What about women’s views and women’s rights? We don’t want Trans encroaching on our rights or private places. And being called a CIS is soooo offensive.
Exactly, Eleanor. That's what that UK protester who came to Australia was doing, standing up for real womens' rights, and guess what, she was vilified by the alphabet brigade here too. I support real womens' rights, in oppositiion to that brigade. Other than that, I am just a normal sexist, mysoginistic Aussie male. But I will stick up to real women everytime. And I emphasise the word 'real'.
There is now a push to call a vagina a ‘bonus hole’. So you menstruators and birth givers out there, you better start talking about your private area as a bonus hole. Ffs, it’s like they are being purposefully insulting.
These two ladies nailed it. As a gay man I'm fed up of being linked to the TQIA+ because I don't agree with it nor do I believe any of it, these gender extremists are doing so much damage to LGB people. We need to start separate the LGB from the TQIA+ now as they mean very different things and should never have been linked together.
Totally agree. I’m not gay or trans, but gay/lesbian people have never ever infringed upon my rights, unlike this rabid lie that says people can change sex at will.
And bizarrely, black and brown representation is on the rainbow flag - even more bizarrely I heard that there are plans to add an infinity symbol to represent people on the autistic spectrum. The whole thing is a convoluted mess of unrelated groups.
What a wonderful conversation! It gives insight into the fact that one can be homosexual and not be part of the alphabet group. And gays aren’t all on board with that groups agenda.
@@trevk9619 Not from the 'Coming for your children' chants that I've heard. Do your deviant acts in private, but when you are coming for kids you have crossed the line.
The tide is definitely turning against the lies, bullying, toxicity and sheer madness and craziness of the transgender movement. They have only themselves to blame.
I certainly hope so. But they have deep ties into the educational system at all levels which simply must be removed. What is being taught to children is atrocious.
How can you already be so soggy? They've veen getting a raw deal in this country for centuries. Maybe if people just let them mind their business in peace there would be no issue.
@morgengabe1 They got bit better then fudged it all up its like what happens to lottery winners a good amount of them squander all their money and go broke. It's what's happening here. Also they get tolerance wrong. Tolerance means people will put up with it. Acceptance is not praising someone like they are some great being for being whatever they want to be. It's just the casual greeting not giving a single faq about what they. But now every It's the literal I'm gay skit on repeat now. Alright we get it stfu it's annoying now.
So much of it when it comes to kids is fashion, social insecurity and peer group deference. You'll notice that these profoundly personal existential concerns about 'personal identity' revolve around delighting in-- or just needing and enjoying-- playing around, socially transgressing and experimenting with gendered fashions. They don't just become women-- they become cartoons and stereotypes of women. It's all fashion, cosplaying. I wish more wise elders in education, the arts and entertainment (as that's so important for teenagers and 20-somethings) would simply tell them 'wear what you want, dress how you want, whenever you want in your private life-- you're still a boy/girl'. It's no more deep rooted an issue than that. It's embarrassing how over-processed such half-baked juvenilia has gotten, with fully grown adults validating, empowering and feeding it all.
Absolutely, I’m as straight as they come but I support our lesbian sisters, they should never be pushed into sleeping with a biological male, you’re either attracted or not, it cannot be forced.😢
@@Adulthumanfemale84 I believe I do, LGB need to know they are not alone in their struggles against the new tyranny. Both Gay rights and women’s rights are being threatened, we need to pull together and reassert common sense and reasoned debate which is also under threat.
I’m heterosexual woman but I’m so glad LGB alliance won their case . It was important for all our sakes . A lot of this trans mania seems to be a frightening version of correction therapy
@Wildfox01bull plop There's validity to the idea gay people have a lobby group just like mothers, labourers, farmers etc. The TQIA♧ is mostly straight people who are latching onto something they have nothing to do with
The LGB community do a lot when it comes to protecting children from the trans pedo cult. I’ve never had an issue with the LGB community. It’s the people who hijacked their community that I’m against. We need more LGB people to speak out against the woke pedo cult and a lot of them already have, like gays against groomers…Those men and women do A LOT to fight against it…..Love them.
The trans community was infested by the "nonbinary" "queer" identifying people. Most trans people are extremely well grounded. But the pond had become tainted and its time for people to get out of the pool.
The LGB community deserves contempt for allowing themselves to be lumped in with the TQIA and being silent for way too long. They let Stonewall go insane and did nothing to stop it. The only reason they started to pay attention was when they became the target.
No Janettelands. LGBTQ+ = most of them decent, moderate people. LGB Alliance = entitled, privileged mainly lesbians and some elitist gay men. That's what they truly stand for!
All they achieve is playing the victims, grooming kids, try to force people into accepting their ideology and mutilating kids, then getting triggered when their “gender affirming healthcare” is banned for children……But they’re totally not targeting children 🤦🏻
thats the thing they seem logical thinking u can follow their logic thats the difference between them and other groups. hey i wanna be a cat or anything because sex is not real i could be anything today ok we have to respect that now (how do u even start to follow that....)
I'm not with them. They left the rest of us to rot when we were being called bigots for calling out the exact same issues when this insanity started and they only care now its effecting them personally. So they can get on with it the way we were left to get on with it.
the situation with the dating apps is the most insidious - that lesbians are being banned from the apps if they don't want to include a man who identifies as a lesbian in their dating pool.
I'm a gay man who uses a particular dating app for gay and bisexual men. There are around 40 different genders to choose from. It's flooded with aggressive transgender people who don't like taking no for an answer. Straight women are allowed to join the app. As are lesbians for some reason (I've never seen a lesbian on there but I assume they added it in case lesbians wanted to find trans-women. Which no lesbian does).
It's NOT a community. It's a bunch of minority groups with influence WAAAAY out of proportion. It's reassuring to see this group resisting the illogical and utterly irresponsible influence. THEY are the abusers, not we 'normal' folk.
LGB is so much easier to understand, let alone remember, without all the hysteria that's attached with all the endless add-on letters and symbols. The rainbow flag has also become an ugly mess of confusion that looks like a manic test pattern on steroids.
I just made a similar comment about the rainbow flag - did you hear they want to add an infinity sign to represent people on the autism spectrum? What a neurodevelopmental disorder has to do with sexual preferences (and fetishes) is beyond me! Unless of course it is an attempt to influence a vulnerable group of young people, - AKA rooming with a G.
Three women of a certain age! It's so nice to see women of my vintage having a platform to have a sensible, strong, mature conversation. At our stage of life we have little to lose so are a worthy opponent.
@@michaelyates5976ugh, the thought of a straight woman with her mouth around a you know what simply makes me want to vomit, so unnatural and disgusting. I certainly hope she uses listerine too.
I'm a 60 something gay male and like Kate said as a result of my obsession with non masculine interests as a child if I was that age now I would be encouraged to change sex and like her I would have jumped at it . This would have been a big mistake.
