COMPLETE BOILER INSTALL | Viessmann Vitodens 100-W
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- Warm at last! Here is the start to finish install of our new Vitodens 100W from Viessmann. Lots of the background info and the technical side were covered in a previous video but if you have any questions leave them below. Enjoy!
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I'm a gas engineer myself and I have to say he did a quality job for you, good man!
That plumber created a piece of art ! Excellent workmanship.
Wow it's great to see a professional tradesman doing a VERY tidy and great looking job
Very nice tidy work from your engineer,I'm a builder and it's rare to see a gas engineer take as much care as this bloke has,even down to the pipe clips he used.very nice job!
Yeah, I might setup 3 SLRs behind a workman and then see how much care he/she takes ;)
You probably don't see this quality of work being a builder because you don't want to pay the right rates for quality workmanship like this!! And you know I'm right...cheaper the job the more money in your pocket!
@@kb5057 are you joking? Lmao my electrical work and plumbing work is all on sperate pricing so it makes no odds to me how much it costs.
Typical generalisation of a builder there,everyone seems to think we're loaded.the fact is most plumbers and electricians that work on my jobs probably take home more every week than I do
i only generalised because you did though? Im a gas engineer by the way if you hadn't guessed. Cant beat abit of trade banter haha @@rossmale8715
@@kb5057 lmao I'm glad it's only light hearted.i said it's rare to see,not that I don't see it! ;)
Nice Boiler. Thanks for sharing.
Very nice install. I'm a plumber across the pond in canada and I just recently installed the latest vitodens 100 B1KA combi model, and they're by far my favorite boiler to install and service. Excellent choice.
Good to here! 👍
Dustin Thewind Yes very good boiler choice we like viessmann boilers over here as well
I must’ve fitted about 30 by now, I’m very pleased with them
Really professional.. Not only the install, but the video too.
Bravo! Viessmann is also a great boiler. I have it. I haven't had any problem in six years.
The installer gave a very professional impression. Nice work! 😊
Clean installation, Very well done 👍 you will love it!
2024 now but we just had the latest 11kW model installed. We had a Y-plan with a storage tank and had a B1HF installed. The installation couldn't be more simple - we just had to add an extra pipe to give a direct flow to the cylinder. We were able to get rid of the old 3-port valve, cylinder stat, room stat, circulation pump and programmer - none of these were necessary! And probably nobody needs that extra expansion vessel you have. It's all built into the boiler. Controlled from an App on the iPhone. We connected two 10k NTC resistors (30p on Amazon) one on the cylinder and one outside for weather comp.
Excellent video. Thoroughly enjoyed watching it.
Great work...by Jason, as well as the videographer. 👍
Glad that y'all are comfy warm!
I'm wondering if we can do a collaboration of some additional work, hvac related, from new construction, the whole installation or a changeout, changeover retrofit, conversion, the ins and outs, a reality show in the making.
the pipe work is gorgeous
You were lucky to have that fella , hope you appreciate his work 😉....
That’s a lovely tidy job, we’ve never fitted a Vitodens unit, looks good 👍
Very nice video 👍
TH-cam should introduce a 'love' button rather than a thumbs up, it'd be used on your vids
Thank you, it was nice to be behind the camera for a change. 😀
Cam someone tell me why there is a second expansion tank? Thanks
I have this boiler. What thermostat do you recommend for electric baseboard heaters?
Hope you seal the flexible condensate pipe where it enters the 32mm waste or poc could leak into the room . Good video though now I feel confident to install my own boiler as it looks quite easy thanks Oh one other thing if I do it myself should I screwed the flue pipe to the bend or don't you think that is needed these days .
No screws needed on Viessmann flues and the condence does not need to be sealed.
Very nice tidy work. Is this boiler only? I am interested to see tankless water heating and combi boiler video.
