2-in-1 face off: Surface Book 2 vs. ThinkPad X1 Yoga (2018)
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- When it comes to premium laptops that are also 2-in-1 convertibles the Microsoft Surface Book 2 and Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Yoga come from different starting points but end up being very similar.
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Gotta say, detaching the screen mid-movie and bringing surface book when i take a dump is one of the best things about surfacebooks.
@TheRealBandito Only if it's a very demanding game and you choose max performance. It's not a limitation but a choice Microsoft gives you. After all, the mid graphics setting is called "Recommended" for a reason. They just allow you to go beyond the recommended settings. And the battery won't completely discharge, it will drop out of max settings before that happens. I play a lot of XCOM 2 and Witcher 3 with max details at 2k and have never had the problem.
Frischeparadies if it doesn't work for you that's you for me it works just fine and it deserve every penny
Frischeparadies have you ever use this laptop before. If no I understand why
I know this sounds crazy, but your comment just helped me make a decision
Don't know why I am watching this since I can't afford any of these atm. Still great video.
Going with the X1 Yoga here. Thank you for the video! I'll hopefully remember to do an unboxing of mine.
we started with square screens then we went to rectangle screens and now everyone's going back to square screens
I've had a surface book for two years now. Beware that if anything goes wrong, you CANNOT fix it yourself because it's built like an apple. And also, Microsoft doesn't sell spare parts for it. That means you can't even purchase the keyboard half or tablet half if one of those breaks. You would have to buy a whole new SB.
SB2 for me. I don't care about Thunderbolt 3 and I can make use of it in tablet mode, detached from the base.
@Rose Xoxo I have a Surface Book with USB-C and an Alienware 15 R4 gaming laptop that has Thunderbolt 3, and I've never used either.
Great comparisons! Thanks! Agree on the aspect ratio. For a productivity machine I think that Lenovo should have a 3/2 aspect ratio like the Surface, Pixelbook and Matebook Pro.
please do a x1 yoga vs yoga c930 review!!
14:30 when you are trying to show off a pen but have no idea what to write. Lol
Great job you guys have good reviews and topic vids. Thanks.
Thanks for the review!
It defeats the point comparing these two. Whilst there will obviously be some crossover, these two have different primary target markets. The thinkpad is an out and out business laptop, a large proportion of the sales will be through bulk buying by businesses. The surface book is aimed more at the consumer market.
thank you!! I own that thinkpad and it is my business laptop. Some of my colleagues own a Surface Book 2, but they didn't buy it for work. The graphics card is not necessary except for 3D designers and intensive rendering/modeling. Otherwise, I've found that people only use it for gaming, which is not that popular in the workplace. The thinkpad is a more ideal laptop for business purposes because of vPro, the wider selection of ports, etc etc.. I have also found that many employers will find the ThinkShutter feature along with the mobile broadband option more appealing than anything the Surface Book 2 has to offer. They are both very good devices, but the majority of end users for both products come from different markets and look for very different things. Like you said, many business currently use ThinkPads and they have a reputation for being high quality business laptops, so many of their orders will be bulk buys. A lot of the people looking to buy the Surface Books will be looking for something they can easily take into bed to watch Netflix and game on... things like that.
Man, Daniel's style is so on point! Damn. Surface Book 2 for me. :-)
Thanks! Great video! Great comparison! Few questions:
1) Is the ThinkPad with its poorer GPU still good enough for photo and especially video editing?
2) Will the Lenovo Thunderbolt 3 Graphics Dock with GTX 1050 eGPU work with it? Will it be of any help for photo and video editing?
3) How do the pens perform?
4) Will you compare them with HP Zbook X2, please?
Thanks!
1) For Photo Editing its very good, for video editing its okay but certainly not for 4k editing
2) It should work perfectly fine
3) Awnsers in the video
4) Thats not my decision :)
2) It will help especially with video editing, photo editing will work great even without it
For a photographer, with one to get? Is the HDR screen enough to chose the Yoga over the SB2? In pure performance, photoshop and Lightroom, with will perform best?
