Just saw the clx700 and 300ss at my local Honda. It is buttoned up. Outshines everything else on the showroom floor. Really blew me away after test riding it.
Bingo!!! Honestly a App is nice but really not needed... Use your smart phone and be done with it.... Who cares about the color screen or display.. again does little for the bike... is is reliable and can i get parts for it? That should be the main concern not the color screen....Will it take the abuse of a daily rider of 150 miles a week for years? I just don't think it can be trusted "YET".
They are releasing a 450 SR today here in the Philippines. CF Moto is growing more and more here, parts are getting easier to access and there are a lot of service centers opening. It’s pretty much a good buy here since known brands are so much more expensive. But I understand in the US, the market for this is low, hence parts availability, service and all that stuff will be difficult. So I think that in the US before this brand clicks it’s going to take years.
I recently bought a 300NK myself and have yet to find anything I don't like about it. Having not been on a bike of any kind in around 15 years it has been super easy to get on and get back in the swing of things. It is well built, has a ton of great features for the price, has just the right amount of nice smooth power and handles very well. I will agree that it's not the same as the bigger names, but it is perfect for what I bought it for. Planning on passing it down to my son when he is ready to get on two wheels and I am absolutely confident that he will love it just as much as I do. Definite cudos to CF-Moto.
CFMoto has already proven itself in some countries and also built good reputation. I also owned a 400cc from the brand and didn't have any issues with it. Build quality is nice, performance is awesome and it is cheap to maintain. The only thing that they should think about is to withstand the test of time, just like the Japanese brands did post WW2.
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@@Blakezilla594 stating facts is different from simping. I just have the guts and funds to try different brands instead of glorifying the norms. If you never got a chance to try the brand (i know you never will) just shut the hell up.
A couple things I’ve found while researching cfmoto: 1) they offer a lot on the spec sheet. 2) the build quality of the 700cl-x sport seemed good except for the switches - they looked brittle. 3) some insurance didn’t recognize cfmoto vin numbers ( 2 months ago ) and so insurance to register might be a problem 3) past cfmoto products had a problem with pre-mature wear- replacement parts are cheap - but everyone was in China - none of the repair stories came from outside of China - so parts might be an issue. What I love the most about cfmoto - it will put pressure on some Japanese brands to offer more features- like how they refuse to put cruise control on motorcycles less than 10k.
Regarding the VIN, I registered an Alibaba special, and when I went to insure it, I just pointed the agent at the web page I bought it from. That gave them everything they needed, which is pretty much just horsepower, torque, and whether it has abs
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I can confirm that the build quality of a 700CL-X Sport is really good and the switches are really good as well, the motorcycle school I'm at currently has them as learner motorcycles and they're so good - super easy to maneuver and according to the teachers they're low maintenance - I was looking to get one myself, however, I think I'll still go with a Kawasaki Z series or a Yamaha MT series (used) purely because they're cheaper second hand and I'm gonna drop my first bike at some point, so might as well drop something cheaper.
On paper I like a lot of it, but 29hp seems criminally underpowered even in that class. Peoples largest complaint about the Honda Cbr300r was that it was underpowered - and it actually made slightly more power than this. I race an rc390 and have owned both a cbr250r and a cbr300r (albeit no track time on either of those) and just feel like 29hp is too low for the class even at the price point.
This is probably great for entry/starter riders. Great price for it's value. Looks really good, like a cross between Yamaha rear, Honda or Ducati front, and clean side fairings. Not bad.
FINALLY a company says "let's not put a ridiculous super-size exhaust on this bike that we know EVERYONE is going to replace." Finally, someone put some thought into the rear brake lights and integrated rear turn signals instead of some stupid things that stick out a foot on each side. While this "new" company may take a while to become easier to find parts for.... at least it will force the other major players to step-up their game. Kawasaki already has the automatic transmission.... if they put that on a beginner bike they would dominate the market.
long term idk, mid term (around 10 years) is actually good. that brand has been being sold in europe and well, the rest of the world for years. they started with the nk650 and 400.
I have one. I waited for 6months due to very high demand and the price is nothing comparable to the other motorcycles. My Cfmoto nk400 is already more than a year and my daily driver but still runs so smooth 🤤
Bought the 300ss a month ago and loving it! Great for just getting around, to and from work and at 83mpg you can’t go wrong! However, trying to find a better exhaust system has been difficult, since they are so new to the US. But, give it time as with any new product.
I was looking into these bikes but honestly the mt-03 is a $500 more and you get 11 more HP and the Yamaha name. The larger bikes the 650 Adventure, 650nk, and 700cl-x are a very good deal and might be a good replacement for the 600cc - 700cc range of bikes. I think the 300Nk should be $500 cheaper to compete with the smaller bikes of the big 4.
Just make the bike RAW and keep it simple...they have to shave about $150 off the BOM to reach that $3500 price point... I don't know where they can cut, LCD screens are cheaper than old tech.... I am an engineer and I know that old displays can cost more than a LCD screen... they make millions of those screens in china.
@@johnjay6370 monochrome lcd in place of the full color tft display isn't cheaper?! Shoot tell ktm they're not saving money on the duke 200 screen over the 390s
@TNT VIDEOS that's not exactly a quality issue. Have you looked at the duke 390/svarpilen 401? I got a used 2017 2 years ago for $3100 with 3000 miles on it. I'm 6'1" and fit well otherwise a dual sport is the only tall cheap bike.
They are releasing a 450 SR today here in the Philippines. CF Moto is growing more and more here, parts are getting easier to access and there are a lot of service centers opening. It’s pretty much a good buy here since known brands are so much more expensive. But I understand in the US, the market for this is low, hence parts availability, service and all that stuff will be difficult. So I think that in the US before this brand clicks it’s going to take years.
I would personally spend the extra cash for a big name bike like Honda or Yamaha simply for the dealer network and parts if/when this thing breaks down.
@@chriswooster801 It means I prefer to buy less Chinese products, not more. And I'd rather buy a Japanese bike than support the Chinese economy. Here are a few reasons why: development of Covid virus at Wuhan institute of virology, deadly fentanyl smuggling into the US both directly and through Mexico, imprisonment and torture of innocent Falun Gong practitioners, aggressive actions against US/Australia in South China Sea, military threats to Taiwan and US, etc.
@@opetmalugaming still Chinese. Get fckd. Stop simping for Chinese products Stop simping for Chinese products Stop simping for Chinese products Stop simping for Chinese products Stop simping for Chinese products Stop simping for Chinese products
Thanks Im not doing KTM either then I don't support China I don't get people they gave us covid-19 but buy from China it already hard being everything's made in China I'll admit its a good looking bike
No just your pictures, contacts, and anything else on your phone. The bike data should be completely safe, until someone figures out how to hack the GPS and come pick it up in the middle of the night, strip it completely and dump it somewhere else.
@@AmritGrewal31 but it can't beat a TV's rr310 or bmw 310 or Duke's 390 or ninja 300 re ninja 400 cbr300 250 rr yamaha re Mt 03 mt250 even ... Only suzuki 250 may b .. still better
My cfmoto 300nk is honestly the next choice I've made. It's my first bike so it's not too much and just enough bike to keep me happy The tech is has on it is honestly great too. 10/10 bike so far My only complaint would be it's pretty hard to find cosmetics made specifically for it
I actually own the Philippines variant of this. What I would only change on the bike is the wind screen because wind protection is literally non-existent but everything else is great
Literally just bought a CFMOTO 300ss 2 months ago same color as in the video, great beginner bike I absolutely love it. But unless your ordering it to be delivered to your house and you assemble it from the crate, your paying about another $1,000 from whatever dealer you buy it from after taxes and all it was a little over $6,000 for me. Love your videos keep up the great work.
My friend that I grew up in China with got one of these cfmoto sportsbike for 20k cny (3k usd) couple years ago and had 20000 miles on it. I was kinda surprised when he told me this bike is Chinese cus when I was a kid most of the Chinese motorcycles I saw looks like old design and I hardly ever seen a modern looking one, and this one looks kinda cool.
This is the first time I can actually say that a video on this channel sounds like one big ad! Please don't sell out Yammie! Your channel is known for being opinionated but impartial.
