Oh definitely. I love when they try to get all political and then fight each other with nobody losing their jobs. It's not boxing/MMA or Wrestling receipts (and some keep their job despite infamous botches to actually injure opponent). I also think of glitchy, overpriced sports video games that get outdated in a year as well as have whales buy their predatory currency. Some comments also say they did this to flip her discounted tickets for a profit. So much for women's history month.
@@MrVariant I'm sure you wouldn't mind them getting political if they were on your side of things. Funny how folks want people to stay out of politics when they can't do that themselves. I guess "freedom of speech for me but not for you" is your motto. LOL
@jackjohnson8244 you don't know me nor did I demand anything about how people should act. Just looks bad to tell people to celebrate women's history month and then pull something like this on an old woman.
@@MrVariant I do know it bothers you when someone exercises their freedom of speech to talk about politics. That's what you posted. You don't know that they "pulled something" on this old lady because you don't know any of the facts. And they don't "tell people to celebrate" anything. They celebrate the occasion and if you are there, you can sit in your seat and ignore it or not. No one forces anyone to participate. Seems your politics are blinding you to the reality of MULTIPLE situations. I think it "looks bad" to state things as fact when you have no clue what's really going on.
Same with music artists, actors and any types of players people choose to idolize , these type of folks care only when it comes to service for good publicity. People need to stop fooling themselves and investing so much without return in life and in the wrong direction of focus .
I'd say she did something (probably relatively minor but still against the league rules), the league asked her to be banned and the Nuggets did not stand up for her
Yeah the negative PR is more damaging than any monetary gain from selling the seat at a new rate doesn’t wash for me. If a player or ref was touched I’d like to hear it from them.
I’m a huge New Jersey Devils fan, we have a crazy fan who goes to every game, and has been known to assault women and also has followed the players home, the fact that this fan hasn’t been banned is crazy, and I feel terrible for this woman who got banned for no reason Edit: I am told he’s permanently banned from Prudential Center now, such a relief
The truth from from the nuggets front office. If you want to sell those tickets for money then just be honest and say that...dont trash someone's reputation like you're in the 3rd grade. I hope they never win anything again and i dont even follow the sport.
It's definitely over money. She probably had a good rate for the seats because she was going to every game even when they were awful. I remember seeing her as far back as the 90s when winning over 20 games was a good year for the Nuggets. Now they can gouge some new season ticket holder and make slightly more money, which is all that matters to the organization.
not how season tickets work. The rates change every year. Now most teams/leagues allow season tickets holders first purchase or first right of refusal to be nice but they can at anytime tell you to fuck off. They don't even need a reason. So while it kinda sucks if you are her, sell all that shit and move on. The team clearly doesn't want her there. @@johnprager662
@Jared-qf1tjI think he's saying that season ticket prices don't get locked in like an interest rate for a house. The team sets the prices each year and the season ticket holders pay that amount, or forfeit their tickets. So it's not a certainty this woman had her tickets for dirt cheap prices.
Funny how all this happens the season AFTER Nuggets win their first championship and becomes a relevant/dominant team in the league. I don't think a 32 year season ticket holder would even think about hurting the players of the team she supported so fervently. The allegations just doesn't match the situation. Nuggets organization are definitely suss for this.
Same thing happened to Clipper Darrell the year the Clippers traded for CP3. I think they let him back in after he cried on TV and the bad publicity they got, but they quickly forgot how loyal he was once they were finally able to sell tickets
She is paying the same as the seat next to hers you don't get a locked in price team wins price goes up you pay team loses price goes down you pay here in !n season tix in 2009 were 1600 for two in the lower level with all the perks now those same seats are 7800 a season for two less I guarantee you she pays a ton for those seats in Denver and u most always had to buy a pair unless its like amend lone seats no one bought after sales have begun for a while what I'm sayimg is the next person that gets those will pay the same she did
They’re forcing out a season ticket holder who paid probly 10% of what they can charge people now that they are a relevant franchise. Absolutely sickening and I hope she sues, wins a boatload, and is given back her tickets that rightfully belong to her.
If you've been a season ticket holder long enough, they grandfather your prices or try to negotiate seating. So her season ticket seats were pennies on the dollar for the kronkies.
@bjknochel2055 don't even man. 2010 they started the "stimulus" package where they would increase your rates for club or first level but designate you two additional seats in section 350 or 312 or keep your rates the same (grandfather pricing). I got club level season tickets, section 242, row 2 seats 3 and 4. 16 years now amigo. Prices have gone up about $150 a season vs new season ticket holders paying 2K plus your season pricing. Tell me your ticket rep, or I can take you to club level and we can wait outside of box 22 and ask Stan next time he's there.
I played for the Nuggets GLeague affiliate team, when I tell you she would NOT touch or strike anyone especially ball players she loves and cheers for! Something odd is missing from this story and it isn’t her side!
I agree with you,just seems to me Denver is changing so much,my brother got out after spending most of his life there. By the way,I also enjoy minor league basketball,I went to many games here in Vegas years ago!
What doesn’t make sense is that it took 32 years to ban her for inappropriate conduct. When did it start, and where is the evidence? These arenas have state of the art camera all over and would have certainly caught something based on where she sits.
Lmao have you seen the size of ball arena? It would take hundreds of cameras with remarkably good optical zoom just to be able to see what’s going on somewhere, assuming you know where to look before it happens.
It's her life, she can do whatever she wants with it. You know people have wasted their lives on much worst things as killings, stealing, cheating.... so what she does something thing she loves. who are you or anyone to judge her.
@@ReprezentSacramento Or maybe people have beliefs that don't align with your own. Some people were actually taught not to idolize. Only 2 that deserves that glory is God and Jesus. Idolizing celebrities, athletes, politicians is a sin. And it will almost never reward you with anything that can actually be substantiated. So tired of people like you claiming we have no right to judge. Same type of person to tell us not to worry about LGBTQ people parading through our streets naked.
When the Nuggets don’t win another championship this year, people are going to call it the Curse of Vicky. Until they do right by her, the franchise will be doomed.