A very neat tidy installation nice pipework and nice to see your plumber using pipe clips!
but personally I would not have used crimp fittings you can’t beat a good soldered joint
Also an excellent boiler choice, it should give you good gas savings over many other brands
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Who doesn’t use pipe clips?
Have you got a video explaining the pipework and valving? I'm building my own system and was looking at how the flow was done in yours, Ta.
Why did he solder the gas pipe when he had gas crimp fittings in his box?
Looks a bit bodged using 2 different jointing methods(OCD issues). Hope you lag it all with kingspan kooltherm its top noch stuff and worrh the extra money SIG insulation is best place to get it from
As it would ordinarily be installed in 22mm it would usually have all been crimped. The few soldered joints were either where the jaws could not reach fitting well enough or on the 28mm runs he was using up the four lengths of pipe and spare fittings I had in the workshop. I have a mixture of the kooltherm and standard lagging saved from the previous ‘plant room’ so should be all good under floor. 👍
We just installed same boiler last week .. your process was a little different than your but overall looks great. Where did you buy your stickers ?
Best boiler
100-w B1HE or B1KE and when would you use the 85 vs 120? My house is about 1750 sq ft (4 Bedroom, 2 bath, Kitchen, living room and family room). We have a storage tank for hot water, so B1HE is what was recommended.
Great videos should have a tv show!!! Must have got them all muddles what happened to bio boiler?? thanks Keep up great work
Did u have to order cylinder connections separately and if your not using the cylinder connections do they supply blanks
Quality job and a quality boiler!
You sure that's 28mm not 22mm?
Not a huge fan of crimped joints personally, can't beat a nice tidy soldered joint IMHO :)
All 28mm on the straight horizontal runs under floor, 22mm running down from boiler where most of the footage is shown. 👍
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I get you might help with the flow a bit I suppose, always good to use up some old materials to!
Where's the PRV? I don't see it on the flow close to the boiler.
That was like a work of art, good heating engineer. I thought you were going to have a go at it yourself! I think you could do it. Need loads of special tools though.
Thank you for this video. After multiple troubleshooting sessions, the HVAC company wants to replace the "relay module" in my Vitodens 100 W1B1. Can anyone help me find this part online? I googled it with no luck. Thank you.
Why is there no Isolation valves on the Domestic Flow and Returns
I need a new boiler for a one bedroom flat, flat has 1 bathroom and only electric no gas, it’s on ground floor- any suggestions please ? I’m really worried and want a trusted brand or make?
what were you installing outside? a new metre?
Quick question, why was there an expansion tank installed when there is an internal expansion tank?
Think it was just due to size of system and possibly the UFH. Possibly not vital though.
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Will a Viessmann 100 work with Poly B tubing?
Shame the brand new version came out months later...
Is this boiler just doing heating, or is it providing domestic hot water as well?
Heating, underfloor and water.
Also did you add a water heater to it? What is the red thing installed next to it?
The red thing is the expansion tank.
Remember that horror film....
The Hills Have Eyes....
That guy is a spitting image...😃
Thanks for all the videos. I enjoy most of them, some I do skip over though! Quick bit of advice if possible please. I have a Nikon 60d which was about our budget at the time. I did splash out on a second hand 24 to 200 zoom Nikon lens. I would like to upgrade to do some video for a walking holiday company that I work for. Show the coast path etc. Is it wise to buy a better Nikon body or should I buy an all in one please? I want to try to avoid the adventure type cameras because Anna and I still like to use it for stills. Thanks for the help.
Firstly I don’t use Nikon and not sure that they stack up as well against others for video. Any canon dslr will provide good footage especially those with auto focus such as 70d or 80d.
