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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.พ. 2019
- Rachel Nichols, Paul Pierce and Tracy McGrady of The Jump react to comments made by Charlotte Hornets owner and Chicago Bulls legend Michael Jordan about Oklahoma City Thunder guard Russell Westbrook and Houston Rockets guard James Harden and their impressive stats. They then do a deep dive on the state of stats in the 2018-19 NBA, and discuss how they compare to old-school players from Wilt Chamberlain to Kobe Bryant.
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I like how all the mid 2000s players make sure they keep Kobe name alive and show respect because this generation tries to forget
I swear the media has a vendetta against Kobe Bryant, the GOAT in my humble opinion.
@Nolay Austin Get over here!!
They put Kobe down so they can bring their God LBJ up
Because he cooked they ass lmaoooo
Ted Grover yes they do the disrespect for Kobe is unreal
U can't compare Kobe and harden, Kobe is in a completely different level
Especially defensively!
Harden is much better
@@christophteichmann4741 wake up kid
@@danieljandreas8392 what did Kobe better? Besides from punching Mike Bibby in the Playoffs and getting the call because of rigged games? Rings dont count if you win them in LA.
All the advanced stats say that Harden is much better. Kobe was never even close to being the best player in the NBA. In the beginning (1996) Jordan, Puppen, Hakeem and Malone were the best, than Shaq and Duncan, Nowitzki in the mid 2000s and than lebron.
He should have 0 mvps and zero defensiv all-nba First Team selections. His defensiv bpm shows that he was never a good defender. In his best years only slightly above average. Not even better than harden.
So what was Kobe so good at?
He was not even clutch. He sucked at elemination games like game 7 in 2010.
Kobe can score 100 and still be the best defensive player on the court in today's game no kidding, he's crazy when it comes to basketball
🐐🐐🐐
For real. I rewatched that Toronto game where he scored 81 and I saw him playing hard defense, full effort type stuff. I looked back to see how many points he had at that point - 79. I've heard people cutting LeBron some slack for not playing hard defense because (paraphrasing multiple people's attitude/statements) "the offense is built around him and when you have to score 30 a game you gotta take it a little easy on the other side." Kobe going all out on defense when he already has 79 points but it's acceptable for LeBron to not play that much defense in a must-win game because he scored 25, gtfo. Kobe plays harder defense when he has 79 than LeBron does when he has 19 to the point that in a must-win game Kuzma has to literally shove his ass and force him to play D. As a Laker fan I don't care if LeBron gets burnt on D but ffs at least try, especially if you want to be in there with the great Lakers like Kobe, Kareem, Magic, etc and many people already assume that you're just here for Hollywood; put in that Kobe effort then you can have your murals and goat discussions and people won't be shouting "We want Kobe" during free-throws
So you overrated him. I don't think he can do that in front of Kawahi or Durant. Let's be clear. The only two differences in today's game is just that there are more three-point shooting and there is usually only on big men on court. However, there are still many great defensive team and perimeter defender. I don't think Kobe will easily score 40 points above great defenders such as Draymond, Kawahi, Siekem, Paul George and so on. As to defend, there are so many mismatches now, I don't think he can guard bigger players such as Gainnis, Durant, George. What I don't like Kobe's fans ate that they always only talk about Kobe's great. They talk about Kobe scores 81points, 3 consecutive games scoring over 60points. Sure, that is impressive. However, in Kobe's career. He is just a mediocre average25 points player with only 45%of shooting. So if he has so many great shooting games, you can imagine, he must has even more bad games. Keep in mind, he never shoots over 47% in his career. There are tons of players who shoot better than him in his era, averages more points than him but been said not a great scorer as Kobe.
@@nicholas1053
Nowadays game, you really need more energy on offense than before. Today's game are faster than before. The opponent's size are smaller in the rim but bigger on perimeter so I say LeBron really needs more energy than Kobe on offense. And he does carry more offensive workloads and does more than Kobe. He averages more points, more assists than Kobe. And I don't really like you compare prime Kobe Bryant to the 15th and 16th season, the 33,34years old LeBron. At the age of 34, kobe is also not playing very good defense too though I admit he might not be that passive as LeBron. But I do believe prime LeBron, Miami LeBron is better defensively than Kobe. Remember he knockdown MVP Derrick Rose and Paul George. Remember before when none of the Cavs center can guard Dwight Howard but he take the charge and sucessfully guarded him in some games.
The overrated talks is through the roof 🤣
the mutual respect between tmac n kobe simply moves me
kobe new tmac was real deal but sadly he was so prone to trauma
they was brothers 4 life
They was good friends coming into the league
They were best mates outside of basketball
Yeah, he said Kobe but T-Mac would score a 100 as well.
Kobe out scored the entire Mavs team 62-61 in 3Qs.
His best game ever. He had 56 after 3 in the 81 point game.
@@yahuahismyrock4932 he might have dropped more pts against the mavs. Maybe even beat them by himself
@@yahuahismyrock4932 He had 55 in the second half alone of that 81 point game; 27 in the 3rd and 28 in the 4th. Insane. Both of those games was like something out of 2K or NBA Live lol
That is unreal!
