@@Dylasophical lol chabuddy has a point, that guy playing joel is a nice actor and i would love to watch the last of us as a series , other than that red dead redemption would be a nice movie and god of war too
@@2xmajnubhai523 Well I can tell he didn't even watch the video and he was just responding to the thumbnail, lol. I have reasons, and I don't just gobble up every TV show and movie that comes out. I have real issues with the integrity of certain ideas.
Bruh he has a point.. I'm anticipating the series, yes, but I Know it won't be as good as the game. Assuming they focused on something else in thesame Last of us world, it would be ok, like a deep story of the fireflies or the smugglers, yunno something that'll bring us soaked to the details of the world attached to a story that isn't Joel and Ellie... Joel and Ellie's story is already perfected and doesn't need a life action remake, we need something else.. The last of us is a huge world, hundreds of stories to be made out of, I feel like they should have picked another story
For me this series is interesting because not everyone have a ps4 or a ps5 to play this game. I talked about the last of us game to a lot of people, saying that the story is amazing, but many of them don't even like to play video games. With this series, the story of the last of us will be accessible for everyone, and I am exited by that, those characters are so great, this story is so moving, she deserves to be known by as many people as possible
@@Dylasophical Adapting a story that is essentially timeless if you think about it isn't lazy. Another example of that All Quiet in the Western Front. Different genres sure but they get adapted a lot for a reason. Granted this is the first TLOU adaptation but you'll see more of them down the line.
@@brycebirkinbine4119 Adapting it in a visual medium after it was already perfect in a visual medium is lazy to me. Especially since there have already been 2 remasters in the past 9 years. It's different when updating a story from 1950 to 2020, where technology is completely different. But this game came out in 2013, so there's nothing to adapt in my head.
@@Dylasophical Video Games is a form of entertainment that hasn't gained access to everybody yet. Having an adaptation of an excellent story for non gamers to see is a good idea. While I agree doing adaptations consistently is lazy as hell but you get the right people involved to make it right I don't see how it is lazy. Especially since this guy made probably one of if not the greatest miniseries of all time... Now Uncharted was lazy as hell
Meanwhile Hollywood copying entire stories from books, games, comics plus going further to make cheesy remakes. That’s your defence? As long as it works really well and engages the audience, any content works man. Even if it is a lazy remake of whatever you wanna say. If after all that it’s a hit among the audience, then HBO and its creators have done the job well. Plus, not everyone has a console or a PC but everyone does want to get involved with stories - Good stories and that’s the part what they are trying to achieve. Its not only about us gamers there but trying to capture a new audience base as well if they can. Whether it works or not is a different thing, but if it’s done well then the new audience base which does not game will be very happy regardless.
The show hasn't even come out and y'all judging it already. Yes it will be a direct replication of the game's story BUT it doesn't just end there, they'll also expand and explore stories that have been mentioned in game. Like Ellie's mom, Anna, idk how accurate this is but she'll apparently be played by Ashley Johnson as it is confirmed that Troy and Ashley will be in the show, obviously not as Joel and Ellie but other interesting characters.
Yeah, but not everybody plays video games. I don't, but I've watched the Last of Is game play movie on TH-cam. I thought it was great, but I have to admit that there's a disconnect because I still have a problem completely relating to CGI characters. I wish I didn't have that problem, but it's true.
To be fair, I love the last of us and it’s a story I really want to share with my mum. But she can’t play video games. So I’m grateful she’ll get to experience the story in some form
@@1nerdylegokid yeah as if I didn’t try that. She’s not a fan of animation, prefers to see real people, and it was hard to get her interest given that the first few hours of the last of us wouldn’t be that fun to watch given it’s a tutorial section. Not to mention the fact that gameplay was either skipped over, had fades because the player clearly died at some point in the next minute, or it was taking way too long.
@@Dylasophical your points are valid though. Honestly if the trailer didn’t look good, I’d still be in the “why is this even being made” camp. I’m just excited for my mum to watch it
You give valid arguments from the perspective of a gamer and a fan of TLOU. However, you're totally disregarding the fact that not everyone has played the games, and not everyone will. TLOU sold around 20 millions copies all in all; as an example, Game of Thrones, by the end of its run, had a viewership of almost 50 million people. Using that same example, I read the books before the show released, and I can tell you that 9/10 people I spoke to had never even heard of A Song of Ice and Fire before the show came out, and afterward it became a cult phenomenon. There's a large group of people that have not played the games and maybe never will, because they're non-gamers (they exist lol). So while I agree that as a fan of the games I'm not entirely sold on it, I understand that there are non-gamers out there who have never experienced the story and will get an opportunity to do so with the show.
This is slightly me playing devil's advocate, because trust me, I know most video game adaptations are bad and this could easily end up being another one of them. But as someone who hasn't played The Last of Us and hasn't touched a game controller in almost two years (my sister bought me Red Dead 2 for Christmas 2020 and I still haven't played it), I'm kinda seeing this the same way I'd think of a book being adapted to the screen. It may not work for fans of the game, but for someone like me I'm much more likely to watch the show than to play the game at this point, so it's a way for me to experience this story. In fact, watching the show (good or bad) might even motivate me to play the game. If the show is good I might play the game too experience the characters in a more emersive way. If the show is bad I might play the game to experience the superior version of the story. So your take is completely valid: this is likely a case of the studio just making a show to cash in on name recognition and nostalgia. But for me, who isn't much of a gamer anymore, it's a way for me to experience The Last of Us's story. Kinda like picking an audiobook over reading a physical copy. That's how I'm approaching it anyway.
Why do they make books into movies. Books are perfect, so what is the point of making a book into a movie. All the best books have been made into a movie, some have been great, some have been horrible, but they will continue to make books into movies. But why, well it comes down to money. Television and movies are vast medium that reaches way more people. Someone believed that the Last of US can be shared with a vast audience that will create someone more money. Are the games as good as you can get? Yes. Will the TV show be just as good, we can all hope. But watching them on a big screen with should be great. It might also help open the video game up to more people. Its a great story that should be shared and thankfully HBO is sharing it while trying to make money.
But books are different because it's not a visual medium. There aren't already established camera shots and iconic voice performances. You make up the people's voices and faces in your head, so there IS something different to visualize when they bring that to life. To see a character like Gandolf realized in live action is completely different in my opinion. But I get what you mean.