That said I have recently been trialling Panasonic mirroless cameras and they are great. Whichever route you go, put your investment in the lenses more than body. 👍
P.s the little Panasonic I have is less than £500 with the lens and the footage it’s producing is on par with my full frame dslrs, apart from in low light plus about 1/4 the weight. Plus all body stabilised so very smooth. I think I have been stuck in my ways with big cameras for years so it’s a revelation! 😀
@@TheRestorationCouple Thanks for the reply. Spending money on the good Nikon lens has helped over the years but I need to replace it. I'll take a look at the Panasonic. Can you remember the model please? Thanks for all the help.
@@gucu The G85 is the one I am using with the intention of switching out for the G9 if and when I need to. I shot parts of a wedding last week on the G85 and was very impressed, plus silent shutter great for ceremony. Again, lens choice is key, but the 12-60 kit lens is very good and is the equivelant of 24-120mm so good range too. Not sure if still on but the cashback offer from panasonic was £200 at the time. Other benefits are that you can use other lenses on it with adapters and all will be stabilised as it's in body so great for video.
Which crimping tool are you using there ?
Looks good. Just in time if the temperature down there is anything like up here in Newcastle.
Can't say I'd heard of this brand until you started talking about them. I dare say our boiler is only good for another year or two so they might get some payback on their investment here from me.
Had nothing but problems with ours, had it less then a year and we've called them out 8 times already. Clearly a major fault with the boiler but they refuse to swap it for another, wouldn't touch them again.
@@Marty7787 same fault every time? What's the problem out of interest?
@@philenglish3931 The fault has never been found so to speak, it provides heating and hot water for about 3 days, then goes to heating only and after another 3 or 4 days the heating goes, they have replaced the same 3 parts, but not on every occasion, one part one visit then another on another occasion, but it's always one of those 3 parts, the 'chief' engineer for the region has visited it for the past 4 visits but the same issues continue. The engineer told us how to reset it to get it working again, they've been that bad that we don't even bother calling them any more and just reset it ourselves every few days. I would love for them to read this and be shamed into doing something and finally get the issues sorted once and for all. IMO they've been given ample opportunity to rectify the fault. Sick of dealing with them. Nothing but a bad experience with this company and I'd avoid their boilers at all costs from now on.
Phil English - I'm in NE12 - did you get a Viessman ? I've been thinking of the 100 as our replacement - be interested if you've got an installer to recommend ??
@@MrBcsack hi, no we didn't, based on the feedback from Marty and the fuss of getting our usual guy to source one we just went with something more mainstream
Well done, what app did he use for the commissioning?
How have you found this boiler so far? I am currently deciding on a replacement boiler and this is one that I have on my shortlist.
Fantastic, very reliable so far. Just switched to the vertical flue due to a new porch and boiler looked pretty clean inside while it was being serviced and all running as expected.
Pick the 200
" Viesman" is Dutch for "dirty man"! Here in the Netherlands everyone is converting to eco friendly heating. Gas is used in most homes but all new homes use alternative systems. Gas is being fazed out.
In reality there are not many other options that would work with our old home, heat pumps will not get warm enough. We obviously tried renewables with the wood pellet boiler it replaced.
How come you have an external expansion vessel and pump when a system boiler has these built internally?
My Vitodens is an earlier model, but my install looks almost identical. No internal expansion vessel, and on mine, the internal pumps run the mixing loop, and other pumps circulate the various zones.
The Walrus cool, although you can see the internal vessel on this one but maybe it’s down to system size and the need for more expansion. Having said this I have a similar boiler running a 30 rad system without any pressure issues so maybe belt and braces approach. Extra pump maybe for underfloor heating thinking about it as I don’t have that. Is yours definitely a system boiler if it doesn’t have an internal vessel? The whole point of system boilers is that they have the main ‘system’ components built in 👍🏻
Yeah, I have one pump each for two in-floor loops in a 40’ x 40’ concrete slab. The install I did was, I think, 2007-ish, so I’m a bit fuzzy, and I’d have to go out and look at the install manual. And I’ll admit, it was a retrofit when the original oid-school open flue boiler corroded itself to death. Does your unit require a minimum water pressure to operate? This one likes to have about 15 PSI or so, or it shuts down.
