SECRET INVASION Review - The Real Reason Why the Marvel Show FAILED
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Marvel's Secret Invasion had so much promise. It adapted a beloved comic book, had a stellar cast, a great team--so what the hell happened to this show? in this video, we break down all of the real-world reasons that caused the show to fall apart, and explain where the Marvel Cinematic Universe goes from here.
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Secret Invasion was…not great. All throughout the show, I was rooting for it. I thought it started off strong and then went downhill so fast-even getting a 13% rotten tomatoes rating-by far the worst for Marvel. So I’m going to explain exactly what went wrong with this show-the behind-the-scenes problems that plagued it, the state of marvel going forward-and why this show was the greatest disappointment ever in the MCU.
Doug: Biggest disappointment ever? Geez that seems like an exaggeration.
Well Doug, let me take you back to 2003, to the movie X2: X-Men united. Superhero movies were mostly missed until this point-the year before we had raimi spider-man, and this movie finally got the X-Men 100% right. Jean Gray had just died sacrificing herself for the X-men, and just before the credits, we got this tease [clip].
That was teasing the dark phoenix saga-one of the greatest all time comics stories ever that comic fans never thought we’d get to see on the big screen. And when X-men 3 came out 3 years later, what we got was a low-budget, half assed interpretation of this epic story. That’s how secret invasion made me feel.
Doug: But it's not fair to compare the show to the comic book.
You’re right-so I’m going to avoid comparing this show to the events of the comic. The comic was this sprawling crossover event filled with superheroes-but the show adapts a small part of the comic, where Nick Fury goes off on hisnown to root out skrulls. So I will compare this show to those comics, where it’s appropriate.,
The secret invasion director Ali Selim, even said to Variety: “Marvel has a very devoted - even rabid - fan base who have expectations and when their expectations aren’t fulfilled, they move in the other direction' they give it a thumbs down...is it our job to fulfill their expectations?"
Look man, if you made a bad show, don't blame fans for saying it's a bad show., But, as I’ll prove throughout this video, the show is not bad because of this director. There was a confluence of events that hampered Secret INvasion, which made it almost impossible to tell a compelling story. But before we can explain what went wrong behind the scenes, we have to talk about what was actually wrong with the show.
And there was a lot wrong with this show-ain't is a failure. Now I don't use that word often-I love MCU stories, and this one has to rank near the bottom of anyone’s l'ist-but the worst MCU show is still better than most TV shows. And the secret invasion was miles ahead of the Inhumans or Helstrom.
But this show might have been doomed to fail, because the premise of the show was flawed from the start. The MCU was not in the right place to tell the story of a secret invasion.
So Back to secret INvasion-I think the context behind the show was flawed from the start. This is one of those times when I have to compare this story to the comics, and to show why maybe this adaptation wasn't right for the MCU/. in the comics, the skrulls have been villains since Fantastic Four number 2. Some skrulls are good guys, but comic readers generally accept that the skrulls are villains.
So, when a Secret INvasion crossover was announced, we understood what it meant-the skrulls were about to hatch the villainous plan they’d been building up toward since 1961. But in the MCU, the movie captain marvel went for this reversal to make the skrulls good guys. [straw drink]. Now for the movie and for Carol's character development, this was a great choice. It showed Carol that she had been fed lies about the war, made her question her identity, and humanized refugees.
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But why 3?
Marvel Studios will bounce back I mean with Loki season two it got so much bugs and Deadpool three been rated R Hard-core that means there’s still time and hope Will you be getting much welcome back Frank a punisher TV show directed by breaking bad or movie writers and directors of John Wick that will be so cool and done properly.
I feel bad for Marvel said to you, I don’t know who to blame the directors or Marvel does anybody have a idea
Can you explain this, why the hibernating humans that were with Rhodey in the skrull's compound did not died from radiation exposure?
You missed the chance to compare the attitude of this oresident to that of the one in xmen2, plus the fact skrulls jumped from ff to avngrs, so with no infinity gems you forget to ponder what drstrange meant for our only chance among 14M... that wasn't meant fir thanos but for the outcome of phase 6, which I hope will set us bloodties and onslaught, not just secret wars.
Biggest reason the show failed is because this should have had a whole phase devoted to it. Instead of just a a few episodes.
Keeping people guessing for an entire phase of films and shows about who is real and who is a skrull would have been amazing and they could have thrown in little hints.
The secret invasion was just fine as it was with a small story. The skulls weren't cool enough to go on for an entire phase.
@@DarkManSonianNah, you do Secret Invasion for a whole phase, introduce the Fantastic Four and have their first film in the MCU and then end with Captain Marvel: Kree-Skrull War. Could have been great.
@@fracturedfingers Captain Marvel 1 was already about the Kree-Skrull War.
@@fracturedfingers I don't see the line of that. Maybe at this point the MCU needs an entire actual reset.
Wipe the slate clean and redo everything.
I was so frustrated by Maria Hill being fridged, always loved the character and was excited to see more of her secret invasion but no such luck.
Same!
I've always enjoyed Maria Hill in the comics. In the show? It always just felt like Colbie Smulders wandered on set and put on a jump suit. Meh.
Got me dropped MCU at all. I have lived through Black Widow's death, and Wanda's fall, but Maria Hill was a breaking point.
and for what?? for what??? i'm glad to hear marvel is going back to quality over quantity. hopefully, they can correct course after the strikes
Yeah they made a "replacement" for Fury out of a character we don't know and never met, when Maria would be a perfect instead... Although I do like the character of Sonya, but it came out of nowhere, and has no development.
I loved the part where Giah-Fury walks into the Skrull base coughing to establish the pains of radiation, but when the humans are saved, suddenly the place is clean and no precautions are needed for their safety. Real good continuity
right? like, all these important people were kept at the facility for an undisclosed amount of time, perhaps several years, and they were seemingly just fine. were they being fed iodine intravenously or something? do they all have cancer now? who knows.
Omg. I never realized that
Thank you for saying this!! Was really annoyed by how low maintenance the evacuation felt
Very bad writing, i'm MCU fanatic i like every MCU film and series so far(even i like she hulk) but this show is beyond dissapointing.
It’s bad writing on the show, that’s to Kyle Bradstreet.
Anyway : coughing was to irritate Skrulls which MIGHT be around. + Nobody Said that they didn’t covered their lab and the place where they hold all their captives/later be revealed the Skrulls injected some to defend the radiation on their captives.
