My s&w 27 best handgun I ever had ….. I can’t lie though I have a 1858 Remington 44 black powder remake by peita and that thing is fun too but if my life depended on it on it I would have the 27 in my hand without question ok a shotgun but u get what I am sayin
My first 357 magnum revolver was a Colt. My last 357 magnum revolver was a S&W model 27-2. The S&W model 27-2 is now my personal favorite revolver and my personal favorite handgun.
I'm 73 and have owned multiples of both since the 1980's and still do. I like shooting the S&Ws, but like looking at/admiring the Colts. They both are fine shooting revolvers, but the S&Ws just fit my hand better.
Beyond my dad's 1917 vintage 1911, his 4-inch S&W .357 Mag was his favorite. I now have both. I've never handled a Python on the range, only in his collection. That he sold the Python and kept the S&W tells me a lot. He was an Army sniper in Korea, a member of the President's Hundred, a firearms instructor and gunsmith. I love the Model 27-2. It shoots like a Cadillac and runs .38 special for fun and .357 mag on payday! George Patton called his model 27 his "killing gun." Now the old 1911? Crude but fun. It's more agricultural but a literal blast to shoot.
I have owned a model 27 for 50+ years (8 3/8"), It is still a beautiful and good shooting revolver. Never owned a Python, but I do own a Diamondback, sort of a 'baby' Python. I like them both but in a pinch, I'd dump the Colt first.
Going to pick up the 357 python magnum that my dad bought in 1955 from the guy he sold it to Saturday. Can't wait to get that one back in the family and back to the range.
Their was a time in America when two gun company’s made two wonderful guns😊 and it is nice to read about the men who grew up them and the younger men have come to love them too😊 I am one of those older men! You have to love them both like children & enjoy them both!
I have a model 27 6 1/2 barrel and I haven't shot a finer gun. I put all my AR's and semi auto handguns in the closet and haven't looked back. It's gorgeous to look at, .38 special is so nice to shoot, and . 357 is not bad either with the long barrel. If you find one pick it up. I really don't think anyone who enjoys shooting would regret it.
Double down on that. I have model 28 with a 6 inch barrel which is the budget version - bluing not as nice but the trigger is pure glass. I will never sell that pistol as long as I live.
The pre 27 smith was assembled by one person after it became the 27 they changed it,if anyone has both they can tell the difference,the pre 27 is super smooth just like the pyhtons,I got the pre 27 the python and a Smith and Wesson made in 1980 the newer one is much heavier trigger pull ,the pre 27 also has a deeper brighter blueing.
I’ve had both still have my blued 70s 6” Python. My first handgun was a M-27 8” blued. The S&W is on the N Frame which has extra steel on the frame & cylinder. What he says is true the 27 will handle heavy loads longer. But who goes to the range and only shoots .357 all day long. Both Excellent Revolvers🇺🇸
Why own a .357 if you aren't going to shoot .357? Might as well have bought a colt diamondback .38. .357 isn't even bad to shoot, but I guess some people can't handle it.
If the 27 is too large and you want a smaller easier to handle and carry worthy 357, get a model 19 or 66. The POA and ergo are perfect. If you want a safe queen, buy the Colt.
I gotta go with the S&W Model 27 due to the fact that it handles the magnums so well; that N frame is a beast. The Colt is beautiful, however, and I'd love to own one but def not for the $2-3k they are going for right now. My decision has nothing to do with the fact that I carry my S&W Model 27-2 six inch when out on the trail at all! Nope it doesn't. ;)
I own different barrel lengths of each and they are both very good revolvers. I favor the Model 27-2's over the Python because the Python is so fragile. Now I'm talking about the original Colt Pythons not the ones that they came out with recently. If an internal part breaks, and they will, you can't fix it. My buddy's 4" Python fell out of the zipper bag and onto the concrete shooting table, a fall of about a foot and the revolver wouldn't function. He took it to his gunsmith who said no way, send it back to Colt. While the Python is as smooth as glass it's also just as fragile and that is my only complaint about the revolver.
I have a model 28 that I would give up for love, but never for money. I bought it in about 1981 and the model 27 was a bit more pricey for a 21 year-old.. They don't make them like they used to. That pistol has a crisper trigger in single-action that any rifle I have ever fired.
I carried a colt python in the early 70’s as a deputy sheriff no autos allowed great weapon I think I paid around $125 used but like new no mark on the cylinder I just loved it .
The model 27 is a tank of a handgun. A .357 magnum built on a .44 magnum sized frame. Its beef, its reliable, parts are available and easy to fit, and comes is a wide varietie of barrel lengths from 2½" to 8⅜". Its honestly one of my all time favorite handguns. I want an 8⅜ model personally
I have owned a Smith 27-2 (target hammer, target trigger, P&R’ed, chamfered, five-inch barrel, square butt, red ramp front sight and fully adjustable rear sight) for many years. It’s EXTREMELY accurate, reliable and durable. It shoots everything very well. It’s an N Frame (large and heavy), but it soaks up recoil marvelously. I cannot think of a single thing I’d change on it . . . and I would never sell or trade it. It can be used for just about everything I’d practically want: defense, hunting, target shooting, and plinking . . . and with every conceivable .38 Special or .357 magnum round.
