SECRET INVASION Plot Holes EXPLAINED - Fury's Real Plan and Carol's Powers Explained!

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    Secret Invasion was a hit and mostly miss series that left marvel fans with a lot of unanswered questions. How did Gi'iah get Carol's Powers? What was Fury's real plan? Why did any of this happen? Well, we've got answers for you that ill change how you think of the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
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    I’m going to explain the plot holes in the MCU’s secret invasion. Sure the show didn’t turn out as well as we thought-as we’ve covered extensively here on the channel.NBut the worst MCU show is still better than most shows-and this series is still connected to the greater MCU.
    So we took your questions on our community page and my twitter, and I am going to explain the unexplainable and answer all the plot holes in the MCU’s secret Invasion. We got questions about Rhodey, Hydra, Gravik-and how the hell Giah was able to get Carol’s powers. And we’re going to answer all of your questions right now.
    Doug: Good luck.
    We got this. We got a lot of questions about skrull anatomy, such as: “In Captain Marvel, Carol says Skrulls can replicate an organism down to their DNA, which is why taking a blood sample isn’t an effective way to determine if someone is a skrull. However, this clearly doesn’t hold up in Secret Invasion, since as soon as the biological material leaves the main body of the skrull (like splattered blood or a severed finger) it immediate ly reverts to skrull form, so a blood test absolutely would have worked since the blood would revert to skrull blood as soon as it left the skrull.”
    G;ad you asked, and we got this one a lot. Remember, we also saw in Captain marvel that when skrulls die, their bodies revert to their skrull form. And this stays consistent in secret invasion. When Talos is shoot, he involuntarily reverts back to his original form as he’s dying. And the fingers that Falsworth severed were dead tissue. But notice that it is still covered with the original red blood form when she was shivering it. But there’s purple blood at the base.
    This is because the red blood was spilled with the finger attached-when it was alive-and the purple blood came out of the finger after it was severed-or dead. And when Sonya shoots this man [clip]. The blood splatter is purple, because the skrull was killed instantly. Hence, purple blood.
    Marl 27 asks, “When the real Rhodey and others are rescued, why do they seem unaffected walking in the irradiated area?”
    And we see the humans beginning to leave the area, but before there would have been time for the radiation to take effect.
    Doug: That’s a good explanation, thank you very much.
    You’re welcome, high five. [high five]. And by the way everyone, if you like what we do here, and you want to support our channel, check out our brand new merch store, where we are selling Doug as captain america parody tee shirts, mugs and stickers. The link is below, and you can click our merch shelf under the video. This is the best way you can directly support our channel and we appreciate it so very much.
    Doug: And they don;t pay me anything.
    Shut up doug. Awes Tex asks, “When Fury nearly blew Gravik’s head off, he just stood there like it didn’t affect him while his entire skull healed back. But in the finale it seemed like it really hurt everyone to get punched or hit with metal beams.”
    Well first of all, maybe the gunshot did hurt Gravity but he was just thinking, “don;t show it, this will look so badass if you just don’t show it.” But as for the finale fight, it’s two super skrulls hitting each other with this stuff. Gia gets the crap kicked out of her at first, and really feels every hit-because she’s being hit with the strength of a Hulk. I would rather get shot than take a shot from the Hulk. Also in the fight, Gravik shrugs off a stab wound to the chest pretty easily.
    It;s actually pretty clever how Giah stabs him in the middle of the chest, because that’s one area of his body that didn;t transform into impervious skin.
    Tatted Up Luv asos, “The skrull home-base was located in an extremely irradiated environment and they had human prisoners there with no protection. Some of them for very extended periods of time. The long term prisoners should look like melting flesh monsters with glow in the dark nite-lite bones.”
    here Emilia Clarke grows an ice arm, and she looks at it, vaguely surprised.

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  • @ScreenCrush
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    • @SpammytheHedgehog
      @SpammytheHedgehog ปีที่แล้ว

      Even Barbie did better than Secret Invasion.

    • @michaeldelemos1789
      @michaeldelemos1789 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bro… this!

    • @YourBeingParanoid
      @YourBeingParanoid ปีที่แล้ว

      Iodine tablets will block the absorption of radioactive iodine by the thyroid gland and reduce the risk of you contracting cancer of the thyroid gland. Iodine tablets only provide protection against radioactive iodine and not against other radioactive substances.

    • @YourBeingParanoid
      @YourBeingParanoid ปีที่แล้ว

      It entirely possible that we're watching bestiality - Fury is married to a different animal species, alien or not. At least a dolphin is slightly DNA related but its still gross it we saw a guy sucking the face off one on Disney TV

    • @dragonknight6212
      @dragonknight6212 ปีที่แล้ว

      I kind of don't like the idea that a machine using superhero DNA can just give anyone the abilities of any hero. As presented with no limit (how many skills and how many skills get) just using a machine and no other factors? And why didn't other scrolls come up with this, after all, Earth isn't the only planet with people with special abilities that are worth "absorbing"? So are there other "super scrolls" out there, as if only one has the idea to try that if your species has those abilities.