I opted for the X1 Yoga because I could basically get the configurations that were important to me for $700 less (8th gen i7 cpu + 16 gb ram were my non-negotiables). I will be using it mainly for art creation/drawing, so there are some usability features I will miss from the SB2, but the yoga makes up for it with its incredibly bright and color accurate screen. Since this is my secondary machine, GPU and SSD size were not too important for me, so I could save on cost by cutting those out.
Have you tried using it also for photos and video editing? Is it good enough? As an aritist, how do you evaluate the pen?
yea SB2 are for power users, you should compare drawing tabs instead
I don't use it for video editing, but I use it daily for pretty large photoshop files with lots of layers without a hitch. I don't use the included stylus much because I purchased a Wacom Bamboo Stylus to use for something a little more substantial. Drawing on it is good, but I still use it with a connected intuous tablet because I haven't gotten used to the pressure sensitivity difference yet. I think I can adapt to it though. My main gripe right now is that if you want to use the side buttons on the Bamboo Stylus (or even on the included stylus), you need to download Wacom's feel driver. This is okay, but it doesn't allow as much control as wacom's intuous drivers. Also, it seems that this driver conflicts with the Intuos's driver and you can't have both installed on windows at the same time.
how is it holding out so far? hows the battery life?
I've purchased surface book 2 I use it for my graphic design business and couldn't ask any more of it I highly recommend it
any issues with wear and tear on either the stylus or the screen? i was curious because wacom tablets usually have the pen wear out to avoid damaging the drawing surface
CoffeeEnthusiast they should be fine, i have a surface pro and i don’t have a problem with that. wacom drawing tablets wear down because the drawing surface of the tablet is bumpy, i think
I agree with Dan about the 3:2 aspect ratio. Once you've used it, it's hard to go back to the traditional 16:9.
That alone is enough for me to choose the SB2. However, better battery life and better gpu make the SB2 the clear winner for me.
Plus, the SB2 looks so cool.
Please do a video comparing the Yoga vs Latitude 7400 2 and 1. Thanks
Can you suggest between the two? As I’ve seen PPT Presentation looks very dull quality display on Lenovo X1 yoga in my office. So how is the display of SB2? Does it provides a good quality display compared to X1 Yoga?
I would love to get me 15" gen2 surface book.
Though my near top spec gen1 is still awesome as heck!
Before you look at the price tag, choosing one over the other really is about preference, they're really competitive with their specs and features. Factoring in the price tag though... kind of have to give the win to the Yoga
Surface Book 2 all the way I have one and never had a problem with it works great!
Does it still work great?
Thinkpad my favorite
SB2 13” with 500GB SSD and 1050 or 15” with 256GB SSD with 1060. Love the 1060 but like how small and light weight the 13” is. Hard choice plz help
The X1 Yoga DOES BREAK. My Gen 1 got a display back cover crack for no reason whatsoever, no drops, no impacts, no pressure or whatsoever other issue. It just appeared out of nowhere. Can't really define that as MIL-SPEC device. The bright side is that the device is a pleasure to use, even after 2 years.
Matebook X Pro VS Surface book 2, please! The two better looking devices on market and with 3:2 aspect ratio!
Pls add yoga x1 vs Latitue 7400 2 in 1
X1 Yoga is way better for that price value. Great Review #Rubino 👍🏼
You can open up the surface book 2 and swap out the ssd if you'd like, as shown by the iFixit teardown of it. It's just really hard to do. So you're wrong in saying you can't swap the ssd out.
Yoooo sweet jacket where did you get it?