It's an age-old argument as to which is better and the myths about them never seem to die. I've owned and sold them both in the past but now I keep a nickeled M-27-2 and two "Ultimates" in my safe.
They are both Gorgeous revolvers. But for Me. I like The Smith & Wesson model 27. I'm a Smith & Wesson collector. An That 5 inch model 27 just gets my goat. I have a thing for pre lock Smith's. Especially the blued ones...
My favorite revolver caliber. I have a recent 686, but my 28-2 Highway Patrol is my favorite go to for hot loads. In a defensive firearm, I'll go for durability and reliability over looks any day.
I'd have to give my vote to the smith model 27 a true workhorse feels like an understatement. From 1935 until somewhere in the late 80s early 90s when Glock was giving there guns away to law enforcement to be the new sidearm. That's a long time for the model 27 and considered to be the most powerful handgun available until the 44 came along. I definitely want to own one
My Very First Handgun was a Colt Python 6" barrel I Purchased in 1980 "Lightly Used" Excellent Condition, I Now have Finally Gotten A Smith &Wesson 27-2 ,6" Barrel to Go with it. That Full checkered top rib is Really Something Special. Don't have a Favorite, Don't Have to Now !!
I used to read my grandad's old guns & ammo magazines when I was younger and I fell in love with the python because of the article saying it was the most accurate revolver on the market (allegedly) kinda bummed it couldn't handle hotloads.
I love the fit, finish, beauty of the Python. However, in law enforcement academy shooting class, I and other students had Smith and Wessons, and had no problems. Two students had Pythons, and both broke springs and were out of action the first morning of shooting. What a disappointment.
Had the same thing happen in the first year of owning my previous shelf queen python. This was when Colt was in one of their many bankruptcy’s and they were not producing revolvers or making spare parts or for that matter working on guns for service. It was very difficult finding parts and almost impossible finding a gunsmith willing to work on one.
The model S&W Model 27 was the first modern revolver specifically designed for .357 and .38 and was a huge success. My only change to the S&W would shorten the rear sight plate so the front screw that holds the plate down ends up closer to the middle of the cylinder. 😎🇦🇺👍
I own both and the Python is a little better in nearly every regard. It's true that if you run a lot of heavy .357 through one you'll have to replace a timing hand after awhile but that's not that difficult and was something Colt knew about and planned for. The trade off is that the Colt locks up much tighter than the Smith and at distances of 50 yards or more it starts showing that it is more accurate.
Excellent! Finally a good explanation on the philosophy of design/use of the Colt Pythons The S&W Three Five Seven (model 27) was released in 1935. It was built to handle continuous use of very hot. 357 magnum loads and it does. I love my model 27 and had add a 5" because of Skeeter Skelton. The 4" also works fine. But the 'FBI' 3 1/2" just looks 'Bad' IMHO Finally a good explanation of what the Pythons were designed to do. They were ment to be target guns fired single action. Those that complain about its double action don't understand What they were designed for. Also when the Colt Python and S&W Combat Magnum were designed, most police officers trained with 38 special and those that could carried. 357 magnum but didn't train with magnum loads. When police departments started to train with .357 magnum rounds the guns started to fall apart except for the model 27 and its plain Jane counterpart the model 28 Highway patrol. This is why S&W brought out the 586 & 686 slightly larger stronger .357 magnums made to handle continuous use of .357 loads. Ruger's answer was the excellent GP100. Pythons will shoot a long time without problems if you shoot 38 Specials and use them in single action. Hopefully the New 2020 Pythons will have good single and double actions and be able to handle using a steady diet of 357 magnums. Also hopefully Colt will solve the teething problems they've had with early production 2020 Pythons. If you don't have a S&W model 27 or 28 get one!! Cheers
Model 27 is the second revolver I ever owned. Got the pythons several years later. The Smith and Wesson model 28 is pretty much a model 27 just not as finally finished. You can get one of those for under a grand. Look on GunBroker at pythons some guys will work with you and do a layaway and you can pay it off over time unless you’re willing to give up your firstborn. Lol 😂
I have a Model 27 with 8 3/8 pinned barrel 80s vintage with recessed cylinder. The high luster blue finish is awesome. Fit and finish is amazing. On to of all that it is extremely accurate. I wish I had a Python also however price has exceeded value for me. So if choosing either today, I would choose the vintage 27 as would likely have a much better priice.
I carried a model 27 on duty. It was a great gun! But I still remember how heavy it was. This was back in early 70s. It was a police gun I had to turn in but I sure wish I still had it today. Thank you Brownels! As fine as the Python is I'd love to have the 27 S. & W.
I've owned a high quality Colt Python which was exquisite allright, in fact, it was fit so tight that it did not make a good shooter for me, so I traded it off for a nice Silverado pickup truck.
My grandfather had a Colt Python .38 Target special that was just cool as can be, but it didn't shoot anywhere near as good as his S&W Model 1955 (25-2) .45 ACP N-Frame. I love N-Frames and the Model 27 just oozes "beef".
