There is definitely a hint of Tolkiens Orcs in the design of these guys, they're more of Mordor than of Mork. Which is what I think separates them from the other orks, even the fairly newer ranges like Gloomspite Gitz and Orruk Warclans have carried on that innate "Orkiness" you spoke about. In regards to your point about skin tones, I think moving away from the typical green helps. I painted up a Kruleboy with a pale, almost white skin tone and it looked even less like an Ork. It kind of became it's own thing and I much preferred the effect it had on the miniature overall. Thanks for the detailed and concise breakdown on these. It is a much more useful rundown for people looking to get into this range.
Mordor was my immediate thought as well. I really like the look myself, but I am also brand new to Warhammer and don't have much previous biases. I will say that agree these guys feel like they belong in their own army seperate from other Ork Boyz.
It's funny, I think people like orks and orrucs for different reasons, I personally ALMOST loved the look of the other 40k and AoS orks, but to me they were a bit too goofy. One of my favourite things about collecting an army in this hobby is, collecting something badass, with just a hint of absurdity. For me, these new orruks actually got the sweet spot to a point where I am excited to start collecting them! I get where you're coming from though, it's a bit disappointing if something that was already hitting the sweet spot for you isn't any more. Thanks for making this video and sharing your thoughts! I love learning about the different reasons people love the hobby!
These guys are the perfect opposite of normal orks. These guys are Kunnin and Brutal instead of Brutal and Kunnin same with other aspects. They look mean, lean and ready to stab you in the back instead of goofy, buff and smiling while smashing you in the face. I would be afraid of these and take them serious in a fight while normal orks are fun and goofy. Both portray the opposites perfectly. But a bit more glee in their faces and a slight smirk would have been appreciated.
jea... just finished the Dominion Audiobook and i can tell you: NOTHING about those guys is goofy or funny in the slightest way. They are kind of the Nightlords of AOS
I specifically prefer the Kruleboyz over other Orks/Orruks because they are not silly. Goofiness in an army is a quick turn off to me. I'm glad that I finally like Orks and will collect them!!!
I love how divided the comments are. Some people want their orcs smiling, and others want their orcs serious and mean. And these are something for the later group
I think it gives a nice mix, will say I'd like less serious Hobgrots though. That's why i'm actually gonna do a little kitbashin for them, looking for some gobbo heads to fit, the other night gave the drummer a ram skull mask.
But that's the exact thing - Orks have a duality in them. They have Gork and Mork. They have brutality and kunnin'. They have beefcake doofuses and sneaky meanies. That's the way they should be! Stop worrying about them not fitting your preference, embrace that now there are new members to the WAAAAGH!
@@trzynasty909 Sure.. but the usual thing for Orks is that they enjoy the fight. Even if not happy/goofy, they at least enjoy getting stuck in. And y'know.. maybe people would be a bit more open to these orks being side by side with the ironjawz, if not for the fact that the Kruleboyz have more models in their line up at release than Ironjawz have in general.
With the shield designs all being analogous to the models' faces, I feel reasonably confident in thinking that Stab Grot has a leering grin under that helm.
I like these serious orks. The goofy orks put me off and im only interested now in starting a force with these kruleboyz models I like the lotr style orks. Tolkien inspired or Peter Jackson if you want to be technical.
Same, I'm glad somebody else said it. I never liked orcs being as goofy as they are, it always makes it feel a bit stupid when a supposed savage, brutal horde of destruction are all goofy and silly. It works better in Oldhammer, and in 40K since there is a significant degree of satire to the whole setting, but Age of Sigmar always felt like it's played pretty straight. There's still factions like the Gloomspite Gits if you want something more silly, but I think the more serious and, well, krule style fits orruks in AoS much better.
Was this reply really necessary? If the dude like these mini's thats totally fine, just like you dislike them is. No need to push people towards another game.
It's really frustrating how often GW makes pre-fab bases part of the feet these days. It really wouldn't be that much harder to include the "scenic" base bit, with a tab to slot the feet in. And it'd allow for a lot more creativity.
Agreed. The feet need to be attached to the legs, not to the base decorations. When I have more than one of a monopose figure, basing it differently is just about the only way to distinguish between them without using a hacksaw and greenstuff.
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I'm not super familiar with the setting but from what I've seen Age of Sigmar was an attempt to make fantasy more grimdark like the much more popular 40k series. The fact that none of the orks (sorry, orruksTM) are smiling could be a symptom of that
There is a distinct dissonance in tone for sure, and I say this as someone that bought this line (but then again, just for the fun of painting because I love ALL types of orc out there). As I wrote elsewhere, we kinda lost the "baseline orc" anyway. Ironjawz have all a Black Orc (WHFB) attitude, with no foil in the normal boy. Bonesplitterz are the savage version of...? Who? Do Ironjawz smile? They seem to enjoy it a bit more, admittedly.
I'm glad you take your time to review these in a very thorough and methodical way. Less click baity GW-bashing, more honest thoughts that are interesting to listen to.
Idk. I feel like the Ironjawz were more serious too. Maybe not as sinister as the Kruleboyz but they weren't comical like the Bonesplitterz or Gloomspite. I like the variety
“Like most modern warhammer kits they’re pieced together in mind bending ways” this is the most applicable point to me, someone who’s returning to the hobby after a decade and a half absence. I’m glad the kits are more expressive but holy shit I need to follow the instructions so much more!
Please do more reviews Absolutely flawless, I have been watching for a while and I'm having trouble putting into words how much I enjoyed this video.It's incredible how well you were able to completely digest the model at 10:33
@@EcopiuM fantasy Orks haven't always been goofy or absurd.. but they at least the fight. They enjoy getting stuck in and they enjoy winning. The Orks/Orruks were the one army that didn't have a grim determined look to them; and now they lost that.
