My Honest Opinion On Pastel & Nu Goth
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I feel like Nu goth is a great gateway into the subculture. It was so much easier to shop and see what styles and silhouettes I liked before investing in $80 dresses and $200 shoes lol.
Brooke Adams - what I really love about my goth is it pulls a lot of elements and inspiration from the 80's, and it has a bit of a witchy vibe to it as well. I love it.
My style of goth is so weird... I dress kinda 60s'ish. If I had to say, lots of my style ranges from very dark 60s/70s clothes influence to lots of nu-goth in my style, and as well as some 80s clothes here and there. As I do listen to the 80s goth music. I can say, I also would consider myself to have lots of bohemian goth in my style as well.
well, definitley better than baby bat...
I honestly just LOVE platforms and more modern and japanese-inspired fashions! But I still appreciate the music and such. I lean more towards "witchy" than "goth", because I don't want goths to be offended
Lets be honest if you like to wear a specific thing, be it nu goth or pastel got or even cyber goth and classic goth then where's the issue? they're all just people who like that darker theme but in a different way :) be comfortable with yourself and be proud for those that are
Spotted Dragon thank you I needed this comment in my life
It kinda feels like people are trying to gatekeep who's goth and who's not just based on what they wear or what music they listen to and it reminds me why I don't get involved in communities. As long as they aren't hurting anyone just let them do what they want and wear what they want.
I was a teenager in the 90s, so it makes sense that I'm part glitter goth, part hippie goth, part Victorian goth, (but chronic illness leaves me in my PJs most of the time). I totally appreciate the nu goth trend because as you said: it's pretty easy! No corset to lace, no flouncy skirts to get caught on things, and my unteaseable hair fits in just fine. Pastel goth is cute. The sparkle bat in me understands it.
I've been in love with the gothic subculture for about ten years but have always been timid about getting into the fashion and make up. I live in a very conservative place and have a very conservative family. The nu goth/pastel goth fashion has given me a chance to express myself but still blend in. I don't like calling attention to myself, and these two fashion trends are a little bit more comfortable to wear
I know, this is not related to the topic but I just have to say, this hair colour looks so awesome on you and I feel like you could pull off pretty much every hair colour!
thank you! im finally happy with my hair colour yay! xx
You're welcome :) Oh and I appreciate that you talked about it and I really really liked your thoughts right at the beginning of the video, that you clarified that it's kind of always been how it is today
I'm new to this Channel and I have a question, is their a style called nu-pastel goth if not Ive started something new.
Branwe Davies some people combine them but its not its own subculture bc its kinda redundant
I 100% agree with you on the Pastel Goth and Nu Goth trends! I've liked the Gothic subculture for awhile (particularly the Gothic music, poetry, books, art, etc.), but never really knew how to express myself in the scene in regards to my fashion. I've always appreciated other Goth styles such as Cyber, Trad, Death Rock, Romantic Goth, etc., but they never really suited me. Once I discovered Nu Goth, I realized I found a style that truly fit my aesthetic. Finally having a way to express my style got me more and more interested in growing my knowledge about the Gothic subculture. Now I absolutely love it and I think the scene suits me so well. I mean...I'm still worried other Goths will think I'm "posing" or "following a trend" with the Nu Goth style, but thank you for making this video as it's given me more confidence to express myself! ^.^ ♥
Rachael Mortician SAAAAMMMMEE
I like nu goth because it's easy to be lazy with it, i prefer trad goth but it's not always my day to day thing
To me feels like pastel goth is the modern equivalent of the switchblade symphony aesthetic from the 90s. In a decade heavily inspired by the east cultures and post modernism it's a natural outcome. Homogeneity is the ultimate killer of any artistic movement and goth is no exception which I totally agree with you but I honestly feel that people who treat it as an exclusive club frozen in time simply don't know the history of art.
I feel the same as you do in regards to pastel goth. I love the colors themselves and like having things with those colors but not wearing them. I feel like it doesn't suit me as much as just all black does. For nu goth, it is really easy to achieve like you said if you have little to no money and it's such a great place to start if you're new to the subculture. I personally don't dress too out there so I think it's not bad at all :).
A lot of people say that Pastel Goth isn't really subculture due to only having a fashion background, but they don't say that about Gothic Lolita??? I think it's really unfair to glorify the original styles and view new recent takes on gothic fashion as shallow and "not proper goth"
Gothic lolita isn't in the goth subculture it's in lolita subculture.