🤣 That's all Yammie does! I'm glad they do. I would be lost being so ignorant to riding. Yammie is the lighthouse in the ocean of all these bikes/stiles ect. He has taught a noob like me a great deal. He doesn't hide his biases and gives credit when it's due. Not I drove this bike buy it, I love this brand buy it. I still don't have a bike but I will next year. Pappa Yam is the Encyclopedia Britannica of bikes. Wich volume I can't say. There are other great content creators out there that make the who set. There is nothing wrong with "hey check this out" and people like it. Its new/different. Gotta see it sooner or later.
LOOOLLL!! You haven't seen all the shilling they've done for the Husqvarna Vitpilen/Svartpilen bikes? 🤣🤣🤣 They aren't unbiased at all when a company pays them to say good things. Not to say those bikes are bad per se, but they certainly aren't the pinnacle of motorcycling that literally every single of their videos on the topic would suggest. Plenty of downsides that are ignored. I actually called them out on this, and they replied weakly once, attempting to convince me "oh no, we actually like the bike more than any bike on the planet!", and when I pointed out some of its flaws they ignore, they stopped replying. 🙄 Impartial, indeed.
@@joshisajedi2461 Calling out hypocrisy/unjustified bias/epic shilling when practically every other review was categorically more honest and fair is complaining now? Okay. 🤪🙄
Yammie is *never* not biased, every video either he praised *or* trash a motorcycle brand. This is literally his style. And there's no such thing as unbiased review when people involved. But if you want *less* bias, Motorcycle Magazine and the successor Revzilla should be better, or FortNine if you want more snark. (Sidenote, avoid Srkcycles in this regard for obvious reason)
I'm from LATAM and I've been eyeing/researching this bike since december of last year. It's a beautiful machine, but they're still working out some kinks. Even still, the value is excellent for what you get (bluetooth, app, leds, abs on both tires, eco and sport mode, fuel mileage, etc etc). Keep in mind, the 300sr (single-cylinder) won't beat out an R3 (twin-cylinder): there are videos online. I think the bike is geared more towards east asian and latin markets because there aren't a a lot of highways in those countries and traffic is bumper to bumper, as opposed to the US where you have expansive highways and 400 to 600ccs are better suited to those conditions. As a beginner bike though, I think it's perfect.
It will be interesting once they bring the 400cc over. I have to agree after test riding some. They feel lack luster with the under powered single thumper. Not useful for the US market.
Which LATAM Country? I'm curious about the availability "down south" for this and also dual sport or off road bikes. I have a place in 🇨🇷 and new/used dual sports from the Big 4 manufacturers are extremely expensive due to import taxes. But... I have seen very cheap Chinese bikes available at WalMart for ~$2500. Just waiting to see how they hold up long term. Maybe 2020's China is the new 1970's Japan when it comes to quality... "not quite there YET but Up & Coming?"
...said no Rider ever. @@JessicaSimonson1976 stick to 50cc scooters. The rest of us enjoy bikes that have just enough throttle to slightly scare us, but not enough to kill us while we grow into them. My 1133cc, 69cu in, 100hp V-Twin can't hear you... all it hears is BRAAAAAP! lol 😆
Been following your channel for a while now. Wanted my first bike and didn't know what to get till I saw the 450SR couple months ago. Now I'm waiting patiently for it to arrive to US.
Just bought a CFMoto 300nk. Love this bike!! Super fun bike to ride around turns or just makes your commute so much more enjoyable!! Don’t sleep of this company! Amazing bike!!
Naah man its from from a ethics standpoint, almost every motorcycle made by them is a copy in terms of design elements and its a Chinese company so pretty sure their companion apps or even the bike would store info and send it to Bejing. This is obviously my take and it seems its a solid bike because Josh clearly has good things to say.
Here in Australia I have a CF Moto 650MT. It's my first bike, and I love it. But I'd probably love anything first time out. But friends of mine who ride, and have looked it over are very impressed.
Got this bike about a week ago, put almost 400 miles on it, and as a first time rider here’s my thoughts so far- 1) Gas mileage is outstanding. Almost 400 miles and I’ve only put in about 4-5 gallons 2) Electronics are nice, but leave much to be desired. It’s nice I can see directions, but there’s no map. It’s nice I can see who’s calling, but I can answer or end it so I can get back to my music. Gonna end up getting a quad lock to mount my phone. It is nice I can use it to diagnose any problems and can check little things like gas and daily miles on it 3) Power band and brakes are great and easy to adapt to so I don’t mess myself up. Only thing that I would improve is that the clutch lever is a bit wobbly and I had to dramatically tighten up the throttle, but it’s a cheap bike so you get what you pay for 4) handling and suspension have not had any issues 5) I’ve hit speeds up to 90 mph so it can easily get you around 6) It looks great. I’m gonna end up removing the awful CFM sticker, but other than that the accent lines are fine. Only other thing I would do is change the green to red at some point All in all I’m happy with this bike as my first bike. I can definitely see myself growing out of it pretty quickly, but as an economic commuter it is great. I might be sending my data to Papa Pooh in China but let’s be honest, he’s already gotten my info from somewhere else probably.
Pooh don't care about your data, no value to them, they want your money for sure. However, The big 4 will now have to work a lot harder since Pooh is on their asses. I do know uncle Sam is very afraid of Pooh, therefore starting smear campign against the Pooh king.
Idk if I'd risk it with a chinese bike... Korean maybe but chinese idk. China knows how to make something cheap look good when it isn't. We'll see how they hold up in time
I would love to see a review of each of the CF Moto bikes! Their price point is fantastic as long as you compare what else is available in the class in the price categories. If you compare them to other big brand bikes of the same CC, you’ll be left wanting for more. End state, ignore the CC and look at options in the price range, fantastic bang for your buck!
I remember being sceptical about the brand too but after looking at the MT650 for more than a year, I came to the conclusion it's price is unbeatable, so I took one. Result? More than happy with it. It works great 👍🏻 I recommend you try one for yourself.
Here in Europe, CF Moto Is actually pretty competitive, cheap, but actually nice - build quality Is Nice, tech is great, etc. Overall, noone knows, if they will last, but they seem to be JUST good enough.
@UCP9JX2G7MoyxeHmjzyCWDvQ yeah we usually disregard any ccp products in western Europe,🤤 if we can avoid ,as a boycot. It's probably worse since covid19🤣 The day China will do reliable stuff, Jesus will be back 😉
@@TheBandit7613 the app Is kind of "useless", but you Have to see IT as a bike for teenagers And youngsters - it Is a cool, modern, Sharp looking toy, that can cruise at 130 km/h řádily And can handle some sport and also touring stuff.
They've been here in Australia for a minute, but really started to make waves in 2012 with a photocopy of the Kawasaki 650 twins. I haven't tried it, but I'm sure every part on the CFMOTO 650NK will bolt straight on to my Kawasaki ER-6F. Go China! 😂 There's plenty of used ones for sale here, so they'll last longer than the warranty period, but there are 2 big issues with them: Power is down compared to an equivalent model from the Big Four. Resale value tanks compared to most other brands. They make some pretty good looking bikes, but need to work on their reputation & individuality. Price is a strong market mover, but it isn't everything.
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Most chinese bike outside of the partners tend to undertune their engines to compensate for quality control. If you check bikes from Haojue (which produces many Suzuki bikes for them) as well as Benelli, Sundiro and Wuyang Honda (yes there are two Chinese hondas) they all comes with Japanese quality and reasonable price (not cheap, but not full trim either)
Boys and Girls remember that much of Chinese industry is control by politicians and High ranking millitary leaders. So the money you send to China let's them build the weapons they WILL use against us.
Won't lie, if you're in the aussie market, these bikes are everywhere and there are a few dealers in most major cities that can service and repair and order parts.
about time you checked out CFmoto, i bought a 300nk as my first bike. and i'm loving it. If anybody from the Yammie crew is passing through NE ohio, i'll loan it to you to check out the naked version. I test rode the SS and widely prefer the NK model.
@@alesterpadua7884 the dealership i bought it from has all of the maintenance parts in stock and told me they can get stock replacements if anything gets damaged. CFmoto partnered with KTM for the engine and chassis, thats why they perform and kind of look like the dukes.
Hey, good job by the FNGs! Well presented and articulated. Give ‘em more work, Yam! That said, I’m avoiding anything Chinese until they become better partners on the world’s stage.
"better partners on the world's stage" - Well, i suppose that is one way to say stop Uyghur concentration camps, debt trapping developing countries, mass pollution, space colonization and subverting western society.