@@jasonthewatchmansson8873 help him with what? You can't force a boy to be interested in masculine stuff if child simply have no interested in those. That is abuse of child. My nephew till age 6 until he started school liked to put make up, play kitchen etc. He was pretending to be adult and was doing things adults in his surrounding were doing. So what I should done as only functional male in a family( other 2 spent their days filling booze in themselves and we kept child as far as possible from them)? Should I force him into playing ball, smack him? No we just left him alone to be a child and do what ever he wants. When he started school he started to have interest in sport, with time he showed more interest in male things. It is called growing up. Today he is adult and expecting a child in December. My younger nephew was total opposite, cars, sports, bikes all the male things. Guess what, he says he is bisexual but had more guys than girls.. My father's cousin is in his 60ties and still today he is flamboyant as hell, never had interest in male stuff, he liked to draw, to make all kinds of drawings for dresses, houses, he liked to sew, to cook, his father helped him by smacking him, beating the crap out of him, sending him to military school to make a man out of him. Disscusing him was taboo in a family until the war, when we all were victims and survivors of ethnical cleansing and after that we who were kids back then and went thru hell, we had our own set of rules growing up simply saying screw the world, I will live my life as I want. So back in 2005 I broke family drama dating a girl who was transexual and after 5 years of relationship was approved hormonal therapy after 6 years in therapy. Needed 6 more to raise money, get visa etc. So I had to break the news to my family. My dad who is an alcholic saw that as an excuse to get drunk coz I am a fag%ot. My brother who killed himself in 2016 suffered from complex PTSD coz he was 16 when he ended up in concentration camp, to him it was hilarious and he told me bro life is short live it as you wish. my mum went to church to pray away a devil.. 6 years later my 16 year old cousin tried suic%ide coz of strict laws in our country was shifted in mental hospital, 8 years later gender dysphoria is diagnosis and new drama unfolds. Uncle almost killed his own child even thou signs were there whole time. Me and her siblings took her out and traveled to Ireland where her siblings lived, went to UK to LGBT center to get some help, infos and support coz LGBT movement in our country was in diapers and I was one of the organizatore of first pride back in 2002 and we had no transsexual support, we hardly had gay rights and I broke up with my ex few years earlier and it was messy break up.. When my dad's cousine found out wth is going on with last for last 6 to 9 years he was speechless coz he had no clue and very little contact coz he was always like a family outcast coz his father made him one and war kinda displaced us all for some time. He took my cousine in and helped her with everything. With time we started to spoke found out he is gay and thru what bullshit he had to go back in 70ties, 80ties, 90ties were war years and for guy like him in a country which replaced communism with borderline clerical fascism, we'll figure out, he is lucky he survived. In coming years he was more of a father to me than my father ever was and I met him and got to know him when I already was in my 20ties. I was always neutral same interests in male and female stuff and today I date men, women, trans men and trans women I am attracted to a person and open for everything. And I practically raised both of my nephews and never ever wanted to force them into male stuff if they had no interests for it. Kids needs to be left alone to do things they like and enjoy. It is part of growing up, eventually they will figure stuff out, forcing kids into things never ends good...
@@morgengabe1 maybe coz he does not have gender dysphoria but would be convinced by others he is female, while he is not. You can convince kids and teens into a lot of things. From taking the guns and defend country when they are hardly 16 to convincing them they are opposite gender. And then they grow up and see it was mistake. It would be mistake coz he is man, male who as child had no interest in male stuff, like maybe sports and activities which are reserved for boys. He grew up, went thru puberty and realised he is gay. Like many before and after him. USA, Canada, UK, Australia are currently only countries which transition kids and teens without even be diagnosed with gender dysphoria. In my country person must be minimals 14 with such thoughts to be Abel to enter psychiatric therapy and evaluation. Whole process lasts for 6 years and they are adults by time they get diagnosis. Very little number actually have gender dysphoria, others are gays/lesbians or have certain mental conditions, like my friend who had gender dysphoria phases with psychotic phases since he was 13. By the age of 18 would have sex with men than end up bashing them, would join hare Krishna or at one point wanted to do facial surgery to be Asian to become true Buddhist. By the age of 20 was sure he talks to God, then aliens, followed by gender dysphoria phase. Ended up as schizophrenic. This what is going on on west is insanity. My sister grew up with 2 older brothers, till puberty was a tomboy, had no dolls, no Barbie's, no dresses, she would just take my clothes coz we are 2 years apart, chased ball with us, would be in fights, and if we would be kids today in west world, she probably would be convinced to transition and it would be mistake. Today she is mother of 3... Around age 13 hormones kicked in, dresses, make up, boy band posters and started to hang with girls..kids and teens need to be left to be kids and have developing stages and figure things out on their own and their terms, when they are rdy not when and coz someone tells them oh you are this or that.. And that is why it would be mistake for him too if he was a kid today in west world... He would do it, become teen start to questioning, become adult and realise mistake such can't be fixed...especially if medical transition was done. Those choices only person can make for themselves and no one else and to make such choices and decisions person must be an adult and decide how far they chose to go with it..if you need to be adult for tattoo, to drink, to join army and go to war, to get married, then you must be an adult to make decisions about transition...
This lady is absolutely an oasis of sanity in a mad world..... As a straight man who had a lesbian sister who totally would have stood alongside these ladies but has sadly pass I can honestly say the LGB Alliance has my full support! 😁👏
Conversion therapy As 80 to 90% of kids won't end up being trans. If left alone, not given puberty blockers and surgery. They are mostly gay and lesbian. Mental health from sexual abuse. Or just straight.
Lovely to hear these calm, considered and compassionate words and a warm invitation to the Trans lobby for open dialogue - The silence is deafening........
They are criticising trans as an abomination when they are also an abomination. Lgbtqia will destroy the UN. These women are as deluded and messed up as Putin and Trump.
Stonewall used to be so well respected back in the day. I cannot fathom WHY they got involved with transgender issues it just doesn’t make sense. Both Mermaids and Stonewall need to be shut down sooner rather than later !
If Stonewall had stuck with LGB then they'd have faced calls to disband since they'd achieved what they wanted. If they can keep adding groups that claim they're being 'marginalised' then they can always claim to be necessary and they won't lose their money and cushy jobs.
Makes no sense, but lots of easy jobs and money . Stonewall lost its reason to exist . So jumped on a band wagon. To maintain its life style. Utterly selfish.
Intelligent well presented video. Such down-to-earth ladies explaining the distinction between LGB and the transcommunity who are at times transbullies. Their own worst enemies.
Well done ladies and the lgb followers. I am straight but with you all 💯. Trans should lobby for 'other' and stop trying to hitch a ride on the back of women. I am happy to live and let live, I'd even help trans men lobby for 'other' sports and facilities, toilets etc under the banner of 'other', NOT female. I have watched trans men abuse women, which proves you're not women, we don't abuse others who think differently nor do we hitch a ride on the back of others hard work. Had trans men activists behaved as women, then maybe there would have been a case, but you're bullies and intend war on women, everyone's seen you bullying women as the testosterone flows.
Sarah you’ve been misled by their stealing of language. Transwomen are MEN, transmen are WOMEN! Of course it’s the men who say they are women who are the problem, men in women’s sport, rapists ( which in the U.K. must involve a p3n15)in women’s prisons and these men (95% of whom retain that male organ!) invading women’s refuges changing rooms therapy groups menopause groups (yes it’s a fetish!).
Sarah, right on! LGB Alliance is easy to support. There are only 2 sexes. Gender is just a label some people want to claim for personal gain, usually over real women.
Oh come on! Women don't abuse other women! Put a Tory woman with a Communist woman and watch them chat. Put a Trumper woman with a Socialist Democrat and take cover.