Not my kind of laptop, but very powerful and good looking ones, I still prefer the Surface because of the graphics card, I think using a dongle you can do some VR on it
EastWindBreaks actually I enjoy a lot the Right and the PS4 VR, is really awesome at least for me, even cardboard has some great apps
Well it doesn't have a thunderbolt type-c port so, depends on what you mean by that
Flammable Fox having a GTX GC you can do some VR, but for some devices you need more ports, so you might need more ports for some of those options
Chemy Torres, I guess your right. Though I will add if you needed those ports it would be a bit finicky due to the placement of those ports
i much prefere wider displays than going back to 4:3 or 3:2, gives you much more screen real estate when you put 2 windows next to each other. something i use very frequently, on higher displays it will always cut smth off.
i do not know which one should choose :S. I will be using as a superportable secondary laptop to write all my PhD research related work (science). I love the 13.5 SB design and tablet mode, but the seemingly sturdiness of the Thinkpad is very attractive as i will be traveling with it all day long. Any advice from anyone? :C
The price difference buys you a razor core egpu box, and a amd rx580 or nvdia rtx 1060 for top level gaming at home, and a case, and gamimg monitor.
For ANY width of display, the 3/2 aspect ratio provides a larger surface area than the 16/9 ratio! That 16/9 movie can be played, same size on the same width of a 3/2 display. Those black bars show how much viewing content you are missing by using a 16/9 display. This is a reason IMAX theatres are so impressive size wise! This is why some people choose the MacBook Pro display because of its screen real estate for productivity.
Indeed wish that that 16:9 marketing buttfuck aspect ratio got ditched in PC's where it shouldn't have been brought in the first place.
Preceeding 16:10 monitors had more image area and resolution:
1680x1050 vs 1600x900
1920x1200 vs 1920x1080
2560x1600 vs 2560x1440
Especially in smaller resolutions difference in space available for actual work is notable and just in reading anything you need to keep scrolling lot more.
I got the Surface Book 2 about two month ago and I think it’s pretty much perfect for what I am doing with it. I am an Architecture student and use it for CAD-Software and stuff like Illustrator, Photoshop etc. It handles all these processes good( only the fans get a bit loud, but in the winter it’s ok ;)) also the feature to use the pen and draw and write really comes in handy for me. It’s really nice to go to lectures and write all the Notes in OneNote. (I got the 3000€ variant 15”)
Fati AM I have the 15 inch Modell, for me the 13” would be way to small( maybe because my desktop pc has a 32” ) also I feel like using the sb2 in tablet mode as the 15” variant is much more comfortable to use. It’s refreshing working on such a big screen compared to smartphone :D the fans I think are not such a big deal I mean they have to keep a gtx1060 cool. I could imagine that the 13” model is over all quieter because it doesn’t have as much processing power cpu-and gpu wise.
Fati AM I can’t really say if it handles cad software good or bad because I didn’t inform me so much about the x1 but by just seeing the raw specs I would say for now it could run Cad and 3D stuff, but since it only has a Intel UHD 620 as a graphics card I feel like it will not be quite capable of doing those tasks in the future, when the softwares get more advanced and demand more processing power... also Microsoft is very supportive about their devices and when any problems occur you can be pretty certain about replacement or repair. I feel like many people buy the best budget laptops with the best specs you can get and forget to consider build quality and customer support and then get upset if their devices stop working after 2 years. Don’t really now how Lenovo behaves at that point but Microsoft certainly does care about that ^^
Fati AM no problem :D
Which is the better option for an architecture student running software like AutoCAD, Revit, Rhino, Photoshop, etc.??
It seems you need dedicated GPU. If so, the choice is clear.
I'm an engineering student who has to run AutoCAD and Solidworks so I'm going with the Surface Book 2 personally just because of the dedicated GPU but you gotta make sure you get one with the NVIDIA graphics card. That's my personal opinion on it, at least.
Mechanical engineering student using a 13.5 inch sb2 8gb ram i7, absolutely fantastic for stuff like Solidworks etc, tried using a surface pro for it but the lack of a GPU was crippling to the performance so I had to sell and get the sb2, plus clipboard mode is awesome for lecture note taking and jotting stuff down in labs
Lenovo actually made a computer called the yoga 14 with Quadro graphics, seek that one out. Even without graphics I’d still pick the Lenovo, super hard choice tho
I'm an Architect using SB2. Love every bit of it. Pricey but by far my best investment.