An amazing performance. If it was Harden he would have played all 12min of the 4th. The stat padding has gotten silly.
He scored 81 and 62 in 3 Quarters while getting poked in his eyes, hand checked, got smacked all over his arms while driving the ball to the rim. Can you imagine if he got Hardens treatment. Stop it!!
Paul Singh klay got 60 in three quarters but he catches fire like nobody else.
What the hell you talking about? NBA stop hand checking in 94 lol, stop the revisionist history you acting like kobe played in the 80s or something.
Rob jr Fr
the 80's were actually soft...
@@robjr6983 yes true but bodily contact in terms of defense was allowed. Now you can't even put your body on the player without even getting a foul.
Paul Pierce hate when T Mac talk about Kobe🤣🤣🤧
Haha he's so salty xD
Pierce whole offensive movement looks nasty and slow 😂😂😂
@@chubbsfigueroa not hating on kobe though but indeed PAUL PIERCE WAS NASTY AND SLOW but it has done its job so we could say its effective
@@njprince9717 oh yeah no doubt. No hate on Pierce at all because he could take over games in his prime...hence "the truth."
@@chubbsfigueroa also very useful and effective
You guys forgot kwame and kobe score 82 points combined against the raptors 💪🏼
Arnel Nopal 😂
Lmao😂
He coming for your a$$ next 😂
@@porkadobo5035 lmao fax mans is on a rampage
I love how much tmac respects KOBE
Yeah, players know what Kobe was and the fact that they came up in the league together gives him more insight. Kobe would be God level in todays league, crazy to think about honestly.
I love Tmac, always keeping it real and not kissing ass like everyone else in the media!
Kobe had 60 in his last game. 100 is definitely within reach for Kobe.
Wilt did it in a rough times. having to average 48min/game. Kobe almost died on that game. :) but hell yeah kobe gave as a memory worthy of a game ending career.
@@MrDotaleavers i mean to be fair Wilt was laos the only black dude playing with nine 5'11 white midgets on the court with him ;D
@@TheGhostofMrArthurs nba today is the easiest nba game ever played. Even Luca said, its easier to score here than in europe. I cant argue with what he is doing now.
Kobe would score 100 and still lock his man up, dont forget his 9 time all NBA first team defensive team selections, 12 overall....
@deadly steele your dumb if u think that
@deadly steele he came off the bench his first few years, and lost his last few years due to injuries. That shows you stats dont tell the whole story fool
@deadly steele Kobe was averaging 27.9 points before he went down, and is averaging 29.1 points removing the years where his dumbass coach benched him. Stats don't tell the whole story mate
LeBron had 6 though lmao. Y'all disrespect Kobe man.
@deadly steele Kobe averaged 35 a game when he had his best season. Stop it.
TMac's respect and praise on Kobe is unbelievable, him being one of the best offensive player and take note he was also a lockdown defender he is a 2 way player. In today's game he is like Paul George but T Mac is more flashy tho George can be but he is playing with care now despite being traumatize with that nasty injury. Handsdown on T Mac for always recognizing the GOAT Kobe, real recognizes real he faced a young to Prime Kobe thats why he noticed how Scary he was back then he will hunt you down defensively and offensively, right now theres no player as much as they were back then the love for the game the hunger the urge to lockdown the best opponent. None theres none.
And who in the playoffs did Kobe "lock down" exactly? I'll wait.
@@turtleislandlac1490 Chris Paul in 2011 comes immediately to mind lol whatchu mean?! The dude was a defensive monster.
@@XxLeoRiversxX Chris Paul averaged 22 ppg and 11.5 apg while shooting 54.5 FG% in the 2011 series vs the Lakers. Tell me again how Kobe shut him down?
I ve scored a 100 points with Kobe on 2K so Tracy’s comment checks out.
I once scored 90 points with Kobe in 2k playing 8 minute quarters, and still lost. But it was close.
you should turn of that game or play like a normal people
120+ with Ai fuk outta here with your weak shit
I scored 75 with Frobe not even the mamba in all star team up in 20 minutes
No that's not a fair comparison.....defense in 2K on rookie mode is better than this bullshit we see in the real NBA lol
He scored 81. What’s 19 more 👀🤯
half of NBA players can't even reach 19 PPG XDD
19 more is the answer.
19 more from fts xD
Kinda like saying Devin Booker scored 70 what's 12 more
81 and didn’t play the entire game.
Kobe: (Modern Record's) 27 40+ points in a season. 9 straight 40+ points in a season. 136 40+ point games. 27 50+ point games. 10 50+ points in a season. 30+ in a Q twice. 55 points in a half. 2882 points in a season. 35.4 ppg for season. 978 field goals in a season. 81 points in a game.(41 mins played) 62 in 3 Q outscored opposing team score. 40+ ppg for a month 4x(nba record) 7 60+ point games.(would be 13 but did not play 4th Q's. 33648 points in career. 4 straight 50+ point games. 4 straight 45+ pont games. 431 30+ point games. 40 against every nba arena. Oldest player to 30+ 9 straight point games. Oldest player to 40+ in 4 straight point games. Etc etc!!
