How to use microtones to harmonise? | Ep. 3
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ก.ค. 2024
- How can Jacob Collier divide a minor 3rd into 4 pieces? And how could you possibly harmonise a sub-chromatic line?!
In our third episode of 'Hear Between The Lines' - our series about microtonal harmony and voice-leading - we focus on dividing intervals into ever smaller steps, and how to harmonise the results.
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00:00 Intro
00:35 Rhythmic subdivisions
00:57 Subdividing Intervals / Pitchspaces
01:12 Maj 3rd: Diatonic & Chromatic Divisions
01:36 24-TET: Dividing Prime Number Intervals
02:06 Dividing a min 3rd in 24-TET
02:35 That JC Video: b3 in 4 pieces
02:51 Can we harmonise it? Sure!
03:08 31-TET overview
03:47 Applying 31-TET to the JC Example
03:57 Harmonising a quartered min 3rd
04:21 Breakdown of our harmonisation
06:17 Let's hear this monster!
06:36 Free-Flowing Harmonisation
07:00 Let's try it together!
07:09 LEVEL 1: Sing a minor 3rd!
07:24 LEVEL 2: Divide it chromatically!
07:40 LEVEL 3: Halve it (neutral 2nd)!
08:02 LEVEL 4: Divide it into 4 pieces! Jacob-style :)))
08:27 HARMONIZED WORM and closing thoughts
08:41 Wanna practice it? Head over to our Patreon!
09:00 Thanking our Patrons and Outro
I want a friendship like Rami and Freddi. Sipping coffee and talking microtones. Changing the future.
tea, actually.
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They are drinking microtonality
Great stuff once again. It's an interesting idea to choose an edo based on the divisions you want, and then letting that edo guide the other harmony.
I somehow knew- after your 19-tet series, that you would come here. Will you ever do one on 31-tet?
Oooh yes, we'd also be interested on your take on 31!
Thanks so much!
I'm so glad my friend introduced me to this channel! Thank you so much for the great content, i can't wait to be bragging about being one of your first 500 subs when the channel hits some big-big numbers :э
Thank you so much for your lovely comment, we're really happy about how the videos are being received! Tell as many people as you can! :D
What an amazing unique channel. Glad to find you!
Glad you found us ;) Welcome aboard!
And yet again! Such a great video!
wow microtonal stuff! this channel is a gold mine
Welcome aboard! :)
Great stuff as usual!
Thanks for inviting us into your wormhole, so much fun!
Fun stuff man! Also, I really like the table between you guys haha
Moroccan furniture for the win!
Another great video! Thank you!
You're very welcome ;)
You guys are gonna love my 19-TET arrangement of Bridge Over Troubled Water, I split a (edited) major sixth into seven in it :D
Did you also harmonise it? We'd love to hear it!
But isn't a 19TET minor sixth 13 steps? 🤔
@@stirlingblackwood It is. In this episode we didn't get into uneven divisions. That's another rabbithole - and a very exciting one at that! In another episode :)
@@stirlingblackwood Rami and I talked about this today - and I straight up just said minor sixth when I meant major sixth! Haha, sorry! The arrangement is at the link here:
th-cam.com/video/C6FpVhDUsfM/w-d-xo.html
From 4:18 to 4:25, the bass line does it! B-C-Db-D#-E-F-FX-G#
(On my Patreon account you can see the transcription early)
This is a great video, please continue doing this!
Thanks! That's the plan :))
very well explained!!!🙂 best regards
Note that 31 TET is virtually the same as quarter comma meantone tuning including double sharps and double flats. So you can extract scales and chords with really consonant thirds and fifths that are just a bit more out than in 12 tone equal temperament.
6:00 You have just entered the realm of Middle Eastern music haha. It's so cool to see people working on theory.
Yeah, we're really getting into Middle Eastern music actually. 31 works really nicely for that, too, although, as with any EDO lower than at least around 53 you lose some nuances..
@@HearBetweenTheLines Hey, do you know any good book about middle eastern music theory? There are books from more than thousand years ago I mean, Al-Farabi and guys like him wrote ofc but I don't know if they have any English translations. Even if they had, I don't think they study harmony :P
@@ucanihl Yes, Rami is actually reading one right now called "Inside Arabic Music: Arabic Maqam Performance and Theory in the 20th Century"
by Sami Abu Shumays and Johnny Farraj
It doesn't cover harmony, but if you want to understand how Maqamat work, it's the best out there right now. :)
@@HearBetweenTheLines thank you very much!
