It’s so refreshing to hear someone that actually takes photos and intensely uses the camera instead of someone that just reviews cameras. Just bought your ebook, congratulations
Great video, was happy with the thoroughness of topics you covered. I shoot the A7III for portraits but use my A7RIII exclusively for my landscape work. Couldn't agree with your points, good and the bad, more! Wishing you a speedy recovery on your back pain. I'm currently afflicted with Lyme Disease and understand the frustration of not being able to get out like I'm used to. Get better soon!
Hope you recover from Lyme Disease soon. I had something like it many years ago and it just took time to get over it. In fact, I just saw last night that some people are having a tough time getting over COVID-19 and their symptoms are lasting a month or more.
I say it is because it’s 42mp which is amazing for landscape photography, good enough auto focus but a lot of people use manual focus for landscape photography, and great high I do performance
When I went digital from my Minolta Maxxum I picked Sony because the lenses I had could be used on the Sony. At present I'm using an A7R III and after many years of use I have retired my final A-mount lens and adapter. My only disappointment so far was upgrading from the A77 to the A7R III and finding the rear screen is no longer fully articulated. I might consider upgrading when the A7R V comes out but that would depend on the spec and features.
I just purchased a new A7R3 a few months ago and am really happy with it. I'm also having a ball with cheap adapters to use old Minolta and Nikon fully manual lenses on it.
Have had mine since release and expect to keep it for many more years. Also suffer from chronic low back pain and it definitely will affect your ability to take pics
Thanks for the awesome review/reflection on the a7riii. I'm definitely going this way be it second . I've got neck and arm injury so was looking to save weight where I could, and this has just cemented my choice
Hi Mads, are you sure that the rear LCD actually died? What happens easily on these cameras is that you get either a water drop or perhaps some salt water residue on the eye sensor by the EVF. When that happens it appears that the rear LCD has failed but it's actually just that it thinks that your eye is at the EVF due to contamination on the eye detect sensor - it is very common. Simply wiping off the eye detection sensor brings the rear LCD back.
I agree with you on prices of Sony lenses, but I still love my Sony a6600. I probably won't go to Canon either although I still love their cameras and lenses but the Sony works better for me, I do street-urban and motorsports and sometimes I need to upload to my phone and my a6600 links up fast to my phone. My experience with the Canon Camera Connect app was usually a pain and it would disconnect at times. The Sony app is so much better. A losing all that camera gear weight is a big plus.
Thanks Mads, very interesting even as a Canon APSC shooter. I'm planning to go mirrorless full frame in the next 12-24 months and have just found the Canon range to be soooo rugged and liked the fact that their mirrorless cameras did automatically protect the sensor ...oh... and flippy screen! can't afford the new R5 price but will be looking at Sony v Canon when I upgrade and by then the S7RIV will definitely be in the running as I've a few good APSC lenses I will have to hang onto for a while so the APSC crop mode on the A7RIV will still be great resolution. My main reservation is lenses...like you said the Sony G master are stupid prices and I'm reading great things about the Canon RF lenses ....when I can afford them. Decisions, decisions!! Hope your back is better soon. Always look forward to you episodes. Come back to UK soon and do something with pebbles and owner !! :-)
Hi Steve, yeah, I am looking forward to seeing what Canon has up their sleeve with the R5. If not for anything just more competition ;) Would love to go back to the UK and team up with Nigel. It'll happen at some point :)
Another great video, Mads :-) I'm getting more serious in landscape photography (I'm a portrait guy) and would like you opinion about the Sony A7iii. Is it sufficient for landscape or should I go for the R version ?
I use a Sony a7iii for video. The results are fantastic! But for Photographiy I consider to buy a a7Riii or a7Riv, specially because I want to enlarge them very big.
It's a good question. It depends on how big prints you want to make and the end goal in general. The upscaling technology is really good these days and the type/quality of print also highly influences the sharpness of the photo. 24mp is likely sufficient in most cases.
articulated screen is for videomaker. this camera its not for videomakers. most photographer hate the articulated screen! please stop asking articulated screen to photographer camera!
Sony will be caught on Thursday when Canon releases its new R5 model. Sony has done well to capture the market in the last few years - great tech and gear, but this is also down to Canon having been abysmal in responding to Sony's gain. Nikon have also done well with the Z7 and 6. Sony's lenses are very good quality but priced at a ridiculous level - as its users also note. Maybe more competition will spark increased innovation in the next few years - although gear ios so expensive many will return to the tried and tested workhorses and carry on rather than engaging with the same business model as Apple etc, keeping up with the Joneses and having the latest thing!
I agree, Canon got complacent/lazy (and I say that as a long time Canon shooter) and Nikon to an extent too. Canon finally woke up and realised they needed to get innovative again I think Thursday will mark the day Canon come out fighting as they took the time to get some great lenses out their with a stop-gap body (as opposed to Nikon who did the opposite). Sony won't stand still but I can't see MP needing to go higher than the 60MP they have now so it more dynamic range, weather proofing, software, ergonomics etc that they will focus on. Why camera companies don't really let some of the techies improvise with their systems to see what they can do is beyond me. I can't see many Sony users needing to switch to Canon but if prices drop quickly enough it might mean Canon shooters like me stay with them rather than swap systems. Time will tell.
@@SteveP_2426 Thanks for your thoughts, Steve. I hope Canon come out fighting as they really dropped the ball letting Sony gain like that. I like you fear that the ex canon shooters are gone now as they won't want to spend £8k+ on a new set up again (lower if you substitute lenses, which is what I will do on this new body - EF L lenses with canon adapter - and the prices reduce over time). Canon missed the final leap to 50-60MP and customers with it, but they may gain in the 8k video space (massive hard drive requirement and faster processors ahoy!), but again, Sony and Nikon will adjust. Let's hope Thursday is a good day - one we have all been waiting forever for - or so it feels! Cheers :)
@@Art_In_Image Yes go and type in google Photonstophotos,this is Bill Claff's dynamic range library is prytty great library..and you will see your self that it has the same fanstastic dynamic range,you can also go in Dpreview studio exposure latitude,go and download a7r3 and D610 raw files underexposed by 5 stops,and again you will see yourself.
Can't beat the a7Rii right now, IMHO. Same sensor as the A7Riii, but half the price. Smaller body, albeit with worse battery life. I prefer the shooting experience-- the focus points are actually visible, unlike the a7Riii. Absolutely love my Rii for street and cityscape.