Let me add, kobe, did all this in the West. In his scoring rampage prime had smush, kwame and luke as starters... and, kobe had injuries.. and.. kobe did not have an athletic edge.
Skill and will..
Those are some confusing bunched up together stats, but thanks for the facts.
I understood it all. And the disrespect he gets makes me wanna blow up the NBA Media 😠
T-Mac said it all! Those words went straight out of his mouth!
"Harden can't do that with the era that we played in."
LET EM KNOW TMAC, stop disrespecting the mamba. If he could score 81 back then tf stopping him from taking more shots vs worse defenders now... Also the 63 through quarters game, he could've hit 100 there too
Handchecking wasn't allowed when Kobe scored 81
@@blazesbrother5140 but defense was actually played...
@@onlyoncamera0 LeBron was averaging 30+ back then. But is now averaging 28 which shows the defense was similar
@@blazesbrother5140 don't even mind these kobetards. They think the late 2000s are different than now and comparable to the 90s. Fucking delusional dipshits.
@ It was difffernet. The point totals and averages show it lol. The 2010 championship. I dont think either team broke 100 pts once
Kobe could have scored 100 back then if Phil stopped benching him in the third quarter.
And risk injury by playing him the 4th while they were up 20? Lol no
Rusty while harden played in the 4th just to get 30pts even in a blowout game 🤣
Facts
he couldve easily had 100 in the 81point game against TOR if his 1stHalf of that game was half as good as the 2ndHalf #FACTz💯
Sometimes it was even at halftime
I just came to hear them praise my guy Kobe. I enjoyed it. Thank you. 👋🏼👋🏼
Rest In Peace Kobe🐐 We all know how important you was and still are to us. One of the hardest working person I have ever seen.❤❤❤
And definitely one of the most talented player I've ever seen.
Kobe would be ridiculous in this era! He had a 50+ point streak, was outscoring TEAMS (62 in 3 qtrs), dropped 81, and had 60 in his last game after tons of injuries and mileage! He did this in a tougher era plus a slower pace with less spacing/3s. Kobe was arguably the most skilled player ever with the best arsenal of moves. In this new, Kobe would average 40+ and put up ridiculous numbers! He needs more respect on his name.
dude today's era is the strongest ever. Sick of nostalgia kids. The athletes today are better the skill level has never been higher and it's true in 95% of sports
@@jayv8068 No its not dummy. Its the weakest era. The rules make it that way. The players aren't better. It easy to look better when you take defense out of the equation.
@@jayv8068 This era is the easiest to score in. The pace is higher than it's been in 30+ years. The explosion in the amount of 3s has created more spacing than ever. The change of the handcheck rule, plus this new "freedom of movement" rule that was implemented over the offseason, has caused this. Efficiency is up league wide due to this. Teams are averaging 111 ppg this year. It was 97 ppg 15 years ago. All these facts point to this being an easier era. Tmac, Pierce and other players have said so. Vince is still playing and has stated that this era is easier. I've been watching the nba for 20 years and have seen the change. HOFers have said it's easier so idk where you're getting this idea that it's "nostalgia kids" saying this. It's anyone who has followed the game.
@@Seymour_Says You make some good points, and I can concede it's easier to score, but I still think the skill level of individual players has never been higher - but I guess that's a seperate argument
@@jayv8068 That's fair. Skill level and talent MIGHT be up, but fundamentals and technique are on the decline. Players are entering the league less prepared than in the past and some never reach their potential/stunt their growth by making the jump too early or not developing their games properly.
*bruh, kobe scored 60 points in his last game, bruised and battered up at age 37, 20 years into the league with not much left in his body. PRIME KOBE could easily drop 100 in today's era.* Nothing beats the mid 90's to mid 2000's basketball. We were blessed.
John N ahhh nostalgia!!!! Forget the fact that mid 2000s faced the same criticism because of high school players
We really were blessed, that will always be my favorite era of ball.
Looool
In 8 days since he died ,i’ve seen more videos about Kobe than i ever did , youtube really don’t want me to recover from what i am going through, my heart sinks at every clips you recommend me , so stop please
Exactly
The game Kobe dropped 81, he was still red hot after the 3rd quarter. Imagine what would’ve happened in the 4th quarter. I don’t think we will ever see anyone go past Kobe’s career high ever in the NBA. Even in today’s era
The only 2 players that have a chance is Harden or Klay
@@masonjar9920 Devin Booker drop 70
Don't forget about Devin Booker 70 point
Kobe scored 60 in his last game, post-torn Achilles tear, torn rotator cuff, and fractured tibia at the age 38.
He was ridiculously inefficient that game and the other team wasn't exactly trying to shut him down. But okay.
Tavian Thomas you CLEARLY have no idea what you are talking about. Kobe shot 50 times and made 22 shots, thats shooting 44% which is almost half. Hes shot attempt to points are close because when u get foulded they dont count those as a shot attempt unless its a and1, kobe went to the line 12 times and only missed 2 attempts, kobe shot 44 % from the field and had only 2 turnovers. The only place he didnt shot good was at the 3point line, but again his overall fg% was 44 percent. He actually had a efficient game.
Tavian Thomas 50% dick head
@@AP90x he dnt kno wtf hes talkin about
Frankie Russell Big Old Facts!!