I have had a few different Pythons mainly because of the looks of the vent rib but I sold them because I have always preferred the Model 27 because it just felt better in my hand. As far as accuracy goes I have always found the 27 to come out on top, the S&W 27 is easier and cheaper to work on than the Colt Python. I had a chance to handle a current production Python and it is a nice revolver but I really wasn't impressed. Hopefully Colt has all the problems taken care of with the new Pythons, they are supposed to be stronger than the older ones. I have a 1973 mod 27 in 8 /38" that is smooth as butter and very accurate so I really doubt I will buy a new Python unless I pick up a used one that the owner had no problems with.
I love my 6" 27-2 with the patridge front sight, it's easily my favorite gun I own. I just wish it had a smooth trigger instead of the serrations. I have heard that it can develop wear problems on the cylinder if you fire it in double action a lot. Something to do with how heavy the mass on the cylinder is and the momentum it has while revolving. I've heard that larger caliber N frames don't have that issue because the chamber holes are larger and therefore the cylinder has less mass. I have yet to notice something like that on my gun, but it's definitely a concern.
The 27 triggers and hammer could be tuned to a very nice feel with out compromised reliability. The 27 stands over the pythons to anybody who really has to depend on a pistol for their safety if they really know handguns. New pythons are now cnc machined, much better consistancy of part match but from some shooters out there, there is still a possibility of internal parts breaking if an inexperienced shooter is handeling it. I personally have not had the opertunity to shoot the new pythons yet. And at their price im not for sure I will or want to.
I love the python but I'd take the Smith. More durable, reliable. Plus, it's a sin to have a boomstick and make it go pop. I'm other words, if you have a 357, shoot 357 not 38's.
I have owned both for years and neither one has ever gave me a problem but there is a difference in the durability that has been a proven issue. The S&W is a superior work/service revolver. The Colt is over the top in style and the action is a tad better right out of the box but not enough to justify the price difference. So it's this simple the S&W is the best in a complete package and the Colt for show and match shooting unless the S&W has been polished in the action. I luv both but if I had to pick one it would be the Python because I shoot more of both 357 and 38 than the average man ever will and I have never had an issue with the Colt so I don't see the problem others have had. I just like the feel and sights on the Colt Python better. But with this said I firmly believe the S&W is a better built and serviceable revolver and much more of a value to the average or working man/woman.
By the way I carried and still prefer the S&W 66 that I polished inside and out myself and have used both for work and everyday carry for years Almost 45 years and is still with me to this day and never missed a lick short of a bad cartridge.
I have both. The model 27 is an 8inch and the Python is a 6inch. Both guns are blued and I can say that the the bluing on the python is to a much higher polish. It can be noticed that there was a lot of time spent on that. The model 27 is from the 50s and has the hammer I prefer, firing pin mounted on hammer. It has no problems at all with any kind of factory brass case ammo where as the python tends to light strike in double action unless I use federal or fiocchi ammo. I have not ever had timing issues with either gun. I am able to shoot the smith faster because the trigger resets faster, but because the trigger is just so fantastically smooth on the python, shooting it at closer distances like 30 and 40 feet just feels like cheating. Its rare that I don’t one hole group at that distance. With the smith i have to focus a bit more to do those sorts of things. At 50 yards slow fire single action, the guns perform almost identically in my hands at least. I tend to shoot a little better with the colt but that might just be from having shot it more. The smith is certainly easier to get work done on it. The custom shop charges a few hundred while with the colt, a rebluing could cost a thousand or two and colt wont do it on the vintage guns. Both guns are fantastic to have in the collection and I couldn’t recommend them enough as collectible range toys.
I have a 4-inch nickel Python made in 1974, and a 5-inch Model 27-2 made in 1975. Both are so prestine that I never shoot them. I do have a Model 28-2 Highway Patrolman I shoot on a regular basis. It's hard to pick one over the other, but since these large N-frame Smith's will handle a constant diet of .357 Magnum rounds without knocking them out of time, I'll give my nod to the Smith.
I own a Colt 3-5-7 Magnum revolver manufactured in 1955. Mechanically the same as the Python only without the vented rib and the barrel length underlug. Regardless it is a beautiful shooting revolver. I also own a S&W Model 28 which lacks the beautiful finish of the Model 27, but internally is the same revolver. They're both great revolvers, but when it comes to hard shooting with hot magnum laods I favor...…...…………..the Ruger GP100!
I've always wondered why if you want a very clean, very good finished, hand fit pistol/revolver It's hard to find anything outside of a 1911 or a older S&W (mostly there are exceptions) I carry a Glock but I just don't see people wanting these types of firearms as much anymore.
Keith I’ll Have To Choose The Smith & Wesson Model 27 The 1st Shot I Took With My Friends Was a Bullseye and The Subsequent Shots Were All In The 10 Spot Full Power .357 Mag Loads I Cant Offer an Opinion on The Colt as I’ve Never Shot 1 Yet 😀😊
I don't have an original S&W Model 27, but I do have a Performance Center 627-5, which is the 8 shot. I'm lucky enough to have a Colt Python 6 inch Blue in mint shape, but no box or papers. It's hard to compare the two. The S&W is more rugged overall and the Colt is better looking. I'm just happy to have both. I would like to get a Manurhin MR73. Someday.