I think it's pretty selfish and naïve of you to only be thinking about the people who have PLAYED the game themselves. The whole intent from Neil Druckman was to tell this story through another form of media which is more contained and digestible for people who cannot play the game. Mostly 30+ adults or non gamers. Alternatively, it does add a new layer of realism and emotion to the story for previous players of the games with real life footage. New A list level acting (not just voice), cinematography, amazing writers, producers, set design, prosthetics, makeup, sfx. With HBO, Craig Mazin, and Druckman behind this along with everything I mentioned before, there is NO REAL reason to complain about this retelling. In no way will it be bad and in no way will it affect the original game / story. It seems you have failed to understand the intent of this show and the blatantly obvious benefits to another version and have chosen to criticize and negatively detest this show for views and attention on your TH-cam channel.
Side note: how did you manage to say Pedro and Bella won't be "OUR" Joel and Ellie when "OUR" versions are computer generated mocaps with great voice actors. This retelling could ultimately birth the best versions of Joel and Ellie we ever see THAT ARE ACTUALLY HUMAN. Games graduated over the years through technology into Story based playable Movies and Shows. Games took what worked from that artform and added interactivity. If it anything this story deserves to thrive and blossom in the artform the game is striving to emulate.
A character is a name and a story. The person playing them and how they look is not the main focus. Their main job is to make you feel like they really are that character. I have no doubt both will do that perfectly, so objectively they WILL be Joel and Ellie. Just as much, if not more, than the game versions.
No, I completely understand the intent of the show. Neil Druckman wants to live off of the same thing for a decade without making anything new because it's the easier than writing something original. Remaster, sequel, remaster, tv show.........MAKE SOMETHING NEW. And I'm tired of the "Not everyone is a gamer" argument. Not everyone watches TLC either. Should they make My 600 Pound Life into a video game so that more people can experience it? Sometimes certain experiences are made to be consumed in a certain way.
This will be like game of thrones. I definitely didn’t read the GOT books but I definitely watched the show. New fans will be able to experience the world of the last of us without playing the game. I don’t see the issue with adapting this into a show. This and metal gear to me is a no brainer.
Bud, adaptations in any genre is far from lazy. Books to movies, movies to tv shows, biographies to movies etc… it’s simply making a particular story in whatever medium accessible to a wide audience. An example, 2001 A Space Odyssey; originally a novel than adapted to a film. More people remember the movie than the film. You are certainly entitled to your opinion but understand that taking an incredible story from this game and making it accessible to a more broad and wider audience could have the potential to be something truly special.
I don't think this story is as "accessible" as people think. Controlling the characters yourself added another dimension to the characters, and a lot of the mass audience is just going to compare it to The Walking Dead. Not everything is made for everybody. Being a video game was an important part of why the story worked so well. I mean, lots of people don't watch TLC, so should they make My 600 Pound Life into a video game so more gamers can experience it?
Maybe it’s for people who don’t play video games or can’t afford a console. I mean you said it yourself, it’s a well written, emotional story and it’s a damn shame that people miss out on it
Some people just consume different media such as tv shows instead of videogames and I guess they want to bring this amazing story to that audience (also, to make money)
if Bruce Straley was still around, he wouldve kept Neil in check instead of the road he gave in with TLOU2 and onwards but that's not to mention how many OG devs left elsewell
to be honest, I just flat out disagree. And against your point that if you havent experienced it before you should just go play the game again, not everyone is willing to spend $70 on a game. I really hope newcomers get to experience this masterpiece, in any form.
I think it being a video game is a very important factor as to WHY it's so damn good, though. Holding the controller and experiencing the story through the characters eye's adds another element to the immersion. I don't think that emotion can translate to something that you are just purely watching and not interacting with.
@@Dylasophical No I definitely agree with you, fully. I am just personally not bothered by this show being nothing new, I just hope it is at least a step up from other adaptations
Oh I'm sure people who have never played the games will be blown away. IF they stick to the source material. It's so good, dude. And I despise the "infected/zombie" genre.
I agree, but this show generally isn’t made for the fans, it’s made to capture a new audience. At the very least they have to uphold the characters and world building to appease the fans. They will loose no one and grow the fan base.
I would argue that, since not everyone plays video games, those people should have the chance to experience the story as well, without playing the video game.
Just like R.E Film Series. Leon, Chris, Claire nor Jill are the main in the movie but Alice, one that didn't ever appeared in any game titles afaik. I believe this film will cheese the story like a whole chunk of story flattened and stretched but it may also show different angles of story based on the original. I hate the casting accuracy as per character appearance based in the game, but if they decided to go down that road well then they must be planning for a different delivery of story line. Different stories but same feels.
Other than the fact that non-gamers can enjoy the story through the show, there is also the idea of using original storylines they had but couldn´t fit into the game for the show. Druckman said so in an interview when the tv show was anounced. So I actually think the show is an amazing idea and the trailer looks more than promising.
The dumb idea is making a video complaining about how just because YOU know the story means people who don't play video games don't deserve to know it.
Make something new. NEW. Does every video game ever have to be repackaged for a new audience? It was developed as a playable game, for gamers. As I mentioned, the element of holding the controller and experiencing the story that way helps with the immersion.
WTF uploader dont u get it? When people have seen this tv show a lot of people gonna buy the game... People that have never played the game before... Its marketing in the most simplistic way...
While I understand where you’re coming from, Im still excited to see the show. I see it as an opportunity to experience it again in a different format with my non gamer family. Im also biased since I was an extra in the show and was on set for over 20 hours.
I feel like you should give it a chance, I see what you mean, it is a videogame movie. In a way this does seem like a silly idea. But this could be adapted differently and changed a whole lot. Maybe the characters are different, maybe the plot will be different or the stakes are different. The Boys adaptation from comics to TV is a good example. I understand what you mean but it looks promising in my opinion.
I have played the game many times and knowing the story doesn't make me now want to watch the show adaption. Just like any other good story adaption. It just looks great to me.
