ELECTRIC SPORTBIKE from CHINA | the Chinese Seller that SCAMMED Me Still Won't Help...
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ต.ค. 2024
- Almost a year ago, I bought an electric sportbike from China and got it six months later. The Chinese seller, Wuxi Saichi Vehicle Industry, sent me the base model motorcycle when I paid twice as much for an upgraded version of the electric bike. Ordering from China through Alibaba.com sounds good when you look at prices, but for me, the whole experience has been unpleasant, even to this day. The seller pulled a good old-fashioned scam on me and forever lost my trust when they wouldn't make it right.
THE SELLER CHANGED HIS COMPANY NAME TO "Wuxi Jose Vehicles Co., Ltd" ...Avoid them like the plague.
The link to this electric sportbike and all the information is in this video:
• How I Bought an ELECTR...
BUT, if you're considering buying a bike like this, watch the whole video. It is very hard to get one of these and you may not get what you pay for.
• FOLLOW ON •
INSTAGRAM: / the_inja
FACEBOOK: / injamotorcycles
I hope these videos help.
From one private consumer to another: Wuxi Saichi is a scammer company. AVOID.
Thumbs up so everyone can see.
We listening thanks we know now
I've cancelled my order from this company.
me too
Good for you guys
Fantastic
You ordered from there? Why????????
-hey, Mr boss, we have a chance to promote our bike in the US and sell lots of bikes!
-excellent, scam him!
Lol
Funny brother
o no you figuered out there secrets, no hold on a second its not a secret any more.
😂
I literally bust out laughing for 5 minutes at this
It might be time to convince some mates to go for a vacation to China with you. I had an overseas supplier ignore all my messages and calls about an order I had paid for once. He didn't know I was going to his country for a holiday anyway, and the look on his face when four of us turned up on his doorstep was priceless. Issue resolved instantly.
Just about placed an order with these guys for 10 bikes. You just saved my ass! Thank you!
Dang, you’re quick!
@@The88Nomad Boy does it pay to search TH-cam and review
Ok
where you really about to order 10?
I was going to buy at least that many.. not now thank you so much for this story of getting screwed. had my suspicions though..
This is the difference between Japanese and Chinese business. The Japanese upholds their honor!
Lol
You've said it!!
Unfortunately true I’d rather trust a Japanese than a Chinese person.
Sincerely Japanese has honor! God bless them.
Oladapo Lawal They were killing umericans a few decades ago, Chinese never killed any,
I was about to buy from this exact same company! Thank you so much to warn me beforehand to NOT deal with these unscrupulous narcissist money centered individuals.
Let's see an upgrade series on this bike. "The way it should have shipped" 👍😲
Yesss,make it a rocket track weapon lol.💪
Upgraded inverter, motor ,battery and then take it to smaller tracks.
Would be a great show with rebuild videos and the actual track test..
It would be fun to see but the sad reality is it would close over $1000 to build or buy a proper battery in fact at a 17s 8p pack with all the chargers and gear to build it it would be closer to $1500
@@EQINOX187 yes that's might be true but you can see it as an investment into his channel. With a build series and some cool track shots he could gain new subs ,views,likes,shares,which could mean some money from Google.
Also that weird Chinese company could see what their product should be really about,and what they should have delivered in the first place.
@@laz1go286 True and in another comment he says he has most of the parts for a new battery so that should make the bike come alive, as for the Chinese company well they will not care the reality is even at china prices it would be impossible to build the bike with a lipo battery for the price they are asking
The 5 dislikes must be the 5 people from the company lol
hahaha
😝
Jason Wu and the Wu Tang Clan :D
Is there any chance for a lawsuit u are out hundreds of hours and thousands of dollars this sounds like a simple thing for the international trade commission to help u with
@@TheInja I totally wanted one till I saw the 3rd video in the series following the series now. I'm glad ur here to save me cause I would fly over there and kick some ass I would be doing a lot more to piss in their cheerios than u have done
"You buy now go away!" -Chinese sellers
Pretty much 🤷🏽♀️
So sorry you had to go through all this pain and suffering and it's still ongoing. Hard to believe these people can operate a company this way. Thanks for the warnings, I'm sure all your viewers appreciate it........at least that came out of it.