Thank you Mads. Your videos are very helpful. I’m a 65 year old inthusest. Looking to upgrade from Sony aps to full frame. a7R III or SONY a7 III with a couple of Tamron lenses. 17-28 and 28-200. What do you think.
Please , please, please Sony never implement a fully articulated screen ! Keep a fast , simple and discrete tilting screen and just implement the Fuji XT3 solution which allows to tilt in both directions.
I prefer the tilting screen as well, and not just because of the L-Bracket. I recently picked up an A7S III, and it is not natural feeling to look off to the side of the camera (and away from your subject) with the fully articulating screen swung out all the way. I found the tilting screen on my D850 and D750 to feel much more intuitive.
protip: if you cant take a decent photo (lets exclude pro sports or -50c K2 peak) with any modern FF, it's only on you. everything else is pixelpeeping. go outside, work with what you have. there's joy in the discipline of overcoming quirks and odds. yesterday i mounted FD 50mm 1.4 on A7R II while local salesman was screeching about muh busy bokeh. invest in lenses or just have fun, every piece of glass has different character, its up to you to recognize that and utilize it the best way you can. if you end up having 15 brand new lenses and unscratched camera youre building a collection, not a portfolio.
I hope the A7R3 will still work for landscape photography. I would hate to point my camera at a scene, push the shutter, and nothing happen. Sorry. Couldn't resist. :)
Subscribed :) Seen a few of your videos now (remember the voice lol) Hopefully upgrading soon from the d750 to the a7r3, question tho... any recommendations for lens adapters for nikon to sony? As you know, sony lenses are EXPENSIVE!! Also the main reason is for astrophotography and for our tours to Iceland. I'm From Ireland and we run a few trips each year to Iceland for our Photo Tours. Love the Place! Must watch out for you ;) lol
Hehe, welcome on board, Brian. Not really advice as I don't use Nikon. I wouldn't really recommend adapters either. Rather go for some theirs party lenses then.
Thank you Mads. I think we over worry about dirt in the sensor. I live in Oman , which is mostly desert. I quite often change lenses in sand dunes !! Never had an issue. I also traveled to Antarctica with my aR7iii. Again I didn’t have trouble swapping lenses in wet and snowy conditions. Mind you, I make concerted efforts to shield the sensor when swapping lenses. 99% of time it works.
That's really nice to hear. My issue with dust spots seems rather random. Many small ones build up over time and randomly one big finds its way to the sensor.
Another great blog Mads ! I wish you a speedy recovery with your back . I shoot with Canon 5DSR .. I love the sizes of the images it produces and it’s resolution I love . But it requires the latest most expensive lenses from Canon to cope with the resolution . So I chose a Ziess lens and pretty happy with the results it delivers compared to the canon L lenses.
Mads Peter Iversen well to be very honest I bought my Ziess Distagon f2.8 15mm once used for cheaper than a new or used 16/35mm Canon mkII L lens. I personally feel everything about the Ziess out performs the canon 16/35mm and the Ziess has no plastic.
I will say, not EVERYONE wants a fully articulating screen. I HATE not having the screen on the same axis as the lens, and trying to hold the camera with the screen out to the side is incredibly awkward. I specifically returned my A7 IV in favor of the A7R III due to this irritation. The X-T5 is very nice in this regard in that it allows flipping the screen out in both landscape and portrait orientation without having the screen exposed or hanging off the side of the camera the way the fully articulated screens do.
I just picked up a a7 iii with the 28-70mm kit lens and was looking at buying a decent lens for nlandscape photos, but do you think I should trade up for the A7R3 and pay the extra... I'm tempted, but no-one I speak to has supported this decision. They said there's no point going up to the R3 unless you plan to shoot for billboards or large prints.
I hope you will be better soon Mads ! I like this vlog even though I'm not a Sony shooter. I'm going to stay with Canon and go with the new R-system ( R5 and RF lenses ). At this moment i have the Canon 5DSR and the first mirrorless R. Love the smaller R-system and the fully flip out screen, i get it why you want this ;). Hopefully the dynamic range on the new Canon R5 is as good as the Sony.
Like you, I've got my R3 3 years ago, and for landscape photo it's a must. It should be my last camera (I'm getting old... :o) ), because so huge potential, it's hard to imagine that we have used all the potential of this camera.
I use the a7r2 and a LOT of batteries 🤣 fair play to it though it fell into a barrel of water and after 7 days in a box of rice it kept working! I do get worried about it in the rain but the a7r3 is still too expensive for me 😥
At this point I've used Canon, Nikon, Panasonic(Micro 4/3), Olympus, Fujifilm, and now Sony. I started out with the A7R iii and I love it. The menus are a bit challenging, but otherwise it's great :)
Awesome review. So for low light long exposure, A7Riii, 5Div, A7iii, x-t4, if you are to make a list from 1 to 4, how will you do it? Key is less noise, sharpness and true Colors.
Sounds like a 5D Mark IV would also have been a great choice. Seriously, as opposed to your level of technical and artistic prowess, any of the major camera brands produce cameras that would not be the limiting factor for most of us who are not at your level. My advice is always pick your first system carefully, invest in camera, lenses and accessories for that system and then stick with it.
Yeah, for night photography it was great, but I did find the 30mp slightly limiting when used to the 50. That being said it likely wouldn't have made a big difference in the big picture.
I moved over to sony last year from Canon, to the A7R3. Have to say how much I agree. Dynamic range and detail blew me away. Didn't take me long to get my head round the menu and saved settings principles. Was considering the A7r4 recently but decided to stay with the A7R3..
Hi Mads, great video! Have owned the A7RIII since September last year, after having upgraded from the A7III, and just love it to bits! As for the hot shoe, here's a good solution for you, and anyone else concerned with moisture in that area... Pickup the Nikon BS-3 hotshoe cover; it's the same cover that ships with the Nikon D5 DSLR, and is available separately for something like $12 USD, and is an excellent fit on the Sony Alpha 7 bodies. Not a completely air-tight fit mind you, but offers great protection for the hotshoe and doesn't look totally out of place on it, and no externally visible Nikon branding ;)
Sorry to hear you have sidelined a bit with back problem Mads. Hope the recovery is going well. I would say your thoughts and views were well balanced and you have produced memorable content that is testament to what can be achieved with the Sony. With the R5 being unveiled this week, it will be interesting to see the full specs and features and the price and whether canon tempts existing canon users to upgrade or other users to jump across.