The nuggets are most definitely winning the championship again this year, you're immensely foolish to relate this with the actual basketball, the nuggets are by far the best and most dominant team, they are winning the championship this year again for sure, regardless of what plebs like you say
Anyone here ever been a season ticket holder for a team that went from mediocre/bad to really good in a couple years? I have, and trust when I say that once the team starts making more money and the ticket values go up, they will try anything and everything to squeeze you. If you call in to complain or negotiate, they put someone on the phone who will try to get you to either pay up, or forfeit your tickets. (The Sacramento Kings box office tried to get me to change my season tickets to row R in the upper level because "it would have better concession access." The Kings tried to cop out and claim that their season ticket sales are being run by a 3rd party, but I was never able to find this 3rd parties name. Eventually, I caved in and discontinued my season tickets for this year. The price increase was just too much and I'd rather spend that money and time with my son. But yeah, if you have ever been a season ticket holder, especially one with primo seats, then you know that they will squeeze you and push you to spend spend spend, or gtfo. (I did speak with a supervisor of customer relations and they smoothed things over and offered me some free perks, but I still discontinued my tickets.)
Loyal fan follows trash franchise for 32 years. Trash franchise is no longer trash and dumps loyal fan for higher ticket prices. It's like a high school movie villain. Ok, it's not about the money it's how they are treating her. Bring her aside and tell her we can't give you tickets like this anymore. To lie about her character to get her out SO you can charge more money for her ticket is a terrible look. Very disturbing.
@jackjohnson8244 just like it sucks that they are making accusations about her and offered no proof for it. The lawyer asked for the proof. They declined. You must have missed that part. Such is life of a contrarian on the Internet.
@@ChristisKing117 You don't think common people lie? And did you see how much merch she has? And how many pictures she has with players? That's no common lady. She's wealthy. But even if she wasn't, common people aren't above lying or acting inappropriate.
they are the ones that wanted her banned lol, don't take a puff piece for granted, lady seems totally off her marbles and probably did a lot of things to have this happen, no way a PR department would approve this unless she just kept crossing the line
@@rsplatpcscroll further down..there is an actual player who posted that said she would never do anything like they are claiming. 32 years and they only speak up now. Come on. I was skeptical too..like who.is this lady, but after reading from that actul nuggets player..yah, it's clear it's made up and they wanted to sell her tickets and make more money.
They need to prove that she did these "acts." And they didn't pull her tickets just for the price hike. That is rude and unfair. She has spent 32 years of her life devoted to that franchise. Why would she risk that and go public with her story?
Starting with CU going to paid cable channels back in the 90's, I have seen so many instances of major sports institutions selling out "The Game" for the sake of more money. The sad fact is: business is business. People need to stop forking out major dollars just to watch sports events: it's all become a scam.
The nuggets aren’t just gonna pull her tickets for money that makes absolutely no sense. She still gets charged for her tickets every year and the prices go up for everyone, they would be guaranteed money. She had to be yelling at refs and players and get banned
@@fastage101 Then there should be plenty of video to support that and, if she did, then she did, and deserves to be punished. But, even a story about her simply being outbid by rich out-of-towners doesn't look good for sports franchises who still need that extra revenue from the plebs who buy merchandise and pay for viewing subscriptions. It's better optics if it looks like she did it to herself.
Not a good look for the Nuggets. I'm not saying she did or didn't do what they are accusing her of but if a fan this dedicated gets banned it is very distasteful to the rest of us who support this team. She deserves the benefit of the doubt. If they have the accusations on camera it's understandable but from what I understand they don't.
I’m very disappointed how the team owners have treated this poor sweet loving dedicated woman . It shows very poor character on those money hungry greedy owners . Show her the respect she deserves and use your heart and empathy to this woman .
Idk if it's really about the money tbh. At best they could probably get an extra $50k out of the tickets...season ticket holders don't really get discounts like they used to. The money difference would be smaller than a drop in the bucket for KSE. I think she bugged someone with enough power to get her banned, and since the team is really good they'll have no problem selling the seats.
No way. Anyone this is obsessed is unwell. It becomes their life. They think they are part of the team and then they overstep the bounds of how they should interact with staff, the players, and the refs. Then when they are removed after numerous warnings, they play victim.
@canyoudigthisfood there is no real reason required, nba is a business and business dont care about your feelings and whatever is moral, they care about money
@canyoudigthisfood they dont need her lol they are not obligated to support her and nba is a pretty sensitive organisation anyways considering theyll kick anyone who paid wit their hard earned money for talking back to players
The Nuggets players called her their mom and this is how the team treats her? Well, until they let Vicki Ray back in to Nuggets games, I hereby curse the Nuggets to never win another NBA Championship!
Just a reminder, large corporations couldn't care less about you. They are only in this for the money and most of them don't deserve your loyalty. I personally quit sports of any kind decades ago and am much happier and wealthier for it.
Every business is only in it for the money. We pay them through ticket sales, merch and viewership to entertain us. This has nothing to do with that. The organization and the players have different roles, Hopefully the players see this and make things right.
Lmao most of those players have not been with the nuggets that long and their loyalty is to their career and the team not some random single fans they barely know.
@@acornsucks2111 Do you care about her? You have no idea if she did or didn't do what she's accused of. I don't think you are showing that you care about her, I think you just care about having an opinion on a random topic.
GIVE HER THE SEAT BACK! Why would she, after all these years, all of a sudden start being violent nevertheless breaking any rules? Especially when you consider her age. Denver Nuggets management are pathetic people.
last may huh? sounds like the kroenke group figured the nuggets were going to go deep in the playoffs and decided to remove her so they can sell her discounted tickets at a much higher rate. its especially sad considering a deserving super fan like herself didnt even get to be there for the nuggets' one and only championship (so far)
Read your comment and was wondering where you got "last May" from. I watched the video three times over after and she was banned mid-February (1:27) so it was more recent. They are definitely looking to upsell her tickets this postseason for a profit now they have a championship under their belt.
We have season tickets for the AVS and used to have season tickets for the Nuggets. Every season they raise the price and you have the option to buy. She's not locked in to a lower price.
Now, does that even make sense? Think about it🤔: Vicky’s Ongoing Fandom is more Valuable than The Increase in Season Tickets. Her Presence Generates more Interests, which generates more money( advertising/promotion ). So, She must have done SOMETHING, to get her BANNED.