Appreciate that. 🙏🏽
This dudes youtube channel blew up because of this scam. Made back the cost of the bike 10x with ads. Dont be so sorry.
@@vluggelunie still doesn't make up for all the hours, sleepless nights, money, travel, the night spent in my car 250 miles from home, and the 300-email threads before even getting the bike. Not to mention all the heartache afterwards and even to this day.
When I saw the delivery of the bike I was interested in it but now seeing all th bs the company has caused I changed my mind
Me too!
Actually I did too I was going to ride it to work every day !
same here. what a disaster
If this had turned out positive, I would have bought one already.
Check online companies that are in USA there are a few. They buy in bulk from China mark it up a little not much still a great deal. And they cut out the headache of dealing with International shipping normally its shipped right from a warehouse in USA sometimes it comes from a port if its a hot item or a rare item and they dont have it in stock but be sure to ask where its shipping from. If it comes from a port tell them you want free shipping or a discount cause it will take longer
Thank you for this series you've done. I know it was supposed to be just one video but you've probably saved a lot of people a lot of heartache and headaches (as it didn't sound easy to import in the first place). Funny enough I found your video about 6 months ago, I have a 1000cc bike, but I was in the market for a cheap electric bike for fun around locally and to work. If I hadn't found your video I probably would have been scammed much like you were so thank you so much.
I love how you handled the situation
I’m never ever EVER going to buy from Chinese company in the future again .
Another customer not buying their bike! Looking elsewhere
I'm looking for an electric bike. Thanks for this video, i will not be scammed by these people.
Glad to help and good luck!
This isn't uncommon for Chinese operations. It's far safer to deal with an intermediary.
Its safer to buy locally!
Yes its safer to buy at a store. BUT using a site like power sports or saferwholesale to buy "cheap" China doll bikes dropped at your door is 99% safe lol at worst you may get a different color than picked or some damage from shipping but both things are handled fast it is best to unbox right away with driver still there. The company are in USA.. And sometimes there is a few week wait for papers c.o.o with saferwholesale SOMETIMES.. I've order over 40 bikes scooters dirtbikes mopeds motorcycles longest wait was 5weeks 2 for the bike another 3 for papers worse issue handlebars were not packed but i got them 2days later after calling and they sent me a free upgraded helmet and gloves (upgraded cause bike came with a free set 2nd was better)
And price isn't that much more than buying straight from China like that 2,500 bike might be 3,300 with shipping
I think you ought to tear it down and show your fans what they sent you
@@Hoover111162 He did......
I think they have purchase agents for dealing with Chinese enterprises. Always deal through them, not directly with the company. That’s the best safeguard against being scammed. You don’t know what its like in China and you need to protect your hard earned money.
Anyone who doesn’t use a reputable purchase agent is a fool.
Note to self: “Don’t buy from China.”
I just wish this country never signed a deal with the devil and have so much of our products coming from them...
I would not be so broad. There are both good and bad sellers in every country.
th-cam.com/video/L3tnH4FGbd0/w-d-xo.html
You struggle to find any tech thats not in part or full 'Manufactured in China' , Also, you need to understand the DNA of the Nation- it is their nature to cheat or get one over on you- To fail in that principle shows a personality weakness! Truthfulness is a weakness.
Or don't tell yourself that you can have an electric sportsbike for 1500 bucks
Nothing new. Im working with China 10years, this is common thing
Their power comes in numbers not in quality, losing large numbers of resources cost them far less then their enemy. If the enemy takes out 10 subs on every one they lose they will still win. Zerg rush ftw
You were DP'd in 6 versions for sure! Really sorry about your luck. Online shopping is such a gamble but it's our present and future. I'll be sending an email from Canada for you. Hopefully this series builds more traction and steamrolls this company. Nobody deserves this!
For sure, thanks for the feedback!
Thanks for sharing. I found your page when I started looking for an electric bike!!
Thank you, I was so close to purchasing. You saved me my hard earned $$$,
Alibaba won’t do anything at all for you. They protect their sellers
Glad you got the views at least. I watched this from the beginning as I was interested in the same bike. After watching this last video I just uninstalled Alibaba. Thankfully there's plenty of good electric motorcycle and scooter companies coming out in America.
Yep!
