More often than not it comes down to money. Usually they don't want to give you a raise for the position because they found someone they can underpay. Other than that it's because you're "invaluable" in your usual position, meaning you've either taken on enough work that it would take 2 or more people to replace you or you're too good at your job and replacing you would be too much of a hassle.
@@jjohnsengraciesmom it happened to a coworker the company merge with another one and they were moving all accounting to that office whiout notice. They wanted him to train his replacement 😂he said " No..and since you guys failed to notify me about this in proper time, I resigned". Because of that, he quit right in the spot. Lets say the place was a mess for almost 2 months. They learned their lesson after that.
Bingo. Years ago I asked Exec. manager what my promotional opportunities were to be supervisor. I was told that I was too valuable in the field. So I said that in order to be promoted I have to be useless, correct? Exec. manager looked at me, got embarrassed, and wouldn’t answer me.
They just know certain phrases they use in specific situations. If you point out that the phrase makes no sense, they dont know what to answer, because they never really talk to you in the first place. They lie.
I actually loved that! LOL. Yeah - at my job currently, they literally will prevent you from moving departments because you are too valuable, they dont want to interview for your replacement, etc.
If the new person is so qualified, they shouldn't NEED to be trained by the person who has been actually doing the job, presumably without extra pay, for the last nine months!
I love that so much. You're essentially forcing them to admit if they're being honest or not by using their logic against them. "Well, you already pointed out I'm not qualified for that position. _How would I be able to train someone who's expected to do everything I'm apparently unqualified for, then?"_
I cannot believe people sign up to do this crap at work. Like if you're not giving me the full hourly wage for another employee don't ask me to do their work on top of my own.
@@puffball4484People absolutely do not sign up to do this. Companies just do it anyways, because there’s a clause somewhere in the job offer that said they can give you other tasks when the need arises. The employees can just suck it up or move jobs, which also comes with its own problems.
@@YonlopAnd yeap in most job contracts definition of enployee responsibilities are as vague and general as possible. The worst case scenario, quite generally paramount in small companies, when you should in your boss mind do everything from morning coffee to guarding valuable items, its worthy to poke into job description in job orientation sites and either ask for a rise for additional responsibilities or F off. Most of jobs is very strictly codified and having quite precise set of responsibilities. Tho, you can imagine how frustrated those people become when met with such attitude. In some cases even quite genuinely. Particularly true for small businesses. Tho n that case I push for a status of co-owner buying shares or simply legally in case of simplified company registration. If I'm not employee but a part of the business, this changes everything obviously. Tho, people often go coward or even angry on such notion. Obvious sign you are here not to work in friendly collective but get your bum exploited.
Exactly, that’s why I suggest warning your “trainee” first. Not even badmouthing the company, just flatout explain what happened “So I’ve been the cover for 9 months, but now they want to get rid of me and hire someone new, but they still want me to train them, on a position I was told I am not qualified to have.”
Ok. So how do these businesses stay alive? Making bad business decisions like that should crush the company. Not enough people are willing to resign. I guess we can’t all be “Veronicahs.” 🤷♀️
"So lemme get this straight: I've been doing a manager's job (and doing it well, in your own words) for nine months without the pay but instead of just paying me what I'm worth you hired someone 'more qualified' and you want me to teach them to do the job for which I am 'less qualified' than they are." "Yes." The depressing part is, as others have confirmed, this is NOT parody or satire. This exact conversation has in fact happened to countless people over the last 50 years or so. corporations were a mistake.
Corporations were a mistake legally and morally. They have allowed for artificially inflated company values, restrictions on career growths, and have pushed too many kids into useless, expensive, degree paths
It's not just a corporate thing, I live in the middle of nowhere basically and have delt with this at multiple small local businesses I've been formerly employed at. It is shitty bosses and directors above you taking 100% advantage. In my cases it was usually until one of their "friends" with no experience in the field whatsoever could come in and take the position and run them into the ground. Karma. She's a bitch.
@@viscountalpha Yeah people get what they tolerate. The moment you begin to feel comfortable in your job you can expect the abuse to begin. If I could go back in time and give myself some advice (other than the usual 'buy bitcoin' stuff) I would tell me to strive to be self-employed no matter what.
The moment when you realize "professionalism" is just a social construct made by people who are smart enough to abuse their power without looking like abusers: th-cam.com/video/4gZdE5dimMg/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Mex8-_uwe5j19Zrr
Companies don't seem to understand loyalty is a two way street. If you don't reward employees for the work they give you, then they will go else where.
Companies have been living by the motto that everyone is replaceable only to find out in the past couple of years that isn’t anywhere near the truth and are now experiencing disengaged employees and high rates of turnover that is if people even apply since there’s been a staff shortage ever since the pandemic so they’re offering starting wage way above minimum just as incentive for people to even want to work there
@@dougkabler3032Also Company: " Oh ... Our CEO just left with a billion dollars flying off in a parachute.. let's get a CEO that's worse than our last one! "
My nephew was replaced by his bosses nephew. 2 weeks after they fired my nephew. they called him and asked him if he would train his replacement as the department was now struggling. He politely declined.
I’ve done that before too way back when….. we were still using Rolodex’s and I was the only one out of five people that could spell according to the proper Rolodex way……. it used to matter that you had to be a good speller and precise English grammar and a large vocabulary. Not now.
Nepotism at its finest. I swear that alone is part of the issue i some career avenues & why some folks don’t get promotions because they bring their kids of siblings on instead to get those higher ranking positions in the company.
