The Verdict on Kruleboyz. Full Review From an Orc Grognard.
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- Here's what you need to know about the Kruleboyz model line. After spending a few weeks painting the new "orruks" from Age of Sigmar 3.0 Dominion, I'm ready to give my verdict on these figures! This video is a bit of an experiment, I wanted to see what an in-depth model line review would look like on the goobertown channel. Since I love Warhammer Fantasy orcs, I decided to give this a try with the kruleboyz!
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These Orcs really have a LOTR feeling to me.
Ya, really spindly and gross. Good models.
Definitely. Same here.
Agreed. Don't mind it though.
Right? Such evil, nasty looking, Mordor vibes. From the movies at least
Same and I don't know how I feel about it lol. They look sick just not Warhammer to me
There is definitely a hint of Tolkiens Orcs in the design of these guys, they're more of Mordor than of Mork. Which is what I think separates them from the other orks, even the fairly newer ranges like Gloomspite Gitz and Orruk Warclans have carried on that innate "Orkiness" you spoke about. In regards to your point about skin tones, I think moving away from the typical green helps. I painted up a Kruleboy with a pale, almost white skin tone and it looked even less like an Ork. It kind of became it's own thing and I much preferred the effect it had on the miniature overall.
Thanks for the detailed and concise breakdown on these. It is a much more useful rundown for people looking to get into this range.
To much Mordor..I don't like em.
Mordor was my immediate thought as well. I really like the look myself, but I am also brand new to Warhammer and don't have much previous biases. I will say that agree these guys feel like they belong in their own army seperate from other Ork Boyz.
Even mordor orcs smiled and laughed while fighting and even sang songs in the books. Kruleboyz are too serious.
I think it's because they're based on the hobgoblins rather than the normal greenskins. Both groups of them tended to be less silly and more nasty...
Could you post a picture of the pale Kruleboy? Im kinda interested now
It's funny, I think people like orks and orrucs for different reasons, I personally ALMOST loved the look of the other 40k and AoS orks, but to me they were a bit too goofy. One of my favourite things about collecting an army in this hobby is, collecting something badass, with just a hint of absurdity. For me, these new orruks actually got the sweet spot to a point where I am excited to start collecting them! I get where you're coming from though, it's a bit disappointing if something that was already hitting the sweet spot for you isn't any more. Thanks for making this video and sharing your thoughts! I love learning about the different reasons people love the hobby!
These guys are the perfect opposite of normal orks. These guys are Kunnin and Brutal instead of Brutal and Kunnin same with other aspects. They look mean, lean and ready to stab you in the back instead of goofy, buff and smiling while smashing you in the face. I would be afraid of these and take them serious in a fight while normal orks are fun and goofy. Both portray the opposites perfectly. But a bit more glee in their faces and a slight smirk would have been appreciated.
Honestly to me they look to messy but I do love the seriousness of them the only problem is trying to make them fit into an orruk army
jea... just finished the Dominion Audiobook and i can tell you: NOTHING about those guys is goofy or funny in the slightest way. They are kind of the Nightlords of AOS
I specifically prefer the Kruleboyz over other Orks/Orruks because they are not silly. Goofiness in an army is a quick turn off to me. I'm glad that I finally like Orks and will collect them!!!
Nice to see you here jazza!
I love how divided the comments are. Some people want their orcs smiling, and others want their orcs serious and mean. And these are something for the later group
I think it gives a nice mix, will say I'd like less serious Hobgrots though. That's why i'm actually gonna do a little kitbashin for them, looking for some gobbo heads to fit, the other night gave the drummer a ram skull mask.
But that's the exact thing - Orks have a duality in them. They have Gork and Mork. They have brutality and kunnin'. They have beefcake doofuses and sneaky meanies. That's the way they should be!
Stop worrying about them not fitting your preference, embrace that now there are new members to the WAAAAGH!
@@trzynasty909 Sure.. but the usual thing for Orks is that they enjoy the fight. Even if not happy/goofy, they at least enjoy getting stuck in. And y'know.. maybe people would be a bit more open to these orks being side by side with the ironjawz, if not for the fact that the Kruleboyz have more models in their line up at release than Ironjawz have in general.
@@trzynasty909 You said it perfectly!