@@karapuckett1440 You should not have to state The Obvious, but We are Dealing with Some Gullible People Here. I mean, What Professional Sports Team, Locks-In Ticket Prices, Year after Year, for ANY INDIVIDUAL? Ticket Prices usually Goes Up for EVERYBODY, and definitely Go Up when, THE TEAM GETS BETTER!
I gathered in one minute that she should be banned. her obsession has taken over and she probably feels like more than a fan when she goes to a game. thing would have just gotten worse and worse
I hope this can be resolved I hate seeing this as a Denver Nuggets Fan and makes me sad that we would do this to our own fan that has dedicated so much time to our team.
Here is what i think happened nba players have alot of home games per season i just think at some point she was a burden to one of them (Maybe even one of the stars) Every home game she is looking for interaction with them high fives Staying late after games season after season to the point where it was beyond normal for them and uncomfortable a complaint came in and they took action. If i was them i would just make season ticket available to her that are away from the players no staying late give her a good price thats sway from the players.
The look on the players face she high fived says it all. They don’t want her there. Super fans equal borderline stalkers and never see anything wrong with their behavior
@@qatarworldcupwinnermessi You're right we don't know what happened! All that would have to be done is show the video evidence, and there would be no reasonable doubt, and everyone could just move on! They're probably NOT going to do that, let's guess why!
Corporate DOES NOT care about one woman's ticket money. I'm not saying she did anything wrong, but it's highly likely "something" happened(and probably more than once). Otherwise, those in charge would have no reason to even look into her seating, etc. One woman's tickets are not worth it for Corporate to deal with the media. There's definitely more to this story.
@melissagrant4178 obviously never happened. She pre-ordered her tickets years in advance when the nuggets sucked. So she got them cheap. Now that every game is a sell out they are losing money on her seats. So they went this route
She either 1. Has a seat some corporate shill wants and it was taken from her, 2. is an entitled season ticket holder who said the wrong thing to the wrong member of the organization.
Revoking her tickets to sell for more money doesn't make sense. What would they gain, a few more thousand bucks for a multi million dollar organization?
James Harden has a great interview saying he realized that NBA is a "Business". Imagine being 72 years old spending your life on idolizing something that has no worth. Curry would be traded from Warriors if he went %15 from 3 pt line. This is a business. Lesson here kids: Focus on your life goals, stop idolizing cheap stuff and wasting your life.
Why so many comments hating on this woman ? she got a dream collection of basketball , one many of us can only fantasy with , i like her pasion and hope she can come back to the stadium and team she loves
I'm a Spurs fan and been to several games in Denver. I've seen her numerous times and she's a total sweetheart! I say reinstate her and let her do what she loves doing best and that's support the Nuggets! Shame the NBA has did her wrong.
Karma is a thing. Denver is a top championship contender this year but they're not going to win if they treat their fans this way. Nuggets have some good hearted players, hopefully they see this and make it right for such a devoted fan. Edit: I've seen Nuggets also take care of some special olympics kids in the same breath of time. It may not have been fair for me to judge them off one bad deed by their front office while neglecting their good. I hope Mrs.Ray is treated well and given free seat at the finals when she watches her team repeat. Denver needs to do right by her.
it remains unclear what exactly happened, and exactly how, when, why... I wouldn't be so quick to make any judgements about this simply because I don't know enough about what the hell happened
A similar situation for a Sixers fan but the difference was that they showed footage of him cursing out opposing players and hitting someone (he’s a short, fat older man & doctor 😂) and they also listed all the other bad things he did. The Sixers backed it up, the Nuggets have not.
Can you not see an unhealthy obsession right in front of your eyes? Superfans get like this all the time. It starts out innocent, then they cross a line with a player or staff and then they play victim. Eminem didn’t write “Stan” for nuthin…
@@raz318 Even if this is partially true(which it probably is), she is 72. No point in banning her when she has been a fan for decades. It's as simple as that.
Yep, we are seeing the love of money being the root of all evil more and more. The extremely wealthy can’t seem to be satisfied even though they could never manage to spend all their money in several lifetimes. Capitalism without a conscience is unsustainable.
This should be a lesson for you die hard fans. Players don't care about you, they don't even know you are alive. They don't want your support they want your money. Unfortunately, most of you won't ever learn that lesson.
Plenty of the players loved Vicki, sent her cards when she had a stroke, and even the official team twitter sent out a get well soon when she was in the hospital. Youre full of shit and don't know the story, but she was well loved by the fans, players, and even organization for decades.
I don't know why you're blaming the players when it's clearly the organization that screwed her over. The players showed her a lot of love over the years
This is exactly why the bible tells people not to worship idols This woman gave over 30 years of her life to something that doesn't care about her at all
"I couldn't hit a player in the face because his face is way up here and my hand is way down here *giggle*"... cut to video of her high-fiving players from the stands as they file in - if you can high-five them, you can hit their faces
I hate the NBA. I spent all of elementary, Jr high, and high school worshipping the league and spending way too much money on their crap. Then I realized the league doesn't care at all about it's fans and I need to spend my energy on something I got a return on.
I felt the same way about the NFL, specifically the Cowboys. I bled Blue and Silver. I haven't watched a game since September 2017 when they decided to kneel for the Anthem as a team, including JJ...how dare they disrespect the country that made them their money. I missed it for the first season afterward but now I am happy with my choice. Why invest time and energy into something that doesn't care about you.
I'm not taking sides but she isn't a fan but a fanatic and i could see her getting too hot over something or stalking are the only things i could think of that make any sense.
Nobody complained about her behavior when the team was 11-71
Or 17-65
Yeah her money was great when the team was dead-ass.
Exactly
Hahahaha
Lol 100% all good, we love u Vicki!!! ....Denver wins a chip and she's gotta tone it down. All of the sudden she's a vicious repeat offender. 😂
Don't idolize players. And remember sports owners care about your money not you.
Oh definitely. I love when they try to get all political and then fight each other with nobody losing their jobs. It's not boxing/MMA or Wrestling receipts (and some keep their job despite infamous botches to actually injure opponent). I also think of glitchy, overpriced sports video games that get outdated in a year as well as have whales buy their predatory currency. Some comments also say they did this to flip her discounted tickets for a profit. So much for women's history month.
Uh don't idolize anyone...