If a 38 year old Kobe with half of his offensive arsenal can get 60 in this era what do you think a prime locked in Kobe would do?
Please, that game was a total farce. They force fed him the ball every possession and he took 50 (fifty!) shots. It was not a normal game. During the season Bryant averaged 17 per game on a laughable 35% shooting. Tons of players could score at least 60 if they shot the ball every single possession.
@@finewinedaily4997 well thats what harden is doing every game now lol. taking 15+ threes a game and taking half of teams shots lol
Fine Wine Daily ain’t that what harden doing every game tho?
Fine Wine Daily kinda like what harden is doing? Hes shooting 43% for the season chucking up 25-30 shots per game with 15 threes. Matter of fact, Harden had almost the same exact game against the knicks in January when he had 61. Took almost 40 shots, took 20 threes and had 25FTA. Prime kobe shooting that many attempts in todays NBA could score 100. Easily.
Whats funny is that kobe scored 81 points the year after the NBA banned hand-checking. 🤷🏼♂️
Fine Wine Daily nigga his body was beat torn Achilles , rotator cuff etc tf you want him to do? He was 38 my guy stop fkn hating
Kobe would def drop 100 in today’s game
Yup & so as Micheal Jordan
Mad respect for T-Mac's IQ 💯
KOBE really could score 100 in today's game. I think quite easily too!!
He was just in the NBA not too long ago, you do know that right? Lmaooooo🤔I'm lost
Prime kobe played in this era 9 years ago. Stop it please!!!
@backdraft1420 lmao the new mj Kobe Bryant😂
@@HPcelui stop what!? Ya boy missed the playoffs too many times sorry, try again
HP MTL stop commenting this shit everywhere you dumbass kid. You werent even alive in 2010. Completely different era they played physical defense.
I'm a lebron fan, and I can say Kobe could definitely hit a fat streak and hit a 100 in today's NBA.
What does lebron have to do with kobe scoring 100. Smh
Prince T
Because most Lebron fans will never say anything positive about Kobe (and vice versa), I actually appreciate the disclaimer.
@@joshvolpe1641 Yeah that's what I was going for. I'm all for loving your favourite player but I believe real basketball fans will always appreciate greatness and don't need to trash other great players to elevate their favourite
Kobe>Klay>Bron
Shuggy .. im goat mj fan. mj 300
Harden don't play Defense Kobe did.
Harden will post up someone 5’6 and he’ll flop like someone shot him. GTFOH 😂
jbenz1990 lmao hahhaha
truth
Lol real shit bro. Sad part is you’ve never seen harden post up before. That man has no post game at all smh
Tyrel Guy ehh cause the post is a niche in the nba now and it’s not like he can draw all his bullshit fouls in the post 😂😂
Prime Kobe.. ABSOLUTELY. Today’s game is weak as hell. Kobe would get at least 30+ free throws with how soft todays game is 😂
James Harden only gets 11.6 free throw attempts per game and he is way more crafty than kobe with drawing contact
The King not nearly as agreed I’ve tho
and bunch of steals and block i guess.. compared to LeBitch who cant defense
Y’all need to put some Respek on Kobe’s name
HAZZARD damn you still drinking and typing 😂😂
Big Facts
@HAZZARD yeah LeStat is way too much overrated
Paul Pierce is jealous
@TheRealist 811 facctssss
They would be standing around watching him do it. This man dropped 60 in his last game years removed from his prime because of his injuries. Prime Kobe would drop 120 if he wanted to.
Stop the cap
In Kobe's younger days, he's just as fierce in defense as he was on offense. It's just later on that age caught up with him a little that he felt the need to focus more on offense to carry his team's offensive load.
I agree with him. Nowadays NBA players are allergic to defense so I think Kobe in his prime could definitely drop 100 if not close
Listen dude watch the games...tose folks from 20 years ago played awful offense so it was easier to guard them bc ppl were unskilled...i hate this old beats new stuff
It's not the players that are allergic to defense, it's the league, everything is a foul now
Kobe played in this era why are people acting like he was playing way back like Jordan
@@DragonoftheDarknessFlame nah everybody in Kobe era is either retired or about to retire
People are stupid they act like kobe retired in 1998. They forgot that prime Kobe played in this era 9 years ago.
WIlt became the low-key GOAT. The greatest regular season player ever. Definitely the greatest athlete. Banging 20,000 women is hard to do.
In some ways he was the goat😂
all facts hahahaha
think about how beautiful this world use to be that you can have sex with 20k women basically all the women in the world and you didnt even have to worry about STDs. man fuck this 21st century and shit lol. I bet wilt had a blast in the 60s 70s 80s
@@rusty111fire aids started spreading late 80s. not 70s
jdmnsxr 6 No aids starting spreading mid 80s and I meant STD’s existed in the 70s and was prevelant, 70s was the hippie era STD’s were everywhere
*Imagine Tracy & Kobe in the same team. Best Duo ever!*
Wow Mcgrady was really showing Kobe the love and appreciation long before he left us
Last of a dying breed the real NBA died when Kobe retired.
