As a gunsmith who owns both older and newer pythons and older Colt Snakes and worked on a pile especially older ones I would advise anyone wanting a python to buy a newer one. There is absolutely nothing wrong with them at all as well as has areas corrected. Plus any gunsmith/rifle builder will tell you machining has advanced greatly over the last 30years
Unlike 95% of the people who post videos, I actually own a 2017 New Cobra, 2020 New Python and a 2021 New Anaconda. As of today, there have been NO ISSUES, period. The internal design and DA trigger is much improved over the original series. A lot smoother and zero stacking. The new Colt revolvers are much stronger than the originals. Colt has a test Python model with over 70,000 cycles and 14,000 maximum power rounds with no stress issues. The original Python would never handle that abuse, it would be a scrapped paperweight. The stacking and timing issues are long gone. Colt/CZ has not released a high polished blued because - 1.) The current model is stainless not carbon steel. 2.) The MSRP is already $1,500. Are you going to pay that much extra for the blued finish? I don't know why the lack of blued finish was even mentioned in this video because Colt directly said at Shot Show 2020, and several other times, additional finishes and different barrel lengths will be added in the future. Due to the high cost and labor, the high polish blued will probably be a Custom Shop option only. Are the new revolvers perfect? No. Are there things I wish Colt would do differently? Yes. A lot of people had to go decades with little to no chance of buying one and now they are back. People screamed for years to bring back the snakes, so Colt finally listened to their customers. The guns are not for everyone, but at least we have the option to buy a new one, which was a total "NO-GO" for decades earlier. Just my opinion.
Appreciate the feedback. I do these videos just as much for intelligent comments and opportunities for myself and other viewers to learn as much as anything else. I would likely buy one of those models you listed used from someone I trusted then brand new and have the possibility of dealing with what has become a fairly ineffective organization from a customer service standpoint.
@@drdrake63 I absolutely agree with you 100 percent on the customer service standpoint. Hopefully CZ will implement a different approach to customer service (think of Ruger) than what is being used now.
Yes I agree with most of your points here. IMO, the new Python action is the best DA revolver action on the market today in a production, mass produced gun. It combines the best aspects of the old Colt V-spring, the Mark III, and the S&W actions. The DA is better. The SA is NOT better, in fact its worse, but that can be fixed. It's better than any modern S&W product in my opinion, and it doesn't have the god awful keylock or sleeved barrels.
@@66smithra I agree with the SA not being at its full potential either. Part of the reason for the change in the SA trigger was Colt had to design the revolvers to pass strict safety drop requirements to be allowed on the approved California and Massachusetts rosters. Of course, unless you work at Colt there is no way to know if that is the real reason or not. A good trigger job can obtain a 3 to 3.5 lb SA trigger on the New Cobra, New Python and New Anaconda models, if you can find the right person to work on these Colts.👍🏻😊
@@smithn.wesson495 Yeah I don't know if I buy that because the gun has a transfer bar (and in the old design a positive rebounding hammer with a hammer block). You could put a 12 oz trigger job on it and drop it off the Empire State Building and it's still not going to accidentally fire without holding the trigger back.
When I turned 21 years old I bought a 6" stainless Python for $600. It was sold as used but whoever bought it new must not have ever fired it and it appeared in new condition to me. That was over 25 years ago and I still have it. Even though it was made in the later CNC machined years it is incredibly crafted. I will part with it when I stop breathing.
For a guy who did not, and would not buy a new Python, why would your opinion matter ? I own many old Pythons, 18 in fact, and when the new guns arrived, I snapped up the first I saw. I now have 2 of each length, and regularly shoot (2-3/week) the 4.25 and 6” models. Of the older models, I have 4 that go to the range along with the new Pythons. I’d estimate I have several thousand rounds fired from each new model and they are, in my opinion, much better shooters than any of my older guns. While the older Python had a beautifully smooth trigger, after a bit of break in, the newer guns perform much better. Fit and finish is excellent although I do wish I could get one blued. Don’t listen to someone who won’t even try the gun before declaring it “unworthy,” as it just proves how narrow minded some egocentric self “experts” can be.
I bet you soon have a blued one. I totally agree with your post here. People post stuff just to get ''clicks'' and have absolutely no clue what they talk about. I have the new Anaconda and the new colt, both awesome revolvers, and I will get the blued Python too, when they are in the stores and the prizes have come down to msrp. I bought the Anaconda too early and had to pay quite a bit over msrp but the store offered me the Python for $1425 it went home with me.
This is not a matter of what does or does not fail. The guns I don't have never failed me either... These are personal choices. Buy what you can afford and enjoy shooting it.
@@naturesbest7977 And I enjoy my Pythons. My 686+ (-6) is also a nice shooter. Go to the range often and become proficient with your favorite firearm. Skill is something that can’t be paid for in any currency.
@@jekyljacobson When I shoot my auto loaders, time flys by too fast. I could hangout at the range and shoot 38 special or even 22lr revolvers. I do like ALL firearms. But nothing is like shooting a well manufactured wheel gun!
I bought my Colt 2020 stainless steel (2nd Gen or the fixed issue model) back in Jan. 2021 and have shot over 1000 rounds through her with absolutely no issues (Paid $1,600.00 new). Heavier metal assembly and can take a beating that the older collector models can't.
Well I gotta tell you, I got one two months ago. And this gun is perfect. Fittings are superb. I’ve fired everything from target to magnum loads, and cycles flawlessly. I’ve put 400 rounds through it. I was going to get one last year, but I waited when I heard the problems. I honestly can’t be more pleased with this Python. I know a lot of guys had problems, I get it. Mine is a high serial number. And I paid what I think is a great price for it new $1650. Like I said, I’ve examined every inch of this gun, perfectly finished, and the trigger is smooth as glass, almost a hair trigger in SA, DA smooth as hell
I’m inclined to agree with everything you said I was lucky to get it at a decent price on launch but either way it’s truly a special firearm. While I love the 686, the Python is sentimental to me. I was 11 years old playing Resident evil and knew one day I’d own one. I would’ve paid $2000 for this firearm.
I was reading the posts and waited too before I got mine, i knew colt would work out any problem if people would start to post issues with their guns. I bought my Python in 2023 for $1425 and a in 2021 my Anaconda. No issues with either gun, the Python have had light primer strikes on CCI primers, I know these are a bit harder than others and this is why I buy them. It does not badger me as I can make/choose ammo with primers where this does not happen. I will get a blued version when they get more available, life is good 🙂
@@xxlxpman they're better in performance and efficiency only. The older cars look better, sound better, are simpler, and are more valuable. Plus with all the plastics and planned obsolescence, the newer muscle cars won't be around 50 years from now
You may be right about guns but not so much about cars. I drive a '16 Mazda MX-5/Miata. Compared to an MG-B, a similar sized car, it is orders of magnitude better. Look at muscle cars, today's crop are incredibly powerful, can actually go around corners and stop. I am 75, I remember the old cars, the new ones are much better.
if someone were to give me a Python as a gift I would certainly say "Thank you!" and probably even take it out an shoot it a bit, but I really don't think I would ever use cash from my own wallet to buy one!
In 2019 my company gave me a $2000.00 gift card for my 35th company anniversary. I really wanted a Python but they were not available.So I held a King Cobra Target and a Ruger GP 100 plus. The Ruger felt so much more rugged and substantial that I bought it. Because of the lower cost, I was able to add a stainless Ruger Super Blackhawk, and an RIA 1911 in .38 Super. I feel like I made a good choice because I love all three.
The above mentioned issues are no longer. With the prices of all guns going up across the board I think the price is fair. I’ve seen a few samples early on that had fitment concerns but the latest models have been pristine. Don’t be afraid to buy one they are good to go.
CZ owns Dan Wesson. You'd think that if CZ bought out Colt that they already have a passionate revolver department enthusiastically willing to recreate a jewel of a handgun.
@@j.mangum7652 that's what I'm hoping for. These days being divorced is great because I can spend my money how I want to. Just one question, can you own to many gun's? ( Lol ).
Picked up my new (2021 model) Colt Python SS 357 Mag 6” barrel about 10 months ago & love this badass firearm! After approx. 1800 rds (mostly 357 mag & a few hundred 38 special) this Python has proved to be a solid, reliable firearm. Not one issue and it looks fantastic!! Add this to your collection and enjoy the experience from Colt. I liked the Python so much, I also picked up Colt’s 1911 Government model, Combat Unit 9mm in 5” barrel. Another great firearm from Colt in the 1911 frame. Bottom line is Colt still has IT!