It is not that they should be funny, but in the lore Orks love fighting and killing. It makes them happy and maniacal. If an Ork is smiling it is a terrible sight, because he is doing something murderous or daydreaming about the worst ways to maim and kill
I had a lot of fun painting these. Used a UV reactive paint on some details so that they look like normal till you hit with a black light. The effect was awesome
I think if they manage to balance the sillyness and fun in the traditional orcs, and the cunning slyness in these guys, I can see that working. I quite like the idea of having orcs that are scary for being cruel and devious, but also like the idea of having a choice between the two vibes.
For smiling orcs go for Ironjawz. For crazy orcs go for Bonspilttaz. For cold, evil orcs go for Kruleboyz. Honestly speaking, from both a business GW perspective and army diversity perspective there is no need for another orc sub-faction that is similar to the current ones. As other people in the comments have said this sub-faction is heavily inspired by Lord of the Rings orcs and that's never a bad thing. The models looks awesome and the faction adds more diversity to the destruction grand alliance.
This is one of the best model line review videos I've seen! I especially love how you talked about how they were like building and coming up with a plan to build. A really important part of making a model that not enough people talk about!
I really like the look of these new Orcs, I like the tolkien-esque style "more evil" style! Feet being attached to bases/base textures have been a thorn in my side ever since I picked up my first warband for Underworlds. Kind of felt an itch to get these at some point, but knowing this I might just pass and grab something else instead 😂
Love the commentary and your personal opinions about the feel of the Orks. Thank you for being candid and creating a unique review video! Please continue this kind of content!
A little bit of a green stuff and some peg legs and you could make a full extra 10 Hobgrots with boss, banner and musician. It's a surprisingly generous kit compared to recent other GW offerings.
@@JRobb84 i'm making some with sprue bits for legs and clothes of greenstuff, they'll be pirates. need a name for the hobgrot pirates though, do you know one
Its really inspiring to watch your reviews. I appreciate other youtubers that do unboxings but the fact that you also paint them too is very helpful. Good job.
"These orks aren't funny because they're not smiling" The faction has a bunch of grots that ride a big Gollum looking thing that picks up and squishes enemies and they cheer and applaud it. Their main boss is riding a giant vulture and stops enemy spells while screaming MORK SEZ NO!!!! There's plenty of joy in this army, you just only see the surface level. Plus, they're morky orks. They're sadistic, not berserk battle hungry barbarians. Your idea of orks has been colored by the fandoms love of the memes around them. Most orks in lore are much more serious and terrifying than the way the fandom portrays them.
The argument about the orcs not smiling is really silly, from mine own collection of old and new orcs and from what I've seen online, I have found 2 orcs smiling. The maniak weirdnob for bonesplitterz and an old fantasy orc shaman. Most orcs are scowling, growling and/or shouting much like these orcs. Obviously these orruks are different from the old orcs but their build honestly remind me a lot of the old artwork and models from the 80s. Back then they weren't just massive slabs of muscle but more lanky and vicious looking. I feel like they fit well in with the orruks, contrasting well against the other orruks while still having some familiar traits. A lot more interesting than just more of the same old same old. I love the hulking brutes from the late fantasy. But the grognards saying these aren't real orcs just sound like old men shouting at the sky.
Speaking as someone completely new to the hobby, who also by complete chance got a half-set of already assembled Hobgrots second-hand (partially because they came really cheap and I couldn't find any of the more classic bulkier ones that weren't already painted - and it was before I found out you can safely remove paint) - I really like them. They got this whole mean, ready-for-war "come at me bro" attitude to them, and all the faces reflect that, so I painted them all dirty and dark-green, instead of what the box-art shows you. Though they're really damn small and it was a pain in the ass to paint them as my first mini painting experience, I liked them so much that - because my half-set has a few duplicates - I got me another full set with all the parts to make my way and paint better now that I've had some practice.
I respect that your longevity in these games and what you have come to expect as a long time fan matters. I think I would feel the same way if I saw such a change. But as someone new to minis relatively, and completely a noob to Warhammer, these models feel so much more like orcs and hobgoblins that I have needed as D&D miniatures than the goofy silly "orukks" that Games Workshop have made their own. I just love these new Kruleboyz
Have to say the colours you picked would look great on the tabletop, I am looking forward to painting mine I was a little bit worried I would screw them up because they have such nice details. Great Video Brent and the postman Pat legs at the start lets me know you mean business.
The exact thing you are complaining about is the thing i REALY like about the new Krewl Boyz. Mencaing, evil Orcs, instead of stupid, incompetend and funny.
Yeah, honestly they give me something that Orruks just dont...guess it helps to paint them up as LOTR orcs & goblins....However to me they can't compete with my Orks...nothing wrong with having both though
I like the Kruleboyz for all the reasons that you hate them, which is probably also why I have never liked any of the other greenskins. I will likely only be collecting Kruleboyz as my only greenskins. I really like the new big monsters that are coming soon for the Kruleboyz.
You're more into the Beast Snagga's sounds like. With the grot wielding a big nail, riding in on a squig that has one wheel bolted on to it. Bombs strapped everywhere. These are more serious and savage like the Orruk Warclans.
Thanks for the warning on the alt hobgrots! I am building the storm cast first so I can save what I really wanted the box for as an encouragement to finish ( probably do the same painting).
Good old Morglum Neckstabber. I never could quite work out how controlled his boar whilst waving around two axes, and his boars mutant forward facing teeth meant it was impossible to get him into base-to-base contact with anything. He was the pride and joy of my old greenskin army.