Ive had 2 Chinese vehicles. 1 was ok reliable 2nd was a POS. I would get either a Yam or a Honda for more or used for less. Also what you save is lost in resale value.
Guys i’m from china and i own one gsx 250 in china this type CF moto only have 250cc it sells great actually. Many friends owned and sell it already . why? buy it because it’s cheap in china (1627$),and it have apps good shape …sell it because compare with gsx 250 it’s not a good moto,it’s fast than gsx but the quality is not so good .especially when you own it over one year. so if I can chose it with R3 kawasaki 400 or KTM even Gsx 250,i wouldn’t choose CF
Remember when Fortnine did a video on OEM oil testing and the Chinese bike was so dirty it broke the lab equipment they used? I don't think the big four need to worry about that.
I love how young Americans can simultaneously rail against civil injustice in the US while praising products from China made by child laborers and Uyghur slaves.
It's worth noting that that was a single Chinese brand, of which there are MANY. They pointed out in the video that CF Moto has been making off road toys for years, and there seems to be a pretty good reputation formed among owners of those machines.
I recently visited a dealership that also stocked CF Moto. To me, they appeared to be stylish, well-made machines. Would I own one? Not sure yet, however I certainly wouldn't rule it out.
i personally wait for my CFMoto 450sr that i have preorder, to arrive in Cyprus around end October, beginning of November. It looks so good, the price is just perfect and the futures you get are more than anything else out there.
We should be doing everything we can to avoid Chinese products, especially for large purchases like vehicles, especially when there are great Japanese/European options for only slightly more
The problem is, even if you buy a European or Big Four bike, the odds are good that it'll have Chinese made parts, including engines, on them. For example, CFMOTO makes engines for KTM's 800 ADV bike; in fact, the factories are right across the street from each other in China.
@@markymarknj some Chinese parts is still better that the whole bike. Remember every mid/large Chinese companies are partly controlled by the Chinese gvt.
@@markymarknj Unfortunately China has it's hands in a lot of production, to the point that it's impossible to avoid it all, but a product with a Chinese part is a lot better than a fully Chinese product.
Bought 1 and we love the bike. Only issue we have had is the chain stretched at less than 300 miles, but the dealer fixed it free of charge. My wife is a beginner and loves it!
Living in Minneapolis and riding a cf moto Papio 125. Loving it so far, but would be nice if there was more aftermarket support or even just if shops carried stuff like the proper oil filter
@@Cabooseified well it's my first bike ever so I don't have much to compare it to. My friends who have more experience did complain about throttle hanging, but I found if you just crank it further than you think you need to, it gets really peppy
@@ronaldgomez330 I would look for another bike tbh. That one from my experience isn't good to learn on, after you get on to a 300 or any other bike you'll start to understand why the throttle response on that bike isn't good for a new rider. Really good way to develop bad habits. Not saying 125s are a bad bike to start with, it's just that one in particular.
The problem with a bunch of Chinese products is longevity. How will this bike hold up a year down the rode with a bunch of mileage? Are the tires junk? Are the brakes junk? Will the engine fail at a few thousand miles because of subpar metal in the components?
well they are 51 percent owner while ktm owns the other 49 percent of the company, and its been that way for a while apparently so its a chinese ktm thatd id be willing to bet would last just as long as any bike givin the correct owner adn maintenance im no moto dealer but i personally want either the papio or one of their small nakeds so roll around town when i dont feel like rolling the r6
There's one thing I'd add. If it's too good to be true, then it probably is. Why do you think they can afford to make it so cheap, and with all the tech? The answer is: because they cut corners with the quality of components. I don't even mean in relation to performance, but longevity, reliability and safety. It's easy to throw a bike together that looks nice (which it does), and has all the blitz and bling, but one thing demos like this don't show, is how it ages over a number of years. Fast forward 2 years and 5,000 to 10,000 miles, how much corrosion is there, What parts have needed replaced? Do the electronics still function, is the app still supported? TLDR: if you can afford to sell your product 20% cheaper than your competitors, and with better tech in your product, it's because you have made cost saving and quality reducing decisions. That money has to be saved somewhere.
The cost cutting was in labor. These 300SRs are old news. They're reliable enough, plus look too good and priced too cheap to basically threaten the big 4's asian grip on the 150cc sportbike segment. Yes, 150cc - they're so cheap their 300cc is nigh on the same price as a Honda CB150R and a Yamaha R15.
Exactly. When will these cheap basterds who keep buying Chinese crap bikes realize that your giving your money to a garbage country, meanwhile your bike is going to be in a landfill within 10 years. It's a complete lose - lose scenario for the consumer and a win - win for the manufacturer. STOP SIMPING FOR CHEAP CHINESE PRODUCTS
No, the cost cutting is in the scale of economy + quality control. You can have both which result in Honda pricetag. Otherwise you end up with Italian stallion, which have neither and end up expensive anyway.
@@victoriazero8869 the economy of scale point can be applied to Royal Enfield too They sell a huge volume of bikes annually, and even they apparently can't make bikes quite this cheap.
@@Chambers_90 Which means CFmoto cut corner somewhere, and it's very likely quality control. China labor is no longer cheap in 2020s. CF Moto most likely cut corners by detuning the motor and thus allow less rigid standard of quality.
As a CFmoto owner, because where I live it's a domestic bike and the imports from Japan at 4x the price of everywhere else... Don't buy it. I've had my 650GT for a little over a year, daily rider, 9,000kms. So, so, so many problems. The good: Designed by Kiska thanks to a KTM partnership. It has USB and 12v outputs. Comes with panniers. Continental ABS. J Juan brakes. The bad: Cylinder head assembly needed replacing at 5,500kms. The app is spyware (literally). Service intervals are short. Chain and sprockets both needed replacing every 4,000kms. Clutch center bearing needed replacing at 7,500kms. The dealership where I live is lazy and terrible. They don't ever fix a damn thing properly, warranty isn't worth anything. If Kawasaki, honda or Yamaha are a little more expensive than CFMoto where you live, then buy them. You get what you pay for in terms of quality. Don't be fooled by the gadgets they come with, remove the GPS tracker it comes with. Don't install the app.
I’ll say it does look good. Will it hold together as long as a Royal Enfield or will they both disintegrate at about the same time? This bike seems like the Tik Tok of motorcycles with the app. So just accept sharing all your data for all your apps and files with China. Otherwise, it looks like we’re beginning to see Papa Yam’s recession series of bikes the people can still afford to buy.
Wait, @7:59 thats not how a slipper clutch works. They allow the clutch to slip when you downshift and the wheel is spinning faster than the engine is.
I was wondering when I'd see some CFMoto content here. The dealership down the street got a bunch in, and I admit to curiosity: they're inexpensive, but are they cheap?
I’ve put 700 miles on my 300nk and it’s been fantastic. Gets between 70-100 mpg. Doesn’t have a problem on highway. Definatly recommended for new riders and experienced riders that want a cheap commuter bike.
We just passed 18 million excess deaths worldwide since the Chinese unleashed their humanized bat virus on the world. Maybe your girlfriend should think again about buying a Chinese bike.
@@pleasedontwatchthese9593 Gotta work your way up I guess. I'll take Josh and/or Whitney over Spite any day. Did you see that awful video he made on buying a bike privately vs from a dealer? Eurgh
I owned a CF Moto 250NK for 12 months as my starter bike. Bang for buck was good, reliable and fun as well. Exhaust tone was awful and gearbox could have had a taller 6th gear but otherwise good. Also looking at newer models in the showroom it appears they’ve upped the quality since 2018.
No reason at all to get this over a cbr300r. Why on earth would someone need a slipper clutch on a 300? I'll trade a slipper clutch, tft and a gps for Honda reliability any day and anyone considering this bike should as well.
I don't know the 300 but their mid cc bikes source the engines from KTM actually and they seem pretty reliable... It's time to broaden our horizons, Chinese bikes are actually pretty good
Well, you're automatically assuming this one is a piece of garbage. If it's even half way well made, some noob just starting off, may not have 5500, and to parents 4500 vs 5500 makes a lot of difference. The app is also a nanny control that many modern parents would pay money for. The slipper clutch is not what you buy this bike for. I'll never buy either, but here's all argument for either unless this proves unreliable.