I’m so happy that you put this video out about this company..because I was going to buy a bike for me and the girl friend.. I save my self from being scammed, buy researching this video.. hope they learned their lesson and do you right.. because you do got a lot of viewers.. I do love the technology. so thank you and hope it all turns out good for you.
This whole series is infuriating. I keep hoping that the next video will be positive, but in typical scammer fashion they just provide the bare minimum of promises to keep the conversation going in the hopes that you stop responding. It's quite textbook now that I think of it.
Also: those photos look like basic stock photos, and I wouldn't rule out the possibility that it's just one person with multiple (fake) online personas just to make the scam dissipate faster. Frustrating.
Good for you for taking the moral high road and not trash talking this seriously-disreputable company.
Thanks for this bro! I was so close to ordering one! This video saved me, keep making these helpful vids, we really appreciate it!
Had a cousin who got scammed by a guy in Italy for some old car parts. Never scam an international car buyer, they will come to your house and watch as their assistants beat you till you give them your entire business.
I was just about to buy one from them until I decided to do more research and found your videos. Thanks!
Having worked with chinese manufacturer, most of the names of the people are fake. Even sometimes one guy responds with different names and designation. Often company goes bankrupt in a few months after scamming a bunch of people. Totally legal.
That's what I was saying! Same company different name. Same employees different names.
The rule of law is very weak and protection against unscrupulous business practices is non existent. Do business with the Chinese at your own risk. You can’t be sure of anything going on over there and the websites are full of deception. Caveat Emptor!
Thank you for exposing these scammers! Good job brother hope they keep losing sales forever!
Thank you bro I was on my way to order the same bike from the same company I won't make that mistake thank you for your informative videos I knew these guys were scammers from the get-go
I was actually going to buy 50 bikes, great video. Never going to do business with China 🇨🇳. a company should be internationally held responsible for all items they sell.
If this guy treats YOU this way, with all the exposure online...imagine how he treats ordinary customers!
Yikes 😬
@@TheInja I can't believe they wouldn't just send you a whole new correct bike just to get you to post a resolution video that they made it right.
@@troyg3831 right? You'd think
Thanks for the heads. I was just about to order a bike from this company, but after hearing the testimony from you I will have to place my order from another company. 😨
You should tell them: I will delete videos if you send me parts to upgrade this bike OR send me the bike i payed for.
No, they will just keep scamming people if he does that. Companies need to be held accountable.
Bozz Connelly no, he should do that! Scamming a scammer is not bad. They will feel the pain of getting scammed.
He could be like the Chinese by saying he will and then just lying once he has the parts 🤷🏼♂️
What he said ☝🏽
You should tell them that u have the ability to approach the FTC and econsumer.gov with your videos and convocations with 3 people in their company that prove fraudulent activity and if they do not refund the full price then you will report them and continue to share your experiences on every popular social media platform and continue to work the legal system to insure this dosent happen to anyone else
Thank you so much for all the effort you went to making these vids, please don't take them down as I was looking at a product on their site which of course I won't be proceeding with now nor will I shop at their other store.
I'm sorry you were scammed, it leaves a bad taste. 😕
I was looking to buy "few" electric scooters, buy hey, thanks for tipping us off !
The higher end model won’t meet the speed/distance either. Not possible.
SO TRUE! LOL! So true! The motor will say 8,000 or 10,000 watts & it will only be HALF of what it is supposed to be at the most!
They lost a big deal with me, I was going to spend over 100k but going to find a dealer in Japan I have had great experience with them.
Good call! Glad to help
Thank you. I am sorry you got dragged through such a bad experience, but you saved me from proceeding with making a purchase from this company.
So glad i see this my company was going to buy 20 units off these people thnks for sharing 👍🏻
I bought 3! My stories are here on TH-cam. But I paid more for mine. & I went for the fill upgrades! STILL disputing with Alibaba even though the company's sales man (SAME COMPANY) Andy Jiang (his real mame) admitted that there were defects & evidence proving that one of the motorcycles were the WRONG one & then some! Alibaba STILL HASN'T just given me my money or parts back. They keep allowing the company to try & play me. Good thing I'm not broke huh??
