Although the lore does fit. It doesn’t really fit the tone of the fights. Still a great video. For example: -Mohg’s theme makes you feel like you’re going against a sinister god who wants you to know that you are honored to be it’s noble sacrifice. Pontiff’s makes you feel like you are going against a holy saint hiding it’s atrocious crimes behind their divine robes. -Messmer’s theme is for a man who was abandoned by his mother but still attached to her, not being able to let her go. Nameless king too was abandoned by his parent but he took it in gladly, even when his name is erased from history, he still has that kick in him, which is why his theme is so upbeat -Bayle is for an evil ahh dragon. Midir is a sad ahh dragon But if you know how to have fun, this vid is still hype though 🙏 🙏
@ Mohg and Pontiff are both worshipped saints who pray to a lord who doesnt care for them (very far fetched) Messmer and the Nameless King are both sons of a worshipped lord who abandoned them. Bayle and Midir, yeah they arent similar at all
There are a few problems with the application of these osts in Ds3: _Mohg's theme is a music centered around the question of the unholy priest who is connected to deity, but Pontiff is a priest who tricked a deity and now holds the power as one. _Messmer follows his mother and uses his real nature embued with hatred towards himself and possibly rancor to her too, the Nameless King just felt Gwyn was wrong and was banished to ally with the dragons. _Midir is a holy dragon considered the protector of a fallen city much like a deity full of their sins, while Bayle was the ultimate terror who eventually brought end to the reign of dragons by directly assaulting Placidussax.
Elden ring soundtrack is more detailed for the atmosphere that is played with. You can hear the sadness of the situation at mohgs theme. Even back then everybody thought this was ment for miquella bot actually for mohg himself. Tricked, forced to obey through feelings and manipulated
I don’t think Messmer works with Nameless king, his OST already works so well that I’m not sure what else could go with it. Maybe Divine Beast Dancing Lion, only because they have the same storm theme but I’m not sure
I think Pontiff should have used Rellanas instead of Mohgs, even though Mohgs fits his character better. Also Nameless has such a weird OST it's hard to find anywhere else.
@ really? Dancer is a really slow and methodical fight, so I thought that Metyr would fit it better maybe he even Midra. Rellana is that constant building up which is what Pontiff encapsulates as a fight. He goes higher and higher on craziness.
@@waltuh11121 the themes in question: AHHHH AHHHH AHHHH AHHHH AHHHH AH AH AH AH AAAAAAAAHHHHHH *random ass brass solo that completely drowns out all other instruments and vocals*
Elden ring soundtrack has much more complex structure and variety , Ds 3 is simple and derivative ( also all the osts has similar tone ) Bloodborne also simple but it is just the best especially for higher highs
Fit or not doesn’t matter, I enjoy ds3 ost at the time, and now Elden ring is here, and everyone here is either pitch fork each other on why ds3 ost is that and this, and if you prefer this you haven’t play this, its getting real old for ds3 fans, and I would like to say this before the ds3 fan melt me in these comment, alright guys ds3 is good for it’s time, I’ll admit it was banger, might’ve turn up the volume and blast it in my ears, poor eardrum lol. But you guys need NEED to chill out, it’s not like da3 ost help cure canner or sth, it’s a really simple ost and you guys love it we all love it, but you guys ever heard of other games? Or play other game? Yeah try Elden ring guys, you’ll love it, just listen to them for like 5 or 8 years like ds3 than come back, I promise your opinion on ost will change for the better,
@@Thewilderery-q6e what do you mean i was just saying i like midirs ost more, i didnt agree with the other guy, lots of my favorites come from elden ring
Finally DS3 gets some good OSTs In all seriousness this just goes to show how each OST is custom tailored to a boss, switching them around makes each soundtrack feel out of place and a poor representation of the bossfight, this goes for all games irrespective of which OST is the best. Edit: after a quick rewatch Midir with Bayle's theme actually goes pretty hard.
At first I didn't like ER's soundtrack because I thought it was too loud. From a thematic perspective, it makes sense that an epic journey like ER would inevitably feature epic and loud music, but it was, in my opinion, a jarring departure from traditional FromSoft OSTs that are much more emotional than action themes. Sulyvahn/Mohg and Midir/Bayle are good examples of this because both phase 2 parts of the ER tracks lose a lot of the definition phase 1 had and basically turns into loud action music. In contrast, Sulyvahn and Midir have comparatively mellow themes that focus more on the emotions of the characters in the fight rather than the scale of them. This isn't to say ER has a bad soundtrack, I just think it sounds a little bit bland at times (especially in the base game OST). Overall, I believe that once the composers got a feel for the characters and story they composed much better music, as evident in the DLC.