You did not mention; For high end device, being able to replace the battery in 2-3 year is a big factor.
SB2 is glued, ThinkPad is at least easy to open and service.
Hi, I have a Dell 7560 as my primary laptop which I use for engineering purpose. I am joining grad school and so I want to buy a tablet pc. Googling for a while, I found that I can get Surface book2 (256 GB, i5, w/ pen, 1120$ => yes cheaper!!) and Surface pro 6 (256GB, i5, with pen and keyboard => 1200$). I am confused which one to go for.
SB2 is great but typing is very important and I cant live without a ThinkPad keyboard and without the trackpoint
Would picked the surface book 2 for the aspect ratio
Is that ok to buy x1 for video editing?
Again Surface is great just give it more ports!
SB2 owner. Would LOVE a dedicated HDMI for that 1060.
Yeah, had to buy this:
www.amazon.de/doedoeflu-Ladeanschluss-SD-Kartenleser-HDMI-Ausgang-Chromebook/dp/B075XH4ZS4/ref=sr_1_7?s=instant-video&ie=UTF8&qid=1526559084&sr=8-7&keywords=usb+c+hub
Just give that USB-C thunderbolt 3, find a way to lower that headphone jack, add a couple more ports for those of us that haven't fully jumped aboard the USBC ship and maybe need a HDMI and you've pretty much perfected the art of laptop creation
The Thinkpad is much better for most professional users. More ports, more resilient. And the surface will be better for video editing, and gaming.
It depends on what profession though. Even just as an engineering student the Thinkpad doesn't have the dedicated graphics I need to run some of the software I need for my classes and will need for my job. If it only had that I would go with the Thinkpad over the Surface, but unfortunately I have to go with the Surface just so I can run these programs with more stability. Otherwise, i agree completely.
CerealKiller2142 There are several thinkpad models that contains dedicated graphics card. But of course not in the yoga models.
CerealKiller2142 What software can't run on the integrated intel graphics card?
The only reason it would be better for professional users is the price point.
is the microsoft surface book 2 worth getting in 2019
Yes! It's an excellent machine.
Are all x1 yoga model having reflective monitor?
Yes
Huawei matebook x pro vs MacBook Pro 💪🏽🔥
The SB2 is sexier, but if I had to buy one right now I would have to go with the Thinkpad. The screen and lack of Thunderbolt 3 at that price is a dealbreaker.
With U series, you need to choose between dGPU or thunderbolt 3. That's what I know.
what screen?
the ureparibility annoys me ... it would be perfect
Haha. Teen Titans Go! Hope you're not a hater too. 🤷♂️ Anyway, I think the Surface Book 2 takes the crown for me. Nice video btw. 🖖
Lenovo wins for the hinge design plus keyboard for me
The big issue is you can open the case of the X1 Yoga 3rd gen and swap the battery, 8022 M.2 SSD, and M.2 WiFi/BT. You can get replacement parts on eBay, including the keyboard and battery (which costs $50-$80 depending on how long you are willing to wait) and it uses standardized parts for the SSD and WiFi/BT, so they can be upgraded. In contrast, the Surface Book 2 is not designed to be fixed or upgraded, so you are going to throw it away after 3 years of use, because you can't expand the storage and the battery will be degraded. If the motherboard fails, you can't open the case and pull out the M.2 SSD and stick in into another machine to get your data. I wouldn't touch the SB2 with a ten foot pole, because I expect my laptops to last and be serviceable.
I have the Surface Book 2 and I love it. The Surface Books are the last laptops I will buy, unless Razer can come up with something better. The Blade is the only other laptop that has amazing build quality, like the Surface Book 2, and a DGPU
Surface Book looks sturdy but the build is far from amazing. They are actually quite delicate, as this review mentions. And repairability is virtually nil -- take a look at the ifixit video.