Great vid once again but in surprised because you're usually able to persuade me to agree with you by the end. I'll agree that most modern character driven games are like playable movies BUT this vid made me realize why they should be adopted. Not everyone plays video games. That's an obvious point but there are millions of people who miss out on phenomenal stories because they either don't like video games, don't have the means to play it don't have the time (like myself) to get to every game. For those who can't play a game for 20, or 30+ hours to take in the full narrative, they can watch this. I'm glad they're adapting it because I've tried to play The Last of Us in small chunks and this'll streamline it for me. At least it's a show. For years they've been threatening a Metal Gear Solid film. Now THAT can't be crammed into a 2hr film, it's damn near impossible. But maybe a 5 season show on HBO...I'll take it.
Bruh he has a point.. I'm anticipating the series, yes, but I Know it won't be as good as the game. Assuming they focused on something else in thesame Last of us world, it would be ok, like a deep story of the fireflies or the smugglers, yunno something that'll bring us soaked to the details of the world attached to a story that isn't Joel and Ellie... Joel and Ellie's story is already perfected and doesn't need a life action remake, we need something else.. The last of us is a huge world, hundreds of stories to be made out of, I feel like they should have picked another story
@@3lankfac32 well you're right... It's just that we gamers might not always feel right about it.. well that's our business, as long as y'all like it, then it's not for us. You're right
Then why call it The Last Of Us and have characters named Joel and Ellie?........Because they're still trying to get the fans of the game to be interested. They want it both ways.
I absolutely agree with this video even though we are in the minority bro. But fucking hell Ellie looks so different to the game, I can't enjoy the show based on my favourite game now
This was a perfect opportunity to make an original story, with a set of different characters, set in the same universe, but they chose a tell the same story of a game that was remastered nearly a decade ago and remade this year.
Some of yall are trying too hard. The show will be popular and well received. The vast majority of people do not play video games. It's time to get over them killing your fake dad.
No offense, but I think that you guys believe that everyone's familiar with the game. I wouldn't know about it unless I had friends that said I should watch the game movie. It was great, but I imagine good actors could bring other layers out. A good example is Iron Man & Deadpool; I thought their comics were lame, but RDJ & Ryan Reynolds changed my mind completely. But there are are also bad examples and I hope The Last of Us isn't going to be anothet one of those.
@@hedleylamarr1750 I know everyone is not familiar with the story ,but it’s frustrating for someone like me who is familiar with the story to see the developers and creators capitalize on the same story. I’m pretty sure the creators will add new aspects to an old story, but they could have made an original story that would still appeal to individuals who are not familiar with the franchise. It would have been fresh for all viewers.
I played this game.. and it gonna be hell of a ride for the people who haven’t experienced yet… aah yes someone is triggered because HALO failed sorry buddy but it ain’t Microsoft
Ironic... 4 out of 10 people don't like series, does that mean they should make a movie also? That's not an excuse, but you can read my comment to see my view on it
movies and shows based on video games are always guaranteed to fail. sonic live action movie is mediocre and besides there was already a 90's sonic tv show that already elevated that franchise, so i have to disagree but other that ur spot on and top of that there's already been 3 remasters of last of us 1 they're just milking this franchise at this point and the gameplay has always been clunky since its ps3 original release the story from TLOU 1 was good gameplay was dated garbage that still hasn't age well. i agree the game itself is already an interactive movie but the cast in this show are terribly miscasted. u can only retell the story soo many times b4 it becomes dull and boring bcuz of how uninspired it is.
Well I meant Sonic had never had a full fledged 3D adventure that looked realistic. I agree that the movies were average at best. But TLOU was already a fully fleshed out 3D experience. And I always really liked the game play. Clunky, but it did most things exceptionally well.
@@OutOfPocket-h9e first off: The Witcher changed characters from source material abunch of race swaps and the show is ok at best, uncharted failed at the box office as much as i love paul w.s. anderson's resident evil and made it a billion dollar franchise but the story differs too much from the source material, ironically so does its current games and outside from that 3 of the cg films they aren't any good alot of reviews are mixed i have them all in my blu ray collection and i'm mixed on it as well, not the best but not worst neither its subpar, the netfilx live action show is garbage and recently got cancelled after 1 season. RE Reboot is garbage and Season 1 of RE Infinite Darkness is very average from what I hear in RE Community. Cyberpunk: Edgerunners just came out recently y'all just hyping it up bcuz the game itself failed, i think that show is overrated bcuz everything is the best thing ever & and being called g.oa.t. to the point that i can't take anyone who says that seriously anymore. Castlevania show literally nobody talks about Mortal Kombat movies are all garbage except for mk '95 is the best but also hasn't age well Warcraft movie sucked and has mixed reviews Rampage was ok and i saw it again mixed reviews lol Carmen Sandiego?😂😂 really ? League of Legends tv show i mean it has fan base so its debatable. honorable mentions btw sonic movie is mediocre, mario bros movie is average but has a cult following, zelda tv show is infamous for being terrible. farcry movie sucks, need for speed movie is mediocre, halo tv series is terrible..... need i say more? LOL THE VIDEO GAME MOVIE/show curse is very real and like i said before movies and shows that's based on games are notorious for being terrible its well documented the same with games that's based on movies. so chill!
@@Oldschool1943 Yeah, you're right, it was difficult trying to look for a game adaptation that was actually really good. Arcane is actually the only good one, even if you're not a fan or don't even know League of Legends, you'll enjoy it.
They probably could have pulled it off if they had hired Sadie Sink as Ellie, but the Mormont kid from game of thrones has nothing in common with Ellie and it's really taking me out of the whole idea of the show. The Pedro Pascal as Joel casting I'm sure will be fine, but the heart of the story has always been Ellie, and if you mess up on her casting , you kinda mess up the whole show... Sorry for the actress, have nothing against her personally, but ellie is a small redhead with freckles and an attitude, she's just not a brow hair girl with no freckles , a british accent and a non-expressive face.
I am appalled at how little intelligence you have demonstrated. Ellie has always been brown haired, not a redhead. REGARDLESS, actors are never required to "match" the characters personality. That's why they're ACTORS. There was also most likely many auditions. This actress was chosen for her resemblance to the creators true vision of the character. Also, for how well she could dynamically act and change her emotions, behaviors and attitudes. She proved that in Game of Thrones. The most idiotic thing you said was that she's British. She obviously won't be British in the show, I don't possibly know how you can't understand that. Tom Holland is a brit in his 20's yet somehow he plays American teenage Spiderman because he's AN ACTOR.
The Last of Us is one of the most overrated games ever. There, I said it. It isn't bad by any stretch of the imagination, but I don't understand the hype around it. And, yes, it did feel more like an interactive movie instead of a game.