Ugh, one of the worst jobs I had was as a receptionist at a trucking company. I had the misfortune of having a car that had intermittent issues, so I was late two days. A bit later on the second day, a lady comes in and says she's there for the receptionist job. Uh, we only had the one, as it was a small office, so that meant it was my job she was interviewing for.. And worst yet, my key card stopped working before I was finished for the day and I got locked out of the office after using the restroom! I was not surprised to find out my temp job had been terminated. The thing that really gets me about that is that they didn't even have the balls to tell me to my face???? Wtf. No, they just had to make everything all awkward. 🙄
I had a temp job that terminated me after a year (they have a habit of doing this, apparently). The agency didn't want to discuss when I was getting my stuff back, so my response was, more or less, "Unless you'd like me in there tomorrow morning at 6:30 AM removing my things, you'll have a date and time scheduled by end of day." They did, in fact, have a date and time scheduled by end of day. Amusingly, the guy who "replaced" me lasted a month, I'd already moved on. Nope, sorry, not interested, yes I know your interfaces aren't stable. Not my problem any longer.
@@LEXXIUS Always. I know the job remained open for the next year, minimum, as I regularly got calls on it from a variety of agencies (there are only about six people in the area qualified to do that job). My answer was always, "I know that's for [John Q. Public] at [XYZ Corporation], so I'm specifically not interested in that job. Best of luck filling it, though." "Can we ask why?" "You may not." "Everybody's telling us that so it would really help us out if you'd let us know why..." "I don't feel comfortable speaking on the matter. Thank you for the call." We all knew him and hated him.
@@xenaguy01 It's just strategy. If you quit on the spot then you're job-hunting for a non-managerial position or at best applying for a managerial position with dubious credentials. However if you force their hand and make them promote you then you'll have an advantage looking for other jobs at that level. Plus it's extremely difficulty for current employers to give a bad reference when they're obviously still employing you. If you quit then they're free to slag you off as much as they like. Alternately sometimes the moment another employer calls your boss with the intention of poaching you your boss suddenly decides maybe it's time to start treating you better. Especially if you might end up working directly for the competition.
Yeah but if you do that you don’t get unemployment benefits, the best course of action is stand your ground and refuse to train them, if they fire you for it, you get unemployment benefits if not, you either go back to the previous position or luckily they can promote you although unlikely
I adore the occasional reality of...the new manager quits. Because, it's not the "right fit" for the new person. After, an excellent employee quits. Now, the business is in worse shape, than ever.
You would be amazed at how poorly a business can be run and still turn a profit. I'll never understand what kind of voodoo they use which is why I guess I'm not a business owner.
A company i worked at for 5 years in a position i absolutely loved and was very good at did this same thing....only they brought in another manager and said that i would need to train this person to be my backup for when i was on vacation or if anything happened.....then i find out that my position is going away and this person that i just trained, because i was young and it was my first corp job, was now going to be the manager of HR......they knew me and the other ladies in the same job position in all the other locations would quit and thats why they lied to us about why these people needed training......so that was a huge lesson learned
Solution is simpler than most people think. I guarantee topic will never be brought back again. -Yo, train this new employee -Yo, pay me extra for this
Absolutely, “hey we need you to train them as backup” is these days ALWAYS code for “we’re getting rid of you but can’t be bothered to educate ourselves or the new hire so you do it”
It’s always so cute when the “higher ups” think they’re being sneaky but they’ve be so disconnected from reality their whole careers that anything they do is obvious af if you know how to look at the bigger picture
An older Coworker from my old job was temporarily promoted to a "management-like" position after the old one unexpectedly died from an accident. This went on for almost a year and when asked if he could have that position permanently, he was told that they'll likely remove that position (and they also mentioned it wasn't in their budget). A month later they hired someone else, like a family member of the CEO, and they got paid nearly 25% extra. Coworker resigned on the spot.
I got fired 4 months into this customer service job because (too good, made manager look incompetent, lazy and jealous)... I'm not kidding, they fired me for no reason, cooked up some corporate bs like (you didn't say HI to the customer in a soft voice), when in reality the manager, the head of management and HR are best friends...... Never again
That's so disrespectful that they asked you to do that. That bascially happened to a former supervisor of mine. It was a Supervisor from another dept...the senior manager asked her to train her so that when she (my supervisor) goes on vacation the other supervisor can hold on for her. She did it....after a few months my Supervisor was pushed out of the company, the "acting" became our new supervisor and after a couple years got promoted to be manager of the deparrment. I won't lie my former supervisor being pushed out of her role made me happy because she was a horrible supervisor because of the way she treated the staff. I was so happy to see her go lol
@@Inbraneinthememsanethe reason is exploitation, it's just that the replacement will have lesser pay, if you see that as a win for everyone you are the problem
There’s a video where she sends janet her resignation and janet wants 2 weeks and she says she would rather sell herself on some well know prostitute street I can’t think of than work there.
I once had a job where I knew my boss actively sabotaged an interview I had for another position in the company because they didn't want to lose me in my current role at the time. Glad I left.
I saw a promotion open up and applied for the role. My manager told me to not bother. After all, it was easy to find someone with my credentials for that position, but almost impossible to find someone as experienced as me who was willing to work for my current pay. He was shocked that I quit 2 weeks later.
This is why the whole "work hard and you'll get promoted!" corporate crap is untrue. If you're good at your job, they'll never promote you because they don't want you leaving that position.
It’s called use whomever when convenient. All companies should either have a program that pays ***qualified (as in responsible) employees for their immaculate training. Or pay employees that train new employees and based on the longevity of the person that they have trained, they receive a bonus.
Yeah they read the highway sign that says "morality" and pull a hard u-turn. It's bizarre watching managers go out of their way to do the wrong thing even when it hurts their bottom line.
Will the real Veronika please stand up? I hope she is getting credit for all these videos. Im glad this creator tagged her at least. Most of them haven't.
Carry a white binder... wrote EVRRYTHING down... conversations, topics, people and dates.... they will pffer you a severance package or unemployment automatically 😂😂😂
If you work unceasingly at production and generate revenue for your company with constant high quality work the management know they cannot replace you and you will never be promoted out of your production job. When you are too old to find another job if you quit, say goodbye to raises as well.