I'm sorry you had to go thru this experience losing this much money. I'm so glad I have gotten taken care from Alibaba when a seller goes MIA on me. But might be because I have never gotten something so expensive as you
Yeah, same. Strange they didn't help me on this one.
I was so close to going with something like this as a cheap commuter bike and I'm so glad I saw these videos and just went with an old ninja 250 instead.
So happy I saw this video. I was going to pay for the new bike. But I will look for different supplier now. Than you for posting your videos
Inja, you are pretty much spot on when it comes to the cultural differences. In many Asian/Oriental cultures, in addition to honor and shame, a big part of their culture is face, or--more precisely--losing face; this is especially true in business.
I'm going to lay odds that none of the three reps have ever apologized, or said they're sorry. (I've worked in call centers for 15 years; if I had a nickel for each time I sincerely apologized or said I was sorry, I think I'd be able to buy that company you're dealing with, and STILL have money left over.) If you can somehow word things so it doesn't sound like they've lost face, you might be able to get further.
I'm glad you're sticking by your guns, and not taking down the videos. I'm also glad that you're willing to do a video when--and IF--they make it right.
This guy is right, Inja. You're not communicating with them properly. You've been scammed. Ok. Now, their turn. If you can appeal to them in the same way that "makes them tick" you might be able to manipulate a promising outcome....
It's amazing how the universe works, I was looking to buy an electric bike and I just stumbled across your inja site, to which I have subscribed, thanks again.Don from Australia
I looked at their website,
Those different photos of staff etc.. , It's likely the same person, there is no website other than an alibaba presence , Alibaba know absolutely that most of the sellers are false.
The addresses are residential areas and the phones are mobiles.
Wow. Even two years later, this video was usefull for me. Thank you so much for the update. I was right about to order an OEM version of a Alrendo TS Bravo motorcycle from this exact company. Thanks to your video I didn't. You paid the price, but you saved us by sharing your poor experience. All those filthy chinese suppliers need to be exposed like you did. Bless you.
Thanks for the advice, I was planning to buy an electric bike from them
Thanks for these videos. That bike looks really cool. I would have been suckered right into this.
I can really recomend the Super Soco Ts1200R, I've had mine for a while and im really happy with it
Are you Andy, Jason or JoJo?
@@glennmcc64 No?
Thank you for this video series, I was planning to buy this bike from them when I saw your videos.
I have my credit card company file a dispute, get my refund and let the credit card company deal with them. Seems like you do things the hard way?
hawaiielite he wouldn’t be able to make all these videos if he did things the easy/right way.
@@motluv I'd STILL make them!
He waited five months for delivery of the motorcycle. By then the window for filing a claim with a credit card company will have closed, often it's ninety days. If a product is late arriving I tell the seller I am going to file a claim with the credit card company, ebay, Alibaba, etc. because the claim window is close to closing. I usually get a refund then without asking for one. This shows they don't have the product to ship.
USARAY1947 yep! I imagine this video series made him more money than the cost of the motorcycle. Good for him; that is how this thing works. Just think if he gets an email reply. No money
thank you for exposing this scammer
keep putting up videos bro we all need to know whats going on,we don't want others getting traped in this mess.
Glad to see you're maintaining the high road on this. It's be easy to curse them out or get vulgar over this, but at the end of the day you keeping your cool is why I continue to follow this story, that and hoping to see you modify this bike into something worth owning. Frankly after a certain point of fixing it up with replacement parts (controller, motor, batteries, or maybe even tires) I'd think you might be able try registering it as a home built bike (like you ordered something from them and used it for parts like the frame and plastics).
That's the plan!
You did not get scammed, that is normal business practice when desling with them.
Pretty much!
hes a scam him self
Thank you bro! I was thinking of buying a electric bike from China but I changed my mind.
They can forget my purchase of 30 units now
I'm glad I found your video. I had planed on purchasing 2 units . There is nothing worst then lack of communication . And dishonesty. Thank you ! Hope you get it taken care of
First love the vid man good luck 👍🏻
Bro I’m so glad I saw that They changed their name I was about to order from that company. You’re saving a lot of people money.
Almost bought one, not after watching this. F scammers...