@@FoByaH Yes, they are pretty good. The problem is that the small displacement market is already very competitive - why buy a KTM engine, inside a bike constructed in a chinese factory with chinese construction standards when you can pay almost the same price for a Japanese bike with a good pedigree? Not even mentioning the political aspect of buying from China. If these bikes were $1500 cheaper then they would be a good buy, but for $4,300 you can buy a great japanese bike new or a fantastic japanese bike used.
I have a 650 ADVentura and while I was looking to buy my bike I couldn't help but look at one of these, they had three had in the showroom....I'm a sucker for that paint scheme. I love the teal blue with the white. Looks sooooo good....if they offered the 650 ADVentura in that I would have gotten it
because no one of the big manufacturers have "stolen" anything from one of the others? And what research and development? The thumper, the forks, the brakes? The chinese have been making tfts for a long time.
More CFMoto please!!!! Love what this company is doing. Come in, undercut the competition. I don't care where it comes from, where they "stole" the design from, or some silly badging. Time will tell of reliability but CFMoto has a decent track record. Love that their coming in and knocking it out of the park and giving the consumer so much for their money. Look at their 700CL-X Sport... It's a $10,000-$11,000 bike from a big 4 brand. $7K from CFMoto. Love it love it love it. Things need to be inexpensive again!!
Hi yammie i am a beginner Rider i made my first "motorcycle" a put a 66cc 2 stroke engine on a bicycle and made it a "dirt bike"and i would like to share my story: I bought a motorized bicycle engine for 150 bucks and put it on a 300 dollar mountain bike it worked fine it was my baby it wasnt fast but it was loud because i removed the baffle from the exhaust it was FUN everyone looked at me when I was riding it and i had full gear Helmet gloves everything it was my daily but it was to good to be true i was riding it to school but I screwed up in the chain and the sprocket was off center the chain skiped the sproket hit the engine wall and it shatterd it than it the pieces hit the crankshaft and broke it the engine locked up and I draged my tire at 40 mph it wasnt fast but it feels fast because it was a deathtrap i bought a new crankshaft with more compression and put that one on the engine all by myself but a friend helped me make the gaskets it didnt run the engine had spark and fuel and compression but the damn thing wouldnt start and guess why the bigger crankshaft made the piston kiss the spark plug it was robbing spark so I went to the store bought a 1mm spacer put on the sparkplug and it fired right up after months trying . It ran for a week and broke down again :( now im just going to buy a 400cc ktm dirt bike in about 2 months or a suzuky im not sure wich one but it was a hell of a journey wish me luck Hey if you made it this far thanks for reading this is my story;)
What the hell is a motorized engine? A motor is electric. An engine uses a combustible fuel. Doubt I’d get on a machine built by someone that doesn’t know the difference.
The dealers will make sure to price this bike out of competition with used Japanese bikes. Sorry China,YOU LOSE. ( I already saw year old.brand new. Kaw Ninja 400's for sale for $4400 brand new this year)
The price point and styling definitely makes me want to see one in person. It may be a super fun weekend mini track bike too.
Just saw the clx700 and 300ss at my local Honda. It is buttoned up. Outshines everything else on the showroom floor. Really blew me away after test riding it.
Saw one in person and currently about to get a 300nk. Absolutely amazing looks and feels comfortable
Screw the apps and high tech baubles. Think parts and service availability. Will it be as reliable as a Yamaha or Honda ???
No 😂
spoilers: nope
Bingo!!! Honestly a App is nice but really not needed... Use your smart phone and be done with it.... Who cares about the color screen or display.. again does little for the bike... is is reliable and can i get parts for it? That should be the main concern not the color screen....Will it take the abuse of a daily rider of 150 miles a week for years? I just don't think it can be trusted "YET".
They are releasing a 450 SR today here in the Philippines. CF Moto is growing more and more here, parts are getting easier to access and there are a lot of service centers opening. It’s pretty much a good buy here since known brands are so much more expensive. But I understand in the US, the market for this is low, hence parts availability, service and all that stuff will be difficult. So I think that in the US before this brand clicks it’s going to take years.
It's a POS Chinese bike. They will never compete with the Japanese!
I recently bought a 300NK myself and have yet to find anything I don't like about it. Having not been on a bike of any kind in around 15 years it has been super easy to get on and get back in the swing of things. It is well built, has a ton of great features for the price, has just the right amount of nice smooth power and handles very well. I will agree that it's not the same as the bigger names, but it is perfect for what I bought it for. Planning on passing it down to my son when he is ready to get on two wheels and I am absolutely confident that he will love it just as much as I do. Definite cudos to CF-Moto.
Jump on the equivalent cb300 and you'll see there's basically no difference in power or quality
CFMoto has already proven itself in some countries and also built good reputation. I also owned a 400cc from the brand and didn't have any issues with it.
Build quality is nice, performance is awesome and it is cheap to maintain. The only thing that they should think about is to withstand the test of time, just like the Japanese brands did post WW2.
And you give a shit about an app?
I don't. Not unless it adds 10 hp.
No no no no no no no.
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Difference is, Japan post WWII is a free democracy.
China is a oppressive, totalitarian communist country.
@@Blakezilla594 stating facts is different from simping. I just have the guts and funds to try different brands instead of glorifying the norms. If you never got a chance to try the brand (i know you never will) just shut the hell up.
@@TheBandit7613 the bike that I got from CF Moto didn't have any apps in it tho. And I don't give a shit on what you think.
A couple things I’ve found while researching cfmoto: 1) they offer a lot on the spec sheet. 2) the build quality of the 700cl-x sport seemed good except for the switches - they looked brittle. 3) some insurance didn’t recognize cfmoto vin numbers ( 2 months ago ) and so insurance to register might be a problem 3) past cfmoto products had a problem with pre-mature wear- replacement parts are cheap - but everyone was in China - none of the repair stories came from outside of China - so parts might be an issue.
What I love the most about cfmoto - it will put pressure on some Japanese brands to offer more features- like how they refuse to put cruise control on motorcycles less than 10k.
Regarding the VIN, I registered an Alibaba special, and when I went to insure it, I just pointed the agent at the web page I bought it from. That gave them everything they needed, which is pretty much just horsepower, torque, and whether it has abs
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I can confirm that the build quality of a 700CL-X Sport is really good and the switches are really good as well, the motorcycle school I'm at currently has them as learner motorcycles and they're so good - super easy to maneuver and according to the teachers they're low maintenance - I was looking to get one myself, however, I think I'll still go with a Kawasaki Z series or a Yamaha MT series (used) purely because they're cheaper second hand and I'm gonna drop my first bike at some point, so might as well drop something cheaper.
I can say the switches are brittle .. they feel very refined and soft to the touch to be honest. Clutch is very tight on the wrist though
On paper I like a lot of it, but 29hp seems criminally underpowered even in that class. Peoples largest complaint about the Honda Cbr300r was that it was underpowered - and it actually made slightly more power than this. I race an rc390 and have owned both a cbr250r and a cbr300r (albeit no track time on either of those) and just feel like 29hp is too low for the class even at the price point.
I own one in Nebula Black! These bikes are killer! I love it and it rides amazing. Being 6’2 300 lbs, it still handles and rides smooth as butter
This is probably great for entry/starter riders. Great price for it's value. Looks really good, like a cross between Yamaha rear, Honda or Ducati front, and clean side fairings. Not bad.
That's what chinese do,COPY
FINALLY a company says "let's not put a ridiculous super-size exhaust on this bike that we know EVERYONE is going to replace." Finally, someone put some thought into the rear brake lights and integrated rear turn signals instead of some stupid things that stick out a foot on each side. While this "new" company may take a while to become easier to find parts for.... at least it will force the other major players to step-up their game. Kawasaki already has the automatic transmission.... if they put that on a beginner bike they would dominate the market.
I have the heritage 700clx and I use it to commute 64 miles round trip for work. I love the bike.
I’m curious to see how they’ll hold up long term. I’m still on the 4 Japanese bikes bandwagon:)
Long term is done, u have UK reviews ;)
I've still got a 1983 honda cb125rs in red and a 1982 xl250r how's that for long term these bikes last forever.
@@chrishart8548 he literally meant "long term" in regards to CF Moto bikes 🤣
@@Daumex well that's not long then.
long term idk, mid term (around 10 years) is actually good. that brand has been being sold in europe and well, the rest of the world for years. they started with the nk650 and 400.