Legitimately have trained a half dozen superiors. They get given a job as my supervisor without any qualifications, and I have just enough time to bring them up to snuff before some A-hole eight paygrades above both of us messes up and blames it on someone lower on the ladder. Place was a damn mess of politicking and backstabbing. Only reason my team ended up mostly untouched was because we were too unimportant to care about and only kept the place running. When I left that company, I had more experience under my belt than every supervising manager on the site combined.
Place I used to work was REALLY good at this: 1) Put employee in crosshairs 2) Have employee fill in for immediate superior while i.s. is away from office for a couple of days or a week. 3) Upon i.s. return, initiate situation (demotion or disciplinary action) against crosshaired employee that causes employee to resign (NOT be fired) within a few days. I saw it happen three times. The third time to me. I heard of it happening at least twice after I left.
This is what happened to a former coworker of mine, and the one that got hired in his place recently passed me up for promotion. These videos are very relatable and constantly remind me that I'm not alone
To hell with that! Whether a manager snidely (by way of polite gestures)or bluntly communicates whatever to you, they have no right to do so. Categorizing him or her as a narcissist, really shouldn’t be anyone’s focus. As real steps should be taken against such behavior. No real steps are taken, which is why so many companies exercise the same unethical and unlawful behavior.
Yep. I found my replacement. And good luck to them. They’ll never know when they’re on the chopping block. They’ll make you work your arse off then let you go the day you leave for the ONLY vacation you ever took. F that. No more loyalty from me.
The 'external hire' is the nephew/niece/son/daughter/family friend/favor that the manager above yours needs to slot into that position. Its always someone connected to a person above that unduely gets a semi-comfy position.
@@hungryowl1559 that's if you manage to have another one lined up. Where I'm at and in my field it can sometimes be a long process and a safety net is always welcome
Been there, done that. Worked hard to make it to a supervisor only to find out it's not about how hard you work but who's azz you kiss and how much you're willing to brown nose. Your work ethic doesn't matter anymore tbh.
The worst part is that this doesn't even make sense financially. They'll just be paying the new hire the money they would've been giving you, and then if they don't work out or if you quit they have to waste more time and money on traing TWO new people.
I had this moment at a job last year and it was actually so cathartic to just go “Nah. I won’t be doing that. Good luck though. Here’s my 2 weeks notice.”
Had something like this happen a few years ago. Didn’t even get an interview for the position and was told they hired outside the company and asked me to help train the guy. Even though I worked my ass off knowing I was up for the position and I even injured myself in the process and kept coming to work and making the injury worse. Lost it on my manager and told her how ridiculous it all was. The guy got fired from the position 2 months later and I was offered it instead (after an interview even though I was the only option…). I still work here and now make more but it was a slap in the face to not only be proven right but also that they gave it to me AFTER I proved them wrong.
Unfortunately this is how it is. Instead of rewarding you for doing a great job, they use you to train others. If you don’t go along with it, you are labeled as not being a “team player”. I had a new Supervisor who knew I knew more than them and was told to “work with” some new employees. At first I thought it was because of my 30+ years of experience and knowledge. Then I realized I was being used because the new supervisor wasn’t able to train anyone because they didn’t have the knowledge I had, and they expected me to do their job as well as my own. I was nearing retirement, so I put in my paperwork and soon retired. I saw the writing on the wall. But you can bet that right up until my last day, he squeezed every drop out of me to make his own job easier for him. I didn’t realize just how much stress I had been under until I retired. The weight of that job lifted and I’ve never been happier!
Exactly what happened to me, 9 months as acting lead, then they promoted someone else to the role who hadnt been doing any related work, only because they were in India and it was cheaper to promote them than the person who deserved the role.
Had my boss promoted externally over me and got asked to train her. Only thing I told her was to not let the team punk her. I’ve been on FMLA for a broken feet a few weeks after she started. Team’s telling me things are going down the drain rn.
**Amateur tip lol Quit because the grass is definitely greener & you will be employed again, and likely in a better position lol from experience. Assuming you are not living paycheck to paycheck, but even then it could work out depending on your pay schedule.
@@kowhaifan1249 lol they’re definitely gonna tell unemployment all of the rules you broke that lead to being fired to fight against having to pay you, especially in “at will” states.
Completely HAPPENED to me. I was asked to "take more responsibility" while being a "temporary" worker thru an agency, which I stepped up and did, but when the job as my boss's assistant was posted, I was told I could only apply if NO internal candidate was found. They even made me filter the resumes for the position. (😉 I know what you're thinking) When a suitable candidate wasn't found, they allowed my application. However, before I could interview, I was told they "found" an internal candidate and that I'd be training her to do the job I wasn't going to get. Turns out they forced her to end maternity leave, accomodated her to have her child brought to work so she could breastfeed, etc. I trained her because I still needed the paycheck and the agency found me another position in the office. But-- guess who didn't take notes and kept expecting me to come do her job?? I told my new supervisor who shut that down quick
Very sadly, this is so ridiculously spot-on! I don't know how many times I, and other people I know, have had to do the very same thing. Eventually, I refused and was forced to either quit or do as I was told. I still remember how great it felt for me to quit, even though it cost me almost losing everything I own because I couldn't find a job soon after. They knew it was an employer's market, and I was too rash in resigning, but this is exactly how it happened.
Despite all the speculation, one of the biggest reasons why this is done is because an outside hire poses little or no threat to existing middle management. It would take an external hire quite a long time to develop the organizational knowledge that makes them competitive for advancement. If I promote from within, I am in effect certifying someone as a viable threat to my own job - they have advanced org knowledge. People don’t seem to realize how much the job security of hiring managers plays into their decisions. Certainly it is often far more important than any putative benefit to the organization.
This happened 3 times (probably more, but I'm kinda new) at the job I work in. Thing is, all three of those people were overqualified for the supervisor position and they got along with everyone just fine. Management didn't like that. They hired inexperienced people from the outside (rather than promoting workers that's been there for 20+ years) and of course these new supervisors went on a full-on power trip. The people that were "promised" the position retired, but one of them came back. Nobody messes with him, though.
