Sacrificed For The System: Kevin Harvick 2020
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Matt Crafton: wins 0 races but gets the championship
Kevin Harvick: wins 9 races and misses the final 4
*P L A Y O F F S*
Austin Dillon wins 0 races but gets the championship.
And that was _before_ these Playoffs.
Ryan Newman
No wins but Makes it to the final 4 and was 1 restart away from Winning the title
Daniel Hemric: No wins in 2017 and 2018 makes the championship 4 and has a shot to do it again this season
Terry Labonte: Winless 3rd in 1982
Its like other sports tho, it comes down to a couple games/races rather the whole season. My Packers had 15-1 year and got eliminated right away. The year they won the super bowl, they barely sneaked their way into the playoffs. The sacrifices sports make for entertainment.
@@DupontandLowesWarrior yes it happened in the old system but it was rare in just 7 years we have had how many
I still find it interesting that you can lead every single lap in a season except for the last and lose the championship
Screw the playoffs
@@Massachamp08 cry about it
@@cba_2442 its well known the format is bullshit unfortunately
@@Massachamp08 Well actually, it even screwed over Kyle in 2018. He mathematically would've won the championship had there been no Playoffs.
But yes, this forced entertainment format is stupid. I have been complaining about the execution of the "post-season" format since 2004.
This is why I would tweak the current format to a combination of the old Chase and the current Playoff system. Keep the same regular season points and race formats but with 25 races(instead of 26) plus a 9 race Playoff for a total of 34 races(instead of 36).
12 drivers will make the Playoffs, the Top 10 in points make the Playoffs(with the same bonus points for finishing in the Top 10 as now). Plus two wild cards which can be either drivers with wins that are within the Top 25 in points or the 11th and 12th place drivers in points if there are no other winners.
Playoffs are as follows...
Round of 12
3 races
Round of 8
3 races
Championship 4
3 races
Win and advance remains in the Playoffs, Playoff Points are carried into each round, but in the Championship 4 round Stage wins are worth an extra 5 points and race wins are worth an extra 15 points. Whoever has the most points at the end is the Champion 🏆
Harvick would have had 4 championships: 2010, 15, 16, and 20, if we were under the old Winston points format. Harvick, Jeff Gordon, and Carl Edwards were killed by the Chase
Yep. Gordon would have had 7 championships (1995 1997 1998 2001 2004 2007 2014)
Nobody has been screwed more by the playoffs than Harvick
@@hunternixonfishing2500 Carl Edwards also.
@TJ89741Winston cup is also wtf format
"Winning means everything"
**wins 9 races**
"Ok yes, but not at this specific time where it *actually* means everything"
how can you give harvicks wins the same credit as a normal win when qualifying was all screwed. it is a huge advantage. especially on the clean air tracks where he crushed it. that system was aids. it shoulda just rotated
@@soulfly3438 The pole sitter actually rarely wins, your argument is irrelevant.
@@soulfly3438 yeah I mean it's not like the team has to set the car up without 100% knowing how it's going to drive on a weekly basis and Kevin Harvick is one of the best driver's in NASCAR history... No that couldn't be.
Harvick was winning until the pressure was on. He choked and that’s all there is to it🤷♂️
@@spiderman4207 that's total BS.
Rick Allen: "Yeah nine wins is great but it doesn't actually mean anything." If that doesn't make you hate the playoffs idk what will lol
Should have been able to finish the job. You didn't see the NFL hand the SB trophy over to the pats after their perfect season. So why should NASCAR hand the title to Harvick. The pats weren't able to get it done and neither was Harvick.
@@kryonikgaming1346
They playoff has ruined nascar like it has college football.
@@kryonikgaming1346 Stop comparing Nascar to other ball sports! they are not the same.