@@drdrake63 I don't like the metallic sound the 686+ makes when dry fired (yeah yeah yeah, snap caps, blah blah blah). The older S&Ws don't do that. I have a pre 27 (357 magnum) which is nice. Very nice. So are my 2 Pythons (original). The new Python doesn't fall short. Look, if you bitch about price-tags, then go with what you can afford. As far as functionality goes, you can get a nice wheel gun for very affordable prices nowadays. Whatever makes you happy. No need to bash the things you can't afford.
what do you think of the ruger super Redhawk? i bought one its a .44 and right out of the box it had cylinder issues, it would bind up after a few shots. i sent it back to ruger and they fixed the issue. the adjusted the gap between the cylinder and the barrel and also crowned the barrel. and they fixed the timing issue. but i loved the colt anaconda it was such a sexy looking gun up close. i probably could have got a better gun, who knows!
Can you find out why it is difficult to get barrels for Thompson Center Encore/Prohunter. Thompson Center will not tell their vendors when they will be available.
Thanks for the opinion. I’m going along with the 99% of the people who praised the Python in your comments section. The 4.25” is now on sale at Midway for $1352.00 plus free shipping. I’m stoked about it. 👍🏻
I heard that the coiled Springs used in those revolvers on the triggers mostly cause the problems. Is that true? I'm a Smith & Wesson guy myself, but I owned several "D" frames as a young man.
I didn't know they still made the Dodge Charger, so I looked it up and well... they call it a Charger, but to me it looks just like any other butt ugly car made today. However, the Dodge Challenger is a really cool car that I wish I could afford.
I have a late 60's 4 inch in RB. I love the firearm. I once had an 6 inch in US and wish I had not parted with it. A good friend who always wanted to purchase my 4 inch (which is not for sale) ended up purchasing a new one when they came out. We had a few hiccups with his. The worst being you would pull the trigger and sometimes the cylinder just would not advance. He ended up sending it in and they fixed it for him and he has been happy every since. I also got a chance to play around with a 4.25 when they came out. And the one I handled was actually surprisingly well put together. I believe Colt has worked the kinks out and would recommend them to anyone wanting a Python without paying the classic price. I am kinda interested in picking up a 6 inch now. And I hope to own one soon.
Absolutely agree with you. Colt has been resting on their laurels and days of glory for the last 4 decades. While its a shame it has to be taken over by a foreign company, CZ makes very high quality products and shows interest in being both creative and innovative.
Many of your favorite companies are owned, or partially owned, by foreign investors. Colt has many decades of non-gun industry management but also has many decades of industry-invested management and has set the standard for many handguns and combat-style rifles. CZ has its manufacturing problems as well, just like H&K, Glock, FN, Sig Sauer...who have inventory recalled from active combat area or contracts for "upgrades". ALL manufacturers, not just the ones you like to hate.
Just bought a new one 3 days ago. All i can say is WOW this thing is so smooth and so accurate. Love it to death. Wanted one for well over a decade. I'll do a video on it tomo and put it on my channel if anyone would like to see it in action!!
Got one for a Christmas present, no problems with it, great action, very smooth, and very accurate. Use it for my everyday carry weapon, it's the 6 inch model but not really that hard to conceal. I am very happy with it.
I agree with you DR. I have a Colt Python vintage 1992 paid $500 for it but it was a handcrafted classic Colt Python 6 inch royal blue just a beautiful revolver!
I had a black parkerized 4 inch Python with Pachmyr grips back in the early 90's. It was a beautiful gun. I wouldn't pay what they're asking for them now though
I am a new gun owner. I purchased my first fire arm last month which was a glock 17. I enjoyed going to the range and I am going to pick up a colt python the new one tomorrow. My preliminary research told me that because the new version is cnc cut , its more crisp. Newer tech means better is what people are saying. I am far from an expert as I already mentioned i am an extreme newbie. I appreciate the sentiment that the classic challenger or charger has its own charm compared to the new cars. And recalls are a normal things when it comes to new cars. So the bottom line is should i not buy the new one in your opinion?
Years ago I parted with my 6 inch blued Python. Took the plunge on a new one, and mine had the cycling issue. I knew there was a chance this would happen. Sent it back and turn-around was about 4 weeks. I know have a beautiful revolver, and can stop beating myself for letting my old one go. More than likely, will get the Anaconda to round out my snake gun collection (already have the King Cobra). I was disappointed to have to send it back, and hope CZ will get Colt sorted.
Ive been a gunsmith for a while now. Old pythons compared to new pythons i can tell you one does not function any better than the other. They both perform great. Everytime a big name manufacturer comes out with something or is re-releasing something you get a lot of haters out to knock it. Next thing you know you get falsely written articles claiming things like light primer strikes or cylinder lock up because its the first falsely accused issue they can make up off the top of their head. If you want a good 357mag i can give you an actual fact that a new colt python will do the job and last a lifetime so long as you dont do something like double charge a 357 case when reloading and fire it in which any ruger or colt will lock up and if its a s&w the frame will break among other things.
I like Colt revolvers and owned 2 of the original Pythons. I guess I got lucky when I bought my 2021 6” Python. The trigger is better than I remember on my early Pythons, fit and finish is excellent, it’s been very reliable and I think it’s kinda cool! To your point, I do missing the rich bluing, but SS is way more durable. I think it’s worth the $1,449 I paid for it. I also bought a 3” King Cobra, and as practical self defense revolver, I like it even better than the Python! Still love my Ruger GP100, SP101, S&W 686 & 642 too!
only issue I've head were mostly finish issues and different trigger that's kind of hard to get used to would be nice if they weren't as expensive though but they are fine revolvers so they know who to target in sales
I have 357 mag revolvers from colt dan Wesson Smith and Taurus. Honestly I find myself shooting my Taurus the most and it was by far the least expensive. My dad has a Smith 586 n ruger gp 100 in 357and a Taurus in 44 . All great guns but he seems to prefer his smith
I don't think I could drop the cash they are asking for the Python. I did run across a King Cobra Target recently, and picked it up. Very smooth action, and I don't see where the Python would be any smoother. If I can find ammo for this thing, I will get it to the range. In my area, .357 and .38 Special are scarce. I did see your video on the King Cobra, but the one you had did not have the night sight on the front and the adjustable sight on the rear.
I used to have a Python, bought it at a gun show for 230 dollars talked down from 275. It was a stubnose with nickle finish. At the time it was a awesome deal but still only so cheap because it was a weird gun being what it was and a stubnose. Like maybe a 2 inch barrel. The one I really wanted blued and 6inch barrel with white pearl grips would have costed around 500-600 at the time I bought that one. I loved how smooth the action was. Nothing I ever had before or after came close to the smoothness of that action. I can't believe how high the prices on them are now.
I have owned a S&W 686 Stainless Beautiful Gun and solid as a Bank Vault Also a S&W 586 In Blued Finish both were Great shooters and handled 357 Mag full loads very well...Owned one or! two Colts in 38spl Nice But never Missed on Having a Snake Gun..
I have one of the 6” 2020 pythons with a lowish serial number definitely before CZ bought Colt and as of now I have probably shot 350 to 400 rounds of .357 out of it and have yet to have a problem with my python, it has came to be my most favorite handgun I own, I just wish I had more ammo to put through it!
I've been wanting one for some time, albeit tempered by my GP-100. Unfortunately, I have yet to see one in the wild, so I can't even consider it. I won't buy something like this sight unseen. Same goes for the re-released Anaconda.
I bought a new Colt Python my understanding they corrected all the problems that trigger pull feels heavy to me the double action is consistent.. I haven't had a chance to fire it but when I do I will bench rested at 25 yards and I expect it to drive a tac.. yes I think I need to have a trigger job done on it I want to figure about 3 lb it doesn't feel 3 pounds on single action
As a decades long Colt 'cult' customer I humbly concur and add '2' " cencts " Colt Pythons and Troopers, and the Mark III line, used to be superior before Ruger 's "'Six"' line and the introduction of the S&W L frame, and the -6 K frames advancing to frame mounted firing pins. Theoretically the clockwise cylinder rotation and bolt stop holes being cut between chambers instead of over the weakest part of the cylinder wall makes convincing engineering sense at least to novices and laymen as we all once were when new shooters. But the failure until now to use stainless steels and the business mismanagement decision that spare parts to keep classic guns still shooting are being allowed to dry up has lost my confidence to have kept treasured first revolvers or buy the new ones. I already sold or gave away all the dinosaur fossils to family members and keep only one Colt as a momento but have replaced the Pony wheelgun collection with counterparts from Ruger and Smith & Wesson to have sidearms that I can shoot and repair and maintain as necessary without the worry that if a part or spring breaks now that gun is just a paperweight. Maybe CZ will remedy this, watching to give them a fair chance.
Most companies reach a place in manufacturing where they no longer support legacy firearms. Try calling CZ and see it they'll supply parts and service for their Model 50, 52, Scorpion, 58, 26, 53 or 60. Everyone moves on. I don't like it but that's the life of a manufacturer. I can't get Chevrolet to supply parts for cars made in the 1990's. Aftermarket, yes, but OEM...no.