They did this to my brother. They somehow managed to not only upset him, but the entire store. And had the gall to ask him to train the person who got the position over him. Like, if he's qualified to train em, why not just hire him for the promotion? 😑
In my previous job, in one department the supervisor left and the assistant took "temporary" the role of the supervisor and look everything by himself. The thing is, that department was new and were only two people, now that the ex supervisor left it was only the assistant to manage the whole department. He worked for 6 months with no extra help, did everything amazing while studying in college. He was getting a degree related to the job he was, really he was the perfect candidate to be the new supervisor. After the 6 months, the told him that another assistant, in another department, that has nothing to do with will be the new supervisor and they wanted him to trained her. He left that same day, and the managers were upset because he wasn't a "team player".
I got tricked like this once, when I was younger. They wanted me to quit, as there was Manager's friend who wanted my job. Valuable lesson, just sabotage the company if that happens, until they have to fire you.
If the employee resigns, the company doesn't have to give severance pay. The employee only gets it if he/she is fired. By manipulating the employee to resign, the company can keep the money. It would be better for the employee to simply look for another job using company time and resources while accepting salary for a poor work quality until he/she is fired.
That’s a good point, if I’m not qualified to do the work how can I train someone else
I thought so, too.
You're qualified to do the job, you just have other qualities that make you suck at it compared to someone else 😜
You just gotta be a team player and blow them too 😂😂😂
I've seen this before it's real
More often than not it comes down to money. Usually they don't want to give you a raise for the position because they found someone they can underpay. Other than that it's because you're "invaluable" in your usual position, meaning you've either taken on enough work that it would take 2 or more people to replace you or you're too good at your job and replacing you would be too much of a hassle.
after working in corporate for three decades, yes, absolutely it works this way. no sarcasm, no notes.
Yes I remember hearing about this sort of thing, seeing it in more than one movie, reading abput this in Ask A Manager blog, seeing this in real life.
@@jjohnsengraciesmom it happened to a coworker the company merge with another one and they were moving all accounting to that office whiout notice. They wanted him to train his replacement 😂he said " No..and since you guys failed to notify me about this in proper time, I resigned". Because of that, he quit right in the spot. Lets say the place was a mess for almost 2 months. They learned their lesson after that.
This has been happening to me over the course of the past 6 months. I am very unhappy in my current workplace.
@@danielnoctum3253then do something about it obviously
This happened to me a few days ago
Bingo. Years ago I asked Exec. manager what my promotional opportunities were to be supervisor. I was told that I was too valuable in the field. So I said that in order to be promoted I have to be useless, correct? Exec. manager looked at me, got embarrassed, and wouldn’t answer me.
They just know certain phrases they use in specific situations. If you point out that the phrase makes no sense, they dont know what to answer, because they never really talk to you in the first place. They lie.
I actually loved that! LOL. Yeah - at my job currently, they literally will prevent you from moving departments because you are too valuable, they dont want to interview for your replacement, etc.
@@nulldemokratiezwei7773No but genuinely, that isn’t just a phrase, that is how it works. It’s called failing upwards.
I love how these dirt bags never answer back knowing how worthless they are
The Dilbert Principle at work.
Epic Mic drop: if I am not qualified for the position, I am not qualified to train someone for that position
Yeah, it was an excellent point... I will remember that line!
Especially when she’s more qualified than myself for the role
If the new person is so qualified, they shouldn't NEED to be trained by the person who has been actually doing the job, presumably without extra pay, for the last nine months!
Yes!
I love that so much. You're essentially forcing them to admit if they're being honest or not by using their logic against them.
"Well, you already pointed out I'm not qualified for that position. _How would I be able to train someone who's expected to do everything I'm apparently unqualified for, then?"_
Funny how the external hire doesn't need nine months of underpaid vetting to confirm they're good for the job.
I cannot believe people sign up to do this crap at work. Like if you're not giving me the full hourly wage for another employee don't ask me to do their work on top of my own.
@@puffball4484People absolutely do not sign up to do this. Companies just do it anyways, because there’s a clause somewhere in the job offer that said they can give you other tasks when the need arises.
The employees can just suck it up or move jobs, which also comes with its own problems.
@@YonlopYeap, having 8 lines of employment in 5 years definitely makes RH ask a lot of questions.
@@YonlopAnd yeap in most job contracts definition of enployee responsibilities are as vague and general as possible. The worst case scenario, quite generally paramount in small companies, when you should in your boss mind do everything from morning coffee to guarding valuable items, its worthy to poke into job description in job orientation sites and either ask for a rise for additional responsibilities or F off. Most of jobs is very strictly codified and having quite precise set of responsibilities. Tho, you can imagine how frustrated those people become when met with such attitude. In some cases even quite genuinely. Particularly true for small businesses. Tho n that case I push for a status of co-owner buying shares or simply legally in case of simplified company registration. If I'm not employee but a part of the business, this changes everything obviously. Tho, people often go coward or even angry on such notion. Obvious sign you are here not to work in friendly collective but get your bum exploited.
My version of “two weeks notice” is: after two weeks, they will likely notice I’m not there.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Mine is, "For the next two weeks, you gonna notice I ain't here."
🤔Make sure you put those PTO days in before your 2 weeks🤫😂
@@dvig3261 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Ultimately they don't care if you resign. They will just put the person in untrained and everyone else has to deal with it.
Exactly, that’s why I suggest warning your “trainee” first. Not even badmouthing the company, just flatout explain what happened “So I’ve been the cover for 9 months, but now they want to get rid of me and hire someone new, but they still want me to train them, on a position I was told I am not qualified to have.”
Ok. So how do these businesses stay alive? Making bad business decisions like that should crush the company. Not enough people are willing to resign. I guess we can’t all be “Veronicahs.” 🤷♀️
@@annaburns2865they hire off- shore employees for less.
Make it make sense
@@annaburns2865 Government bailouts. Then rich people complain about poor people getting "welfare"...