  • @BaithNa
    @BaithNa ปีที่แล้ว +153

    There's a difference between "not having a happy ending" and having an ending that resolves nothing, leaves everyone in a worse situation and raises 10x more questions than the show ever raised.

    • @iamlenda
      @iamlenda ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Yep. And to me the crazy thing is that ONLY when Ritson names any alien an enemy is when THE SECRET INVASION REALLY BEGINS. Those flash of people killing anyone who they supposed ( wanted ?) to be a Skrull should be the exact state of paranoia that led main narrative point of the show. Tension of having to guess or defend yourself from a shapeshifiting alien that was the main plot point of the comics was just poorly done montage at the end of the series . Ridicullous.

    • @masseiy
      @masseiy ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@iamlendamaybe it was a set up for season 2?

    • @iamkoopa22
      @iamkoopa22 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@masseiyseason 2!? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @keithwoodcrest
    @keithwoodcrest ปีที่แล้ว +92

    In the words of Fury, "Disney can't keep depending on these TH-cam critics and theorists to come in and save our asses by filling the gaps and explaining away all the plotholes that they're too lazy to fill in and explain themselves"

    • @Onslaught-rob13
      @Onslaught-rob13 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂😂😂

    • @DikaWolf
      @DikaWolf ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's called show not tell. Sometimes people miss things that others have to point out, that's normal for any movie, but its better than handholding the viewers, as that treats them like idiots. Still some will still bitch about handholding until there is no handholding then they complain that it's a bad script because of the lack of handholding. 🙄

    • @turnerjazz7872
      @turnerjazz7872 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@DikaWolf "it's called show not tell" except this show does neither. Yes, there are always going to be dense people who miss obvious things, but this show was a mess. It failed to really think through the basic plot of the show.

    • @DikaWolf
      @DikaWolf ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@turnerjazz7872 What doesn't it show? That Super Skrulls can only do one or two powers at a time? They show that as you never see them do any more than that. That alien tech = magic pretty much explains most other things. That's obvious too. Did you really need technobabble exposition to explain that?

    • @iamkoopa22
      @iamkoopa22 ปีที่แล้ว

      😊

  • @enoyna1001
    @enoyna1001 ปีที่แล้ว +487

    Ryan, you're doing more work for the MCU than the MCU ever bothered to do for itself!

    • @LurkingLeviathan
      @LurkingLeviathan ปีที่แล้ว +18

      They really should be watching at least this channel and a few others. Theyd see a lot of the criticisms we have and understand it's not cheap shows we hate its bad writing.

    • @IsiahBradley
      @IsiahBradley ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Someone please show this with Iman Vellani :)

    • @taylormadealpha
      @taylormadealpha ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ever? Lol

    • @Okamiiee
      @Okamiiee ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Seriously.. I bet they didn’t even the answers and would use Ryan’s

    • @brandon181
      @brandon181 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Writing full backstories and explanations lol

  • @ericjome7284
    @ericjome7284 ปีที่แล้ว +115

    It's entirely possible that superpowers given by the Skrull machine simply do not last and fade with time.

    • @anthonyrichmond7897
      @anthonyrichmond7897 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It could explain why they had to constantly switch powers

    • @YourBeingParanoid
      @YourBeingParanoid ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It entirely possible that we're watching bestiality - Fury is married to a different animal species, alien or not. At least a dolphin is slightly DNA related but its still gross it we saw a guy sucking the face off one on Disney TV

    • @tywayne3
      @tywayne3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@YourBeingParanoidyeah, but then you have to include Peter Quill in that category.

    • @mattyt1961
      @mattyt1961 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@BuckyBarnesATLWe see him with them for days on end, that doesn't mean he kept them, he might have had to recharge them and they just didn't show it (like so much).

    • @sylviatamieanan4088
      @sylviatamieanan4088 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That would be a lazy solution and nevertheless so smart.

  • @MADMO215
    @MADMO215 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Smh So basically any plot hole can be explained with Ryan’s own head cannon.

  • @zackhostetler4889
    @zackhostetler4889 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I get what Ryan is saying on the first point but it doesn’t make sense. Cells aren’t dead the moment they disconnect from the central nervous system. It still just seems like a plot hole for convenience.

    • @Spacecowboyy69
      @Spacecowboyy69 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      also just said everyone was given iodine for god knows how long while they were kept prisoners for the memories, isn't that like living in Chernobyl and taking a few tablets? some of these points are just theories which in turn doesn't help us at all

  • @samurexatlas7373
    @samurexatlas7373 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    The tragic irony is: They added a lot of fluff, but the fluff didn't flesh anything out.
    It could've been a movie instead of a show, but it wasn't.
    It could've been Avengers: Secret Invasion, giving us a team up before 2 cosmos shaking events.

  • @JamSome
    @JamSome ปีที่แล้ว +5

    So what I'm gathered from this video is that majority of the plot points can be answered in three ways: "because they're aliens", "because it's future tech" and "because Nick Fury just doesn't want to"

  • @brimfire
    @brimfire ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I dunno, man: at 1:54 the blood running down that finger looks EXACTLY as purple as the blood on the top of the finger and it looked that way in the episode, too.

