I bought the Wilson Combat for the extra girth. On a whim I ordered the tungsten weights. It changes the whole personality of the gun. It shoots like a 26. It may even be less perceived recoil for me than the 26. It is 1 ounce lighter than the 26 with the weights and it does that with a much lighter slide. It weighs 20.5 ounces with an empty Magguts 10 to 12 round kit. The grip with the weights improve the handling and recoil immensely and the 365 wasn’t bad to begin with. The 43 is not fun to shoot. I could go broke way before tired running the 365.
I added the WC XL grip module (with tungsten weight set) for my P365 and I can shoot tighter groups faster and more accurately, than with the factory grip module. I also purchased Tactical Development magazine base pads, which are longer front to back and fit the WC grip module perfectly.
I replaced the stock grip on my standard P365 with the Wilson Combat P365XL module. I agree fully on the aesthetics and the grip texture of the Wilson - both major improvements over the stock SIG grip. But what you list as a "con" of the Wilson - the wider grip - is actually a "pro" for me. I have fairly big hands, and I was going to sell my P365 due to the small grip until I realized that I could install the larger XL grip module on a standard 365. (Yes, you have to buy new XL magazines.). It's made it a completely different, and infinitely more comfortable, gun. I also recently bought the WC P320 X-Carry, which of course already has the WC grip module on it, in addition to all of the tweaks and improvements Wilson made to the base 320. What a phenomenal gun! Still not as good as my Wilson Combat EDC X9S, but much better than the stock P320.
Im going from a baby Glock26 to a p365 because the p365s slimmer profile for concealment. Im in search for a better grip but dont want to convert it to a glock which is onky 1/16 thicker than the wilson combat grip. Thanks. This is the exact video i needed to watch!
If it weren't for the thickness of the WC grip, why would any one buy it? Only for looks? I think the whole purpose of the WC grip is for the thickness. IMO, the stock grip on the P365 is to small in diameter and doesn't fill out your hands as bigger grips do. Others have complained about the stock grip not providing that gap between your fingers and your palm for your support hand.
I have big hands and wear XXL gloves, so the P365 with the Wilson Combat XL grip module gives me enough room to get 3 fingers on the grip and makes me more accurate.
Great Video! I just bought the P365 in .380 and I'm really trying hard to stick with my 500-1000rds. break-in with the stock grip module, but man it sure is hard to resist just going for it, the WC Mod turns the 365 into an absolute stunner! 🤩 Who knows, if these P365 Modules sell big and customer requests start flooding WC's inbox, maybe they'll start offering floor plates for 365 mag's that match the starburst/texture design on their grip mod's. Bill Wilson has credited customer demand for a number of WC's product offerings, so it is possible if enough people start requesting matching floor plates.. It's something to think about.. 🤔😉😂
I have 3 P365 and 2 P320 WC modules. Very very happy with shot and carry. I found appendix carry with the P365 WC to be a lot better because of the rounded beaver tail.
Clicked on the video because I was thinking of putting a gold flat-faced trigger on my original 365, so wanted to see what yours looked like. That said, I do agree with your assessment of the grip module for the most part. The wider grip is kind of a both sides of a coin deal as it feels better and offers better control but also slightly reduces concealability. I carry with a 10-round magazine for optimal concealment though, so in the end the wider girth is pretty negligible in comparison to the printing increase of the 12-round. I often carry a 12-round as a spare and that works well. For those who do carry with the extended mag, it would be cool if Wilson came out with a matching sleeve for the 12-round magazines to replace the stock one. I'd buy it even though I don't carry a 12-round mag in the gun. I did try to carry for a couple of weeks with the tungsten weights in the Wilson module, but the extra weight is noticeable, even if it is marginal. Those weights do increase the shootability of the gun, and I'm sure most would say it's bad practice to train with a variable different from a self-defense scenario.
I added the WC P365X module to my stock P365 and it eliminated the problem you had with the base. One more concern is if you wanted to add a Lima or Crimson laser, they won't fit the WC module.
I'd be a bit worried how the back mating of the grip and mag extension feels on the palm of the hand. That's something that kinda drives me nuts with the G43.