Personal take here. Gloomspite gitz are the best greenskin faction GW have ever made. Perfect blend of horrifying lunacy mixed with humor
this is correct! :-)
With the shield designs all being analogous to the models' faces, I feel reasonably confident in thinking that Stab Grot has a leering grin under that helm.
But it's a kruel grin, not a joyous one.
Killaboss on gnashtooth has ahegayo face, thats anough fun for me.
Orcs not smiling is strangely an extremely valid criticism
I'm not super familiar with the setting but from what I've seen Age of Sigmar was an attempt to make fantasy more grimdark like the much more popular 40k series. The fact that none of the orks (sorry, orruksTM) are smiling could be a symptom of that
But they are orruks, not orks.
@@cristhianmlr orruks is a stupid name so I’m not gonna call them that though I will admit I spelled the wrong kind of Orc
@@chrissedgwick8854 honestly it's the other way around haha,
AOS is more cartoonish than fantasy, so it's weird they've changed up for new orcs
@@chrissedgwick8854 It isn't really more grimdark than fantasy. If anything it's been a lot more noble bright.
I'm an Orc fan and I actually love the look of these new Orcs but I also appreciate old school Orcs.
I hope they don’t get rid of the old look
I found this channel last week by accident. Did not really know much about Warhammer; now I’m $350 poorer holding a Dominion box and a hug bag of paint. Thanks, I think. Much love.
It's really frustrating how often GW makes pre-fab bases part of the feet these days. It really wouldn't be that much harder to include the "scenic" base bit, with a tab to slot the feet in. And it'd allow for a lot more creativity.
Agreed. The feet need to be attached to the legs, not to the base decorations. When I have more than one of a monopose figure, basing it differently is just about the only way to distinguish between them without using a hacksaw and greenstuff.
I like these serious orks. The goofy orks put me off and im only interested now in starting a force with these kruleboyz models
I like the lotr style orks. Tolkien inspired or Peter Jackson if you want to be technical.
I mean, GW sells Lord of the Rings orcs if you want that. Let warhammer orks be their own thing.
Same, I'm glad somebody else said it. I never liked orcs being as goofy as they are, it always makes it feel a bit stupid when a supposed savage, brutal horde of destruction are all goofy and silly. It works better in Oldhammer, and in 40K since there is a significant degree of satire to the whole setting, but Age of Sigmar always felt like it's played pretty straight. There's still factions like the Gloomspite Gits if you want something more silly, but I think the more serious and, well, krule style fits orruks in AoS much better.
Was this reply really necessary? If the dude like these mini's thats totally fine, just like you dislike them is. No need to push people towards another game.
@@hellayeproductions6739 Why not both? They both still exist right? :)
Same here
"If you're willing to give your children murknobs and a hobby knife" lol!
The best thing about Warhammer on an aesthetic level is the marriage of grimdark ultraviolence with a sense of tongue-in-cheek, goofy charm that would really kill the identity of the setting if it were lost - having the ridiculous insanity of ogryns and ratlings alongside the dystopian horror of servitors, as an example, is something I greatly appreciate and I'd probably abandon the IP if I found it to be absent one day
The Kruleboyz are a new serious line of orcs! That's cool and all, but how you gonna be serious and still spell your name with a "Z" ? :-)
There is a distinct dissonance in tone for sure, and I say this as someone that bought this line (but then again, just for the fun of painting because I love ALL types of orc out there).
As I wrote elsewhere, we kinda lost the "baseline orc" anyway. Ironjawz have all a Black Orc (WHFB) attitude, with no foil in the normal boy. Bonesplitterz are the savage version of...? Who?
Do Ironjawz smile? They seem to enjoy it a bit more, admittedly.
By bein' an ORK!
Alliteration
@@maxhammer7570 *orruk
@@cristhianmlr have you cracked it? Is this the secret? Does the name orruk make orks serious?
I feel the same way about them. I need my orks with a dash of goofy
I really like Paul Bonner's drawings and paintings of Orkz and Grotz. He gave them so much character and emotion.
I was so excited to get more green skins, but these guys are just so joyless
That's 40k orks for me. I don't really feel like AoS has that theme of absurdity that 40k has thanks to its grimdark setting.