There should be ALOT MORE POINTS FOR WINNING!!!!! THAT'S WHAT THEY RACE FOR ISN'T IT? IN THAT YEAR chitrolling only won 2 or 3 races in the regular season. THEN NASCROLET SUDDENLY HELPS SH_TROLLING'S CAUSE - 6 WINS IN THE LAST 11 RACES!!!! LOOK IT UP!!!!! WTF? WAY TOO MUCH FAVORITISM FOR THE BOWTIE BITCHES OVER THE LAST 50 - YES 50 YEARS!!!! NASCROLET HATES FORD AND DODGE FOR LEAVING IN THE 70'S DURING THE FUEL CRISES ⛽!!!! UPPER MANAGEMENT APPARENTLY MADE AN ARRANGEMENT WITH GM/CHILDRESS/HENDRICKS. LIKE PETTY SAID YEARS AGO NASCROLET WAS TRYING TO ARRANGE FINISHES!!! I'VE WATCHED/READ (STOCK CAR RACING MAGAZINE)THIS SPORT SINCE 1967 - IN THE 8O'S THEY DISPLAYED A SH_TROLLING'S COWNTDOWN TO PASSING FORD'S TOTAL WINS ON TV WHEN THEY WON - DO YOU REALLY THINK THIS WOULD BE SHOWN IF IT ALREADY WASN'T DECIDED IT WOULD HAPPEN????? 90'S HAD THE SPECIAL SH_TROLLING'S WINNING MOMENT SHOWCASE WITH NASCROLET'S APPROVAL!!!! CORRUPT AS_HOLES!!!! ALWAYS HELP SH_TROLLING, BUT SLOW FORDS DOWN. ALWAYS SINCE THE 70'S!!!!! MAKE THINGS FAIR IDIOTS- YOU ALWAYS SPOUT OFF PARITY YET BOWTIE BITCHES WIN 10 TO 12 TIMES MORE THAN THE OTHERS COMBINED!!!!!
Team Kardboard Mafia Because in football, you don’t play every other team at once 36 times over the course of a season. In NASCAR, you do. If you want to make a fair comparison, compare NASCAR to another motorsport such as IndyCar or F1.
I miss the 2003 format. I've never believed that wins should make a championship, consistency should, therefore you're cheering for drivers to win or to finish well. With the final 4 or 8, if your driver/s didn't make it, you just don't care about their race results.
It's so obvious that all you had to do was award wins with more points if wins mean that much more. Consistency should still matter, too.
It's stupid that someone could win every race except one, and lead every single lap except one and finish 4th in the standings. NASCAR should feel stupid and ashamed that they let a terrible format like this get anywhere near the sport, let alone being the format they use.
you can win all 34 races, and on the last one you can still lose
*35
@@SMCSRacingNetwork can you read it? It literally equals 35.
@@blacktoblack7292 We have 36 races, numpty.
@@blacktoblack7292 There are 36 races in a season, so...
Narrator: _its now 2021 and we’re heading into the playoffs with Kevin Harvick having zero wins…_
*what a difference a year makes…*
He’s setting up the greatest Mickey championship of all time
@@votekyle3000 unless he wins the Winston championship that be impressive hes only 6th rn in the Winston points or 5th
@@AstronomyGal420 He's actually in 9th spot if you don't count the chase. Definitely not non-chase championship material this season
@@captainnebulous2918 he has an outside shot to leapfrog Logano, maybe Blaney, and even Truex in normal points to gain up to 3 playoff points. (He currently has 2 due to being 9th place in points)
I knew that there would be a drop-off for him, cause nobody performs that well in back-to-back seasons nowadays, but I wasn't expecting the drop-off to be this bad.
I’d love too see them bring back the old Winston cup points system even though that’s not realistic
I liked it as well
It's the logical system.
Screw that.
Never gonna happen
The old point system,every race mattered.Now you can win Daytona 500 and race 30th the rest of the season.And still have a chance to win the championship.The chase is just a horrible system
Harvick missing the championship 4 is a blatant example of why the playoff system is broken. NASCAR wants to heavily emphasize on winning yet having 9 wins ain’t enough
"He DiDnT WiN wHeN iT cOuNtEd"
@@JohnSmith-mk5jt true but still
But nothing. When it matter the most his team choked. No excuses. He gets stage points he's in. His team didn't perform and that is why he missed it. He didn't crash he had a terrible race car. The End
@@clifforddavidson7273 He didn't "choke"
I’m a Chase fan and I’m glad Elliott got the title, but harvick deserved a spot in the final four more than most of the drivers in the final four. He literally got scammed
"The champion isn't always the driver with the most wins - you have to have consistently!"