Amen
Cosign
Austin Thompson shut the fuck up nigga
@@therealnoodles7638
Basketball competitiveness died when Kobe did retire. So basketball did die in terms of that.
@@ohhhyeahhh1174 no it didn't. Your favourite team/player is just not winning, that's why you're saying that. It will always be competitive but the best team will always win.
Lakers 100-99 Warriors
Curry - 25 Durant - 25
Thompson - 25 Cousins - 24
Bryant - 100
Lakers 150-120 Warriors
Kobe 100
Curry - 25 Durant - 25
Thompson - 25 Cousins - 24
Shaq would not let himself score 0 pts
300 bro
😂😂😂😂
I watch a lot of these videos with the two and I love how t mac broke down the amount of attempts players take now versus their day. They all shot like Kobe did.
All stats now.. Kobe had both and a lot more! stats and leadership! passion! killed instinct in court!
Phil stopped kobe from his streak so Shaq could get his competitive fire back when he came back from injury
I’d have done the same - Kobe scored 38 that night , they hardly kept the ball from him
@@spikeannoyed go watch the interview he scored 38 on purpose and didn't go 4 40 on purpose
G&D Vlogz lol brilliant - I love how Kobe’s mind works
Phil also stopped him from scoring 80+ points against the mavericks.
@@MrC77 yes he was shooting much better than he did in Toronto
Didn't old Kobe score 60 without any legs just about 3 years ago? He had Harden-type numbers as well, shot 22-50 and 6-21 from three. Of course prime Kobe could drop 100 if he tried in today's era.
*37 year old
@f wam like Westbrook last 4 years
@f wam I find it funny how Kobe went 22-50 drop 60 and harden will do that at age 28 lmao lls prime Kobe scoring 100 easily
Harden doesn’t even take 50 shots a game stop hating
50 shots..
ask Klay to take 50 shots..
oh! Klay only needs 3 quarters and not even take 30 shots..
“hella famous in china”☠️😂
"I thought i was famous until i got [to china] with Kobe." - LeBron James, 2008
Lmao, I scrolled down to see if someone mentioned that! 😂😂
Nba is soft now
Tracy is right they couldn't do that in there era's
shut up people like you are so annoying
@@dutdut2.052 but its facts
dut dut 2.0
Kids who think that Lebron, and other modern stars, are the best ever need to wake up. Theyre not even in the same league as stars of the past. MJ and Kobe in their primes today would be averaging 40-50 easy on these chumps in the NBA.
finsfan90 I see your a football fan so you especially should know today’s athletes are the best. Try watching 70s or 80s NFL. it’s unwatchable.
@@finsfan90 Kobe and lebron literally faced each other during the years McGrady is referring to😂😂😂 you act like they didn’t play in the same era at all
Prime Kobe in today's Nba 41.2/7/5
I agree. Prime Kobe probably average more ppg.
Prime kobe played in this era 9 years ago. Stop overating this man, he's great but cmon man. In 2010 he was in his prime and young KD and Lebron still average more than him.
HP MTL If Harden is doing this LOL
@@HPcelui Kobe's true prime was around 2004-2009. He was still effective and absolutely elite till 2013 and his achilles injury. He averaged 35 for a season damn near being double and triple teamed every single game till they surrounded him with more talent. 9 years ago was 2010. While he was still effective, he was already exiting his physical prime in 2010.
Facts 😂😂😂😂 love kobe but this facts. Same shit niggas did with mj in the 2000s. Saying he can average 50 n shit like stfu
Kobe is the greatest scorer of all time period.. Nobody got hot like Kobe.. 4 straight 50 point games.. 81 points.. 62 in 3 quarters on the Mavs.. averaged 35 in a season.. Number 3 all time scorer !! Even with all these threes these boys not passing Kobe.. Cmon now and some 15 year old will say he shot this many shots or this percent I just laugh at the ignorance... He won his whole career with it more then LeBron with what he does.. And played with bums for years before Gasol who doesn't compare to having Wade or Kyrie..
Kobe is a Legend #MambaMentality
Real fuckin talk 💯💯💯💯
MJ held the scoring totals for 11 seasons, highest career averages in points both in regular and post-season while shooting 50%, so no. MJ still is the greatest scorer. Only player not named Wilt Chamberlain to hit the 3000-point season, he averaged 37.1ppg. Oh, he didn't just score, he was an animal on defense as well getting at least 200 steals and 100 blocks that same season and continued to do so the next season averaging 35ppg, then *back-to-back* 200stls/blcks, points and steals leader, MVP and DPOY, Allstar MVP, slam dunk champ... Whew!
Okay so is he the greatest scorer of all time or is he the 3rd greatest scorer of all time cuz you said both......
Let me clear something up for u
Kobe shot 32.9% from 3 which is equal to 49% from 2 and he actualy shot 48% from 2 so now let's say he shot all his fukin shots from 3,just all of them without exception without any 2p shot
He would still fkin average the same number of points or littttle more...
Hey, T-MAC, if Kobe can do it, you can as well.
tmac scored 62 points vs wizards only because he was trippin
99-00 season (first major steps toward handchecking removal)
Handchecking had been slowed down to a small degree in the late 90s, but not anywhere close to the massive change that was introduced starting in 99/00.