The extra girth of the WC grip modules is a pro. IMO it's what drives the sale. As to esthetics, there are base pads for the 365XL 12 and 15 round mags that match the WC pattern and grip contour. I've purchased some from XL Tactical and IMO they compliment the appearance and intent of the Wilson Combat grip modules.
If you bought the model for the P365XL, you could fit your 12rnd mag in there with no issue. Just take off the added plastic at the base of the mag and swap base plate . Would fit perfect. Yes you could not use your 10 rnd mags but 10 rounds is not enough for most …many ppl carry 12 n 1 with the Sig. As I see you do as well
The thing I noticed about the Wilson Combat Grip is that it doesn't scratch up like the Sig grip. I got a P365 380 and the module has marks all over it. You can mark it up with your fingernail. Wilson grip doesn't have a mark on it after 2 range trips and 300 rounds. Sig module marked up the first day.
I only use a small grip module for pocket carry at church. I thus prefer the thinner profile of the stock grip. The other 6 days of the week I use a stock XL grip with a rubber Hogue grip sleeve. I suppose a WC grip would feel pretty similar in the hand as far as thickness is concerned.
While I still carried the P365, I actually went back to the stock grip just because of the slenderness of it… But right now I carry a Glock 26, so I really don’t have anything further to say
Good review. I have an XL and considering a WC grip. Curious, since you have 2, if you prefer the shorter grip over the larger for concealment? I was even thinking about getting the smaller handle, original sized WC for my XL. Have you ever tried that?
I've been kicking around the idea of getting a WC module for my p365. I have 2 to 3Xl hands but am worried about the extra size for printing since I carry mine in the pocket. Now I have already put a hogue grip on mine. I'm wondering what the difference from hogue grip to the wilson grip would be?
I pocket carry a 365 SAS. Talon grip tape makes it feel a lot better in my rather large hands and adds very little mass. Mostly just a rougher texture that makes the grip feel more controllable. Less than $20
He should add a Wilson Combat Pinky extension (it matches the Grip Mod) and install a MagGuts kit and he’d have 12 rounds without having to use the Sig Extended Base Mags
@@davidhudak4180so I was thinking of trying this out but don’t you have to use the magguts base plate it comes with in order for it to work? Or can you put the WC pinky extension base plate on after you install the magguts spring and internals? Been looking everywhere to see if someone has done this yet and I didn’t know if the magguts base plate HAD to be used for some reason in order for the whole +2 to work correctly. Thanks in advance man!
Why not just run p365 XL grip on the standard p365? The mag will work with a flat base plate conversion ($5 each mag). You will keep the beaver tail add on and the very slightly larger 1 piece grip (where the mags won't have the extention). Then the grips will be closer to identical
I bought the trigger initially, but then decided I didn’t want to try to replace it myself so I called them up. They explain how to ship it to them and I sent it in and they had it turned back around to me in six days.
The grip being wider kinda defeats the purpose of what the gun was designed for. Deep concealment. I like how they feel in the hand but i went back to the stock grip.
@@APTSynthesist I wouldn't go that far. The p365 is the easiest of the micro 9s to conceal. I shoot it well. It strikes the perfect balance for me. Have a dot on it and i literally almost forget I'm carrying it. I can get hits out to 100 yards with it and I think I'm up to 5500 rounds on that little gun.......
The stock Module scratches with the most insignificant of scuffs compared to plastics on other models. Sigg also uses inferior metal. I went back to carrying a Glock.
Sorry but i hate the back grip, it is too aggressive for conceal carry, i need to sand it down. And also the beaver tail also. This is not for tactical or precision, it is for conceal and defend, so smaller and smoother, and lighter with for capacity is what you need. The original fit all, But lol i like the look of the Wilson. Just need to sand and buff work 😂
I get it I carried it for two years and went back-and-forth between the original group module in the Wilson combat… For what it’s worth, I went back to carrying a Glock
Not many pros of these - the hype def did not equate to reality for me. Front and rear strap stippling is WAY too aggressive, shape of grip is better on stock Sig grip, thumb rest has a sharp transition - Wilson should have made that area smooth like the stock grip. All in all - waste of 60 bucks plus the issues many encounter with the fcu falling apart when they try and install this.