Trans people have been quietly changing since it was possible. First English trans male to female was a spitfire pilot and POW of the Germans. Could not change sex male to female because it was illegal to remove healthy testes. Had to find a young almost qualified doctor to quietly remove his testes, so that Harold Gillies could finish the work. That young doctor was actually a female to male trans. As far as I can find out, removing testes was illegal because religious leaders and wealthy men, had poor choir boys with spectacular voices, castrated, before puberty, so that they retained their prepuberty voices for life and could be shown off to VIPs. The best known surgeon for early trans work was the 2nd most famous surgeon for plastic surgery, for war wounds, in WW2. He began the plastic surgery research in WW1. His name was Sir Harold Gillies. His cousin was the most famous burns and wounds surgeon of the RAF. Sir Archie McIndoe. He met and knew these people and believed in them. The publicity over this has gone mad. Mainly because of the attacks on trans people. Most people have never met a trans person, living a normal, quiet life. I urge you to find out about Joy/Jonathan Ferguson of the ATA in WW2. The only change to his life after the final work, is his pay went up, because in the civil service, in the 50's, men were paid more for doing the same job. Before you hysterically rant, read Jan Morris' book - beautifully, as ever, written, about her eventual trans change from being James. The book is CONUNDRUMS. I think Jan is 90ish, now. One of the best researched and exquisite travel writers, ever. You are all so confident of people being only one sex or the other. Do you not know that 2%, I think it is, of babies, have been found to have both sexes in tissue, in genetics, etc? Do you not know babies can be born XXY or XYY? Do you not know a surprising, for you, apparently, 1 in 200 babies, .5% of babies are born with gen itals that are a confusing mix? In the old days, doctors would decide which sex would be less of a major problem as an adult, (usually female), and work was done early, secretly, and parents were advised not to tell children. So they never knew - but many did not feel comfortable in the sex assigned to them by a doctor, who carved them up to make them 'normal.' Policy in most 1st world countries now, is not to operate, but let them develop normally, visit psychs, and utimately choose what they feel they are as they approach puberty. They used to be called intersex. I believe there is a new term favoured now.
How you have a debate or dialogue with people so unhinged as to believe - or to claim to believe - that biological sex is 'assigned at birth' is beyond me.
I grew up with a friend who was adamant that she was a boy. I remember one morning seeing her mum literally dragging her to school. She was screaming, shouting, crying and kicking, all because she was wearing a skirt but wanted to wear trousers. She called herself a 'boy' and did the stereotypical boy stuff (as did I, incidentally). She hated being a girl. Then puberty hit and so too did her change of attitude. She is now one of the most feminine (stereotypical again) people I know. Married to a man and with 2 beautiful children. I have no issue with anyone living the life they want, choose or need to live, but pre pubescent children change drastically, as do their hormones. Let's keep the little ones innocent. Teach them about self identity but keep sex (as in intercourse) preferences out of it.
Stay away from young and impressionable. Stay out of schools. Leave the children out of your agendas. Stop trying to transition the vulnerable. Just leave the kids alone
As a young girl in the 70s being abused in sunday school along with other girls I desperately wished to be a boy, and told people I wanted to be a boy. I didn't know then that bad things happen to boys too. My mum didn't believe me so I felt very alone and would have been so vulnerable to being taken aside the way you describe. Now my children are my world and I'm thankful that becoming a boy wasn't an option back then
Oftentimes it is childhood trauma or trauma in general at the root of even homosexual attractions. If everyone could have their actual issues addressed we wouldn’t be in all this mess with trans hysterics towards others for misgendering them & pedos wanting to be be called MAPs.
@@BmoreBetterNOW Your actually mistaken girl, homosexual attraction has nothing to do with trauma because many heterosexuals have also faced trauma. I do agree that people who are confused with their gender have faced some abuse tho in their lifetime.
@@BmoreBetterNOW And first being LGB is not a lifestyle, it's part of who they are since they were born and its not a choice just like you didn't choose to be straight. Many of them have faced trauma because of homophobic abuse and mistreatment by some of the society and family members. I hope you one day educate yourself more about homosexuality and maybe have a less negative mentality about them.
A beautiful presentation by two honest, sincere and open women. If only all groups could act in such a mature and sensible way. All power to you, a joy to listen to.
Beautiful to hear these to ladies talk reasonabley. 100% vote from me. I really did think this was going to be more clap trap. These two ladies need to be right out there in the media 👏👏👏
Silenced, for a tiny minority they get masses of airtime and have massive gobs. I'm sick of hearing constantly about this tiny majority that think they should substitute their views for everyone!
One can be transexual without being transgender. A sex change is actually changing your genitals and removing reproductive organs. Most transgender people never do that because it's expensive, and society doesn't exactly see them as employable in high numbers.
The LGB Alliance doesn't need a parade anymore than heterosexual people need to march and say "hey, I'm straight". All three are acceptable with out unnecessary fanfare. It is a comfortable live and let live situation. That is not true with the trans people whose demands hurt others especially women in sports, privacy when dressing, in schools, and even in beer drinking/bikini bottoms/and sport shoes 😄.
@@almondhastingsI agree I think having a day celebrating Marriage equality would be great simular to Martian Luther king day u know just big moments in us history. Because it is a big thing getting marriage equality but we don’t need a month and in pride month is shown of as something that’s just sex sex sex. When it’s more than that. It’s supposed to be About love. And that seems to have been lost and tuned into a commercial political talking point
I am fed up with all these weird groups tagging onto the lgb club. This woke Tqia+ is a different thing and need their own group. Also should stop hijacking the LGB. Thank you Angela and these two women for showing how many of us really feel about the TQia+ groups
Thank you so much Bev & Kate - so articulate, so important for reasonable conversations regarding the extended ideologies of the TQ etc additions. LGB Alliance excellent outcome of this toxic challenge to your Charitable Status.
I wish Angela Ripon would stop saying ...toxicity on both sides, because I have only seen toxicity on the TRA's side, The LGBA have a different opinion, but it seems that is not allowed, The TRA's won't engage in talks just shout abuse and try to shut everyon else down, they are the toxic side.
LGB has been around for a long time and they interact with heterosexual people without issues. They don’t have rules the rest of us have to follow. Basically it’s who you choose as a partner. This new identify as you wish group is wanting people to call them what they choose to identify as. If you go to Starbucks and call someone who looks like a woman Miss they get aggressive for an honest mistake. You can’t always tell what someone identifies as. They could nicely say I prefer mister. There is a lot of anger regarding people using the wrong pronouns. The part I really have is involving children to label themselves. Therefore you asking young children do you want to be a boy or girl. I don’t believe a young child can make that decision they need to learn the differences and grow to adulthood. A child may change their mind several times as they grow and experience different feelings and emotions. Young children taking hormones or having surgery worries me. What if they grow to regret their decision and feel anger or resentment to the adults in their life that allowed it. Starting children on hormones before they reach puberty for a better outcome is to young IMO. Eleven year old children don’t have the rational thinking of the long term outcome. This stirs up a lot of controversy. Trying to force people that this is the best thing effects families with children. It bothers me that men who haven’t had surgery using restrooms with young girls. How do I know it’s not some child predator dressing as a woman to use a girl’s restroom, changing room or shower. I’m a grandma of young grandchildren and this worries me. The same thing can go for women dressing as men.