@@sweetryte2027 Yeah, but orcs in Tolkien were, generally, still pretty miserable. Living under the thumb of Sauron didn't leave much room for enjoyment. If LotR orcs laughed or sang, it was _in spite_ of Sauron. As the song from the Return of the King animated movie attests, they are slaves to the Dark Lord's war.
I actually kind of prefer these orcs, I like there malicious way of fighting and that they are smart, it’s almost like the idea of the black orcs but instead of being bigga an arda they’re for agile and smarter making them almost more dangerous then the brute like breed of orcs
I generally agree with you, however I think the best solution would have been to at least make the goblins more silly or maybe the banner or witchdoctor ones. Mix them up. I do think of AOS being a bit more dark and serious so I don't really mind them. But for 40k, keep them as they are. Silliest but best army of the xeno choices by far. Love my silly space orks.
Thx much appreciated for the review... A couple of weeks ago I bought the new edition of the " how to paint WH AoS edition" and now they included a fresh gutrripaz! On exchange for an nightwrath I think. A very well detailed mini with details not to difficult to paint.... Also the shield kick ass!
As Leonard Wisniewski said below, the Orks have a LOTR feel. In fact look at the Urak Hai that assault Helms Deep and you have it. Their backs are broad and their armour thick. We should be seeing that white wizard any time now. Night give you a feel for that skin tone you are looking for.
A great review. Thanks for taking the time to thoughtfully share as always. As a longtime LOTR fan, these figures strike me very much as Peter Jackson orcs and less so Warhammer orcs. It's akin to the tonal shift between The Hobbit goblins and orcs and then the Moria goblins and Isengard orcs. Where are the songs??? Where's the silly king?! This will be the first army I paint after I half-assembled a Skaven Start Collecting box but then lost it, so I'm eagerly soaking up any inspiration and help I can. I really love the vibrant skin tones and different colors of armor.
Glad to see you give them a fair shake to see how they struck you. As someone who is still very new to GW games, I guess my head canon for them is they have simply evolved differently from the main ork/orruk line (to put it in MtG terms maybe these guys are GB mindset vs mono red) and that is why they are far more serious. I am doing a test paint with some dark tan with hits of green for the skin and like it so far. Great job as always sir!
9:12 Oh, that's a grenade pin in the Hobgrotz mouth? I thought it was a ceee-gar; and that he was the tough, no nonsense sergeant of the outfit; Sgt Apooon, "Look in to my eye!" That is an eye-meltingly bright line up of gritz and boyz. For these minis, maybe a maggot-white skin would be the way to go; really leaning in to the grim-dark aesthetic.
In one of my DnD worlds I made the goblins come from the Faewild and in addition to neon green, their skin tones range from electric blue to neon pink to highlighter yellow. Would love to see a video going over those bright skin tones like you did for the pink and blue ones here. Great video Brent!
I had the exact same broken pieces in my box, but they were super easy fixes. Maybe they were never even attached to the part on the sprue to begin with, haha.
I don't get the thing about the bits at 2:40. Surely you decide what models you want to build, and then look which bits you need? With the old multi-pose kits, you wouldn't say "Be careful, you can use the legs/torso to make a regular soldier. Don't get tricked into making a standard bearer!"
I am also a big Ork fan. They were amongst the first minis that I ever painted and I have maintained an Ork unit in all my games. I have a collection of Kruleboyz to use in Warcry and probably some of my other skirmish games. I enjoyed painting them but they definitely do not have the charm of the previous models.
Honestly since it’s hard to find other orcs right now it’s a total bummer. I couldn’t put my finger on why I didn’t like them other than they were super Lotr but it’s the silly stupidness the smiles that I’m totally missing. Orcs are supposed to be the only ones having fun.
Looking forward to more of these actual mini reviews - especially appreciated the build option tip about model instructions spilling over to the next page.
Btw Brent, the instructions for the hobgrots seemed clear to me, but I can see how you might have misunderstood them... In any case I managed to bash together 1 extra hobgrot leader and 1 extra hornblower
I've not been interpreting them as classic hammer orcs, or Orruks for that matter, I saw somewhere referring to the AOS version of hobgoblins and that was what made them click for me, instead of them being the loveable gorilla orcs or wacky goblins plus my love for the chaos dorfs. Color scheme wise, I'm taking inspiration from the pale orc in the hobbit, some Celt blue woad, and probably yellow armor. I also wish i could have a whole army of warg riders, I mean gnashtoofs
In the 90s I played 40k exclusively, but a friend finally goaded me into playing Warhammer Fantasy. I told him I'd only play if the army I had was "simply fun". I read over some of the lists, and landed on orcs & goblins. Between semi-cowardly madcap gobbos, snarling greenskin animosity, ludicrously unreliable war engines, tiny-yet-unbreakable snotlings, stupid yet dangerous trolls and lumbering giants, they were a non-stop kneeslapper of an army list to bring to the table. These Kruleboyz are nice models, but I agree that they ain't the fun greenskins of old.
I mean they're monopose because it's the starter set. Buying the units individually gets you a different sprue with more freedom. Also all the shields are representative of how the orruks see themselves, you ask to see more but it's already there.
i personally really like these, and I like that they are quite serious - that being said, the silliness of the orkz is one of the best things about them imo, so i do hope that this is an exception and not the new rule. i think a good mix of both would be perfect! it makes the serious orkz look more serious and the silly orkz look more silly in comparison. of course, the ideal scenario is that GW gives every ork player the necessary bits and therefore the choice of whether they want to play serious orkz or silly orkz, but that's probably not gonna happen.
