)
The only problem that i have with the surfacebook is that its not lap friendly, its more of a desk thing