How to use microtones to harmonise? | Ep. 3

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ก.ค. 2024
  • How can Jacob Collier divide a minor 3rd into 4 pieces? And how could you possibly harmonise a sub-chromatic line?!
    In our third episode of 'Hear Between The Lines' - our series about microtonal harmony and voice-leading - we focus on dividing intervals into ever smaller steps, and how to harmonise the results.
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    00:00​ Intro
    00:35 Rhythmic subdivisions
    00:57 Subdividing Intervals / Pitchspaces
    01:12 Maj 3rd: Diatonic & Chromatic Divisions
    01:36 24-TET: Dividing Prime Number Intervals
    02:06 Dividing a min 3rd in 24-TET
    02:35 That JC Video: b3 in 4 pieces
    02:51 Can we harmonise it? Sure!
    03:08 31-TET overview
    03:47 Applying 31-TET to the JC Example
    03:57 Harmonising a quartered min 3rd
    04:21 Breakdown of our harmonisation
    06:17 Let's hear this monster!
    06:36 Free-Flowing Harmonisation
    07:00 Let's try it together!
    07:09 LEVEL 1: Sing a minor 3rd!
    07:24 LEVEL 2: Divide it chromatically!
    07:40 LEVEL 3: Halve it (neutral 2nd)!
    08:02 LEVEL 4: Divide it into 4 pieces! Jacob-style :)))
    08:27 HARMONIZED WORM and closing thoughts
    08:41 Wanna practice it? Head over to our Patreon!
    09:00 Thanking our Patrons and Outro

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  • @FASTFASTmusic
    @FASTFASTmusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    I want a friendship like Rami and Freddi. Sipping coffee and talking microtones. Changing the future.

  • @HEHEHEIAMASUPAHSTARSAGA
    @HEHEHEIAMASUPAHSTARSAGA 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Great stuff once again. It's an interesting idea to choose an edo based on the divisions you want, and then letting that edo guide the other harmony.

    • @wizardito-ol9133
      @wizardito-ol9133 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I somehow knew- after your 19-tet series, that you would come here. Will you ever do one on 31-tet?

    • @HearBetweenTheLines
      @HearBetweenTheLines  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oooh yes, we'd also be interested on your take on 31!

    • @HEHEHEIAMASUPAHSTARSAGA
      @HEHEHEIAMASUPAHSTARSAGA 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks so much!

  • @alanrie
    @alanrie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I'm so glad my friend introduced me to this channel! Thank you so much for the great content, i can't wait to be bragging about being one of your first 500 subs when the channel hits some big-big numbers :э

    • @HearBetweenTheLines
      @HearBetweenTheLines  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much for your lovely comment, we're really happy about how the videos are being received! Tell as many people as you can! :D

  • @billyguevara99
    @billyguevara99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What an amazing unique channel. Glad to find you!

  • @ClaraLucas
    @ClaraLucas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And yet again! Such a great video!

  • @SenicoOcines
    @SenicoOcines 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    wow microtonal stuff! this channel is a gold mine

  • @eriknatanael
    @eriknatanael 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great stuff as usual!

  • @tinaburova
    @tinaburova 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for inviting us into your wormhole, so much fun!

  • @benyamind
    @benyamind 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Fun stuff man! Also, I really like the table between you guys haha

  • @KiteGiedraitis
    @KiteGiedraitis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another great video! Thank you!

  • @stephenweigel
    @stephenweigel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You guys are gonna love my 19-TET arrangement of Bridge Over Troubled Water, I split a (edited) major sixth into seven in it :D

    • @HearBetweenTheLines
      @HearBetweenTheLines  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Did you also harmonise it? We'd love to hear it!