@@EcopiuM fantasy Orks haven't always been goofy or absurd.. but they at least the fight. They enjoy getting stuck in and they enjoy winning. The Orks/Orruks were the one army that didn't have a grim determined look to them; and now they lost that.
@@frostmagemarii Fantasy isn't AOS mate nor have their Orruks lost their nature you still literally have the Ironjawz and Bonesplitterz.
“Like most modern warhammer kits they’re pieced together in mind bending ways” this is the most applicable point to me, someone who’s returning to the hobby after a decade and a half absence. I’m glad the kits are more expressive but holy shit I need to follow the instructions so much more!
I'm glad you take your time to review these in a very thorough and methodical way. Less click baity GW-bashing, more honest thoughts that are interesting to listen to.
Sorry Doctor Gooby, gotta go against you on this one, love mean orkz.
even when orks are mean, they have a good time doin it. These zoggin gitz are just like, not.
For smiling orcs go for Ironjawz. For crazy orcs go for Bonspilttaz. For cold, evil orcs go for Kruleboyz. Honestly speaking, from both a business GW perspective and army diversity perspective there is no need for another orc sub-faction that is similar to the current ones. As other people in the comments have said this sub-faction is heavily inspired by Lord of the Rings orcs and that's never a bad thing. The models looks awesome and the faction adds more diversity to the destruction grand alliance.
It's good to see that these orcs have some fans! I just miss the good 'ol days when all of my orcs were silly :-)
Oh man so glad to see all those extra bits from the grots, I gotta build myself a 3 legged grot for a game coming up. I enjoyed the review.
I was impressed how good the mold lines in this box. They're getting better with running them down grooves and between armor plates for the most part
Calling them orcs was a mistake on GW's part, they are clearly Hobgoblins, the cruel, spiteful and gangly cousins of orcs and goblins.
You're bang on mate. That's how I'll be playing them. Bitter and sinister.
That being said, I have always found GW’s orc designs somewhat comical and have therefore avoided them. I love these though!
@@66grinner That's what made them special to me, never felt they were less dangerous for just jollier about it.
personally, I call them HobOrcs
Yes, exactly my thoughts, these are all hob-... I don't like the AoS setting but I can imagine these as part of some evil army in the old world.
Orcs! Kruleboyz! Your paintjob and chat is great as always :) Like Jeremy, I'm here for the shorts & socks.
I actually prefer more serious/evil orcs instead of the usual "funny" warhammer orks.
Same. I don’t like goofy orks. I like menacing “they will eat your brain” kinda if Orcs
It is not that they should be funny, but in the lore Orks love fighting and killing. It makes them happy and maniacal. If an Ork is smiling it is a terrible sight, because he is doing something murderous or daydreaming about the worst ways to maim and kill
These are different orks. There's room for more than one kind.
Same! I'm tiered of the old goofy orks. A more serious warband of orks is all I wanted.
The argument about the orcs not smiling is really silly, from mine own collection of old and new orcs and from what I've seen online, I have found 2 orcs smiling. The maniak weirdnob for bonesplitterz and an old fantasy orc shaman. Most orcs are scowling, growling and/or shouting much like these orcs. Obviously these orruks are different from the old orcs but their build honestly remind me a lot of the old artwork and models from the 80s. Back then they weren't just massive slabs of muscle but more lanky and vicious looking.
I feel like they fit well in with the orruks, contrasting well against the other orruks while still having some familiar traits. A lot more interesting than just more of the same old same old.
I love the hulking brutes from the late fantasy. But the grognards saying these aren't real orcs just sound like old men shouting at the sky.
Now, will these make good fishing lures?
They look pokey enough to be used as hook AND lure...for obviously big fish 😂
This is one of the best model line review videos I've seen! I especially love how you talked about how they were like building and coming up with a plan to build. A really important part of making a model that not enough people talk about!
Love the commentary and your personal opinions about the feel of the Orks. Thank you for being candid and creating a unique review video! Please continue this kind of content!
I had a lot of fun painting these. Used a UV reactive paint on some details so that they look like normal till you hit with a black light. The effect was awesome
nice! :-)
My first thought when I saw them was "wise, angry, apes" I do think they look great though. Nice video Brent
I really like the look of these new Orcs, I like the tolkien-esque style "more evil" style!