Would I be able to detach the screen and bring it to school as a tablet while leaving the keyboard base at home
Yes but surface book 2 is old now
@@vaibhavchopra8739 and whats new?
SB2, battery matters! and the tablet👌
X1 Yoga SSD is socketed. Next business day warranty available up to 5 years w/accident drop protection.
Why is there a verticle line at the right side of the screen in SB2 @1:42 of the clip? Is that an issue with the screen?
Swapnil Chaudhari i
Light bleeding
Microsoft surface book is so perfect...but I'll never get it because of lack of thunderbolt. It's such a shame because I love it X(
When you talk about spending nearly $2k for a laptop, I want something that Im not going to have to replace in 2 years...I think the durability and build of the ThinkPad is more valuable in the end
Actually lot more if you want hardware with capabilities to stay good for many years. Meaning quad core CPU and 16GB of RAM.
Which cost notably more with few fixed configurations of Surface Book vs Lenovo offering wider configurability of individual components.
Along with user replaceable battery, ability to clean cooling and upgrading SSD later depending on need.
Besides battery going bad cooling getting clogged by dust is possible thing to need maintenance.
Is Microsoft planning to bring usb c tunderbolt 3 in surface book in near future?
Shashank Shekhar They should bring it to their Pros and Laptops too.
If you mean surface pro 2018 and surface book 3 then 99.9% sure will have thunderbolt 3.
They can't unless they put the thunderbolt in the tablet portion because they can't push that amount of data through the surface connect that connects the tablet and base. So I've heard
Intel U CPUs only have 12 lanes. Most laptops with a dGPU can not have additional thunderbolt because no lanes are left, only laptops that connect the GPU with 4 lanes (mx150 GPUs mostly) sometimes have single, half bandwidth thunderbolt port. You probably need 8 Lanes for a 1050 class GPU, then 4 for the m.2 ssd and all are gone.
I think the most possible solution is to reject the graphic card in the base and leave more pci-E while plugin the devices which need the thunderbolt3
Perhaps for gamers 3:2 is better; but not only for movies but for productivity 16:9 wins hands down. In particular the ability to have two Word documents open side by side. Not to mention two Windows Explorer or many other combinations to leverage the core functionality of Windows.
BTW, give me a TrackPoint for control any day. Matter of taste, but it is far more accurate and easy to use than any Pad.
16:9 is also a lot better in creation/editing softwares as the tools and menus take up space on the side, so a wider screen allows for a larger canvas in the middle.
For ANY width of display, the 3/2 aspect ratio provides a larger surface area than 16/9. That's a fact!
Man, I wish The X1 Yoga had a full out ethernet port.... I'd buy it all day....
But since I have to have a dongle with either.....
Take more of my money M$.....LOL
emmm... anybody know which movie is on 4:45 ？ Thanks
I think it's Venom (2018)
Not going to compare the Windows Inking Pens? 4096 levels of sensitivity with a lot less latency. That little Lenovo stylus is closer to the pen that comes with Samsung Note phones
Does anyone know if there is a way to power 120hz 1440p display from the regular usb-c on the SB2? 144hz maybe? I want to buy a monitor but I'm not sure if the regular usb-c is enough to power a g-sync 120hz 1440p display.
Amirsalar Shekharkhar You can do it with displayport over usb c yes! But forget about gaming at that resolution and refresh rate with a gtx1050! It just won't work.
FYI - For Your Inspiration thanks for the answer. It's a GTX 1060. would that work?
Ah you are talking 15 inch. That works fine! I run my MSI with gtx 1060 with usb c to displayport cable and can easily push 144 fps in Overwatch and similar :) For 1440p it might be on medium settings but should still work.