Heck dude, it’s sci-fi. But the bad writing is there, overall just not on the point you mentioned
Just think 😉
It's frustrating that channels like these come up with better story lines than the actual MCU shows.
Indeed
finding flaws is the easiest thing to do (and often fun, too!). committing money, time, people, effort, executing, managing, and delivering is much much much harder - given the behind-the-scenes problems, they really should've just scrapped the release. they could've fixed the story and released secret invasion in 2025 and i wouldn't have blinked
MCU has been a steaming pile of shit for years. Incorporating real life politics and incompetent writers have been the norm ever since infinity war. I used to be excited about every new movie, until I fell asleep half way through end game.
Maybe if you watched less of channels like that you wouldn't have overhyped expectations of these TV shows and movies and would be able to enjoy them for what they are.
These are the same channels that said The Flash movie would be the greatest DC movie, and completely change the DCU. And then it flopped.
Because they’re fans, the writers are all some nepo cases or knew someone, they never even heard of iron man till the mcu, these are the people writing these shows , that haven’t seen other media or even other movies WITHIN the mcu, so pretty easy to follow along if you truly care but the writers dont they just want that check
I can describe my feeling on this show with one phrase. " Somehow....Palpatine has returned "
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Nailed it.
Without a light saber too.
Seems like the Chapek effect is a root cause behind the string of less than satisfying Star Wars and Marvel movies.
For a grounded in reality spy thriller the ending really jumped the shark. We also had Fury sidelined and got no closure on his "too old for this" arc. He just retreated to his spaceship.
When dealing with super powered aliens it’s hard to stay in just one genre. Good or bad most of these projects will end with a big fight.
Even if we completely ignore the Skrull fight at the end, the show did a really poor job of being a "grounded in reality spy thriller" long before Episode 6.
It’s similar to Falcon and Winter Soldier where the really interesting ideas are touched upon but then abandoned for a superhero-ey ending. It wasn’t bad until the final episode which turned it all into a blank slate.
And then hes suddenly the man again judging from the marvels trailer & its annoying I would have to watch that to know the fallout of the skrull issue.
@@andrewshandlenegative. Secret Invasion handled the spy craft genre very well. But, you'd know that if you watched the classics in the spy genre before. Spy thrillers aren't supposed to spoon feed the audience every two seconds and they did a good job keeping suspense rising until the end fight reveal
The director has some audacity blaming the audience for a show that’s legitimately bad
Well, it is our fault we don’t like it, technically, but that doesn’t mean anything. Both things are true: the show is legitimately bad, and it is our fault we don’t like it. The director could have even more audacity and blame the studio, because ultimately, it’s the studio that doesn’t respect the fans, not the director. The director did the best they could with what they had. The director is just a pawn as much as the audience is.
Seriously though, fans demanding respect as though they own the franchise need to look in the mirror. Nothing will please every fan. Franchises don’t belong to the audiences. The creators can do what they like. Don’t like, don’t watch, don’t whine.
@@katherinegilks3880 that’s all fine and good but when we don’t like and don’t watch it’s the studios who are whining. It’s not just MCU; every movie that fails now a days is blamed on a “toxic audience”. I don’t remember them pulling those cards in the 80s and 90s
@@katherinegilks3880 I would agree if this were anything but the MCU. At this point, it’s dedicated fan interest that keeps it running. You can argue that everything is subjective and while true, there is still such thing as a bad project. If everything was, “good,” there’d be no reference point or nothing to compare anything to. And this was one of those terrible projects 💀
It isn’t really bad, yall just expect everything to be perfect
@@katherinegilks3880 A movie or series is a product we paid for, we as consumer have right to dictate what we want and our opinion on a project matters, it's not our "fault" that we don't like a product it's the makers fault for failing to meet our Standards, you don't have to please everyone but majority. So stop blaming fans for not liking something, as long as fans aren't attacking people involved it's all justified. People don't get praise for their efforts, they get for their results. M night shyamalan put efforts in Air bender live action as well, or Velma had efforts put into it as well, but it's not fans fault they hate them, it's fucking studios fault that it's bad then it's directors fault for accepting the studios unreasonable demands.
Edgar Wright spent ears on an ant man movie, but even after that when the studio started making unreasonable demands, he left the project due to creative difference and i respect him for not compromising, shows integrity.
Also blaming studio takes balls of steel that not all creator have not audacity.
That's my biggest issue with the entire show... They cheapened every single hero by so easily giving all their powers to one person. Just really stupid...
yeah. and the show was super fast paced in my opinion too
You know this is comic accurate right? There was a Super Skrull in the comics that wielded all the heroes powers.
So I don't see what the problem is. It's not like she is an all powerful being now. She's limited to 4 powers at a time and has to switch between them.
true 100%. plus we know sometime down the line we might have to deal with a power crazy, "daenarys mode" Gi'ah or something. they've got a super skrull on the good guys' side and like... they have to address the character again at some point.
the cat's out of the bag now and Gi'ah is in the mcu, with all those powers and nobody to use them with or against, so what now?!
I guess I'm just a little concerned/apprehensive about how it's all going to play out - do they nerf her? avoid the topic and wait til people forget? idfk, but i really hope the events and implications of secret invasion haven't messed up things going forward. it's like that giant frozen celestial sticking out of the ocean. nothing has been mentioned since it happened in eternals and like, why?!!
kevin feige needs to get everybody on the same page otherwise this kinda stuff will keep on happening.
I think this show was all about setting up an op female superhero like she hulk.
Right
I still remember the soul crushing feeling when they announced secret invasion was going to be a D+ show. Just by saying that, I knew it was going to be a cheap-feeling, dumbed down version of what the skrull invasion was. Even with that in mind, I really didn't expect to be as bad as it was though.
Also in the secret invasion comics, IMO, had Maria Hill finally doing cool stuff. They showed her being just as capable and steps ahead like Nick Fury. Throughout her MCU appearances she has been criminally underused, and she never did anything that showcased what a total BA her comic counter-part is. I was thinking "could secret invasion tv series finally be the moment they give her cool stuff to do?!"...Nope just killed off quick.
Even though I knew I would be disappointed by this show, I still didn't realize how bad it was going to be.
For me it wasn't the characters they used from the comics, but the ones they took out to make this a cheaper show...which felt like everybody important in the comic storyrun.
I did. I expected it to be exactly as bad as it was, because it's about the average for the D+ MCU shows. It's about the average for all of phase 4 really.