Kate and Bev are heroes and history will judge them as such. Calm, balanced, principled and plain-speaking. The fact they aren't invited to speak publicly more often is an injustice but a clear sign that the Stonewall mafia know that they can't argue with logic and reason.
At last a logical discussion. I fear for women and lesbian’s rights to be who they truly are. This ridiculous dialogue happening at the moment shows us how easily people can be drawn in.
We know transformers exist, we don't need a full month of it, we are sick to death with pride, us woman fought hard for years to gain our voice, have equal rights, the right to vote and much more, now pride are trying to take it away, WHY, we are no threat to them.
Right behind the LGB community and these two ladies, absolutely sick and tired of the nonsense from the other lot who are ruining all the good works and acceptance that has been established. Glad they lost and these ladies won 👍🏻 How refreshing to have a normal, sensible conversation and debate !!
Can I just say how lovely it is to see a) an interviewer conducting an interview that focusses on the interviewees and draws them out beautifully and b) an older woman as the interviewer. More reasons to like GB News.
@@davehallett810you can be bi and only ever sleep with one gender.. just like you can be gay and never sleep with the same gender. It's what you find attractive
I'm fed up with being called names and one of those is transphobic....I DO NOT HAVE A PHOBIA...I AM NOT AFRAID OF TRANS PEOPLE ...I'm someone who cares very very much about people All PEOPLE....we must must must have conversations.....thank you so much ladies...trust the lesbians to fix this mess😃😃❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️😍😎🌞🌜✨🧭now we can help eachother now we can start to inch forward.... THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP AND LOVE YOU BEAUTIFUL BEAUTIFUL LESBIANS 🌞🌜✨🧭
I call what I am (a bi 31 year old) “Old School LGB” where our sexuality isn’t our entire personality. New age LGBTIA+ community has gone too far 🤦🏼♀️
Well said. I also feel that Feminism has gone down a similar path. The real struggles were faught in the last century, at a time when it was illegal and punishable by law to be your 'true' self.
At last two people who can talk normally and calmly about this in a clear way that we can all understand. Very well put across and I 100% agree with what you say, lovely couple who make perfect sense.
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What about women’s views and women’s rights? We don’t want Trans encroaching on our rights or private places. And being called a CIS is soooo offensive.
It might be a bit much to also cover that in a 10 minute piece about the LGB Alliance's court win!
We need a transdraft! Send them to their precious ukran*zistan!
Trans dont want dialogue, they destroy families with children Politicians are afraid of them.Its Sonoma and Gomorrah...
Exactly, Eleanor. That's what that UK protester who came to Australia was doing, standing up for real womens' rights, and guess what, she was vilified by the alphabet brigade here too. I support real womens' rights, in oppositiion to that brigade. Other than that, I am just a normal sexist, mysoginistic Aussie male. But I will stick up to real women everytime. And I emphasise the word 'real'.
There is now a push to call a vagina a
‘bonus hole’.
So you menstruators and birth givers out there, you better start talking about your private area as a bonus hole.
Ffs, it’s like they are being purposefully insulting.
These two ladies nailed it. As a gay man I'm fed up of being linked to the TQIA+ because I don't agree with it nor do I believe any of it, these gender extremists are doing so much damage to LGB people. We need to start separate the LGB from the TQIA+ now as they mean very different things and should never have been linked together.
Gay men and lesbian women are in the main complicit because they were silent whilst the TQIA took control.
Totally agree. I’m not gay or trans, but gay/lesbian people have never ever infringed upon my rights, unlike this rabid lie that says people can change sex at will.
It's TQUASS++ you bigot!😂
And bizarrely, black and brown representation is on the rainbow flag - even more bizarrely I heard that there are plans to add an infinity symbol to represent people on the autistic spectrum. The whole thing is a convoluted mess of unrelated groups.
@@missinterpreted4923 and black and brown people, on average, are less supportive of the rainbow people than white people.
What a wonderful conversation! It gives insight into the fact that one can be homosexual and not be part of the alphabet group. And gays aren’t all on board with that groups agenda.
I am not on board with the agenda and kids should not be any part of it.Most LGB people are against sexualising kids.
Transit and other freaks attached themselves like leeches to a group who successfully fought for their human rights
Absolutely true! I’m one of them!
@@trevk9619 Not from the 'Coming for your children' chants that I've heard. Do your deviant acts in private, but when you are coming for kids you have crossed the line.
@@michaelyates5976 I think this guy made it clear enough that he is not a part of that.
The tide is definitely turning against the lies, bullying, toxicity and sheer madness and craziness of the transgender movement. They have only themselves to blame.
I certainly hope so. But they have deep ties into the educational system at all levels which simply must be removed. What is being taught to children is atrocious.
How can you already be so soggy? They've veen getting a raw deal in this country for centuries. Maybe if people just let them mind their business in peace there would be no issue.
@morgengabe1 They got bit better then fudged it all up its like what happens to lottery winners a good amount of them squander all their money and go broke. It's what's happening here. Also they get tolerance wrong. Tolerance means people will put up with it. Acceptance is not praising someone like they are some great being for being whatever they want to be. It's just the casual greeting not giving a single faq about what they. But now every It's the literal I'm gay skit on repeat now. Alright we get it stfu it's annoying now.
@janetscrivener7915 whats being taught to children that you disagree with?
So much of it when it comes to kids is fashion, social insecurity and peer group deference. You'll notice that these profoundly personal existential concerns about 'personal identity' revolve around delighting in-- or just needing and enjoying-- playing around, socially transgressing and experimenting with gendered fashions. They don't just become women-- they become cartoons and stereotypes of women. It's all fashion, cosplaying. I wish more wise elders in education, the arts and entertainment (as that's so important for teenagers and 20-somethings) would simply tell them 'wear what you want, dress how you want, whenever you want in your private life-- you're still a boy/girl'. It's no more deep rooted an issue than that. It's embarrassing how over-processed such half-baked juvenilia has gotten, with fully grown adults validating, empowering and feeding it all.
Absolutely, I’m as straight as they come but I support our lesbian sisters, they should never be pushed into sleeping with a biological male, you’re either attracted or not, it cannot be forced.😢
@@Adulthumanfemale84 I believe I do, LGB need to know they are not alone in their struggles against the new tyranny. Both Gay rights and women’s rights are being threatened, we need to pull together and reassert common sense and reasoned debate which is also under threat.
@@michgreeno1I agree with you 😊
@@michgreeno1 Full rights for all rug munchers!
NO ONE SHOULD HARM!
BRAVO 👏
I’m heterosexual woman but I’m so glad LGB alliance won their case . It was important for all our sakes . A lot of this trans mania seems to be a frightening version of correction therapy
A lot of it is the mental ill and predators.
@Wildfox01what are you talking about? Did they shove themselves into all those lockers? You absolute bullshitter.
@Wildfox01bull plop
There's validity to the idea gay people have a lobby group just like mothers, labourers, farmers etc.
The TQIA♧ is mostly straight people who are latching onto something they have nothing to do with
The LGB community do a lot when it comes to protecting children from the trans pedo cult.
I’ve never had an issue with the LGB community.
It’s the people who hijacked their community that I’m against.