"In the backcourt, there is no contact with hands and forearms by defenders. In the frontcourt, there is no contact with hands and forearms by defenders except below the free throw line extended in which case the defender may only use his forearm."
So by this point, handchecking is for all intents and purposed removed - "There is no contact with hands" and "the defender may only use his forearm" below the FT line extended.
00-01 season - new rules that further decreased amount of contact allowed by a defender
"No contact with either hands or forearms by defenders except in the frontcourt below the free throw line extended in which case the defender may use his forearm only."
"Neither the offensive player nor the defender will be allowed to dislodge or displace a player who has legally obtained a position."
"Defender may not use his forearm, shoulder, hip or hand to reroute or hold-up an offensive player going from point A to Point B or one who is attempting to come around a legal screen set by another offensive player."
"Slowing or impeding the progress of the screener by grabbing, clutching, holding “chucking” or “wrapping up” is prohibited."
"On the weakside, defenders must remain on the weakside outside the paint unless (i) they are double-teaming the ball, (ii) picking up a free cutter or (iii) closely guarding an offensive player."
01-02 season - Addition of illegal defensive 3 seconds rules to weaken defenses even more.
"A new defensive three-second rule will prohibit a defensive player from remaining in the lane for more than three consecutive seconds without closely guarding an offensive player."
This rule makes it much easier to drive in the lane, because bigs can no longer camp out in the lane and deter drives to the basket like they did in the 80s and 90s.
04-05 season
"New rules were introduced to curtail hand-checking, clarify blocking fouls and call defensive three seconds to open up the game."
"The truth is, it makes the game [where] players have to be more skillful. Nowadays, literally anybody can get out there and get to the basket and you can't touch anybody. Back then, if guys put their hands on you, you had to have the skill to be able to go both ways, change direction, post up, you had to have a mid-range game because you didn't want to go all the way to the basket because you would get knocked ass over tea kettle. So I think playing the game back then required MUCH MORE SKILL."
--Kobe Bryant on 80/90s basketball
I’m sure Jalen Rose agrees
Kenlyn W lol kobe droped dem 81 on that hairline
LMAO let Jalen live. I'm sure he wasn't even guarding kobe for the most part but it's funny to just put all the blame on him LOOL I love seeing his reaction
😂😂😂😂😂
@@hakshustletv check the stats. Of all the Raptors players, kobe dropped the most on Jalen do ur hw buddy
He only had 18 dropped on him........ per quarter 😂
Tmac is being humble. A prime Tmac could score 100 as well.
Nah. He barely broke 60.
prime T-mac is a taller prime kobe, kobe said it himself
He would probably score 75-85 but not 100
I can’t believe it has been a decade since Kobe scored 81pts.
Love Paul Pierce's accolades they show at 3:02 lmao
Lol I just caught that
Kobe Bryant definitely could if he scored 81 then he could score 100 points
J Lee mj drop 200
If a 5'11 Allen Iverson could drop 60 points in a game or 48 Points against a PRIME Shaq AND Kobe in the Finals, Imagine what kind of numbers he would drop into todays weak game. Iverson and Kobe both averaged 33+ppg in 2006. I honestly believe they would be 40ppg players in this day and age.
I agree with T-Mac - Kobe would have Wilt's scoring record in todays game. Prime Iverson, T-Mac, Shaq, Kobe would be dropping monster numbers in 2019.
Facts.
Everyone you mentioned, plus Jordan could have either come close, or broken Wilt's record the way the game is played nowadays.
That’s what I’m saying!! A.I would destroy today’s game 👏🏾
Same with LeBron. He averaged 31 ppg in 2006 along with Iverson and Kobe, 21 years old LeBron was a God at finishing rims.
Just imagine if he was as selfish as them, he could still be scoring 35 ppg today at age 34. He just passes a lot. Plus all that physical beating took a toll a lot on him so he’s always cruising to avoid injuries. Even in just chill mode he gets 25 ppg a night
@Me Three they played in a more defensive league. Scoring 33+ a game. In today's offensive game it's not hard to say they would average 38 40ppg
Paul Pierce: “Was once pantsed by Ron Artest” 😂
Kobe could score 100 in today's League even MJ.
Pierce is just still salty about that Final's against Kobe 😂
Man how can I agree even more 😂
@@elizerclairisier6625 in the game kobe scored 81 he played 41 minutes in the game wilt scored 100 he played 48.5
@@mackenziemurrell963 false it was only 47 mins.
Man could you imagine Kobe, Tmac, Iverson in this era?? All 3 could average 40-45 pts a game in today's game
It would be nasty A.i. Would stay at the line
Can you imagine MJ in this era of no defense...
Like MJ said, in 1 vs 1, maybe only Kobe could bet him... because Kobe stole all his moves...
They would all shoot 55%
i think A.I could ankle break whole team before scoring in today's game LOL
Ray Allen said it best himself in today Era Mj would score 45 ppg. I like lebron but if those players was in today Era and prime Kobe with there footwork and AI handles they would literally make it looks easily cause they would abuse the rules
You're disrespectful Rachel. Never speak of Kobe and Harden in the same sentence. Harden is garbage while Kobe is great. Kobe played defense, Harden never did. Kobe's got rings, Harden doesn't.