@@Rustebadge I concur with your insight wholeheartedly and interpret it as an affirmation of my own humble remark. And that is why platforms like the 111+ year old 1911/2011 persist, plenty of parts and service and technician specialists. The High Power approaches this reverence with the Turks and Springfield embracing it. Classic Colt revolvers are now trophies, heirloom legacies, collectibles and emergency shooters only, as using these to the point of needing a tuneup or repair will only devalue and render them into junk. Kimber, and now Henry offer competitive options to S&W and Ruger. The new Colts are a different breed from the prdicessors.
@@shockwave6416 The 686+ is affordable and a nice shooter. Enjoy. The Python is more of a showy piece. If you're in it just for shooting purposes, the 686+ may be a smarter choice. The difference in price will buy you some ammo which you can use to practice and become a better shooter. Having said that, it is really silly to say one gun is better than the other. There are many aspects in a firearm that mean different things to different people. What is better for you, is not necessarily better for everyone else. Perhaps it is more proper to say that you like one better than the other. Happy shooting.
I have owned classic Pythons starting back in the 70's. There is nothing magical about them. They were just Colt Officers Model Match revolvers with a vent rib full underlug barrel. They were slick as glass because of the polishing that was done on them. It had a very old lock work design. The handwork that went into those guns is almost gone for a mass produced item like the Python. I would love to work the action of one of the new Pythons to compare it to the old. Bottom line, if Colt call's it a Python then it's a Python.
I bought the 6,4 inch python and the colt king cobra target model. These guns from Colt I have not experienced any malfunctions. I can't wait to get the 2121 Colt Anaconda. I do prefer old S&W's 686,19,66,29,629 and so fourth over the old colts and new colts. Dig your videos keep up the great work.
I've had the pleasure of firing S&W 686 about 7 years ago using .357 ammo. I had recently purchased a .40 cal Springfield XD and the 686 using .357 ammo was a lot more controllable and exciting. It felt like driving a top-of-the-line Bentley (which I have) compared to any German car. There's just no comparison when it comes to the ultimate driving machine--the Bentley Flying Spur. I feel the same about the 686. I even fired several Glocks in various calibers and not even the 9mm Glock comes close to the 686's smoothness and, to me, minimal recoil. If it wasn't for capacity, I'd rather have a 686 than any semi-auto except for a CZ and possibly a S&W M&P subcompact 2.0. I've always been interested in testing out the Python but it seems that many who have experienced shooting both the 686 and Python prefer the 686. Maybe the Python is like a Rolls Royce, which is probably a little more refined than a Bentley but not in terms of performance. Even Hitchcock 45 tested both side by side and he prefers the 686.
A python is like a 911 Turbo S and a 686 is a 911 Turbo. They are both phenomenal, modern revolvers made in a repeatable mass produced way. Much like auto bodies became cad files welded together by robots. If you find that the python activates your neurons more than the 686 you won't go wrong. Honestly my worse fear owning a python is that I'll drop it on pavement one day. No problem with a smith ha
The thing I have noticed from both the new Smiths and the new Colts is that they have complementary strengths. In terms of mechanical function, the other succeeds where the other might not. The Python, to me, has the smoother DA trigger, and the wider hammer tongue makes cocking the SA hammer easier. The 686, to me, has the better SA trigger and trigger reset. These are specifically regarding out of the box conditions. Both can be tuned to preference. The Ruger GP100 also enters with a similar relationship in strengths, as they are usually heavier, which helps with dampening recoil and potential durability. Plus, they have a simpler mechanical system and assembly for stripping and cleaning., and can be tuned to be plenty smooth themselves. 3 fantastic and easily accesible iconic 357 revolvers with 3 different priorities at 3 different price points. I've said it too often, but we are truly in a golden age of firearms. Whatever is most important for you, there is an appropriate option. Yet if you crack open each of these similar looking and operating revolvers, you'll see how differently they work, which helps you appreciate the ingenuity of each company. I know a lot of people prize older revolvers because of the design/aesthetic differences, but the newer stuff is really something special, too. Technology has come a long way, so whether it's vintage or modern, appreciate what you have. It's almost always worth it.
I dont know much about the python, but I did purchase a new king cobra when thay came out. Loved the gun. Great handling, easy shooting, nice trigger. BUT! it did not take long to ware it out.
@@shockwave6416 yes. I was using every Wednesday at the bowling pin shoot. It did not take long to get the gun loose. I took it to very reliable gun smith. He said it was all used up. I sent it back to the factory, but thay were no help.
@@jekyljacobson I can afford it and went with the Smith (I have about a dozen SW revolvers). Smiths are easier to work on and turn out smoother than the python.
I just bought one bc well, I've always wanted to own a COLT! Now with that said, my only issues is the handle. Not liking the way and discomfort of holding it. On my snub 357 S&W, it has a combat grip that makes it feel like butter in my hands. I'm hoping I'll be able to switch it out to more of a fatter/rounded style grip.
When I took my gunsmith course. They warned you of 2 guns in particular. The Colt Python (the first gen). And fine European double rifles. Python because parts are hard to get and double rifles because as they said. You best have a love and devote alot of time because one messup with one. And your profits just took flight. As fine tuned as Pythons are. I didn't want to spend the $700.00 for one knowing that eventually I would end up sending it back in once enough shooting knocked it out of whack. I'm not into collecting so if I did have one. Most likely I would put it up for sale. But each to his own.
Completely happy with mine. Deer Hollow grips and Wilson Combat sights are the only mods I've done. I'm a bit over $2 grand into the gun and it's my favorite gun to bring to the range. Over a thousand rounds through it and not a problem and it's accurate as all get out. Money well spent for this plinker.
I really enjoy my 2020 Python. It is accurate as hell, finished perfectly and perfectly reliable. I seems to kick less that even my N-Frame 4" Highway Patrolman and they both wear Pachmayr Presentation grips that fit my hand perfectly...The single action is NOT as good as my Smiths, but the double action is better than any of my Smiths with absolutely NO stacking.
Got a S&W 586, the money that was for one of the new pythons got put towards a new Desert Eagle in 357! Maybe I'll get a python after CZ has had it for awhile.
I have a 6, 4 inch pythons and 4inch King Cobra. They all function perfectly. I can't wait to get the Colt Anaconda in about 3 weeks as of this posting. Absolutely beautiful revolvers.
I’ve got a 1960s 4 inch blued python that I bought for my dad in 1972 for $325. I gave it to him and he never fired it. He gave it back to me about 20 years ago. I’m an older guy now and I’ve lost interest in lots of the things that we are dear to me so it’s going to be sold here pretty soon. It’s in excellent shape so it should go for way more than $325😂
@@travisbickle5984 not unfired but my dad and I have had it since 72 and I’ve probably only fired 20 rounds. He never did fire it while it was in his possession. It’s in great condition doesn’t even have holster were at the muzzle.
I have a 4 inch blue Python that I sold to my dad in 1979 when I worked at a local mom and pop sporting good store. 1979 was the year I graduated at 17. Originally I sold it to him for 289.00. He carried one shift for the San Bernardino County Sheriff's office and that was it. He said it was too nice a piece to get beat up chasing felons! The python had one 50 round box of ammo through it since 1979. He passed in 2007 from cancer, and he gave it to me 3mos. Before he passed.
Oh man you really pissed me off !!!! JUST KIDDUNG, I had been wanting to buy a Colt Python since I was a little kid. So in my 21st birthday back in the 80s I was standing at the door cash in hand and I bought my Colt Python brand new. It's been a love affair since the 80s. I bought my anaconda brand new in 91, what a joyous occasion, Santa Claus NEVER made me this happy. By the way, I really like your channel and I hope you go far.
My first revolver purchase was in 1980. A beautiful 4 inch Blue Python. While I liked it, I never loved it. Wound up trading it for $200 plus a new 4 Inch 586 S&W. I never had any real regrets about the deal.
I have a Python made in 1967 and it was nib when I bought it in 1987. I when that night to a indoors range. I put 100 357 mag rounds through it. I love it ,my trooper and my Cobra . I will wait and what CZ does.
Totally disagree. You didn’t get a lemon, that doesn’t change the fact that a lot of people did. As clearly stated at the end of this video, nothing more than an opinion rant. I’m glad you like yours. I take no joy in hearing about guys he spent their hard-earned money on something they didn’t like
@@gman77gas I have " real world" experience with a new Cobra and it was a negative. Sent back to Colt twice for trigger/hammer issues. MIM hammer shearing in two at the area of the mold casting marks at 300 rounds . Cylinder lockup then complete failure. No plus P just using standard pressure ammo. Poor trigger return speed that induces short stroke lockup on rapid fire drills. Nice gun to look at,but a failure in the field where failure is not an option.