S&W came out with the workingman's M-27 the Highway Patrolman (M-28) in 1954 and ended production of it 1986. Might not be as the Registered it is still as functional. Colt never made a less expensive counterpart to the Python. Never could justify it. Close cousins to that gun were the Colt .357 (1953-1961) and the Trooper (1953-1969) on the Colt designated I frame. Plain barrel guns that could have the action slicked to the same extent of the Python by a well practiced gunsmith.
Smith and Wesson 27 is like your grandpas or dads old work truck. Steady reliable and ready for anything you can throw at it. The Colt is like a Ferrari, it looks super pretty costs a fortune and you cant work on the dang thing if it goes down. If you want to shoot your guns get a smith, if you want to show them off buy the colt.
Let's try this automotive metaphor: The Python is a Ferrari, the Model 27 is a Jaguar. Works? OK, this comes from a guy whose only Colt is Police Positive Special. (Not a matter of bias: Smiths were just more readily available and affordable where I live!)
I own both. My Python was made the same year I was born (1960). I've fired it a lot, mostly with .38s in bullseye competition. I wanted a Python longer than any other gun I wanted, before I actually bought it. My 5in 27-2 is nice too. But it will go before the Python. I don't shoot as much as I used to. But I really don't care if I never fire my Python again. I could just stare into that bottomless Colt Royal blue for hours.
For actual carry Smith hands down. The Colt Cylinder release is slow and counterintuitive for speed reloading. For beauty the Colt. Own both. But would never carry the Colt on duty for its cylinder release.
Had a Nickel 8 3/8" 27 that was nice BUT I also have a Colt Three Five Seven with a 6" barrel.😁. I shot both and the Colt was BETTER.😀. I sold my 27 and KEEPING FOREVER MY COLT, it was made in 1955 (THE GOOD OLD DAYS FOR COLT)🤗. I also have a 6" 28 that I can shoot a bunch of loads if I want.😀 I shot a one hole 5 shots at 25" rested with CCI 125 FMJ Brass 38 special with my Colt, it's DEFINITELY A KEEPER 😁😀😎
586/686 is a much newer revolver the the revolvers from the 1970s compared in the video. 586/686 are very fine indeed and would be a good comparison with a 1990s Colt Python.
for what it's worth, I own both 2020 pythons of I also own all models of S&W mdl 19 and all models of 686 all with TT and TH, all of these guns beat the python's single action and double action....
I’m 74 years old I’ve owned both and I’ll put it this way I still have the S&W and sold the python.
Same here! The Python was pretty but the S&W 27 is a tank. Tuned the action on it and it's buttery smooth.
Wise Man S&W is the best revolver ever sold in my book.
Bought a Python and a nickel 27-2, cashed out on the python, still have the 27-2.
My s&w 27 best handgun I ever had ….. I can’t lie though I have a 1858 Remington 44 black powder remake by peita and that thing is fun too but if my life depended on it on it I would have the 27 in my hand without question ok a shotgun but u get what I am sayin
Hands down the Smith and Wesson model 27 every day
EVERY day!
@@tripacer8259 lucky enough to own both
@@paulettari976 Awesome, which one do you like best and what are the barrel lengths?
I agree. I have one nib Model27-2 and would never sell it. It is one beautiful revolver.
@@ronaldbruni1731 They are mechanical works of art.
My first 357 magnum revolver was a Colt.
My last 357 magnum revolver was a S&W model 27-2.
The S&W model 27-2 is now my personal favorite revolver and my personal favorite handgun.
I'm 73 and have owned multiples of both since the 1980's and still do. I like shooting the S&Ws, but like looking at/admiring the Colts. They both are fine shooting revolvers, but the S&Ws just fit my hand better.
Beyond my dad's 1917 vintage 1911, his 4-inch S&W .357 Mag was his favorite. I now have both. I've never handled a Python on the range, only in his collection. That he sold the Python and kept the S&W tells me a lot. He was an Army sniper in Korea, a member of the President's Hundred, a firearms instructor and gunsmith. I love the Model 27-2. It shoots like a Cadillac and runs .38 special for fun and .357 mag on payday! George Patton called his model 27 his "killing gun." Now the old 1911? Crude but fun. It's more agricultural but a literal blast to shoot.
I have owned a model 27 for 50+ years (8 3/8"), It is still a beautiful and good shooting revolver. Never owned a Python, but I do own a Diamondback, sort of a 'baby' Python. I like them both but in a pinch, I'd dump the Colt first.
Going to pick up the 357 python magnum that my dad bought in 1955 from the guy he sold it to Saturday. Can't wait to get that one back in the family and back to the range.
Their was a time in America when two gun company’s made two wonderful guns😊 and it is nice to read about the men who grew up them and the younger men have come to love them too😊 I am one of those older men! You have to love them both like children & enjoy them both!
Just have to mention the python was legendary loooong before the walking dead.
No kidding right?
it was a pile of junk loooong before the walking dead.
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Always loved the look of the Colt snake guns, but Smith had Colt on revolvers since the model 3 Smith/Schofield.
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@@cchcch-jw9dw if you like weaker cartridges in revolvers that frame stretch I guess
I have a model 27 6 1/2 barrel and I haven't shot a finer gun. I put all my AR's and semi auto handguns in the closet and haven't looked back. It's gorgeous to look at, .38 special is so nice to shoot, and . 357 is not bad either with the long barrel. If you find one pick it up. I really don't think anyone who enjoys shooting would regret it.