😐... the reason why its so praised but no one really acknowledges it, is that the narrative ties into the gameplay aspect itself... so as a player, you actually start to care which also plays into how Naughty Dog wanted to not give in the ludonarrative dissonance like they did with the Uncharted games... plus don't be one of those who say ''☝️🤓iTS lIkE a INteRaCtiVe mOvIe" - really because that goes to A LOT of games that have cutscenes even with something like GOW 4 only has a slight longer timed cutscenes than compared to GOW 3... games as a whole are way more complex than movies, books or any type of media
@@godzillazfriction I can buy that explanation. And I agree that games are now extremely complex. That said, though, at the end of the day I want a game to be a game. A game can have a great story (Mass Effect, Diablo, etc., ) and still be fun to play. I watched a good story play out with The Last of Us, but it wasn't a game. At least for me.
i respect ur opinion and all but u should really try watching it before making a video talking shit about it. the last of us is my favorite game of all time. i’ve played it so many times and have the platinum for the remaster, and the sequel so being able to see the story through live action with REAL people is a dream come true. i’m also glad that people who don’t have a playstation get to experience it. again i respect ur opinion i just disagree.
@aidenemerson670 so true actors with no range who did not care about the material after the show is done I bet Neil, Ashley etc will be like they sucked but we could not say it at the time
On the contrary and completely false. Obvious reason is because you exprienced something so "perfect" and now you are scared to see it touched and being made on different format. Now you come towards it with hate Which is required in order to protect and accomodate your childhood memory. It's required to keep your delusions grandeur despite of obvious reality which is just sad. In reality This guy is being victim of cognitive dissonance and disbeliefs because he can't even comprehend quarter of the procedure. It's actually hilarious to behold and sad in the same time. Even psychotic patients guard their delusions until the game is called off. The only thing is that unfortunately no one whistles the game over for him. He is free to live with his own delusions and stupidity rent free because it is in accordance with the general narrative.
It's required to keep his delusions grandeur despite of obvious reality which is just sad. This guy is being victim of cognitive dissonance and disbeliefs because he can't even comprehend quarter of the procedure. It's actually hilarious to behold and sad in the same time. Even psychotic patients guard their delusions until the game is called off. The only thing is that unfortunately no one whistles the game over for him. He is free to live with his own delusions and stupidity rent free because it is in accordance with the general narrative.
@@Dylasophical Obviously because you exprienced something so "perfect" and now you are scared to see it touched and being made on different format and you come towards it with hate. which is required in order to protect and accomodate your childhood memory because your exprience were so sentimental as a kid.
@@matthewsdicksons5110 The ignorance is palpable right now. I didn't play The Last Of Us until I was 20 or 21, so there are no fond childhood memories of this game. You clearly didn't listen to a single word I actually said in the video, because I explained why I think the story loses some of it's emotional impact and artistic integrity when it converts from a game into a tv show. The element of PLAYING THE GAME was my main issue, and it's purely the concept that I disagree with. Ya know what I DID play as a kid? Sonic......You know what movie I DIDN'T have a problem with? Sonic. Because the movie had a dimension to add to the story, where I don't think this one does. Please stop framing me as a man baby that doesn't want any of my precious properties touched. There was no "hate" in me when making this video, just profound disappointment.
Since Joel is cast by pedro Pascal... Be prepared to be called an -ist and -phobe, btw I saw a leaked scene about joel and ellie that more or less was like. Ellie: I have suffered Joel: You don't know suffering And another one about Joel discussing his pain That was so unnecesary and kind of cringy. People like Joel who had passed something so traumatic they don't talk about it, because they don't want to remember it (of course talking to someone about it can be good but in the scene he was talking to a fucking rando) also the time and place is important because you are just casually gonna talk about it without some sort of personal build up or bringed up naturally in a conversation? This show looks to me as a mediocre, lazy adaptation for a quick buck
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The only thing dumb is someone making a video moaning before a show is released.
Sure!
@@Dylasophical lol chabuddy has a point, that guy playing joel is a nice actor and i would love to watch the last of us as a series , other than that red dead redemption would be a nice movie and god of war too
@@2xmajnubhai523 Well I can tell he didn't even watch the video and he was just responding to the thumbnail, lol. I have reasons, and I don't just gobble up every TV show and movie that comes out. I have real issues with the integrity of certain ideas.
Bruh he has a point.. I'm anticipating the series, yes, but I Know it won't be as good as the game. Assuming they focused on something else in thesame Last of us world, it would be ok, like a deep story of the fireflies or the smugglers, yunno something that'll bring us soaked to the details of the world attached to a story that isn't Joel and Ellie... Joel and Ellie's story is already perfected and doesn't need a life action remake, we need something else.. The last of us is a huge world, hundreds of stories to be made out of, I feel like they should have picked another story
Not every one plays video games , the story should get more exposure.
Make something new.
If they made something new, none gamers wouldn’t be exposed to the story
For me this series is interesting because not everyone have a ps4 or a ps5 to play this game. I talked about the last of us game to a lot of people, saying that the story is amazing, but many of them don't even like to play video games.
With this series, the story of the last of us will be accessible for everyone, and I am exited by that, those characters are so great, this story is so moving, she deserves to be known by as many people as possible
We just gonna pretend the guy making this didn't make Chernobyl lmfao. This show is gonna be special.
I don't care who's making it. The concept is lazy.
@@Dylasophical Adapting a story that is essentially timeless if you think about it isn't lazy. Another example of that All Quiet in the Western Front. Different genres sure but they get adapted a lot for a reason. Granted this is the first TLOU adaptation but you'll see more of them down the line.
@@brycebirkinbine4119 Adapting it in a visual medium after it was already perfect in a visual medium is lazy to me. Especially since there have already been 2 remasters in the past 9 years. It's different when updating a story from 1950 to 2020, where technology is completely different. But this game came out in 2013, so there's nothing to adapt in my head.
@@Dylasophical Video Games is a form of entertainment that hasn't gained access to everybody yet. Having an adaptation of an excellent story for non gamers to see is a good idea. While I agree doing adaptations consistently is lazy as hell but you get the right people involved to make it right I don't see how it is lazy. Especially since this guy made probably one of if not the greatest miniseries of all time...