@@gman77gas Ok. What's your point? I told the truth about Colt or what they've become. They aren't living up to their own standards in both build quality and polite customer service. So sorry you got your feelings hurt. Maybe it really sucks to be yourself being so sensitive and all.
I waited 13 months after I put my deposit down to receive my 4.25" Python. I have had zero issues with mine. I've put hundreds of rounds of magnums through it. The problems you mentioned were addressed by Colt and fixed
@@Majistr I did order the front and rear replacement sights from Wilson Combat for my Python. They were on back order too, but I got them in about 6 weeks. I put the gold bead on the front sight
@@Majistr Bill Wilson is a big fan of Pythons. He used to compete with a Python and has a very nice collection of them. When the new 2020 Python came out, his only criticism was the sights so he decided to have Wilson Combat make better sights for us. Congratulations on getting your Python. Hopefully it's a keeper for you
I had been looking to buy a python for years but couldn't justify the 3,500+ dollars for an older one. I bought one in March and immediately took it to the range. Cylinder got stuck and I had to send it back to colt. Incredibly frustrating consider I spent a little over 1,700. Got it back 6 weeks later. With all that being said I'd buy it again. Shoots like a dream, one of the best looking/shooting revolvers ever made.
I was excited for the new Python just because the worth of my originals has out stripped my want to shoot them. When it comes to firearms. I am firmly on the Colt side for 1911s, and S&W for revolvers. I was also one of the first ones to get their hands on a 2020 Python. I paid MSRP and had it in January of 2020. Firstly I will say mine did not exhibit any issues noted by others. Secondly I was impressed with the overall build quality of the gun. It had an action as nice as my originals, and shot as well too. That said. I was not happy with the laminate wood grips. I was pissed off that Colt made promises on things like sight options, but never delivered, and I wish the gun was in Royal blue. I wanted that gold bead sight that was promised. Colt says to contact Brownells, Brownells don't know what the hell Colt was talking about and told me to contact Colt. After a year and two months of monthly messages to Colt with offers to buy the sight, they just sent me one to shut me up. I am glad I bought the gun, and don't have any buyer's remorse. I do agree that Colt should had all their ducks in a row before relaunching a flag ship gun. There are not a lot of options for a half way decent target revolver anymore. S&W's QC has seemed to have left the building, as well as their junk locks. Rugers are overbuilt to be sure, but crude and not refined. I refuse to buy Taurus, already have a couple big Dans, and won't consider import guns. Not much left other than older Smiths.
Used to have one...wanted a new one & I see the initial problems have been fixed so I just purchased one...I'll let you know what I think....I do have the 686+, and 629,610, & even the 500....plus a Ruger Match Champion in 10mm...So I like wheel guns...Plus (4) CZ's which are terrific, and Sigs...so I have good taste and varied taste as well...FN 5.7....Desert Eagle....stay tuned.
Very interested in your feedback. I suspect they have made adjustments and fix some of the early problems. Still overpriced for what you get that’s just my opinion
@@drdrake63 I love people's opinions. It gives things another perspective. It can be educational. I know what to look out for. I will be reporting on my hands on experience after a few hundred rounds.
I'm going to disagree. Yes they had a few teething issues, but I think they have responded well with a fix. Colt took a huge gamble with these guns ( Cobra, King Cobra and the Python), I'd say it was a success for all 3... with few problems, on totally new redesigns. Colt has changed hands many times in the last 40 years. I think they were on a good path, towards giving their customers what they wanted, Snake guns. S&W, Sig, FN and every other company had issues as well. They were all fixed and now make fantastic guns.
This is something whining individuals never get. Oh, I paid X amount of money for something I couldn't really afford and found something to bitch about.
I would agree. I was a little worried when I made the purchase but at the point when I made the purchase the claim was these issues had been resolved. I have had mine for over a year now and have put many rounds through it both in .357 and .38 and I have had zero issues.
Well I paid $3150aud for mine when most gunshops were selling for between $3.5-4.8k aud, mid 7k serial number, over 2.5k rounds through mine with a mix of .38spl and .357mag (S&B and Winchester) and have never had any issues with my gun, I've even run about 100 round 9f cowboy reloads through it when one of my Ubertis was in for a warranty issue.
Well, at least he points out it's just his opinion. That said, I've heard these issues have been resolved by cz / colt and I just pulled the trigger on one. Only one to find out and I will actually have an opinion based on owning and actually shooting a late 2021 colt.
The old Python is a legend, the new Python is even better. Thanks to CNC machining and better internals, hands down my best firearm to date. The 3 inch combat elite is awesome.
You are definitely allowed your opinion. I own one of these Pythons and I love it. The trigger pull compared to the blue Pythons of old is remarkable. So I love it you don't but if a poll was taken I believe you would be in the minority on this one.
I bought a new one and am really impressed that it can be even compared to the original Python. My hat is off to COLT! My only complaint is that many of us shooters and collectors do all our own gunsmithing and parts unavailability is a real problem. Many companies offer service but no parts. It's not a selling point to me.
As a gunsmith who owns both older and newer pythons and older Colt Snakes and worked on a pile especially older ones I would advise anyone wanting a python to buy a newer one. There is absolutely nothing wrong with them at all as well as has areas corrected. Plus any gunsmith/rifle builder will tell you machining has advanced greatly over the last 30years
Always wanted one of these beautiful revolvers, Ya swayed me on the new one. Now off to go find one
Unlike 95% of the people who post videos, I actually own a 2017 New Cobra, 2020 New Python and a 2021 New Anaconda. As of today, there have been NO ISSUES, period. The internal design and DA trigger is much improved over the original series. A lot smoother and zero stacking. The new Colt revolvers are much stronger than the originals. Colt has a test Python model with over 70,000 cycles and 14,000 maximum power rounds with no stress issues. The original Python would never handle that abuse, it would be a scrapped paperweight. The stacking and timing issues are long gone. Colt/CZ has not released a high polished blued because - 1.) The current model is stainless not carbon steel. 2.) The MSRP is already $1,500. Are you going to pay that much extra for the blued finish? I don't know why the lack of blued finish was even mentioned in this video because Colt directly said at Shot Show 2020, and several other times, additional finishes and different barrel lengths will be added in the future. Due to the high cost and labor, the high polish blued will probably be a Custom Shop option only. Are the new revolvers perfect? No. Are there things I wish Colt would do differently? Yes. A lot of people had to go decades with little to no chance of buying one and now they are back. People screamed for years to bring back the snakes, so Colt finally listened to their customers. The guns are not for everyone, but at least we have the option to buy a new one, which was a total "NO-GO" for decades earlier. Just my opinion.
Appreciate the feedback. I do these videos just as much for intelligent comments and opportunities for myself and other viewers to learn as much as anything else. I would likely buy one of those models you listed used from someone I trusted then brand new and have the possibility of dealing with what has become a fairly ineffective organization from a customer service standpoint.
@@drdrake63 I absolutely agree with you 100 percent on the customer service standpoint. Hopefully CZ will implement a different approach to customer service (think of Ruger) than what is being used now.
Yes I agree with most of your points here. IMO, the new Python action is the best DA revolver action on the market today in a production, mass produced gun. It combines the best aspects of the old Colt V-spring, the Mark III, and the S&W actions. The DA is better. The SA is NOT better, in fact its worse, but that can be fixed. It's better than any modern S&W product in my opinion, and it doesn't have the god awful keylock or sleeved barrels.
@@66smithra I agree with the SA not being at its full potential either. Part of the reason for the change in the SA trigger was Colt had to design the revolvers to pass strict safety drop requirements to be allowed on the approved California and Massachusetts rosters. Of course, unless you work at Colt there is no way to know if that is the real reason or not. A good trigger job can obtain a 3 to 3.5 lb SA trigger on the New Cobra, New Python and New Anaconda models, if you can find the right person to work on these Colts.👍🏻😊
@@smithn.wesson495 Yeah I don't know if I buy that because the gun has a transfer bar (and in the old design a positive rebounding hammer with a hammer block). You could put a 12 oz trigger job on it and drop it off the Empire State Building and it's still not going to accidentally fire without holding the trigger back.
When I turned 21 years old I bought a 6" stainless Python for $600. It was sold as used but whoever bought it new must not have ever fired it and it appeared in new condition to me. That was over 25 years ago and I still have it. Even though it was made in the later CNC machined years it is incredibly crafted. I will part with it when I stop breathing.
agree! bought a new 6" blue when I came home from the gulf war in 1991 for $625, it's a keeper!
USD were worth more back then...