The Walrus I had a Worcester Bosch previously which did not have a min pressure requirement until the heat exchanger killed itself about a year ago but my new Baxi will shut down if the pressure drops too far below 1 bar I think. The pressure is always constantly around 1.5bar though which is good. Mine is using the Honeywell evo home system though so I can split every room in the house to have its own timer and temperature which is perfect for a large system as you only pay to heat exactly what you need. It’s all either app or control panel controlled and as it’s ‘online’ it gets the local weather report and compensates for that too. The best analogy I heard for this was that you wouldn’t have one single light switch in your house to switch all of your lights on and off so why have your entire house heating on or off. It should be controllable down to room level which is what this system does. My wife works from home so it’s a no brainer to just heat the office and a bathroom rather than the whole house everyday. Ideal also for just flicking on bedrooms if it’s very cold overnight. 😬
@@bscott77 Very neat. I had a look, and my unit doesn’t have that internal tank, although it is an installable option. My requirements are dead simple, as it’s really just a single room shop. This unit was recommended to us by a heating and plumbing contractor we work with, and it really makes the previous system look stone-age. I was impressed by the variety and flexibility of the configurations and controls. It’s performed well, and in about 10 years, the only repair has been to replace an igniter with a cracked ceramic insulator.
How much did it cost roughly for supply and fitting of this boiler? I’ve just bought a house which has no central heating it’s all electric wanting to install a combi boiler and upgrade the heating....
I’m not sure it would compare to be honest as you are likely to need plumbing for the whole house if only electric now. That said, it is a pretty common situation so an easy one to get quotes on I would have thought.
Hi Logikal, yep a good question, but, but for some reason, some guys hide what they charge, try Allen Hart vids, he is honest about it. Did that plumber charge mega-bucks and a little embarrassed? C'mon guys, just share, nothing to worry about!!!
Crimped joints, not soldered?
Looked like all gas fittings were soldered, a lot of plumbers using crimped fittings from the UK plumber TH-cam vloggers it would seem, was told its a function of less chance to burn stuff "in everyday use" which "this video" might not be your average everyday example since there is no roof on the structure :)
In the EU you see it more and more and works fantastic only downside is when you make a mistake hahahah
Not sure I trust viesmann given their rubber hose issues but hey ho it’s free for you and to be fair they are still pretty good in comparison just such a shame they let themselves down with some design flaws. Neat install is this hi standards all the time who knows but can only go off what we see in the video and that looks spot on.
This model has copper pipes you can see this in the earlier on in the video
@@SalimKhan-gk1fh so they updated the design ?
@@user-te1le7ck6b Yes they switched over to copper in round about 2018 I believe if you see the video with the front cover off you can see the copper front flow hose, I look after quite a few of the older models and them houses are not too bad to clear out or even replace
@@user-te1le7ck6b the current 2021 model is currently the best combination boiler in my opinion
@@SalimKhan-gk1fh nice you in London by any chance always need a good boiler engineer
Will you install nest or hive heating controller?
It works with our existing nest. 👍
Hi can I ask what boilers were on your shortlist? I noticed your gas engineer had Viessmann, Intergas and Atag on his van. I'm thinking of an Intergas Extreme due to its passive built-in flue gas heat recovery and dual OpenTherm inputs (Partner wants to use Nest), I am also looking at the Baxi 630 and one of the Atag's. What did your gas engineer think of Intergas and Atag? Thanks and keep making the videos.
Gary Craven I think he made the right decision on this viessmann boiler choice I noticed the same on his van too
I think the guy does quality work and only fits quality appliances,
Can somebody explain what the tool is used at 6.20, when fitting the pipes ?
Looks like a sharkbite tool to me. Basically creates watertight connections without soldering. It is sometimes controversial depending on the generation of plumber you speak with about them!
Why the bypass, it´s built in already ?