“She has more experience than you… can you train her?”
Like how can you give experience to someone who has more experience? 😂
I trained someone like that they quit after the first month their salary hit.
They gave me the promotion but asked me to take less money, I quit.
"So lemme get this straight: I've been doing a manager's job (and doing it well, in your own words) for nine months without the pay but instead of just paying me what I'm worth you hired someone 'more qualified' and you want me to teach them to do the job for which I am 'less qualified' than they are."
"Yes."
The depressing part is, as others have confirmed, this is NOT parody or satire. This exact conversation has in fact happened to countless people over the last 50 years or so.
corporations were a mistake.
Corporations were a mistake legally and morally.
They have allowed for artificially inflated company values, restrictions on career growths, and have pushed too many kids into useless, expensive, degree paths
It's not just a corporate thing, I live in the middle of nowhere basically and have delt with this at multiple small local businesses I've been formerly employed at. It is shitty bosses and directors above you taking 100% advantage. In my cases it was usually until one of their "friends" with no experience in the field whatsoever could come in and take the position and run them into the ground. Karma. She's a bitch.
After 3 months, i would have said give me a pay bump or I walk.
@@viscountalpha Yeah people get what they tolerate. The moment you begin to feel comfortable in your job you can expect the abuse to begin. If I could go back in time and give myself some advice (other than the usual 'buy bitcoin' stuff) I would tell me to strive to be self-employed no matter what.
The moment when you realize "professionalism" is just a social construct made by people who are smart enough to abuse their power without looking like abusers:
th-cam.com/video/4gZdE5dimMg/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Mex8-_uwe5j19Zrr
Companies don't seem to understand loyalty is a two way street. If you don't reward employees for the work they give you, then they will go else where.
Companies know this. They simply do not care.
@@dougkabler3032yep. They'd rather just find someone they can micromanage and manipulate.
Companies have been living by the motto that everyone is replaceable only to find out in the past couple of years that isn’t anywhere near the truth and are now experiencing disengaged employees and high rates of turnover that is if people even apply since there’s been a staff shortage ever since the pandemic so they’re offering starting wage way above minimum just as incentive for people to even want to work there
@@dougkabler3032Also Company: " Oh ... Our CEO just left with a billion dollars flying off in a parachute.. let's get a CEO that's worse than our last one! "
At my company, results matter but people matter more. They care about their employees.
A Friend or Relative of the Boss was hired....
That's exactly what happened in my case. 🤔🤨
I was thinking the same thing! Nepotism!😉
Or mistress 😂😂😂😂
@@meekmeads
Oh Yeah, let’s not forget that one!😉
Good one!😂
Happened to me, covid happened. I left, now in a easier position that pays more! Also found out they replaced me with two people lol😂
"No one wants to work anymore" ❌
"No one is being paid or promoted internally for their work anymore, so they're leaving to keep their self respect" ✅
"If I'm not qualified for the position then I'm not qualified to teach someone who's more qualified than me." -Veronica🔥
My nephew was replaced by his bosses nephew. 2 weeks after they fired my nephew. they called him and asked him if he would train his replacement as the department was now struggling. He politely declined.
Replying with the same level of loyalty is the right thing to do!
I wouldn't have been polite...
I’ve done that before too way back when….. we were still using Rolodex’s and I was the only one out of five people that could spell according to the proper Rolodex way……. it used to matter that you had to be a good speller and precise English grammar and a large vocabulary.
Not now.
Why to be polite with these rude people
Nepotism at its finest. I swear that alone is part of the issue i some career avenues & why some folks don’t get promotions because they bring their kids of siblings on instead to get those higher ranking positions in the company.
Ugh, one of the worst jobs I had was as a receptionist at a trucking company.
I had the misfortune of having a car that had intermittent issues, so I was late two days.
A bit later on the second day, a lady comes in and says she's there for the receptionist job.
Uh, we only had the one, as it was a small office, so that meant it was my job she was interviewing for.. And worst yet, my key card stopped working before I was finished for the day and I got locked out of the office after using the restroom!
I was not surprised to find out my temp job had been terminated. The thing that really gets me about that is that they didn't even have the balls to tell me to my face???? Wtf. No, they just had to make everything all awkward. 🙄
I had a temp job that terminated me after a year (they have a habit of doing this, apparently). The agency didn't want to discuss when I was getting my stuff back, so my response was, more or less, "Unless you'd like me in there tomorrow morning at 6:30 AM removing my things, you'll have a date and time scheduled by end of day." They did, in fact, have a date and time scheduled by end of day.
Amusingly, the guy who "replaced" me lasted a month, I'd already moved on. Nope, sorry, not interested, yes I know your interfaces aren't stable. Not my problem any longer.
@@BronzeDragon133 Nice! Reply with the same loyalty they have shown you!
@@LEXXIUS Always. I know the job remained open for the next year, minimum, as I regularly got calls on it from a variety of agencies (there are only about six people in the area qualified to do that job).
My answer was always, "I know that's for [John Q. Public] at [XYZ Corporation], so I'm specifically not interested in that job. Best of luck filling it, though."
"Can we ask why?"
"You may not."
"Everybody's telling us that so it would really help us out if you'd let us know why..."
"I don't feel comfortable speaking on the matter. Thank you for the call."
We all knew him and hated him.
_"Hey, Janet. Please accept this resignation effective immediately."_
The only proper response.
Alternately you could roll with "either I get the managerial position and train my replacement or I'm gone, you decide".
@@BigChungus-zg6zw
Not me. I wouldn't want to continue working for that toxic manager.
@@xenaguy01 It's just strategy. If you quit on the spot then you're job-hunting for a non-managerial position or at best applying for a managerial position with dubious credentials.
However if you force their hand and make them promote you then you'll have an advantage looking for other jobs at that level.
Plus it's extremely difficulty for current employers to give a bad reference when they're obviously still employing you. If you quit then they're free to slag you off as much as they like.