It will travel with you into your next life. 6 shots of .357 speak authority wherever you go
For a guy who did not, and would not buy a new Python, why would your opinion matter ? I own many old Pythons, 18 in fact, and when the new guns arrived, I snapped up the first I saw. I now have 2 of each length, and regularly shoot (2-3/week) the 4.25 and 6” models. Of the older models, I have 4 that go to the range along with the new Pythons. I’d estimate I have several thousand rounds fired from each new model and they are, in my opinion, much better shooters than any of my older guns. While the older Python had a beautifully smooth trigger, after a bit of break in, the newer guns perform much better. Fit and finish is excellent although I do wish I could get one blued. Don’t listen to someone who won’t even try the gun before declaring it “unworthy,” as it just proves how narrow minded some egocentric self “experts” can be.
I bet you soon have a blued one. I totally agree with your post here. People post stuff just to get ''clicks'' and have absolutely no clue what they talk about. I have the new Anaconda and the new colt, both awesome revolvers, and I will get the blued Python too, when they are in the stores and the prizes have come down to msrp. I bought the Anaconda too early and had to pay quite a bit over msrp but the store offered me the Python for $1425 it went home with me.
5000 shots without a bit of trouble. Better revolver than the old Python, worth every penny I paid for it.
When he said Charger was re released by Plymouth all his credibility went out the window
My model 586 smith 357mag has never failed me
This is not a matter of what does or does not fail. The guns I don't have never failed me either... These are personal choices. Buy what you can afford and enjoy shooting it.
I love my 586.
@@naturesbest7977 And I enjoy my Pythons. My 686+ (-6) is also a nice shooter. Go to the range often and become proficient with your favorite firearm. Skill is something that can’t be paid for in any currency.
@@jekyljacobson When I shoot my auto loaders, time flys by too fast. I could hangout at the range and shoot 38 special or even 22lr revolvers. I do like ALL firearms. But nothing is like shooting a well manufactured wheel gun!
@@naturesbest7977 I share the sentiment.
I bought my Colt 2020 stainless steel (2nd Gen or the fixed issue model) back in Jan. 2021 and have shot over 1000 rounds through her with absolutely no issues (Paid $1,600.00 new). Heavier metal assembly and can take a beating that the older collector models can't.
You're 100% right but you can't tell certain people anything people bad mouth the python but they don't even own it
Plymouth never made a charger.
I’ll stick with S&W wheel guns. Never had a problem.
Well I gotta tell you, I got one two months ago. And this gun is perfect. Fittings are superb. I’ve fired everything from target to magnum loads, and cycles flawlessly. I’ve put 400 rounds through it. I was going to get one last year, but I waited when I heard the problems. I honestly can’t be more pleased with this Python. I know a lot of guys had problems, I get it. Mine is a high serial number. And I paid what I think is a great price for it new $1650. Like I said, I’ve examined every inch of this gun, perfectly finished, and the trigger is smooth as glass, almost a hair trigger in SA, DA smooth as hell
I’m inclined to agree with everything you said I was lucky to get it at a decent price on launch but either way it’s truly a special firearm. While I love the 686, the Python is sentimental to me. I was 11 years old playing Resident evil and knew one day I’d own one. I would’ve paid $2000 for this firearm.
I was reading the posts and waited too before I got mine, i knew colt would work out any problem if people would start to post issues with their guns. I bought my Python in 2023 for $1425 and a in 2021 my Anaconda. No issues with either gun, the Python have had light primer strikes on CCI primers, I know these are a bit harder than others and this is why I buy them. It does not badger me as I can make/choose ammo with primers where this does not happen. I will get a blued version when they get more available, life is good 🙂
The price makes it a no go for me. I'll stick with Ruger.
Really ? have you handled a new Vaquero lately. Ruger quality has diminished since Bill Ruger passed. They = a suck factor of 6 IMHO.
@@DrNo-uq7xx ill admit that Rugers quality has dropped some. But every problem I’ve ever had with Ruger, they’ve fixed with no questions asked.
@@notdave2993 ruger has the best customer service
Agreed, they've helped me out when I stripped a bolt.
A lot of items in the gun world exemplify "Older is better ". I am afraid we have enjoyed the best days of cars and guns. Thanks for your videos.
Don't forget music.
No argument there Paul.
The new muscle cars are far and away better than the originals in every category but nostalgia. The new python not so much.
@@xxlxpman they're better in performance and efficiency only. The older cars look better, sound better, are simpler, and are more valuable. Plus with all the plastics and planned obsolescence, the newer muscle cars won't be around 50 years from now
You may be right about guns but not so much about cars. I drive a '16 Mazda MX-5/Miata. Compared to an MG-B, a similar sized car, it is orders of magnitude better. Look at muscle cars, today's crop are incredibly powerful, can actually go around corners and stop. I am 75, I remember the old cars, the new ones are much better.
if someone were to give me a Python as a gift I would certainly say "Thank you!" and probably even take it out an shoot it a bit, but I really don't think I would ever use cash from my own wallet to buy one!
Then I guess you don't want the best revolver that money can buy huh Arthur?
In 2019 my company gave me a $2000.00 gift card for my 35th company anniversary. I really wanted a Python but they were not available.So I held a King Cobra Target and a Ruger GP 100 plus. The Ruger felt so much more rugged and substantial that I bought it. Because of the lower cost, I was able to add a stainless Ruger Super Blackhawk, and an RIA 1911 in .38 Super. I feel like I made a good choice because I love all three.
Congrats on 35 years, an extreme rarity these days.
Im a Smith 686 man myself, many years of 100% satisfaction.
@@panthermartin7784 Thanks. My son has a 686 and I love it.
But you still don’t own a Python.
The above mentioned issues are no longer. With the prices of all guns going up across the board I think the price is fair. I’ve seen a few samples early on that had fitment concerns but the latest models have been pristine. Don’t be afraid to buy one they are good to go.
I'm a revolver guy and collector, but I'm going to hold off until CZ takes over.
Me too..........
You are a wise man.
CZ owns Dan Wesson. You'd think that if CZ bought out Colt that they already have a passionate revolver department enthusiastically willing to recreate a jewel of a handgun.
@@j.mangum7652 that's what I'm hoping for. These days being divorced is great because I can spend my money how I want to. Just one question, can you own to many gun's? ( Lol ).
@@richardcolligon4277 To which I answer: There no such thing as too much freedom :)
Picked up my new (2021 model) Colt Python SS 357 Mag 6” barrel about 10 months ago & love this badass firearm! After approx. 1800 rds (mostly 357 mag & a few hundred 38 special) this Python has proved to be a solid, reliable firearm. Not one issue and it looks fantastic!! Add this to your collection and enjoy the experience from Colt. I liked the Python so much, I also picked up Colt’s 1911 Government model, Combat Unit 9mm in 5” barrel. Another great firearm from Colt in the 1911 frame. Bottom line is Colt still has IT!
The 686 + Smith is a better deal for the same basic weapon.
100% agree
@@drdrake63 I don't like the metallic sound the 686+ makes when dry fired (yeah yeah yeah, snap caps, blah blah blah). The older S&Ws don't do that. I have a pre 27 (357 magnum) which is nice. Very nice. So are my 2 Pythons (original).
The new Python doesn't fall short.
Look, if you bitch about price-tags, then go with what you can afford.
As far as functionality goes, you can get a nice wheel gun for very affordable prices nowadays. Whatever makes you happy. No need to bash the things you can't afford.
The 686 is a superior weapon,half the price.
what do you think of the ruger super Redhawk? i bought one its a .44 and right out of the box it had cylinder issues, it would bind up after a few shots. i sent it back to ruger and they fixed the issue. the adjusted the gap between the cylinder and the barrel and also crowned the barrel. and they fixed the timing issue. but i loved the colt anaconda it was such a sexy looking gun up close. i probably could have got a better gun, who knows!
Can you find out why it is difficult to get barrels for Thompson Center Encore/Prohunter. Thompson Center will not tell their vendors when they will be available.
Thanks for the opinion. I’m going along with the 99% of the people who praised the Python in your comments section. The 4.25” is now on sale at Midway for $1352.00 plus free shipping. I’m stoked about it. 👍🏻
I heard that the coiled Springs used in those revolvers on the triggers mostly cause the problems. Is that true? I'm a Smith & Wesson guy myself, but I owned several "D" frames as a young man.
Point of order. Charger is now and always has been a Dodge.
I didn't know they still made the Dodge Charger, so I looked it up and well... they call it a Charger, but to me it looks just like any other butt ugly car made today. However, the Dodge Challenger is a really cool car that I wish I could afford.
The new king cobra is amazing. I can't wait to get a python and anaconda
I have a late 60's 4 inch in RB. I love the firearm. I once had an 6 inch in US and wish I had not parted with it.