  • @dsfddsgh
    @dsfddsgh ปีที่แล้ว +5

    So all we have to show for Secret Invasion is a OP character G'iah who nobody cares about and Maria Hill who people did like and wanted to learn more about now dead for no real reason. Well done Marvel.

  • @pablop1111
    @pablop1111 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    How does spiderman’s spidey sense not go off when he was around War Machine after civil war?

  • @messybark
    @messybark ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Hate to be that person, but POTUS wouldn't be the only head of state who is 'constantly watched' or draw suspicion for random trips to Russia. They had taken form of British PM and head of NATO without raising suspicion.

  • @lordrefrigeratorintercoole288
    @lordrefrigeratorintercoole288 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I love how the bad guy grow EbonyMaws arm and could use telekinesis all of a sudden.
    Like it came from the arm, and not like a skill that needs allot of training.

  • @WilliamJames48
    @WilliamJames48 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    TH-cam “The MCU can’t be fixed”
    Ryan “Hold my Keeps”

  • @ayyreuter
    @ayyreuter ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Speaking of Eternals, I find it interesting that everyone brings up Tiamat but no one talks about all those people that saw Arishem kidnap the Eternals at the end lol

    • @BlckSWANWhtRbbt
      @BlckSWANWhtRbbt ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Also, based on the timeline. London gets destroyed in The Eternals and Spiderman Far From Home very close together.

  • @zengamer21
    @zengamer21 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    ScreenCrush has entered its delusional era

  • @greenisnotacreativecolour
    @greenisnotacreativecolour ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I recently read an article explaining how copium is so addictive and how it takes over the human mind, and they referenced this exact video even though you hadn't made it yet. They just knew.

  • @Chad0023
    @Chad0023 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    You know its horribly bad when pple try to justify your mistakes by any means necessary😂

    • @thabangmotlhape7818
      @thabangmotlhape7818 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      that's bcz they only want to enjoy the series n not paying attention to what it builds up for other MCU projects, secret invasion might have not been the best show but it has a deeper meaning, do u think the MCU would just give G'iah all those powers for nothing!! It's all a part of their plan ,they are playing the long game 🤞n the possibilities are endless

  • @kemsat-n6h
    @kemsat-n6h ปีที่แล้ว +4

    1:41 I figured the Skrulls kinda worked like cephalopods (squid & octopus), which requires them to be alive to hold any transformation. If you kill the cephalopod, the transformations stop being held, and the animal returns to its default state or starts randomly transforming like a muscle twitching.

  • @ScreenCrush
    @ScreenCrush  ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Do you have any other questions or Plot Holes?

    • @SpammytheHedgehog
      @SpammytheHedgehog ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes. How did the MCU fall from grace?

    • @bakedpotato1717
      @bakedpotato1717 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What happens when they create many over-powered characters in ever increasingly world-ending events and these op characters finally meet?
      Will it be an epic endgame battle or like that fizzled multiverse of madness flick of a fight from an oil-covered Wanda?
      What’s the endgame for all these world-ending events? How are we suppose to keep our interest/belief in the seriousness?
      Thanks for all the work y’all do! Thanks for supporting the strike!

    • @DMacB42
      @DMacB42 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@SpammytheHedgehogIt didn’t “fall from grace” just because you’re bored with it.

    • @YODAddyLIVE
      @YODAddyLIVE ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Will there be a Gravil Jr? He does have the power of Groot so will any piece of Gravik (or Gaia) grow up to be an offspring of them?

    • @Marissa_J
      @Marissa_J ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The people being contained… how did they poop? Being that relaxed and out of it, it would just… leak out, right? There were no tubes or anything. And they were all in their regular clothes for days? Without poop???
      WHERE IS THE POOP?

  • @SynisterPride
    @SynisterPride ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I did not even think that the plot of the show could have been effected by the war currently going on. I wonder now how much was changed from the original plot line.

  • @mattyt1961
    @mattyt1961 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think Skrull Rhodey was put there by Fury. A way to keep his eye on everything and Tony Stark as well. He trusted Steve Rogers & Black Widow to do the right thing, but he didn't trust TS to do the right thing, that's why he wasn't at all surprised by the 'reveal' and was upset when he was 'fired' because this was a Skrull he trusted and he realised that this Skrull had turned.
    I wonder if this Skrull was related to Fury's wife and that he realised that his staunchest allies were now against him hence why he was so upset after that exchange.

  • @MusicLover-my6fo
    @MusicLover-my6fo ปีที่แล้ว +4

    G'iah might be referenced in The Marvels but given Secret Invasion's poor reception it might be best to exclude her from the film.

  • @Flirtz420
    @Flirtz420 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    If Gaia dies n then used her healing powers or her body did it automatically y didn’t Gravik? He had more time to practice his powers so he should have a better grip on them?