Double down on that. I have model 28 with a 6 inch barrel which is the budget version - bluing not as nice but the trigger is pure glass. I will never sell that pistol as long as I live.
The pre 27 smith was assembled by one person after it became the 27 they changed it,if anyone has both they can tell the difference,the pre 27 is super smooth just like the pyhtons,I got the pre 27 the python and a Smith and Wesson made in 1980 the newer one is much heavier trigger pull ,the pre 27 also has a deeper brighter blueing.
I’ve had both still have my blued 70s 6” Python. My first handgun was a M-27 8” blued. The S&W is on the N Frame which has extra steel on the frame & cylinder. What he says is true the 27 will handle heavy loads longer. But who goes to the range and only shoots .357 all day long. Both Excellent Revolvers🇺🇸
Why own a .357 if you aren't going to shoot .357? Might as well have bought a colt diamondback .38. .357 isn't even bad to shoot, but I guess some people can't handle it.
If the 27 is too large and you want a smaller easier to handle and carry worthy 357, get a model 19 or 66. The POA and ergo are perfect. If you want a safe queen, buy the Colt.
I gotta go with the S&W Model 27 due to the fact that it handles the magnums so well; that N frame is a beast. The Colt is beautiful, however, and I'd love to own one but def not for the $2-3k they are going for right now. My decision has nothing to do with the fact that I carry my S&W Model 27-2 six inch when out on the trail at all! Nope it doesn't. ;)
I understand you completely 😀the S&W model 27-2 six or 8 3/8is a wonderful gun😍to carry on the trail 😁
Smith was actually more reliable and durable.
I own different barrel lengths of each and they are both very good revolvers. I favor the Model 27-2's over the Python because the Python is so fragile. Now I'm talking about the original Colt Pythons not the ones that they came out with recently. If an internal part breaks, and they will, you can't fix it. My buddy's 4" Python fell out of the zipper bag and onto the concrete shooting table, a fall of about a foot and the revolver wouldn't function. He took it to his gunsmith who said no way, send it back to Colt.
While the Python is as smooth as glass it's also just as fragile and that is my only complaint about the revolver.
I trust model 27 with my life.
Enough said
Agreed!
I have a model 27-4, 6” bbl that I bought new in ‘88 or ‘89. I used it a little until about 1992. I haven’t shot it since. Such a beautiful gun!
I have a model 28 that I would give up for love, but never for money. I bought it in about 1981 and the model 27 was a bit more pricey for a 21 year-old.. They don't make them like they used to. That pistol has a crisper trigger in single-action that any rifle I have ever fired.
I carried a colt python in the early 70’s as a deputy sheriff no autos allowed great weapon I think I paid around $125 used but like new no mark on the cylinder I just loved it .
What a poor job place! To give you a Colt Python but no car... Walking police?
May i borrow a time machine to go back to when pythons only costed $125?
@@scout7876 Yeah, like Makarovs. Now the Soviet ones cost like Pythons.
@@morriszachrisson8359 😂
$125. Wow. I'll take ten.
The model 27 is a tank of a handgun. A .357 magnum built on a .44 magnum sized frame. Its beef, its reliable, parts are available and easy to fit, and comes is a wide varietie of barrel lengths from 2½" to 8⅜". Its honestly one of my all time favorite handguns. I want an 8⅜ model personally
I have owned a Smith 27-2 (target hammer, target trigger, P&R’ed, chamfered, five-inch barrel, square butt, red ramp front sight and fully adjustable rear sight) for many years. It’s EXTREMELY accurate, reliable and durable. It shoots everything very well. It’s an N Frame (large and heavy), but it soaks up recoil marvelously. I cannot think of a single thing I’d change on it . . . and I would never sell or trade it. It can be used for just about everything I’d practically want: defense, hunting, target shooting, and plinking . . . and with every conceivable .38 Special or .357 magnum round.
Excellent breakdown!
It's an age-old argument as to which is better and the myths about them never seem to die. I've owned and sold them both in the past but now I keep a nickeled M-27-2 and two "Ultimates" in my safe.
They are both Gorgeous revolvers. But for Me. I like The Smith & Wesson model 27. I'm a Smith & Wesson collector. An That 5 inch model 27 just gets my goat. I have a thing for pre lock Smith's. Especially the blued ones...
Me to I'm 60 and owned about ever pistol built, the 27 is the beast
Hot loads could be used all day long in the Smith & Wesson due to its beefy build. The model 27 N frame is a great revolver.
I've never shot a Python, but I love my 1973 Smith and Wesson 27-2. I use it for both .357 and .38sp+p
My favorite revolver caliber. I have a recent 686, but my 28-2 Highway Patrol is my favorite go to for hot loads. In a defensive firearm, I'll go for durability and reliability over looks any day.
I'd have to give my vote to the smith model 27 a true workhorse feels like an understatement. From 1935 until somewhere in the late 80s early 90s when Glock was giving there guns away to law enforcement to be the new sidearm. That's a long time for the model 27 and considered to be the most powerful handgun available until the 44 came along. I definitely want to own one
I like these daily videos and neat tips and tricks you've been putting out lately, keep up the good work!