@@bad-people6510 More like all of Marvel since Endgame..... Better yet, more like all of Disney's output (Marvel, Lucasfilm, Pixar, Disney live action, Disney animation) for the last 5 years or so.
Someone on Reddit pointed out that there are 2 empty, livable planets between IW and EG (titan and thanks retirements planet). The idea that Fury knew that there were livable planets and chose to keep his spies to protect earth, AND Talos knew about it. This gives so much more justification to Gravik’s motivation and also, a reason for Fury not to involve the Avengers out of shame.
Wow didn't know that
Nope those two planets are probably not far enough to avoid Kree detection. Even the Guardians ship could reach them. The point is to find a planet distant enough to flee from the Krees.
@@johnDemSochow much you wanna bet the writes don’t even know who the kree are or forgot about them
brilliant. The worst part for marvel is that it was Carol Danvers, herself, who established the fact that the planet was empty.
Its sad that marvel has gotten so big but its editing has gotten so small. Thats a fulltime job and should be why feige gets the big bucks. If he''s the keeper of the secrets, he's gotta be burdened with all this shit in his head. It would appear no one wants that job.
Titan was inhabitable after the fight with Thanos but the Retirement planet definitely would have worked.
Show should have been Fury finding that a bunch of Skrulls have secretly infiltrated the Earth during the Blip and having him and Talos rooting them out. Then we would have found out the true story behind the Skrull - Kree war and that Talos was actually part of an advance pre-invasion scout and intelligence group. Then when Fury and whomever finally defeated Talos and his small group we get the big reveal of the pods in the basement and just how many Skrulls there are here.
This sounds much more interesting than what we got.
Olivia Coleman and Jackson’s performance were the absolute BEST parts of that show. I hope she has more moving forward.
Phase 5 should've focused on this secret invasion concept where the whole saga/phase we see beloved characters becoming skrulls i feel like that would've been fun
Great idea
should’ve been phase 4 tbh… immediately dive into the post blip world, not the multiverse shit
Its upsetting. The writers arent even fans and arent watching the other shows. Great actors horrible storylines.
it should have highly focused on the blip, and been designed around that.
Y'all come up with the most basic ideas lmao I'm thankful y'all ain't writers
I was really saddened by the whole Rhodie reveal. He was a great character and to find out that for several movies and projects that he was a Skrull cheapens those great moments like when he and Nebula bonded over the tech for their bodies and also sad that they took a disabled superhero got rid of that. Like, at the end of Civil War, when Tony was helping him learn to walk again, did the Skrull fake being disabled? It's like his character got wiped out.
You can just pretend that Rhodie was only recently made a Skrull. I don't remember anything in the show itself that said when Rhodie was taken by the Skrulls.
If you pay attention to the details, you’ll notice that Rhodey was found in his hospital gown and couldn’t walk on his own. This tells us he had to be switched after he got injured in Civil War.
It would have been SUPER DUPER easy to incorporate one of the key elements from the comics regarding skrull motivation... religious fanaticism. Having random skrulls say "he loves you" leading into the reveal of the zealot faction, symbols of Kly'bn all over, etc. It not only would have made for a great rational motivation, but given the show a relevant modern topic to build a theme upon. You could even have a post-credit tease of the actual Kly'bn. He's a skrull eternal! HOW DID THEY MISS THAT!?!
Because they're not interested in good stories, unfortunately. They're only looking for large short term monetary gain. It's rather disappointing,really.
Imagine if this show was called “Original Sin” and its just revealed the Skrull invasion to Fury. And then there was a “Secret Invasion” movie after.
I feel like this series was set up at first for 12 or more episodes but got rail roaded into a 6 episode format that has to be followed. There was so much here that could be done instead and even with a limited budget. In the end, Secret Invasion, was just a check box that Disney felt they needed to hit.
I had zero expectations going in, loved episode 2, really like several characters, and I really liked the last scene between Fury and his wife. There was something very moving - for me - about whatever her name was reverting to her natural form and the two of them kissing and embracing - especially after the earlier poem scenes. I also really, really like the British woman/spymaster. Great actor, great character.
But sure, lots of head-scratching choices. I hated what happened to Maria Hill, hated that they killed off Talos, and wished the Fury/Gravic conversation in the last episode had actually been with Fury. But then, if they’d had that conversation at the beginning of the series, it would (or should) have undermined the entire plot.
Bill Simmons, Exec Producer of the initial run of ESPN'd "30 for 30" documentaries, plus a bunch of other docs for HBO recently said that there's nothing worse than seeing a really good idea for a documentary done poorly, because not only is the doc bad, but it burns anyone else from touching the topic for a decade or so. The biggest problem with this show is that Marvel burned one of their best trump cards and didn't even take the hand. Now the idea is finished and can' be done in the MCU again. The Opportunity Cost is the biggest problem.
Like the game of thrones finale.
They create an ending that basically blows up the stair case. Now no one else can build on what you broke. A great concept is now toxic.
@@Calibur1980 "They create an ending that basically blows up the stair case. Now no one else can build on what you broke."
Oooo, I like this analogy. Well done ;)
They need you Ryan as a consultant on all future MCU projects!!
That idea of Fury taking down the Super Skrull because he’s always had contingency plans for any of the Hero’s in case they go rouge like Batman has is incredible!!!!
I mean, Giah was basically the modern woman. She goes both ways but plays to only her side, takes advantage of the hard work and inventions of the men to further herself, and steers clear of other people's problems. She had a more loving connection with Patricia than she did her dad. She's no hero. She's not a morally good character. She wasn't devastated that her father died. She was in it for herself and is now the strongest character in the MCU
I've been watching a lot of reviews to make sense of this show, but this is the first video that offered catharsis. It's the easiest thing in the world to say "bad writing" and move on, but Ryan's explanations make a lot of sense here. This show's issues are more deep-seated than its silly CGI finale.
Many have gone in-depth as to WHY the writing is bad. And why it's been bad in ever single other Disney+ Marvel show as well.
This isn't really much worse written than the others, it's probably middle of the pack in that regard, people just noticed this time for some reason. I think the luster is wearing off.
Have you tried, idk, analyzing it yourself and coming to your own conclusions? Do you always need someone else to formulate your ideas for you?
Ryan's analysis is in fact quite bad because he lets the writers off the hook and blames it all on MCU reshoots when he doesn't even know what or how much of the show was reshot exactly.