And that’s a fact jack
Facts, that is why it is hard to take ESPN serious. I stopped watching after thay comment can't even take a Harden and Kobe comparison serious
Actually, that was her point if you had comprehension skills. Just because Harden has more 30+ points, doesn’t mean he’s better than Kobe. That was exactly her point.
Kobe my favorite athlete of all time and no way harden is better than Kobe but Harden is great as well almost as good offensively but defensively kobes a higher level
HAZZARD neither is harden so what’s your point hater
3:02 “was once pantsed by ron artest”
I really enjoy Tracy McGrady’s insight and comments. He has a high basketball IQ.
Kobe is a Mount Rushmore player and IMO the most skilled basketball player EVER. How quickly they forget man it makes me sick.
Kobe can score 100pt in today game, if he play like Harden without trying on D
skill level has neve rbeen higher than today's era. stop living in the past
Jayden V what a stupidass comment lmao
@@Amgbenz0 I'm not saying anyone has shit on Kobe. He's one of the greats. But there are more greats now than ever before. Leonard, Lebron, Steph Curry, Durant, Harden, Giannis and many others are great players,, how many of those guys were around when kobe was in his prime?
Jayden V kobe had duncan, prime d wade, tmac, paul pierce(super underrated), garnett, nash, melo, shaq, and a bunch of other great players.. bron came in 03 and he was playing at an elite level early in his career.. stop acting like there was no great players in that era
Kobe always tried on D tho. Always.
If you watch Iverson played, whenever he drove to the basket, he was knocked down hard on the floor, yet he still scored 30 per game. Imagine in today’s game, you can’t touch him.
People hates and downplays Kobe because they know Kobe is a one tough son of a gun (if not the toughest in NBA basketball that I've ever seen) but I think they do that because deep down they respected him and what he had giving the game.
Ps: Kobe would totally score 100 if he does all the traveling/free throws Harden is doing.
It's a stat-padding league now. Jordan could average a triple double for his career if he really wanted to, same with Kobe. In my opinion, today's guys think that if they put up triple doubles they're absolved from any criticism, especially if they don't win a ring.
"oh he's gotta do all that for them to win. Look at what this guy is doing. It's never been done."
Yeah, taking rebounds away from your big man and assists away from your point guard has never been done the way it has today.
Lebron, Westbrook, Harden are perfect examples. Then they wonder why their teams struggle. You disrupt their flow to the game.
"But he averages 35/10/10. GOAT."
Yeah, at the expense of his teammates not being productive.
Facts. Stat loving fanboys are going to disagree and say you’re “hating.” And their logic doesn’t add up. They’ll be quick to say Harden and Westbrook at stat padders but then praise lebron for doing the same shit.
CellGeist exactly. Also, everyone loves to bash the Warriors, and I’m a Lakers fan, but, the reason why they’re all All-Stars, is because they all play their positions/role so damn well that the team excels. KD isn’t out here trying to get 10-15 assists a game and 10+ rebounds. Draymond is trying to score 30 a game. Sure, there’s instances that the team needs that but they’re not trying to do it on a nightly basis.
Richy Rich we’ll look back at this era in 20 years and call it the stat padding era. There’s a reason why great players’ numbers go down when they play with Lebron. He’s taking them out of their game just to stuff the stat sheet.
The Replay I totally understand where you are coming from but real talk coaches would not let him play like that if they didn’t think it was the best way to win. Plus he gets defensive rebounds with no expense to the team. The thunders win rate when Russ scores a thriller double is OVER 80%
ThilanNana it’s just come playoff time those teammates won’t have a rhythm. Teams defend better and all of a sudden you have to rely on a guy who hasn’t had a consistent role in an offense and shit hits the fan. Look at HOU last year in the playoffs. Missed however many 3s. Then, you look at the Warriors and see how cohesive and well they know their role and is the reason why they’re always winning.
Kobe could indeed . Today’s NBA has few Assassins , and the rip your heart mentality like Kobe . Kyrie and Russell are only superstars with this instinct
Willie Thomas Luka
Willie Thomas Luka
Willie Thomas Kawhi Leonard is an assassin. Did you watch his cold blooded game wonder against the Nets yesterday?
No He couldn't in 2009 and 2010 stop being delusional
Willie Thomas whoa buddy don’t forget about Steph. People forget about his offense because of KD. The year of his second mvp he averaged 30 a game and played all four quarters in half the games.
Tmac always showing love to kobe bean mad respect 🔥💯
3:03 “Was once pantsed by Ron Artest”
I could see Kobe averaging 100 for at least a month.
MrGenexxx dumbass
@Nolay Austin fuck around and average it for the season
Prime Kobe was averaging 50 ppg in a 12 game stretch so you never know
Kobe average 50 with Wilt
On God 💪🏾💯
no doubt! He got the mamba mentality that nba players don't today.
Sammy SK the amount of replies that are going to come from kyrie fans
Mamba mentality is bull shit
@@chadwilliams2116 huh?