My Very First Handgun was a Colt Python 6" barrel I Purchased in 1980 "Lightly Used" Excellent Condition, I Now have Finally Gotten A Smith &Wesson 27-2 ,6" Barrel to Go with it. That Full checkered top rib is Really Something Special. Don't have a Favorite, Don't Have to Now !!
Owned both. Model 27 is my favorite.
I used to read my grandad's old guns & ammo magazines when I was younger and I fell in love with the python because of the article saying it was the most accurate revolver on the market (allegedly) kinda bummed it couldn't handle hotloads.
I love the fit, finish, beauty of the Python. However, in law enforcement academy shooting class, I and other students had Smith and Wessons, and had no problems. Two students had Pythons, and both broke springs and were out of action the first morning of shooting. What a disappointment.
Had the same thing happen in the first year of owning my previous shelf queen python. This was when Colt was in one of their many bankruptcy’s and they were not producing revolvers or making spare parts or for that matter working on guns for service. It was very difficult finding parts and almost impossible finding a gunsmith willing to work on one.
The model S&W Model 27 was the first modern revolver specifically designed for .357 and .38 and was a huge success.
My only change to the S&W would shorten the rear sight plate so the front screw that holds the plate down ends up closer to the middle of the cylinder.
😎🇦🇺👍
I own both and the Python is a little better in nearly every regard. It's true that if you run a lot of heavy .357 through one you'll have to replace a timing hand after awhile but that's not that difficult and was something Colt knew about and planned for. The trade off is that the Colt locks up much tighter than the Smith and at distances of 50 yards or more it starts showing that it is more accurate.
Excellent! Finally a good explanation on the philosophy of design/use of the Colt Pythons
The S&W Three Five Seven (model 27) was released in 1935. It was built to handle continuous use of very hot. 357 magnum loads and it does.
I love my model 27 and had add a 5" because of Skeeter Skelton. The 4" also works fine. But the 'FBI' 3 1/2" just looks 'Bad' IMHO
Finally a good explanation of what the Pythons were designed to do.
They were ment to be target guns fired single action.
Those that complain about its double action don't understand What they were designed for.
Also when the Colt Python and S&W Combat Magnum were designed, most police officers trained with 38 special and those that could carried. 357 magnum
but didn't train with magnum loads.
When police departments started to train with .357 magnum rounds the guns started to fall apart except for the model 27 and its plain Jane counterpart the model 28 Highway patrol.
This is why S&W brought out the 586 & 686 slightly larger stronger .357 magnums made to handle continuous use of .357 loads.
Ruger's answer was the excellent GP100.
Pythons will shoot a long time without problems if you shoot 38 Specials and use them in single action.
Hopefully the New 2020 Pythons will have good single and double actions and be able to handle using a steady diet of 357 magnums.
Also hopefully Colt will solve the teething problems they've had with early production 2020 Pythons.
If you don't have a S&W model 27 or 28 get one!!
Cheers
I don’t have a Model 27. I have a Model 19 and I love it! I’d love to have a Python but it’s too rich for my blood.
Own them both ! Problem solved 👍🏻
😂😂😂 You lucky bastard. I need them both. The Colt Python (the old school of course) is pretty hard to find. But gun shows can do the trick.
Model 27 is the second revolver I ever owned. Got the pythons several years later. The Smith and Wesson model 28 is pretty much a model 27 just not as finally finished. You can get one of those for under a grand. Look on GunBroker at pythons some guys will work with you and do a layaway and you can pay it off over time unless you’re willing to give up your firstborn. Lol 😂
27 all day long, big Smith & Wesson owner and fan
I have a Model 27 with 8 3/8 pinned barrel 80s vintage with recessed cylinder. The high luster blue finish is awesome. Fit and finish is amazing. On to of all that it is extremely accurate. I wish I had a Python also however price has exceeded value for me. So if choosing either today, I would choose the vintage 27 as would likely have a much better priice.
Model 27s are very reasonably priced for what they are.
Looks and resale value: Colt
Actual use: S&W without a doubt
The .357/27 has always and will forever be the king of all .357 magnum revolvers.
I carried a model 27 on duty. It was a great gun! But I still remember how heavy it was. This was back in early 70s. It was a police gun I had to turn in but I sure wish I still had it today. Thank you Brownels! As fine as the Python is I'd love to have the 27 S. & W.
0:45 These guns were hand polished, hand fitted, hand tuned, hand shot, hand gunned.
I've owned a high quality Colt Python which was exquisite allright, in fact, it was fit so tight that it did not make a good shooter for me, so I traded it off for a nice Silverado pickup truck.
My grandfather had a Colt Python .38 Target special that was just cool as can be, but it didn't shoot anywhere near as good as his S&W Model 1955 (25-2) .45 ACP N-Frame. I love N-Frames and the Model 27 just oozes "beef".
Smith and Wesson Model 27 👍 or any other N Frame for that matter 👍
Amen to that.