Alternately sometimes the moment another employer calls your boss with the intention of poaching you your boss suddenly decides maybe it's time to start treating you better. Especially if you might end up working directly for the competition.
"Oh hey Janet, I've got some good news too!"
Yeah but if you do that you don’t get unemployment benefits, the best course of action is stand your ground and refuse to train them, if they fire you for it, you get unemployment benefits if not, you either go back to the previous position or luckily they can promote you although unlikely
I adore the occasional reality of...the new manager quits. Because, it's not the "right fit" for the new person.
After, an excellent employee quits.
Now, the business is in worse shape, than ever.
Schadenfraude.
But they won’t admit that they are in worse shape cuz that would mean admitting they made a bad hiring decision. It’s all so infuriating
You would be amazed at how poorly a business can be run and still turn a profit. I'll never understand what kind of voodoo they use which is why I guess I'm not a business owner.
Part of me is waiting for this.
A company i worked at for 5 years in a position i absolutely loved and was very good at did this same thing....only they brought in another manager and said that i would need to train this person to be my backup for when i was on vacation or if anything happened.....then i find out that my position is going away and this person that i just trained, because i was young and it was my first corp job, was now going to be the manager of HR......they knew me and the other ladies in the same job position in all the other locations would quit and thats why they lied to us about why these people needed training......so that was a huge lesson learned
Solution is simpler than most people think. I guarantee topic will never be brought back again.
-Yo, train this new employee
-Yo, pay me extra for this
Absolutely, “hey we need you to train them as backup” is these days ALWAYS code for “we’re getting rid of you but can’t be bothered to educate ourselves or the new hire so you do it”
@@lukas8708won’t happen. The employee is always on the losing end if a company makes demands. It’s up to them to accept it or leave.
Wow. Those mother f******!
It’s always so cute when the “higher ups” think they’re being sneaky but they’ve be so disconnected from reality their whole careers that anything they do is obvious af if you know how to look at the bigger picture
An older Coworker from my old job was temporarily promoted to a "management-like" position after the old one unexpectedly died from an accident. This went on for almost a year and when asked if he could have that position permanently, he was told that they'll likely remove that position (and they also mentioned it wasn't in their budget). A month later they hired someone else, like a family member of the CEO, and they got paid nearly 25% extra.
Coworker resigned on the spot.
I got fired 4 months into this customer service job because (too good, made manager look incompetent, lazy and jealous)...
I'm not kidding, they fired me for no reason, cooked up some corporate bs like (you didn't say HI to the customer in a soft voice), when in reality the manager, the head of management and HR are best friends......
Never again
Edit: considering that all of them were walking land whåles that required 2 doors to be open, I'm not surprised about their laziness.
People can be so petty🙄
" ... just has a little more experience ..."
Not in the position in question she doesn't.
0:59 “If I’m not qualified for the position, then I’m not qualified to teach someone who’s more qualified than me.”
Checkmate.
I was once asked to train my own replacement, no thank you
That's so disrespectful that they asked you to do that. That bascially happened to a former supervisor of mine. It was a Supervisor from another dept...the senior manager asked her to train her so that when she (my supervisor) goes on vacation the other supervisor can hold on for her. She did it....after a few months my Supervisor was pushed out of the company, the "acting" became our new supervisor and after a couple years got promoted to be manager of the deparrment. I won't lie my former supervisor being pushed out of her role made me happy because she was a horrible supervisor because of the way she treated the staff. I was so happy to see her go lol
We had to train our off-shore replacements in order to get our severance. Miserable!
@@crazycatlady6396 i don't see how that is legal as severance is something you get when you get fired.
There is a good reason someone’s replacing you
No one likes whiny losers
@@Inbraneinthememsanethe reason is exploitation, it's just that the replacement will have lesser pay, if you see that as a win for everyone you are the problem
I hope we get to see the aftermath when the boss sees the resignation letter
We did see the aftermath. She is giving a smug smile, because she wanted her to quit.
@@Warriormon87that’s the reality of the corporate America.
The smirk at the end is what happens. Resignations keep employers from having to pay out UI
There’s a video where she sends janet her resignation and janet wants 2 weeks and she says she would rather sell herself on some well know prostitute street I can’t think of than work there.
@@FeedMeLeaksyou can get UC if you resign for hostile work environment.
I once had a job where I knew my boss actively sabotaged an interview I had for another position in the company because they didn't want to lose me in my current role at the time.
Glad I left.
I saw a promotion open up and applied for the role. My manager told me to not bother. After all, it was easy to find someone with my credentials for that position, but almost impossible to find someone as experienced as me who was willing to work for my current pay. He was shocked that I quit 2 weeks later.
This is why the whole "work hard and you'll get promoted!" corporate crap is untrue. If you're good at your job, they'll never promote you because they don't want you leaving that position.
I worked for myself since age 29 for just this reason.
Most corporations are run by idiots.
So accurate! More work load, more responsibility, but no pay.
They’re always going in a different direction
It’s called use whomever when convenient. All companies should either have a program that pays ***qualified (as in responsible) employees for their immaculate training. Or pay employees that train new employees and based on the longevity of the person that they have trained, they receive a bonus.
Yeah they read the highway sign that says "morality" and pull a hard u-turn.
It's bizarre watching managers go out of their way to do the wrong thing even when it hurts their bottom line.
Will the real Veronika please stand up? I hope she is getting credit for all these videos.
Im glad this creator tagged her at least. Most of them haven't.
i think there is some footage of her as an actual person I spotted the other day.
th-cam.com/video/VEi8wAs3-5Q/w-d-xo.htmlsi=gMDklqr2x8KTCMXk there she is
Same! I keep trying to find her but I can’t!
🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉💯😩🙌🏾💯💯💯💯💯
@@SweetheartbabezI want to as well!!
Carry a white binder... wrote EVRRYTHING down... conversations, topics, people and dates.... they will pffer you a severance package or unemployment automatically 😂😂😂
That’s such a good point.