Harvick average finish 7.3
Elliott average finish 11.7
This is why I watch IndyCar now. Less gimmicks, more competition.
"But real Indycar era ends in 2011!"
Matt Kenseth 2003: consistency wins the championship.
Kyle Busch 2015: I missed 1/3 of the season, how the f*ck did I win the championship?
Here’s an idea, winning the regular season championship gets you automatically in the championship 4
That’s actually a really good idea. If NASCAR is going to keep this system, that would be one way to improve it.
If they was to keep this system that is something that I would get behind. Definitely not ideal but something to reward the best driver through 26 weeks. Imagine how intense the battle between Larson and Hamlin would have been this year if that was the rules it could have been a great battle for the last 5-6 weeks.
No postseason
No stages
36 races and make every single race matter
That is the most fair because nascar is not a stick and ball sport
As a Harvick fan the second he hit the wall at Texas I just knew his season was done, and it really hurt to see
It's hard being a Gordon and Harvick fan sometimes..
I feel so bad for Harvick.. 9 wins and a dominant season to Not being able to Pass Logano due to the Package and being stuck in dirty air. Then NASCAR racing in the rain and the worst part about it was that he was running that Cursed Hunt Bros Car that day at Texas Then his Desperate attempt at moving Kyle Busch out of the way at the final turn only to Wreck himself and somehow the 18 Crossed the finish line without a Scratch At martinsville
It was karma for 2015 Talladega.
It písses me off almost every year that the driver that has more than enough for the title doesn't even get a crack and the driver least deserving of the championship that season wins the championship.
IKR
Bad take
By this comment, Derrike Cope wins the championship this year. Congratulations!
Even in the Winston format, the driver with the best average finish did not win the championship every year.
@@Nc3three Yes, but that happened 4 times in its last 15 seasons. The playoffs? 5 times in 7 seasons.
Yeah, something's not adding up here.
@@firstlast19956 all opinion 🤷♂️ I think the comment I replied to was a bad take. You’re entitled to your opinion but it’s not subjective.
The absurd part isn't that he didn't win, it's that he's scored as 5th in points.
With the original Chase format and no resets, he would've been around 3rd in points and Elliott still wins the title. The format helped him by giving him like a +30 points lead at the start of each round no matter how well he was actually racing, but it also hurt him by punishing him too harshly for like two bad races.
As a Harvick fan for almost two decades now, I'm at peace with him not winning, but him being scored as 5th in the standings is completely absurd.
If we use pre stage era points and 2011 Chase format, Harvick could of been a champion because of his good cushion with 9 wins.
@@chromediesel444 if we used the points system Petty and Earnhardt won their championships with, Harvick won his 4th championship in 2020, with 3 races left to go.
I honestly couldn't even believe what was unfolding in front of me in that Martinsville race. I was pretty much in denial of what was happening the whole. It was a strange experience. I'll never forget that race
That is a perfect title for a video like this. I have to agree with Harvick in that the championships dont have the same weight as they did...maybe even less weight than they did in the 04-13 format.
You could almost do a similar video about Harvick and the 2015 Chase, as he had like 20 top 3 finishes, but loses the championship to a driver that missed over a third of the season.
2015 and 16 Harvick scored the most points.
This is going to be a dope series
Yessirrrr
Of course.
Holy cow I never get this many likes
@@theultimatekfbfan2721 It's okay pal.
Sacrificed for the System: Jeff Gordon 2004, 2007, 2014
Every Jeff Gordon fan, myself included, will be taking that to the grave...unfortunately. LOL!