If 3/16 of an inch makes THAT much in your concealment, you need to stop wearing skin-tight shirts. Nobody can get their faces out of their phones nowadays…nobody is gonna notice you waistband.
So let me get this straight. You like the extra “grippiness” but you don’t like the fact that it’s wider and bigger?! You need to invent your own physics my friend because what you are asking for I’m afraid is physically impossible!
Agreed, but even still, when *you’re* the one handling and dealing with and looking at the gun 99.9% of the time, you want your shit to look nice. It’s like wearing good/nice looking socks when wearing long pants, like 99.9% of the time you’re the only one who sees or knows or cares and sometimes you just want to have nice looking shit.
funny… I merely said the word ‘aesthetics’ but you are the one who apparently derives a ‘ho’mosexual’ context from that terminology so maybe you should figure your own disposition out there bud
Pretty sure you can find aftermarket magazine grip pieces that are Wilson Combat brand and will perfectly match the Wilson Combat grip module. Well, minus the exact one I want for my P320 WC grip module. Its been sold out foreeeeever 🥲🥲🥲🥲
Have carried the 365 for a couple of years now, was thinking of getting that Grip Module and I think I will now. Thanks for the detailed look at it.
Thanks for checking it out. Looks like you need the P365XL Grip Module too👍
Arriving tomorrow!
I bought the Wilson Combat for the extra girth. On a whim I ordered the tungsten weights. It changes the whole personality of the gun. It shoots like a 26. It may even be less perceived recoil for me than the 26. It is 1 ounce lighter than the 26 with the weights and it does that with a much lighter slide. It weighs 20.5 ounces with an empty Magguts 10 to 12 round kit. The grip with the weights improve the handling and recoil immensely and the 365 wasn’t bad to begin with. The 43 is not fun to shoot. I could go broke way before tired running the 365.
Nice, where did you get the weights
@@APTSynthesist Wilson Combat sells them, they go in the WC grip module.
You may need some sort of grease and such for rattling.
@@noahwilliams2258 I have the weights for the P320 WC module. I used a piece of blue painters tape on each weight until they fit tight.
I found the weights to be too heavy or make the gun feel so. Removed 2 out of 3 of them and like it more now
@@PointWithin1.5 extra ounces is “too heavy” 😂
I went to Armory Craft and got the Wilson Combat mag base plate with the pinky extension and it looks great now.
I added the WC XL grip module (with tungsten weight set) for my P365 and I can shoot tighter groups faster and more accurately, than with the factory grip module. I also purchased Tactical Development magazine base pads, which are longer front to back and fit the WC grip module perfectly.
Thanks I’ll check out those base pads
I really like the Talon grips I put on my P365. Only $20 and easy to install
I replaced the stock grip on my standard P365 with the Wilson Combat P365XL module. I agree fully on the aesthetics and the grip texture of the Wilson - both major improvements over the stock SIG grip. But what you list as a "con" of the Wilson - the wider grip - is actually a "pro" for me. I have fairly big hands, and I was going to sell my P365 due to the small grip until I realized that I could install the larger XL grip module on a standard 365. (Yes, you have to buy new XL magazines.). It's made it a completely different, and infinitely more comfortable, gun.
I also recently bought the WC P320 X-Carry, which of course already has the WC grip module on it, in addition to all of the tweaks and improvements Wilson made to the base 320. What a phenomenal gun! Still not as good as my Wilson Combat EDC X9S, but much better than the stock P320.
Thanks
365Xl 12 round mag . Fits tight and looks great
Im going from a baby Glock26 to a p365 because the p365s slimmer profile for concealment. Im in search for a better grip but dont want to convert it to a glock which is onky 1/16 thicker than the wilson combat grip. Thanks. This is the exact video i needed to watch!
Great video . I fixed the issue by getting the 12 round larger grip module. The 12 round Sig mag comes with a flat bace plate it ver ergonomic
I was looking at one of these for the p320 a few days ago in the gun store. I think I’ll grab it next time.
I go back-and-forth on the P3 65 module but I keep it on the P3 20
I highly recommend it . i own one in 9mm & i live the way it feels & now with this new product from Wilson i will wanna carry it every day even more .