Love the video Brent! How did you find building the shaman?! When I followed the instructions I attached the first part of the front of its body into the wrong slot and then near the end realised it was wrong! The instructions were trash
I mean, the silliness gripe is a bit... silly?? Given the theme of this Ork schism I like the more serious look, that’s what make these KRUEL BOYZ. Theyre a small but distinct type of Ork in the mortal realms. These lads dont have much to smile about - they’re skinny, have to rely on sneaky tactics and live in swamps. What would be funny is seeing them paired with the classic goofy fun Orks. The contrast could provide an extra layer of comedy.
I love the silliness of classic orcs. I didn't feel like Ironjawz had it. Gloomspite Gitz do, but I was busy with my skaven when they came out. The Kruleboyz are definitely not Boyz. But I really do like their aesthetic. I'm planning to paint mine terracotta. I want them to look like they are risen out of clay. I think that will set them apart and also offset them from the swampy green bases.
Personally, I kind of like the direction that GW have taken with the Greenskins in AoS. If you want a more grounded and Tolkeinesque Orky look, you have Kruleboyz. If you want classic Warhammer Fantasy Orks, you have Ironjawz or Bonesplitterz. And if you want whimsical fantasy, you have Gloomspite Gitz
These Orcs really have a LOTR feeling to me.
Ya, really spindly and gross. Good models.
Definitely. Same here.
Agreed. Don't mind it though.
Right? Such evil, nasty looking, Mordor vibes. From the movies at least
Same and I don't know how I feel about it lol. They look sick just not Warhammer to me
There is definitely a hint of Tolkiens Orcs in the design of these guys, they're more of Mordor than of Mork. Which is what I think separates them from the other orks, even the fairly newer ranges like Gloomspite Gitz and Orruk Warclans have carried on that innate "Orkiness" you spoke about. In regards to your point about skin tones, I think moving away from the typical green helps. I painted up a Kruleboy with a pale, almost white skin tone and it looked even less like an Ork. It kind of became it's own thing and I much preferred the effect it had on the miniature overall.
Thanks for the detailed and concise breakdown on these. It is a much more useful rundown for people looking to get into this range.
To much Mordor..I don't like em.
Mordor was my immediate thought as well. I really like the look myself, but I am also brand new to Warhammer and don't have much previous biases. I will say that agree these guys feel like they belong in their own army seperate from other Ork Boyz.
Even mordor orcs smiled and laughed while fighting and even sang songs in the books. Kruleboyz are too serious.
I think it's because they're based on the hobgoblins rather than the normal greenskins. Both groups of them tended to be less silly and more nasty...
Could you post a picture of the pale Kruleboy? Im kinda interested now
It's funny, I think people like orks and orrucs for different reasons, I personally ALMOST loved the look of the other 40k and AoS orks, but to me they were a bit too goofy. One of my favourite things about collecting an army in this hobby is, collecting something badass, with just a hint of absurdity. For me, these new orruks actually got the sweet spot to a point where I am excited to start collecting them! I get where you're coming from though, it's a bit disappointing if something that was already hitting the sweet spot for you isn't any more. Thanks for making this video and sharing your thoughts! I love learning about the different reasons people love the hobby!
These guys are the perfect opposite of normal orks. These guys are Kunnin and Brutal instead of Brutal and Kunnin same with other aspects. They look mean, lean and ready to stab you in the back instead of goofy, buff and smiling while smashing you in the face. I would be afraid of these and take them serious in a fight while normal orks are fun and goofy. Both portray the opposites perfectly. But a bit more glee in their faces and a slight smirk would have been appreciated.
Honestly to me they look to messy but I do love the seriousness of them the only problem is trying to make them fit into an orruk army
jea... just finished the Dominion Audiobook and i can tell you: NOTHING about those guys is goofy or funny in the slightest way. They are kind of the Nightlords of AOS
I specifically prefer the Kruleboyz over other Orks/Orruks because they are not silly. Goofiness in an army is a quick turn off to me. I'm glad that I finally like Orks and will collect them!!!
Nice to see you here jazza!
I love how divided the comments are. Some people want their orcs smiling, and others want their orcs serious and mean. And these are something for the later group
I think it gives a nice mix, will say I'd like less serious Hobgrots though. That's why i'm actually gonna do a little kitbashin for them, looking for some gobbo heads to fit, the other night gave the drummer a ram skull mask.
But that's the exact thing - Orks have a duality in them. They have Gork and Mork. They have brutality and kunnin'. They have beefcake doofuses and sneaky meanies. That's the way they should be!
Stop worrying about them not fitting your preference, embrace that now there are new members to the WAAAAGH!
@@trzynasty909 Sure.. but the usual thing for Orks is that they enjoy the fight. Even if not happy/goofy, they at least enjoy getting stuck in. And y'know.. maybe people would be a bit more open to these orks being side by side with the ironjawz, if not for the fact that the Kruleboyz have more models in their line up at release than Ironjawz have in general.
@@trzynasty909 You said it perfectly!
With the shield designs all being analogous to the models' faces, I feel reasonably confident in thinking that Stab Grot has a leering grin under that helm.
But it's a kruel grin, not a joyous one.
Killaboss on gnashtooth has ahegayo face, thats anough fun for me.
Personal take here. Gloomspite gitz are the best greenskin faction GW have ever made. Perfect blend of horrifying lunacy mixed with humor
this is correct! :-)
I like these serious orks. The goofy orks put me off and im only interested now in starting a force with these kruleboyz models
I like the lotr style orks. Tolkien inspired or Peter Jackson if you want to be technical.
I mean, GW sells Lord of the Rings orcs if you want that. Let warhammer orks be their own thing.