I'm afraid of buying the Surface book 2 and having hardware problems in one year or so.... as I'll switch between modes at least 3-4 times/day. So, I am afraid of the fact that the pins or the detaching mechanism could get damaged with time. I'm also afraid of getting frustrated because of the small problems such as jitter, just because this is supposed to be a high-end gadget. Could someone tell me more about the "sensitivity" that Dan is talking about or just how good is the hardware....
Are you in the Microsoft complete region? It so, do buy it for the comfort of your mind.
its not all dell lol
I've read comments on reddit, and apparently they're not so good.
No one could get to me a surface or spectre like that sender?
Surface Book 2 uses high frequency PWM; the HDR Yoga does not.
Robgoren what other 15 inch laptops dont have PWM?
@@ATA-wi2lh These 3 sites do pwm tests, of varying levels of accuracy.
-notebookcheck
-ultrabookreview
-laptopmedia
If you feel headaches or eyestrain, there's PWM. Some cameras have shutter speeds of 1/ 32,000 that can detect it. Highly sensitive ocilloscopes are usually required for definitive testing.
what game was that
ThinkPad X1 Tablet i7/16GB/1TB (2018) vs Surface Pro i7/16GB/1TB
Lenovo wins IMHO hinge design is less jankey and keyboard is a delight
I've had been using a Surface device at work since the Pro 3, but I recently switched to the 3rd Gen X1 Yoga and it's all because of the docking station. The Surface dock is a horrible, horrible piece of crap. If you use it for work and dock it a lot, then I would avoid the Surface (any Surface).
anyone else have heating problems with the thinkpad? I can't keep it in tablet mode for more than 35 minutes before I feel the heat through the screen. And at times, when I'm charging, it runs warm.
Really? O.o
Jacket?
The surface book 2 is a great product but for the price, I can go get a thin and light 15 inch gtx1060 laptop and an iPad Pro 11 inch for a better tablet and laptop experience,
2:53 Please what game is that?? 🥺 I love third person shooters.
It's called Gears Of War 4
Surface Book all the way
Matthäus Düri if you can afford it 😂
All the way to RMA. Thinkpads are work horses.
lenovo is not sealed and disposable, but really needs a better gpu.
The problem about the surfacebook is that it won't survive a week with me. I need that carbon build quality of lenovo!
Jesus...is there any good 2in1 laptop under $1000 for a guy who needs it for studying and would like to use the pen? Or would be be more ideal to downgrade to Huawei mediaPad M5 pro?
MarkoSrbija01 the Lenovo L380 yoga is under $1000 (based on configurations) and it comes with the thinkpad pen pro docked into the model
That Girl thanks for that recommendation. I should have mentioned that I'm in Australia, not USA...however I've seen the review and realised it's a great 2in1 and that none of the good ones are under $1000, I'm hesitant to get the M5 ThinkPad since I would also have to buy an SD card and sacrifice my charging slot with a converter for 3.5mm audio jack
MarkoSrbija01 try hp envy 2 in 1 of 2017 at Costco has it for $850 something
Thank you, I live in Australia and have already decided to purchase the Lenovo L380 Yoga.
MarkoSrbija01 surface pro 4
Now that the cheapest iPad has pencil support the convertible aspect isn't as tempting now imo. So much more efficient to get a gaming or productivity laptop plus an ipad instead
And carry two devices? No.
@@py106digital7 and to. Only run mobile app no
sadly not for me because i need a pen to edit in photoshop. means performance and pen. and thats not possible like this. also i wouldnt want to carry 2 devices all the time
how could you not mention the messed up pen jitter on the surface book 2? the latest surface pro also has this problem and there is a 65 page thread about it on MS answers. DO NOT buy the latest surface pro or surface book 2 for note taking. Otherwise, awesome devices.
V Z apperently, it only has that problem when you tried to draw a line really slowly, which noone does tbh
Nguyễn Đình Quang Minh that's not true. It happens at other times too.