A good friend who always wanted to purchase my 4 inch (which is not for sale) ended up purchasing a new one when they came out. We had a few hiccups with his. The worst being you would pull the trigger and sometimes the cylinder just would not advance. He ended up sending it in and they fixed it for him and he has been happy every since.
I also got a chance to play around with a 4.25 when they came out. And the one I handled was actually surprisingly well put together. I believe Colt has worked the kinks out and would recommend them to anyone wanting a Python without paying the classic price.
I am kinda interested in picking up a 6 inch now. And I hope to own one soon.
Thoughts on the Ruger Security Six?
Absolutely agree with you. Colt has been resting on their laurels and days of glory for the last 4 decades. While its a shame it has to be taken over by a foreign company, CZ makes very high quality products and shows interest in being both creative and innovative.
I can't get enough of CZ. They're into quality.
Many of your favorite companies are owned, or partially owned, by foreign investors. Colt has many decades of non-gun industry management but also has many decades of industry-invested management and has set the standard for many handguns and combat-style rifles. CZ has its manufacturing problems as well, just like H&K, Glock, FN, Sig Sauer...who have inventory recalled from active combat area or contracts for "upgrades". ALL manufacturers, not just the ones you like to hate.
Just purchased the 4.25 barreled version, it’s a smooth as any revolver I have ever held in my hand fit and finish is fantastic.
I will stick with my much more reasonable smiths!
I have a 686 ,651, 36 , and a 43c with plenty ammo for each that I have way less in collectively than the cost of a new python re=pop.
I have 4 or 5 really nice smith 357’s and didn’t pay what they want for a python for the whole lot!
I have to agree 100%.
@@WalnutandSteel And someone has 5 'really nice' Chevettes and didn't pay what they want for a Lamborghini...
To each his own. The comparison isn’t even close.
Mr. Drake, you express my sentiments exactly. Nobody should spend $1,600 for a piece of junk.
Correct. I would thus not have bought the 686 had it cost $1600...
I don’t know man if I had throw away money I wouldn’t mind owning one
Just bought a new one 3 days ago. All i can say is WOW this thing is so smooth and so accurate. Love it to death. Wanted one for well over a decade. I'll do a video on it tomo and put it on my channel if anyone would like to see it in action!!
Got one for a Christmas present, no problems with it, great action, very smooth, and very accurate. Use it for my everyday carry weapon, it's the 6 inch model but not really that hard to conceal. I am very happy with it.
That’s one sweet Xmas fist man enjoy!!
I agree with you DR. I have a Colt Python vintage 1992 paid $500 for it but it was a handcrafted classic Colt Python 6 inch royal blue just a beautiful revolver!
I had a black parkerized 4 inch Python with Pachmyr grips back in the early 90's. It was a beautiful gun. I wouldn't pay what they're asking for them now though
No one is forcing you to.
I would rather have my Trooper Mark 3
Who's stopping you?
I am a new gun owner. I purchased my first fire arm last month which was a glock 17. I enjoyed going to the range and I am going to pick up a colt python the new one tomorrow. My preliminary research told me that because the new version is cnc cut , its more crisp. Newer tech means better is what people are saying. I am far from an expert as I already mentioned i am an extreme newbie. I appreciate the sentiment that the classic challenger or charger has its own charm compared to the new cars. And recalls are a normal things when it comes to new cars. So the bottom line is should i not buy the new one in your opinion?
You should buy one. If you hate it, you can always resell it for close to what you paid to it. Stay safe!
Years ago I parted with my 6 inch blued Python. Took the plunge on a new one, and mine had the cycling issue. I knew there was a chance this would happen. Sent it back and turn-around was about 4 weeks. I know have a beautiful revolver, and can stop beating myself for letting my old one go. More than likely, will get the Anaconda to round out my snake gun collection (already have the King Cobra). I was disappointed to have to send it back, and hope CZ will get Colt sorted.
Ive been a gunsmith for a while now. Old pythons compared to new pythons i can tell you one does not function any better than the other. They both perform great. Everytime a big name manufacturer comes out with something or is re-releasing something you get a lot of haters out to knock it. Next thing you know you get falsely written articles claiming things like light primer strikes or cylinder lock up because its the first falsely accused issue they can make up off the top of their head. If you want a good 357mag i can give you an actual fact that a new colt python will do the job and last a lifetime so long as you dont do something like double charge a 357 case when reloading and fire it in which any ruger or colt will lock up and if its a s&w the frame will break among other things.
I like Colt revolvers and owned 2 of the original Pythons. I guess I got lucky when I bought my 2021 6” Python. The trigger is better than I remember on my early Pythons, fit and finish is excellent, it’s been very reliable and I think it’s kinda cool! To your point, I do missing the rich bluing, but SS is way more durable. I think it’s worth the $1,449 I paid for it. I also bought a 3” King Cobra, and as practical self defense revolver, I like it even better than the Python! Still love my Ruger GP100, SP101, S&W 686 & 642 too!
Anyone who ran out and bought a python when they first came back was basically a test audience…and should’ve waited for the bugs to be worked out.
only issue I've head were mostly finish issues and different trigger that's kind of hard to get used to would be nice if they weren't as expensive though but they are fine revolvers so they know who to target in sales
I have 357 mag revolvers from colt dan Wesson Smith and Taurus. Honestly I find myself shooting my Taurus the most and it was by far the least expensive. My dad has a Smith 586 n ruger gp 100 in 357and a Taurus in 44 . All great guns but he seems to prefer his smith
@patrick henry if ur out there shooting ur a fine person in my book!!!
I don't think I could drop the cash they are asking for the Python. I did run across a King Cobra Target recently, and picked it up. Very smooth action, and I don't see where the Python would be any smoother. If I can find ammo for this thing, I will get it to the range. In my area, .357 and .38 Special are scarce. I did see your video on the King Cobra, but the one you had did not have the night sight on the front and the adjustable sight on the rear.
Some of the old pytons had light primer syrikes too. Had a friend buy a factory tuned one in 82 that wouldnt fire about 25 perceny of the time
I used to have a Python, bought it at a gun show for 230 dollars talked down from 275. It was a stubnose with nickle finish. At the time it was a awesome deal but still only so cheap because it was a weird gun being what it was and a stubnose. Like maybe a 2 inch barrel. The one I really wanted blued and 6inch barrel with white pearl grips would have costed around 500-600 at the time I bought that one. I loved how smooth the action was. Nothing I ever had before or after came close to the smoothness of that action. I can't believe how high the prices on them are now.
I have owned a S&W 686 Stainless Beautiful Gun and solid as a Bank Vault Also a S&W 586 In Blued Finish both were Great shooters and handled 357 Mag full loads very well...Owned one or! two Colts in 38spl Nice But never Missed on Having a Snake Gun..
I have one of the 6” 2020 pythons with a lowish serial number definitely before CZ bought Colt and as of now I have probably shot 350 to 400 rounds of .357 out of it and have yet to have a problem with my python, it has came to be my most favorite handgun I own, I just wish I had more ammo to put through it!
Chiappa Rhino 60ds or Colt Python?
I've been wanting one for some time, albeit tempered by my GP-100. Unfortunately, I have yet to see one in the wild, so I can't even consider it. I won't buy something like this sight unseen. Same goes for the re-released Anaconda.
I bought a new Colt Python my understanding they corrected all the problems that trigger pull feels heavy to me the double action is consistent.. I haven't had a chance to fire it but when I do I will bench rested at 25 yards and I expect it to drive a tac.. yes I think I need to have a trigger job done on it I want to figure about 3 lb it doesn't feel 3 pounds on single action
As a decades long Colt 'cult' customer I humbly concur and add '2' " cencts " Colt Pythons and Troopers, and the Mark III line, used to be superior before Ruger 's "'Six"' line and the introduction of the S&W L frame, and the -6 K frames advancing to frame mounted firing pins. Theoretically the clockwise cylinder rotation and bolt stop holes being cut between chambers instead of over the weakest part of the cylinder wall makes convincing engineering sense at least to novices and laymen as we all once were when new shooters. But the failure until now to use stainless steels and the business mismanagement decision that spare parts to keep classic guns still shooting are being allowed to dry up has lost my confidence to have kept treasured first revolvers or buy the new ones. I already sold or gave away all the dinosaur fossils to family members and keep only one Colt as a momento but have replaced the Pony wheelgun collection with counterparts from Ruger and Smith & Wesson to have sidearms that I can shoot and repair and maintain as necessary without the worry that if a part or spring breaks now that gun is just a paperweight. Maybe CZ will remedy this, watching to give them a fair chance.
Great insight
Most companies reach a place in manufacturing where they no longer support legacy firearms. Try calling CZ and see it they'll supply parts and service for their Model 50, 52, Scorpion, 58, 26, 53 or 60. Everyone moves on. I don't like it but that's the life of a manufacturer. I can't get Chevrolet to supply parts for cars made in the 1990's. Aftermarket, yes, but OEM...no.