We need more LGB people to speak out against the woke pedo cult and a lot of them already have, like gays against groomers…Those men and women do A LOT to fight against it…..Love them.
The trans community was infested by the "nonbinary" "queer" identifying people. Most trans people are extremely well grounded. But the pond had become tainted and its time for people to get out of the pool.
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The LGB community deserves immense respect and should distance themselves from the other alphabet.
The LGB community deserves contempt for allowing themselves to be lumped in with the TQIA and being silent for way too long. They let Stonewall go insane and did nothing to stop it. The only reason they started to pay attention was when they became the target.
@@edenbreckhouse Really??? Surely you jest!
Respect for what? They created an entire movement about secs. You think that’s something to be proud of. That’s not my definition of an achievement.
@@georginachambers not at all. Why would you think that. Was there anything I said that was factually incorrect?
@@edenbreckhouseyou're a moron if you think generalizing an entire group based on the actions of a few deserves contempt for that whole group.
LGB Alliance = Decent People.
Plus Brigade = Deluded Bullies.
It's the Q and T's brother, I tell ya!
@@stevenbrozynski5555 EXACTLY! The I's and A's are not the problem. I have no idea what Q is about.
Succinctly put!
No Janettelands. LGBTQ+ = most of them decent, moderate people. LGB Alliance = entitled, privileged mainly lesbians and some elitist gay men. That's what they truly stand for!
Stonewall and Mermaids are not achieving anything worthwhile and should be closed down
Yes. Agree with OP
Tatchell won't be happy until the age of consent is scrapped completely.
If only it was your movement. Maybe then you'd understand why your opinion is so futile it might actually be stupid.
All they achieve is playing the victims, grooming kids, try to force people into accepting their ideology and mutilating kids, then getting triggered when their “gender affirming healthcare” is banned for children……But they’re totally not targeting children 🤦🏻
You go ladies. All fair right thinking people are with you.
thats the thing they seem logical thinking u can follow their logic thats the difference between them and other groups. hey i wanna be a cat or anything because sex is not real i could be anything today ok we have to respect that now (how do u even start to follow that....)
Nah, most gender criticals that I know, are from the political center and left, but calling us "far right" and "fascists" is really all you've got.
Far right? . .both Hitler and Mussolini were originally Communists...in other words your lot.
@@RufanaDenmarkthey said fair right thinking
I'm not with them. They left the rest of us to rot when we were being called bigots for calling out the exact same issues when this insanity started and they only care now its effecting them personally. So they can get on with it the way we were left to get on with it.
I'm a heterosexual woman and I fully support these fine, intelligent ladies ❤
❤😊
the situation with the dating apps is the most insidious - that lesbians are being banned from the apps if they don't want to include a man who identifies as a lesbian in their dating pool.
@@SpookyDjinnthey do, gay men Dont want to date women who say they’re men
I'm a gay man who uses a particular dating app for gay and bisexual men. There are around 40 different genders to choose from. It's flooded with aggressive transgender people who don't like taking no for an answer. Straight women are allowed to join the app. As are lesbians for some reason (I've never seen a lesbian on there but I assume they added it in case lesbians wanted to find trans-women. Which no lesbian does).
@@danielgillespie7899Plenty of lesbians accept trans people.
@@silver4831 prove it pal.
Can't have that little willy being ignored
Well done LGB Alliance, fantastic win!
Thank you LGB Alliance for standing for the LGB community
Don't tell me these old women still munch rugs?
Yates 😆
It's NOT a community. It's a bunch of minority groups with influence WAAAAY out of proportion.
It's reassuring to see this group resisting the illogical and utterly irresponsible influence. THEY are the abusers, not we 'normal' folk.
@@michaelyates5976 So at what age do men lose their sx drive 30 maybe?. How old were you when you lost yours?
@@brenda1378 95.
Well done LGB Alliance, as a straight woman with my Great Aunts being lesbians I stand with you.
Thank Your Mother FIRST. Ungrateful Daughter! Ungrateful!
@@frederiquecouture3924what the...? You sound demented.
@@frederiquecouture3924 you sound like a crazy lady shouting on a street corner. Or Mommie Dearest.
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LGB is so much easier to understand, let alone remember, without all the hysteria that's attached with all the endless add-on letters and symbols. The rainbow flag has also become an ugly mess of confusion that looks like a manic test pattern on steroids.
Everything Woke touches turns to .... and looks like it as well. #DropTheTFromLGB
I just made a similar comment about the rainbow flag - did you hear they want to add an infinity sign to represent people on the autism spectrum? What a neurodevelopmental disorder has to do with sexual preferences (and fetishes) is beyond me! Unless of course it is an attempt to influence a vulnerable group of young people, - AKA rooming with a G.
I’m on your side LGB, we are the silent straight majority that stand with you and your cause
Silenced may be a better word
Thank you. Though some seem intent on throwing us under the Trans bus. #LGBOnly
I don’t hang around lgbtwia26$+ or straights. Both are corrupt. Keep on protecting lgbtqia and watch humanity fall apart.
I will not be silent, nor silenced
LGB does not exist with the T. A bunch of straight people saying otherwise won’t change it ❤
As a Straight Man. Thank goodness for the LGB Alliance. Well done for common sense. Don't get bullied. Good luck.
Three women of a certain age! It's so nice to see women of my vintage having a platform to have a sensible, strong, mature conversation. At our stage of life we have little to lose so are a worthy opponent.
Do they still...you know. Ugh. Hope they use Listerine afterwards.
@@vintagecostumegems7741 So you know then. Hair stuck between your teeth ring any bells?
@@michaelyates5976ugh, the thought of a straight woman with her mouth around a you know what simply makes me want to vomit, so unnatural and disgusting. I certainly hope she uses listerine too.
It's a shame that wisdom and life experience isn't as respected as it should be.
@@missinterpreted4923would them saying things you believe necessarily indicate that they are wise?
Brillant to see Angela Rippon on GB News x
I'm a 60 something gay male and like Kate said as a result of my obsession with non masculine interests as a child if I was that age now I would be encouraged to change sex and like her I would have jumped at it . This would have been a big mistake.
That's ridiculous. Why didn't your father try to help you?
@@jasonthewatchmansson8873 help him with what? You can't force a boy to be interested in masculine stuff if child simply have no interested in those. That is abuse of child. My nephew till age 6 until he started school liked to put make up, play kitchen etc. He was pretending to be adult and was doing things adults in his surrounding were doing. So what I should done as only functional male in a family( other 2 spent their days filling booze in themselves and we kept child as far as possible from them)? Should I force him into playing ball, smack him? No we just left him alone to be a child and do what ever he wants. When he started school he started to have interest in sport, with time he showed more interest in male things. It is called growing up. Today he is adult and expecting a child in December.
My younger nephew was total opposite, cars, sports, bikes all the male things. Guess what, he says he is bisexual but had more guys than girls..
My father's cousin is in his 60ties and still today he is flamboyant as hell, never had interest in male stuff, he liked to draw, to make all kinds of drawings for dresses, houses, he liked to sew, to cook, his father helped him by smacking him, beating the crap out of him, sending him to military school to make a man out of him. Disscusing him was taboo in a family until the war, when we all were victims and survivors of ethnical cleansing and after that we who were kids back then and went thru hell, we had our own set of rules growing up simply saying screw the world, I will live my life as I want.