@@upsideproductions2 Yes, the opening Midir charge is really well designed attack. Luckily they fixed it in phase 2 so he always does it twice in a row. Good time for toilet break mid fight 🤣🤣🤣 No wonder midir has "mid" in his name.
@@Nrzpokrter midirs laser doesn’t screw up the camera if your locked on, unlike bayle. And midir doesn’t just spam the charge unlike how bayle spams the fire breath.
CUUUUURSE YOU MIDIR!!!!!
Midir "!!!! What did I do?"
No.
Both Pontiff and Mogh are pure evil villains, and both grow wings in their second phase, great choice!
Somehow it’s better now than vanilla DS3. Joking, they don’t fit in DS3, but still cool idea. ER OST especially SOTE is unmatched ngl.
DS3 main theme for Godwyn boss fight
YES
I wouldn't use a mid song for a important fight like that
@@Thewilderery-q6e Lmao, DS3 Main Menu Theme is mid? Bait used to be believable
Now DS3 ost on Elden Ring
Would be a downgrade
@@Thewilderery-q6e upgrade*
Dancer Helmet combined with Sirris of the Sunless Realms Set...
hmm looks slick, I should play again and try that get-up out as well some time
messmer's theme actually sound very well for nameless king lol
Actual chills.
Although the lore does fit. It doesn’t really fit the tone of the fights. Still a great video.
For example:
-Mohg’s theme makes you feel like you’re going against a sinister god who wants you to know that you are honored to be it’s noble sacrifice. Pontiff’s makes you feel like you are going against a holy saint hiding it’s atrocious crimes behind their divine robes.
-Messmer’s theme is for a man who was abandoned by his mother but still attached to her, not being able to let her go. Nameless king too was abandoned by his parent but he took it in gladly, even when his name is erased from history, he still has that kick in him, which is why his theme is so upbeat
-Bayle is for an evil ahh dragon. Midir is a sad ahh dragon
But if you know how to have fun, this vid is still hype though 🙏 🙏
Complete nonsense. You would absolutely never draw those conclusions if you havent literally read the lore.
@ Mohg and Pontiff are both worshipped saints who pray to a lord who doesnt care for them (very far fetched)
Messmer and the Nameless King are both sons of a worshipped lord who abandoned them.
Bayle and Midir, yeah they arent similar at all
Nice Midir laser dodge. I always just run towards him and stay near his left leg. If I don't do that, I end up panic rolling...
There are a few problems with the application of these osts in Ds3:
_Mohg's theme is a music centered around the question of the unholy priest who is connected to deity, but Pontiff is a priest who tricked a deity and now holds the power as one.
_Messmer follows his mother and uses his real nature embued with hatred towards himself and possibly rancor to her too, the Nameless King just felt Gwyn was wrong and was banished to ally with the dragons.
_Midir is a holy dragon considered the protector of a fallen city much like a deity full of their sins, while Bayle was the ultimate terror who eventually brought end to the reign of dragons by directly assaulting Placidussax.
🤓
Dark Souls 3 OST is still unmatchable
I would disagree, SOTE alone clears both Bloodborne & Dark Souls 3.
I respectfully disagree.
I disrespectfully disagree
@@HeyTarnishedyou tripping bro
@@waltuh11121 Why?
0:35 i just realised that 'promised consort' move from promised consort radahn looks almost identical to this except for last 2 moves or sth lol
@@AbdoHany9 yeah I made a video about that few months ago you can find it on the channel
Its better in er
@@Thewilderery-q6e tru but stil interesting to notice
@@purehollow checked it man, nice job !
Elden ring soundtrack is more detailed for the atmosphere that is played with. You can hear the sadness of the situation at mohgs theme. Even back then everybody thought this was ment for miquella bot actually for mohg himself. Tricked, forced to obey through feelings and manipulated
Yeah so better
I don’t think Messmer works with Nameless king, his OST already works so well that I’m not sure what else could go with it. Maybe Divine Beast Dancing Lion, only because they have the same storm theme but I’m not sure
I think Pontiff should have used Rellanas instead of Mohgs, even though Mohgs fits his character better. Also Nameless has such a weird OST it's hard to find anywhere else.
@@thecenturion1634 I personally thought dancer would be more fitting for rellana
@ really? Dancer is a really slow and methodical fight, so I thought that Metyr would fit it better maybe he even Midra. Rellana is that constant building up which is what Pontiff encapsulates as a fight. He goes higher and higher on craziness.
Though Mohg’s theme is thematically appropriate for Pontiff Sulyvahn’s title, his actions might have Midra’s theme a better fit
What sword and ashes of war u use in first boss
This is so much better its not even close
Cool, but I think the original suits them much better, cause it feels like their music is a part of them that shouldnt be seperated
What?? Really???