@@christenn32 I'm a Jimmie/Just a Hendrick fan in general and he should be the 7 time champ still glad my boy is still 7x but Jeff just had so much bad luck
@@j9vlikz683 2007 was bad though. An average finish of 5.5 in the Chase and still loses the title to JJ. I still can't watch highlights from that year, hurts too much.
@@christenn32 ouch still not as bad as Gordon not even having a shot at the championship tho
He would’ve won the title if NASCAR kept the old Winston Cup format.
He still locked that up in Texas, even with the bad race.
Well no duh sherlock
The Fact That He Didn’t Have a Chance at The Tittle Missing The Champ 4 After The Season He Had… Just How
Just goes to show you how flawed the championship format really is. You can win 35 races and finish second in the final race and not win the championship. Harvick’s perfect season meant absolute shit in the end.
Playoff/Chase format championships are illegitimate and you can't change my mind.
Kevin Harvick is a top 10 all timer who was thrown into the most pressured situation any rookie in probably any sports division has ever been. He was thrown into the water and told to swim. Not only did he swim but he saved the sinking ship by winning at Atlanta. Went on to have a great career with RCR, which we later find was clearly overachieving. Went on to become the dominant driver since his move to SHR. The fact that year 20 was as good as it was says everything about him. I dont care about the outcome last year, we remember 9 wins in year 20. And every now and then I cant help but think of how proud the Intimidator has to be that Richard's pick for his replacement, has had this kind of career.
NASCAR honestly from my side looks like a mess now,like its fun but its so artificial ...im a motosports fan so i watch everything that i can,mostly indy and F1 ,but i watch nascar sometimes,and as much as i enjoy it race to race,the championship battle seems like a joke with the newer system, correct me if im wrong
Kevin Harvick is the best driver in the 2010s. 4 times (2010,2015,2016,2020) he has been the most consistent driver yet he really only has 1 championship to show for it. Sacrificed for the system too many times.
2018 if weren't for The Vegas Pocono and Texas penalties
Harvick won more races, had more top 5s, more top 10s, and led more laps than anyone in the 2010s. His stats from 2014-2020 are actually just as good, if not slightly better, than Jimmie's from 2006-2012. Jimmie won 5 championships in that span. Harvick just won 1 championship.
Denny Hamlin vs Harvick in 2020, during the pandemic, should go down as one of the all time great regular season battles
Or as we used to call it, the season.
friendly reminder you can win 35 races and finish 2nd in the finale and lose the championship, yet have 0 wins and finish 33rd (assuming the finale is a 36 car field) and be the champion.
Possible? Yes. Likely? Not really. The Winston Cup points system is possible to Win 35 races and lose the championship. Likely? Not really. But possible.
You can do in Football You can go 18-0 But lose in super bowl
@@clifforddavidson7273 That wouldn’t have been possible in the Winston cup system because the winner got like 10 points more than second. So let’s say the same guy finishes second every race he would still be around 350 points behind the guy who won the first 35 races. So the guy who wins every race doesn’t even start the last race and the guy who has been second wins the 36th race he wouldn’t beat him out on points because 195 is the most points you could get under that system.
@@kyletillmon5218 this isn’t football though. This is racing. Completely different.
@@shrimpshrubbery7664 It's a sport plain and simple.
I really want to see Harvick race against his boss in the SRX. With the way he seems to be getting fed up with NASCAR, my hopes are even higher.
You hit the nail right on the head Darian.
The direction in which NASCAR is headed in is absolutely frightening.
Add the points system to the list of reasons, and you have one of the numerous reasons as to why the Bill France Cup is not as sought after of an automobile racing championship prize as it once was. Scott Dixon said it best in a comparison and contrast video with Jimmie Johnson on CGR's TH-cam Channel. The playoff system was his biggest turn-off.
The playoff system has looked good on paper and it is fun to go back through history to see what would have happened if the playoff system were implemented in the years leading up to 2004 and beyond, but it has gone to showcase why the best drivers in North America are in IndyCar this year, and why the Astor Cup and the World Driver's Championship are more prestigious championship prizes in the sport of automobile racing.