If it weren't for the thickness of the WC grip, why would any one buy it? Only for looks? I think the whole purpose of the WC grip is for the thickness. IMO, the stock grip on the P365 is to small in diameter and doesn't fill out your hands as bigger grips do. Others have complained about the stock grip not providing that gap between your fingers and your palm for your support hand.
I have big hands and wear XXL gloves, so the P365 with the Wilson Combat XL grip module gives me enough room to get 3 fingers on the grip and makes me more accurate.
What feels better in hand is all that matters
I got them on my sigs love em
I use MagGuts for my 10rd and 12rd mags and now it’s perfect
Never heard of that
Great Video! I just bought the P365 in .380 and I'm really trying hard to stick with my 500-1000rds. break-in with the stock grip module, but man it sure is hard to resist just going for it, the WC Mod turns the 365 into an absolute stunner! 🤩
Who knows, if these P365 Modules sell big and customer requests start flooding WC's inbox, maybe they'll start offering floor plates for 365 mag's that match the starburst/texture design on their grip mod's. Bill Wilson has credited customer demand for a number of WC's product offerings, so it is possible if enough people start requesting matching floor plates..
It's something to think about.. 🤔😉😂
I have 3 P365 and 2 P320 WC modules. Very very happy with shot and carry. I found appendix carry with the P365 WC to be a lot better because of the rounded beaver tail.
Just out of curiosity, why do you have so many? Are they different or just to have a spares?
Clicked on the video because I was thinking of putting a gold flat-faced trigger on my original 365, so wanted to see what yours looked like. That said, I do agree with your assessment of the grip module for the most part. The wider grip is kind of a both sides of a coin deal as it feels better and offers better control but also slightly reduces concealability. I carry with a 10-round magazine for optimal concealment though, so in the end the wider girth is pretty negligible in comparison to the printing increase of the 12-round. I often carry a 12-round as a spare and that works well. For those who do carry with the extended mag, it would be cool if Wilson came out with a matching sleeve for the 12-round magazines to replace the stock one. I'd buy it even though I don't carry a 12-round mag in the gun. I did try to carry for a couple of weeks with the tungsten weights in the Wilson module, but the extra weight is noticeable, even if it is marginal. Those weights do increase the shootability of the gun, and I'm sure most would say it's bad practice to train with a variable different from a self-defense scenario.
Thank you for watching and the comment
I added the WC P365X module to my stock P365 and it eliminated the problem you had with the base. One more concern is if you wanted to add a Lima or Crimson laser, they won't fit the WC module.
Great info. Thank you
I'd be a bit worried how the back mating of the grip and mag extension feels on the palm of the hand. That's something that kinda drives me nuts with the G43.
The extra girth of the WC grip modules is a pro. IMO it's what drives the sale. As to esthetics, there are base pads for the 365XL 12 and 15 round mags that match the WC pattern and grip contour. I've purchased some from XL Tactical and IMO they compliment the appearance and intent of the Wilson Combat grip modules.
Thank you
Link?
Check into armory craft's pinky extension, they have one that goes with the Wilson Combat Starburst style.
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If you bought the model for the P365XL, you could fit your 12rnd mag in there with no issue. Just take off the added plastic at the base of the mag and swap base plate . Would fit perfect. Yes you could not use your 10 rnd mags but 10 rounds is not enough for most …many ppl carry 12 n 1 with the Sig. As I see you do as well
Thanks
👍🏻badass Sigs
Hey Jett, what's up my brother?
The thing I noticed about the Wilson Combat Grip is that it doesn't scratch up like the Sig grip. I got a P365 380 and the module has marks all over it. You can mark it up with your fingernail. Wilson grip doesn't have a mark on it after 2 range trips and 300 rounds. Sig module marked up the first day.
I noticed the same thing
Hey Boss , how you like that 380 ?
Cool beans 👌🏻
Lol I literally just said that phrase 2 minutes ago…and probably haven’t said it since the 90s, that’s weird
I only use a small grip module for pocket carry at church. I thus prefer the thinner profile of the stock grip. The other 6 days of the week I use a stock XL grip with a rubber Hogue grip sleeve. I suppose a WC grip would feel pretty similar in the hand as far as thickness is concerned.