Feet being attached to bases/base textures have been a thorn in my side ever since I picked up my first warband for Underworlds.
Kind of felt an itch to get these at some point, but knowing this I might just pass and grab something else instead 😂
Wait until they come out as individual sets they most likely won't have the foot issue then
@@fudgeyman99 Yeah, 100% hoping for that.
The way GW has been doing things, the models in the huge boxes are like this. However, they will eventually release a multi-part kit with more options
The pins from the grenades that are in the mouth looks like a cigar.
I love it ❤️
They’re supposed to be cruel, not funny. They are meant to kill, not throw a party on the battlefield.
They gotta be funnier if they're gonna spell Kruleboyz with a K and a Z... ;-)
Wow, a faction full of savage murderers in a game about war arent smiling, how dare they
@@sybutt7528 Exactly
I am sure you hear (read) it often, but your painting is outstanding...just amazing and even I dont paint anymore I like to watch your channel
That's an interesting take; it really is a hard style break, even with the callback of the shields.
Its really inspiring to watch your reviews. I appreciate other youtubers that do unboxings but the fact that you also paint them too is very helpful. Good job.
"Welcome to Goobertown Hobbies, my name is Brent" at the start always give me the warm and fuzzies, it's so welcoming and relaxing :)
Kruleboyz are my favorite age of sigmar army. But I love this video regardless :)
fair enough! the models are great, I'm just grumpy that they're not the old silly orcs :-)
Have to say the colours you picked would look great on the tabletop, I am looking forward to painting mine I was a little bit worried I would screw them up because they have such nice details.
Great Video Brent and the postman Pat legs at the start lets me know you mean business.
The only way to screw up a model is to never paint it. Go paint your orks you got this!
@@quikijiki cheers mate that is actually solid advice.
"These orks aren't funny because they're not smiling"
The faction has a bunch of grots that ride a big Gollum looking thing that picks up and squishes enemies and they cheer and applaud it. Their main boss is riding a giant vulture and stops enemy spells while screaming MORK SEZ NO!!!! There's plenty of joy in this army, you just only see the surface level. Plus, they're morky orks. They're sadistic, not berserk battle hungry barbarians. Your idea of orks has been colored by the fandoms love of the memes around them. Most orks in lore are much more serious and terrifying than the way the fandom portrays them.
Its fun to hear your opinions, I didn't know i needed a hobgrot plugging it's ears with mushrooms, but boy now do I want one
The exact thing you are complaining about is the thing i REALY like about the new Krewl Boyz. Mencaing, evil Orcs, instead of stupid, incompetend and funny.
This ^
Yeah, honestly they give me something that Orruks just dont...guess it helps to paint them up as LOTR orcs & goblins....However to me they can't compete with my Orks...nothing wrong with having both though
Same, I prefer the menacing capable orcs!
It's scarier that they're not having fun
So I did get this box and I have to say that in no little part it was because of the Orks! Even the angry/serious looking ones! Good video Brent! 👍💙💛💙
I respect that your longevity in these games and what you have come to expect as a long time fan matters. I think I would feel the same way if I saw such a change. But as someone new to minis relatively, and completely a noob to Warhammer, these models feel so much more like orcs and hobgoblins that I have needed as D&D miniatures than the goofy silly "orukks" that Games Workshop have made their own. I just love these new Kruleboyz
I dig that Blue skin/black armor look man. Deff a way to set them apart from "warhammeresque" orks. vs. the Tolkien version these guys are.
I really like the red-skin and black-armour look.
Looking forward to more of these actual mini reviews - especially appreciated the build option tip about model instructions spilling over to the next page.
i actually built some extra hobgrots with the leftover parts (and i didn't even need greenstuff)
Nice! We'll see if we can do the same :D
A little bit of a green stuff and some peg legs and you could make a full extra 10 Hobgrots with boss, banner and musician. It's a surprisingly generous kit compared to recent other GW offerings.
@@JRobb84 i'm making some with sprue bits for legs and clothes of greenstuff, they'll be pirates. need a name for the hobgrot pirates though, do you know one
@@AviOfTheAbyss I jokingly refer to my peg leg Hobgrots as Hobblegrots 🤣
Honest opinion appreciated
Thanks for taking the time to do a thorough video
Please do more reviews
Absolutely flawless, I have been watching for a while and I'm having trouble putting into words how much I enjoyed this video.It's incredible how well you were able to completely digest the model at 10:33
Totally agree with all. What an amazing video as usual. Thanks and congrats for the channel.