Great job! Im supportive of how you handled the situation.
i have also bought a bike " Mini Racing Motorcycle Model M3 with EEC Certificate " from Wuxi Saichi Vehicle Industry Ltd., Co and from andy wu.. in this moment im wirteing with now hehe
i have had it for almost 2 years now 2018-08-21
and the battery needs to be testet more , i was also not happy with the range in the beginning but it got better and better... but LEAD-ACID is shit ! i got spammed there i tought i got the LITHUIM
I was looking to buy an electric bike to use for commuting to work and I'd looked at this company but then I came across your video's and have decided to stick with my gas powered bikes. Thanks for helping me keep from getting scammed and I hope that you eventually get the situation resolved but you probably won't. There's a company in southern cali that sells a chinese made gas powered bike and the bike is a CSC or something like that. You might want to contact them and see if they can or are willing to help.
If you purchased with a credit card you can dispute the purchase and they’ll reimburse you and reverse charges .
Scammers know this and they tell you they won’’t accept credit cards and they reject PayPal. They always want you to send them a wire which can’t be reversed by your bank.
Then they have you cold. That should be a red flag. Run in the other direction if they insist on a cash only deal. Scammers aren’t concerned about their customers, they just want to take your money with no concern about whether you benefit from the transaction. Best word of advice is to stay clear of them!
Thank You For Making This Video. I Will Be Sure To Stay Far Away From This Company Unless They Help You.
The bikes done at this point, only angle you have is putting a price on taking vids down. Shame someone has to get bitten before people know a company's crap
Thanks for the Video.. I will NEVER by from this Company. It feels like a big SHAM. Thanks You. :-)
It sounds like you need to go through a Paypal type service, where they don't get paid until you get what you ordered.
Thanks for the info. Never buying from that manufacturer.
sounds like someone fell for the banana in the tailpipe
Wow you just saved me I was looking into buying one of these electric motorcycles...
Have you reverse image searched anything on that company's website.
Like, the profile pictures?
Well now.....aren't you smart.👌
@@armonnykelley1838 I'm not sure whether you're being facetious or not.
Thank god I found this video...was ordering 3 different models and cancelled the order before paying for it. Fewft!
Tell them that you are going to fly over to see them personally. See how that goes down with them.
I'll give it a shot 😏
I’ve always wondered about buying from Alibaba.. thanks for reminding me to stick with known companies to deal with.. saving a few bucks at the end of the day is not worth if you end up having to spend hours tracking people just to get the run around. Great info.. I’m a new subs.
You’ll almost always get scammed if you buy electronics from China/alibaba
At this point I will just look for someone here in the US to do the upgrades. That way at lease you don’t lose the whole bike. Am sure there are many companies or persons that will get you that bike running really fast.
I build gas bikes, and I was totally interested in one of these bikes...not anymore!
Same here bro...
Thank you for making that video. I will never spend big money on Alibaba or Chinese good after seeing such garbage business.
Reason why you leave the electric vehicles to Elon Musk 😂 even thou he messed up the truck style 😅
@@AdjectivesRGreaterThanPronouns and a touch of aston martin bulldog and lagonda i think.
Messed up the truck style? Its engineering perfection (almost). Geez, people are stupid, only cares about how it looks.... :)
How did he mess up when he designed it exactly the way he wanted it to be? He didn't design it for you he designed for him and for the people that know when they see something that's worth having. Somebody messed up designing your brain! 😂
Agreed. The Cybertruck is a kindergarten art project. There is no reason for it to be bulletproof and for it to have the thick metal it has for outer panels. Body parts will be only available from one place and be extremely expensive. So I do think it will meet the same fate as the Delorean. Some hype, some purchases, very small group that think it is a good vehicle BUT ultimately it will bomb.
Great to know. I've been following because and this is a great video to help others avoid getting scammed
66th Rule of Acquisition: NEVER trust Chinese merchants much less Chinese machinery...
That's the best answer i have ever seen.you have just made my day 👍 love from England
@@richardoneill1965 Live Long And Prosper, my man!
you should put the company name and listing name on the title of these videos so that someone searching on google can find them easily using the google search.. please do this for all bike lovers
list the company name thank you sir for the good video saved me from Africa a huge loss but it took me 48 hours worth of searching to get to this.