NASCAR doesn't need playoffs for the sake of entertainment. That factor will come into play, just look at the battle between Lewis Hamilton and Max Verstappen right now in the current fight for the World Driver's Championship.
If this is going to be a regular series, I request Jeff Gordon in his 3 Championship Robberies in 2004, 2007, and 2014.
jeff gordon was better than jimmie johnson, but the time jimmie came to cup series was just right and he was a lot better at the play offs and the chase, but In terms of wins jeff gordon is the dominant driver in the old points system from 90's
@@tuftyterror983 Jeff Gordon is the most dominant driver since Petty/Pearson
Wait until this happens again in Daytona tomorrow night.
Not even a huge Harvick fan but Ill always consider him the unofficial champion of 2020 after going through it
Crazy he had locked up the most total points with over two races to go.
Anyone who’s saying that the old Winston format is “unrealistic” completely forget that Indycar and F1 use a no gimmick system.
But they have significantly shorter seasons. Ours is so long it's prone to runaways.
@@cba_2442 okay and who cares?? The premier league in soccer is a super long season and they crown a season champion.
@@cba_2442 it's longer but it's really unlikely that someone dominates to the point of winning the championship with more than one race to go. And BTW, what if someone does it? Answer: the system should reward it. A "win and you're in" format is terrible for motorsport, since too many random things can alter the outcome of a race. But that doesn't really happen over the course of an entire season. So: screw the playoffs and go back to a normal points system. Want to make it even more fair? Don't award points for leading laps. You want to reward winning over everything else at least a bit more? Then just give some more points for the win. That's it. Nothing more is needed.
@@everythingleftturns7782 you are just going to have to accept it. Nascar doesn't want early locked up championships. We would be worse off all around.
@@cba_2442 I believe that is a very poor argument considering Nascar was on an uprise throughout the implementation of a full Nascar season. NASCAR peaked ONLY after its 2nd full season with the playoffs in 2005. Downhill ever since.
The playoff format is the main reason why I stopped watching NASCAR before last season. Watching your video, it seems like we have another Jeff Gordon 2007 type of season completely wasted because of it.
Same avg finish too
As a Kyle Busch fan watching him spin across the finish line that was a pro gamer move
As a Harvick fan I was embarrassed and made me upset at Harvick.
@@danielmackey9765 Lol
@@danielmackey9765 don't waste your time being upset. The system has created that, any other driver would've done the samething.
@@christenn32 yeah that's last year. This year is embarrassing for a whole new reason. 🤣😂
Last season for me basically confirmed my hatred for the current format.
I get it, it brings a certain element of unpredictability and strategy, which is great for entertainment. However I see it as yet another move by Nascar distancing themselves from their roots, just like the current state of Major League Baseball.
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It's still surprising that the most dominant driver of 2020 failed to make the final 4
Obviously the driver wouldn't deserve it because they couldn't be clutch when it matters /s
@Piks haha yes I'm kidding, that's what the /s is for. Too many variables in motorsports to let it all come down to a single race to crown a champion.
Sadly in the elimination chase “era”, Jeff Gordon (2014), Kevin Harvick (2015-2016, 2020), and Kyle Busch (2018) have suffered from this…. I am sure Brian France is happy about that.
Sadly, I think more drivers will suffer from the format if they’re the real full season champions, but didn’t get the title at the end of the chase until the format (smart-fully somehow) dies.
Jeff Gordon (2007): Am I a joke to you?
@@NASCARFAN93100 I was strictly talking about that disgraceful format, not the other one
@@IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT Oh yeah that's right
But for the other one Jeff Gordon 2007 takes the cake
@@NASCARFAN93100 yeah, chase-wise in general. Very stupid
@@NASCARFAN93100 i don’t think Jeff was screwed by the system at all in 07. He just got flat out out driven by JJ when he won 4 in a row and was just about unstoppable.
I wish they would brick back the old Winston cup points system
I wish we could just go back to the Winston cup.