    • @tinofaratinashemukakaso5632
      @tinofaratinashemukakaso5632 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Disney and this guy choose to ignore it

    • @Drakobsidian
      @Drakobsidian ปีที่แล้ว

      Not just that why does he think gia has only extremis when she gets in the machine

    • @completeownage379
      @completeownage379 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Gaia was also only shot with a bullet, not blasted through the chest by a space laser, which was proven to stop extremis from working in Iron Man 3 when Tony uses his unibeam to blast a hole through the bald guy's chest and he doesn't come back.

    • @TheMrfluffi
      @TheMrfluffi ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Gaia snuck extremis, so assuming she was powerless Gravik shot her which should have killed her to his knowledge. All she had to do was play dead while the extremis healed her and Gravik left.

    • @NationalPjVillain
      @NationalPjVillain ปีที่แล้ว

      The same reason why the other people with extremis died while one like a aldridge killian took so much more to put down

  • @LurkingLeviathan
    @LurkingLeviathan ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "Can't keep depending on super heroes to save our asses" ok so the director is kinda mad about how harsh we're being on the show but seriously? They actually thought that line makes sense? That's literally what superheroes do for a living buddy, they save the earth and the people on it. I'm not a writer but I feel there could have been a better way to explain why the heros aren't helping. Fury wouldn't and didn't say that during the battle of new York and that was also an alien invasion, the only difference is the giant space worms and they brought their own guns and bomb from the get go.

  • @cristianuykan69
    @cristianuykan69 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think what @Mr.LegendDude was trying to say about the heroes’ dna from the battle of earth being contaminated is how was fury able to distinguish the dna from each person( as it obvious the only way to get the heroes dna was from their blood, which would be all over the battlefield and probably mixed together and thus being contaminated/deadly to consume

    • @mattyt1961
      @mattyt1961 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      DNA doesn't mix just because fluid mixes.

  • @freddyfaerie3499
    @freddyfaerie3499 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for explaining the red blood thing it's so annoying seeing people say rhody can't be a slrull because he bled red when every skrull bled red in human form

  • @adrianzjackson7342
    @adrianzjackson7342 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Better reasoning for the Skrulls not getting a new home....If Fury and Danvors thought there was only a few hundred Skrulls, even if they got a new home, how would they be able to protect it and themselves?? They could find the planet and then if any other alien species found them, they'd end up in another war, get overrun and end up right back on Earth working for Fury

  • @papayogi9684
    @papayogi9684 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    By that logic Mr. Harrington, Peter's teacher, could have been mistaken about his wife. If the skrulls replaced some dusted humans, maybe she really did dust instead of lying about it like he says in his story. Imagine that was true and the real one comes back after 5 years to learn someone has been impersonating her and ruined her marriage.

  • @tonypayne7371
    @tonypayne7371 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    When the Hulk snapped everyone back and re-did the blip. Shouldn't he have known that there was scrulls? He was snapping back in the on earth

  • @Kimm134Saya
    @Kimm134Saya ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ryan before this video: points out the same plot holes in previous videos
    Ryan in this video: These are not plot holes

  • @kingboarhog
    @kingboarhog ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm hung up on a few things, none more than, "Everyone shed some blood that day, even Carol Danvers." Did she? How? When?

    • @BaithNa
      @BaithNa ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And how did they recover it from the dirt?
      How did they recover the DNA of the villains that were dusted?
      None of it makes any sense 😂

    • @andrewshandle
      @andrewshandle ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BaithNa "How did they recover the DNA of the villains that were dusted?" - And know which DNA was for which villain even if we pretend they could?
      What's silly is, it'd make a better story if Fury was collecting the Harvest for years _before_ End Game becausee it would show he was already ahead of it. He had plenty of access already to Caps, Bucky's, Hulk's, and likely Thor's (and Loki's) DNA well before End Game.

  • @_TheViewer_
    @_TheViewer_ ปีที่แล้ว +2

    2:18 Just to add to it, nobody said that Talos was the only Skrull that Fury knew or that there aren’t no other “good” Skrulls left, called by G’iah ✌️

  • @dihboas
    @dihboas ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Also we could argue Fury ordered the harvest because he wanted the DNA of whoever was there despite of their habilities, he was probably like: "go and colect all of them", which means that although they have T'Challa's dna, that is the only thing they have: DNA, with no powers or special habilities attached to it, since Black Panther's powers are bestowed upon them from an entity and that might be an explation for other heroes in that narrative as well.
    The harvest was to collect DNA, not powers per se.

  • @Facetiously.Esoteric
    @Facetiously.Esoteric ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My issue is with Rhodey being a Skrull for so long. When he talks to Nebula waiting for Peter during the time heist, he implies he understands he feelings about being broken and rebuilt. A Skrull wouldn't know to say that.

  • @RemyLebeau1985
    @RemyLebeau1985 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pitch Meeting brought up that Ghost couldn't control her powers and also wasn't in End Game. They also pointed out that magic is supposed to be a learned skill, not something in your DNA.