@@MrVariant I'm sure you wouldn't mind them getting political if they were on your side of things. Funny how folks want people to stay out of politics when they can't do that themselves. I guess "freedom of speech for me but not for you" is your motto. LOL
@jackjohnson8244 you don't know me nor did I demand anything about how people should act. Just looks bad to tell people to celebrate women's history month and then pull something like this on an old woman.
@@MrVariant I do know it bothers you when someone exercises their freedom of speech to talk about politics. That's what you posted.
You don't know that they "pulled something" on this old lady because you don't know any of the facts. And they don't "tell people to celebrate" anything. They celebrate the occasion and if you are there, you can sit in your seat and ignore it or not. No one forces anyone to participate.
Seems your politics are blinding you to the reality of MULTIPLE situations.
I think it "looks bad" to state things as fact when you have no clue what's really going on.
This just goes to show you that the team you care so deeply about doesn't care about you at all.
Exactly!
You hit the nail right on the head Cody 👍
Same with music artists, actors and any types of players people choose to idolize , these type of folks care only when it comes to service for good publicity. People need to stop fooling themselves and investing so much without return in life and in the wrong direction of focus .
She’s had season tickets before a lot of their current player were even born
Wow, There is always a FINE LINE between SUPR FAN and BAT $HIT CRAZY... She may have crossed over.
If she actually touches a ref or a player, it would be all over ESPN
She would’ve been in jail also
Someone's not telling the truth here
I'd say she did something (probably relatively minor but still against the league rules), the league asked her to be banned and the Nuggets did not stand up for her
The rich of course 😂
Yeah, VICKY!
Yeah, something doesn't add up 🤔
I know why she would want to lie, not sure why the other side would tho? Her reasoning of "money" isnt a BIG enough ond
The Raptors gave their super fan an NBA championship ring.🤦🏾♂️
Nav is the GOAT
This!!
Wow! That's cool!
The sikh guy?
It's Drake of course he gets a ring
I have a pretty strong suspicion there is more to this story.
I was thinking the exact same thing!
Guarantee it
Yeah the negative PR is more damaging than any monetary gain from selling the seat at a new rate doesn’t wash for me. If a player or ref was touched I’d like to hear it from them.
That happens when you give a vague response.
Doubtful. Businesses will ban people for the slightest transgression or even just "risk."
She hit the nail on the head when she said they wanted her tickets to sell for an astronomically higher price.
This IS their #1 fan, and look how they treat her. This is despicable.
That's professional sports for you.
James Dolan of Knicks do this to fans all the time
@@SnowDog0 yup like the charles Oakley incident. Yup
I bet u they support politicians that let dangerous criminals go free
What makes you think she is the only hardcore fan of the Nuggets? you must be a Lakers fan salty about the Nuggz
All it takes is a player to say something. Imagine if Jokic went to the Nuggets and demanded she be allowed back. Would happen in a heartbeat
Jokic prefer to have his horses instead 😂
@@ItsDeSeanOfficiallol Noooo
I’m a huge New Jersey Devils fan, we have a crazy fan who goes to every game, and has been known to assault women and also has followed the players home, the fact that this fan hasn’t been banned is crazy, and I feel terrible for this woman who got banned for no reason
Edit: I am told he’s permanently banned from Prudential Center now, such a relief
It looks like those players she really was close to have already retired or no longer connected to the Nuggets organization.
@@rtlthemusician5598is that bowman
Something is really missing from this story.
The truth from from the nuggets front office. If you want to sell those tickets for money then just be honest and say that...dont trash someone's reputation like you're in the 3rd grade. I hope they never win anything again and i dont even follow the sport.
It's definitely over money. She probably had a good rate for the seats because she was going to every game even when they were awful. I remember seeing her as far back as the 90s when winning over 20 games was a good year for the Nuggets. Now they can gouge some new season ticket holder and make slightly more money, which is all that matters to the organization.
not how season tickets work. The rates change every year. Now most teams/leagues allow season tickets holders first purchase or first right of refusal to be nice but they can at anytime tell you to fuck off. They don't even need a reason. So while it kinda sucks if you are her, sell all that shit and move on. The team clearly doesn't want her there. @@johnprager662
@@johnprager662that’s not how seat prices are determined.
@Jared-qf1tjI think he's saying that season ticket prices don't get locked in like an interest rate for a house. The team sets the prices each year and the season ticket holders pay that amount, or forfeit their tickets. So it's not a certainty this woman had her tickets for dirt cheap prices.
Funny how all this happens the season AFTER Nuggets win their first championship and becomes a relevant/dominant team in the league. I don't think a 32 year season ticket holder would even think about hurting the players of the team she supported so fervently. The allegations just doesn't match the situation. Nuggets organization are definitely suss for this.
Sounds like she getting jacked
Same thing happened to Clipper Darrell the year the Clippers traded for CP3. I think they let him back in after he cried on TV and the bad publicity they got, but they quickly forgot how loyal he was once they were finally able to sell tickets
@@Ezekial2517 i youtubed clipper Darrell. Lol
Funny videos
Exactly!
I know and what kind of "man" would complain about a loyal passionate fan?
She said it. “They can sell her seats for higher pricing”. I believe that!
She is paying the same as the seat next to hers you don't get a locked in price team wins price goes up you pay team loses price goes down you pay here in !n season tix in 2009 were 1600 for two in the lower level with all the perks now those same seats are 7800 a season for two less I guarantee you she pays a ton for those seats in Denver and u most always had to buy a pair unless its like amend lone seats no one bought after sales have begun for a while what I'm sayimg is the next person that gets those will pay the same she did
So uh, who filled the seat? Anyone know yet?
This is how the world treats loyalty, whether it's in the workplace or whatever
Exactly right. Loyalty is overrated and not worth your time and energy.
You said mouthful. Employers don't care about your dedication. As long as they can stick it to you, they will.
They’re forcing out a season ticket holder who paid probly 10% of what they can charge people now that they are a relevant franchise. Absolutely sickening and I hope she sues, wins a boatload, and is given back her tickets that rightfully belong to her.
That's a lot to hope for before hearing the evidence
This is Stan Kroenke 100% ask people in St Louis about "Honest" Stan...
This story gave us no facts.. so I mean there is a reason she was banned and I can highly guarantee you it had nothing to do with the price..
@@theres1dent Other big money season ticket holders complained.