If anything, the big four should take this bike as a compliment, since it's probably a combination of all four.
I have one. I waited for 6months due to very high demand and the price is nothing comparable to the other motorcycles. My Cfmoto nk400 is already more than a year and my daily driver but still runs so smooth 🤤
Bought the 300ss a month ago and loving it! Great for just getting around, to and from work and at 83mpg you can’t go wrong! However, trying to find a better exhaust system has been difficult, since they are so new to the US. But, give it time as with any new product.
A 450SS verison just released in China, she will come to US probably next year.
why dont u like the current exhaust?
@@crittedyouout573 honestly, to make the sound a little deeper.
That's the problem I have with the monkey and other aftermarket parts for it, after about a year more and more are available for it
Sensible review. Great decision, enjoy your riding.
of course the chinese bike has god tier tracking
I was just thinking that myself. The CCP has to collect data some how🤣
You are saying that like US government ever respected people's privacy lmao
I was looking into these bikes but honestly the mt-03 is a $500 more and you get 11 more HP and the Yamaha name. The larger bikes the 650 Adventure, 650nk, and 700cl-x are a very good deal and might be a good replacement for the 600cc - 700cc range of bikes. I think the 300Nk should be $500 cheaper to compete with the smaller bikes of the big 4.
Exactly I was thinking at $3500 even with less tech it'd sell far better.
Just make the bike RAW and keep it simple...they have to shave about $150 off the BOM to reach that $3500 price point... I don't know where they can cut, LCD screens are cheaper than old tech.... I am an engineer and I know that old displays can cost more than a LCD screen... they make millions of those screens in china.
@@johnjay6370 monochrome lcd in place of the full color tft display isn't cheaper?! Shoot tell ktm they're not saving money on the duke 200 screen over the 390s
@TNT VIDEOS oh yea? What should I be avoiding that's lost quality?
@TNT VIDEOS that's not exactly a quality issue. Have you looked at the duke 390/svarpilen 401? I got a used 2017 2 years ago for $3100 with 3000 miles on it. I'm 6'1" and fit well otherwise a dual sport is the only tall cheap bike.
They are releasing a 450 SR today here in the Philippines. CF Moto is growing more and more here, parts are getting easier to access and there are a lot of service centers opening. It’s pretty much a good buy here since known brands are so much more expensive. But I understand in the US, the market for this is low, hence parts availability, service and all that stuff will be difficult. So I think that in the US before this brand clicks it’s going to take years.
If they convince the European market with the 450SR it could be a rival for the Japanese. Will see if they disimbarc in Europe this autumn
time will tell my brother. affordable kasi kaya binibili
They sell a good number of side by sides in Canada, quads too. I’d not be a fan of the giant cell phone for a dash, nor the invasive tracking app.
They use ktm's engine
@@adamlanglois563 your love it if your bike got stolen though 😂
I would personally spend the extra cash for a big name bike like Honda or Yamaha simply for the dealer network and parts if/when this thing breaks down.
I agree, but it its people like us preventing competition in the market
@Tiz Kbir No he understands i reckon. What you dont seem to understand is that early adopters WILL pay the price, which he doesn't want to.
@Tiz Kbir he understands .. he just dont want to be the sucker who pays for it..
@@tizkbir8347 The consumer doesn't win in the long run if you keep accepting Chinese products.
That's a good looking bike, I like the sculpture, style and color of the body work.
Nice looking bike, good software and a good price. I just don't think I could buy a bike from China at this point in time. Good video guys, thanks.
wtf does that suppose to mean. Litereally everything you wear and use are made in China bruh
But CFMOTO makes the engines of KTMs too 🤷
@@chriswooster801 It means I prefer to buy less Chinese products, not more. And I'd rather buy a Japanese bike than support the Chinese economy. Here are a few reasons why: development of Covid virus at Wuhan institute of virology, deadly fentanyl smuggling into the US both directly and through Mexico, imprisonment and torture of innocent Falun Gong practitioners, aggressive actions against US/Australia in South China Sea, military threats to Taiwan and US, etc.
@@opetmalugaming still Chinese. Get fckd.
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Thanks Im not doing KTM either then I don't support China I don't get people they gave us covid-19 but buy from China it already hard being everything's made in China I'll admit its a good looking bike
Does it record my riding style and export the data to the ChineseOverlords too?
No just your pictures, contacts, and anything else on your phone. The bike data should be completely safe, until someone figures out how to hack the GPS and come pick it up in the middle of the night, strip it completely and dump it somewhere else.
At first I just laughed but when I heard it comes with a FREE APP THAT TRACKS GPS it gave me pause
@@Jonesy781 ikr
@@shadow105720 you want to remove the tech? But these 2, in the video, keep mentioning how it has more tech than the Honda & Yamaha 😄
@@AmritGrewal31 but it can't beat a TV's rr310 or bmw 310 or Duke's 390 or ninja 300 re ninja 400 cbr300 250 rr yamaha re Mt 03 mt250 even ... Only suzuki 250 may b .. still better
As soon as Josh started ripping I was like “hope that cop isn’t under that bridge” lol. So cool to see Minneapolis on yammie noob!
My cfmoto 300nk is honestly the next choice I've made. It's my first bike so it's not too much and just enough bike to keep me happy
The tech is has on it is honestly great too.
10/10 bike so far
My only complaint would be it's pretty hard to find cosmetics made specifically for it
I actually own the Philippines variant of this. What I would only change on the bike is the wind screen because wind protection is literally non-existent but everything else is great
Literally just bought a CFMOTO 300ss 2 months ago same color as in the video, great beginner bike I absolutely love it. But unless your ordering it to be delivered to your house and you assemble it from the crate, your paying about another $1,000 from whatever dealer you buy it from after taxes and all it was a little over $6,000 for me.
Love your videos keep up the great work.
Sounds about right. I’m thinking about getting one. Going from a grom to this would be a step up lol
My friend that I grew up in China with got one of these cfmoto sportsbike for 20k cny (3k usd) couple years ago and had 20000 miles on it. I was kinda surprised when he told me this bike is Chinese cus when I was a kid most of the Chinese motorcycles I saw looks like old design and I hardly ever seen a modern looking one, and this one looks kinda cool.
This is the first time I can actually say that a video on this channel sounds like one big ad! Please don't sell out Yammie! Your channel is known for being opinionated but impartial.
🤣 That's all Yammie does! I'm glad they do. I would be lost being so ignorant to riding. Yammie is the lighthouse in the ocean of all these bikes/stiles ect. He has taught a noob like me a great deal. He doesn't hide his biases and gives credit when it's due. Not I drove this bike buy it, I love this brand buy it. I still don't have a bike but I will next year. Pappa Yam is the Encyclopedia Britannica of bikes. Wich volume I can't say. There are other great content creators out there that make the who set. There is nothing wrong with "hey check this out" and people like it. Its new/different. Gotta see it sooner or later.
Can't say no to that CCP cash
LOOOLLL!! You haven't seen all the shilling they've done for the Husqvarna Vitpilen/Svartpilen bikes? 🤣🤣🤣 They aren't unbiased at all when a company pays them to say good things. Not to say those bikes are bad per se, but they certainly aren't the pinnacle of motorcycling that literally every single of their videos on the topic would suggest. Plenty of downsides that are ignored. I actually called them out on this, and they replied weakly once, attempting to convince me "oh no, we actually like the bike more than any bike on the planet!", and when I pointed out some of its flaws they ignore, they stopped replying. 🙄 Impartial, indeed.
@@joshisajedi2461 Calling out hypocrisy/unjustified bias/epic shilling when practically every other review was categorically more honest and fair is complaining now? Okay. 🤪🙄
Yammie is *never* not biased, every video either he praised *or* trash a motorcycle brand. This is literally his style. And there's no such thing as unbiased review when people involved. But if you want *less* bias, Motorcycle Magazine and the successor Revzilla should be better, or FortNine if you want more snark. (Sidenote, avoid Srkcycles in this regard for obvious reason)
Looks like a R NONE get it lmfaoooo ima be here all night folks lmao
This Chinese Yammie Noob should scare the Original!
I don’t know why, but I get the feeling I should keep watching Yammie Noob.