Now Uncharted was lazy as hell
Meanwhile Hollywood copying entire stories from books, games, comics plus going further to make cheesy remakes. That’s your defence? As long as it works really well and engages the audience, any content works man. Even if it is a lazy remake of whatever you wanna say. If after all that it’s a hit among the audience, then HBO and its creators have done the job well.
Plus, not everyone has a console or a PC but everyone does want to get involved with stories - Good stories and that’s the part what they are trying to achieve. Its not only about us gamers there but trying to capture a new audience base as well if they can. Whether it works or not is a different thing, but if it’s done well then the new audience base which does not game will be very happy regardless.
The show hasn't even come out and y'all judging it already. Yes it will be a direct replication of the game's story BUT it doesn't just end there, they'll also expand and explore stories that have been mentioned in game. Like Ellie's mom, Anna, idk how accurate this is but she'll apparently be played by Ashley Johnson as it is confirmed that Troy and Ashley will be in the show, obviously not as Joel and Ellie but other interesting characters.
Yeah, but not everybody plays video games. I don't, but I've watched the Last of Is game play movie on TH-cam. I thought it was great, but I have to admit that there's a disconnect because I still have a problem completely relating to CGI characters. I wish I didn't have that problem, but it's true.
To be fair, I love the last of us and it’s a story I really want to share with my mum. But she can’t play video games. So I’m grateful she’ll get to experience the story in some form
Find a full playthrough, no commentary on here and you and your mother can sit down and watch it. lol
@@1nerdylegokid yeah as if I didn’t try that. She’s not a fan of animation, prefers to see real people, and it was hard to get her interest given that the first few hours of the last of us wouldn’t be that fun to watch given it’s a tutorial section. Not to mention the fact that gameplay was either skipped over, had fades because the player clearly died at some point in the next minute, or it was taking way too long.
Yeah that's fair!
@@Dylasophical your points are valid though. Honestly if the trailer didn’t look good, I’d still be in the “why is this even being made” camp. I’m just excited for my mum to watch it
@@Dylasophical bro my dad literally loves zombie movies/shows im so excited to finally show him this masterpiece :D
As a gamer till this very day I’ve never played the last of us.
You really should. Its one of the best games ever made. No over hype.
Yeah I agree with Glyndor. The hype is worth it. It is a masterful experience in my opinion, and I don't even like the "infected/zombie" genre.
You give valid arguments from the perspective of a gamer and a fan of TLOU. However, you're totally disregarding the fact that not everyone has played the games, and not everyone will. TLOU sold around 20 millions copies all in all; as an example, Game of Thrones, by the end of its run, had a viewership of almost 50 million people. Using that same example, I read the books before the show released, and I can tell you that 9/10 people I spoke to had never even heard of A Song of Ice and Fire before the show came out, and afterward it became a cult phenomenon.
There's a large group of people that have not played the games and maybe never will, because they're non-gamers (they exist lol). So while I agree that as a fan of the games I'm not entirely sold on it, I understand that there are non-gamers out there who have never experienced the story and will get an opportunity to do so with the show.
This is slightly me playing devil's advocate, because trust me, I know most video game adaptations are bad and this could easily end up being another one of them. But as someone who hasn't played The Last of Us and hasn't touched a game controller in almost two years (my sister bought me Red Dead 2 for Christmas 2020 and I still haven't played it), I'm kinda seeing this the same way I'd think of a book being adapted to the screen. It may not work for fans of the game, but for someone like me I'm much more likely to watch the show than to play the game at this point, so it's a way for me to experience this story. In fact, watching the show (good or bad) might even motivate me to play the game. If the show is good I might play the game too experience the characters in a more emersive way. If the show is bad I might play the game to experience the superior version of the story.
So your take is completely valid: this is likely a case of the studio just making a show to cash in on name recognition and nostalgia. But for me, who isn't much of a gamer anymore, it's a way for me to experience The Last of Us's story. Kinda like picking an audiobook over reading a physical copy. That's how I'm approaching it anyway.
Why do they make books into movies. Books are perfect, so what is the point of making a book into a movie. All the best books have been made into a movie, some have been great, some have been horrible, but they will continue to make books into movies. But why, well it comes down to money. Television and movies are vast medium that reaches way more people. Someone believed that the Last of US can be shared with a vast audience that will create someone more money. Are the games as good as you can get? Yes. Will the TV show be just as good, we can all hope. But watching them on a big screen with should be great. It might also help open the video game up to more people. Its a great story that should be shared and thankfully HBO is sharing it while trying to make money.
But books are different because it's not a visual medium. There aren't already established camera shots and iconic voice performances. You make up the people's voices and faces in your head, so there IS something different to visualize when they bring that to life. To see a character like Gandolf realized in live action is completely different in my opinion. But I get what you mean.
I think it's pretty selfish and naïve of you to only be thinking about the people who have PLAYED the game themselves. The whole intent from Neil Druckman was to tell this story through another form of media which is more contained and digestible for people who cannot play the game. Mostly 30+ adults or non gamers. Alternatively, it does add a new layer of realism and emotion to the story for previous players of the games with real life footage. New A list level acting (not just voice), cinematography, amazing writers, producers, set design, prosthetics, makeup, sfx. With HBO, Craig Mazin, and Druckman behind this along with everything I mentioned before, there is NO REAL reason to complain about this retelling. In no way will it be bad and in no way will it affect the original game / story. It seems you have failed to understand the intent of this show and the blatantly obvious benefits to another version and have chosen to criticize and negatively detest this show for views and attention on your TH-cam channel.
Side note: how did you manage to say Pedro and Bella won't be "OUR" Joel and Ellie when "OUR" versions are computer generated mocaps with great voice actors. This retelling could ultimately birth the best versions of Joel and Ellie we ever see THAT ARE ACTUALLY HUMAN. Games graduated over the years through technology into Story based playable Movies and Shows. Games took what worked from that artform and added interactivity. If it anything this story deserves to thrive and blossom in the artform the game is striving to emulate.
A character is a name and a story. The person playing them and how they look is not the main focus. Their main job is to make you feel like they really are that character. I have no doubt both will do that perfectly, so objectively they WILL be Joel and Ellie. Just as much, if not more, than the game versions.