Same, I'm glad somebody else said it. I never liked orcs being as goofy as they are, it always makes it feel a bit stupid when a supposed savage, brutal horde of destruction are all goofy and silly. It works better in Oldhammer, and in 40K since there is a significant degree of satire to the whole setting, but Age of Sigmar always felt like it's played pretty straight. There's still factions like the Gloomspite Gits if you want something more silly, but I think the more serious and, well, krule style fits orruks in AoS much better.
Was this reply really necessary? If the dude like these mini's thats totally fine, just like you dislike them is. No need to push people towards another game.
@@hellayeproductions6739 Why not both? They both still exist right? :)
Same here
It's really frustrating how often GW makes pre-fab bases part of the feet these days. It really wouldn't be that much harder to include the "scenic" base bit, with a tab to slot the feet in. And it'd allow for a lot more creativity.
Agreed. The feet need to be attached to the legs, not to the base decorations. When I have more than one of a monopose figure, basing it differently is just about the only way to distinguish between them without using a hacksaw and greenstuff.
I found this channel last week by accident. Did not really know much about Warhammer; now I’m $350 poorer holding a Dominion box and a hug bag of paint. Thanks, I think. Much love.
Orcs not smiling is strangely an extremely valid criticism
I'm not super familiar with the setting but from what I've seen Age of Sigmar was an attempt to make fantasy more grimdark like the much more popular 40k series. The fact that none of the orks (sorry, orruksTM) are smiling could be a symptom of that
But they are orruks, not orks.
@@cristhianmlr orruks is a stupid name so I’m not gonna call them that though I will admit I spelled the wrong kind of Orc
@@chrissedgwick8854 honestly it's the other way around haha,
AOS is more cartoonish than fantasy, so it's weird they've changed up for new orcs
@@chrissedgwick8854 It isn't really more grimdark than fantasy. If anything it's been a lot more noble bright.
The Kruleboyz are a new serious line of orcs! That's cool and all, but how you gonna be serious and still spell your name with a "Z" ? :-)
There is a distinct dissonance in tone for sure, and I say this as someone that bought this line (but then again, just for the fun of painting because I love ALL types of orc out there).
As I wrote elsewhere, we kinda lost the "baseline orc" anyway. Ironjawz have all a Black Orc (WHFB) attitude, with no foil in the normal boy. Bonesplitterz are the savage version of...? Who?
Do Ironjawz smile? They seem to enjoy it a bit more, admittedly.
By bein' an ORK!
Alliteration
@@maxhammer7570 *orruk
@@cristhianmlr have you cracked it? Is this the secret? Does the name orruk make orks serious?
I'm an Orc fan and I actually love the look of these new Orcs but I also appreciate old school Orcs.
I hope they don’t get rid of the old look
I was impressed how good the mold lines in this box. They're getting better with running them down grooves and between armor plates for the most part
I'm here for the hot tips and tricks you can't get from an unboxing video
Kruleboyz are my favorite age of sigmar army. But I love this video regardless :)
fair enough! the models are great, I'm just grumpy that they're not the old silly orcs :-)
They’re supposed to be cruel, not funny. They are meant to kill, not throw a party on the battlefield.
They gotta be funnier if they're gonna spell Kruleboyz with a K and a Z... ;-)
Wow, a faction full of savage murderers in a game about war arent smiling, how dare they
@@sybutt7528 Exactly
I'm glad you take your time to review these in a very thorough and methodical way. Less click baity GW-bashing, more honest thoughts that are interesting to listen to.
Idk. I feel like the Ironjawz were more serious too. Maybe not as sinister as the Kruleboyz but they weren't comical like the Bonesplitterz or Gloomspite. I like the variety
"If you're willing to give your children murknobs and a hobby knife" lol!
“Like most modern warhammer kits they’re pieced together in mind bending ways” this is the most applicable point to me, someone who’s returning to the hobby after a decade and a half absence. I’m glad the kits are more expressive but holy shit I need to follow the instructions so much more!
Please do more reviews
Absolutely flawless, I have been watching for a while and I'm having trouble putting into words how much I enjoyed this video.It's incredible how well you were able to completely digest the model at 10:33
I feel the same way about them. I need my orks with a dash of goofy
I really like Paul Bonner's drawings and paintings of Orkz and Grotz. He gave them so much character and emotion.
I was so excited to get more green skins, but these guys are just so joyless
That's 40k orks for me. I don't really feel like AoS has that theme of absurdity that 40k has thanks to its grimdark setting.
@@EcopiuM fantasy Orks haven't always been goofy or absurd.. but they at least the fight. They enjoy getting stuck in and they enjoy winning. The Orks/Orruks were the one army that didn't have a grim determined look to them; and now they lost that.
@@frostmagemarii Fantasy isn't AOS mate nor have their Orruks lost their nature you still literally have the Ironjawz and Bonesplitterz.
I actually prefer more serious/evil orcs instead of the usual "funny" warhammer orks.
Same. I don’t like goofy orks. I like menacing “they will eat your brain” kinda if Orcs
It is not that they should be funny, but in the lore Orks love fighting and killing. It makes them happy and maniacal. If an Ork is smiling it is a terrible sight, because he is doing something murderous or daydreaming about the worst ways to maim and kill
These are different orks. There's room for more than one kind.
Same! I'm tiered of the old goofy orks. A more serious warband of orks is all I wanted.
Calling them orcs was a mistake on GW's part, they are clearly Hobgoblins, the cruel, spiteful and gangly cousins of orcs and goblins.
You're bang on mate. That's how I'll be playing them. Bitter and sinister.
That being said, I have always found GW’s orc designs somewhat comical and have therefore avoided them. I love these though!