Fun video Brent 😊
Which paints did you use to paint that chipped metal mini nk I’ve fallen in love with it and I want to use it to paint my kruleboyz when I paint them
Orcs really SHOULD be fun!
Imo (as someone who has never play orks until now) I love this guys - but I’m all about the grimdark!
I like the idea that the Kruleboyz aren't liked by the other orcs and gobbos.
Even though i havent painted any minis in a few month i love coming back to the channel to see Goober enjoying the hobby!
Waking up to a new GT video, nothing is better.
Very glad I saw this before I started assembly (I'm slow to start). Knowing about other options in advance is very helpful!
how did you manage the one with the horn!! i love the skin effect on that one!!!! looks like those grots from the snot wagon but different
Hobgoblins are a breed of goblins that served the Chaos Dwarves.
Take a look at old chaos Dwarves and you will understand why.
Fair point... but counterpoint, Kruleboyz is spelled with a K and a Z... with a name like that I feel like they should be funnier :-)
That's exactly how I feel about them. You nailed it.
why are goblins handling explosives so responsibly... I don't get it! ;-)
In one of my DnD worlds I made the goblins come from the Faewild and in addition to neon green, their skin tones range from electric blue to neon pink to highlighter yellow. Would love to see a video going over those bright skin tones like you did for the pink and blue ones here. Great video Brent!
Loved the review! Please could you tell me how you did the base coat and dappling to achieve that rusted armour look?
Honestly since it’s hard to find other orcs right now it’s a total bummer. I couldn’t put my finger on why I didn’t like them other than they were super Lotr but it’s the silly stupidness the smiles that I’m totally missing. Orcs are supposed to be the only ones having fun.
Great video and I can tell you put a lot of effort into it! I really enjoyed your take and hadn’t thought of that because I did not grow up with warhammer and just got in with AOS.
Just got done with your Unboxing minutes ago. Good coverage, thanks.
Speaking as someone completely new to the hobby, who also by complete chance got a half-set of already assembled Hobgrots second-hand (partially because they came really cheap and I couldn't find any of the more classic bulkier ones that weren't already painted - and it was before I found out you can safely remove paint) - I really like them.
They got this whole mean, ready-for-war "come at me bro" attitude to them, and all the faces reflect that, so I painted them all dirty and dark-green, instead of what the box-art shows you. Though they're really damn small and it was a pain in the ass to paint them as my first mini painting experience, I liked them so much that - because my half-set has a few duplicates - I got me another full set with all the parts to make my way and paint better now that I've had some practice.
Can you use blue stuff to clone?
You're more into the Beast Snagga's sounds like. With the grot wielding a big nail, riding in on a squig that has one wheel bolted on to it. Bombs strapped everywhere.
These are more serious and savage like the Orruk Warclans.
I like these orcs, as serious and tolkienesque as they may be, in fact their design convinced me to buy Dominion!
Thank you for this Video!
I really enjoyed seeing your color explorations! Have you settled on any color combination(s) that you like most?
Are new GW minis 28mm or 32mm scale? not sure about
OMG you hit the nail on the head! These boyz need a krumpen
I mean, the silliness gripe is a bit... silly?? Given the theme of this Ork schism I like the more serious look, that’s what make these KRUEL BOYZ. Theyre a small but distinct type of Ork in the mortal realms. These lads dont have much to smile about - they’re skinny, have to rely on sneaky tactics and live in swamps. What would be funny is seeing them paired with the classic goofy fun Orks. The contrast could provide an extra layer of comedy.
A great review. Thanks for taking the time to thoughtfully share as always. As a longtime LOTR fan, these figures strike me very much as Peter Jackson orcs and less so Warhammer orcs. It's akin to the tonal shift between The Hobbit goblins and orcs and then the Moria goblins and Isengard orcs. Where are the songs??? Where's the silly king?! This will be the first army I paint after I half-assembled a Skaven Start Collecting box but then lost it, so I'm eagerly soaking up any inspiration and help I can. I really love the vibrant skin tones and different colors of armor.