This review also doesn't point out that the Fury in this show is portrayed as broken and wanting to give up which is THE EXACT OPPOSITE of the Nick Fury we know. Fury gets berated by Olivia Colman's character for losing faith upon finding out there's always a bigger, badder villain out there more powerful than Fury. This would NEVER break Fury because Fury has ALWAYS been the one fighting against the odds and that is EXACTLY why he made the Avengers, a team of superpowered beings to take on the fights Fury himself can't as a human.
Then there's the standard Disney progressive bullshit where they YET AGAIN take male leads and basically replace them with younger, more competent female leads (e.g. Fury replaced by Olivia Colman's character, Talos replaced by G'iah). They do some version of this in pretty much every Disney+ show post-Wandavision.
Other writing problems are that in a world where Skrulls impersonate people at will there almost never is any checking that various characters are actually human and not Skrull. Olivia Colman's character does it once by shooting her MI6 superior to reveal that he's not human (something which could have been done in the hospital scene with Ritsen, Rhodes, Fury and Olivia Colman's character). Outside of that, there are no tests performed, no devices invented to detect Skrulls, etc. Despite knowing about Skrulls, neither Fury, nor the US or UK governments (both of which know about them) inform anyone else, which allows Skrulls to impersonate people freely without worrying that they will be detected.
Then there's the power level of the Skrulls that fluctuates wildy. Based on the Captain Marvel movie Skrulls aren't shown to be stronger than humans, they just are able to look copy human looks. In Secret Invasion they somehow have superhuman strength, such that Talos frequently performs feats of strength (breaking down doors, chains, etc.). Then they do this with the Super Skrulls too: Gravik has the super healing of Extremis and we see how easily he heals from being shot in the face by Fury (just like G'iah does later when shot by Gravik) but then, in the final battle, G'iah shoots a hole through Gravik who now dies, for some reason not being able to heal himself anymore despite having the powers of multiple Avengers and supervillains. Sure...why not...
"Bad writing" is such a lazy excuse considering the writer of this show has a lot of credentials.
@@fyngolnoldor4891 Try not to assume the worst in people, even if they're on the internet. I critique writing as part of my trade and found the discussion around this project more interesting than my own personal grievances. Just weighing opinions against mine, including yours. It's part of the process.
@@LotkaVolterra Fair enough, but the way you worded your comment made it seem like there aren't in-depth critiques of WHY the writing is bad in this show. There are quite a lot of them, in fact.
I would also add that in my experience assuming the worst on the internet usually lands you quite close to the truth.
For the most part, I enjoyed the show. I never expected it to follow the comics when we learned it would be a show and not a movie. At first, I thought Captain Marvel 2 (or The Marvels) was gonna adapt the Secret Invasion storyline since Carol has history with them. But, clearly, Marvel has other plans for these stories. And while I enjoyed the first 5 episodes, the season finale didn’t really stick the landing. Super Skrull fight is cool and all, but it felt like a rush to get to the finish line just so Marvel can move on to other projects. There wasn’t even a post-credits scene; it just ended. That’s it. It’s like Marvel just wanted to get the show over with so they can focus on projects that they actually cared about.
Aside from Loki and Wandavision they have been very lazy with the TV shows. If this is the effort they always planned idk why they bothered
@@chardaskiemoinknight was amazing aswell
@@Xenoray1 the first few episodes were peak but went downhill quick
I enjoyed the show as well! Could it have been better? Obviously. Was the last episode pretty bad? Yes. And is Ryan correct about how cheap it all looked? Absolutely. But I'm not always looking for movies like Infinity war. I took the parts I liked and ran with them. I loved Olivia Colman's character who was hilarious and almost every episode. I enjoyed Samuel l Jackson's character and his acting. And I really liked the banter between two black men, even if it was retconned immediately since Rhodes was a Skrull.
Like Ryan said, ultimately it's still better than a lot of other TV output even if it was the worst of the MCU streaming products.
@@Xenoray1 Moonknight Is fire like I've watched that show so many times.
This review is 100% spot on. I think one of my biggest fears now is that they'll say Rhodey has been a scrull since Civil War even though there's enough evidence to believe it had to be after Endgame. The MCU is so big, I'm afraid they'll break their own cannon just to make a story work. 😕 That would really ruin the magic for me. Fingers crossed they can improve from here and get back to better execution and storytelling.
They did. The director said he's been a Skrull since Civil War. And then implied whatever problems that creates is a mess for other people to clean up.
@@bad-people6510 the director said "he thinks" signs point to Civil War. Which means he doesn't have a diffinitive answer, it's just his thoughts on it.
@@KoreenaZumba And since this entire concept was created for the show he was responsible for, his thoughts on it should be pretty informed. The fact they'd do this without having a definitive answer is a pretty bright red flag in itself. But hey, whatever responsibility he can pawn off on somebody else, right? It's not like in an interconnected universe events and choices are supposed to have consequences.
His review is that of a straight hater nothing else . Since he had all the answers they should of hired him as a writer .
@@krucial88 Well he couldn't have done worse. How dare critics point out problems with the sacred Disney!? Consume product!
I really wanted to find out more about Fury's character and also maybe more about what happened to SHIELD or SWORD or whats up with SABER from Wandavision but nothing about that. I was really excited for this show but in the end it was pretty lackluster
I will never be able to not think of SheHulk actively making fun of the season finale plot concept. They called out their own bullshit in advance.
They really sold on the ending. The series really should’ve been 3 episodes longer instead of the 34 minute finale we got. The rest of the series was actually great, and I believe it could’ve been on the same tier as Moonknight if they didn’t fumble the final episode so damn hard. 😕
Exactly my thoughts. Look at Andor…..granted, that’s a high plateau to gaze up at, but that was 12 episodes with nary a filler to be found.
Moonknight had the same problem. Fell flat on its face in the finale
Gotta say I have zero problems with the finales of any of the MCU shows except Ms. Marvel (and I love Iman and the character so it’s not that at all) and Secret Invasion. The rest of them felt like they said what needed to be said for that season, somehow. Even She-Hulk, which ranged from great to absolute suck, had me rolling during a lot of that finale. I’m definitely not seeing Moon Knight especially having a bad one…
That ain't saying much.😂😂
Moon Knight fell so damn hard on the final episode. The rest of that series was awesome, but I still haven't gone back and watched that series again because of that final episode, and I've been a huge Moon Knight fan for almost 20 years now. The finale of both Moon Knight and Secret Invasion suffered from the same pacing problem and very lackluster and underwhelming finale after some great buildup and character development.