@@Rustebadge I concur with your insight wholeheartedly and interpret it as an affirmation of my own humble remark. And that is why platforms like the 111+ year old 1911/2011 persist, plenty of parts and service and technician specialists. The High Power approaches this reverence with the Turks and Springfield embracing it. Classic Colt revolvers are now trophies, heirloom legacies, collectibles and emergency shooters only, as using these to the point of needing a tuneup or repair will only devalue and render them into junk. Kimber, and now Henry offer competitive options to S&W and Ruger. The new Colts are a different breed from the prdicessors.
Have you seen the bluing on the current SAA , Colt can still offer a killer bluing option but have elected not to release a blued Python. Why?
Saw this at joes sporting maplewood rice st. Naa, my new s&w 686+ is just fine!
So is my new Ford Escort.
@@shockwave6416 Best for what?
@@shockwave6416 Best in what sense?
@@shockwave6416 The 686+ is affordable and a nice shooter. Enjoy. The Python is more of a showy piece. If you're in it just for shooting purposes, the 686+ may be a smarter choice. The difference in price will buy you some ammo which you can use to practice and become a better shooter.
Having said that, it is really silly to say one gun is better than the other. There are many aspects in a firearm that mean different things to different people. What is better for you, is not necessarily better for everyone else. Perhaps it is more proper to say that you like one better than the other.
Happy shooting.
Lol
I have owned classic Pythons starting back in the 70's. There is nothing magical about them. They were just Colt Officers Model Match revolvers with a vent rib full underlug barrel. They were slick as glass because of the polishing that was done on them. It had a very old lock work design. The handwork that went into those guns is almost gone for a mass produced item like the Python. I would love to work the action of one of the new Pythons to compare it to the old. Bottom line, if Colt call's it a Python then it's a Python.
I bought the 6,4 inch python and the colt king cobra target model. These guns from Colt I have not experienced any malfunctions. I can't wait to get the 2121 Colt Anaconda. I do prefer old S&W's 686,19,66,29,629 and so fourth over the old colts and new colts. Dig your videos keep up the great work.
I've had the pleasure of firing S&W 686 about 7 years ago using .357 ammo. I had recently purchased a .40 cal Springfield XD and the 686 using .357 ammo was a lot more controllable and exciting. It felt like driving a top-of-the-line Bentley (which I have) compared to any German car. There's just no comparison when it comes to the ultimate driving machine--the Bentley Flying Spur. I feel the same about the 686. I even fired several Glocks in various calibers and not even the 9mm Glock comes close to the 686's smoothness and, to me, minimal recoil. If it wasn't for capacity, I'd rather have a 686 than any semi-auto except for a CZ and possibly a S&W M&P subcompact 2.0. I've always been interested in testing out the Python but it seems that many who have experienced shooting both the 686 and Python prefer the 686. Maybe the Python is like a Rolls Royce, which is probably a little more refined than a Bentley but not in terms of performance. Even Hitchcock 45 tested both side by side and he prefers the 686.
A python is like a 911 Turbo S and a 686 is a 911 Turbo. They are both phenomenal, modern revolvers made in a repeatable mass produced way. Much like auto bodies became cad files welded together by robots. If you find that the python activates your neurons more than the 686 you won't go wrong. Honestly my worse fear owning a python is that I'll drop it on pavement one day. No problem with a smith ha
The thing I have noticed from both the new Smiths and the new Colts is that they have complementary strengths. In terms of mechanical function, the other succeeds where the other might not. The Python, to me, has the smoother DA trigger, and the wider hammer tongue makes cocking the SA hammer easier. The 686, to me, has the better SA trigger and trigger reset. These are specifically regarding out of the box conditions. Both can be tuned to preference. The Ruger GP100 also enters with a similar relationship in strengths, as they are usually heavier, which helps with dampening recoil and potential durability. Plus, they have a simpler mechanical system and assembly for stripping and cleaning., and can be tuned to be plenty smooth themselves.
3 fantastic and easily accesible iconic 357 revolvers with 3 different priorities at 3 different price points. I've said it too often, but we are truly in a golden age of firearms. Whatever is most important for you, there is an appropriate option. Yet if you crack open each of these similar looking and operating revolvers, you'll see how differently they work, which helps you appreciate the ingenuity of each company. I know a lot of people prize older revolvers because of the design/aesthetic differences, but the newer stuff is really something special, too. Technology has come a long way, so whether it's vintage or modern, appreciate what you have. It's almost always worth it.
I dont know much about the python, but I did purchase a new king cobra when thay came out. Loved the gun. Great handling, easy shooting, nice trigger. BUT! it did not take long to ware it out.
Interesting. You shot it loose?
@@shockwave6416 yes. I was using every Wednesday at the bowling pin shoot. It did not take long to get the gun loose. I took it to very reliable gun smith. He said it was all used up. I sent it back to the factory, but thay were no help.
@@martintodd8219 wow. So I should get a Smith and wesson? 686?
@@shockwave6416 yes you would not be disappointed in the Smith.
And then there is the question of parts and qualified smiths to work on them....
A better choice would be a 686 or gp100
... for those who can't afford the Python.
@@jekyljacobson I can afford it and went with the Smith (I have about a dozen SW revolvers). Smiths are easier to work on and turn out smoother than the python.
@@rapidrrobert4333 Good for you. Not necessarily better for everyone. ‘Better’ is a very loose term.
I just bought one bc well, I've always wanted to own a COLT! Now with that said, my only issues is the handle. Not liking the way and discomfort of holding it. On my snub 357 S&W, it has a combat grip that makes it feel like butter in my hands. I'm hoping I'll be able to switch it out to more of a fatter/rounded style grip.
I would pay $200 more than a 686 for the Python, but not $550 more. I’ll have to stay with the plainer Smith.
I don't blame you I won't pay that kind money for a revolver either
When I took my gunsmith course. They warned you of 2 guns in particular. The Colt Python (the first gen). And fine European double rifles. Python because parts are hard to get and double rifles because as they said. You best have a love and devote alot of time because one messup with one. And your profits just took flight. As fine tuned as Pythons are. I didn't want to spend the $700.00 for one knowing that eventually I would end up sending it back in once enough shooting knocked it out of whack. I'm not into collecting so if I did have one. Most likely I would put it up for sale. But each to his own.
I didn’t buy one because it’s stainless, not blued.
Love mine! To each his own.
Glad to hear this.
Completely happy with mine. Deer Hollow grips and Wilson Combat sights are the only mods I've done. I'm a bit over $2 grand into the gun and it's my favorite gun to bring to the range. Over a thousand rounds through it and not a problem and it's accurate as all get out. Money well spent for this plinker.
I really enjoy my 2020 Python. It is accurate as hell, finished perfectly and perfectly reliable. I seems to kick less that even my N-Frame 4" Highway Patrolman and they both wear Pachmayr Presentation grips that fit my hand perfectly...The single action is NOT as good as my Smiths, but the double action is better than any of my Smiths with absolutely NO stacking.
Exactly, the double action is better than any of my performance center S&Ws. The single action is better on the S&Ws but I rarely shoot SA.
Got a S&W 586, the money that was for one of the new pythons got put towards a new Desert Eagle in 357! Maybe I'll get a python after CZ has had it for awhile.
I’m definitely getting one. If the original was the same price as the 2020, I’d go with the 2020.
My 2022 python 6” runs perfect , never had an issue and looks amazing 🌟must of got a good one.
I have a 6, 4 inch pythons and 4inch King Cobra. They all function perfectly. I can't wait to get the Colt Anaconda in about 3 weeks as of this posting. Absolutely beautiful revolvers.
I’d purchased the new Cobra 2” when it arrived. Big disappointment and the reason I’ll not be choosing any new Colt revolvers.
Good Video. LET'S HOPE THAT CZ CAN REPAIR THE BRAND!!!!!!
I’ve got a 1960s 4 inch blued python that I bought for my dad in 1972 for $325. I gave it to him and he never fired it. He gave it back to me about 20 years ago. I’m an older guy now and I’ve lost interest in lots of the things that we are dear to me so it’s going to be sold here pretty soon. It’s in excellent shape so it should go for way more than $325😂
Unfired 4" Python from 1972, WOW!
@@travisbickle5984 not unfired but my dad and I have had it since 72 and I’ve probably only fired 20 rounds. He never did fire it while it was in his possession. It’s in great condition doesn’t even have holster were at the muzzle.
I have a 4 inch blue Python that I sold to my dad in 1979 when I worked at a local mom and pop sporting good store. 1979 was the year I graduated at 17. Originally I sold it to him for 289.00. He carried one shift for the San Bernardino County Sheriff's office and that was it. He said it was too nice a piece to get beat up chasing felons! The python had one 50 round box of ammo through it since 1979. He passed in 2007 from cancer, and he gave it to me 3mos. Before he passed.