Pretty sad
Sooooo, she's been there 32 years and NOWWWWW all the sudden she's a problem🤔🤔🤔 This definitely reeks of corporate bullshit 🤷🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️😂
Or this lady has been a pain in their ass for a long time!
If you've been a season ticket holder long enough, they grandfather your prices or try to negotiate seating. So her season ticket seats were pennies on the dollar for the kronkies.
@donavonzerbest9530 this isn't true. I've been a season tickets holder for 20 years. There is no grandfather pricing.
@bjknochel2055 don't even man. 2010 they started the "stimulus" package where they would increase your rates for club or first level but designate you two additional seats in section 350 or 312 or keep your rates the same (grandfather pricing). I got club level season tickets, section 242, row 2 seats 3 and 4. 16 years now amigo. Prices have gone up about $150 a season vs new season ticket holders paying 2K plus your season pricing.
Tell me your ticket rep, or I can take you to club level and we can wait outside of box 22 and ask Stan next time he's there.
She was probably more stable before. Passage of time alone doesn’t make an event later in the timeframe less likely.
I played for the Nuggets GLeague affiliate team, when I tell you she would NOT touch or strike anyone especially ball players she loves and cheers for! Something odd is missing from this story and it isn’t her side!
Thanks for saying that
Thank you for speaking up for her
I agree with you,just seems to me Denver is changing so much,my brother got out after spending most of his life there.
By the way,I also enjoy minor league basketball,I went to many games here in Vegas years ago!
Cool, I immediately looked you up! 14.5 pts per game! God bless
Dang, you've had an amazing basketball career. Way better than my "legendary" HS career where I averaged a world record 10 ppg lol!
A franchise looks for loyal fans , too bad the franchise can't be as loyal.
They cite "repeated" infractions and have zero video evidence of ANY of them? She needs to sue for defamation.
What doesn’t make sense is that it took 32 years to ban her for inappropriate conduct. When did it start, and where is the evidence? These arenas have state of the art camera all over and would have certainly caught something based on where she sits.
Maybe they do. They arent on trial tho. They don’t need to produce the evidence and publicly shame people every time they ban someone.
@LookOutside... even worse. They publicly shamed her without evidende
If she did something she would not be on the news
Lmao have you seen the size of ball arena? It would take hundreds of cameras with remarkably good optical zoom just to be able to see what’s going on somewhere, assuming you know where to look before it happens.
@@qwerty112311 they have those very cameras genīus 😂😂😂
She wasted her life worshipping people that cared nothing about her.
🙋🏾♂️ Sad but true, we all need to remember this 👆🏿 above comment. Sports, music, politics, entertainment, religious leaders
Bingo. They detest the plebs. Feudal era making a comeback.
It's her life, she can do whatever she wants with it. You know people have wasted their lives on much worst things as killings, stealing, cheating.... so what she does something thing she loves. who are you or anyone to judge her.
Yup smh
@@ReprezentSacramento Or maybe people have beliefs that don't align with your own. Some people were actually taught not to idolize. Only 2 that deserves that glory is God and Jesus.
Idolizing celebrities, athletes, politicians is a sin. And it will almost never reward you with anything that can actually be substantiated.
So tired of people like you claiming we have no right to judge. Same type of person to tell us not to worry about LGBTQ people parading through our streets naked.
When the Nuggets don’t win another championship this year, people are going to call it the Curse of Vicky. Until they do right by her, the franchise will be doomed.
I really believe in this.
The nuggets are most definitely winning the championship again this year, you're immensely foolish to relate this with the actual basketball, the nuggets are by far the best and most dominant team, they are winning the championship this year again for sure, regardless of what plebs like you say
@@Mdksupreme1 Take a joke
The basketball gods are real
@@Mdksupreme1 If they loose Imma come back here and laugh at your ass.
Anyone here ever been a season ticket holder for a team that went from mediocre/bad to really good in a couple years? I have, and trust when I say that once the team starts making more money and the ticket values go up, they will try anything and everything to squeeze you. If you call in to complain or negotiate, they put someone on the phone who will try to get you to either pay up, or forfeit your tickets. (The Sacramento Kings box office tried to get me to change my season tickets to row R in the upper level because "it would have better concession access." The Kings tried to cop out and claim that their season ticket sales are being run by a 3rd party, but I was never able to find this 3rd parties name. Eventually, I caved in and discontinued my season tickets for this year. The price increase was just too much and I'd rather spend that money and time with my son. But yeah, if you have ever been a season ticket holder, especially one with primo seats, then you know that they will squeeze you and push you to spend spend spend, or gtfo. (I did speak with a supervisor of customer relations and they smoothed things over and offered me some free perks, but I still discontinued my tickets.)
That’s sad Denver treated her like this
They need to clear her seats for the immigrants.
Loyal fan follows trash franchise for 32 years. Trash franchise is no longer trash and dumps loyal fan for higher ticket prices. It's like a high school movie villain. Ok, it's not about the money it's how they are treating her. Bring her aside and tell her we can't give you tickets like this anymore. To lie about her character to get her out SO you can charge more money for her ticket is a terrible look. Very disturbing.
You should give the media the proof you have that the organization is lying. It sucks that you have proof and are holding it back.
@jackjohnson8244 just like it sucks that they are making accusations about her and offered no proof for it. The lawyer asked for the proof. They declined. You must have missed that part. Such is life of a contrarian on the Internet.
@@josereyes1148 So you are saying that you are doing the same thing you are accusing them of? Is that the life of a contrarian also?
@@jackjohnson8244it’s always the big greedy corrupt corporations, not the common people.
@@ChristisKing117 You don't think common people lie? And did you see how much merch she has? And how many pictures she has with players? That's no common lady. She's wealthy.
But even if she wasn't, common people aren't above lying or acting inappropriate.
The players need to get this woman unbanned
they are the ones that wanted her banned lol, don't take a puff piece for granted, lady seems totally off her marbles and probably did a lot of things to have this happen, no way a PR department would approve this unless she just kept crossing the line
look at her house dude. does that look like a sane person... that is nuts.
@@rsplatpcscroll further down..there is an actual player who posted that said she would never do anything like they are claiming. 32 years and they only speak up now. Come on. I was skeptical too..like who.is this lady, but after reading from that actul nuggets player..yah, it's clear it's made up and they wanted to sell her tickets and make more money.