@@MadsPeterIversen Thanks Mads for the response, I really appreciate it. Though for me maybe an upgrade would benefit in the long run, but with all the things happening around the world, pandemic and economic recession, I think I'll just hold on to what I have at the moment and get to know my camera better while having fun with it. And hopefully when things get better after the pandemic, maybe an upgrade will be back in the picture. Keep sharing your knowledge and experience in photography as it inspires most of us. Keep safe and best regards!
@@bravosixgoingdark9337 To you too, if your camera works for you then just hang on to it. I've reached a point where I really value the practicalities of upgrades more than picture quality :)
I moved from Sony A7II to A7RIV and while the 60MP is great it doesn’t handle higher ISO so well - I limit to 3200. The main benefit for me has been the body ergo upgrade
I sold my A7RIII and bought a XT3 for landscape photography after using Sony for 5 years, sold my gmasters as well. I love the colors and files straight out of the XT3 and the feel of using the camera. The Fuji lags more than the Sony, the Fuji has better glass to price point for lenses, the Sony has better dynamic range, the Fuji has better color science in my eyes, Sony you have to work the file into looking natural.... etc, ya da ya da . I always operate better and I feel more creative when I feel restricted by my gear. It forces me to be more creative and to push everything to its best. With the Sony I felt like photography was too easy
That’s interesting. I’m considering to go the other way: switch from Fuji to Sony. I’ve been playing with the a7riii for about a month and I feel it’s challenging for me. Achieving sharp focus across the frame when taking a landscape photo (or on people with large apertures) is more difficult to achieve than it has been with my Fuji. In that regard, the cropped sensor offers an advantage. I’ve also noticed the challenge when editing, the larger resolution files require more fine tuning than the cropped sensor files. What is that you find challenging about Fuji cameras?
@@JJ-vp3bd For my purposes, the 24-105 is a flexible and sharp general-purpose lens. The 20 mm is 'better', but more specialist. I haven't used it, but it looks like an excellent lens for landscapes and low-light work. I'd assess how much you're shooting wide, and whether you'll use the 1.8 (astrophotography etc). 24 mm is usually wide enough for me, and during the day I'm typically at f/8 for any landscape stuff anyway, so the zoom lens works great. I'm mostly a wildlife photographer though. Check with Mads, he's my landscape guru ;)
I have always had Sony cameras since the Minolta days and at present I have the A77ii (APS-C) which has a rotating and screen. I am planning to upgrade to A7RII or even IV in the near future to have a full frame camera and your video was very informative for me.
At least the A7RIII doesn't have the 'Invalid Operation' Button. On the early Sony SLT bodies there was a dedicated digital teleconverter button that if you selected RAW or RAW+JPEG would just give a screen that said 'Invalid Operation' when pressed.
Hi, I have just subscribed to your video’s - you have provided a well constructed review of this camera. I use the NIKON D850 and have a bundle of lenses for it. Now I am considering the SONY a7R iii or similar thanks to your unbiased and directness (a Scottish viewer)
I personally don't think the Sony GM lenses are excessively expensive if you compare them with similar high end mirrorless lenses from Canon and Nikon. Canon and Nikon dslr lenses will be cheaper through the volumes they have already sold having recoup the tooling and research costs a long time ago. I doubt the future sales of mirrorless lenses will ever match past quantities of dslr lenses as the ILC camera market is now shrinking.
Dumb title. Of course the A7r3 is still good to use. One reason, and probably the most important I haven’t moved over to the a7r4 is because I don’t want to spend the money. And also because I don’t need 60+ pixels. Don’t need that. 42 is good
Hi. Good video. I have an A7R2. I want to upgrade. If shooting only landscapes would you recommend that I upgrade to the A7R3 or the A7R4? Also what about as a general purpose camera?
Awesome video. I upgraded from the RII to the RIII in March and am very happy with it. I tried out a family member's RIV, and for what I do it didn't warrant the extra price tag. Now the RIII is my main camera with the RII being a backup/second camera. The 100-400 on the RIII is a whole different level than it was on the RII and that made the upgrade worth it alone. Love using it with the 24GM and 15mm Voigtlander f/4.5 as well.
THANK YOU . I Have the 7R and I am ready for a new camera. Is the 7R # the way to go, or a new NIKON z&?. I own some good NIKON glass and the D800. which I hate. Any thoughts?
Well ... I don‘t know if Sony‘s GM lens prices are really that high. Compared to Canon RF and Nikon F/Z they look not particular more expensive, compared to similar product lines. The crazy thing about the A7R3 is that it is still ... in 2021 ... a great camera and prices are really good right now. Maybe I‘ll buy one ... 42MP is a sweetspot in my eyes. It‘s big enough and still can be handled pretty easy. I like your style of videos btw! Keep up with the great work. :)
One thing for sure, Sony won’t update firmware for sure. There is a RX1R2 petition asking Sony to provide firmware updates. Sony designed and manufactured the product, marketed it and move on to next gen.
The fact the the allen wrench inside your L bracket is rusty as f* makes it very believeable that you actually use your gear instead of just making youtube reviews from your couch :-) I wish you the very best and a quick recovery from your back pain and hope you can get out there again soon. On topic: I have an A7 III for one and half years now. I am very happy with the fact that it is as small as it is. If you want a big ass mirrorless camera, buy a Lumix S1. The A7 III/R III bodies are roughly the same size as the Panasonic GH4 MFT I use daily on my job, while being full frame. That was a very important factor in my buying decision. Is it a perfect camera? No, but I don't think any camera is. Life is full of compromises.
WTF - is a 42 megapixel camera with great battery life and a stunning array of lenses still worth using for landscapes. Are you serious? LOL I have not watched the video and am going to assume the answer is yes
Thx SeoMaster .... I’ll have a look at my home insurance... I was just wondering if you can insure something against this kind of damage? After all , we are essentially abusing our cameras when subjecting them to heavy rain (Which I do regularly)... Having said that most pro equipment is supposed to be weather proof, but I don’t thing manufacturer’s guarantee there equipment in this regard...