Matt Crafton winning the championship with 0 wins and Kevin Harvick loses the championship with 9 wins. What happens this year
McDowell swags his way to the final 4 and wins the championship over Aric Almirola, Kurt Busch, and Christopher Bell with a 13th place finish while the others finish 16th, 18th, and 20th respectively. And I wouldn’t be complaining.
@@handsomedevil4928 same. McDowell goated
@@Riggsfan99 exactly. That’s what I’ve been saying
Kevin Harvick and Joey have been my favorite drivers since I was 10
5:19 I remember watching this race, Hamlin was really close and I remember seeing Harvick having worry in his eyes from the charging Hamlin.
The format is an embarrassment. It has been since 2004. It feel's like every championship since deserves an asterisk. Top 5s and top 10s use to mean something. Consistency got the most respect. It's really sad and pathetic from Nascar to let 10 months of hard work from the teams come down to ONE race where you could be taken out, caught up in somebody else's mess or have a tire go down, whatever. You could have been the best at your job for the entire 10 months, better than everybody else but bc of one race...you won't be rewarded, recognized or remembered for it.
2004 was a great season. They just got greedy and tried to replicate it every year
It blows my mind that the two drivers who won the most races a year ago can go winless just a year later. I wish the drivers skills would play a role in who wins a race and who wins the championship.
The real champion from last season. #getridoftheplayoffs
He choked.
@@cba_2442 your ignorance is incredible. He had the best average finish on any driver on the grid by TWO POSITIONS (7.3 to Hamlin's 9.3) and would have walked away with the trophy after Texas. The term you're looking for is "got screwed."
0:20 "That 18 car has got to be a mess!" -Darrell Waltrip, 2012 Clash
Another huge point that the playoff system is weird was Matt Crafton Winning The 2019 Championship but won 0 races
I feel bad for harvick because it seems like he still hadn't recovered from the loss this year
It's not him its SHR having garbage equipment
@@bradymccathren3064 Tony is angry with NASCAR
It's either that, or maybe Father time has caught up with Harvick
@@cito1101 The age is not a problem
@@Weezy10580 Plus, he currently has an average finish of 11.5 which is 4th best for full time drivers. Only Larson, Hamlin, and Elliott have a better average finish.
Pain. Harvick would have 4 championships if it crowned the best team all year. Truex in 2017 is the only deserving champion under the playoff format so far. And Larson wasnt too good at Phoenix earlier this year so there will most likely be another undeserving champion
While I'm always one of the first people to point out the flaws of not only the playoffs, but the chase system as well, there were two actually. MTJ deserved his in 2017, along with Kyle in 2019.
It's funny, since they killed the legitimacy of the championship in 2004, only 7 of the 17 championships have been awarded to the best driver.
One of multiple reasons I'm not watching playoffs anymore. They're illegitimate.
I guess that means you don't watch any sport that has a playoff format due to their 'illegitimacy'.
@@JerBuster77 I already don't watch football or soccer much at all. But playoffs prove a lot more when it's one team vs. another. Not 15 teams and 24 just to get in the way.
I liked the chase format before this. With the regular Winston points, that magical Tony Stewart run in 2011 would’ve never happened.
Right but other longer runs during the season would occur.
This is one reason out of several as to why the playoff system HAS 👏 TO 👏 GO 👏!
Must we remember how jimmie won his 7th cause of this format
@@Jeff.3 do Johnson fans even care about 2016? I don't
It will not go.
From now on, no one should be using Matt Kenseth's 2003 season as an excuse for the chase/playoff format.
No need, we have Matt Crafton.
I still don't get why people complained about that season (I was 3 at the time so I dont remember it). If Matt had the most points at the end of the season... he's the champion. Terry only won twice in both his championship years, Kulwicki only won 2 in '92, and Edwards only won once in 2011 (and we all know he deserved that one). How did Matt's one-win title suddenly trigger the murder of Nascar's legitimacy as a sport?
I think of all the sports communities on youtube. NASCAR youtube is the best. The effort all y’all put into videos, production, accuracy, explanations. It is amazing above and beyond what major cable channels did in the past
''And Harvick is going to be out of the playoffs!'' Words I will never forget. And never did I imagine and still can't believe that I witnessed Harvick missing the championship 4 last year after his 9 win season.