@@ucanihl You're very welcome! If you have any questions, let us know!
EP 3 lets go!
Great stuff guys! When you’re singing a 31 TET arrangement, after recording it, do you tune it in any way? (Adjustments for taste or specific cents) Or are you guys just using your ears?
Awesome, great job!
Thanks, Todd! Really glad you liked it. Have you ever done something similar?
Thats just wow, thank you so much
Thank YOU for digging it! :)
Man, I have so many people to support on Patreon now....this is GOLD!
We'd love to have you on board on Patreon!
This is so cool
Yes! I was waiting for this, great video!
Yeah, sorry it took so long, animating worms is much more work than we thought... :D
@@HearBetweenTheLines animated worms can greatly enhance viewers engagement, and you proved it!
@@MusicianParadise Did you get the joke about the wormhole in the beginning? ;)
@@HearBetweenTheLines Yes! (after reading your comment, lol) but I laughed so hard listening to microtonal "Girl from Ipanema" background music!
the video quality is so obnoxiously good I sincerely wish I had noticed your channel before
Wow! Glad you enjoy it ;)
BOYS, YOU ARE GENIUS!! CONGRATULATIONS FROM ARGENTINA
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!
0:45 love how you talked to the rhythm, intentionally or not
Hehe, it wasn’t intentional, but it also made me happy :)
Your content is so awesome guys, thank you so much.
What's the song in the background at the end btw ?
Thanks so much! It's a loop Rami recorded last year inspired by the band Moonchild :) So it's not a song... yet?
It seems like the algorithm has finally understood what I want.
Very good explanations
:dacob:
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Thanks a lot!
hey im coming from the jacobean stream!
Awesome, glad to have you here! How'd you like the video? :)
@@HearBetweenTheLines god i freaking loved it! I couldnt even remember everything i loved about this vid but it definetly destroyed my brain, especially that örime number part just shows how everything is connected!
Could you possibly tell me which program you used to play the microtones?
I will definetly check out your other vids and will probably have to rewatch that one a few times.
PS: 8:30 Sneaky lick
@@albusking2966 Yeah, it's absolutely bonkers how everything is connected, e.g. how each prime number in the overtone series is a new pitch-class!
We're so glad you dig it! Share it with the world ;)
And if you have any questions: We'll soon do a Q&A!
@@HearBetweenTheLines i have so many quastions but probably better in a month after my abitur.
keep the great work up!
@@albusking2966 Awesome. Good luck!
Too underrated
Great, In the next weeks we work on some partitures by Philip Corner, father of the Fluxus music, wich using some microtones in is scores!!
Sounds interesting! In what setting are you working on that?
@@HearBetweenTheLines We are working with chamber instruments, such as violin, viola and flute, and then with a classical guitar (tuned normally, but with a lot of glissato possibility) and a Gu Zeng.
Hey great video. What's the song at the end?
Thanks! It's a beatsketch Rami made after listening to the latest Moonchild album :)
@@HearBetweenTheLines nice is it released anywhere so we can take a listen?
What tuning is that bass in?
Rami refretted most of it to 24-TET :)
"Stay tuned", duh! I gotta stay detuned if I wanna practice my 31-tet! 9:17
8:30 when you played the licc I lost my mind
We just couldn't resist... ;)
4:33 = F shat and F flarp?? :D still giggling. Awesome video, guys!
Thanks!!
Yeah, I think our favourite comment so far was: "(...)but 'shat' has unfortunate connotations. (...)"
So the new nomenclature definitely gives us a lot of joy...
By the way: There's also 'heart' for a 3/4 flat and 'fries' for 3/4 sharp. ;)
I was pretty disappointed when I discovered that 31tet has terrible whole tones, why, just why. Adaptive JI it is then
Since it's near 1/4 comma(S.C.) meantone, yeah whole tone is almost exactly between 10/9 and 9/8
Took me too long to realize. I was once improvising using whole tones and felt so weird lol