So back in 2005 I broke family drama dating a girl who was transexual and after 5 years of relationship was approved hormonal therapy after 6 years in therapy. Needed 6 more to raise money, get visa etc. So I had to break the news to my family. My dad who is an alcholic saw that as an excuse to get drunk coz I am a fag%ot. My brother who killed himself in 2016 suffered from complex PTSD coz he was 16 when he ended up in concentration camp, to him it was hilarious and he told me bro life is short live it as you wish. my mum went to church to pray away a devil..
6 years later my 16 year old cousin tried suic%ide coz of strict laws in our country was shifted in mental hospital, 8 years later gender dysphoria is diagnosis and new drama unfolds. Uncle almost killed his own child even thou signs were there whole time. Me and her siblings took her out and traveled to Ireland where her siblings lived, went to UK to LGBT center to get some help, infos and support coz LGBT movement in our country was in diapers and I was one of the organizatore of first pride back in 2002 and we had no transsexual support, we hardly had gay rights and I broke up with my ex few years earlier and it was messy break up..
When my dad's cousine found out wth is going on with last for last 6 to 9 years he was speechless coz he had no clue and very little contact coz he was always like a family outcast coz his father made him one and war kinda displaced us all for some time. He took my cousine in and helped her with everything. With time we started to spoke found out he is gay and thru what bullshit he had to go back in 70ties, 80ties, 90ties were war years and for guy like him in a country which replaced communism with borderline clerical fascism, we'll figure out, he is lucky he survived. In coming years he was more of a father to me than my father ever was and I met him and got to know him when I already was in my 20ties.
I was always neutral same interests in male and female stuff and today I date men, women, trans men and trans women I am attracted to a person and open for everything.
And I practically raised both of my nephews and never ever wanted to force them into male stuff if they had no interests for it. Kids needs to be left alone to do things they like and enjoy. It is part of growing up, eventually they will figure stuff out, forcing kids into things never ends good...
Why would it have been a mistake for you? Do you think years of repression have anything to do with it?
@@morgengabe1 maybe coz he does not have gender dysphoria but would be convinced by others he is female, while he is not. You can convince kids and teens into a lot of things. From taking the guns and defend country when they are hardly 16 to convincing them they are opposite gender. And then they grow up and see it was mistake.
It would be mistake coz he is man, male who as child had no interest in male stuff, like maybe sports and activities which are reserved for boys. He grew up, went thru puberty and realised he is gay. Like many before and after him. USA, Canada, UK, Australia are currently only countries which transition kids and teens without even be diagnosed with gender dysphoria. In my country person must be minimals 14 with such thoughts to be Abel to enter psychiatric therapy and evaluation. Whole process lasts for 6 years and they are adults by time they get diagnosis. Very little number actually have gender dysphoria, others are gays/lesbians or have certain mental conditions, like my friend who had gender dysphoria phases with psychotic phases since he was 13. By the age of 18 would have sex with men than end up bashing them, would join hare Krishna or at one point wanted to do facial surgery to be Asian to become true Buddhist. By the age of 20 was sure he talks to God, then aliens, followed by gender dysphoria phase. Ended up as schizophrenic. This what is going on on west is insanity. My sister grew up with 2 older brothers, till puberty was a tomboy, had no dolls, no Barbie's, no dresses, she would just take my clothes coz we are 2 years apart, chased ball with us, would be in fights, and if we would be kids today in west world, she probably would be convinced to transition and it would be mistake. Today she is mother of 3... Around age 13 hormones kicked in, dresses, make up, boy band posters and started to hang with girls..kids and teens need to be left to be kids and have developing stages and figure things out on their own and their terms, when they are rdy not when and coz someone tells them oh you are this or that..
And that is why it would be mistake for him too if he was a kid today in west world... He would do it, become teen start to questioning, become adult and realise mistake such can't be fixed...especially if medical transition was done. Those choices only person can make for themselves and no one else and to make such choices and decisions person must be an adult and decide how far they chose to go with it..if you need to be adult for tattoo, to drink, to join army and go to war, to get married, then you must be an adult to make decisions about transition...
@@boredutopia this is what victory looks like. Idc.
These women talk sense.
Lovely to see Angela Rippon, looking gorgeous! Great news about LGB Alliance. Absolutely fed up of woke BS.
Delighted and finally common sense.
This was a very good interview. Of course I expect nothing less of Angela Rippon CBE.
"We modelled ourselves on the best of what Stonewall used to be". A very pertinent sentence right there.
These two women speak perfect sense. Thank God for their dedication.
I’m straight but I absolutely support this.
I am as well and proud of it.
I doubt it 😂
@@Adulthumanfemale84 It's nice to say it i wish we had a flag to wave around.
@@Adulthumanfemale84 I would love to but they would probably ban it.
There is no such thing as trans men and trans women. These can only be described as pseudo men and pseudo women.
No, it’s pretending ie pseudo.
Trans = fake!
There is actual gender dysphoria, but it is tiny minority of the population. The fake trans crowd has co-opted it for power.
it's a wonder why they would want to engage in behaviour you dislike.
Heh, It's almost like some people would rather cut children up rather than have them be gay. It couldn't be that. Please don't let it be like that.
It seems to be that
Yep, trans away the gay
And the autistic children, and the abused children....in fact, any confused child.
This lady is absolutely an oasis of sanity in a mad world..... As a straight man who had a lesbian sister who totally would have stood alongside these ladies but has sadly pass I can honestly say the LGB Alliance has my full support! 😁👏
Time to revive LGB !!❤️
This new LGBTQQIP2SA movement is absolutely insane 🤯
Conversion therapy
As 80 to 90% of kids won't end up being trans. If left alone, not given puberty blockers and surgery. They are mostly gay and lesbian. Mental health from sexual abuse. Or just straight.
The LGB started the insanity. Ban them also.
Lovely to hear these calm, considered and compassionate words and a warm invitation to the Trans lobby for open dialogue - The silence is deafening........
They are criticising trans as an abomination when they are also an abomination. Lgbtqia will destroy the UN. These women are as deluded and messed up as Putin and Trump.
Bout bloody time somebody spoke out!
Well done 👏
Kate and Bev are so lovely, hugely admire them and the other LGBA trustees for what they have done.
Congratulations ladies on your victory, support you all the way! ❤🏴✌️
Glad to see this. LGB need to be rid of the uninvited TQIA+ mafia 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Well done ladies.
Stonewall used to be so well respected back in the day. I cannot fathom WHY they got involved with transgender issues it just doesn’t make sense. Both Mermaids and Stonewall need to be shut down sooner rather than later !
Money
@@cashkitty3472spot on! They were seeking relevance as well
Trying to hang on to their 6 figure salaries once gay marriage was achieved!!!
If Stonewall had stuck with LGB then they'd have faced calls to disband since they'd achieved what they wanted. If they can keep adding groups that claim they're being 'marginalised' then they can always claim to be necessary and they won't lose their money and cushy jobs.
Makes no sense, but lots of easy jobs and money . Stonewall lost its reason to exist . So jumped on a band wagon. To maintain its life style. Utterly selfish.
Tremendous respect for these two ladies. All power to them.