@@rsplatpc
I agree.
Seems like one of them crazy Cat People 😏
... now go clean your litter box
@@doodlebob2023😂🤣😂🤣
They need to prove that she did these "acts." And they didn't pull her tickets just for the price hike. That is rude and unfair. She has spent 32 years of her life devoted to that franchise. Why would she risk that and go public with her story?
They obviously don't have to prove anything
Bootlicker @@bryantkapono420
Starting with CU going to paid cable channels back in the 90's, I have seen so many instances of major sports institutions selling out "The Game" for the sake of more money. The sad fact is: business is business. People need to stop forking out major dollars just to watch sports events: it's all become a scam.
The nuggets aren’t just gonna pull her tickets for money that makes absolutely no sense. She still gets charged for her tickets every year and the prices go up for everyone, they would be guaranteed money. She had to be yelling at refs and players and get banned
@@fastage101 Then there should be plenty of video to support that and, if she did, then she did, and deserves to be punished. But, even a story about her simply being outbid by rich out-of-towners doesn't look good for sports franchises who still need that extra revenue from the plebs who buy merchandise and pay for viewing subscriptions. It's better optics if it looks like she did it to herself.
They dont care about loyal fans they care about highest paying bidder
Stan Kroenke owns the team that tells you everything you need to know……
I know trust me I’m an Arsenal fan
As an Arsenal fan I know he sucks
Not a good look for the Nuggets. I'm not saying she did or didn't do what they are accusing her of but if a fan this dedicated gets banned it is very distasteful to the rest of us who support this team. She deserves the benefit of the doubt. If they have the accusations on camera it's understandable but from what I understand they don't.
No surprise it’s a team owned by Stan Kroenke that would pull this, dude is an absolute greedy chump.
I’d feel safer at the games now. I’m glad they have a security staff that reviews video and complaints and makes decisions
@ivand5670 I agree, where is the camera footage? Weird how they are refusing to provide evidence....
@@Schlub14As an Arsenal (another sports team he owns) fan, I agree.
I'm sure Denver wanted those seats so they could sell them for a lot more money
exactly
This is like banning that nun from loyola games
Banning Spike or Jack Nicholson from Knicks and Lakers
Who is the nun? That was a scary movie Duder . Getting stuff mixed up pal
@@walterwhite1 google sister Jean loyola
Where do I sign the petition?
And Denver just lost to Minnesota!!! Maybe it's karma on the Nuggets organization!!! I feel so bad for this sweet lady.
I’m very disappointed how the team owners have treated this poor sweet loving dedicated woman . It shows very poor character on those money hungry greedy owners . Show her the respect she deserves and use your heart and empathy to this woman .
Idk if it's really about the money tbh. At best they could probably get an extra $50k out of the tickets...season ticket holders don't really get discounts like they used to. The money difference would be smaller than a drop in the bucket for KSE. I think she bugged someone with enough power to get her banned, and since the team is really good they'll have no problem selling the seats.
Give this lady her seats back!
No way. Anyone this is obsessed is unwell. It becomes their life. They think they are part of the team and then they overstep the bounds of how they should interact with staff, the players, and the refs. Then when they are removed after numerous warnings, they play victim.
you gonna pay for her $1000 ticket PER game seats??😂😂😂
@@raz318 I can see what you’re saying. But the timing seems fishy now that they are a winning team and her tickets are worth a lot more.
@canyoudigthisfood there is no real reason required, nba is a business and business dont care about your feelings and whatever is moral, they care about money
@canyoudigthisfood they dont need her lol they are not obligated to support her and nba is a pretty sensitive organisation anyways considering theyll kick anyone who paid wit their hard earned money for talking back to players
I vividly remember her at the games I went to way back in 2009. She's a great fan! And she's 72!
Do you remember anything like did she ever grab a ref
@@melissagrant4178 I've seen her at games since the 90s, and I never saw anything beyond high fiving players
@@johnprager662 Your old
@@dimitrytimothee1590 My old what?
@@johnprager662 Your probably the same age as her
The Nuggets players called her their mom and this is how the team treats her? Well, until they let Vicki Ray back in to Nuggets games, I hereby curse the Nuggets to never win another NBA Championship!
It would be interesting to see who gets the seats and how rich they are or who they know.
Just a reminder, large corporations couldn't care less about you. They are only in this for the money and most of them don't deserve your loyalty. I personally quit sports of any kind decades ago and am much happier and wealthier for it.
Nah, that's just an excuse. Get your lazy behind off the sofa and play basketball!
@@water0000 He stopped buying tickets and merch.
@@toddstevens13 exactly . these dummys didn't get the point 😂😂
Every business is only in it for the money. We pay them through ticket sales, merch and viewership to entertain us. This has nothing to do with that. The organization and the players have different roles, Hopefully the players see this and make things right.
Yeah and players care even less which is why they can't be bothered to even do their job and play games. Players are greedier than organizations
Idol worship is at an all time high.
actually it is the opposite by all measures. That's why things like the Oscars and sports championships have been losing viewers
@@shonuff4323 The Super Bowl was the most watched program ever.
@@notoriouseagle1074 sport watching for the sport not players. people grow up playing the sports and they like to watch them
Meh, they say everything was the biggest event.
Mind your own business. Let her enjoy collecting memorabilia,she's hurting nobody.
I hope that the players hear about this and collectively rally around her.
Lmao most of those players have not been with the nuggets that long and their loyalty is to their career and the team not some random single fans they barely know.
You really think they care anything about this old woman.
@@acornsucks2111 Do you care about her? You have no idea if she did or didn't do what she's accused of. I don't think you are showing that you care about her, I think you just care about having an opinion on a random topic.
@@jackjohnson8244I don’t give a flying fuck about this old lady
The players are all about themselves. This lady gave way over $200K in money to the NBA, but won't get anything in return excpect a slap in the face.
She should sue the team for control of ownership over their corrupt handling of her...bri
GIVE HER THE SEAT BACK!
Why would she, after all these years, all of a sudden start being violent nevertheless breaking any rules? Especially when you consider her age. Denver Nuggets management are pathetic people.