I have had a few different Pythons mainly because of the looks of the vent rib but I sold them because I have always preferred the Model 27 because it just felt better in my hand. As far as accuracy goes I have always found the 27 to come out on top, the S&W 27 is easier and cheaper to work on than the Colt Python. I had a chance to handle a current production Python and it is a nice revolver but I really wasn't impressed. Hopefully Colt has all the problems taken care of with the new Pythons, they are supposed to be stronger than the older ones. I have a 1973 mod 27 in 8 /38" that is smooth as butter and very accurate so I really doubt I will buy a new Python unless I pick up a used one that the owner had no problems with.
I mainly shoot .357, and once in a while .38s
My choise was the 27, but I think the Python is a sexy gun.
I have one of each, the Python fits my hand better but Smiths are still my favorite!
I suppose I own the next best thing of this two, S&W model 28-2 and a Colt Trooper Miii like the both equally, the N frame on the S&W is just a beast.
The Mod 27 and 27-2 is by far the better gun..
But the Phyton is real nice to😉
S&W fan. Model 27 all the way.
I love my 6" 27-2 with the patridge front sight, it's easily my favorite gun I own. I just wish it had a smooth trigger instead of the serrations. I have heard that it can develop wear problems on the cylinder if you fire it in double action a lot. Something to do with how heavy the mass on the cylinder is and the momentum it has while revolving. I've heard that larger caliber N frames don't have that issue because the chamber holes are larger and therefore the cylinder has less mass. I have yet to notice something like that on my gun, but it's definitely a concern.
That's easy; S&W M27 is the better revolver. When it's a choice between flashy looks and functional soundness, I always choose functional soundness.
The 27 triggers and hammer could be tuned to a very nice feel with out compromised reliability. The 27 stands over the pythons to anybody who really has to depend on a pistol for their safety if they really know handguns. New pythons are now cnc machined, much better consistancy of part match but from some shooters out there, there is still a possibility of internal parts breaking if an inexperienced shooter is handeling it. I personally have not had the opertunity to shoot the new pythons yet. And at their price im not for sure I will or want to.
I love the python but I'd take the Smith. More durable, reliable.
Plus, it's a sin to have a boomstick and make it go pop.
I'm other words, if you have a 357, shoot 357 not 38's.
Great video. Both excellent revolvers in my book
Model 27 and 28 with some gunsmithing is a better then the Python. But the Python is sure pretty..
I have owned both for years and neither one has ever gave me a problem but there is a difference in the durability that has been a proven issue. The S&W is a superior work/service revolver. The Colt is over the top in style and the action is a tad better right out of the box but not enough to justify the price difference. So it's this simple the S&W is the best in a complete package and the Colt for show and match shooting unless the S&W has been polished in the action. I luv both but if I had to pick one it would be the Python because I shoot more of both 357 and 38 than the average man ever will and I have never had an issue with the Colt so I don't see the problem others have had. I just like the feel and sights on the Colt Python better. But with this said I firmly believe the S&W is a better built and serviceable revolver and much more of a value to the average or working man/woman.
By the way I carried and still prefer the S&W 66 that I polished inside and out myself and have used both for work and everyday carry for years Almost 45 years and is still with me to this day and never missed a lick short of a bad cartridge.
I've owned many types of both, the 27 is a tank, I would choose it over any wheel gun out there
I have both. The model 27 is an 8inch and the Python is a 6inch. Both guns are blued and I can say that the the bluing on the python is to a much higher polish. It can be noticed that there was a lot of time spent on that. The model 27 is from the 50s and has the hammer I prefer, firing pin mounted on hammer. It has no problems at all with any kind of factory brass case ammo where as the python tends to light strike in double action unless I use federal or fiocchi ammo. I have not ever had timing issues with either gun. I am able to shoot the smith faster because the trigger resets faster, but because the trigger is just so fantastically smooth on the python, shooting it at closer distances like 30 and 40 feet just feels like cheating. Its rare that I don’t one hole group at that distance. With the smith i have to focus a bit more to do those sorts of things. At 50 yards slow fire single action, the guns perform almost identically in my hands at least. I tend to shoot a little better with the colt but that might just be from having shot it more. The smith is certainly easier to get work done on it. The custom shop charges a few hundred while with the colt, a rebluing could cost a thousand or two and colt wont do it on the vintage guns. Both guns are fantastic to have in the collection and I couldn’t recommend them enough as collectible range toys.
I'll stick with my N Frames all day long!...
I have a 4-inch nickel Python made in 1974, and a 5-inch Model 27-2 made in 1975. Both are so prestine that I never shoot them. I do have a Model 28-2 Highway Patrolman I shoot on a regular basis. It's hard to pick one over the other, but since these large N-frame Smith's will handle a constant diet of .357 Magnum rounds without knocking them out of time, I'll give my nod to the Smith.
I own a Colt 3-5-7 Magnum revolver manufactured in 1955. Mechanically the same as the Python only without the vented rib and the barrel length underlug. Regardless it is a beautiful shooting revolver. I also own a S&W Model 28 which lacks the beautiful finish of the Model 27, but internally is the same revolver. They're both great revolvers, but when it comes to hard shooting with hot magnum laods I favor...…...…………..the Ruger GP100!
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I've always wondered why if you want a very clean, very good finished, hand fit pistol/revolver It's hard to find anything outside of a 1911 or a older S&W (mostly there are exceptions) I carry a Glock but I just don't see people wanting these types of firearms as much anymore.
polymer sucks
The model 27 anyday. I'd even take the model 19 over the python. They're all great handguns but the price on the colt doesn't make it worth it.