My most (un)favorite part was the last episode where the big plan by Fury was to give the ultimate bad guy all the power he wanted, all the while hoping that his ruse would be allowed to stay inside the power giving machine, and then on top of that hoping his character learned how to throw a fireball before the bad guy who had identical powers
Yes, the plan had a strong chance of failing, but if Fury made his plan too obvious then it wouldn't be fun to watch.
I'm highly confused. I watch the show & was absolutely blown away by how good it was! Then I get online & people are saying the show was bad. Did we watch the same show ? All the characters were compelling, action scenes were great & it barely had any humor, which kept the tone grounded. I truly don't understand any of the complaints on this show.
I wonder if cobie smulders departure has to do with her recent health scares, I hope she's OK, I love her performances
Best way to do SI would be a 45-60 min episode centered on Fury, released after each full length movie (which would each also have hints to SI). This way it could be well planned and integrated with the films while still being a Fury based arc. You could do far better CGI with the extra production time. If there would be 6 films in phase 5 you could do 7 eps of SI interspersed and released on D+. Imagine introducing Fury’s wife in a scene in the next Captain America, followed up a couple weeks later with a flashback ep telling their story. Or have an ep about finding them a home, then place Captain Marvel in deep space looking for a new planet for the Skrulls at the beginning of the Marvels. It could’ve been so much better!
Yes! Exactly 💯
I think the main problem is that they only had a few episodes to tell a story.
Olivia was such a GREAT casting! I was absolutely shocked and happy. Shes great! The Queen as a spy!
I think you and everybody else is coming down too hard on Ritson for wanting a gun. He knew about the Skrulls, he knew they could shapeshift, he knew Fury was coming for him. Nicholas J Fury is one of the very few people in the MCU that would be able to get to the President of the United States despite having the absolute BEST security in the history of the world. Like Tony Stark said, "He's a spy, he's The Spy." If I was Ritson and I knew someone was coming directly for me that had a 100% chance to get me, just DAYS after an almost successful assassination attempt, I would ask for a gun as well. You can't get any more vulnerable than being on a gurney with an IV in your arm in the middle of a hallway.
Exactly and why would he have family next to him in a foreign country, and the paranoia my family could be a Skrull and try to finish the job!
He was still in medical shock: in a serious car accident, then a firefight, then an alien reveal of his own staff. No one can be rational after that without some serious support.
The indomitable President Strongman archetype is nonsense - they are human beings too.
Slight correction, but Kyle Bradstreet wasn't the creator of Mr. Robot, but it was Sam Esmail. Bradstreet wrote nine episodes and was supervising and executive producer.
Otherwise, good video!
My favorite part was when Nick Fury dropped into the Skrull base, pulled twin MP5s out of his trench coat, said, "It's Furyin' Time." and then Furied all over the place.
You have an artist that makes something. That something becomes popular. The patron makes money out of that something, so he wants more something to sell. The patron has no idea of the craft, so he pushes the artist to an unrealistic schedule. The artist either accepts to make several uninspired, generic somethings or refuses and the patron brings a contractor to make facsimiles of the original something. This applies to movies, shows, videogames, books, almost anything.
11:36 had me laughing my ass off I love those little comedic moments in the videos . Always gives me such a good laugh , never stop doing little bits like that even the “ your mom” jokes 😂
Yeah I loved that too. It's honestly these little things that make me choose this channel over others.
I really lmaoed. 😂
You are so right about this whole series being more about "telling" than "showing". I think also...Gravik should've won!
You think the human race should have been wiped out because one guy (and a woman we never mention in this hypocritically) broke a promise? No, I'm fine with mega-Hitler losing, I just think the starting premise should have been aborted before it got to that.
If Gravik won, then that would end the MCU. How can there be other Marvel movies if humans are made extinct?
I appreciate how much credit you give to your staff. You may have been doing it this whole time, but I have really noticed it more in the recent videos.
The give away for me that Rhodes was a Skrull is the fact that he no longer had his leg supports after his spinal injury that left him as a paraplegic after the events of Civil War.
The worst part for me was fury he just seemed so powerless and weak, the other characters real shone even the moody Lt. I kept waiting for Fury to shake off the rust but he never did, he needed help to do everything and the romance thread felt cheap and thrown in. Sad..it had a lot of potential i would have rather seen a series about the parinoid agent that got choked out in the first ep. episode
Fury is getting older. I think it improved the show by making it so Fury couldn't effortlessly beat everyone.
I’ve been waiting on this review ever since the show ended. Well done ScreenCrush! Nailed every point there was to make on this show. I’m starting to wonder if Feige was replaced with a skrull. Because the MCU has been awful for the past few years.
While I see what you are saying about the look of the show and more, I think the biggest miss was the emotional weight taken out with both Talos' death and/or the lack of mourning his death. His friendship with Fury I felt was the heart of the show. So compelling.. The "We did that" discussion in the car..hilarious and heartfelt. I think had they kept the show about that friendship, the other things would have ben forgiven, because we would have been so emotionally invested in Fury's journey.
They kind of brushed over both Maria and Talos'deaths. We kind of saw a funeral for both though.
Yes, but we didn't see Fury, the protagonist, mourning or be affected or scream at the prez on the phone that Talos saved him!
Ps.. I can forgive reshoots or not enough actors to fill out the energy etc.. even plot holes, if I'm moved emotionally. Fury and Talos had me with their banter, so it was a huge missed opportunity to avoid showing us Fury's grief. The love story with his wife was nice, but it was the Bstory. So much weight fell out by dropping Talos. Even if they needed the war to continue to be waged with the skrulls for something they have in mind for the future, how cool would it have been for Talos and Fury to take out Gravik together? Maybe Giah could have gone to deal with Rhodey.. and all 3 celebrated together or 4 with Olivia Coleman. The 4 of them grabbing a drink at a pub would have been hilarious. Then varra comes in and makes up with Fury there. The president could still have been the ass he was and declared war on the skrulls.. Maybe it ends with the 5 of them in that pub watching the president's wretched speech on the news, horrified because of what said speech was about to do. We lost Maria, we didn't need to lose Talos and then ignore him too.
I screamed at the TV “Fury, don’t just leave him!“ That just felt so wrong, when he just dragged Ritson away and drove off. For a moment, I thought maybe they will circle back and Talos will survive and later confront Fury about how just leaving him to die was another example of how easily he used and discarded Skrulls. But no, they didn’t, he just dead. Like Maria. Da heck?