For landscape, this is probably the best in the Sony world. The A7iii AF-speed is not needed, the view-finder is much better, and the noise of the 61 MPixel sensor is not there
Hey Mads, sorry to hear about your back pain issues. This is something I’ve suffered from too. Would love to hear your thoughts on how you mitigate that while hiking with camera gear. Also I would love to hear any thoughts you may have on how to balance landscape with wildlife photography. Thanks for the videos and sharing your amazing images!
I'm not really sure that an upgrade just to close the shutter is really needed. It's really easy and takes 2 mins to clean your sensor. I'd rather see real-time eye AF like in the 6400 or a7riv.
I hope the A7R3 is worth buying because that's what I use. I still don't see the need to "upgrade" to the A7R4. In fact, I just added the a6600 and the two new aps-c lenses which I think will be fine for me when I don't want to use my full frame camera. Hope your back gets well soon.
Odd they don't have the articulated screen. Even the A99 and A99ii had one. I'm torn between the Riv or Riii upgrading from an A99ii. The A99ii and Riii are very similarly specced from what I see. Just the different mounts, so I'm not sure the Riii would be an upgrade for me. Thanks for your really helpful video. I should have said, I only shoot in a studio so I don't even use a lot of the features of my A99ii let alone the extras in these newer ones.
Hi Mads, great video and hope your back is ok. I got this camera a week before lockdown! good luck or bad luck?! really good to see your take on it as i'm still learning lots about photography and how to use my new camera. How weather sealed do you think the a7Riii is? I've not tested it fully but i will eventually...thanks Ben
Mads. Thanks for another great blog. I wonder if you could elaborate on why is that your work benefits from a high-res sensor. Is it helpful having the 42mp? Why did you choose the high-res-full-frame route? Thanks in advance and I hope you feel better soon.
Technically it is not fully exposed, there is a piece of glass in front. I don't find that to be a big issue though - more an annoyance of having to clean more.
@@MadsPeterIversen Yeah, that's what it comes down to. I don't wanna wet clean the sensor (or the glass pane in front of it) every time I come back from a shoot. Not that I'm afraid to touch the sensor or anything, but I imagine it to be so incredibly annoying. Maybe I'm just spoiled by Pentax's weather-sealing. haha
Always impressed with the real-world content of your videos and how helpful they are. I am a proudly owner of an A7RIII and can not agree more with all your comments.Thanks a lot
It looks like that the a7S III is just around the corner. Wonder if you will make a comparison to that one too when it comes out. If the rumors are true this could become a real amazing camera for landscape too.
I'm a Nikon user for more than 35 years and I was considering moving for Sony, mainly because I'm a bit tired of Nikon taking so much time to listen to their clients but I think this new Z mount is reserving some fantastic surprises so I'm staying to see. I don't know but could it be that they could put a bigger sensor, not medium format but bigger, with around 50Mpix with a low light and dinamic range performance that whould be the next bench mark? It's just a dream I know but why that big mount?
Mirrored my thoughts exactly Mads, though I still use a rainwater cover in bad weather, so the weather sealing could be better. I still think the dynamic range and low light performance on this camera is the best on the market, and like you, I find that I rarely have to exposure bracket shots. I hope you back gets better soon!
@@MadsPeterIversen My previous camera was an Olympus EM1 MK2, lovely camera to use, but the dynamic range was really poor. I also use a Fuji XT3, as a lightweight travel camera, better than the Olympus for dynamic range, but still not close to the A7R3.
Thanks for the video. I got my A7riii a year ago and im super happy with it. The only thing i could want is little bit better resolution on the screen and a fully articulated screen. Besides from that l will hang on to this camera for many more years. And the r4 is not interesting for me. Even if someone asked if I would swap it I wouldn’t. Hope you will recover soon.
It’s so refreshing to hear someone that actually takes photos and intensely uses the camera instead of someone that just reviews cameras. Just bought your ebook, congratulations
Great video, was happy with the thoroughness of topics you covered. I shoot the A7III for portraits but use my A7RIII exclusively for my landscape work. Couldn't agree with your points, good and the bad, more! Wishing you a speedy recovery on your back pain. I'm currently afflicted with Lyme Disease and understand the frustration of not being able to get out like I'm used to. Get better soon!
Hope you recover from Lyme Disease soon. I had something like it many years ago and it just took time to get over it. In fact, I just saw last night that some people are having a tough time getting over COVID-19 and their symptoms are lasting a month or more.
I say it is because it’s 42mp which is amazing for landscape photography, good enough auto focus but a lot of people use manual focus for landscape photography, and great high I do performance
I heard Sony is listening their customers, if so please we need firmware update for covering sensor while changing lenses. Please please help.
IF I understand you correctly, that is a hardware change.
When I went digital from my Minolta Maxxum I picked Sony because the lenses I had could be used on the Sony. At present I'm using an A7R III and after many years of use I have retired my final A-mount lens and adapter. My only disappointment so far was upgrading from the A77 to the A7R III and finding the rear screen is no longer fully articulated. I might consider upgrading when the A7R V comes out but that would depend on the spec and features.
I just purchased a new A7R3 a few months ago and am really happy with it. I'm also having a ball with cheap adapters to use old Minolta and Nikon fully manual lenses on it.
Have had mine since release and expect to keep it for many more years.
Also suffer from chronic low back pain and it definitely will affect your ability to take pics
Thanks for the awesome review/reflection on the a7riii. I'm definitely going this way be it second . I've got neck and arm injury so was looking to save weight where I could, and this has just cemented my choice
This is a great review, Mads!
Hi Mads, are you sure that the rear LCD actually died? What happens easily on these cameras is that you get either a water drop or perhaps some salt water residue on the eye sensor by the EVF. When that happens it appears that the rear LCD has failed but it's actually just that it thinks that your eye is at the EVF due to contamination on the eye detect sensor - it is very common. Simply wiping off the eye detection sensor brings the rear LCD back.
Like usual, excellent vidéo. simply superbe :) thank you Mads for sharing !!!
Great video. I love mine. I agree about the screen really annoying.Hope you recover soon. Keep safe.
I agree with you on prices of Sony lenses, but I still love my Sony a6600.
I probably won't go to Canon either although I still love their cameras and lenses but the Sony works better for me, I do street-urban and motorsports and sometimes I need to upload to my phone and my a6600 links up fast to my phone. My experience with the Canon Camera Connect app was usually a pain and it would disconnect at times. The Sony app is so much better.