“If I’m not qualified for the role then I’m not qualified to teach the person who’s more experienced than me.”
Bish, how you gonna tell me you hired someone-who has more experience…but I gotta train them?
If you work unceasingly at production and generate revenue for your company with constant high quality work the management know they cannot replace you and you will never be promoted out of your production job. When you are too old to find another job if you quit, say goodbye to raises as well.
Legitimately have trained a half dozen superiors. They get given a job as my supervisor without any qualifications, and I have just enough time to bring them up to snuff before some A-hole eight paygrades above both of us messes up and blames it on someone lower on the ladder. Place was a damn mess of politicking and backstabbing. Only reason my team ended up mostly untouched was because we were too unimportant to care about and only kept the place running. When I left that company, I had more experience under my belt than every supervising manager on the site combined.
Don't resign immediately, that's what they want you to do. Find a new job and leave without notice.
Place I used to work was REALLY good at this:
1) Put employee in crosshairs
2) Have employee fill in for immediate superior while i.s. is away from office for a couple of days or a week.
3) Upon i.s. return, initiate situation (demotion or disciplinary action) against crosshaired employee that causes employee to resign (NOT be fired) within a few days.
I saw it happen three times. The third time to me. I heard of it happening at least twice after I left.
This is what happened to a former coworker of mine, and the one that got hired in his place recently passed me up for promotion. These videos are very relatable and constantly remind me that I'm not alone
Shit, if she quits they don't have to pay unemployment.
Sigh. Yeah that’s it
My manager did it by unhinged random verbal assaults that I feared could turn into physical violence at any moment. Ever heard of narcissistic rage?
To hell with that! Whether a manager snidely (by way of polite gestures)or bluntly communicates whatever to you, they have no right to do so. Categorizing him or her as a narcissist, really shouldn’t be anyone’s focus. As real steps should be taken against such behavior. No real steps are taken, which is why so many companies exercise the same unethical and unlawful behavior.
Most likely he had small balls and unable to win a woman's affection without the money (sad) . Lots of frustration inside that lame SOB
That's called creating a hostile and volatile work environment. Definitely the time to involve H.R. and EEOC.
Yup. I walked out. Guess who had to multi task.
You mean abusive rage? NPD is not a synonym for abusive.
This happened to me. I let them know that I wasn’t going to train my manager and that they should hire an existing employee for the manager position.
best clip in the history of the world. i think you just saved a lot of lives from a dreary demeaning existence
Yep. I found my replacement. And good luck to them. They’ll never know when they’re on the chopping block. They’ll make you work your arse off then let you go the day you leave for the ONLY vacation you ever took. F that. No more loyalty from me.
The 'external hire' is the nephew/niece/son/daughter/family friend/favor that the manager above yours needs to slot into that position. Its always someone connected to a person above that unduely gets a semi-comfy position.
I don't really care about promotion, just give me more money.
Don't resign, just be a pain in the butt
They will fire you, trust me, I know.
This is what I did, and they cooked up some bs just to give a reason to remove me physically from the place.
@@dramir5953 at least you get unemployment and a little time to search elsewhere
@@alexdeadeye6905this. Be an inconvenience, they likely do this to get rid of you without having to say they fired someone anyway
You don't need unemployment pay if you already have another job lined up
@@hungryowl1559 that's if you manage to have another one lined up. Where I'm at and in my field it can sometimes be a long process and a safety net is always welcome
Didn't even check to make sure she was notified like a human being then acting like that wasn't her responsibility to do so.
Sorry to say I've seen this play out.🤨 What is worse is the audacity to ask you to train the person who got the job. Jokes 😂
Got asked this at my day job. I just chuckled at my coach and she said I’m serious. I told her I am too.
Been there, done that. Worked hard to make it to a supervisor only to find out it's not about how hard you work but who's azz you kiss and how much you're willing to brown nose. Your work ethic doesn't matter anymore tbh.
Amen.
No lies detected.
A brilliant opportunity was overlooked here. She should have agreed to train the new person, and then go on to train her WRONG.
This happened to me many years back. I didn’t resign just sat back while the chaos followed.
Tell me you subtly sabotaged the new manager as well. Because I have.
@@BronzeDragon133elaborate
Forgot to put the cover sheet on the TPS reports.
The worst part is that this doesn't even make sense financially. They'll just be paying the new hire the money they would've been giving you, and then if they don't work out or if you quit they have to waste more time and money on traing TWO new people.
They aren't trying to make sense, they are just trying to fk their employees
It's more about the high they get from controlling others
I have had literally this exact situation happen to me. They tried to write me up, so I walked out. So much happier now.
You have this situation spot on, on how they do it in the corporate situations.😒
I had this moment at a job last year and it was actually so cathartic to just go “Nah. I won’t be doing that. Good luck though. Here’s my 2 weeks notice.”
I love seeing people place down boundaries
Had something like this happen a few years ago.
Didn’t even get an interview for the position and was told they hired outside the company and asked me to help train the guy.
Even though I worked my ass off knowing I was up for the position and I even injured myself in the process and kept coming to work and making the injury worse.
Lost it on my manager and told her how ridiculous it all was.
The guy got fired from the position 2 months later and I was offered it instead (after an interview even though I was the only option…). I still work here and now make more but it was a slap in the face to not only be proven right but also that they gave it to me AFTER I proved them wrong.
"But we're like a family!"
These videos are so amazing!
Should be watched by every employee.
The company trying to nicely sugarcoat throwing you under the bus.
Unfortunately this is how it is. Instead of rewarding you for doing a great job, they use you to train others. If you don’t go along with it, you are labeled as not being a “team player”.
I had a new Supervisor who knew I knew more than them and was told to “work with” some new employees. At first I thought it was because of my 30+ years of experience and knowledge. Then I realized I was being used because the new supervisor wasn’t able to train anyone because they didn’t have the knowledge I had, and they expected me to do their job as well as my own.