Honey, no one in the goth subculture complains about Gothic Lolita - because we know it's not goth. It's Lolita. Gothic Lolita.
Finally, someone who approaches this topic logically and without elitism! Thank you for presenting your opinion. Also, I know several "pastel goth" who listen to Gothic music. I would classify myself more as a trad goth more often then not, but I understand these trends in the subculture too. Also, gothic subculture is partially about being who you are and not worrying what people think. Thinking about it like that, Goths should be some of the most accepting in this regard. Let people be themselves even if you don't agree ^^
I guess the real fear is the beauty of the goth subculture getting diluted into just a trend, when it is so much more than that. People who once degraded and bullied goths for dressing in black, are now jumping on the fashion, and I can fully understand how that pisses a lot of goths off. People need to understand this apart from their own point of view, or there will be no peace or understanding within the subculture.
Also, just because someone expresses their disagreement/distaste with pastel/nu goth, it doesn't make it necessary for them to be called an "elitist". That term is getting *abused* now-a-days. It's understandable why some are disgusted, even though I like both trends when I dabble into them in my own personal way!
Pastel is not really my first choice but I do get its appeal, I mean there ARE people who like "darker" things but also like colors and some "silly" themes so Pastel is the best combination for them
I remember this young girl I used to know that once said in a very childish yet wise way" I like skulls, and pink...so why can't I like pink skulls ? is a win win !"
Thank you very much for the shoutout for my channel and for the band! :) love this video, I agree completely with what you are saying, especially the transition through the decade!
Did you know that Pastel Goth has been around for a long time? When I was going to goth clubs in 1990 it was around then.
Yay! I can't wait for the "goths portrayed in media" video! Thank you for taking my suggestion.
As for certain characters, the Addams Family is good, also Raven from Teen Titans, Abby from NCIS, and Lydia from Beetlejuice. Those are just a few, but you can talk about whoever you want. :)
One of the best movie quotes ever.
Morticia: "You have married Fester, you have destroyed his spirit, you have taken him from us. All that I could forgive. But Debbie..."
Debbie: "What?"
Morticia: "Pastels?"
the hex girls from scooby doo. :P
my favs haha. Don't forget Sam from Danny Phantom and Ingrid Third from Fillmore!
I would respect those styles more if the clothing is more torn and more accessories on it. Goth is based on DIY and I think its important to keep that element in the sub culture
I think we're at opposite ends of the spectrum. I always admired gothic styles, but would not buy from gothic stores myself as I find the clothes too busy.
I like a gothic print, I am always on the look out for a black dress with white bat/cat pattern - but it's difficult to find a bat dress that doesn't also have corseting, or lace hems, or spikes, or mesh ect. For that reason, I've often had to DIY or make specific requests of my local dressmakers. I don't think simple clothes exclude a DIY element, creative people will create.
Emma C but thats kind of the whole point of the goth subculture because the clothes are very busy looking. No styles have never looked simplistic. I believe nu goth is just for posers.
I disagree. The whole point of goth as a style was to take the music, the literature, take whatever aspect of goth that inspired you and express it through your outward appearance. The reason DIY was a part of that was because those clothes didn't exist, so you'd take something and adapt it, or you'd make something from scratch. Before nu-goth, minimalistic goth styles did exist, like corporate goth, for example.
Emma C goth is about living it and not becoming it!
Emma C I see your point but corporate goth still stood out from the mainstream where as nu goth isn't. Its just basic clothes with black that you can find in everyday stores
Okay, after seeing you with black hair, and now seeing you with white/blonde hair, I think the split white/black hair would look awesome on you! Love your videos!!
I personally love almost every goth fashion. If I had to define my style it would be glam goth or nu goth. Because my makeup is very instagram but my outfits are always black with occult symbols and band shirts and a bunch of clothes from shops like forever 21. I've gotten a lot of chokers from there actually, because they're trendy right now which is convenient.
What I'm really annoyed of is not what people wear but it really annoys me that the same people under the same picture use hashtags like scene emo grunge goth... like it would be just other words for the same thing
and I just have to say it you look so so so amazingly beautiful
Juny yeah and I've noticed grunge has gotten more girly too lol don't totally hate it tho but sometimes it goes way off the original and I'm left wondering, "how? Do they even know what grunge is?"