A losing all that camera gear weight is a big plus.
Thanks Mads, very interesting even as a Canon APSC shooter. I'm planning to go mirrorless full frame in the next 12-24 months and have just found the Canon range to be soooo rugged and liked the fact that their mirrorless cameras did automatically protect the sensor ...oh... and flippy screen! can't afford the new R5 price but will be looking at Sony v Canon when I upgrade and by then the S7RIV will definitely be in the running as I've a few good APSC lenses I will have to hang onto for a while so the APSC crop mode on the A7RIV will still be great resolution. My main reservation is lenses...like you said the Sony G master are stupid prices and I'm reading great things about the Canon RF lenses ....when I can afford them. Decisions, decisions!! Hope your back is better soon. Always look forward to you episodes. Come back to UK soon and do something with pebbles and owner !! :-)
Hi Steve, yeah, I am looking forward to seeing what Canon has up their sleeve with the R5. If not for anything just more competition ;) Would love to go back to the UK and team up with Nigel. It'll happen at some point :)
@@MadsPeterIversen well now we know with R5. How I wish I had the cash! Hope to see you here then :-)
I got the A7riii. I picked it because you use it and Nick Page! Haha. Articulating screen, fully touch and more video settings would be nice.
haha...I'm here trying to decide if the A7R or A7II are good options...A7RII and III are out of reach for my budget.
Another great video, Mads :-) I'm getting more serious in landscape photography (I'm a portrait guy) and would like you opinion about the Sony A7iii. Is it sufficient for landscape or should I go for the R version ?
I use a Sony a7iii for video. The results are fantastic! But for Photographiy I consider to buy a a7Riii or a7Riv, specially because I want to enlarge them very big.
It's a good question. It depends on how big prints you want to make and the end goal in general. The upscaling technology is really good these days and the type/quality of print also highly influences the sharpness of the photo. 24mp is likely sufficient in most cases.
I think on a format of 100 x 150 cm. Can the a7Riii do that?
Erik, I recommend watching Nigel Danson videos on printing. That will answer your question.
Thanks Benjamin, i will have a look ...
articulated screen is for videomaker. this camera its not for videomakers. most photographer hate the articulated screen!
please stop asking articulated screen to photographer camera!
Sony will be caught on Thursday when Canon releases its new R5 model. Sony has done well to capture the market in the last few years - great tech and gear, but this is also down to Canon having been abysmal in responding to Sony's gain. Nikon have also done well with the Z7 and 6. Sony's lenses are very good quality but priced at a ridiculous level - as its users also note. Maybe more competition will spark increased innovation in the next few years - although gear ios so expensive many will return to the tried and tested workhorses and carry on rather than engaging with the same business model as Apple etc, keeping up with the Joneses and having the latest thing!
I agree, Canon got complacent/lazy (and I say that as a long time Canon shooter) and Nikon to an extent too. Canon finally woke up and realised they needed to get innovative again I think Thursday will mark the day Canon come out fighting as they took the time to get some great lenses out their with a stop-gap body (as opposed to Nikon who did the opposite). Sony won't stand still but I can't see MP needing to go higher than the 60MP they have now so it more dynamic range, weather proofing, software, ergonomics etc that they will focus on. Why camera companies don't really let some of the techies improvise with their systems to see what they can do is beyond me. I can't see many Sony users needing to switch to Canon but if prices drop quickly enough it might mean Canon shooters like me stay with them rather than swap systems. Time will tell.
@@SteveP_2426 Thanks for your thoughts, Steve. I hope Canon come out fighting as they really dropped the ball letting Sony gain like that. I like you fear that the ex canon shooters are gone now as they won't want to spend £8k+ on a new set up again (lower if you substitute lenses, which is what I will do on this new body - EF L lenses with canon adapter - and the prices reduce over time). Canon missed the final leap to 50-60MP and customers with it, but they may gain in the 8k video space (massive hard drive requirement and faster processors ahoy!), but again, Sony and Nikon will adjust. Let's hope Thursday is a good day - one we have all been waiting forever for - or so it feels! Cheers :)
Yoga, Mads. Yoga.. :)
The Canon RF lenses are also stupid $$$.
Are you insane? This is a fairly new camera ... this is not a smartphone to be upgraded every 2 years .... wtf
The old Nikon d610 has same dynamic range as a7r3...
Really ?
@@Art_In_Image Yes go and type in google Photonstophotos,this is Bill Claff's dynamic range library is prytty great library..and you will see your self that it has the same fanstastic dynamic range,you can also go in Dpreview studio exposure latitude,go and download a7r3 and D610 raw files underexposed by 5 stops,and again you will see yourself.
You posted the right video in right time. I needed this review from a landscape photographer
Many thanks ! a good review. I'm waiting for my A7Riii right now. Your photos are exceptional. !!!
Can't beat the a7Rii right now, IMHO. Same sensor as the A7Riii, but half the price. Smaller body, albeit with worse battery life. I prefer the shooting experience-- the focus points are actually visible, unlike the a7Riii. Absolutely love my Rii for street and cityscape.
Thank you Mads. Your videos are very helpful. I’m a 65 year old inthusest. Looking to upgrade from Sony aps to full frame. a7R III or SONY a7 III with a couple of Tamron lenses. 17-28 and 28-200. What do you think.
Please , please, please Sony never implement a fully articulated screen ! Keep a fast , simple and discrete tilting screen and just implement the Fuji XT3 solution which allows to tilt in both directions.
I prefer the tilting screen as well, and not just because of the L-Bracket. I recently picked up an A7S III, and it is not natural feeling to look off to the side of the camera (and away from your subject) with the fully articulating screen swung out all the way. I found the tilting screen on my D850 and D750 to feel much more intuitive.
protip: if you cant take a decent photo (lets exclude pro sports or -50c K2 peak) with any modern FF, it's only on you.
everything else is pixelpeeping. go outside, work with what you have. there's joy in the discipline of overcoming quirks and odds.
yesterday i mounted FD 50mm 1.4 on A7R II while local salesman was screeching about muh busy bokeh.
invest in lenses or just have fun, every piece of glass has different character, its up to you to recognize that and utilize it the best way you can.
if you end up having 15 brand new lenses and unscratched camera youre building a collection, not a portfolio.