Can I just say too how wonderful it is to have an experienced journalist like Angela Rippon back on a news channel
Seasoned activists and mature, well-spoken women who won’t be silenced. Makes my heart sing.
That's because they faught for their rights long ago, at a time when the fight was real.......
Thank you so much! Please go on fighting for LBG as you did!! I
Intelligent well presented video. Such down-to-earth ladies explaining the distinction between LGB and the transcommunity who are at times transbullies. Their own worst enemies.
Congratulations LGBA! You not only won the case but you also showed everyone what kind of sinister organization Mermaids is.
Well done Ladies - completely on your side
Well done ladies and the lgb followers.
I am straight but with you all 💯.
Trans should lobby for 'other' and stop trying to hitch a ride on the back of women.
I am happy to live and let live, I'd even help trans men lobby for 'other' sports and facilities, toilets etc under the banner of 'other', NOT female.
I have watched trans men abuse women, which proves you're not women, we don't abuse others who think differently nor do we hitch a ride on the back of others hard work.
Had trans men activists behaved as women, then maybe there would have been a case, but you're bullies and intend war on women, everyone's seen you bullying women as the testosterone flows.
Great comnents 👏👏
Sarah you’ve been misled by their stealing of language. Transwomen are MEN, transmen are WOMEN! Of course it’s the men who say they are women who are the problem, men in women’s sport, rapists ( which in the U.K. must involve a p3n15)in women’s prisons and these men (95% of whom retain that male organ!) invading women’s refuges changing rooms therapy groups menopause groups (yes it’s a fetish!).
Sarah, right on! LGB Alliance is easy to support. There are only 2 sexes. Gender is just a label some people want to claim for personal gain, usually over real women.
Oh come on! Women don't abuse other women!
Put a Tory woman with a Communist woman and watch them chat. Put a Trumper woman with a Socialist Democrat and take cover.
Trans people have been quietly changing since it was possible.
First English trans male to female was a spitfire pilot and POW of the Germans.
Could not change sex male to female because it was illegal to remove healthy testes. Had to find a young almost qualified doctor to quietly remove his testes, so that Harold Gillies could finish the work. That young doctor was actually a female to male trans.
As far as I can find out, removing testes was illegal because religious leaders and wealthy men, had poor choir boys with spectacular voices, castrated, before puberty, so that they retained their prepuberty voices for life and could be shown off to VIPs.
The best known surgeon for early trans work was the 2nd most famous surgeon for plastic surgery, for war wounds, in WW2. He began the plastic surgery research in WW1.
His name was Sir Harold Gillies.
His cousin was the most famous burns and wounds surgeon of the RAF. Sir Archie McIndoe.
He met and knew these people and believed in them. The publicity over this has gone mad. Mainly because of the attacks on trans people. Most people have never met a trans person, living a normal, quiet life.
I urge you to find out about Joy/Jonathan Ferguson of the ATA in WW2. The only change to his life after the final work, is his pay went up, because in the civil service, in the 50's, men were paid more for doing the same job.
Before you hysterically rant, read Jan Morris' book - beautifully, as ever, written, about her eventual trans change from being James. The book is CONUNDRUMS.
I think Jan is 90ish, now. One of the best researched and exquisite travel writers, ever.
You are all so confident of people being only one sex or the other. Do you not know that 2%, I think it is, of babies, have been found to have both sexes in tissue, in genetics, etc?
Do you not know babies can be born XXY or XYY?
Do you not know a surprising, for you, apparently, 1 in 200 babies, .5% of babies are born with gen itals that are a confusing mix?
In the old days, doctors would decide which sex would be less of a major problem as an adult, (usually female), and work was done early, secretly, and parents were advised not to tell children. So they never knew - but many did not feel comfortable in the sex assigned to them by a doctor, who carved them up to make them 'normal.' Policy in most 1st world countries now, is not to operate, but let them develop normally, visit psychs, and utimately choose what they feel they are as they approach puberty.
They used to be called intersex. I believe there is a new term favoured now.
Mermaids needs to be disbanded
Mermaids are under investigation for their practices, eg. giving breast binders to young girls, so they may not be around for much longer.
@@fabiennemitchell2371I hope you're right
How you have a debate or dialogue with people so unhinged as to believe - or to claim to believe - that biological sex is 'assigned at birth' is beyond me.
It should be beyond you because nobody does that.
Support this group 100%.
Congratulations to these brave women! We are watching and supporting you all over the world
Reasonable people with kindness in their views and hearts.
Angela has an absolutely beautiful voice
Good on you LGB keep fighting this gives me hope for my son 👍🇬🇧
How nice to see Angela Ripon back on air, and looking in fine form too. And yes people have to stand up to the extreme woke brigade.
Well done ladies .Good job .Straight guy proud to call you ladies too.❤👍
And thanks
I am a straight guy and I stand with the LGB guys and girls, but the alphabet squad can rot.
What list do you keep L, G, and B in?
@@morgengabe1 I guess you don't understand common English mate
@@RocketRaccoon-g9v yeah, I'm the one with that problem, lol.
@@morgengabe1 I thought you were that's why I corrected you
@@RocketRaccoon-g9v so explain what parts of english i'm so badly challenged with?
Peaceful, calm, eloquent.
Im a gay man of 65 and this is so normal and sensible, bravo Lovely sensible intelligent presenter and guests.
Absolutely brilliant and sane discussion as opposed to the irrational and basically delusional ideology of the alphabet people.
The fact that a group that tries to shut down debate on a subject is actually called "Stonewall" is more than a little ironic
Very good point! Never thought of that before
Oooof the impact of that truth 💣 you just dropped...!
Straight female here. During early puberty I too would have jumped at the chance to be one of the boys. Many young women are vulnerable
I grew up with a friend who was adamant that she was a boy. I remember one morning seeing her mum literally dragging her to school. She was screaming, shouting, crying and kicking, all because she was wearing a skirt but wanted to wear trousers. She called herself a 'boy' and did the stereotypical boy stuff (as did I, incidentally). She hated being a girl.
Then puberty hit and so too did her change of attitude. She is now one of the most feminine (stereotypical again) people I know. Married to a man and with 2 beautiful children.
I have no issue with anyone living the life they want, choose or need to live, but pre pubescent children change drastically, as do their hormones. Let's keep the little ones innocent. Teach them about self identity but keep sex (as in intercourse) preferences out of it.
All my lesbian and gay friends have not supported this trans cult divisive narrative ! We’ll done 👏👏👏👏
So stonewall is stonewalling them?🤔
Good one 😂. I had that thought too as I was watching.
Thank You, Ladies!
Stay away from young and impressionable. Stay out of schools. Leave the children out of your agendas. Stop trying to transition the vulnerable. Just leave the kids alone
Did you listen to the interview?
@@tallulahdurand yes all of it
Very good interview!
As a young girl in the 70s being abused in sunday school along with other girls I desperately wished to be a boy, and told people I wanted to be a boy. I didn't know then that bad things happen to boys too. My mum didn't believe me so I felt very alone and would have been so vulnerable to being taken aside the way you describe. Now my children are my world and I'm thankful that becoming a boy wasn't an option back then
Oftentimes it is childhood trauma or trauma in general at the root of even homosexual attractions. If everyone could have their actual issues addressed we wouldn’t be in all this mess with trans hysterics towards others for misgendering them & pedos wanting to be be called MAPs.