Being a part of the subculture myself, I choose not to always wear gothic clothes but I do have a side shave and I try different things with my hair including hair colour. People stare at me anyway because I have what is called Hydrocephalus and a huge scar on my head when my head is fully shaved and a pysical disability. So I say, if they want to stare at me, I will give them something to stare at, so I choose to dye my hair purple or red or something abnormal and if they don't like it, they can bugger off. Most people like how I dress or look.
i agree with you! ;3 i like pastel and nu goth like i really like it, It's a modern type of goth.. and yeah posers and shits but they are in every styles, not just in goth so.. kinda normal i think..
For Goths in the media, I love the goth kids from South Park, they're hilarious as they're exaggerated stereotypes but there's also some truth in the jokes and it's fun to laugh at ourselves. I also think Death from The Sandman comics is a very positive representation of goth as her personality isn't the negative stereotype you often see in media. Loving the hair by the way ♡
Project Pitchfork put it perfectly "(We are one) Mirror split up into pieces"
You look...SNOWY (I'm so lame sorry 😅) but really you remind me of Snow White but cooler because I'm loving your hair
Netzy Navarro BRUH THAT'S AMAZING
Imagine modern snow white so basically Snowy as Snow White!! So like snow white is this super cool goth
Snowy would be perfect too because she's so sweet!
I love that there's variety and I love pulling something from all the "goth" looks and making it my own. I love when goth is trendy because that's when you load up on your wardrobe or wait till it goes back out of style and hit the thrift stores!!
Ellen Eve yes, the post-trend thrift store finds are amazing!
It's really good to see you being so positive about the two styles ^-^
I love your take on this and how you reflect on the situation and discuss both sides, so interesting, love your positivity. Very inspiring, also loving this hair and blazer looks amazing
your hair looks fantastic! I'm glad you took the plunge to finally get the hair color you really wanted, because you pull it off so well. Cheers!
the thing is I like dressing as a golden goddess with highlight and all and the other time I'm decked out in nu gothic clothes. yes it's cheaper too cause I'm a broke ass college student lol but regardless I've always liked the goth culture I'm not posing or anything ✨💀
As always you share an accepting and open-minded perspective, that's why I keep watching your videos. xo
Kate Holland why did you upload your video 3 times?
you're such a breath of fresh air in an ocean of elitists! Love you xxx
wow! i love your outfit today!
I'm NU goth and I love it!
I can "keep up" with trends but still be me.
Thank you Snowy for your wonderful videos. I enjoy watching them and hearing your opinion on things. Love your look by the way.
omg that hair colour is so beautiful on you!
I think its good to chill about it, so I agree with you. I think the point of why some people are annoyed with pastel or nu goth it's that gothic rock icons were influenced by punk music. So I feel like many goths value the anti establishment mentality of punk. They see bands like the cure, siouxsie and the banshees, and sisters of mercy were a counter movement to the materialistic society of the 80s. Many don't feel like pastel or nu goth reflect that history or mentality. I've heard people say, "well girls are encouraged to be cute so what's goth about it?" Then nu goths is very marketed so not very goth either, to some. It's just one pov and I think it's good to recognize different avenues of self expression as valid since that's a very important part of gothic subculture as well.
Jeanette Martinez I don't see how Lolita, Victorian, or even cyber looks THAT related to punk either. It branches off...because it is a different style that came from post punk that came from punk. Different means different even if trad and deathrock are still around.
ultragaze That is a good point. It is weird to protest nu goth or pastel and not do the same to Lolita or Victorian (cyber could be anti mainstream I guess in some ways).
Well, to be fair, Gothic Lolita isn't goth - it's a style of the Lolita fashion (which I adore). It just has the word "gothic" in it, as its inspired by the gothic imagery. Same as, for instance, gothic metal, which isn't "goth" at all. It's just the use of the word "gothic" to describe an "aesthetic".
The people who dress nu or pastel, do have interests in the goth, and what the scene is about. Like it's a trend, but not a mainstream trend, so we ain't getting any old joe blogs in the scene.
ugh, I just fucking love your hair. you're so beautiful 😍😍😍
thank you so much!
Great video Swowy! 💜
You're right when you say; "you just do you, and let other people do their own thing."
I've been into the goth subculture since it began in the 80's (yep, I'm old... 😔)
Goth was always supposed to be fun, there were no rules and regulations.
Some other TH-camrs take themselves way too seriously, they're self appointed goth lecturers - they sound so ridiculous, and so unbelievably up themselves.
So, yes, great video Snowy! 💜
I love your channel, and most of all I lice your strong and independent attitude.