Chad Williams Fat L for this guy
Yeah he’ll score 100 for sure with 3 OT and 42/250 shooting. Klay and Curry way better
Great conversation 👍
He scored 42 in the first half in 2003. Let that sink in. He was on pace for 84. Back when the game was a lot slower and more physical.
And finally someone said this !!!!
None of these boys can do what they are doing now back then when t-Mac Kobe Vince AI where playing bruh I swear to god bruh thank you t-Mac for saying this ,I been saying this shit for YEARSS!!
Man paul is just salty about kobe
I know... that was weird
@Phuong aint saying he 's hating. he just has a hard time to swallow he not on the same level of kobe
@Phuong could be just me lol
Jia Li facts prob had nightmares
T-MAC said it all. Preach bro! Man he is so spot on with what he had to say about being able to play defense on players these days.
Modern NBA sucks. Everyone just runs around chucking up 3s with no defense cause of rules. Lame.
Jordan Posvar don’t blame the rules for the 3s, blame curry. you simply cannot keep up with twos
Old iso ball is trash and hard to watch too!!!
shut up boomer
Im fine with 3s but they should make the defense better, not batter it with their rules
yea they killed the most exciting part of the game, the 1v1
Perfect MJ answer!! Got to luv it!!
Kobe had 41pts... with 4 min left to play in The SECOND QUARTER! That's Crazy. He had that type of fire power.
Kobe with a broken finger, ruptured Achilles > James Harden
Fight me
It’s crazy how much respect Kobe gets from his peers. Not the same for Lebron.
the GOAT says it how it is.
Peaple that say its Bullshit that the NBA had harder D back then *they don't know basketball*
They scoring 140 every game now!!! that was rare back then even a couple years ago...
Yeah games were looking like 99-108 or 108-101 type shit
Robin common sense the free throw difference. 28 free throws like come on for only one player?
I remember 79-83, or 87-74 in some games, pretty much at minimum, why did the NAB nerf defense so much, it is like these days all people care about is scoring, and that considers you the best in the NBA, because you can score the ball,
That description for Mcgrady 😂 1:24
LOL! Paul Pierce's description "Was once pantsed by Ron Artest." Niceee!!!
Kobe could put up 150 in today’s soft ass nba. He would have 20 free throw attempts a game.
Brixzus Jaeger only if they gave hum fair treatment for all the fouling he received on a daily basis
On 400 shots. Straight chucker
Nothing but facts in this comment
Kids these days have no idea what Kobe was. Kobe would score as many points as he wanted, only MJ and Kobe.
Facts!
Let's not forget, Kobe played the game at both ends, while Harden is allergic to defense. With the rule change, all the flopping foul calls he gets, the traveling/carrying he gets away with (look at the highlight at 2:11 with his one-handed cross-over), the offensive fouls he gets away with (2:23 pushing Lanzo off), AND not playing defense... shit he would be bouncing around the league avg 15 points at best with 7 turn-overs a game in Kobe's era.
Ur buggin
Shoutout to this queen for speaking and shoutout to the fellas for letting her speak to get her point across. I love that a woman can talk about sports with the fellas and actually get her point across!
did anybody else read was "once pantsed by ron artest"under paul pierce when he was talkin lol
Jordan, kobe, AND THEN LBJ. dude has to pass kobe to even compare to Jordan!
M M Lebron had love and Kyrie and he had wade and bosh
LeBron passed Kobe as soon as he won his 2nd ring because then he had just as many FMVPs and 4x as many MVPs, and he never played with anyone even close to Prime Shaq or a coach anywhere near the level of Phil.
The only argument for Kobe over LeBron is that Shaq gift-wrapped 3 rings for him so he has *5 haha. Without a HOF center and Phil, Kobe missed the playoffs in his prime multiple times and got bounced in the first round multiple times.
LeBron took a team of nobodies to a finals in his 2nd playoffs at 22 (beating the champion pistons that had dismantled the ‘04 Lakers with Kobe, Shaq, Malone, and Payton). LeBron has made the finals 8 straight years and taken 3 of the top 10 worst supporting casts ever to a finals. He has proven that regardless of who’s on his team and who’s coaching, he makes his team a contender every year, Kobe and MJ literally never even won a single playoff SERIES without Phil AND a HOF teammate.
Nahh kobe is hella shit
@M M You're a child, I won't even attempt to correct you.......
@@johnkestner Being fat and stupid is no way to go through life my man......Very verbose for someone that doesn't have a F'en clue as to what their talking about.
Well yeah put up 81 way back then so 19more
In today's NBA yeah not stretch at all... black mamba killer assassin .....
Kobe get the hardest dirty plays from opponent, and he still can make awesome champion season
that hella famous in china description gets me all the time
You better be quiet TMAC Lebron fans are about to get in their feelings 😂😂😂
Lol And lol you’re the only one bringing up Lebron rent free bitch
Bro G exactly he lowkey likes bron
Add MJ FANS
you just got Bro G and *CAUTIION* in their feelings.
@@brog1456 💯
Kobe is the GOAT!
MJ forever bro, i don't even know how people can make it a debate
what brand glasses is pierce wearing?
i love Tmac and Pierce, two inteligent guy on and offcourt