@@sweetdrahthaar7951do you still have it? I'm interested
@@sdriza yes and it will be going on the block one of these days. It’s that time in life.
Oh man you really pissed me off !!!!
JUST KIDDUNG, I had been wanting to buy a Colt Python since I was a little kid. So in my 21st birthday back in the 80s I was standing at the door cash in hand and I bought my Colt Python brand new.
It's been a love affair since the 80s. I bought my anaconda brand new in 91, what a joyous occasion, Santa Claus NEVER made me this happy.
By the way, I really like your channel and I hope you go far.
The gun is pricey but I can guarantee they are cranking them out like it’s no tomorrow
I really like the new king cobra target and cobra I bought. I stopped carrying my S&W 686 plus.
I have a knowledgeable FFL dealer friend , that agrees with you 100%. Sticking with Rugers slicked up a bit. Thanks
THE RUGERS ARE TANKS = BUT THERE GREAT TANKS = LOVE EM
Think I will stick my old S&W model 27 it’s like an old friend have owned it over 40 years.
Great gun
My first revolver purchase was in 1980. A beautiful 4 inch Blue Python. While I liked it, I never loved it. Wound up trading it for $200 plus a new 4 Inch 586 S&W. I never had any real regrets about the deal.
Pro'ly because you got high on the $200
I have a Python made in 1967 and it was nib when I bought it in 1987. I when that night to a indoors range. I put 100 357 mag rounds through it. I love it ,my trooper and my Cobra . I will wait and what CZ does.
I kind of doubt CZ will invest in producing a revolver that will have to cost what many don't feel justified.
Glad to have your opinion. It coincides with most of the people that I've heard discuss this new version of the Python.
I'll stick with Pinned and recessed N frames.
Be careful. Nowadays even the initial N can make you a racist
Yep. Money best spent elsewhere. Caveat Emptor. Thanks for the video, David!
I’ll stick with my early 1980s Python in perfect blue. Paid $500 for it back then
Yup, you’re a lucky man to be sure. I have watched them go through the roof since the 70s and just lost interest.
I got one of those too, its gorgeous.
I traded a roll of toilet paper for one of those last year!
I'd rather pay the extra $1,100 for a new Python and be 40 years younger thanks.
I think you struck out on this video.
Me, i have 2 vintage pythons and bought a new one. No issues. Quality well built guns
Totally disagree. You didn’t get a lemon, that doesn’t change the fact that a lot of people did.
As clearly stated at the end of this video, nothing more than an opinion rant. I’m glad you like yours. I take no joy in hearing about guys he spent their hard-earned money on something they didn’t like
@@drdrake63 yep...its just MY opinion from real world experience. Not hearsay.
@@gman77gas I have " real world" experience with a new Cobra and it was a negative. Sent back to Colt twice for trigger/hammer issues. MIM hammer shearing in two at the area of the mold casting marks at 300 rounds . Cylinder lockup then complete failure. No plus P just using standard pressure ammo. Poor trigger return speed that induces short stroke lockup on rapid fire drills. Nice gun to look at,but a failure in the field where failure is not an option.
@@williamryan7403 sucks to be you
@@gman77gas Ok. What's your point? I told the truth about Colt or what they've become. They aren't living up to their own standards in both build quality and polite customer service. So sorry you got your feelings hurt. Maybe it really sucks to be yourself being so sensitive and all.
I waited 13 months after I put my deposit down to receive my 4.25" Python. I have had zero issues with mine. I've put hundreds of rounds of magnums through it. The problems you mentioned were addressed by Colt and fixed
Im about to get mine. Im so excited😂🎉
@@Majistr I did order the front and rear replacement sights from Wilson Combat for my Python. They were on back order too, but I got them in about 6 weeks. I put the gold bead on the front sight
@@troyspurling1910 thats sounds fuckin sweet dude. I didnt know wilson made Python parts😵
@@Majistr Bill Wilson is a big fan of Pythons. He used to compete with a Python and has a very nice collection of them. When the new 2020 Python came out, his only criticism was the sights so he decided to have Wilson Combat make better sights for us. Congratulations on getting your Python. Hopefully it's a keeper for you
@@troyspurling1910 thanks so much! Funny enough in getting the 4.25" version too
I had been looking to buy a python for years but couldn't justify the 3,500+ dollars for an older one. I bought one in March and immediately took it to the range. Cylinder got stuck and I had to send it back to colt. Incredibly frustrating consider I spent a little over 1,700. Got it back 6 weeks later. With all that being said I'd buy it again. Shoots like a dream, one of the best looking/shooting revolvers ever made.
My Python bought this week is the first gun I own that I never intend to modify, polish, or alter.
I was excited for the new Python just because the worth of my originals has out stripped my want to shoot them. When it comes to firearms. I am firmly on the Colt side for 1911s, and S&W for revolvers.
I was also one of the first ones to get their hands on a 2020 Python. I paid MSRP and had it in January of 2020. Firstly I will say mine did not exhibit any issues noted by others. Secondly I was impressed with the overall build quality of the gun. It had an action as nice as my originals, and shot as well too.
That said. I was not happy with the laminate wood grips. I was pissed off that Colt made promises on things like sight options, but never delivered, and I wish the gun was in Royal blue.
I wanted that gold bead sight that was promised. Colt says to contact Brownells, Brownells don't know what the hell Colt was talking about and told me to contact Colt. After a year and two months of monthly messages to Colt with offers to buy the sight, they just sent me one to shut me up.
I am glad I bought the gun, and don't have any buyer's remorse. I do agree that Colt should had all their ducks in a row before relaunching a flag ship gun. There are not a lot of options for a half way decent target revolver anymore. S&W's QC has seemed to have left the building, as well as their junk locks. Rugers are overbuilt to be sure, but crude and not refined. I refuse to buy Taurus, already have a couple big Dans, and won't consider import guns. Not much left other than older Smiths.
Used to have one...wanted a new one & I see the initial problems have been fixed so I just purchased one...I'll let you know what I think....I do have the 686+, and 629,610, & even the 500....plus a Ruger Match Champion in 10mm...So I like wheel guns...Plus (4) CZ's which are terrific, and Sigs...so I have good taste and varied taste as well...FN 5.7....Desert Eagle....stay tuned.
Very interested in your feedback. I suspect they have made adjustments and fix some of the early problems. Still overpriced for what you get that’s just my opinion
@@drdrake63 I love people's opinions. It gives things another perspective. It can be educational. I know what to look out for. I will be reporting on my hands on experience after a few hundred rounds.
I'm going to disagree. Yes they had a few teething issues, but I think they have responded well with a fix.
Colt took a huge gamble with these guns ( Cobra, King Cobra and the Python), I'd say it was a success for all 3... with few problems, on totally new redesigns.
Colt has changed hands many times in the last 40 years. I think they were on a good path, towards giving their customers what they wanted, Snake guns.
S&W, Sig, FN and every other company had issues as well. They were all fixed and now make fantastic guns.
This is something whining individuals never get. Oh, I paid X amount of money for something I couldn't really afford and found something to bitch about.
I would agree. I was a little worried when I made the purchase but at the point when I made the purchase the claim was these issues had been resolved. I have had mine for over a year now and have put many rounds through it both in .357 and .38 and I have had zero issues.
Well I paid $3150aud for mine when most gunshops were selling for between $3.5-4.8k aud, mid 7k serial number, over 2.5k rounds through mine with a mix of .38spl and .357mag (S&B and Winchester) and have never had any issues with my gun, I've even run about 100 round 9f cowboy reloads through it when one of my Ubertis was in for a warranty issue.
For the large price tag, it had to be perfect. Unfortunately it had failures which damaged the brand name ''Python ''
Well, at least he points out it's just his opinion.
That said, I've heard these issues have been resolved by cz / colt and I just pulled the trigger on one. Only one to find out and I will actually have an opinion based on owning and actually shooting a late 2021 colt.
The old Python is a legend, the new Python is even better. Thanks to CNC machining and better internals, hands down my best firearm to date. The 3 inch combat elite is awesome.
You are definitely allowed your opinion. I own one of these Pythons and I love it. The trigger pull compared to the blue Pythons of old is remarkable. So I love it you don't but if a poll was taken I believe you would be in the minority on this one.
So you offer an opinion on a gun you haven’t shot or handled ?
I’ve both shot AND handled the gun.
@@drdrake63 One out of hundreds if not thousands.
I bought a new one and am really impressed that it can be even compared to the original Python. My hat is off to COLT! My only complaint is that many of us shooters and collectors do all our own gunsmithing and parts unavailability is a real problem. Many companies offer service but no parts. It's not a selling point to me.