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This video is so positive, I love it! I recently have taken am interest in the goth subculture and think it may be something I'm interested in. If I were to be a part of it I think I would go nu goth and I was afraid it would be something that most of the goths would look down apon for being kind of trendy. But this video made me feel very comfortable to try something a little new to me! Thank you for this video :D
You look great with this hair colour! As for the pastels; I think that pastel / ice blue would look very good on you! And maybe pastel yellow (for example a pastel yellow top with black leather skirt.
I love this video so much!!!! You know what you're talking about girl!
You look so beautiful in this Snowy. Your commentary on the topic was really interesting. Please do more videos about your opinions!
I love your eye shadow!
Aww thats so sweet! For a second I thought it was going to bve a bashing video and at the end I was so happy! I too perfer to wear black most of the time but here and then I see light pinks and lilac and I just want to wear it!!
Great video. I grew up in the 90's and always am obsessed with 80s/90s styles but I personally don't mind if someone is into the pastel goth style. I wouldn't wear it myself unless I get requests to show off the style on videos etc and try to put together something interesting. I like black clothes mostly but once a pastel goth style chick sent me this really pretty pastel purple bracelet and I thought it was so sweet. I welcome nu goth style and other styles into our subculture. I don't think people should be snotty or exclusive.
I am 26 I am a young mum to 3 children (7, 5 and 3) I have been goth for 17yrs, my mother is an elder goth, I dress Nu goth because as a mum it's more comfortable, cheaper and quicker to dress this way, I can run around after my little ones with ease and not give up how I like to dress, us young goth mums get judged enough by society, we don't need people of our own subculture telling us we are aren't apart of the subculture just because we dress Nu goth, (now I know not only goth mums dress this way but, I am speaking from my own experience) it's actually very pathetic, rude and only posers and elitists feel the need to be that intense, since when did goth become about fashion and not about the music, personalities, and being around others with the same interests?
I'm just about to write an essay about representation of goth / 'evil' characters so it would be great if you could mention people from Harry Potter e.g. Bellatrix LeStrange as that will be the focus! Some other goth Characters you may or may not be interested in is Sarah from Bring it on: in it to win it (a cheerleading film), Miss Perigrine (miss perigrine's home for peculiar children), the main character in The Craft, and there's a cute cartoon called Lenore the little dead girl :)
Amber Thorntail you mean Nancy from The Craft I'm guessing 😊
Yes that's the one :')
Angela Benedict just did a video on the week the craft came out in the cinema and how that influenced peoples perception of goth in her high school. You might want to check it out
That sounds interesting, thank you!
loved ths video Snowy! I love trad, death rocker and nu goth. Not into pastel goth becuse I don't like pastel colours or really cute/feminine clothes. I do like a bit of colour though. Your style is a big inspiration to me! As for the elitism, some people just take it way too seriously and use their goth "status" as a way to put people down.
I love your thoughts and opinions on this subject! As someone who has adored the goth subculture since I was fairly young, but has had little to no self-esteem to fully express it in my fashion choices; Nu Goth is a really awesome and, as you said, affordable way for me to express my interest and build my self esteem! Love these kinds of videos from you :) Hope you are doing well!! ~
I dress nu-goth because it's my style esthetic. I hate goths bashing me because of it. I don't call myself goth. I'm my own style. I just adore the fashion with nu-goth. People should just let people be who they are without labels tbh.
I think it's awesome!
More types and subcultures is so much fun.
People who are upset about it make me kinda sad
It's culture developing
I couldn't agree more about what you said about how people think people who wear goth subculture and stuff they are uneducated, or posers etc.
It's really nice to see a goth like you who actually can talk about this kindly and not just trash it :)
My fashion is pretty much 90's inspo, romantic goth, kind of dolly at times, and punk. It depends on how I feel! I think you'd look adorable in pastelgoth, but only just a little. I myself feel best in black. I loved your video (:
Winnona Ryder was kind of the go-to Goth teen in the 90's, as Lydia in Beetlejuice, Veronica in Heathers and Dinky in Welcome Home Roxy Carmichael (a film that fell into total obscurity). And then there's Nancy, from The Craft ... They were all portrayed as being "weird" and just a little (or a lot) crazy.
your makeup is so pretty,you look so squishy...