I hope the A7R3 will still work for landscape photography. I would hate to point my camera at a scene, push the shutter, and nothing happen. Sorry. Couldn't resist. :)
Haha
This is why subed! Would you recommend the R3 to photographers who are in the process of mastering landscape and astrophotography?
+1
Subscribed :) Seen a few of your videos now (remember the voice lol) Hopefully upgrading soon from the d750 to the a7r3, question tho... any recommendations for lens adapters for nikon to sony? As you know, sony lenses are EXPENSIVE!! Also the main reason is for astrophotography and for our tours to Iceland. I'm From Ireland and we run a few trips each year to Iceland for our Photo Tours. Love the Place! Must watch out for you ;) lol
Hehe, welcome on board, Brian. Not really advice as I don't use Nikon. I wouldn't really recommend adapters either. Rather go for some theirs party lenses then.
Thank you Mads. I think we over worry about dirt in the sensor. I live in Oman , which is mostly desert. I quite often change lenses in sand dunes !! Never had an issue. I also traveled to Antarctica with my aR7iii. Again I didn’t have trouble swapping lenses in wet and snowy conditions. Mind you, I make concerted efforts to shield the sensor when swapping lenses. 99% of time it works.
That's really nice to hear. My issue with dust spots seems rather random. Many small ones build up over time and randomly one big finds its way to the sensor.
Another great blog Mads ! I wish you a speedy recovery with your back . I shoot with Canon 5DSR .. I love the sizes of the images it produces and it’s resolution I love . But it requires the latest most expensive lenses from Canon to cope with the resolution . So I chose a Ziess lens and pretty happy with the results it delivers compared to the canon L lenses.
Thanks a lot, Ross! Sounds good to go with Zeiss, but also expensive ;)
Mads Peter Iversen well to be very honest I bought my Ziess Distagon f2.8 15mm once used for cheaper than a new or used 16/35mm Canon mkII L lens. I personally feel everything about the Ziess out performs the canon 16/35mm and the Ziess has no plastic.
Get - Sigma Art 40mm f1.4
Best resolving lens
Is 'X' still worth buying for landscape photography? Is more than likely 'yes' if X newer than 15 years old. Its about the tool behind the camera.
I will say, not EVERYONE wants a fully articulating screen. I HATE not having the screen on the same axis as the lens, and trying to hold the camera with the screen out to the side is incredibly awkward. I specifically returned my A7 IV in favor of the A7R III due to this irritation. The X-T5 is very nice in this regard in that it allows flipping the screen out in both landscape and portrait orientation without having the screen exposed or hanging off the side of the camera the way the fully articulated screens do.
I just picked up a a7 iii with the 28-70mm kit lens and was looking at buying a decent lens for nlandscape photos, but do you think I should trade up for the A7R3 and pay the extra... I'm tempted, but no-one I speak to has supported this decision. They said there's no point going up to the R3 unless you plan to shoot for billboards or large prints.
Hi Mads. I got the Canon R5 and I hate it. I can get the SONY 7R3A NEW for 1900. As a SONY lover should I buy it? THX. G
I hope you will be better soon Mads !
I like this vlog even though I'm not a Sony shooter. I'm going to stay with Canon and go with the new R-system ( R5 and RF lenses ).
At this moment i have the Canon 5DSR and the first mirrorless R.
Love the smaller R-system and the fully flip out screen, i get it why you want this ;).
Hopefully the dynamic range on the new Canon R5 is as good as the Sony.
I've actually been considering both the R and the 5DS R, how do the images compare between the 2?
Like you, I've got my R3 3 years ago, and for landscape photo it's a must. It should be my last camera (I'm getting old... :o) ), because so huge potential, it's hard to imagine that we have used all the potential of this camera.
what lenses you use
I use the a7r2 and a LOT of batteries 🤣 fair play to it though it fell into a barrel of water and after 7 days in a box of rice it kept working! I do get worried about it in the rain but the a7r3 is still too expensive for me 😥
At this point I've used Canon, Nikon, Panasonic(Micro 4/3), Olympus, Fujifilm, and now Sony. I started out with the A7R iii and I love it. The menus are a bit challenging, but otherwise it's great :)
Awesome review. So for low light long exposure, A7Riii, 5Div, A7iii, x-t4, if you are to make a list from 1 to 4, how will you do it? Key is less noise, sharpness and true Colors.
I'm looking to buy riii or riv cant make the decision I'm a little worried that riii is outdated in 2023
Sounds like a 5D Mark IV would also have been a great choice. Seriously, as opposed to your level of technical and artistic prowess, any of the major camera brands produce cameras that would not be the limiting factor for most of us who are not at your level. My advice is always pick your first system carefully, invest in camera, lenses and accessories for that system and then stick with it.
Yeah, for night photography it was great, but I did find the 30mp slightly limiting when used to the 50. That being said it likely wouldn't have made a big difference in the big picture.
Great video.. Do you have a Playlist of more 5ds videos? Now the price is really low and appealing 🙂
I moved over to sony last year from Canon, to the A7R3. Have to say how much I agree. Dynamic range and detail blew me away. Didn't take me long to get my head round the menu and saved settings principles. Was considering the A7r4 recently but decided to stay with the A7R3..
A bit of gaffer or electrical tape over the hot shoe usually takes care of problems with the hot shoe in wet weather.
Very interesting for low light issue, I heard always that sensor with lots of pixels makes lots of noises in low light, not true?
Hi Mads, great video! Have owned the A7RIII since September last year, after having upgraded from the A7III, and just love it to bits! As for the hot shoe, here's a good solution for you, and anyone else concerned with moisture in that area... Pickup the Nikon BS-3 hotshoe cover; it's the same cover that ships with the Nikon D5 DSLR, and is available separately for something like $12 USD, and is an excellent fit on the Sony Alpha 7 bodies. Not a completely air-tight fit mind you, but offers great protection for the hotshoe and doesn't look totally out of place on it, and no externally visible Nikon branding ;)
Sorry to hear you have sidelined a bit with back problem Mads. Hope the recovery is going well. I would say your thoughts and views were well balanced and you have produced memorable content that is testament to what can be achieved with the Sony. With the R5 being unveiled this week, it will be interesting to see the full specs and features and the price and whether canon tempts existing canon users to upgrade or other users to jump across.
Cool video. But I rather clean the sensor once in a while than have the risk of damaging the shutter while changing lenses.