27 every time. Just as accurate, will eat full house .357 all day every day, and it doesn't cost a fortune.
Smith & Wesson, hands down.
Keith I’ll Have To Choose The Smith & Wesson Model 27 The 1st Shot I Took With My Friends Was a Bullseye and The Subsequent Shots Were All In The 10 Spot Full Power .357 Mag Loads I Cant Offer an Opinion on The Colt as I’ve Never Shot 1 Yet 😀😊
The Python is a pretty gun; but I think a vintage 27 is a better gun. ( My "go to" gun is the model 28 using .357 110 grain JHP rounds! )
Mod 27 hands down
COLLECT PYTHONS AND 27S. PREFER TO SHOOT REGULARLY MY 586 AND 27. GREAT VIDEO AND DISCUSSION MEN.
Model 27 is the better gun. I wonder if there is any difference in functionality of the Model 28 vs the 27.
I don't have an original S&W Model 27, but I do have a Performance Center 627-5, which is the 8 shot. I'm lucky enough to have a Colt Python 6 inch Blue in mint shape, but no box or papers.
It's hard to compare the two. The S&W is more rugged overall and the Colt is better looking. I'm just happy to have both.
I would like to get a Manurhin MR73. Someday.
what is a copy python
Hands down S&W model 27
The Smith 27.
S&W came out with the workingman's M-27 the Highway Patrolman (M-28) in 1954 and ended production of it 1986. Might not be as the Registered it is still as functional. Colt never made a less expensive counterpart to the Python. Never could justify it. Close cousins to that gun were the Colt .357 (1953-1961) and the Trooper (1953-1969) on the Colt designated I frame. Plain barrel guns that could have the action slicked to the same extent of the Python by a well practiced gunsmith.
I only have the Colt Python so I couldn’t tell you what I prefer.
They’re both beautiful that’s for sure.
Smith and Wesson 27 is like your grandpas or dads old work truck. Steady reliable and ready for anything you can throw at it. The Colt is like a Ferrari, it looks super pretty costs a fortune and you cant work on the dang thing if it goes down. If you want to shoot your guns get a smith, if you want to show them off buy the colt.
Well, looking at it now, the S&W XXVII looks nice, might add it to my list
Let's try this automotive metaphor: The Python is a Ferrari, the Model 27 is a Jaguar. Works? OK, this comes from a guy whose only Colt is Police Positive Special. (Not a matter of bias: Smiths were just more readily available and affordable where I live!)
For combat I'd take the S&W M27. For beauty, grace, value, action, I'll take the Python.
Think of a Python as a beautiful Women beautiful grace value action smooth as silk and deadly accurate
@@genelyda1102 HaHaHa Amen Gene!!
I own both. My Python was made the same year I was born (1960). I've fired it a lot, mostly with .38s in bullseye competition. I wanted a Python longer than any other gun I wanted, before I actually bought it. My 5in 27-2 is nice too. But it will go before the Python. I don't shoot as much as I used to. But I really don't care if I never fire my Python again. I could just stare into that bottomless Colt Royal blue for hours.
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Had both. Shot both. Still have the Python. Nuff Said !
There are beautiful
Smith&Wesson all the way.
For actual carry Smith hands down. The Colt Cylinder release is slow and counterintuitive for speed reloading. For beauty the Colt. Own both. But would never carry the Colt on duty for its cylinder release.
Both beauties. And so cool.
So not just a stacking trigger, but stacking tolerances
Had a Nickel 8 3/8" 27 that was nice BUT I also have a Colt Three Five Seven with a 6" barrel.😁. I shot both and the Colt was BETTER.😀. I sold my 27 and KEEPING FOREVER MY COLT, it was made in 1955 (THE GOOD OLD DAYS FOR COLT)🤗. I also have a 6" 28 that I can shoot a bunch of loads if I want.😀 I shot a one hole 5 shots at 25" rested with CCI 125 FMJ Brass 38 special with my Colt, it's DEFINITELY A KEEPER 😁😀😎
Wouldn't a better comparison be the 586/686? Because of the full underlug?
586/686 is a much newer revolver the the revolvers from the 1970s compared in the video. 586/686 are very fine indeed and would be a good comparison with a 1990s Colt Python.
I have a 5" Factory Nickel Model 27 and a 4" blue. Along with a 4" Model 28. The N Frame Smiths all the way!
Model 27 is for getting the job done,
Colt python is for showing off
and btw-
Rick couldn’t hit anything with his Python
My Dad shot three VC with his 27. A VERY sensitive issue, - have the wife start the car for a while.
I’d pick the model 27.
The 27 ALL DAY LONG! The Colt's are too far out of line on pricing.
I own a model 627 Pro Series, I ordered a new Colt Python January 4th, 2020. Hopefully I get it before 2021?
for what it's worth, I own both 2020 pythons of I also own all models of S&W mdl 19 and all models of 686 all with TT and TH, all of these guns beat the python's single action and double action....
Never seen a company self sabotage more than Colt. Smith because of its rugged, reliability. Just buy both.
Model 27 is the best!!!!