No, I completely understand the intent of the show. Neil Druckman wants to live off of the same thing for a decade without making anything new because it's the easier than writing something original. Remaster, sequel, remaster, tv show.........MAKE SOMETHING NEW. And I'm tired of the "Not everyone is a gamer" argument. Not everyone watches TLC either. Should they make My 600 Pound Life into a video game so that more people can experience it? Sometimes certain experiences are made to be consumed in a certain way.
This will be like game of thrones. I definitely didn’t read the GOT books but I definitely watched the show. New fans will be able to experience the world of the last of us without playing the game. I don’t see the issue with adapting this into a show. This and metal gear to me is a no brainer.
This isnt ridiculous...the show is for non gamers to enjoy not you
Bud, adaptations in any genre is far from lazy. Books to movies, movies to tv shows, biographies to movies etc… it’s simply making a particular story in whatever medium accessible to a wide audience. An example, 2001 A Space Odyssey; originally a novel than adapted to a film. More people remember the movie than the film. You are certainly entitled to your opinion but understand that taking an incredible story from this game and making it accessible to a more broad and wider audience could have the potential to be something truly special.
More people remember the movie than the novel, that’s what I mean to say
I don't think this story is as "accessible" as people think. Controlling the characters yourself added another dimension to the characters, and a lot of the mass audience is just going to compare it to The Walking Dead. Not everything is made for everybody. Being a video game was an important part of why the story worked so well. I mean, lots of people don't watch TLC, so should they make My 600 Pound Life into a video game so more gamers can experience it?
Maybe it’s for people who don’t play video games or can’t afford a console. I mean you said it yourself, it’s a well written, emotional story and it’s a damn shame that people miss out on it
Watching a play through or a “movie” that’s just the cinnematics isn’t the same yk
Just like watching a tv show about it isn't the same......
Some people just consume different media such as tv shows instead of videogames and I guess they want to bring this amazing story to that audience (also, to make money)
if Bruce Straley was still around, he wouldve kept Neil in check instead of the road he gave in with TLOU2 and onwards but that's not to mention how many OG devs left elsewell
2:39 you really sound like a person who doesnt play games for the story more than once...😂😮😢
to be honest, I just flat out disagree. And against your point that if you havent experienced it before you should just go play the game again, not everyone is willing to spend $70 on a game. I really hope newcomers get to experience this masterpiece, in any form.
I think it being a video game is a very important factor as to WHY it's so damn good, though. Holding the controller and experiencing the story through the characters eye's adds another element to the immersion. I don't think that emotion can translate to something that you are just purely watching and not interacting with.
@@Dylasophical No I definitely agree with you, fully. I am just personally not bothered by this show being nothing new, I just hope it is at least a step up from other adaptations
Never played the games so I’ll be going into this relatively fresh , maybe it will inspire me to play both games though
Oh I'm sure people who have never played the games will be blown away. IF they stick to the source material. It's so good, dude. And I despise the "infected/zombie" genre.
@@Dylasophical so you haven’t played the game
I agree, but this show generally isn’t made for the fans, it’s made to capture a new audience. At the very least they have to uphold the characters and world building to appease the fans. They will loose no one and grow the fan base.
I think to each there own I'll watch if they make a TV show maybe it could leave to new things like another game
I would argue that, since not everyone plays video games, those people should have the chance to experience the story as well, without playing the video game.
Literally the point of this show is to target none gamers that’s why they choose to take this IP and convert into a show .
Just like R.E Film Series. Leon, Chris, Claire nor Jill are the main in the movie but Alice, one that didn't ever appeared in any game titles afaik. I believe this film will cheese the story like a whole chunk of story flattened and stretched but it may also show different angles of story based on the original. I hate the casting accuracy as per character appearance based in the game, but if they decided to go down that road well then they must be planning for a different delivery of story line. Different stories but same feels.
Why is Ellie keeping all the lore inside her forehead
lol she look like megamind no offense to the actress but she looks far from ellie in the games
Other than the fact that non-gamers can enjoy the story through the show, there is also the idea of using original storylines they had but couldn´t fit into the game for the show. Druckman said so in an interview when the tv show was anounced. So I actually think the show is an amazing idea and the trailer looks more than promising.
The dumb idea is making a video complaining about how just because YOU know the story means people who don't play video games don't deserve to know it.
Make something new. NEW. Does every video game ever have to be repackaged for a new audience? It was developed as a playable game, for gamers. As I mentioned, the element of holding the controller and experiencing the story that way helps with the immersion.
WTF uploader dont u get it? When people have seen this tv show a lot of people gonna buy the game... People that have never played the game before... Its marketing in the most simplistic way...
Yes, it's cheap and lazy marketing.
Thank you! I was beginning to think I was the only one who had this opinion. Other videos just seem to be praising this.
Looks like we're in the minority LOL
While I understand where you’re coming from, Im still excited to see the show. I see it as an opportunity to experience it again in a different format with my non gamer family. Im also biased since I was an extra in the show and was on set for over 20 hours.
I feel like you should give it a chance, I see what you mean, it is a videogame movie. In a way this does seem like a silly idea. But this could be adapted differently and changed a whole lot. Maybe the characters are different, maybe the plot will be different or the stakes are different. The Boys adaptation from comics to TV is a good example. I understand what you mean but it looks promising in my opinion.
I have played the game many times and knowing the story doesn't make me now want to watch the show adaption. Just like any other good story adaption. It just looks great to me.
Nobody forcing you to watch it
Absolutely, just like no one forced you to watch this video :)
@@Dylasophical yes sir absolutely your very wise
Great vid once again but in surprised because you're usually able to persuade me to agree with you by the end. I'll agree that most modern character driven games are like playable movies BUT this vid made me realize why they should be adopted.
Not everyone plays video games. That's an obvious point but there are millions of people who miss out on phenomenal stories because they either don't like video games, don't have the means to play it don't have the time (like myself) to get to every game. For those who can't play a game for 20, or 30+ hours to take in the full narrative, they can watch this. I'm glad they're adapting it because I've tried to play The Last of Us in small chunks and this'll streamline it for me.
At least it's a show. For years they've been threatening a Metal Gear Solid film. Now THAT can't be crammed into a 2hr film, it's damn near impossible. But maybe a 5 season show on HBO...I'll take it.
Yeah I guess I just didn't think about the average person who doesn't play video games. I MUST convince you in my next video!!!! Hahahaha
@@Dylasophical I know you'll be back in a persuasion streak once again lol. Looking forward to your POV for the next one.