@@66grinner That's what made them special to me, never felt they were less dangerous for just jollier about it.
personally, I call them HobOrcs
Yes, exactly my thoughts, these are all hob-... I don't like the AoS setting but I can imagine these as part of some evil army in the old world.
Sorry Doctor Gooby, gotta go against you on this one, love mean orkz.
even when orks are mean, they have a good time doin it. These zoggin gitz are just like, not.
I had a lot of fun painting these. Used a UV reactive paint on some details so that they look like normal till you hit with a black light. The effect was awesome
nice! :-)
I think if they manage to balance the sillyness and fun in the traditional orcs, and the cunning slyness in these guys, I can see that working. I quite like the idea of having orcs that are scary for being cruel and devious, but also like the idea of having a choice between the two vibes.
For smiling orcs go for Ironjawz. For crazy orcs go for Bonspilttaz. For cold, evil orcs go for Kruleboyz. Honestly speaking, from both a business GW perspective and army diversity perspective there is no need for another orc sub-faction that is similar to the current ones. As other people in the comments have said this sub-faction is heavily inspired by Lord of the Rings orcs and that's never a bad thing. The models looks awesome and the faction adds more diversity to the destruction grand alliance.
It's good to see that these orcs have some fans! I just miss the good 'ol days when all of my orcs were silly :-)
Now, will these make good fishing lures?
They look pokey enough to be used as hook AND lure...for obviously big fish 😂
This is one of the best model line review videos I've seen! I especially love how you talked about how they were like building and coming up with a plan to build. A really important part of making a model that not enough people talk about!
personnaly i painted them like Uruk Haï from LOTR, worked pretty well, with brown-red skin
Orcs! Kruleboyz! Your paintjob and chat is great as always :) Like Jeremy, I'm here for the shorts & socks.
I really like the look of these new Orcs, I like the tolkien-esque style "more evil" style!
Feet being attached to bases/base textures have been a thorn in my side ever since I picked up my first warband for Underworlds.
Kind of felt an itch to get these at some point, but knowing this I might just pass and grab something else instead 😂
Wait until they come out as individual sets they most likely won't have the foot issue then
@@fudgeyman99 Yeah, 100% hoping for that.
The way GW has been doing things, the models in the huge boxes are like this. However, they will eventually release a multi-part kit with more options
Love the commentary and your personal opinions about the feel of the Orks. Thank you for being candid and creating a unique review video! Please continue this kind of content!
i actually built some extra hobgrots with the leftover parts (and i didn't even need greenstuff)
Nice! We'll see if we can do the same :D
A little bit of a green stuff and some peg legs and you could make a full extra 10 Hobgrots with boss, banner and musician. It's a surprisingly generous kit compared to recent other GW offerings.
@@JRobb84 i'm making some with sprue bits for legs and clothes of greenstuff, they'll be pirates. need a name for the hobgrot pirates though, do you know one
@@AviTheFire I jokingly refer to my peg leg Hobgrots as Hobblegrots 🤣
Its really inspiring to watch your reviews. I appreciate other youtubers that do unboxings but the fact that you also paint them too is very helpful. Good job.
Totally agree with all. What an amazing video as usual. Thanks and congrats for the channel.
The pins from the grenades that are in the mouth looks like a cigar.
I love it ❤️
"These orks aren't funny because they're not smiling"
The faction has a bunch of grots that ride a big Gollum looking thing that picks up and squishes enemies and they cheer and applaud it. Their main boss is riding a giant vulture and stops enemy spells while screaming MORK SEZ NO!!!! There's plenty of joy in this army, you just only see the surface level. Plus, they're morky orks. They're sadistic, not berserk battle hungry barbarians. Your idea of orks has been colored by the fandoms love of the memes around them. Most orks in lore are much more serious and terrifying than the way the fandom portrays them.
Fun video Brent 😊
I am sure you hear (read) it often, but your painting is outstanding...just amazing and even I dont paint anymore I like to watch your channel
"Welcome to Goobertown Hobbies, my name is Brent" at the start always give me the warm and fuzzies, it's so welcoming and relaxing :)
The argument about the orcs not smiling is really silly, from mine own collection of old and new orcs and from what I've seen online, I have found 2 orcs smiling. The maniak weirdnob for bonesplitterz and an old fantasy orc shaman. Most orcs are scowling, growling and/or shouting much like these orcs. Obviously these orruks are different from the old orcs but their build honestly remind me a lot of the old artwork and models from the 80s. Back then they weren't just massive slabs of muscle but more lanky and vicious looking.
I feel like they fit well in with the orruks, contrasting well against the other orruks while still having some familiar traits. A lot more interesting than just more of the same old same old.
I love the hulking brutes from the late fantasy. But the grognards saying these aren't real orcs just sound like old men shouting at the sky.
That's an interesting take; it really is a hard style break, even with the callback of the shields.
Speaking as someone completely new to the hobby, who also by complete chance got a half-set of already assembled Hobgrots second-hand (partially because they came really cheap and I couldn't find any of the more classic bulkier ones that weren't already painted - and it was before I found out you can safely remove paint) - I really like them.
They got this whole mean, ready-for-war "come at me bro" attitude to them, and all the faces reflect that, so I painted them all dirty and dark-green, instead of what the box-art shows you. Though they're really damn small and it was a pain in the ass to paint them as my first mini painting experience, I liked them so much that - because my half-set has a few duplicates - I got me another full set with all the parts to make my way and paint better now that I've had some practice.