Hot take: If NASCAR ever goes back to a full season points system, they should drop bonus points related to leading laps and, on top of it, adopt Super GT-style success ballast system.
I'd rather have top 20 points system than the ballast weight system, drop the bonus points for leading laps. That way, with the 36 race calendar, it will make NASCAR a more punishing sport since you got to stay on the points to keep momentum.
The 2020 season left me feeling incomplete. I’m not a huge Chase fan but I cannot deny his championship he and his team clicked at the right time but we all didn’t get the battle we should have. Hamlin was a literal non factor at Phoenix and harvick was just driving around and it all felt wrong.
Sacrificed for the system : JEFF GORDON
Thought for sure you’d mention how nascar backed out of the chase Elliot penalty
Right then I knew the Fix was in
lol
Future uploads: Exposing The System: The Austin Dillon Story and What’s Next For Erik Jones.
The fact that he didn’t even get to race for that championship is a travesty and shows how broken this dumb system is.
BFM, the new Mark Martin of NASCAR TH-cam with that advertisement, right? Darian keep doing it 👏
The only change I'd make to the point system is that a Rick Ware car automatically gets in the final 4. I think we all can agree with this
They should go back to a modified 2011-2013 system with like top 14 make the playoffs and 2 wildcards but no rounds within the playoffs
after buying a beautiful gold mobilthousand #4 2021 gen 6 Kevin Harvick car, (my first Harvick car) has now made me a great Kevin Harvick fan especially after watching this video.
Kevin harvick needs to learn the ways of the *JIMMY*
Harvick has every right to complain that the playoff championships are not the same that Earnhardt and Petty won.
He would have won four championships (2010, 2015, 2016, 2020) under the old system and his legacy changes as much as any driver outside of Jeff Gordon (from 4 titles to 7), and likely even including Jeff Gordon.
Just imagine what the sport would have looked like if Jeff Gordon gets 7 titles instead of Jimmie Johnson and if the guy that replaced Dale Freaking Earnhardt wins four of his own.
Between this and stages. This is why IMSA and the tour mods are the only Nascar divisions worth my time to watch. I'm going to go watch the Indy pro 2000 race from gateway now.
Missed the fact that they told Jones not to pass. Therefore fixing the outcome of the race. Violating the 100% effort rule. And I like Chase but a 12th place average finish vs a 7th place one, you don't deserve to be champ
Jeff Gordon was screwed the most out of anybody since the chase was created Jeff should have been champ in 2004 2007 and 2014
It sucked being a Gordon fan knowing he deserves more credit than he gets.
The same thing happened under the Winston Cup points system in 1985 between Elliott & Waltrip. Elliott won the most races, but Waltrip chipped away at Elliott’s points lead over weeks.
But that's because Waltrip was more consistent. Not because of a points reset.
@@The52car I totally understand that the old Winston Cup points system rewarded consistency. What I’m saying is that Elliott had 11 wins, so in theory, he should’ve won the championship. Waltrip was more consistent. I should’ve been more clear.
NASCAR should have granted Harvick a 5th Spot in the Finale for Phoenix. The only reason Hamlin was ahead of him in points is that JGR instructed Erik Jones not to pass him which is a violation of the 100% rule.
Rest assured from now on there won't be a dominating driver anymore with at least 20 excellent drivers to chase you down. Plus more top talent on the way to replace the never do wells. You can't intimidate a rookie anymore when there's too many of them, and they are great. It's going to be better than ever.
One way that might fix the system:
1. Eliminate the 'Win and you advance' policy
2. Let season wins determine tiebreaker between points (if both tied in points then let it be whoever beats who)
3. Just award more points for race wins
Boom now you need to have a combination of both winning and consistency.
Matt Kenneth’s 2015 season would be a great follow-up
I'm not a Harvick fan at all, but he definitely got robbed out of a championship by the system. He was the best driver by far last year.