I'm from LATAM and I've been eyeing/researching this bike since december of last year. It's a beautiful machine, but they're still working out some kinks. Even still, the value is excellent for what you get (bluetooth, app, leds, abs on both tires, eco and sport mode, fuel mileage, etc etc). Keep in mind, the 300sr (single-cylinder) won't beat out an R3 (twin-cylinder): there are videos online. I think the bike is geared more towards east asian and latin markets because there aren't a a lot of highways in those countries and traffic is bumper to bumper, as opposed to the US where you have expansive highways and 400 to 600ccs are better suited to those conditions. As a beginner bike though, I think it's perfect.
It will be interesting once they bring the 400cc over. I have to agree after test riding some. They feel lack luster with the under powered single thumper. Not useful for the US market.
Which LATAM Country? I'm curious about the availability "down south" for this and also dual sport or off road bikes. I have a place in 🇨🇷 and new/used dual sports from the Big 4 manufacturers are extremely expensive due to import taxes. But... I have seen very cheap Chinese bikes available at WalMart for ~$2500. Just waiting to see how they hold up long term. Maybe 2020's China is the new 1970's Japan when it comes to quality... "not quite there YET but Up & Coming?"
Bro I’m from Albany 🥹. Any bike dealerships?
400-600 just gets you killed quicker
...said no Rider ever. @@JessicaSimonson1976 stick to 50cc scooters. The rest of us enjoy bikes that have just enough throttle to slightly scare us, but not enough to kill us while we grow into them. My 1133cc, 69cu in, 100hp V-Twin can't hear you... all it hears is BRAAAAAP! lol 😆
Your guys content is amazing
Been following your channel for a while now. Wanted my first bike and didn't know what to get till I saw the 450SR couple months ago. Now I'm waiting patiently for it to arrive to US.
Just bought a CFMoto 300nk. Love this bike!! Super fun bike to ride around turns or just makes your commute so much more enjoyable!! Don’t sleep of this company! Amazing bike!!
Naah man its from from a ethics standpoint, almost every motorcycle made by them is a copy in terms of design elements and its a Chinese company so pretty sure their companion apps or even the bike would store info and send it to Bejing. This is obviously my take and it seems its a solid bike because Josh clearly has good things to say.
Don't care how good the bike is, won't buy it when there's better options
I mean if it rides good and it’s cheaper who cares just don’t use the app if you’re worried about the data
i agree. i don’t know for a fact that tech from there is doing anything malicious, but i would rather buy my scooters from York, PA ya know?
Japanese were once copycats
CFMOTO has a partnership with KTM and builds KTM branded bikes in Asia. They are a solid company.
It’s nice of you to give a job to someone fresh out of rehab
Crazy to see you guys cruising around on the same roads I ride on!
Here in Australia I have a CF Moto 650MT. It's my first bike, and I love it. But I'd probably love anything first time out. But friends of mine who ride, and have looked it over are very impressed.
Whitney and Josh did an awesome job on this one. 👍
Wish I had this as an option when buying my first bike but no regrets on my 390 Duke
I got a 700cl-x sport a couple months ago and love it. My previous bike was a 2001 r6.
Likes & dislikes? Any issues pop up? Your riding style?
Got this bike about a week ago, put almost 400 miles on it, and as a first time rider here’s my thoughts so far-
1) Gas mileage is outstanding. Almost 400 miles and I’ve only put in about 4-5 gallons
2) Electronics are nice, but leave much to be desired. It’s nice I can see directions, but there’s no map. It’s nice I can see who’s calling, but I can answer or end it so I can get back to my music. Gonna end up getting a quad lock to mount my phone. It is nice I can use it to diagnose any problems and can check little things like gas and daily miles on it
3) Power band and brakes are great and easy to adapt to so I don’t mess myself up. Only thing that I would improve is that the clutch lever is a bit wobbly and I had to dramatically tighten up the throttle, but it’s a cheap bike so you get what you pay for
4) handling and suspension have not had any issues
5) I’ve hit speeds up to 90 mph so it can easily get you around
6) It looks great. I’m gonna end up removing the awful CFM sticker, but other than that the accent lines are fine. Only other thing I would do is change the green to red at some point
All in all I’m happy with this bike as my first bike. I can definitely see myself growing out of it pretty quickly, but as an economic commuter it is great. I might be sending my data to Papa Pooh in China but let’s be honest, he’s already gotten my info from somewhere else probably.
Pooh don't care about your data, no value to them, they want your money for sure. However, The big 4 will now have to work a lot harder since Pooh is on their asses. I do know uncle Sam is very afraid of Pooh, therefore starting smear campign against the Pooh king.
I’m about to get get one financed and pay 120 monthly, is it worth it?
How’s the bike doing now ? I’m thinking of potentially getting the 450ss here in california
Whitney and Josh did a good job presenting this one! Yam and Spite, it might be better sticking to the Yamcast 😉
Guess this will now be called Whitoshie noob.
Hard to beat yam and spite
Awesome 👍 work guys...that CF is something else. Regards from Bombay India 🇳🇪
You two killing it on this tag team review👏
crap bike, weird review
Idk if I'd risk it with a chinese bike... Korean maybe but chinese idk. China knows how to make something cheap look good when it isn't. We'll see how they hold up in time
I would love to see a review of each of the CF Moto bikes! Their price point is fantastic as long as you compare what else is available in the class in the price categories. If you compare them to other big brand bikes of the same CC, you’ll be left wanting for more. End state, ignore the CC and look at options in the price range, fantastic bang for your buck!
I remember being sceptical about the brand too but after looking at the MT650 for more than a year, I came to the conclusion it's price is unbeatable, so I took one. Result? More than happy with it. It works great 👍🏻 I recommend you try one for yourself.
I have the CLX 700, its really amazing!!
You need to review the CLX 700 Sport!!!
Great video guys!! Enjoyed riding with y’all!!
Here in Europe, CF Moto Is actually pretty competitive, cheap, but actually nice - build quality Is Nice, tech is great, etc. Overall, noone knows, if they will last, but they seem to be JUST good enough.
He keeps talking about an app. I don't give a shit about an app unless it gives the bike 10 more hp. Doesn't give any more hp? I don't care then.
@@TheBandit7613 You're the minority in current motorcycle world, bro.
@@victoriazero8869 That's sure possible.
I care about performance. That's it. I don't stare at my phone like others.
@UCP9JX2G7MoyxeHmjzyCWDvQ yeah we usually disregard any ccp products in western Europe,🤤 if we can avoid ,as a boycot. It's probably worse since covid19🤣
The day China will do reliable stuff, Jesus will be back 😉
@@TheBandit7613 the app Is kind of "useless", but you Have to see IT as a bike for teenagers And youngsters - it Is a cool, modern, Sharp looking toy, that can cruise at 130 km/h řádily And can handle some sport and also touring stuff.
If you were able to you get like 20 bike like this and have a rider training company and community service club. The 300 & 400 are just great packages
They've been here in Australia for a minute, but really started to make waves in 2012 with a photocopy of the Kawasaki 650 twins. I haven't tried it, but I'm sure every part on the CFMOTO 650NK will bolt straight on to my Kawasaki ER-6F. Go China! 😂
There's plenty of used ones for sale here, so they'll last longer than the warranty period, but there are 2 big issues with them: Power is down compared to an equivalent model from the Big Four. Resale value tanks compared to most other brands. They make some pretty good looking bikes, but need to work on their reputation & individuality. Price is a strong market mover, but it isn't everything.
"Go China". You're disgusting simping for a disgusting country
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Most chinese bike outside of the partners tend to undertune their engines to compensate for quality control. If you check bikes from Haojue (which produces many Suzuki bikes for them) as well as Benelli, Sundiro and Wuyang Honda (yes there are two Chinese hondas) they all comes with Japanese quality and reasonable price (not cheap, but not full trim either)
Boys and Girls remember that much of Chinese industry is control by politicians and High ranking millitary leaders. So the money you send to China let's them build the weapons they WILL use against us.
@@scottsingleton2951 > 2022
> Still doing Red Scare Yelow Peril shit
My riding buddy has the 650 ,it seems like a Versys knock-off. It has some go for what it is. A great learner bike for a larger person
Won't lie, if you're in the aussie market, these bikes are everywhere and there are a few dealers in most major cities that can service and repair and order parts.
about time you checked out CFmoto, i bought a 300nk as my first bike. and i'm loving it. If anybody from the Yammie crew is passing through NE ohio, i'll loan it to you to check out the naked version. I test rode the SS and widely prefer the NK model.