Bruh he has a point.. I'm anticipating the series, yes, but I Know it won't be as good as the game. Assuming they focused on something else in thesame Last of us world, it would be ok, like a deep story of the fireflies or the smugglers, yunno something that'll bring us soaked to the details of the world attached to a story that isn't Joel and Ellie... Joel and Ellie's story is already perfected and doesn't need a life action remake, we need something else.. The last of us is a huge world, hundreds of stories to be made out of, I feel like they should have picked another story
This isn’t for people who play the game this is for new people that aren’t gamers. How is this so hard to understand
@@3lankfac32 well you're right... It's just that we gamers might not always feel right about it.. well that's our business, as long as y'all like it, then it's not for us. You're right
Then why call it The Last Of Us and have characters named Joel and Ellie?........Because they're still trying to get the fans of the game to be interested. They want it both ways.
@@Dylasophical this!!!
I absolutely agree with this video even though we are in the minority bro. But fucking hell Ellie looks so different to the game, I can't enjoy the show based on my favourite game now
But is it as DUMB as participating in a chat instead of logging on and having a verbal conversation?
#UNSUBSCRIBED
Why yes, yes it is.
This was a perfect opportunity to make an original story, with a set of different characters, set in the same universe, but they chose a tell the same story of a game that was remastered nearly a decade ago and remade this year.
Some of yall are trying too hard. The show will be popular and well received. The vast majority of people do not play video games. It's time to get over them killing your fake dad.
No offense, but I think that you guys believe that everyone's familiar with the game. I wouldn't know about it unless I had friends that said I should watch the game movie. It was great, but I imagine good actors could bring other layers out. A good example is Iron Man & Deadpool; I thought their comics were lame, but RDJ & Ryan Reynolds changed my mind completely. But there are are also bad examples and I hope The Last of Us isn't going to be anothet one of those.
@@hedleylamarr1750 I know everyone is not familiar with the story ,but it’s frustrating for someone like me who is familiar with the story to see the developers and creators capitalize on the same story. I’m pretty sure the creators will add new aspects to an old story, but they could have made an original story that would still appeal to individuals who are not familiar with the franchise. It would have been fresh for all viewers.
@@MasterPokusa I have a feeling you'll be hate watching it
@@glt918 No. I never said that I hated the show.
I played this game.. and it gonna be hell of a ride for the people who haven’t experienced yet… aah yes someone is triggered because HALO failed sorry buddy but it ain’t Microsoft
Huh? I didn't even watch the Halo show.
Ok man
Imo Saide Sink would’ve fitted Ellie’s role better
Just don’t watch it? Like no matter what people do or say they gonna make this show 😂😂
Absolutely. But I'm still going to give my opinion on my TH-cam channel lol
@@Dylasophical of course
Your entitled to your own opinion, i wasn’t trying to demean you at all
1:04 my ex girlfriends nickname in school
8 out of 10 people are not gamers and 8 out of 10 gamers never played The Last Of Us
This video is useless
Wrong.. check the statistics again
Ironic... 4 out of 10 people don't like series, does that mean they should make a movie also? That's not an excuse, but you can read my comment to see my view on it
Lots of people don't watch TLC either. Should they make My 600 Pound Life into a video game?
movies and shows based on video games are always guaranteed to fail. sonic live action movie is mediocre and besides there was already a 90's sonic tv show that already elevated that franchise, so i have to disagree but other that ur spot on and top of that there's already been 3 remasters of last of us 1 they're just milking this franchise at this point and the gameplay has always been clunky since its ps3 original release the story from TLOU 1 was good gameplay was dated garbage that still hasn't age well. i agree the game itself is already an interactive movie but the cast in this show are terribly miscasted. u can only retell the story soo many times b4 it becomes dull and boring bcuz of how uninspired it is.
Well I meant Sonic had never had a full fledged 3D adventure that looked realistic. I agree that the movies were average at best. But TLOU was already a fully fleshed out 3D experience. And I always really liked the game play. Clunky, but it did most things exceptionally well.
Guaranteed to fail? Ummm...
Arcane?
The Witcher?
Carmen Sandiego?
Uncharted?
Resident Evil?
Castlevania?
Mortal Kombat?
Warcraft?
Rampage?
Cyberpunk: Edgerunners?
@@OutOfPocket-h9e first off: The Witcher changed characters from source material abunch of race swaps and the show is ok at best,
uncharted failed at the box office
as much as i love paul w.s. anderson's resident evil and made it a billion dollar franchise but the story differs too much from the source material, ironically so does its current games and outside from that 3 of the cg films they aren't any good alot of reviews are mixed i have them all in my blu ray collection and i'm mixed on it as well, not the best but not worst neither its subpar, the netfilx live action show is garbage and recently got cancelled after 1 season. RE Reboot is garbage and
Season 1 of RE Infinite Darkness is very average from what I hear in RE Community.
Cyberpunk: Edgerunners just came out recently y'all just hyping it up bcuz the game itself failed, i think that show is overrated bcuz everything is the best thing ever & and being called g.oa.t. to the point that i can't take anyone who says that seriously anymore.
Castlevania show literally nobody talks about
Mortal Kombat movies are all garbage except for mk '95 is the best but also hasn't age well
Warcraft movie sucked and has mixed reviews
Rampage was ok and i saw it again mixed reviews
lol Carmen Sandiego?😂😂 really ?
League of Legends tv show i mean it has fan base so its debatable.
honorable mentions
btw sonic movie is mediocre, mario bros movie is average but has a cult following, zelda tv show is infamous for being terrible. farcry movie sucks, need for speed movie is mediocre, halo tv series is terrible.....
need i say more? LOL
THE VIDEO GAME MOVIE/show curse is very real and like i said before movies and shows that's based on games are notorious for being terrible its well documented the same with games that's based on movies.
so chill!
@@Dylasophical true.
@@Oldschool1943 Yeah, you're right, it was difficult trying to look for a game adaptation that was actually really good. Arcane is actually the only good one, even if you're not a fan or don't even know League of Legends, you'll enjoy it.