Elder goth here. I've been in the subculture since the 80s, and have been the DIY route, and still DIY and thrift most of my clothes. I wear mostly black, but if I do wear a color, it's either royal blue, lime green, or purple. I do like pastel goth, but I'm too dark for most of those items, and I don;'t really like baby pink. Hot pink is OK though. I agree 100 percent with what you said about styles evolving. They have to. There always has to be new and fresh ideas out there for the subculture to survive. And yep, goth will never be mainstream, but the styles are beautiful, and many have stood the test of time. I myself have evolved into nu goth style. It is a lot easier. (Jan Griffiths).
Can't get over your hair. It's so pretty! I'm going platinum blonde soon. I have a deathhawk 😁 my style is a mixture of trad and nu.
White-blonde hair looks so good on you :3
I just realised I dress quite nu-goth, and I didn't even know! My style is a weird mix of nu-goth, punk, hippie, grunge and vintage...I basically change my style on a daily basis :D Also, pastel goth is so cute and I kinda wish I could dress like that, but I can't really pull off bright pastel colours :P
your friend is adorable !
I sometimes dress nu goth, and mostly pastel goth (it depends on how i am feeling tbh, it changes a lot) and thank you so much for not bashing these two styles
i totally agree with you also I'm glad that those new trends which aren't bad new goth and pastel Goths are cute and are keeping goth alive because like you said it will never be main stream and i don't won't it to fade away, in LA where i live for example is so rare to see anyone dress goth but they all seems to come out on a saturday at bar sinister, but still it isn't like it used to be !! when i lived in London it was much better!!! here in the usa Unfortunatley rap and hip hop have taken over 😢
Oh yay! I was your 2000th like on this vid! Haha
Thank you for saying this! 💕❄️
Been a while since I watched one of your vids. I like the hair :3
omg you are so pretty and cute subscribed to youu!
I really love Pastel Goth with all the creepy-cute styles. I love the bows with the eyeballs and the spiky headbands with the roses. I love pastel as well as bright neon colours. Pastel Goth is more colourful and I think that's what gets people because there isn't much black involved or it isn't "dark" enough.
this is so true, never thought about it that way
Hi Snowy, just to say that having been Goth for over 30 years, I do use items from mainstream fashion in my look but it does tend to be trad rather than pastel as that seems so far from where we came from. Nu Goth seems more available to more people, so that must be a good thing :) I personally always feel under-dressed whenever I see pictures of Whitby festival or if I go to gigs so there will always be someone Gother-than-thou!!!!
Definitely agreeing. Nice video!
i love nu goth style honestly because it is easy to attain. I have been involved in the goth subculture since I was 14 and I have always just diyed everything or ebayed everything since. i put together my outfits on whichever style i feel like wearing that day. it can be 90's, romantic, deathrock, trad goth, nu goth....it is whatever i feel like. thats how goth should be honestly is just expresseing yourself in whatever darkly inclined style and interests you have!
This is so well said thank you!
I've wanted to dress goth since I was like super little and my mom (a former goth) was always super supportive but there was never a style I liked until I discovered nu-goth and pastel goth. I love them and am trying to build up my wardrobe now.
I totally agree! It's inspiring with new trends :-)
I love Sweeney DeVilles channel!
Devils.Night thank you:)
Devils.Night agree watched his channel after this loved his view on top 10 Gothic Albums and his hair is so cute such an awesome guy 😊 thanks Snowy Lowther pointing him out x
Being the artist that I am I try to see beauty in all things. Including which is very different. I particularly don't like labeling. Though it does help others at times with research and identifying. I really think that we need to be more open minded and respectful of others. Tearing someone down solves nothing. I look at it this way. We are all unique individuals and to each his or her own when it comes to styles ect... I wear what I like and can afford. Some items I restyle and make them my own. When you go to a Art/History Museum there is so much variety to see. We can learn from each other. I love seeing people express themselves in art, poetry, music, fashion ect... they are living life and having fun. As for Symbolism that is a preference. But doing your research helps just in case you get in a awkward situation that goes south. Hugs and blessings.
your hair
you're hair is so cute! BTW I love youu💙💙I know you wont reply but yeah 😩😵
I like the minimalstic type of nu-goth style with elements of strega fashion. it's remind me the 80's goth fashion with some new twist.
I think Nu Goth happened because of all the scene and emo kids, etc. falling out of that specific subculture and trying to find their way in alternative fashion as a whole. With pastel goth, I love it so much because people like me no longer need to feel the pressure to decide between two things we love; cute and creepy.