You should have capped the ECV whilst soldering
Also, why did he pipe up the gas one day, then come back another day to commission, naughty naughty!
What is the purpose of the second expansion vessel?
Think it was just due to the size of system and ufh. Possibly not essential.
@@TheRestorationCouple that's what i thought, thanks.
Nice neat install.... I don't rate the boilers at all though.
Good luck getting parts when it goes wrong though 😘
What’s the problem with getting parts I’ve fitted dozens over the last 15 years and parts have not been an issue at all most available in stock or next day availability
What’s the problem with getting parts I’ve fitted dozens over the last 15 years and parts have not been an issue at all most available in stock or next day availability
What’s the problem with getting parts I’ve fitted dozens over the last 15 years and parts have not been an issue at all most available in stock or next day availability
@@SalimKhan-gk1fh where are you based ?
How has the boiler been so far. Trying to decide between the 050-W and 100-W?
Completely faultless so far. Just coe throgh a couple of very cold weeks and not skipepd a beat, plus bills looking good compared to the old system.
The Restoration Couple Cheers
Go for the 100, the 050 is their budget range and still has rubber hoses for the internal pipework that tend to catch a lot of debris and choke the boiler up.
The 100 has copper piping inside and better quality components.
Robinson Heating Cheers. Went for the 100-W and it’s been awesome so far.
For the cost of those tattoos he could have bought a decent wig!
Does the pump go on the flow or return?
Flow
Its in the boiler on the return.
@@andrewmillwardwatford9410 Ok Lol, so now we have two different answers! Reason i ask is i have an OV 100W and the plumber didn't put the pump on the flow, where i thought it would go as the boiler keeps cycling due to reaching temp limit as its not moving the hot water fast enough
@@niceguy235uk1 could be an issue with available pump head. Viessmann have very high head loss. I use close coupled tees to overcome this issue. See my utube channel.
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I'd like it if you show the installation of a neoclassical curved staircase
have you taken the biomass out after just 3 years ? or is this a different property ??
Taken out. 🙁
You really are wonderfully posh and splendid happy chappy ☺. A credit to you class and breeding. Hurrah hurrah!!
WTF why is that red tank thing on the OUTSIDE of the boiler all of a sudden it is NOT SO FUCKING COMPACT AND TIDY
Little less chill out music and more where the dammed wireless thermostat wires into. Ta.
Shame it was a Viessmann
Why do you say that?
@@harryaspris3031 Do boiler repairs mostly and see 4-6 a day, every viessmann I go to is either leaking from poor design, blocked up hoses like the vaillants or their silly condense traps are blocked, they've now changed the design and moved these rubber hoses to the rear of the heat exchanger which is the stupidest design, currently I don't think you can fault the new Baxis, and for the price of their boilers and headache id rather get a Worcester which is saying something.
Charlie I fitted loads of viessmann boilers over the last 10 years and they’ve all mostly been trouble-free I can’t really see what the problem is most problems are down to poor installation anyway and not necessarily the boiler
I have 60 plus Viessmann boilers on my service contracts and own four. Fantastic boilers.
Andrew Millward Well said Andrew there seem to be a lot of twats on here leaving comments .stupid comments!
Nice job....pity about the boiler though......😂
So can you explain the ‘ pity’ about the boiler?? it’s currently one of the best you can get very popular now in the UK, I fitted dozens I’m happy the customers happy and they are reliable and most economical on gas
It's just a shame he fitted a vitodens boiler
Why?
They are a great boiler 👍
They’re great boiler fitted dozens myself customers over the moon with the gas saving ,reliability & Quiteness
Harry you talk twaddle....lol. Hope you are well.
Vitodens are good boilers, avoid Worcesters, it got a response though, stay safe andrew
2:12 That’s really not the best way to test for a gas leak.
Hideous tats.
rubbish
very slow installation. Would not like to be paying you guys on a daily rate