I was nearing retirement, so I put in my paperwork and soon retired. I saw the writing on the wall. But you can bet that right up until my last day, he squeezed every drop out of me to make his own job easier for him.
I didn’t realize just how much stress I had been under until I retired. The weight of that job lifted and I’ve never been happier!
Exactly what happened to me, 9 months as acting lead, then they promoted someone else to the role who hadnt been doing any related work, only because they were in India and it was cheaper to promote them than the person who deserved the role.
True! Been there, done that!
Had my boss promoted externally over me and got asked to train her. Only thing I told her was to not let the team punk her. I’ve been on FMLA for a broken feet a few weeks after she started. Team’s telling me things are going down the drain rn.
I've had similar happen to me. I hung around and made sure I did as little as possible and collect my pay.
If only hr, management and all those bosses knew psychology, they would keep and motivate most of their employees
Be there done that why I no longer deal with corporations
“It’s nothing personal against you” it kinda feels like it is, ngl
“If i am not qualified for the position, then i am not qualified for teaching someone who is more qualified than me”
**Amateur tip lol Quit because the grass is definitely greener & you will be employed again, and likely in a better position lol from experience. Assuming you are not living paycheck to paycheck, but even then it could work out depending on your pay schedule.
**pro tip dont quit because you wont get unemployment pay, instead be a annoyance while looking for a new job till they fire you.
@@kowhaifan1249 lol they’re definitely gonna tell unemployment all of the rules you broke that lead to being fired to fight against having to pay you, especially in “at will” states.
Sooo relatable, I resigned too 😂.
Wouldn't have resigned, though. Keep saying no, make them fire you, collect unemployment. Win.
Completely HAPPENED to me. I was asked to "take more responsibility" while being a "temporary" worker thru an agency, which I stepped up and did, but when the job as my boss's assistant was posted, I was told I could only apply if NO internal candidate was found. They even made me filter the resumes for the position. (😉 I know what you're thinking) When a suitable candidate wasn't found, they allowed my application. However, before I could interview, I was told they "found" an internal candidate and that I'd be training her to do the job I wasn't going to get. Turns out they forced her to end maternity leave, accomodated her to have her child brought to work so she could breastfeed, etc. I trained her because I still needed the paycheck and the agency found me another position in the office. But-- guess who didn't take notes and kept expecting me to come do her job?? I told my new supervisor who shut that down quick
I really felt the well-justified rage in "I hope that makes sense," lol!
Where was this when I needed it ! 😩🎤
I didn't even give him a resignation,just quit.
Unironically that's the true American way! -McDonald's- "apple" pie, modified cricket (aka baseball) and underpaid overworking 🦅🇺🇸
Very sadly, this is so ridiculously spot-on! I don't know how many times I, and other people I know, have had to do the very same thing. Eventually, I refused and was forced to either quit or do as I was told. I still remember how great it felt for me to quit, even though it cost me almost losing everything I own because I couldn't find a job soon after. They knew it was an employer's market, and I was too rash in resigning, but this is exactly how it happened.
Great answer to counter the “qualified” argument 👏👏👏
Despite all the speculation, one of the biggest reasons why this is done is because an outside hire poses little or no threat to existing middle management. It would take an external hire quite a long time to develop the organizational knowledge that makes them competitive for advancement. If I promote from within, I am in effect certifying someone as a viable threat to my own job - they have advanced org knowledge. People don’t seem to realize how much the job security of hiring managers plays into their decisions. Certainly it is often far more important than any putative benefit to the organization.
If their more experienced than me. Then they don’t need me to train them.
This happened 3 times (probably more, but I'm kinda new) at the job I work in. Thing is, all three of those people were overqualified for the supervisor position and they got along with everyone just fine. Management didn't like that. They hired inexperienced people from the outside (rather than promoting workers that's been there for 20+ years) and of course these new supervisors went on a full-on power trip. The people that were "promised" the position retired, but one of them came back. Nobody messes with him, though.
“We need you to train her”
“She has a little more experience”
lol after promising her the promotion and then hiring a new person while asking her to train the new manager.
Managers only do this when they want you to leave
Resign when you get a confirmed start date.
Corporate office jobs! Absolutely right!
Let em fire me, if they don't pay me severance I will own their company networth because I guarantee they didn't pay anyone else severance either 😂😂😂
They did this to my brother. They somehow managed to not only upset him, but the entire store. And had the gall to ask him to train the person who got the position over him. Like, if he's qualified to train em, why not just hire him for the promotion? 😑
In my previous job, in one department the supervisor left and the assistant took "temporary" the role of the supervisor and look everything by himself. The thing is, that department was new and were only two people, now that the ex supervisor left it was only the assistant to manage the whole department. He worked for 6 months with no extra help, did everything amazing while studying in college. He was getting a degree related to the job he was, really he was the perfect candidate to be the new supervisor. After the 6 months, the told him that another assistant, in another department, that has nothing to do with will be the new supervisor and they wanted him to trained her. He left that same day, and the managers were upset because he wasn't a "team player".
That's a new low for any company... Nine months eh?!
According to the comments it’s not a new low it’s a repeated low
We want to hire them to do the job cheaper than your current salary.
I got tricked like this once, when I was younger. They wanted me to quit, as there was Manager's friend who wanted my job. Valuable lesson, just sabotage the company if that happens, until they have to fire you.
Was literally having this conversation with a man yesterday about how managers push employees to resign.
I would absolutely agree to train the new person, and then teach them everything wrong before dropping my resignation.
There are so many that have made animations from Veronica's skits 😂😂😂😂. It's fun to see these especially after seeing the actual skit
NO .. let 'them' "your FIRED" you.
POV: you are teleporting around a single room with two people having a meeting you are not involved in and they are ignoring you.
If the employee resigns, the company doesn't have to give severance pay. The employee only gets it if he/she is fired. By manipulating the employee to resign, the company can keep the money. It would be better for the employee to simply look for another job using company time and resources while accepting salary for a poor work quality until he/she is fired.