While I still carried the P365, I actually went back to the stock grip just because of the slenderness of it… But right now I carry a Glock 26, so I really don’t have anything further to say
The mag guts spring and follower kit will turn your 12 round mag to a 14 round or the 10 round mag to a 12
Good review. I have an XL and considering a WC grip. Curious, since you have 2, if you prefer the shorter grip over the larger for concealment? I was even thinking about getting the smaller handle, original sized WC for my XL. Have you ever tried that?
Technically carrying Glock right now but went back to the stock Sig grip because overall smaller.
No mention how the Wilson combat grip effected the pistol at the range. Such as recoil management ,shot placement from old to new.
The WC grip module is nice, but I think the P365 is perfect the way it comes, they really nailed the perfect texture for grip and carry comfort
the ability to change the grip or the slide is amazing
I've been kicking around the idea of getting a WC module for my p365. I have 2 to 3Xl hands but am worried about the extra size for printing since I carry mine in the pocket. Now I have already put a hogue grip on mine. I'm wondering what the difference from hogue grip to the wilson grip would be?
Ask yourself, doesn’t work for you? I’m not selling products… I’m just making subtle videos
I pocket carry a 365 SAS. Talon grip tape makes it feel a lot better in my rather large hands and adds very little mass. Mostly just a rougher texture that makes the grip feel more controllable. Less than $20
there are matching WC 12 round base pads for the P365..so the aesthetics line up.. as well as a longer WC P365XL grip
Oh yeah? I’m gonna have to go look for that
I agree the 12 round magazine on the Wilson looks like an afterthought.🙅🏼
He should add a Wilson Combat Pinky extension (it matches the Grip Mod) and install a MagGuts kit and he’d have 12 rounds without having to use the Sig Extended Base Mags
@@davidhudak4180so I was thinking of trying this out but don’t you have to use the magguts base plate it comes with in order for it to work? Or can you put the WC pinky extension base plate on after you install the magguts spring and internals? Been looking everywhere to see if someone has done this yet and I didn’t know if the magguts base plate HAD to be used for some reason in order for the whole +2 to work correctly. Thanks in advance man!
Did it change your reset? I have a false reset click with my WC grip
I don’t run this particular configuration anymore but I don’t recall having a false reset
Why not just run p365 XL grip on the standard p365?
The mag will work with a flat base plate conversion ($5 each mag).
You will keep the beaver tail add on and the very slightly larger 1 piece grip (where the mags won't have the extention).
Then the grips will be closer to identical
Maybe I’ll try that
Would holsters that are meant for the P365 will they work with the WC grip module?
Grip module had no effect on holster selection…
I run stock grips but I add Talon grip tape to the smooth parts. Adds to the grip while staying OEM.
Another two cons that should also be noted are Sig’s proprietary rail that no one wants and no gas pedals added to the Wilson Combat grip.
Yeah good points
I hope it fits my hand good idk why they passed up the opportunity to fix the front rail
Exactly, why not give it a decent rail
Does the plastic scratch as easily as the SIG OEM Grip Shell?
Sig OEM scratches more
Can you use an xl or x Wilson grip on the small/basic p365?
Not entirely sure on all the configurations… But I think the Wilson combat website has a chart that explains it
@@APTSynthesist Feom that chart it looks like you can, but just has the note that you cannot use 10rd mags, which of course is obviously the case.
How did you put the flat face trigger on the p365? I want one for mines.
I sent mine to Sig
@@APTSynthesist did it break before or do they offer gunsmithing services for upgrades? How did you go about doing it?
I bought the trigger initially, but then decided I didn’t want to try to replace it myself so I called them up. They explain how to ship it to them and I sent it in and they had it turned back around to me in six days.
Help: Does the Wilson grip need a specific holster???
Both my P365 and my P320 fit in the same holsters they did with the stock grip modules.
Sounds like a Florida back yard out there !
😂 fo sho
The grip being wider kinda defeats the purpose of what the gun was designed for. Deep concealment. I like how they feel in the hand but i went back to the stock grip.