X1 Yoga, 500 nits is better for outdoors + LTE = the more portable laptop
Just waiting for LTE to arrive, Can someone pressure Lenovo to get it done NOW :D
So, it IS actually now available BUT you can *only* get the LTE option with a...sad trombone...full HD display at 270 nits :/ I'll do a follow up on this in a few weeks.
ouch, why would Lenovo do something like that smh the agony. Please follow up with Lenovo if you can on if that will ever change or if it is a permanent thing?
LTE would normally be used outside where there is no Wifi and for them to not include the brighter screen which I think would be better for outdoors doesnt make any sense to me.
They have the option for the WQHD display at 270 nits with LTE as well, but still holding out for the HDR display with LTE before I pull the trigger! That's my dream machine!
I just ordered one with QHD screen, non-HDR though. In fact, LTE option only available to non-IR webcams, and non-HDR screens on the Yoga. There's probably space reserved in the screen area for antennas. Lenovo might be in hot water for selling previous X1C6 and Y3 that said, "LTE upgradeable". Reddit forums saying customer service reps are saying their units aren't upgrade able. Yikes.
Miles Enyart 2 Months later and I still can't get the HDR screen and 4G LTE here in the U.S.
I don't like how the think pads keyboard is exposed when you use the tablet. I prefer the book because it protects the keyboard as you use it.
and yess ascetically pleasing too
wanderwaters keyboard retracts when in tablet mode so its flush
Surface Book 2 ANY DAY
I still don't understand why people are making a big deal about Thunderbolt 3. I've never used a USB port EVER for the past few years. One drive helps out with that.
21Vicroy Somehow everybody seems to have two extra 4k screens which they want to run simultanously at 60hz. Or more likely they are just parroting the comments of others
Well you can add pci-e devices to your laptop, like a graphics card, 10gbit network - everything you could add to a desktop. Also instant p2p 10gbit Ethernet between two laptops/devices with tb3.
AlphaWolf 1512 Why would you want to use an eGPU (expensive and not enough bandwidth for high end GPU to make full use of). Why would you have 2 Laptops? For what purpose?
eGPU has enough bandwidth. You can do some serious gaming with TB3 and even a U-series processor.
Windows Central You lose about 30% with the GTX 1080. With future more powerful cards it will only be worse. With a dedicated GPU inside there is no need for an eGPU. Future GPU will fit even better into laptops. So again absolutely no reason for eGPU. Especially considering you have to buy a box to use it, which costs about $400, GPU not included. In the past even before it happened I always wished for eGPUs, but they are totally not worth it. Better go with a maxQ Laptop or wait for the next gen GPUs.
The bandwidth problem is with the TB3 connection.
just waiting for the next generation of SB and hoping they will include more port, thunderbolt 3, speaker in the base for better audio in pc mode (or creator mode) and a most powerfull charger with usb (just stop use personnal port for charging)
lmaoo thunderbolt will never charge a full big battery, wattage is too low macbook has this problem
funny when reviewers say 'not a lot of bass'. name one laptop on this planet that has 'good' bass.
surface book 2
Bah humbug... waiting for the new iPad Pro to come out in June... IPad has tilt in the pen... and thousands of apps....
4 years later I can tell you that the surface book 2 sucks ass and the hinge doesn't work. Go for the x1 yoga!
looks like he's selling the think pad...
Surface pro book 2 is better. Video done.
Noah Pearson Depends who you ask. Many will opt for the Thinkpad because it has better serviceability, better colour accuracy, and slightly lower priced for similar specs.
I love the Surface Book 2 I just hate the "thigh gap"
Sb2 is clear winner
Taimoor Ul Hassan sb2 forever 🙅♂️🙅♂️
Im sorry but the thinkpad is just so ugly.
comparing a mother (surface) with a donkey (yoga) ? common
SB2 wins hands down
HDMI on a laptop should be illegal lol
Care to explain why?
It's illegal as it gives the X1 Yoga a competitive edge which MS fanboys can't stand? Besides HDMI is practical.
Biased review.. 😏