@modik2007 yeah. Huge bummer. If they ended instead as as I said above.. they could have toasted Maria Hill in that pub scene too. I'm just shocked neither death was mourned or even talked about. Maybe Fury's a guy who doesn't like to show emotion in public..get on with it..etc... but the audience needed to see him affected for the rest of the show to carry any emotional weight.
Love how you brought up 'fridging' for Maria Hill while Fury spent the whole series playing second fiddle to the female characters and it became the all powerful Gaia show. No name for that eh?
why are you so good at describing what I felt but didn't know why? I'm not sure if I want you in my head more or less...... but I enjoy it...... that got weird but awesome content
Zygons...Secret Invasion did in six rather tedious episodes what Doctor Who, somehow, managed to do in three episodes and still manage to have an enormous amount of catharsis at the end when the Doctor gives a speech which just flat out is still one of the best speeches not only in Doctor Who but in most of media.
Were those episodes perfect, no, but they delivered what Secret Invasion didn't, and that just shows that right now the MCU is kind of lost and not sure where it's going.
Iirc, the 'Osgood Box' episode and speech was broadcast at/near Rememberance Sunday so the message of that speech hits home even harder.
Yes, and that's another part of this. Secret Invasion needed to have a massive message to it, and it doesn't. It has set pieces and is setting up what's next rather than telling a story. The Zygon Invasion/Zygon Inversion two parter hits home hard because it has a message.
It’s worth noting that one of the points made in this video, about the lack of a grand scope, for scenes, like Rhodey addressing the council, is why studios are arguing that they should get to use AI scans of actors. That said, I think doing that is totally wrong and they should just pony up and pay more extras, but that did occur to me while I was watching this review.
I still get an uneasy feeling remembering Tom Holland talking about filming a scene where he genuinely did not know where they were supposed to be but _who else was in the scene_ because there was SO much cgi and 'we'll add that/them in later' ness going on.
I was definitely more than a little confused and felt like I missed plot somewhere. This could have been awesome but we got a lackluster extremely short thing that shouldn't have been until it was ready
The continuity with which Disney puts out one abysmal show after the other is only outmatched by their ability of destroying every single male legacy character they own.
I wanted to love this show. There’s one area where this show may have been the best in the MCU, the dialogue. They cast some GREAT actors that gave some intense conversations. Rhodey and Fury, Talos and Fury, Mr. and Mrs. Fury, Gravik’s monologues, any scene with Sonya Falsworth. The writers REALLY gave inspired dialogue scenes. That’s what hooked me. I really feel like those are what elevates this show from dumpster juice to just disappointing. But in every other area you’re right.
It’s funny that the pup used the “you can’t compare MCU adaptations to the comics” argument I’ve used myself concerning this show. But on second thought, that’s why IF the MCU decided to use the Secret Invasion title, it should’ve been an Avenger’s movie. It still couldn’t live up to the comic scale, but neither did The Infinity Saga or Civil War, and not too many people bring that up because those films still made the scale and stakes high ENOUGH to satisfy us. I think this show would’ve digested much better if it was called something else and sold as a prologue to the REAL Secret Invasion.
Nick Fury was cool enough in some scenes especially when SLJ was allowed to bring a little Jules energy to his interrogations. But in many ways, he was out-cooled often in his own show by other characters. Talos was the “heart” of it in many ways. Sonya was the cold, ruthless spy Nick was supposed to be, and Ga’ah ended up being the “muscle”. It feels like Nick was just there to have a bright idea every now and then while the rest of the cast constantly reminds us why he’s really not all that cool with a bit of douchebaggery in his past. I really wanted this show to be in my top 3, but it ended up in my bottom 3.
"Tell me about the Skrulls that fled."
"They're here."
"Who's here?"
That and how everything Gravick says comes off like something he pre-wrote and rehearsed in his edgy 14 year old phase he never grew out of. Or how everyone say exactly what they mean with no subtext or subtlety.
EPISODE 6 GOT 7% ON ROTTEN TOMATO THAT'S ACTUALLY REALLY BRUTAL🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
As a Pharmacist who gets calls from nurses cutting themselves on Glass Ampules. When I saw that every super heroes DNA was in a Glass ampule that would and do easily break, I lost my shit.
The Les Mis shot had me in stitches XD
I love your editing mate XD
It feels like all the Disney+ shows had a shared budget and everything after Loki had to pick up scraps. Secret Invasion felt like it spent all it's budget on celebrities and CGI then used paper mache sets.
naww MoonKnight, Wandavision and Hawkeye were really good too, (imho).
i enjoyed some of Ms. Marvel but it was overall kinda lacking.
Falcon and Winter Soldier was okay, shoulda prob been a film though tbh..
but the rest have been pretty weak, even if i did still enjoy watching them at the time
Yeaa they could’ve did without Emilia Clark. Her acting was very dry, her character brought nothing and I feel like drained the budget.
Something that annoyed me was how they made “the blip” the canonical term for the thanos snap passage, where every disappeared and reappeared years later. I don’t know if this event was in the comics and actually called that, but from how the movie universe made it, it was made to sound like a one-off joke, with far from home having it first name it as a throw away gag, but now it seems they’re taking it as the actual name. Of all names to stick with, they chose “the blip”, it sounds too goofy to be used in a serious manner, characters having a serious conversation, then suddenly say “blip” like it isn’t a weird thing to say.
Why not officially call it something else later on, like the event, the snap, the greatest loss in marvel’s history, something that doesn’t sound like it literally was made up bu a bunch of highschoolers.
Where did they get Frost Giant DNA? How does Giah know how to use Mantis powers? If Carol Danvers is the strongest in the MCU, Why would either fighter waste time with a Drax arm? How are they able to control their anger enough to not completely Hulk out? Does Gamora have powers? Was Ghost present at End Game? Why does the harvest transfer rings and tattoos? Wouldn't Carol Danvers or The Guardians be much better suited to find the Skrulls a home? If the entire Skrull population is already on Earth, do they really need a home?
Once they assume an identity, why do they keep the original person alive? One million host bodies to care for must be a huge responsibility.