I actually went back to the stock group too… Actually, I went back to the stock trip for about a half a year, then I went back to Glock
*grip
@@APTSynthesist I wouldn't go that far. The p365 is the easiest of the micro 9s to conceal. I shoot it well. It strikes the perfect balance for me. Have a dot on it and i literally almost forget I'm carrying it. I can get hits out to 100 yards with it and I think I'm up to 5500 rounds on that little gun.......
@adventurfly879 awesome… Just not into the “micro 9” thing anymore. Stay safe out there.
Which p365 do you prefer for carry?
Regular sized
"Eyesore"? What happens when you pull the trigger?
What happens is what is supposed to happen
Does the wilson provide a higher grip, any less muzzle flip?
Can’t really say anything on the grip being higher other than I like it
Did dude drop the camera at the end of the video? 🤣
🤷🏼♂️
Which glock are you carrying?
mostly G26, sometimes G19, G20 if in bear country
You even look at the stock module it gets scratched to shit. Doesn’t matter imho but honesty…whyyy.
The stock Module scratches with the most insignificant of scuffs compared to plastics on other models. Sigg also uses inferior metal. I went back to carrying a Glock.
Do you always play with loaded guns?
Every day, I also run with scissors
Beaver tail
Omg, not 3/16 on the smallest gun in the world. How would you even conceal it? lol I know what you mean though.
Price?
64.95$
You worried about the appearance of your weapon lol
Sorry but i hate the back grip, it is too aggressive for conceal carry, i need to sand it down. And also the beaver tail also. This is not for tactical or precision, it is for conceal and defend, so smaller and smoother, and lighter with for capacity is what you need. The original fit all, But lol i like the look of the Wilson. Just need to sand and buff work 😂
I get it I carried it for two years and went back-and-forth between the original group module in the Wilson combat… For what it’s worth, I went back to carrying a Glock
Not many pros of these - the hype def did not equate to reality for me. Front and rear strap stippling is WAY too aggressive, shape of grip is better on stock Sig grip, thumb rest has a sharp transition - Wilson should have made that area smooth like the stock grip.
All in all - waste of 60 bucks plus the issues many encounter with the fcu falling apart when they try and install this.
Fair
If 3/16 of an inch makes THAT much in your concealment, you need to stop wearing skin-tight shirts. Nobody can get their faces out of their phones nowadays…nobody is gonna notice you waistband.
I love the grip but it’s tearing my shirts up lol
Ha
So let me get this straight. You like the extra “grippiness” but you don’t like the fact that it’s wider and bigger?!
You need to invent your own physics my friend because what you are asking for I’m afraid is physically impossible!
No, I don’t need to ‘invent my own physics’… Texture in itself is a concept that exists independent of dimension… Maybe you think a little more
All I heard was "naked" and "bulging"
Lol..don’t look to hard in past videos you likely see both
I’m sure the person you shoot when you are in fear for your life will absolutely care that your mag texture doesn’t match your Wilson grip module.🙄🤢👎
Pointless and stupid comment
Agreed, but even still, when *you’re* the one handling and dealing with and looking at the gun 99.9% of the time, you want your shit to look nice. It’s like wearing good/nice looking socks when wearing long pants, like 99.9% of the time you’re the only one who sees or knows or cares and sometimes you just want to have nice looking shit.
“It’s got the aesthetics” 😂 so gay
funny… I merely said the word ‘aesthetics’ but you are the one who apparently derives a ‘ho’mosexual’ context from that terminology so maybe you should figure your own disposition out there bud
ALWAY CLEAR YOUR GUN BEFORE HANDLING IT FOR THIS PURPOSES. You are handling a gun with live rounds on the mag. thats a BIG NO.
OMG! So dangerous! A magazine with ammo in it!
@@APTSynthesist horrifying!
😂
Seems to me with the Wilson grip you get less palm pinching from the short grip and mag.
Pretty sure you can find aftermarket magazine grip pieces that are Wilson Combat brand and will perfectly match the Wilson Combat grip module. Well, minus the exact one I want for my P320 WC grip module. Its been sold out foreeeeever 🥲🥲🥲🥲
Haven’t seen those but it’s been a minute since I’ve made this video