Excellent video, great review, thanks!
Laughing hard at "We should all try to smile more - and that includes Orks too"
Love the video Brent! How did you find building the shaman?! When I followed the instructions I attached the first part of the front of its body into the wrong slot and then near the end realised it was wrong! The instructions were trash
Awesome video, love the bright green with blue armor one a LOT.
been out of the sigmar side of GW for a long while but are these intended to replace the older Orcs ? or Orruk as they are now called ?
@@spartangareth2 ah nice I still love those older chunky mini's . I still have a bunch of even older 90's metals too
In the 90s I played 40k exclusively, but a friend finally goaded me into playing Warhammer Fantasy. I told him I'd only play if the army I had was "simply fun". I read over some of the lists, and landed on orcs & goblins. Between semi-cowardly madcap gobbos, snarling greenskin animosity, ludicrously unreliable war engines, tiny-yet-unbreakable snotlings, stupid yet dangerous trolls and lumbering giants, they were a non-stop kneeslapper of an army list to bring to the table. These Kruleboyz are nice models, but I agree that they ain't the fun greenskins of old.
Why this guys door isn't being knocked down with offers to read Audio Books is a shame.
I get people’s love for the old Orc aesthetic, but honestly I like the new KruleBoyz WAY better! These also line up a lot better with the rest of the AoS vibe in general.
They’re Grimdark - so I love ‘em. All hail to more realism in fantasy- whaargh!
These are Tolkien-esque, in the style of the movies.
Even mordor orcs smiled and laughed while fighting and even sang songs in the books. Kruleboyz are too serious.
@@sweetryte2027 Yeah, but orcs in Tolkien were, generally, still pretty miserable. Living under the thumb of Sauron didn't leave much room for enjoyment. If LotR orcs laughed or sang, it was _in spite_ of Sauron.
As the song from the Return of the King animated movie attests, they are slaves to the Dark Lord's war.
Jackson-esque, if you will
Goobz, when did you secretly become awesome at painting? I know that's not what the video is about, but hot damn those highlights are clean!
You perfectly summed up why these are my favourite GW orcs so far :P
i am in complete agreement with you, these are not Orks. These are extra's from a LOTR line that GW forgot to release. i do think they would do well with a more humanish skin color, maybe a mustard yellow
I think if they manage to balance the sillyness and fun in the traditional orcs, and the cunning slyness in these guys, I can see that working. I quite like the idea of having orcs that are scary for being cruel and devious, but also like the idea of having a choice between the two vibes.
Why does Brent sound like he’s giving a valedictorian speech whenever he talks about orcs?
Well, he has a PHD and was a teaching assistant at some point so I think it's probably his default
Good old Morglum Neckstabber. I never could quite work out how controlled his boar whilst waving around two axes, and his boars mutant forward facing teeth meant it was impossible to get him into base-to-base contact with anything. He was the pride and joy of my old greenskin army.
I actually kind of prefer these orcs, I like there malicious way of fighting and that they are smart, it’s almost like the idea of the black orcs but instead of being bigga an arda they’re for agile and smarter making them almost more dangerous then the brute like breed of orcs
Idk. I feel like the Ironjawz were more serious too. Maybe not as sinister as the Kruleboyz but they weren't comical like the Bonesplitterz or Gloomspite. I like the variety
That shaman is smiling, look at him- he's loving it!
I dont mind the more serious version of orks. They are for people who like orcs but not the goofiness of the 40k orkz.
the bright colors just make me see the anger more clearly
The new kruleboyz ,though I hated them at first, but have grown on me. After hearing that they were inspired by oldhammer models I decided to flip through some old Warhammer fantasy battle books. That’s when when the old lightbulb flickered on. What if I use them as Half-Orcs from 3rd Ed. They just look like a twisted tall goblin anyway to me 😄 Also great video as always Goober!!
Great video - deliciously hot take! I definitely like them on their own merits (I’m painting an army of them now) but was never a big Ork fan before.
This may not be the best place to ask, but I'm searching through Brent's videos looking for a moment where he shows off a cloak painted by someone else, they had almost a crosshatched cloth style. I cannot find that for the life of me, anyone have a clue?
th-cam.com/video/YopEgZZgDeI/w-d-xo.html here ya go ;-)