I actually liked this show. I didn’t think too hard about the Rhodey thing. He has a life long injury..he probably has to go to the doctors for check ups, so they could have taken him at anytime simply during a doctors appointment. If they change into an Avenger at anytime wouldn’t the real ones be aware of another them walking around? They’d have to get an Avenger in a fight one on one with a Skrull (the did it with War Machine easily) and be incapacitated and tucked away, so it’s not smart to call any one of them in. I doubt Sam Wilson, Clint Barton, or Peter Quil could take on a Skrull one on one. The ONLY thing I’m pissed about was Talos’ death.. but that’s because I have a crush on Ben Mendelsohn and want to see him on my screen as much as possible 😂
Once again I binge watch a show, think it's fine, then go online to see someone else tell me why it sucked. I see your points but I guess I didn't go into it with some great big huge expectation. I also binged so I had no debate about what was next in my head, I just let the story be presented to me.
They should have saved this for after the Multiverse Saga, have an entire Skrull Saga, that would have been badass. I honestly like the show a lot tho
It problem come out in 2030😭
No thank you the skrulls skrulling for too long is too 80s cheese for me. I'd prefer lil tastes here or there so we don't Mephisto them
Your hatred of the “give me a gun line” is insane. Who would want to be unarmed in that situation
Bruh…you have hired SECRET SERVICE they’re better with a gun then you are😂😂so I’d rather leave myself without a gun then those trained professionals
"Gimme your gun, GODDAMMIT!"
I can already see this quote becoming this era's ultimate bad Marvel meme since "I'm the Juggernaut, bitch!" 🤣🤣🤣
It was a good watch. There has been a lot of Invasion slander. Was it the best no. But, like all shows, it will help lead up to the next phases
I thought the series was fine. I was intrigued by the skrull drama, and liked that we had 2 skrull reveals. Giah is a cool new character- saw the ending coming when she was revealed as a super skrull too. Kevin went for a spectacular ending, but went too far overboard with giving the 2 skrulls the powers of almost every character in the mcu. Though i think its a sneaky way to keep all the powers in play if the actors leave.
Not a perfect series but I enjoyed it and would have loved to have more episodes.
we 100% will never see Giah again though
@@gallowayow8672 I could see her at least going off to be a hero the skrulls if they get off earth.
Your previz explanation at the end, was a masterclass in what people don't understand, and why the fans don't get what they want. VERY good job.
The MCU should get you and your crew to write for them. Especially Doug.
The Disney+ series should focus on original stories while the movies should adapt major comic book storylines. There are too many things happening on Disney+ that will leave people confused when the movies come around. For example, Maria Hill.
They want you to watch it all though.
A cool concept I just came up with is what if in the end of Secret Invasion it really did come to world war 3 in the mcu universe and then Sam Wilson the new Capt. America would have to fight in that war to really become Captain America like Steve Rogers did in his first movie. That would be so cool and Thunderbolt Ross's Red Hulk but also Skrulls could be a part of Capt. America a brave new world. What do you think?
Good analysis Ryan, although Falsworth is NOT Umbridge. Umbridge was actually evil. Falsworth believes ends justify the means but she actually is not evil. Note: if she’s MEANT to be evil, why is she helping Nick?
Where do we go from here? As you said, on paper, it’s got some good points. So I’m going to relish some great character moments and hope that some of the bad story elements are swept away.
Great character moments:
1) Everything with Falsworth - we need her back.
2) Fury & Varra - that ‘beloved’ was gorgeous
Story points to keep:
1) Rhodey/ Everett Ross were Skulls for a while. As it’s left open, I’m going to say post End-Game for Rhodey (based on brace wearing). Ross needs to be post Wakanda Forever because Skrulls helping Wakanda makes no sense.
2) Fury fathered the Harvest and his stash is now gone. Perfect Batman move. But the DNA lying around is all you need is NOPE.
3) G’iah is a Super Skrull. But she’s gonna need some limitations
4) President declaring open season on aliens. That’s stupid and realistic. Fix by end of this era.
Plot points to fix:
1) All you need is superhero DNA - we need that has to be limited. G’iah can’t be sustained at he lower level
2) The needless death of Maria Hill. That was pointless and beneath the character. If you can’t fix this, we need to have see Nick deal with the emotional fallout - because he didn’t need the motivation for SI. But perhaps we can get some character growth out of it. Which, obvious fridging= lazy but we need value out of it if we can’t put that genie back in the bottle.
At the end of the day, we’re going to need a Secret Invasion recap at some point that fixes the worst of it and moves us past this.
I really disagree with the people who are angry at Maria HIll being killed. Yes, I loved her character and it was sad to see her go. But her dying made the threat of the Skrulls real and made Fury more alone. The story wouldn't have worked as well if he had a sidekick he could trust with him the whole way. Killing Maria Hill advanced the story in an important way.
Also, Falsworth might be trying to do good, but she tortures and kills like an evil person. At best, she has grey morality.
If Kevin and Marvel hired Ryan to consult, the multiverse would be in a better place.
i liked it....i give the show about a 8/10
That baby Drax arm is a classic for all time… was that more than taking the model for his arm and shrinking it down to size?.. probably not, but it’s not much more than that, and they shrank it past that uncanny valley into monster status (not cool monster either)
- in the other times we have seen the Skrulls, they would shape shift into humans their own size. Going from child to adult to petite woman to obese man didn't make sense base upon the rules we became accustomed to.
- Skrulls can't tell when other Skrulls are around?
- how did they get DNA from people that weren't at the battle (Abomination and Ghost) and from people that were dusted (Thanos and his friends)?
- how can non-genetic powers be transfered through DNA?
- why would humans be shocked over aliens on their planet when New Asgard is a thing?
- I'm glad the Skrulls kept the people they kidnapped clean shaven and clean laundry.
- Rhodey chewing out a general was comically bad.
I love the seriousness of the show and the somewhat gore killings. I really hope this new all time low doesn’t motivate to insert even more silliness in future projects
I liked the battle of the super skrulls. But they could have swapped the harvest for the chemical Olivia Coleman used on the skrull. She also felt like the only one getting anything done.
14:11 - "Gravik was on his way to becoming one of the best villians in this franchise! Kingsley Ben-Adir gave this guy confidence, grace, and brutality." ... And Kenergy! Can't forget the Kenergy!
11:35 I like how the bleep is poorly timed, and doesn’t actually bleep 🤬 the curse word. 😂
"Olivia Coleman is the MCU's Dolores Umbridge" is kinda meta, given the actress who plays Umbridge took over Coleman's role on The Crown.
13:53 that machine kind of reminds me of that one Magneto used on that politician. Turned straight to water
The director doesn't care...he just revealed himself in an interview
Revealed himself...as a skrull?
@@mattvalin1958 true af
The MCU just hasn’t been the same after Endgame.