    • @stirlingblackwood
      @stirlingblackwood 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But isn't a 19TET minor sixth 13 steps? 🤔

    • @HearBetweenTheLines
      @HearBetweenTheLines  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@stirlingblackwood It is. In this episode we didn't get into uneven divisions. That's another rabbithole - and a very exciting one at that! In another episode :)

    • @stephenweigel
      @stephenweigel 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stirlingblackwood Rami and I talked about this today - and I straight up just said minor sixth when I meant major sixth! Haha, sorry! The arrangement is at the link here:
      th-cam.com/video/C6FpVhDUsfM/w-d-xo.html
      From 4:18 to 4:25, the bass line does it! B-C-Db-D#-E-F-FX-G#
      (On my Patreon account you can see the transcription early)

  • @nicolaslanos4250
    @nicolaslanos4250 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a great video, please continue doing this!

  • @Holzblut
    @Holzblut 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    very well explained!!!🙂 best regards

  • @steve-4045
    @steve-4045 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Note that 31 TET is virtually the same as quarter comma meantone tuning including double sharps and double flats. So you can extract scales and chords with really consonant thirds and fifths that are just a bit more out than in 12 tone equal temperament.

  • @ucanihl
    @ucanihl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    6:00 You have just entered the realm of Middle Eastern music haha. It's so cool to see people working on theory.

    • @HearBetweenTheLines
      @HearBetweenTheLines  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, we're really getting into Middle Eastern music actually. 31 works really nicely for that, too, although, as with any EDO lower than at least around 53 you lose some nuances..

    • @ucanihl
      @ucanihl 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HearBetweenTheLines Hey, do you know any good book about middle eastern music theory? There are books from more than thousand years ago I mean, Al-Farabi and guys like him wrote ofc but I don't know if they have any English translations. Even if they had, I don't think they study harmony :P

    • @HearBetweenTheLines
      @HearBetweenTheLines  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ucanihl Yes, Rami is actually reading one right now called "Inside Arabic Music: Arabic Maqam Performance and Theory in the 20th Century"
      by Sami Abu Shumays and Johnny Farraj
      It doesn't cover harmony, but if you want to understand how Maqamat work, it's the best out there right now. :)

    • @ucanihl
      @ucanihl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HearBetweenTheLines thank you very much!

    • @HearBetweenTheLines
      @HearBetweenTheLines  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ucanihl You're very welcome! If you have any questions, let us know!

  • @Trainwreck3000
    @Trainwreck3000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    EP 3 lets go!

  • @noahzaidspiner8573
    @noahzaidspiner8573 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great stuff guys! When you’re singing a 31 TET arrangement, after recording it, do you tune it in any way? (Adjustments for taste or specific cents) Or are you guys just using your ears?

  • @toddharrop9094
    @toddharrop9094 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome, great job!

    • @HearBetweenTheLines
      @HearBetweenTheLines  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, Todd! Really glad you liked it. Have you ever done something similar?

  • @monosTVsports
    @monosTVsports 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thats just wow, thank you so much

  • @starrybenchstudios
    @starrybenchstudios 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man, I have so many people to support on Patreon now....this is GOLD!

  • @NicolasPL_
    @NicolasPL_ ปีที่แล้ว

    This is so cool

  • @MusicianParadise
    @MusicianParadise 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes! I was waiting for this, great video!

    • @HearBetweenTheLines
      @HearBetweenTheLines  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, sorry it took so long, animating worms is much more work than we thought... :D

    • @MusicianParadise
      @MusicianParadise 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HearBetweenTheLines animated worms can greatly enhance viewers engagement, and you proved it!

    • @HearBetweenTheLines
      @HearBetweenTheLines  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MusicianParadise Did you get the joke about the wormhole in the beginning? ;)

    • @MusicianParadise
      @MusicianParadise 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HearBetweenTheLines Yes! (after reading your comment, lol) but I laughed so hard listening to microtonal "Girl from Ipanema" background music!

  • @antekbojarczuk9006
    @antekbojarczuk9006 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the video quality is so obnoxiously good I sincerely wish I had noticed your channel before

  • @mariagotica8569
    @mariagotica8569 ปีที่แล้ว

    BOYS, YOU ARE GENIUS!! CONGRATULATIONS FROM ARGENTINA

  • @Ronkz
    @Ronkz 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    0:45 love how you talked to the rhythm, intentionally or not

    • @HearBetweenTheLines
      @HearBetweenTheLines  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hehe, it wasn’t intentional, but it also made me happy :)

  • @Anarchips
    @Anarchips 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your content is so awesome guys, thank you so much.
    What's the song in the background at the end btw ?