That's the price wen buying from China
You get a good deal or you get crap
@DJI Ireland I buy from alliexpress aswell I've found they are really good only problems I've hand is it takes forever to get hear and I've only had afew things break in the past but I was refunded
I also wont spend over a certain amount their becase it's to risky
Should buy on the end customer website that is aliexpress, alibaba is only good to buy wholesale, and you better go visit the company and deal with them in china directly to make sure they don't ship crap...
@@tiloalo you won't be able to tell unless you stay in China until it ships.
@@armonnykelley1838 yes, that's why ompany/importer usually have someone on site checking the shipment.
Thank you for doing the video....keep it up it really helps us out.
I can see a new video coming “ so I went to China” do it !!!
Visit the warehouse in person 😆
That's class. what a video that would be.
HELL YEAH!!!!!!!!!!🤣🤣👌🙌🏽🍷🤣🤣👌
That's the 10 million viewer vid man, do it!!!
They are definitely worth it if you are shipped the correct bike, my brother just got an 8000w R3 model with a 72v40ah lithium battery from Wuxi Stanford in like 2 1/2 months, it's look turns heads, is whisper quiet and a blast to ride, got up to 40 at half throttle while it's only been ridden halfway down the street and back since it not registered, I personally ride an FZ07 so the lack of any torque on takeoff(feels like riding in 3rd gear) and noise feedback caught me off guard at first but at I'd buy one as a commuter as it is a quick nimble 200lb bike, and can easily overtake cars. The 8000w feels equivalent to a 150cc-250cc, Inja most likely got a 3000w that probably feels like a 50cc
Why dont you just make your own bike bruh
Mostly because I don't have enough time or knowledge. Lots of subscribers are willing to help me, but it's a lot of work and I can't focus on it right now. :)
We need a list of reputable companies that also build fairly decent E-motos.
Imagine the boost for their business if they had actually sent what you ordered and it was a decent bike? Free worldwide marketing and now they accomplished the exact opposite. Haha
You need to remember they are new to Capitalism. They have done an amazing job at developing but they need another 10 years understanding economics of consumer market.
Thank you for the heads up. I wanted a electric bike and considered buying from them. After watching your videos, I will not! No way! I'm buying a different one.
Good choice 👌🏽
rofl, it's funny to see you talk about it like a westerner. As someone living here in China, I'll tell you that you are being crazy naive about it. There isn't some huge company with customer service individuals. There is some dude that speaks English that is just an agent selling these bikes. You are thinking it is some large company focused on delivering amazing products. No, he's not going to help you. He never intended to help you. You are talking about destroying reputations and things. They don't care. I've seen companies close, and re-open 2 days later with a different name here, in the same building and everything. You are thinking like a westerner "If you fix it right, you will have views from me!" rofl bro, Chinese people are short term business thinkers. They think about making money, right now, this very second. You already gave them money. There is no faster model. There is no longer range model. They lie about those types of things here. Even the delivery guys with HUGE bikes here don't go that fast. They aren't going to send you anything, to make anything right. Because Chinese people are hella cheap. It sucks you got scammed, but honestly, just file a credit card complaint. Be done with it, they will deal with it. Sounds like you have lots of evidence to give them.
Thank you brother!! From the bottom of my heart. My dad and I were literally about to order 4 of these upgraded ones (me, dad, brother, and my girl). Im not 100% sure if it's from the same company, probably was considering it was the same "base model" and "upgraded version." Don't care either way, I'm not ordering this bike or any other bike from Alibaba after seeing this shit. Even if the bike is cool, it's the principle of the thing.
There idiots and that’s one reason why stuff such as this shouldn’t be made there. And it doesn’t look like your going to get you parts what such scammers thanks for the content
Exactly
He needs to report them to the FTC (fedral trade commission) they handle things like this and it got so bad with aliexpress Alibaba and others www.econsumer.gov/ was made to fast track things! More people force accountability the safer it becomes for a consumer to buy internationally
Holy shit man! Get a grip on your spelling/ grammar.!! Their, you're, your...........
I got lucky buying hybrid batteries for my honda civic and insight from a seller in Alibaba. Very responsive seller. But many chinese are sneaky, don't trust them. Not all asians are same. I'm Korean. We are very different from sneaky spying Chinese. I really enjoy your videos. I just found your channel today and subscribed