This is why im just a fan ,i dont worship, athletes, rock stars, actors, NO ONE
What about TEAMS? Aka not individuals
Worship God.
@@adcolt54🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
@@adcolt54 no thanks
bad sign for denver nuggets.. that's a curse when it comes in arena..
last may huh? sounds like the kroenke group figured the nuggets were going to go deep in the playoffs and decided to remove her so they can sell her discounted tickets at a much higher rate. its especially sad considering a deserving super fan like herself didnt even get to be there for the nuggets' one and only championship (so far)
Read your comment and was wondering where you got "last May" from. I watched the video three times over after and she was banned mid-February (1:27) so it was more recent. They are definitely looking to upsell her tickets this postseason for a profit now they have a championship under their belt.
Thanks, that explains it let alone they should have footage if she did anything wrong.
We have season tickets for the AVS and used to have season tickets for the Nuggets. Every season they raise the price and you have the option to buy. She's not locked in to a lower price.
Now, does that even make sense? Think about it🤔: Vicky’s Ongoing Fandom is more Valuable than The Increase in Season Tickets. Her Presence Generates more Interests, which generates more money( advertising/promotion ). So, She must have done SOMETHING, to get her BANNED.
@@karapuckett1440 You should not have to state The Obvious, but We are Dealing with Some Gullible People Here. I mean, What Professional Sports Team, Locks-In Ticket Prices, Year after Year, for ANY INDIVIDUAL? Ticket Prices usually Goes Up for EVERYBODY, and definitely Go Up when, THE TEAM GETS BETTER!
People should boycott at least one game.
I boycott the whole league, everyday the NBA and it players go out of their way to disrespect the fans
I gathered in one minute that she should be banned. her obsession has taken over and she probably feels like more than a fan when she goes to a game. thing would have just gotten worse and worse
I hope this can be resolved I hate seeing this as a Denver Nuggets Fan and makes me sad that we would do this to our own fan that has dedicated so much time to our team.
There’s gotta be more to this story
She did something, how big is the question and how many times.
@@SarahNGeti they need to come out with the proof then, there are like 50 million cameras in those arenas
Here is what i think happened nba players have alot of home games per season i just think at some point she was a burden to one of them
(Maybe even one of the stars)
Every home game she is looking for interaction with them high fives Staying late after games season after season to the point where it was beyond normal for them and uncomfortable a complaint came in and they took action.
If i was them i would just make season ticket available to her that are away from the players no staying late give her a good price thats sway from the players.
@@elderassassin9673 possibly stalking. She is too obsessed 😩
The look on the players face she high fived says it all. They don’t want her there. Super fans equal borderline stalkers and never see anything wrong with their behavior
Knowing who owns the Nuggets he probably just wanted to laugh at her suffering
They don't yank tickets for no reason.
Nice going nuggets, way to support the people that have supported you the most
Anyone proudly displaying their Eduardo Najera jersey is for real. What a shame.
He's the trash man. Everyone should have a Najera jersey... There's a reason the seasons he played there were Melo's most successful.
The Mexican Mauler.
BOOMER SOONER FOREVER
These people would be lucky to have a fan like her. The boxing community would always welcome her ❤.
Most sports communities are too busy gambling their hearts and souls away.
@@jeffstanthose It's crazy how big it's become
She should take them to court, it’s possible they are lying.
It's also possible she is lying.
@@qatarworldcupwinnermessi Do you know how many video cameras are @ an NBA game? There would HAVE TO BE video evidence of these actions!
@@alanoranday4448 I am not saying she is lying. I am saying it is possible she is lying. I don't know and nobody here knows what really happened.
@@qatarworldcupwinnermessi if she's lying why can't they show the video evidence? An NBA stadium has at least a hundred cameras
@@qatarworldcupwinnermessi You're right we don't know what happened! All that would have to be done is show the video evidence, and there would be no reasonable doubt, and everyone could just move on!
They're probably NOT going to do that, let's guess why!
Corporate DOES NOT care about one woman's ticket money. I'm not saying she did anything wrong, but it's highly likely "something" happened(and probably more than once). Otherwise, those in charge would have no reason to even look into her seating, etc. One woman's tickets are not worth it for Corporate to deal with the media. There's definitely more to this story.
Im curious as to the full story here. ANY physical contact with players or officials, incidental or not, can get potentially get you banned
YO LET HER GO TO THE GAMES! SHES A SUPERFAN! PLEASE LET HER BACK TO THE GAMES, THE LADY IS CRYING FFS, PLEASE!!
I remember seeing her at alot of games cause she sits by the players tunnel. Been seeing her since I was 6 years old. Wild
Do you remember anything, about her like did she ever grab a ref or hit a player
fr she always give chocolate and candy to the players passing by. She's the sweetest person
@melissagrant4178 obviously never happened. She pre-ordered her tickets years in advance when the nuggets sucked. So she got them cheap. Now that every game is a sell out they are losing money on her seats. So they went this route
Time to make a stand.....say something.
She either 1. Has a seat some corporate shill wants and it was taken from her, 2. is an entitled season ticket holder who said the wrong thing to the wrong member of the organization.
this is the only correct response.
Revoking her tickets to sell for more money doesn't make sense. What would they gain, a few more thousand bucks for a multi million dollar organization?
This is super phucked up. Team management should be ashamed.
I dunno I can’t see them banning her for no reason and I don’t see their motive to make things up.
Stan Kroenke himself better step in and do something, this is total bull and unacceptable
The PLAYERS and the Coaches need to stick up for her. Gotta have integrity!
Lmfao Kroenke would be the last human on earth to do something honorable
Yeah, no. The Nuggets will be fine without her season tickets.
Break the rules, face the consequences. Na na na na, na na na na, hey hey hey, goodbyeeeeee 😅
Yeah, the same owner who moved the Rams to LA….
Imagine dedicating your almost entire life to something that stabbed you at the back.
Sounds a lot like marriage
All the married men in the house say "Amen" to that.
Like everyone in this specific comment section, this is what marriage is like for men😂
You ever heard of Julius Caesar?
Sounds like a lot of things in life 😂 Job, women and kids just to name a few.
James Harden has a great interview saying he realized that NBA is a "Business". Imagine being 72 years old spending your life on idolizing something that has no worth. Curry would be traded from Warriors if he went %15 from 3 pt line. This is a business. Lesson here kids: Focus on your life goals, stop idolizing cheap stuff and wasting your life.