Last season was the biggest black mark on the chase since 2007. One of the most embarrassing season in history for nascar.
Thats season puts a nail to a coffin of stewart haas racing. The harvick incident made them irrevelant and inconsistent most of the weekends. After losing major sponsor and harvick, its clear that Gene and Tony have decided to shut its doors and end the SHR as we know it…😢
BFM, I understand you trying to expose this system after Harvick’s heartbreaking end to his amazing 2020 campaign, but you are 7 years late to the party.
Jeff Gordon was the original, sacrificial lamb of this system in 2014.
4 wins, 12 top 2 finishes, 23 top 10s, over 1,000 laps led & an average finish of 10.4 was Gordon’s benchmark in 2014.
All this was undone by a sanctioning body that wanted synthetic, Game 7 moments on a consistent basis versus a consistent, full-season-based system.
Harvick was undoubtably screwed by this “points system” in 2020, but the original victim was Jeff Gordon in 2014.
May I present the 2007 season? Jeff has the title in is trophy cabinet before we go to Homestead... except the Chase happened and screw Brian France in the ear.
@@aviserig I agree that 2007 was the worst championship robbery of The Chase/Playoff Format.
However, BFM did a video on the 2014 through 2020 playoff format.
That’s why I used Jeff’s 2014 season to showcase the absolute robbery that this format can also cause… Harvick in 2020 was just another victim, but not the first.
I got tired of NASCAR around 2003 and as soon as Rusty Wallace retired I more or less quit caring, I cheered for Jeff Burton for a little while and eventually just quit watching races by 2012. It sucks, NASCAR was the first sport I ever followed or cared about. It's changed so much that it's unrecognizable to me now
Sacrificed For The System: Jeff Gordon 2014
2004, 2007, and 2014..
Imagine Brad K driving the #6 next year sponsored by Rex MD
I’ll be real here, I watch NASCAR a lot but I don’t take the championship itself seriously
As a Harvick fan this season still stings. This playoff system is absolutely more skewed towards entertainment than crowning a real champion. I will say this season was fun to watch basically watching Harvick and Hamlin trade blows all season every week you knew you had to beat 1 of those 2 guys
I was really surprised when I didnt watch for a few races and came back and saw he wasnt in the final 4/play off race
I cannot reiterate enough how this playoff format would be tolerable if they just got rid of the win-and-you're-in system. Its the only reason Harvick was out, because Elliott won despite him not being in a place to points his way in.
It was heart breaking watching that Texas race live
I think the biggest thing that causes the Championship controversy is the fact that schedule has a set end. For example take the NBA playoffs, it's a best of 7. Rather than it playing the 7th game if it's already 5-1 or saying the last game wins all they have a few games that may or may not happen so the last game WILL decide the winner. Sadly there probably isn't a stable way to work The logistics to implement a similar system to NASCAR
Last year both Harvick and briscoe had their championships runs sacrificed for the better of nascar and its dumb playoff system. They both won the most races last season and still lost the championships.
this is why I left nascar for F1, you might have to buy your championship, but its over the whole season
Dam do I miss the Winston cup points system..I'd settle for the system when it was the Nextel cup with he old chase format but this stuff today isn't half as good.
If take the Nextel Cup system back for sure even. The final 4 format is stupid
@@packisbetter90 it's like people have said.... You can win the first 35 races and if you come in 2nd in the last one, you loose the championship. That's insane. The odds of that are astronomical but still....
@@DNSV-ex8of Also can happen in the old Winston Cup Format. Fans have to make a choice. As a fan I don't really care how a champion is crown as long as is fair across the board for all teams. But if fans want the old system they have to live that most years the championship will be mathematical over by race 35 and Realistically over by race 26.
i have an alternative solution: instead of the elimination, do the 10 race Chase from 2011-2012, BUT offer a 30 point bonus to the winner of the season finale to keep it interesting.
Why doesn't NASCAR use a simple F1 style points system for the championship?
*goes to REX-MD*
‘Yes I’ll take 200 xannies and a few oxys if possible’