  • @rapstallion6615
    @rapstallion6615 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey man, I remember watching your Black Widow breakdown video and commenting that you overlooked the MCU's first "mutant" appearance. Ursa Major is in the prison arm-wrestling with Red Guardian. As far as I am aware, that was the first mutant appearance/reference post-Disney acquiring the Fox property.

    • @teovu5557
      @teovu5557 ปีที่แล้ว

      he didnt use his powers at all and plently of "mutants" in the comics were in Falcan and the winter soldier during majipoor scenes but didnt use any powers eithers so they're not a mutant til the MCU shows them as one.

    • @rapstallion6615
      @rapstallion6615 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@teovu5557 How many mutants from the comics can you specifically identify by name from The Falcon and the Winter Soldier though? Madripoor isn't a place that's exclusively populated by mutants in the comics or anything . . .
      In Black Widow, Red Guardian makes an unmistakable reference to Ursa Major when he says both "You calling me a liar, Ursa?" and also "Ohh, look at the big bear" after breaking his wrist. Those 2 lines provide a much stronger implication of the first identifiable mutant appearance in the MCU than The Falcon and Winter Soldier simply having had a few scenes in Madripoor.
      I stand by my statement.

    • @teovu5557
      @teovu5557 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rapstallion6615 when did I say madripoor was a mutant island? lmao
      And Shelby is a mutant in the comics but showed no powers in the show.
      And in Black Widow when he called him a Big Bear kuz of his name Ursa Major which is a constellation of stars which means in Latin greater (or Big) bear.
      And his Russian name Mikhail Uriokovitch Ursus(Of the Bear)(rather then him being an out right Mutant).
      If he was an actual mutant wouldnt he transform rather then get wrecked n embarrassed by The Red Guardian after getting his arm snapped like a twig? Or used his form to escape too? Like I said theyre not mutants til they show them as such. Just like Kamala Khan was an Inhuman in the comics and they made her a confirmed Mutant in the MCU by all but out right stating it.
      You welcome

  • @rogerbordine7
    @rogerbordine7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Where was it confirmed that Rhodey was changed to a skrull after Civil War? Just because he’s in a hospital gown? He could have gone back in for a check up or possible leg surgery AFTER getting banged up in endgame and then SWAP, now he’s a skrull! Did some MCU official SAY civil war was when he was swapped? Or are you just going with your own assumptions?

  • @anthonydaquet7934
    @anthonydaquet7934 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    They should have it be that it takes such a toll on the skrulls bodies to have that many powers that it reduces their lifespan or something. This way they can kill off Gaia who is way too strong and limit the powers to 4 so it opens the door for the super skrull with the fantastic four’s powers

  • @noahzhellos8344
    @noahzhellos8344 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    15:25 the question kills me, I'm sorry. "Why didn't Fury shoot the guy who's being protected by the secret service?" As if the secret service or any other similar unit would wait to see the body hitting the ground before retaliating. I'm pretty sure Fury wanted to stay alive.

  • @ayyreuter
    @ayyreuter ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Here’s my question: I know DODC had Cull Obsidian’s severed hand from Infinity War and the Cull Obsidian from Endgame was a past version of himself, but when he dusted, wouldn’t the hand as well since it is still technically part of him?

    • @ceejeezyCGZ
      @ceejeezyCGZ ปีที่แล้ว

      No because it's cut off of him. People with organ transplants from people that were dusted weren't all of a sudden missing the organ.

  • @SadAce21
    @SadAce21 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not acknowledging Thanos’ Garden planet… an empty planet full of food and plant life as a possible home for the skulls is a huge oversight. Could have just said, we thought the Garden would have been a good home, but now it’s been destroyed by various alien civilizations taking out their revenge for the blip, or something elee

  • @claymathewselevator8121
    @claymathewselevator8121 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Peacemaker was a better Secret Invasion than Secret Invasion

  • @DefConprime28
    @DefConprime28 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @8:00 that's how you introduce SKRULL KILL KREW, The humans that gained powers from the scrolls that turned into cows that were turned into hamburger. Real story real comic book very 1990s could have tied this in

  • @mbzm1342
    @mbzm1342 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think the celestials are the source for adamantium which will cause wars and Tiamut will become the sub for Krakoa in the MCU eventually.

  • @rylandsherman5790
    @rylandsherman5790 ปีที่แล้ว

    The tone of this was perfect!
    Loved these explanations

  • @egresstheoopa1626
    @egresstheoopa1626 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I never thought Drax had tattoos. I always thought it was just a pattern from his race

  • @prftaepps
    @prftaepps ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Skrulls replaced people that got bliped, but I thought they needed the body for the memories.

  • @andrewshandle
    @andrewshandle ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I really appreciate how much water you are trying to carry, but some of these "explanations" are pretty bad and if those explanations are correct, shame on Marvel for not explaining them in tthe show. This video would have been so much more accurate if you and Doug just alternated with "Because it was in the Script! Next!"