Now compare what the raptors did for their super fan. Will be looking forward to an early nuggets playoff exit.
Where's the footage?
This is not ok. Show her the proof!
That's sad. Let her back.
Not a good look
She was all ways in good spirits and treated players and fans alike never seen her disrespect anyone!
🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️ GIVE HER THEM FREAKIN SEATS BACK NOW..... 😡😡😡😡😡
So, she was just fine for 32 years, and then she became naughty girl?
It’s giving dementia.
32 yrs of minor annoyances
Refs are soft these days. Gave her a technical foul for life 😢
@@Ziegutit's giving
When you
As a
Be like
Sorry, pulled your string too many times
Dang I grew up watching her at those games.
Change her seats to ones where she can’t touch the players or refs and let her back in.
Knicks did the same thing with Spike Lee. not surprised this happened to a “regular”
"We got what money we feel we can get from her and no longer need her " a spoken said.
It all made sense when they reminded me Kroenke owns that team
Why so many comments hating on this woman ? she got a dream collection of basketball , one many of us can only fantasy with , i like her pasion and hope she can come back to the stadium and team she loves
@@CrayTom nope. im married actually and have a kid
@@CrayTom oh i saw you were one of those haters. Lol trying to call me gay 😆 bro u have glasses, were i come from u would be most gayest dude around
If she loves the team, quietly walk away and support like that...now its a distraction
@@nanoz7734Let’s have a big round of applause for the married man!
👏👏👏👏👏👏
They care more about your MONEY than YOU!!!!
I'm a Spurs fan and been to several games in Denver. I've seen her numerous times and she's a total sweetheart! I say reinstate her and let her do what she loves doing best and that's support the Nuggets! Shame the NBA has did her wrong.
Love and idolize are two different things
Karma is a thing. Denver is a top championship contender this year but they're not going to win if they treat their fans this way. Nuggets have some good hearted players, hopefully they see this and make it right for such a devoted fan.
Edit: I've seen Nuggets also take care of some special olympics kids in the same breath of time. It may not have been fair for me to judge them off one bad deed by their front office while neglecting their good. I hope Mrs.Ray is treated well and given free seat at the finals when she watches her team repeat. Denver needs to do right by her.
Karma is a guy on the Chiefs
@@Lonesurvivor256coming straight home to me
Karma 🔥 is definitely real.
it remains unclear what exactly happened, and exactly how, when, why... I wouldn't be so quick to make any judgements about this simply because I don't know enough about what the hell happened
A similar situation for a Sixers fan but the difference was that they showed footage of him cursing out opposing players and hitting someone (he’s a short, fat older man & doctor 😂) and they also listed all the other bad things he did. The Sixers backed it up, the Nuggets have not.
Thats what you get when you idolize someone or something that doesnt give a flying fuck if you exist
She has put so much effort into her fandom, they should really do everything they can to appreciate her!
If Jokers leaves, then those seats are back to being less vaulable.
The fact that you would do this to a 72 year-old lady....money really *_is_* the root of all things evil. Man 🤦🏾♂
Can you not see an unhealthy obsession right in front of your eyes? Superfans get like this all the time. It starts out innocent, then they cross a line with a player or staff and then they play victim. Eminem didn’t write “Stan” for nuthin…
@@raz318 Even if this is partially true(which it probably is), she is 72. No point in banning her when she has been a fan for decades. It's as simple as that.
Yep, we are seeing the love of money being the root of all evil more and more. The extremely wealthy can’t seem to be satisfied even though they could never manage to spend all their money in several lifetimes. Capitalism without a conscience is unsustainable.
Totally agree. They should not discriminate based on age. Keep 72 years olds accountable the same was they would a 32 year old. Well done Nuggets.
@@LookOutside...so with no proof you automatically believe the team? 🤦♂️
It apears that Vicki is not a "bad fan" but a "bad customer" in the eye of the Denver Nuggets owner.
So horrible, she's a wonderful person 😕
Knowing the NBA today she's prolly just "too extra" for their liking. League has gone soft. Refs are softer. RIP.
Hope not...but she looks like the type to feel more importance than she has
This should be a lesson for you die hard fans. Players don't care about you, they don't even know you are alive. They don't want your support they want your money. Unfortunately, most of you won't ever learn that lesson.
Neither do politicians, celebrities, religious leaders etc.
Plenty of the players loved Vicki, sent her cards when she had a stroke, and even the official team twitter sent out a get well soon when she was in the hospital. Youre full of shit and don't know the story, but she was well loved by the fans, players, and even organization for decades.
I don't know why you're blaming the players when it's clearly the organization that screwed her over. The players showed her a lot of love over the years
This is exactly why the bible tells people not to worship idols
This woman gave over 30 years of her life to something that doesn't care about her at all
Incorrect. The Nuggets absolutely care about Vicki. She’s been a part of Nuggets culture for decades. This is sad
@@OwenHooper-mv4fm How much do they really care if they aren't fighting for her??
Stan Kroenke and his associates have worshipped oil and money for their entire lives… When is your god going to punish them?
Stan Kroenke and his associates spend their lives worshipping money and oil… when is your god going to punish them?
@@OwenHooper-mv4fmThey couldn’t care less. Don’t be so obtuse.
"I couldn't hit a player in the face because his face is way up here and my hand is way down here *giggle*"... cut to video of her high-fiving players from the stands as they file in - if you can high-five them, you can hit their faces
I hate the NBA. I spent all of elementary, Jr high, and high school worshipping the league and spending way too much money on their crap. Then I realized the league doesn't care at all about it's fans and I need to spend my energy on something I got a return on.
Facts
I felt the same way about the NFL, specifically the Cowboys. I bled Blue and Silver. I haven't watched a game since September 2017 when they decided to kneel for the Anthem as a team, including JJ...how dare they disrespect the country that made them their money. I missed it for the first season afterward but now I am happy with my choice. Why invest time and energy into something that doesn't care about you.
She spent so much time devoted to the team that she feels entitled to cross the line from audience to participant.
Delusional.
I'm not taking sides but she isn't a fan but a fanatic and i could see her getting too hot over something or stalking are the only things i could think of that make any sense.