How is the reliability though? Can the reliability keep up with the big four? Does it have spare parts available in the long run?
@@alesterpadua7884 the dealership i bought it from has all of the maintenance parts in stock and told me they can get stock replacements if anything gets damaged. CFmoto partnered with KTM for the engine and chassis, thats why they perform and kind of look like the dukes.
I’ve been waiting for this video
Hey, good job by the FNGs! Well presented and articulated. Give ‘em more work, Yam!
That said, I’m avoiding anything Chinese until they become better partners on the world’s stage.
is anyone going to tell him?
"better partners on the world's stage" - Well, i suppose that is one way to say stop Uyghur concentration camps, debt trapping developing countries, mass pollution, space colonization and subverting western society.
Ive had 2 Chinese vehicles. 1 was ok reliable 2nd was a POS. I would get either a Yam or a Honda for more or used for less. Also what you save is lost in resale value.
I don't think they're so new anymore
U mean America lol...China is not the one bombing Iraq for god sake.
Did you say 30 hp lmfaoooo my lawnmower got 2 more hp then that oh lord cmonnnnnnnnn chinaaaaaaaa u killing me smalls lmfao
the features and the styling is definitely a plus
Can't wait for the 700CL-X Heritage and the X Sport reviews, i do like the look of them bikes. Bang for buck, the 300 is brilliant.
It actually looks dope…. But will it be reliable????
Theyve been making 4x4 for a long time. Also a partner of Ktm in manufacturing engines
Guys i’m from china and i own one gsx 250 in china this type CF moto only have 250cc it sells great actually. Many friends owned and sell it already . why? buy it because it’s cheap in china (1627$),and it have apps good shape …sell it because compare with gsx 250 it’s not a good moto,it’s fast than gsx but the quality is not so good .especially when you own it over one year. so if I can chose it with R3 kawasaki 400 or KTM even Gsx 250,i wouldn’t choose CF
Remember when Fortnine did a video on OEM oil testing and the Chinese bike was so dirty it broke the lab equipment they used? I don't think the big four need to worry about that.
I love how young Americans can simultaneously rail against civil injustice in the US while praising products from China made by child laborers and Uyghur slaves.
@@Hermanocleas what?
@@Hermanocleas no correlation at all. WTF are you talking about 😂😂😂
@@Hermanocleas mate, have some green tea, your coffeeAggression is showing
It's worth noting that that was a single Chinese brand, of which there are MANY. They pointed out in the video that CF Moto has been making off road toys for years, and there seems to be a pretty good reputation formed among owners of those machines.
Good to see you guys in Minnesota!
I recently visited a dealership that also stocked CF Moto. To me, they appeared to be stylish, well-made machines. Would I own one? Not sure yet, however I certainly wouldn't rule it out.
@@pleasedontwatchthese9593 to be fair they had the living GodKing Soichiro Honda
It’s great seeing you guys here in Minneapolis!
Great looking bike at a great price. Hope they can bring their 650 class bikes here.
TH-cam “Cfmoto 650NK”. They’re here.
i personally wait for my CFMoto 450sr that i have preorder, to arrive in Cyprus around end October, beginning of November. It looks so good, the price is just perfect and the futures you get are more than anything else out there.
Do the 700cl-x now!!
The new Cfmoto 450SR looks and sounds pretty sweet 👌
We should be doing everything we can to avoid Chinese products, especially for large purchases like vehicles, especially when there are great Japanese/European options for only slightly more
The problem is, even if you buy a European or Big Four bike, the odds are good that it'll have Chinese made parts, including engines, on them. For example, CFMOTO makes engines for KTM's 800 ADV bike; in fact, the factories are right across the street from each other in China.
@@markymarknj some Chinese parts is still better that the whole bike. Remember every mid/large Chinese companies are partly controlled by the Chinese gvt.
Why?
@@markymarknj Unfortunately China has it's hands in a lot of production, to the point that it's impossible to avoid it all, but a product with a Chinese part is a lot better than a fully Chinese product.
@@Loiczzr unfortunately, all mid/large Chinese companies are partly or wholly controlled by the CCP.
Bought 1 and we love the bike. Only issue we have had is the chain stretched at less than 300 miles, but the dealer fixed it free of charge. My wife is a beginner and loves it!
the chain stretched on my Honda Rebel 300 (2022) within 200 miles...I just tightened it...it seems fine...
Living in Minneapolis and riding a cf moto Papio 125. Loving it so far, but would be nice if there was more aftermarket support or even just if shops carried stuff like the proper oil filter
How was the throttle response? The one I test rode was terrible. Rev matching while down shifting really sucked.
@@Cabooseified well it's my first bike ever so I don't have much to compare it to. My friends who have more experience did complain about throttle hanging, but I found if you just crank it further than you think you need to, it gets really peppy
@@ronaldgomez330 I would look for another bike tbh. That one from my experience isn't good to learn on, after you get on to a 300 or any other bike you'll start to understand why the throttle response on that bike isn't good for a new rider. Really good way to develop bad habits. Not saying 125s are a bad bike to start with, it's just that one in particular.
How much does it cost ? Like $1300 ?
@@byavarsi with tax, title, and dealership fees, it was about $4400, but still cheaper than a brand new Grom and Monkey
Think about who is monitoring you...and how keen they are to monitor you based on how low the price is...
The problem with a bunch of Chinese products is longevity. How will this bike hold up a year down the rode with a bunch of mileage? Are the tires junk? Are the brakes junk? Will the engine fail at a few thousand miles because of subpar metal in the components?
well they are 51 percent owner while ktm owns the other 49 percent of the company, and its been that way for a while apparently so its a chinese ktm thatd id be willing to bet would last just as long as any bike givin the correct owner adn maintenance im no moto dealer but i personally want either the papio or one of their small nakeds so roll around town when i dont feel like rolling the r6
@@FlyLikeRedBull KTM has reliability issues too.
Its something like husquarna
There's one thing I'd add. If it's too good to be true, then it probably is. Why do you think they can afford to make it so cheap, and with all the tech? The answer is: because they cut corners with the quality of components. I don't even mean in relation to performance, but longevity, reliability and safety.
It's easy to throw a bike together that looks nice (which it does), and has all the blitz and bling, but one thing demos like this don't show, is how it ages over a number of years. Fast forward 2 years and 5,000 to 10,000 miles, how much corrosion is there, What parts have needed replaced? Do the electronics still function, is the app still supported?
TLDR: if you can afford to sell your product 20% cheaper than your competitors, and with better tech in your product, it's because you have made cost saving and quality reducing decisions. That money has to be saved somewhere.
The cost cutting was in labor. These 300SRs are old news. They're reliable enough, plus look too good and priced too cheap to basically threaten the big 4's asian grip on the 150cc sportbike segment. Yes, 150cc - they're so cheap their 300cc is nigh on the same price as a Honda CB150R and a Yamaha R15.
Exactly. When will these cheap basterds who keep buying Chinese crap bikes realize that your giving your money to a garbage country, meanwhile your bike is going to be in a landfill within 10 years. It's a complete lose - lose scenario for the consumer and a win - win for the manufacturer.
STOP SIMPING FOR CHEAP CHINESE PRODUCTS
No, the cost cutting is in the scale of economy + quality control. You can have both which result in Honda pricetag. Otherwise you end up with Italian stallion, which have neither and end up expensive anyway.
@@victoriazero8869 the economy of scale point can be applied to Royal Enfield too
They sell a huge volume of bikes annually, and even they apparently can't make bikes quite this cheap.
@@Chambers_90 Which means CFmoto cut corner somewhere, and it's very likely quality control. China labor is no longer cheap in 2020s. CF Moto most likely cut corners by detuning the motor and thus allow less rigid standard of quality.
As a CFmoto owner, because where I live it's a domestic bike and the imports from Japan at 4x the price of everywhere else... Don't buy it. I've had my 650GT for a little over a year, daily rider, 9,000kms. So, so, so many problems.
The good:
Designed by Kiska thanks to a KTM partnership. It has USB and 12v outputs. Comes with panniers. Continental ABS. J Juan brakes.