    • @HearBetweenTheLines
      @HearBetweenTheLines  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks so much! It's a loop Rami recorded last year inspired by the band Moonchild :) So it's not a song... yet?

  • @segmentsAndCurves
    @segmentsAndCurves 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It seems like the algorithm has finally understood what I want.

  • @silver1788
    @silver1788 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good explanations

  • @albusking2966
    @albusking2966 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    hey im coming from the jacobean stream!

    • @HearBetweenTheLines
      @HearBetweenTheLines  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome, glad to have you here! How'd you like the video? :)

    • @albusking2966
      @albusking2966 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HearBetweenTheLines god i freaking loved it! I couldnt even remember everything i loved about this vid but it definetly destroyed my brain, especially that örime number part just shows how everything is connected!
      Could you possibly tell me which program you used to play the microtones?
      I will definetly check out your other vids and will probably have to rewatch that one a few times.
      PS: 8:30 Sneaky lick

    • @HearBetweenTheLines
      @HearBetweenTheLines  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@albusking2966 Yeah, it's absolutely bonkers how everything is connected, e.g. how each prime number in the overtone series is a new pitch-class!
      We're so glad you dig it! Share it with the world ;)
      And if you have any questions: We'll soon do a Q&A!

    • @albusking2966
      @albusking2966 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@HearBetweenTheLines i have so many quastions but probably better in a month after my abitur.
      keep the great work up!

    • @HearBetweenTheLines
      @HearBetweenTheLines  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@albusking2966 Awesome. Good luck!

  • @sammusic7537
    @sammusic7537 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Too underrated

  • @SasimeRecords
    @SasimeRecords ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great, In the next weeks we work on some partitures by Philip Corner, father of the Fluxus music, wich using some microtones in is scores!!

    • @HearBetweenTheLines
      @HearBetweenTheLines  ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounds interesting! In what setting are you working on that?

    • @SasimeRecords
      @SasimeRecords ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HearBetweenTheLines We are working with chamber instruments, such as violin, viola and flute, and then with a classical guitar (tuned normally, but with a lot of glissato possibility) and a Gu Zeng.

  • @robertovega3888
    @robertovega3888 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey great video. What's the song at the end?

    • @HearBetweenTheLines
      @HearBetweenTheLines  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! It's a beatsketch Rami made after listening to the latest Moonchild album :)

    • @robertovega3888
      @robertovega3888 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HearBetweenTheLines nice is it released anywhere so we can take a listen?

  • @hambourghini5023
    @hambourghini5023 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What tuning is that bass in?

  • @itsbazyli
    @itsbazyli 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Stay tuned", duh! I gotta stay detuned if I wanna practice my 31-tet! 9:17

  • @raymondchou9550
    @raymondchou9550 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    8:30 when you played the licc I lost my mind

  • @tpootsld2669
    @tpootsld2669 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    4:33 = F shat and F flarp?? :D still giggling. Awesome video, guys!

    • @HearBetweenTheLines
      @HearBetweenTheLines  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks!!
      Yeah, I think our favourite comment so far was: "(...)but 'shat' has unfortunate connotations. (...)"
      So the new nomenclature definitely gives us a lot of joy...
      By the way: There's also 'heart' for a 3/4 flat and 'fries' for 3/4 sharp. ;)

  • @gabrielrangel956
    @gabrielrangel956 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was pretty disappointed when I discovered that 31tet has terrible whole tones, why, just why. Adaptive JI it is then

    • @frfrchopin
      @frfrchopin ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Since it's near 1/4 comma(S.C.) meantone, yeah whole tone is almost exactly between 10/9 and 9/8

    • @amj.composer
      @amj.composer ปีที่แล้ว

      Took me too long to realize. I was once improvising using whole tones and felt so weird lol