A fully articulating screen doesn't work well with an L bracket though.
And here I am shooting with a 17 year old camera and winning an architectural photo competition with it a year ago. Hahaha!
Exactly, it's kinda also my point of the video. You don't need the latest and "greatest" ;)
@@MadsPeterIversen Thanks Mads for the response, I really appreciate it. Though for me maybe an upgrade would benefit in the long run, but with all the things happening around the world, pandemic and economic recession, I think I'll just hold on to what I have at the moment and get to know my camera better while having fun with it. And hopefully when things get better after the pandemic, maybe an upgrade will be back in the picture. Keep sharing your knowledge and experience in photography as it inspires most of us. Keep safe and best regards!
@@bravosixgoingdark9337 To you too, if your camera works for you then just hang on to it. I've reached a point where I really value the practicalities of upgrades more than picture quality :)
I moved from Sony A7II to A7RIV and while the 60MP is great it doesn’t handle higher ISO so well - I limit to 3200. The main benefit for me has been the body ergo upgrade
I still use the 1ds mark ii
I sold my A7RIII and bought a XT3 for landscape photography after using Sony for 5 years, sold my gmasters as well. I love the colors and files straight out of the XT3 and the feel of using the camera. The Fuji lags more than the Sony, the Fuji has better glass to price point for lenses, the Sony has better dynamic range, the Fuji has better color science in my eyes, Sony you have to work the file into looking natural.... etc, ya da ya da . I always operate better and I feel more creative when I feel restricted by my gear. It forces me to be more creative and to push everything to its best. With the Sony I felt like photography was too easy
That’s interesting. I’m considering to go the other way: switch from Fuji to Sony. I’ve been playing with the a7riii for about a month and I feel it’s challenging for me. Achieving sharp focus across the frame when taking a landscape photo (or on people with large apertures) is more difficult to achieve than it has been with my Fuji. In that regard, the cropped sensor offers an advantage. I’ve also noticed the challenge when editing, the larger resolution files require more fine tuning than the cropped sensor files. What is that you find challenging about Fuji cameras?
A7ii has very slow autofocus frustrating
One of the best camera for landscape and city scapes 📸
I'm considering to get a7R II nest week because of lower price )))
Good video on the SONY a7R III 4 SURE ! ;)
Better high ISO performance than the ARIV hence the higher DXO mark score
What’s your take on the NR (noise reduction) for higher ISO’s during your night photography? I’m hearing that it’s a serious issue.
i'd like to know about that too.
Is there really a STILL needed for the R3? Goddamn.
how do I find involomitor sony a7r3
I feel very validated :P. Love my A7rIII - it's a fantastic wildlife camera, too.
what lenses you use?
@@JJ-vp3bd For wildlife, typically the 100-400 GM (amazing lens) with a 24-105 on my 2nd A7rIII body. I've tested the 200-600 and it's excellent too.
@@simonjpierce If you had a chance between the 20mm 1.8 sony and the 24-105 which one would i go for on a limited budget
@@JJ-vp3bd For my purposes, the 24-105 is a flexible and sharp general-purpose lens. The 20 mm is 'better', but more specialist. I haven't used it, but it looks like an excellent lens for landscapes and low-light work. I'd assess how much you're shooting wide, and whether you'll use the 1.8 (astrophotography etc). 24 mm is usually wide enough for me, and during the day I'm typically at f/8 for any landscape stuff anyway, so the zoom lens works great. I'm mostly a wildlife photographer though. Check with Mads, he's my landscape guru ;)
@@simonjpierce Is 24 mm wide enough for indoor shots?
Just bought mine yesterday 😃
I have always had Sony cameras since the Minolta days and at present I have the A77ii (APS-C) which has a rotating and screen. I am planning to upgrade to A7RII or even IV in the near future to have a full frame camera and your video was very informative for me.
You're very welcome. I think paying a little more for the a7RIII over the II is well worth it by now.
At least the A7RIII doesn't have the 'Invalid Operation' Button. On the early Sony SLT bodies there was a dedicated digital teleconverter button that if you selected RAW or RAW+JPEG would just give a screen that said 'Invalid Operation' when pressed.
Hi, I have just subscribed to your video’s - you have provided a well constructed review of this camera. I use the NIKON D850 and have a bundle of lenses for it. Now I am considering the SONY a7R iii or similar thanks to your unbiased and directness (a Scottish viewer)
I personally don't think the Sony GM lenses are excessively expensive if you compare them with similar high end mirrorless lenses from Canon and Nikon. Canon and Nikon dslr lenses will be cheaper through the volumes they have already sold having recoup the tooling and research costs a long time ago. I doubt the future sales of mirrorless lenses will ever match past quantities of dslr lenses as the ILC camera market is now shrinking.
It is a fact that the RF glass is just as expensive as th GM. I never understod these complaints.
Dumb title. Of course the A7r3 is still good to use. One reason, and probably the most important I haven’t moved over to the a7r4 is because I don’t want to spend the money. And also because I don’t need 60+ pixels. Don’t need that. 42 is good
Hi. Good video. I have an A7R2. I want to upgrade. If shooting only landscapes would you recommend that I upgrade to the A7R3 or the A7R4? Also what about as a general purpose camera?
Awesome video. I upgraded from the RII to the RIII in March and am very happy with it. I tried out a family member's RIV, and for what I do it didn't warrant the extra price tag. Now the RIII is my main camera with the RII being a backup/second camera. The 100-400 on the RIII is a whole different level than it was on the RII and that made the upgrade worth it alone. Love using it with the 24GM and 15mm Voigtlander f/4.5 as well.
THANK YOU . I Have the 7R and I am ready for a new camera. Is the 7R # the way to go, or a new NIKON z&?. I own some good NIKON glass and the D800. which I hate. Any thoughts?
Well ... I don‘t know if Sony‘s GM lens prices are really that high. Compared to Canon RF and Nikon F/Z they look not particular more expensive, compared to similar product lines. The crazy thing about the A7R3 is that it is still ... in 2021 ... a great camera and prices are really good right now. Maybe I‘ll buy one ... 42MP is a sweetspot in my eyes. It‘s big enough and still can be handled pretty easy. I like your style of videos btw! Keep up with the great work. :)
One thing for sure, Sony won’t update firmware for sure. There is a RX1R2 petition asking Sony to provide firmware updates. Sony designed and manufactured the product, marketed it and move on to next gen.