The bad:
Cylinder head assembly needed replacing at 5,500kms. The app is spyware (literally). Service intervals are short. Chain and sprockets both needed replacing every 4,000kms. Clutch center bearing needed replacing at 7,500kms. The dealership where I live is lazy and terrible. They don't ever fix a damn thing properly, warranty isn't worth anything.
If Kawasaki, honda or Yamaha are a little more expensive than CFMoto where you live, then buy them. You get what you pay for in terms of quality. Don't be fooled by the gadgets they come with, remove the GPS tracker it comes with. Don't install the app.
I’ll say it does look good. Will it hold together as long as a Royal Enfield or will they both disintegrate at about the same time? This bike seems like the Tik Tok of motorcycles with the app. So just accept sharing all your data for all your apps and files with China. Otherwise, it looks like we’re beginning to see Papa Yam’s recession series of bikes the people can still afford to buy.
What does the app do? Add 10 hp? No? Then wgas.
Wait, @7:59 thats not how a slipper clutch works. They allow the clutch to slip when you downshift and the wheel is spinning faster than the engine is.
I was wondering when I'd see some CFMoto content here. The dealership down the street got a bunch in, and I admit to curiosity: they're inexpensive, but are they cheap?
They're mostly heavy, that's what they have to work on their bikes, but i think the new ones are losing weight price mighy go up too tho.
I'm going to check the product line out now. Great video
The new 450sr just got released here in the ph has 270 inline2 and cheap. Lovely sounding too.
Is it an inline 2 or a parallel twin?
@@davidgembe3446 Same thing.
Just exciting since it has a 270 crank rather than the usual 180 crank found on kawasaki's etc.
I’ve put 700 miles on my 300nk and it’s been fantastic. Gets between 70-100 mpg. Doesn’t have a problem on highway. Definatly recommended for new riders and experienced riders that want a cheap commuter bike.
This video is one big change and I love it
My girlfriend is strongly considering this as her first bike! Now Whitney I’m curious about that 700 you were riding too!
Get a ninja 400
We just passed 18 million excess deaths worldwide since the Chinese unleashed their humanized bat virus on the world. Maybe your girlfriend should think again about buying a Chinese bike.
She will regret buying a Chinese piece of s***. Also how you going to let your girlfriend feed the Chinese communist party?
I think we'll see a Yammie Noob video about the 700 soon... :)
Origin portal is a weird thing to call your mom.
All the yes to more Josh and Whitney screen time.
CF Moto - No thanks.
@@pleasedontwatchthese9593 Gotta work your way up I guess. I'll take Josh and/or Whitney over Spite any day. Did you see that awful video he made on buying a bike privately vs from a dealer? Eurgh
I owned a CF Moto 250NK for 12 months as my starter bike. Bang for buck was good, reliable and fun as well.
Exhaust tone was awful and gearbox could have had a taller 6th gear but otherwise good.
Also looking at newer models in the showroom it appears they’ve upped the quality since 2018.
that last thing i need from my bike is for it to be made in china
I'd buy one to but the dealerships suck with all the BS fee's it's almost $9000 for one.
Never buy any bike from that dealershit going that high over sticker is price gouging.
No reason at all to get this over a cbr300r. Why on earth would someone need a slipper clutch on a 300? I'll trade a slipper clutch, tft and a gps for Honda reliability any day and anyone considering this bike should as well.
Kind of yes ... Not a honda simp though yes there r way better bikes to be in my legacy for sure .. like a cbr300r or ninja 400 even a duke 390
I don't know the 300 but their mid cc bikes source the engines from KTM actually and they seem pretty reliable... It's time to broaden our horizons, Chinese bikes are actually pretty good
Well, you're automatically assuming this one is a piece of garbage.
If it's even half way well made, some noob just starting off, may not have 5500, and to parents 4500 vs 5500 makes a lot of difference.
The app is also a nanny control that many modern parents would pay money for.
The slipper clutch is not what you buy this bike for.
I'll never buy either, but here's all argument for either unless this proves unreliable.
@@FoByaH Yes, they are pretty good. The problem is that the small displacement market is already very competitive - why buy a KTM engine, inside a bike constructed in a chinese factory with chinese construction standards when you can pay almost the same price for a Japanese bike with a good pedigree? Not even mentioning the political aspect of buying from China. If these bikes were $1500 cheaper then they would be a good buy, but for $4,300 you can buy a great japanese bike new or a fantastic japanese bike used.
I have a 650 ADVentura and while I was looking to buy my bike I couldn't help but look at one of these, they had three had in the showroom....I'm a sucker for that paint scheme. I love the teal blue with the white. Looks sooooo good....if they offered the 650 ADVentura in that I would have gotten it
easy to build a nice cheap bike when all research and development is stolen... add cheap labor....
because no one of the big manufacturers have "stolen" anything from one of the others? And what research and development? The thumper, the forks, the brakes? The chinese have been making tfts for a long time.
@@darkiee69 all stolen technology for a long time... You see the Chinese Rolls-Royce? The Chinese Jeep? I don't support this shit
Fun fact: The radiator comes pre-filled with Uyghur blood,sweat, and tears
I'm happy you did a tiny review on it
More CFMoto please!!!! Love what this company is doing. Come in, undercut the competition.
I don't care where it comes from, where they "stole" the design from, or some silly badging.
Time will tell of reliability but CFMoto has a decent track record. Love that their coming in and knocking it out of the park and giving the consumer so much for their money.
Look at their 700CL-X Sport... It's a $10,000-$11,000 bike from a big 4 brand. $7K from CFMoto. Love it love it love it. Things need to be inexpensive again!!
I love them. This competition is a win for us consumers
I just bought the 300 NK (Naked version) it is an amazing motorcycle. I LOVE IT!!
Hi yammie i am a beginner Rider i made my first "motorcycle" a put a 66cc 2 stroke engine on a bicycle and made it a "dirt bike"and i would like to share my story:
I bought a motorized bicycle engine for 150 bucks and put it on a 300 dollar mountain bike it worked fine it was my baby it wasnt fast but it was loud because i removed the baffle from the exhaust it was FUN everyone looked at me when I was riding it and i had full gear Helmet gloves everything it was my daily but it was to good to be true i was riding it to school but I screwed up in the chain and the sprocket was off center the chain skiped the sproket hit the engine wall and it shatterd it than it the pieces hit the crankshaft and broke it the engine locked up and I draged my tire at 40 mph it wasnt fast but it feels fast because it was a deathtrap i bought a new crankshaft with more compression and put that one on the engine all by myself but a friend helped me make the gaskets it didnt run the engine had spark and fuel and compression but the damn thing wouldnt start and guess why the bigger crankshaft made the piston kiss the spark plug it was robbing spark so I went to the store bought a 1mm spacer put on the sparkplug and it fired right up after months trying . It ran for a week and broke down again :( now im just going to buy a 400cc ktm dirt bike in about 2 months or a suzuky im not sure wich one but it was a hell of a journey wish me luck
Hey if you made it this far thanks for reading this is my story;)
Lmfao
Jeremy is onto something this time
@@whizxcoffee yes i am but its a secret🤫but when its done i will come back and tell you
What the hell is a motorized engine? A motor is electric. An engine uses a combustible fuel. Doubt I’d get on a machine built by someone that doesn’t know the difference.
@@zyonsdream good thing he isnt building it for you. lol
but here the price is almost closed to some of the 2nd hand big 4
The dealers will make sure to price this bike out of competition with used Japanese bikes.
Sorry China,YOU LOSE.
( I already saw year old.brand new. Kaw Ninja 400's for sale for $4400 brand new this year)
And how many of those are around?
where at? please i'm desperate! I actually want an xt250 but i'll buy anything at or below msrp at this rate
@@darkiee69 apparently in the Washington DC area,there were quite a few year old brand new Kaw 400's for sale at new motorcycle dealers.
"And you were honored"...... Good line
If the Chinese really want to be competitive in the US market make something bigger than a 250/300.
Can't wait for the 450SR... I mean it looks dope and seems really good compare to competition of 500/400 ^^
They also make a 125, 650, 700, and 800
The US is a small market for them, why should they bother? Their main market is Asia, with a couple of billion potential riders.
@@jake11wht well not in sport bike tho :( but 650gt is a good one. Ride one for trial. It was nice. Xl700 seems nice
@@thomasbouvier3203 I rode the 700 and loved it, it's a perfect scrambler competitor. I just wish they put this TFT on it.