  • @Jaybird718
    @Jaybird718 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please do a video theorizing the moment "the Threshold" (as referred to by He Who Remians) happened in every MCU project since Loki. PLEEEEASE!
    Only you can do it. it's only valid if it comes from you

  • @Mckeenmedia
    @Mckeenmedia ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The super skrull powers arent all powers all the time, they need to call specific powers and concentrate on them like they do with shape shifting.
    Thats why Giah was able to kill Gravik at all, otherwise they would have been in stalemate.
    So she isnt connected to the powers that govern carols powers all the time, only when using them, and even then its not clear whether the powers are generated from her or some sort of connection or conduit to the energy of the tesseract.

  • @Movie_Culture66
    @Movie_Culture66 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The reason why Rhodey was crawling in endgame was not spywork. The concept was created later on and that spywork thing is a lame excuse for altering a character. To me that is still Rhodey not a skrull as they have ruined him now.

  • @cashout8582
    @cashout8582 ปีที่แล้ว

    When Ryan said that this is a run-on sentence that you just gave us. It reminded me of the high evolutionary correcting rocket raccoon saying "can't" with an accent

  • @killjoy7021
    @killjoy7021 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Given how many hydra members were in shield I’m kinda like “a skrull has never taken a hydra member?” Bs 😂

  • @mellyboo513
    @mellyboo513 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ‘Gimme your gun gawdammit’ is going to go down as one of those hilarious pointless flunks even more now that Ryan keeps pointing it out! 😂😂😂 it was awful 😂

  • @u64770
    @u64770 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If Fury knows Dr.Strange, Hank Pym, Thor, and Black Panther, how is it that he couldn't make a home for the Skrulls if he couldn't find one?

  • @momaw_C1-10P
    @momaw_C1-10P ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ryan must be a Skrull to keep a straight face this entire video

  • @jedirayden
    @jedirayden ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly I almost think Ritson demanding a gun from his Secret Service security detail was someone (the director, the actor, the EP, who knows) saying "Hey let's give Ritson a bit more to do in this scene than just lay here and watch events unfold around him"
    Or, the (poorly executed, to say the least) idea was that Ritson is aware he's viewed as kind of a joke, so that was his first step towards getting himself some "street cred", his second step being his declaration of genocide on all alien species on Earth.

  • @death_au
    @death_au ปีที่แล้ว

    Re: "Gimme your gun, goddamnit!"
    Ridson was left alone with an agent whose regular gun-toting arm was in a sling (this situation should never have arisen, but reshoots, budgets, yadda yadda).
    He was in a stressful situation, feeling very vulnerable stuck in a hospital bed and being shoved around on others' (Rhodey's) instruction. And to Ridson's knowledge, someone was coming to kill him. He wanted the gun because it made him feel safer (a problem a lot of Americans seem to have) and he didn't think the agent could use it effectively anyway.
    Was it stupid? Yes.
    Did it make sense? Also yes.

  • @YourBeingParanoid
    @YourBeingParanoid ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If Rhodey was in suspended animation to the point where his hair didn't grow, why did the rest of his body still age and the rate of a year every year?

  • @viswanathr2756
    @viswanathr2756 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    About black panthers powers, fury may not be knowing how tchalla got his powers. The only thing he knows is wakanda is having advanced technology and they somehow created steroids like the super soldier serum for themselves which make him powerful and that's in his DNA. So Fury collected it.

  • @nathanielmcelwrath7805
    @nathanielmcelwrath7805 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:34 I think the harvest wasn’t the only part of the machine I think it also can add memories from from person

  • @MrEnKaye
    @MrEnKaye ปีที่แล้ว

    This video is waaaay more entertaining if you listen to every word with a sarcastic tone.
    Great job on the video though, you really put the work and thought in to come up with explanations!

  • @302hugo
    @302hugo ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Someone explain it to me, lol. How is Gravik dead? He got blasted through the chest but wouldn't he be able to just use the extremist power to heal? I mean, he took the ice spear in the chest and was fine. Are we to assume that it was just a large enough hole to hit the heart which maybe can't regenerate? I would have liked to see her blast him in half or something that we more permanent. I thought the scene was weak.

  • @thasixsage
    @thasixsage ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really look for a new SC video every day. The SC and NR team are really my mcu TH-cam life blood!

  • @lonster3000
    @lonster3000 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think it’s cute how you think Marvel will follow up on all the unresolved storylines in the next movie or two. Just like they followed up on what happened in the Eternals.

  • @nickriggio3101
    @nickriggio3101 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    SCREENCRUSH AND RYAN THE GOAT FR😈🔥🐐

    • @The_Infamous_Boogyman
      @The_Infamous_Boogyman ปีที่แล้ว

      I SLIGHTLY prefer new rock stars...but now that MT is gone and they post pretty much 85% less than they did, this is almost a tie for my top channel. 👍

  • @RicardoPetinga
    @RicardoPetinga ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the reason why their transformations include Ebony Maw's rings and Drax's tattoos is because Skrulls replicate what they see. They don't need the DNA of others to transform, they only need the DNA to acquire their powers and abilities, so the only reasons they partially transform at all are 1) because the original powers also transform its bearers somehow and 2) to simply focus on the power they want to use. They had to have studied or at least seen some of the characters whose powers they were replicating, so when they think "I need Ebony Maw's telekinesis" they instinctively transform into Ebony Maw as they remember seeing him.
    Also, it seems that even though they now have the DNA of all those characters, it doesn't make them a fusion of them all, but merely allows them, through their innate shapeshifting ability, to replicate their DNA *when* they need or want to and that is the only way to access the powers related to that DNA.