The MCU shouldn't be the same after Endgame. 😅
it shouldn't be
I think OP meant quality wise
@@rubencabral1838 Quality wise, my least favorite MCU projects were still in Phase 1 & Phase 2.
Iron man 3 and Thor the dark world were cheeks.
A lot of good points here (the final fight make me smack my forehead so much it hurt after haha)...but if nothing else, this video was great for the fertile ground it supplied for the Mermaid Man "EVIL!" clip. Kudos!
I was surfing Facebook when the Rhodey mirror sequence happened and I was in the dark about what was gonna happen. lol
This show was great and entertaining, Samuel did a great job!!...now the issue is how does this roll into the next phase without hiccups
Well not all of us think the show was bad.... I don't understand what was so wrong with it. I loved it!
Same here! I think it's the best Disney + show the mcu has produced. I liked that it barely had any comedy in it. I was honestly amazed at how great it was.
Is funny how they emphasize how Giah plan to trick Gravik was STUPID, when if anything it was the best use of a Skrull ability to disguise themself so far, it would make no sence for Fury to face Gravik himself since he is no match (and he is no Batman) so send Giah to trick him into turning her into a Super Skrull was clever, especially because it shows what a trickster is supose to do, trick their oponent, so she presenting Fury as weak, defeated, non threatening and slowly diying while positioning herself in the right place and leting Gravik think he got what he whanted and that he is in control was CLEVER, the ensuing fight was a gamble in her part and the same CGI fight between two guys with the same power set that is so common in superhero movies but still the more exiting part of the episode considering that the rest was boring.
Combination of mixing real world politics into entertainment and hiring incompetent writers is what ruined MCU.
I maintain the the BIGGEST issue with these MCU shows is that they seemed to be forced to be 6 short episodes. I've been watching The Boys and I'm astounded at the episode length and the amount of story they are able to tell (and tell it well) in just 8 episodes. I honestly wish the D+ shows would just end.
My dude, making a root canal longer doesn't make it less painful. This wasn't forced to be six short episodes, they had more footage they threw out to MAKE it shorter than it was. And it's still paced overwhelmingly at glacial speed. The length isn't the problem. The problem was it was written and directed by people with no talent who didn't give a fuck.
So Disney know if they keep the episode length down per season that’s less writers working on the show it’s one thing the WGA are currently fighting against. It’s a thing more episodes mean more writers. It also means new upcoming writers get less chance to learn from from more seasoned writers because these mini rooms that are now running don’t allow for that learning process. Studios also want to have “interns on set” as opposed to writers on set which means anyone can edit scripts on set. So season length is crucial not just for telling story but for HOW it’s told and by WHOM. The studios can’t win. Or we will have inexperienced writers stuck at junior levels not being given the chance to learn and AI coming in churning out soulless scripts.
@@laurameakin But it's already written terribly. And not just the TV shows, the movies too. Multiverse of Madness might be the worst written thing of all time. Its only competition is Loki, and that was written by the same guy. She-Hulk was one long therapy session where the writers got to pat themselves on the back while reeeing at imaginary enemies. The writers are not faultless in the failings. What are new guys going to learn from people who are already awful?
Disney plus shows end? Ok so imma wait 2 years for a movie with a 2 hour screen time that’s just as rushed if not more instead of enjoying both? Nah bruh it really is just down to what’s good I like the fact that I can have many marvel series to choose to watch except they just have to be good that’s it.
With a million skrulls on the loose, anyone accused of a crime can just say it was a skrull that did it
In the episode where Gravik kills G'iah, everyone immediately assumed that she got into the super skrull machine to survive because "Well, you don't just cast Emilia Clarke to be in 3 episodes of a mini-series right? She can't be dead". But I thought "This is a show about shape-shifting aliens, just because a character dies, doesn't mean we will never see their face again". And I thought Gravik would get the idea to have another Skrull take G'iah's appearance and go back to Talos to accomplish 2 things: keep Talos from finding out his daughter was killed, and feed information back to Gravik. Sad to say that some random dude had a better idea than a "professional hollywood writer".
It's funny because when Gravik shoots G'iah, I saw people complaining about a female character being killed. But when G'iah survives and Talos dies, I didn't see those same people complaining anymore.
WRONG! The flaw in your logic is the Secret Invasion episodes were mostly less than 30 minutes long!! Name one Loki episode less than 30 minutes?! 2.5 to 3 hours of storytelling is missing!!
Dear Screencrush, Hello Friend...
Sam Esmail is actually the creator of "Mr. Robot."
Also the head writer.
Not to take away from Kyle Bradstreet and his contribution to that show.
I highly, highly recommend that show.
Kyle wrote some amazing episodes. "Brave Traveler" in season 1 is a standout.
But he is not the creator of the show.
You flopped that easy Google search.
Sam Esmail is a genius.
Rhodey was NOT replaced in Civil War. He bled RED in Endgame. When their DNA gets outside their bodies, it reverts back. He was replaced in 2023 (MCU time) at the earliest (He wasn't wearing his braces in his scene in "The Falcon and The Winter Soldier").
Between shows and movies the only 4 to have a meaningful impact on the path forward have been wandavision/doctorstrange and loki/antman . Why try to establish the big bads early on then try to get us to care about minor characters with little to no impact on the bigger picture later...... Its the opposite of what made the early phases great.
27:30 I noticed this too. During the show a news headline is saying Russia was going to attack Ukraine and one other country nearby and I had to take a second to process that cause its such recent events.
Imagine for a second that you're tasked with making a spy thriller for Marvel. And imagine that it will star Nick Fury, so you already have a strategic genius in the script. And imagine also that the villains of this spy thriller are shape-shifting aliens, the hands-down easiest thing you can do to generate surprise twists in a spy thriller (so easy that literally every MI movie has relied on their impossible perfect face masks like a crutch). And now also ALSO imagine that this show will be named after an already well-received comic run that's basically done all the heavy lifting for you about twice, maybe even 3x over if you count the first Ultimates run. And NOW...imagine you fail to use ANY OF THAT effectively. That's Secret Invasion.
I like that you're shouting out individuals on your team!
A film or TV show actually pays the same amount of residuals out whether you have 1 actor or 10 in a scene. With actors there is a residual amount (think of a pie) that is split between all of them, the more they are in the film or TV the more they get. Day or weekly rates are different that is actual pay and that could be why you would use less actors.
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It took us 3 months to finish this 6 show series. We had no motivation to watch until Loki came out, so we begrudgingly muscled through episodes 5 and 6 just so we could start Loki