I respect that your longevity in these games and what you have come to expect as a long time fan matters. I think I would feel the same way if I saw such a change. But as someone new to minis relatively, and completely a noob to Warhammer, these models feel so much more like orcs and hobgoblins that I have needed as D&D miniatures than the goofy silly "orukks" that Games Workshop have made their own. I just love these new Kruleboyz
I like the new Orks... but I've only been into Warhammer for 5 years and don't have any nostalgia for the old designs.
My first thought when I saw them was "wise, angry, apes" I do think they look great though. Nice video Brent
Its fun to hear your opinions, I didn't know i needed a hobgrot plugging it's ears with mushrooms, but boy now do I want one
Have to say the colours you picked would look great on the tabletop, I am looking forward to painting mine I was a little bit worried I would screw them up because they have such nice details.
Great Video Brent and the postman Pat legs at the start lets me know you mean business.
The only way to screw up a model is to never paint it. Go paint your orks you got this!
@@quikijiki cheers mate that is actually solid advice.
That's exactly how I feel about them. You nailed it.
why are goblins handling explosives so responsibly... I don't get it! ;-)
The exact thing you are complaining about is the thing i REALY like about the new Krewl Boyz. Mencaing, evil Orcs, instead of stupid, incompetend and funny.
This ^
Yeah, honestly they give me something that Orruks just dont...guess it helps to paint them up as LOTR orcs & goblins....However to me they can't compete with my Orks...nothing wrong with having both though
Same, I prefer the menacing capable orcs!
It's scarier that they're not having fun
I dig that Blue skin/black armor look man. Deff a way to set them apart from "warhammeresque" orks. vs. the Tolkien version these guys are.
I really like the red-skin and black-armour look.
I like the Kruleboyz for all the reasons that you hate them, which is probably also why I have never liked any of the other greenskins. I will likely only be collecting Kruleboyz as my only greenskins. I really like the new big monsters that are coming soon for the Kruleboyz.
Honest opinion appreciated
Thanks for taking the time to do a thorough video
Very glad I saw this before I started assembly (I'm slow to start). Knowing about other options in advance is very helpful!
You're more into the Beast Snagga's sounds like. With the grot wielding a big nail, riding in on a squig that has one wheel bolted on to it. Bombs strapped everywhere.
These are more serious and savage like the Orruk Warclans.
Thanks for the warning on the alt hobgrots! I am building the storm cast first so I can save what I really wanted the box for as an encouragement to finish ( probably do the same painting).
I like these orcs, as serious and tolkienesque as they may be, in fact their design convinced me to buy Dominion!
Good old Morglum Neckstabber. I never could quite work out how controlled his boar whilst waving around two axes, and his boars mutant forward facing teeth meant it was impossible to get him into base-to-base contact with anything. He was the pride and joy of my old greenskin army.
This is the standard a box reviews should uphold... Well done Goobs!
These are Tolkien-esque, in the style of the movies.
Even mordor orcs smiled and laughed while fighting and even sang songs in the books. Kruleboyz are too serious.
@@sweetryte2027 Yeah, but orcs in Tolkien were, generally, still pretty miserable. Living under the thumb of Sauron didn't leave much room for enjoyment. If LotR orcs laughed or sang, it was _in spite_ of Sauron.
As the song from the Return of the King animated movie attests, they are slaves to the Dark Lord's war.
Jackson-esque, if you will
I actually kind of prefer these orcs, I like there malicious way of fighting and that they are smart, it’s almost like the idea of the black orcs but instead of being bigga an arda they’re for agile and smarter making them almost more dangerous then the brute like breed of orcs
Why does Brent sound like he’s giving a valedictorian speech whenever he talks about orcs?
Well, he has a PHD and was a teaching assistant at some point so I think it's probably his default
I generally agree with you, however I think the best solution would have been to at least make the goblins more silly or maybe the banner or witchdoctor ones. Mix them up. I do think of AOS being a bit more dark and serious so I don't really mind them. But for 40k, keep them as they are. Silliest but best army of the xeno choices by far. Love my silly space orks.
Thx much appreciated for the review... A couple of weeks ago I bought the new edition of the " how to paint WH AoS edition" and now they included a fresh gutrripaz! On exchange for an nightwrath I think. A very well detailed mini with details not to difficult to paint.... Also the shield kick ass!
As Leonard Wisniewski said below, the Orks have a LOTR feel. In fact look at the Urak Hai that assault Helms Deep and you have it. Their backs are broad and their armour thick. We should be seeing that white wizard any time now. Night give you a feel for that skin tone you are looking for.
A great review. Thanks for taking the time to thoughtfully share as always. As a longtime LOTR fan, these figures strike me very much as Peter Jackson orcs and less so Warhammer orcs. It's akin to the tonal shift between The Hobbit goblins and orcs and then the Moria goblins and Isengard orcs. Where are the songs??? Where's the silly king?! This will be the first army I paint after I half-assembled a Skaven Start Collecting box but then lost it, so I'm eagerly soaking up any inspiration and help I can. I really love the vibrant skin tones and different colors of armor.
Glad to see you give them a fair shake to see how they struck you. As someone who is still very new to GW games, I guess my head canon for them is they have simply evolved differently from the main ork/orruk line (to put it in MtG terms maybe these guys are GB mindset vs mono red) and that is why they are far more serious. I am doing a test paint with some dark tan with hits of green for the skin and like it so far.
Great job as always sir!
9:12 Oh, that's a grenade pin in the Hobgrotz mouth? I thought it was a ceee-gar; and that he was the tough, no nonsense sergeant of the outfit; Sgt Apooon, "Look in to my eye!"
That is an eye-meltingly bright line up of gritz and boyz. For these minis, maybe a maggot-white skin would be the way to go; really leaning in to the grim-dark aesthetic.