  • @belowaveragegamer8612
    @belowaveragegamer8612 ปีที่แล้ว

    Working overtime here. Great work. Extra high fives in order 😁

  • @davidjackson4326
    @davidjackson4326 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    glad to see you back in the algorithm!

  • @IsiahBradley
    @IsiahBradley ปีที่แล้ว +2

    THANKS for this, Doug and Ryan!!! I love Samuel L. Jackson and MCU Nick Fury so thanks for letting me feel better about this show sans Jackson!

  • @kreiyu
    @kreiyu ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you for mentioning astro city. it's a wonderful look at the personal lives of heroes and regular people in a superhero world. i don't think it gets mentioned enough.

  • @SmashYamato
    @SmashYamato ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice shout out to Astro City. Would also recommend Busiek's Marvels series.

  • @geniejunkie
    @geniejunkie ปีที่แล้ว

    I mean the obvious answer on weakness is that the super skrull has to "use" a power. They can mix and match but mantis cranium cannot take thanos headbutt, etc. Non changed parts are basic skrull. The only passive is extremis. I think charcters becoming avatars of the infinity stones is kinda interesting. You just need a reason that is important that's not a bunch of steps away

  • @drewart1546
    @drewart1546 ปีที่แล้ว

    22:41 best part about this whole video comedy gold

  • @MultiWicht
    @MultiWicht ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It’s becoming increasingly obvious that Marvel desperately needs someone to coordinate their stories between those sealed of projects. Not being able to use Wanda‘s character development for Multiverse of Madness was unfortunate and hurt the story of that movie. At least try to connect those stories where you know that the same characters will show up. Maybe this will sort itself out if Disney reduces the amount of series on D+…

  • @LaterMercury823
    @LaterMercury823 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Ryan, why didn't you also explain why Peter Parker/Spider-Man DNA was not shown on the list and the reason why.
    Fury and the Skrulls would have added Peter's DNA to the list on the Harvest since Peter's Spider Powers could be useful.

    • @dakotavanleer3859
      @dakotavanleer3859 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was just thinking the same thing i would say Doctor Strange spell but that would just wipe out all memories of him and not destory DNA samples. There should still be DNA of Spider-Man that could be an oversight or something else who knows.

  • @dabbzgaming
    @dabbzgaming ปีที่แล้ว

    I think what they were taking about in regards to "ridiculously contaminated" is Bruce Banner's blood specifically. Gamma Radiation isn't the same as Nuclear Radiation and I mean unless Skrulls are immune to all existing forms of radiation....

  • @Mckeenmedia
    @Mckeenmedia ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Imho there is NO WAY Rhodey was replaced before end game. They wouldn't have a real reason and the risk is too great, anyone between Rhodeys rank and the president would be a better choice. And easier.
    He could have been in the hospital for a check up or surgery or a number of reasons. Just because he's in a hospital gown doesn't mean it was that specific moment from civil war when he was taken.

  • @Garagelab164
    @Garagelab164 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you ever do a part 2 here’s a question how do they have Ghost DNA and does Gaia have her weakness?

  • @LetMeOutProductions
    @LetMeOutProductions ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How about we just all agree the Secret Invasion showrunner didn't know his ass from his hairline about when Rhodey was replaced.
    It's better canon if he's replaced after Endgame. If Martin Freeman was replaced after Wakanda Forever, that's still a significant time-gap that would explain his confusion.

  • @AwesTex
    @AwesTex ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don’t buy it but good try. Lol😊 Thanks for the shout out!

  • @silvanamiranda957
    @silvanamiranda957 ปีที่แล้ว

    Iodine tablets don't help against radiation in the sense that they only work against radioactive iodine by saturating your thyroid, preventing the radioactive iodine that can be in the environment to damage the thyroid and prevent long term effects. Damage to your body (gastrointestinal effects for example, would still happen and potentially kill you). I think the more plausible explanation, since we are trying to make reasonable scientific explanations in a superhero universe xD, is that the humans were shielded while being captive and the workers had limited time exposure on the site. Although they should still be wearing protective suits.
    I think personally it is just lack of attention to detail and budget restrictions paired with bad reasearch and writing overall, that affected this show immensely.