@@BmoreBetterNOW Your actually mistaken girl, homosexual attraction has nothing to do with trauma because many heterosexuals have also faced trauma. I do agree that people who are confused with their gender have faced some abuse tho in their lifetime.
@@BmoreBetterNOW And first being LGB is not a lifestyle, it's part of who they are since they were born and its not a choice just like you didn't choose to be straight. Many of them have faced trauma because of homophobic abuse and mistreatment by some of the society and family members. I hope you one day educate yourself more about homosexuality and maybe have a less negative mentality about them.
A beautiful presentation by two honest, sincere and open women. If only all groups could act in such a mature and sensible way. All power to you, a joy to listen to.
Beautiful to hear these to ladies talk reasonabley. 100% vote from me. I really did think this was going to be more clap trap. These two ladies need to be right out there in the media 👏👏👏
Silenced, for a tiny minority they get masses of airtime and have massive gobs. I'm sick of hearing constantly about this tiny majority that think they should substitute their views for everyone!
Animals always make the most noise.
Transsexuals don't have a problem but 'transgenders' do.
Transgender is a religion.
Cult
One can be transexual without being transgender. A sex change is actually changing your genitals and removing reproductive organs. Most transgender people never do that because it's expensive, and society doesn't exactly see them as employable in high numbers.
Congrats to Lgb alliance.
Make your own mature prideparade with other mature organisations tired of Lgbt+.
The LGB Alliance doesn't need a parade anymore than heterosexual people need to march and say "hey, I'm straight". All three are acceptable with out unnecessary fanfare. It is a comfortable live and let live situation. That is not true with the trans people whose demands hurt others especially women in sports, privacy when dressing, in schools, and even in beer drinking/bikini bottoms/and sport shoes 😄.
@@almondhastingsI agree I think having a day celebrating Marriage equality would be great simular to Martian Luther king day u know just big moments in us history. Because it is a big thing getting marriage equality but we don’t need a month and in pride month is shown of as something that’s just sex sex sex. When it’s more than that. It’s supposed to be About love. And that seems to have been lost and tuned into a commercial political talking point
I am fed up with all these weird groups tagging onto the lgb club. This woke Tqia+ is a different thing and need their own group. Also should stop hijacking the LGB. Thank you Angela and these two women for showing how many of us really feel about the TQia+ groups
Go on, kick the ladder away.
Thank you so much Bev & Kate - so articulate, so important for reasonable conversations regarding the extended ideologies of the TQ etc additions. LGB Alliance excellent outcome of this toxic challenge to your Charitable Status.
this erosion of morality is one big freak show
One huge freak show.
All children are exceptionally vulnerable full stop.
I wish Angela Ripon would stop saying ...toxicity on both sides, because I have only seen toxicity on the TRA's side, The LGBA have a different opinion, but it seems that is not allowed, The TRA's won't engage in talks just shout abuse and try to shut everyon else down, they are the toxic side.
Thank you Bev and Kate, well done both of you.
"Cottage industry"😬😆😆
LGB has been around for a long time and they interact with heterosexual people without issues. They don’t have rules the rest of us have to follow. Basically it’s who you choose as a partner. This new identify as you wish group is wanting people to call them what they choose to identify as. If you go to Starbucks and call someone who looks like a woman Miss they get aggressive for an honest mistake. You can’t always tell what someone identifies as. They could nicely say I prefer mister. There is a lot of anger regarding people using the wrong pronouns. The part I really have is involving children to label themselves. Therefore you asking young children do you want to be a boy or girl. I don’t believe a young child can make that decision they need to learn the differences and grow to adulthood. A child may change their mind several times as they grow and experience different feelings and emotions. Young children taking hormones or having surgery worries me. What if they grow to regret their decision and feel anger or resentment to the adults in their life that allowed it. Starting children on hormones before they reach puberty for a better outcome is to young IMO. Eleven year old children don’t have the rational thinking of the long term outcome. This stirs up a lot of controversy. Trying to force people that this is the best thing effects families with children. It bothers me that men who haven’t had surgery using restrooms with young girls. How do I know it’s not some child predator dressing as a woman to use a girl’s restroom, changing room or shower. I’m a grandma of young grandchildren and this worries me. The same thing can go for women dressing as men.
Kate and Bev are heroes and history will judge them as such. Calm, balanced, principled and plain-speaking. The fact they aren't invited to speak publicly more often is an injustice but a clear sign that the Stonewall mafia know that they can't argue with logic and reason.
At last a logical discussion. I fear for women and lesbian’s rights to be who they truly are. This ridiculous dialogue happening at the moment shows us how easily people can be drawn in.
We know transformers exist, we don't need a full month of it, we are sick to death with pride, us woman fought hard for years to gain our voice, have equal rights, the right to vote and much more, now pride are trying to take it away, WHY, we are no threat to them.
@@SpookyDjinnWhy do these lesbian women dress like men again? Internal misogyny?
What did you do to get the vote?
@geordiewishart1683
Dumb troll.
Right behind the LGB community and these two ladies, absolutely sick and tired of the nonsense from the other lot who are ruining all the good works and acceptance that has been established. Glad they lost and these ladies won 👍🏻
How refreshing to have a normal, sensible conversation and debate !!
Can I just say how lovely it is to see a) an interviewer conducting an interview that focusses on the interviewees and draws them out beautifully and b) an older woman as the interviewer. More reasons to like GB News.
Well said ladies.
LGB that's it.
Just the L and the G for me,I think the B is a bit weird 🤔 I mean come on guys pick a team.....
No.
The Liberal elite are attempting to normalise noncing....
@@davehallett810you can be bi and only ever sleep with one gender.. just like you can be gay and never sleep with the same gender. It's what you find attractive
Tear down Stonewall! A bunch of grifters!
I'm fed up with being called names and one of those is transphobic....I DO NOT HAVE A PHOBIA...I AM NOT AFRAID OF TRANS PEOPLE ...I'm someone who cares very very much about people All PEOPLE....we must must must have conversations.....thank you so much ladies...trust the lesbians to fix this mess😃😃❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️😍😎🌞🌜✨🧭now we can help eachother now we can start to inch forward.... THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP AND LOVE YOU BEAUTIFUL BEAUTIFUL LESBIANS 🌞🌜✨🧭
I'm continually shocked how wide the road is but I guess I shouldn't be.
I cant belive the world has come to this.
Really interesting, great guests.
I call what I am (a bi 31 year old) “Old School LGB” where our sexuality isn’t our entire personality. New age LGBTIA+ community has gone too far 🤦🏼♀️
How dare you omit the Q, you un-inclusive bigot! 😂
Well said. I also feel that Feminism has gone down a similar path. The real struggles were faught in the last century, at a time when it was illegal and punishable by law to be your 'true' self.
Good ladies. They speak extremely well.
We need an LGB Alliance in the US!
You guys have ufc, you'll be alright.
At last two people who can talk normally and calmly about this in a clear way that we can all understand. Very well put across and I 100% agree with what you say, lovely couple who make perfect sense.
L.G.B. SHOULD BE SEEN AS SEPARATE FROM T.Q.I.A.+
It is about time someone had the guts to stand up and point out this is all rubbish and the emperor actually 'doesn't have any clothes on'.