Thank you so much Peter for the detailed a7RIII review video. Very helpful for me. You're an awesome artist! God bless you and good luck!
The fact the the allen wrench inside your L bracket is rusty as f* makes it very believeable that you actually use your gear instead of just making youtube reviews from your couch :-) I wish you the very best and a quick recovery from your back pain and hope you can get out there again soon. On topic: I have an A7 III for one and half years now. I am very happy with the fact that it is as small as it is. If you want a big ass mirrorless camera, buy a Lumix S1. The A7 III/R III bodies are roughly the same size as the Panasonic GH4 MFT I use daily on my job, while being full frame. That was a very important factor in my buying decision. Is it a perfect camera? No, but I don't think any camera is. Life is full of compromises.
The picture you have on the wall behind you in this video, what zoom range was it? or what lense, or are you using your 70-200 making a panarama?
WTF - is a 42 megapixel camera with great battery life and a stunning array of lenses still worth using for landscapes. Are you serious? LOL I have not watched the video and am going to assume the answer is yes
Hi Mads... Great video... Quick question... Do you insure your cameras and lens against water/weather damage?
Hi, yes I do, well, the camera. Not the lenses. I ought to but nobody's perfect 🤣
Mads Peter Iversen .... Thx for that... something I need to look into... 🤔
Thx SeoMaster .... I’ll have a look at my home insurance... I was just wondering if you can insure something against this kind of damage? After all , we are essentially abusing our cameras when subjecting them to heavy rain (Which I do regularly)... Having said that most pro equipment is supposed to be weather proof, but I don’t thing manufacturer’s guarantee there equipment in this regard...
For landscape, this is probably the best in the Sony world. The A7iii AF-speed is not needed, the view-finder is much better, and the noise of the 61 MPixel sensor is not there
Thanks for the video, I once ended up at a crossroad between the A7r3 or A7r4 and I simply went with the A7r3 for file size in my workflow.
Hey Mads, sorry to hear about your back pain issues. This is something I’ve suffered from too. Would love to hear your thoughts on how you mitigate that while hiking with camera gear. Also I would love to hear any thoughts you may have on how to balance landscape with wildlife photography. Thanks for the videos and sharing your amazing images!
I'm not really sure that an upgrade just to close the shutter is really needed. It's really easy and takes 2 mins to clean your sensor. I'd rather see real-time eye AF like in the 6400 or a7riv.
I hope the A7R3 is worth buying because that's what I use. I still don't see the need to "upgrade" to the A7R4. In fact, I just added the a6600 and the two new aps-c lenses which I think will be fine for me when I don't want to use my full frame camera. Hope your back gets well soon.
Odd they don't have the articulated screen. Even the A99 and A99ii had one. I'm torn between the Riv or Riii upgrading from an A99ii. The A99ii and Riii are very similarly specced from what I see. Just the different mounts, so I'm not sure the Riii would be an upgrade for me. Thanks for your really helpful video. I should have said, I only shoot in a studio so I don't even use a lot of the features of my A99ii let alone the extras in these newer ones.
Hi Mads, great video and hope your back is ok. I got this camera a week before lockdown! good luck or bad luck?! really good to see your take on it as i'm still learning lots about photography and how to use my new camera. How weather sealed do you think the a7Riii is? I've not tested it fully but i will eventually...thanks Ben
Mads. Thanks for another great blog. I wonder if you could elaborate on why is that your work benefits from a high-res sensor. Is it helpful having the 42mp? Why did you choose the high-res-full-frame route?
Thanks in advance and I hope you feel better soon.
One of my main concerns about switching to mirrorless still is the fully exposed sensor while changing lenses (in bad weather).
Technically it is not fully exposed, there is a piece of glass in front. I don't find that to be a big issue though - more an annoyance of having to clean more.
@@MadsPeterIversen Yeah, that's what it comes down to. I don't wanna wet clean the sensor (or the glass pane in front of it) every time I come back from a shoot. Not that I'm afraid to touch the sensor or anything, but I imagine it to be so incredibly annoying.
Maybe I'm just spoiled by Pentax's weather-sealing. haha
Just wondering how the old masters managed to take amazing photos with huge cameras, slow soft focus lenses and dodgy chemicals?
Would you still recommend this A7r iii over lets say Lumix S1R or Canon R6?
Hi Mads... great video, but have a question, what is the most common lens you use for the Sony a7RIII for landscapes?
Always impressed with the real-world content of your videos and how helpful they are. I am a proudly owner of an A7RIII and can not agree more with all your comments.Thanks a lot
You forgot the grey focusing point on your list of beefs. I find it so annoying! Please add a colour to it Sony..
It looks like that the a7S III is just around the corner. Wonder if you will make a comparison to that one too when it comes out. If the rumors are true this could become a real amazing camera for landscape too.
Hi, Does post processing take a long time and downloading with the sony a7riii?
I wonder, if Sony were to implement a fully articulating screen won't that get in the way of L-brackets?
I'm a Nikon user for more than 35 years and I was considering moving for Sony, mainly because I'm a bit tired of Nikon taking so much time to listen to their clients but I think this new Z mount is reserving some fantastic surprises so I'm staying to see. I don't know but could it be that they could put a bigger sensor, not medium format but bigger, with around 50Mpix with a low light and dinamic range performance that whould be the next bench mark? It's just a dream I know but why that big mount?
Mirrored my thoughts exactly Mads, though I still use a rainwater cover in bad weather, so the weather sealing could be better. I still think the dynamic range and low light performance on this camera is the best on the market, and like you, I find that I rarely have to exposure bracket shots. I hope you back gets better soon!
Thanks a lot, Joe! Appreciate it :) Do you have experience with other cameras in regard to dynamic range? :)
@@MadsPeterIversen My previous camera was an Olympus EM1 MK2, lovely camera to use, but the dynamic range was really poor. I also use a Fuji XT3, as a lightweight travel camera, better than the Olympus for dynamic range, but still not close to the A7R3.
Thanks for the video. I got my A7riii a year ago and im super happy with it. The only thing i could want is little bit better resolution on the screen and a fully articulated screen. Besides from that l will hang on to this camera for many more years. And the r4 is not interesting for me. Even if someone asked if I would swap it I wouldn’t. Hope you will recover soon.