I totally agree with you on pastel goth, I think it's so cute and aesthetically pleasing but it's something I would just never wear cus I think black looks so much better on me xxx
Death rocker aesthetic all my life. Now into pastel goth. I just don't understand why some goths are so pissy about other goths looking gorgeously aposematic.
what eyeliner did you use on your upper lashline?? all ive tried bleed down to my waterline and make a mess but you look so amazing
Nice video. I was a goth in the mid - late eighties and into the nineties to an extent. I feel this is an argument that has existed from the beginnings of goth. Just wear what makes you happy and stuff what everyone else thinks!!
You're beautiful 🖤
As an elder goth who has identified as goth since the early 1990s (though my style fit it even when I was a child in the '80s before I even knew what goth was), I love pastel goth and nu goth. I think it's fantastic that the creativity within the goth subculture is continuing to grow and change. It's keeping a subculture that has meant so much to me throughout my life alive and it inspires me to continue to play with my own fashion. It gives new life to something that would get boring and die out otherwise.
I love seeing what new things people come up with. Creativity and self expression have always been at the core of goth and I love seeing that those things continue to be important even after several decades.
i have looked up on many goth styles to make up to all the way clothing , i mainly like all of them , but i see myself more of causal goth i guess you would say. even though i don't really see it in the subculture nowadays or even in the past !?. i think it be something interesting to search about!.?!.
I like Goth music. I like wearing black. I like dramatic makeup and dying my hair "unnatural" colors. I've never considered my style of dressing as goth. I call it preppy with an edge 😊
I do love the goth style though... I really admire how creative some people get with their outfits and overall look. I like taking basic black pieces and adding accessories that have a bit of a goth vibe. Possibly I've got a bit of the nu-goth in me...
I really love Pastel Goth and Nu Goth fashion and also Trad and Victorian.
I really like both and I haven't dressed goth in years, like since the 80's. But I'm kind of wanting to now because of the newer styles.
I'm an early 90s goth and you're so wright about the darker take of the decades fashion trends!
What's your opinion on Scene and Emo Fashion? Can't you make a video about it? :)
So like I know this videos old. But what if I’m goth but I wear a very little bit of pastel
what about goth grunge?
I also feel like nugoth and pastel goth are good gateways for people just getting into the subculture too, and either can't afford some of the more expensive goth clothing, or are young and have parents who don't want them to wear all black, or are transitioning from a "normal" style to goth. Or, you know, maybe they're lazy like me and don't want to put a ton of effort into their fashion upkeep, or, also like me, don't want to subscribe to *one* sort of label. I really like your viewpoint on these, I feel like there's so much exclusion and elitism in the goth community, expecially pointed toward nu and pastel goths, and it's not a cute thing.
I agree that elements of the nu goth look are easier on those of us who dont necessarily get some of the more extreme aspects of the subculture. Its interesting that many of the people I grew up with in the 70s - Robert Smith, Siouxsie etc - have gone to great pains in interviews to disown their own influence on goth culture, presumably because they didnt want to be painted into a style corner (even if Smith seems happy to retain much the same look all these years later). Yvonne De Carlo and Carolyn Jones remain the prototypical trad goth for mine but I doubt that either would have worn any of their wardrobe away from the set - happy to hear otherwise. My first interaction with the people we currently consider 'trad' would have been late 70s / early 80s - they were just people who wore a lot of black and hung around with punks. The vast majority had black hair and pale skin - not a great combo in a surf-obsessed city like Sydney but a perfect fit for the group they hung with. I was into quite a few post-punk / new wave bands at the time but I cant say I saw a lot of the alternative crowd at gigs - even imports like the Ramones and the Clash seemed to have an audience composed mostly of 'normals' with the odd weekend punk (mohawks didnt fare too well in job interviews). I didnt think much of it when that group started to dwindle in the 90s - life moves on etc - but its interesting to see that goth survived while so much of the transitory fashion from the last 4 decades disappeared. Thanks for the vid.
Your eyes are very pretty 😍😍
I respect it..I just don't like it but I think it would be fun to have a buddy that's pastel goth. I'm emo and as an emo lots of people don't respect me.. that doesn't meen I shouldent respect other fashion or goth/emo styles but I can't force myself to like the styles
I am new to the goth stuff and I like pastel goth it's so pretty and my dad would get mad well less mad more sad that I would lose the color and truthfully I would to so when I saw pastel goth I got really happy as it's easy and I can keep the cute light color I like!