@@88heisenberg88 what I meant is that the music that ds3 bosses normally have is better than the Elden Ring ones
Nah these are clearly better
So much better then the ones in ds3
Absolutely not, to this day DS3 has the best OST of the series. Elden Ring has a great OST, but few of the themes are as great as in DS3
@@waltuh11121 the themes in question: AHHHH AHHHH AHHHH AHHHH AHHHH AH AH AH AH AAAAAAAAHHHHHH *random ass brass solo that completely drowns out all other instruments and vocals*
@@waltuh11121midra's theme mogs all other soulsborne ost I'm afraid
nah ds3 way better
Heresy
Elden ring soundtrack has much more complex structure and variety , Ds 3 is simple and derivative ( also all the osts has similar tone ) Bloodborne also simple but it is just the best especially for higher highs
Also one good thing for dark souls 3 it set its teir from the base game , while in ER and BB they went to another level only after the dlc
So wayyy better
@@Thewilderery-q6e wayy worse*
Fit or not doesn’t matter, I enjoy ds3 ost at the time, and now Elden ring is here, and everyone here is either pitch fork each other on why ds3 ost is that and this, and if you prefer this you haven’t play this, its getting real old for ds3 fans, and I would like to say this before the ds3 fan melt me in these comment, alright guys ds3 is good for it’s time, I’ll admit it was banger, might’ve turn up the volume and blast it in my ears, poor eardrum lol. But you guys need NEED to chill out, it’s not like da3 ost help cure canner or sth, it’s a really simple ost and you guys love it we all love it, but you guys ever heard of other games? Or play other game? Yeah try Elden ring guys, you’ll love it, just listen to them for like 5 or 8 years like ds3 than come back, I promise your opinion on ost will change for the better,
Probably not.
unpopular opinion but i like midirs ost more than bayles, i only say that bc another youtuber did a poll and midirs ost lost to bayles
Yell both need seriously need help
@@Thewilderery-q6e what do you mean i was just saying i like midirs ost more, i didnt agree with the other guy, lots of my favorites come from elden ring
The only thing that very slightly fitting here is mohg/pontiff.
Probably cuz everything is such a massive step up then what was there before
@Thewilderery-q6e more like a downgrade, especially bayle one
Why not pick rellana’s ost for pontiff?
Why would you pick Rellanas?
@@Nrzpokrtermostly because their weapons are similar. I can see why Mohg was chosen though
Finally DS3 gets some good OSTs
In all seriousness this just goes to show how each OST is custom tailored to a boss, switching them around makes each soundtrack feel out of place and a poor representation of the bossfight, this goes for all games irrespective of which OST is the best.
Edit: after a quick rewatch Midir with Bayle's theme actually goes pretty hard.
Agree way better then the trash that was there before
@@Thewilderery-q6e ds3 ost>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Elden trash ost
Huge upgrade like what where they cooking with ds3?
@@Thewilderery-q6e huge downgrade*
At first I didn't like ER's soundtrack because I thought it was too loud. From a thematic perspective, it makes sense that an epic journey like ER would inevitably feature epic and loud music, but it was, in my opinion, a jarring departure from traditional FromSoft OSTs that are much more emotional than action themes. Sulyvahn/Mohg and Midir/Bayle are good examples of this because both phase 2 parts of the ER tracks lose a lot of the definition phase 1 had and basically turns into loud action music. In contrast, Sulyvahn and Midir have comparatively mellow themes that focus more on the emotions of the characters in the fight rather than the scale of them.
This isn't to say ER has a bad soundtrack, I just think it sounds a little bit bland at times (especially in the base game OST). Overall, I believe that once the composers got a feel for the characters and story they composed much better music, as evident in the DLC.
Aka just downgrading the music.
Bro is a professional ER hater
@ and I’m proud to be one
@@upsideproductions2 I respect the dedication
The highest me here
@@Thewilderery-q6e ?
Idk how midir ost is considered better than bayle. Just listening to them side by side and bayle sounds so much better its unreal.
@@Reez22154 so much worse*
@@upsideproductions2Just because Bayle is much better boss foght does not mean you have to cope and lie to yourself that Midir's music is better.
@@Nrzpokrter midir at least doesn’t have jank fire fire breath physics. Unlike your bayle the mid.
@@upsideproductions2 Yes, the opening Midir charge is really well designed attack. Luckily they fixed it in phase 2 so he always does it twice in a row. Good time for toilet break mid fight 🤣🤣🤣
No wonder midir has "mid" in his name.
@@Nrzpokrter midirs laser doesn’t screw up the camera if your locked on, unlike bayle. And midir doesn’t just spam the charge unlike how bayle spams the fire breath.
ds3 songs still better but good choices for the themes
The f u on?
Nah
@Thewilderery-q6e yes
@@Thewilderery-q6e yah