They probably could have pulled it off if they had hired Sadie Sink as Ellie, but the Mormont kid from game of thrones has nothing in common with Ellie and it's really taking me out of the whole idea of the show. The Pedro Pascal as Joel casting I'm sure will be fine, but the heart of the story has always been Ellie, and if you mess up on her casting , you kinda mess up the whole show... Sorry for the actress, have nothing against her personally, but ellie is a small redhead with freckles and an attitude, she's just not a brow hair girl with no freckles , a british accent and a non-expressive face.
I am appalled at how little intelligence you have demonstrated. Ellie has always been brown haired, not a redhead. REGARDLESS, actors are never required to "match" the characters personality. That's why they're ACTORS. There was also most likely many auditions. This actress was chosen for her resemblance to the creators true vision of the character. Also, for how well she could dynamically act and change her emotions, behaviors and attitudes. She proved that in Game of Thrones. The most idiotic thing you said was that she's British. She obviously won't be British in the show, I don't possibly know how you can't understand that. Tom Holland is a brit in his 20's yet somehow he plays American teenage Spiderman because he's AN ACTOR.
Sadie sink is not a kid anymore… she isn’t suitable
This is definitely not gonna go well.
The video or the show? Because from what I see, the show was getting praise
The Last of Us is one of the most overrated games ever. There, I said it. It isn't bad by any stretch of the imagination, but I don't understand the hype around it. And, yes, it did feel more like an interactive movie instead of a game.
😐... the reason why its so praised but no one really acknowledges it, is that the narrative ties into the gameplay aspect itself... so as a player, you actually start to care which also plays into how Naughty Dog wanted to not give in the ludonarrative dissonance like they did with the Uncharted games... plus don't be one of those who say ''☝️🤓iTS lIkE a INteRaCtiVe mOvIe" - really because that goes to A LOT of games that have cutscenes even with something like GOW 4 only has a slight longer timed cutscenes than compared to GOW 3... games as a whole are way more complex than movies, books or any type of media
@@godzillazfriction I can buy that explanation. And I agree that games are now extremely complex. That said, though, at the end of the day I want a game to be a game. A game can have a great story (Mass Effect, Diablo, etc., ) and still be fun to play. I watched a good story play out with The Last of Us, but it wasn't a game. At least for me.
L take
i respect ur opinion and all but u should really try watching it before making a video talking shit about it. the last of us is my favorite game of all time. i’ve played it so many times and have the platinum for the remaster, and the sequel so being able to see the story through live action with REAL people is a dream come true. i’m also glad that people who don’t have a playstation get to experience it. again i respect ur opinion i just disagree.
That's fair!
True awful casting
That statement still true to you?
@aidenemerson670 so true actors with no range who did not care about the material after the show is done I bet Neil, Ashley etc will be like they sucked but we could not say it at the time
The actors in my eyes is bad choice
At least Pedro Pascal kinda looks like Joel unlike Tom Holland as Nathan Drake.
@@LuisSanchez-by7mh After watching some of Moon Knight's fight scenes. Oscar Isaac should have played Nathan Drake for the movie.
Aged like.milk huh
@@thenegativoneify why I still stand by what I said
On the contrary and completely false. Obvious reason is because you exprienced something so "perfect" and now you are scared to see it touched and being made on different format. Now you come towards it with hate Which is required in order to protect and accomodate your childhood memory. It's required to keep your delusions grandeur despite of obvious reality which is just sad. In reality This guy is being victim of cognitive dissonance and disbeliefs because he can't even comprehend quarter of the procedure. It's actually hilarious to behold and sad in the same time. Even psychotic patients guard their delusions until the game is called off. The only thing is that unfortunately no one whistles the game over for him. He is free to live with his own delusions and stupidity rent free because it is in accordance with the general narrative.
Almost everyone disagree in the comments and you still think you did something
I don't think I did anything lol
It's required to keep his delusions grandeur despite of obvious reality which is just sad. This guy is being victim of cognitive dissonance and disbeliefs because he can't even comprehend quarter of the procedure. It's actually hilarious to behold and sad in the same time. Even psychotic patients guard their delusions until the game is called off. The only thing is that unfortunately no one whistles the game over for him. He is free to live with his own delusions and stupidity rent free because it is in accordance with the general narrative.
@@matthewsdicksons5110 Because I think the idea of a tv show is dumb and lazy? Lol okay.
@@Dylasophical Obviously because you exprienced something so "perfect" and now you are scared to see it touched and being made on different format and you come towards it with hate. which is required in order to protect and accomodate your childhood memory because your exprience were so sentimental as a kid.
@@matthewsdicksons5110 The ignorance is palpable right now. I didn't play The Last Of Us until I was 20 or 21, so there are no fond childhood memories of this game. You clearly didn't listen to a single word I actually said in the video, because I explained why I think the story loses some of it's emotional impact and artistic integrity when it converts from a game into a tv show. The element of PLAYING THE GAME was my main issue, and it's purely the concept that I disagree with. Ya know what I DID play as a kid? Sonic......You know what movie I DIDN'T have a problem with? Sonic. Because the movie had a dimension to add to the story, where I don't think this one does. Please stop framing me as a man baby that doesn't want any of my precious properties touched. There was no "hate" in me when making this video, just profound disappointment.
Since Joel is cast by pedro Pascal... Be prepared to be called an -ist and -phobe, btw I saw a leaked scene about joel and ellie that more or less was like.
Ellie: I have suffered
Joel: You don't know suffering
And another one about Joel discussing his pain
That was so unnecesary and kind of cringy. People like Joel who had passed something so traumatic they don't talk about it, because they don't want to remember it (of course talking to someone about it can be good but in the scene he was talking to a fucking rando) also the time and place is important because you are just casually gonna talk about it without some sort of personal build up or bringed up naturally in a conversation? This show looks to me as a mediocre, lazy adaptation for a quick buck
That like about joes suffering is literally from the game
it wasnt a rando it was Ellie, get your eyes checked.
@@lewisbaldwin9683 no Joel never talked about her daughter in game
@@shadowstrike234 you ger your eyes checked in the second convo he was talking to a guy not ellie
@@arieloliver3219 he literally does in the end of the game dumbass
The only way they'll fuck it up if they do the same shit in the 2nd game
First
Last.
........Of Us.
Then don't watch it 😒
Mmmhhmmmm.
@@Dylasophical make my comment famous bro lol
to which city did your migrant bus take you?
Chicago?
NYC?
Well it shouldbe targeted towards people who either are not gamers or have not played the game. It gives them a chance to experience the story.