What I absolutely love about this specific discourse is that it's probably how the different sects of orruks feel about each other.
I'm just here for socks and shorts
Same.
In one of my DnD worlds I made the goblins come from the Faewild and in addition to neon green, their skin tones range from electric blue to neon pink to highlighter yellow. Would love to see a video going over those bright skin tones like you did for the pink and blue ones here. Great video Brent!
Waking up to a new GT video, nothing is better.
I had the exact same broken pieces in my box, but they were super easy fixes. Maybe they were never even attached to the part on the sprue to begin with, haha.
I don't get the thing about the bits at 2:40. Surely you decide what models you want to build, and then look which bits you need? With the old multi-pose kits, you wouldn't say "Be careful, you can use the legs/torso to make a regular soldier. Don't get tricked into making a standard bearer!"
Great video - deliciously hot take! I definitely like them on their own merits (I’m painting an army of them now) but was never a big Ork fan before.
Even though i havent painted any minis in a few month i love coming back to the channel to see Goober enjoying the hobby!
Nice perspective Brent.) Thanks for showing us some different colored skins too!
Hobgoblins are a breed of goblins that served the Chaos Dwarves.
Take a look at old chaos Dwarves and you will understand why.
Fair point... but counterpoint, Kruleboyz is spelled with a K and a Z... with a name like that I feel like they should be funnier :-)
I am also a big Ork fan. They were amongst the first minis that I ever painted and I have maintained an Ork unit in all my games. I have a collection of Kruleboyz to use in Warcry and probably some of my other skirmish games. I enjoyed painting them but they definitely do not have the charm of the previous models.
Honestly since it’s hard to find other orcs right now it’s a total bummer. I couldn’t put my finger on why I didn’t like them other than they were super Lotr but it’s the silly stupidness the smiles that I’m totally missing. Orcs are supposed to be the only ones having fun.
Looking forward to more of these actual mini reviews - especially appreciated the build option tip about model instructions spilling over to the next page.
Btw Brent, the instructions for the hobgrots seemed clear to me, but I can see how you might have misunderstood them... In any case I managed to bash together 1 extra hobgrot leader and 1 extra hornblower
On skin tones; the turquoise/light blue grot really stands out, maybe paint them like the troll faction from Warmachine/hordes! :)
Just got done with your Unboxing minutes ago. Good coverage, thanks.
I've not been interpreting them as classic hammer orcs, or Orruks for that matter, I saw somewhere referring to the AOS version of hobgoblins and that was what made them click for me, instead of them being the loveable gorilla orcs or wacky goblins plus my love for the chaos dorfs. Color scheme wise, I'm taking inspiration from the pale orc in the hobbit, some Celt blue woad, and probably yellow armor. I also wish i could have a whole army of warg riders, I mean gnashtoofs
In the 90s I played 40k exclusively, but a friend finally goaded me into playing Warhammer Fantasy. I told him I'd only play if the army I had was "simply fun". I read over some of the lists, and landed on orcs & goblins. Between semi-cowardly madcap gobbos, snarling greenskin animosity, ludicrously unreliable war engines, tiny-yet-unbreakable snotlings, stupid yet dangerous trolls and lumbering giants, they were a non-stop kneeslapper of an army list to bring to the table. These Kruleboyz are nice models, but I agree that they ain't the fun greenskins of old.
Great looking kit but I was hoping for less grimdark and more.. grimdappled?
I like the idea that the Kruleboyz aren't liked by the other orcs and gobbos.
I mean they're monopose because it's the starter set. Buying the units individually gets you a different sprue with more freedom. Also all the shields are representative of how the orruks see themselves, you ask to see more but it's already there.
The Slitta holding the banner at 8:34 is smiling. now to just implement that to every other model...
i personally really like these, and I like that they are quite serious - that being said, the silliness of the orkz is one of the best things about them imo, so i do hope that this is an exception and not the new rule. i think a good mix of both would be perfect! it makes the serious orkz look more serious and the silly orkz look more silly in comparison. of course, the ideal scenario is that GW gives every ork player the necessary bits and therefore the choice of whether they want to play serious orkz or silly orkz, but that's probably not gonna happen.
I dont mind the more serious version of orks. They are for people who like orcs but not the goofiness of the 40k orkz.
Love the video Brent! How did you find building the shaman?! When I followed the instructions I attached the first part of the front of its body into the wrong slot and then near the end realised it was wrong! The instructions were trash
I mean, the silliness gripe is a bit... silly?? Given the theme of this Ork schism I like the more serious look, that’s what make these KRUEL BOYZ. Theyre a small but distinct type of Ork in the mortal realms. These lads dont have much to smile about - they’re skinny, have to rely on sneaky tactics and live in swamps. What would be funny is seeing them paired with the classic goofy fun Orks. The contrast could provide an extra layer of comedy.
You perfectly summed up why these are my favourite GW orcs so far :P
So I did get this box and I have to say that in no little part it was because of the Orks! Even the angry/serious looking ones! Good video Brent! 👍💙💛💙
I love the silliness of classic orcs. I didn't feel like Ironjawz had it. Gloomspite Gitz do, but I was busy with my skaven when they came out. The Kruleboyz are definitely not Boyz. But I really do like their aesthetic. I'm planning to paint mine terracotta. I want them to look like they are risen out of clay. I think that will set them apart and also offset them from the swampy green bases.
Personally, I kind of like the direction that GW have taken with the Greenskins in AoS. If you want a more grounded and Tolkeinesque Orky look, you have Kruleboyz. If you want classic Warhammer Fantasy Orks, you have Ironjawz or Bonesplitterz. And if you want whimsical fantasy, you have Gloomspite Gitz