  • @moreorlesto
    @moreorlesto ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Here's a thing that no one seems to consider - WHAT IF (ha ha) the Super Skrull powers are TEMPORARY?! Everyone just seems to assume that once Skrull science had combined with impersonated human scientist knowledge, that it was a "done deal". But *experimental* procedures never have a guarantee of their effectiveness or longevity. Fans annoyed that Gi'ah is now the most powerful humanoid in the universe (but why, since we've already been witness to at least a dozen other characters that could put a serious hurting on her) don't seem to consider the possibility of a future story telling us that the process wasn't fool-proof and/or is fatal. (Armor Wars, anyone?) Mix a genetic stew like that, and there are bound to be consequences. My guess is she either melts into a multi-genetic soup while saving her people, or is simply forgotten about and never mentioned again (until maybe Secret Wars, ha ha).

    • @LunchinSports
      @LunchinSports ปีที่แล้ว

      I believe her powers will be temporary as well.

  • @guevarasamson1165
    @guevarasamson1165 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    At this point, Ryan is more passionate about the MCU/Marvel than Marvel/Disney is smh….

  • @jlashombjr
    @jlashombjr ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think the logic is backwards. They don't shift into the DNA that was into the vile. The Skrulls need to shift into the person and the harvest allowed that transformation to be a closer match that includes the powers. So she had to shift her arm into Drax's actual arm she learned from intel to have access to those powers.

    • @deanthemachine8879
      @deanthemachine8879 ปีที่แล้ว

      But they don’t look like Carol when they’re using her powers

    • @jlashombjr
      @jlashombjr ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@deanthemachine8879 That's a good point. I assume she transformed her fists, but a little rewatching and there are plenty of powers where they don't transform to use them (super strength, extremis, ghost's powers). Maybe it's only required for powers that are derived from a change in appearance. Anyone can have super strength, but Drax or Hulk strength requires partial transformation into those heroes.
      The show could have used another 6 months to bake and make sure it was quality.

  • @volntyr3268
    @volntyr3268 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    With President Ritson's order to place all non-world species "enemy combatants", did he just declare war on Thor and New Asgard?

  • @daniellemack5648
    @daniellemack5648 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Maybe this question deserves a full episode, or maybe you can address it in a side note in an upcoming video, WHY is it that shows like Stargate SG-1 with tons of special effects can crank out over 20 great quality shows that are over 40 minutes each on a fraction of the budget of Marvel shows that take just as long to produce, some are not that long, and they do less than 10 episodes with even worse graphics with better technology than they had back when Stargate SG-1 was being made? Where is all the money and time going? Why are the special effects worse and not better with more money and better technology?

  • @robywar
    @robywar ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Reaching, but good attempts! I don't see any red blood on that finger, only purple.

  • @gnosticmind
    @gnosticmind ปีที่แล้ว

    The ending of SI was the first time the actual words “this is really stupid” escaped my lips watching something Marvel. I’m all about suspension of disbelief, but SI was just dumb…

  • @GrizzlyBrwn9
    @GrizzlyBrwn9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    They're not tattoos, its scarification

    • @Emily-ri4nb
      @Emily-ri4nb ปีที่แล้ว

      Aren't them normal on the skin? Just like humans have fingerprints and lighter palm of hands and armpits?

  • @vangeeson
    @vangeeson ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I watch all this, but with draining interest and seriousness. But i'm looking very forward to 5 years from now, when we all laugh about ourselfs on how we tried to talk sense into the post covid area of the MCU

  • @marcospelaez5970
    @marcospelaez5970 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think part of the confusion is thinking Gaia HAS all these powers, but she doesn’t. She HAS ACCESS to all these powers. She doesn’t have them while she’s not activating it by intentionally taking the form or using the DNA. She wouldn’t be entangled with the Marvels unless she happened to be using the powers at the time.

  • @seanj3667
    @seanj3667 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The smartest thing the MCU can do is make the Super Skrull thing wear off after a month or two.

  • @hugheffo
    @hugheffo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Isn’t Fury just like Indiana Jones. Even if he did nothing it still would have turned out exactly the same.

  • @tinofaratinashemukakaso5632
    @tinofaratinashemukakaso5632 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Every other plot hole video of yours nails it, but this one failed like the Secret Invasion show. It's like spraying gold paint on horse$#!+

  • @dion5300
    @dion5300 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If Xmen character Rogue was to absorb G'iahs powers,
    would she (rogue) just have the ability to morph,
    or...
    be able to morph plus all the super mutant abilities as well?

  • @joshuafass5841
    @joshuafass5841 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sam Rami hadn't watched Wanda Vision when he was making MOM. that explains some creative choices.

  • @truthstyle206
    @truthstyle206 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like ScreenCrush, but Ryan is bending over backward to defend the downward spiral of the MCU. Fans brought up legitimate criticisms, and he just brushed them off with ridiculous responses. For example, the massive Celestial protruding from the Indian Ocean. Ryan said, "it will likely be addressed later," and "the MCU silos their projects," and "I'm tired of hearing about the Celestial, not a plot hole," and then he points to a barely noticeable scene in Externals that hinted "people believe it is a statue."
    Ryan made excuses for Secret Invasion until the bitter end, when it was too hard to defend anymore. 'Shill' is a charged word, but we've got a lot to learn from Ryan's simping.