Hello Vee Kenobi, Great video! Please keep in mind that our support team only works Monday-Friday from 8 AM - 5 PM. I believe our current response time is within 24 hours and we should be able to get the speaker and pogo issue resolved within a very quick timeline.
Hello! Thank you for reaching out. I sent an email a while back but never got a response. Maybe my email got directed to your spam folder, that happens at the company I work for sometimes so it’s very possibly lol. I’ll be sure to send a new email and see what we can do. Thank you again for reaching out. Love your sabers.
Myself, I have only 1 Sabertrio (Arclyte- Dark Edition) from back when they only sold base lit hilts. I'm a tinkerer and took it apart (voiding the warranty, but it still works, so I'm ok with it) and had a couple gripes with the build quality of the internals. The chassis supports the electronics fine, but they used very thin (4 stranded) wires to go to the led module and had some shoddy soldering, which I repaired. The battery holder was actually broken, but some plastics adhesive worked quite well to fix this also. Overall, I'm fine with the lightsaber, but, I'm not likely to buy from them again. I can buy comparable priced hilts from other vendors that have designs I like, which have more sound options. I haven't purchased from IW. Their designs just don't fit for what I'm looking for these days. These are only from my viewpoint, so I hope others have different or better standards than mine.
I hope people realize that Imperial Workshop is just a reseller of LGT sabers, like the two you showed. FYI, you can adjust the clash sensitivity on Xeno boards by editing the config file or use the bluetooth app if you have a Xeno3. If you want to retract the blade quicker you can enable motion controls. I have mine set to twist to retract and it's instant.
I have the arc from Imperial Workshop as well, and I find that I have no issues when it comes to the sound. When you talk about the deactivation and how long it takes, using gesture controls is instantaneous. One last thing, I have to correct you on your soundfont for Obi-Wan Kenobi, that's actually Anakin Skywalker. The soundfont for Obi-Wan Kenobi's is six up right past Count Dooku
i had same issue with one of my lgt sabers like your exposed crystal saber first i think the blade is going bad when it flashes like that its either not touching all the pins all the way or bad data line in the blade and the speaker is going bad on the saber too i bought a new 24 mm speaker and solder the bad off and put the new one on some have quick connects for speakers and vire sabers has speaker replacements for lgt cores and for CFX sabers in the fonts folders in each font their is a font config click that file and change the color profile and blade profile to -1 and it will save whatever color and blade profile you chose but gotta do that to each font you have but super easy
I’ve always been a fan of Luke’s style of ignition, it’s more of a SQWAH instead of the more standard BSHH. I really like the Codex of Light font on the IW saber that more mechanical ignition is satisfying to me. I’m probably not going to put more fonts on my Vega, I’m just not experienced with messing around in the files, I just don’t wanna break anything in there, I’ll be fine with the stock fonts it’s my first and probably my only saber I’ll get 😂. EDIT: question, does the ARC and the VEGA have the same (or at least similar) fonts?
I've been watching all of your videos on the Vega and awesome job on it! I wanted to use the Vega for spinning and the clash function does seem very sensitive but it might give an interesting effect during spins if it happens. I also believe you can mess with the fonts/settings and turn off clash if its really a big deal. I haven't seen all of your videos but do you have any spinning tutorials or just spinning in general?
How do they differ in brightness and fullness? I am a big fan of the Arc from IW, especially the Hatred soundfont, but worry about the brightness. Is Sabertrio much brighter (especially in red/orange). Basically, is it worth it to get a cheaper hilt and soundfont I really like, or pay more for (allegedly) much higher brightness? Edit: I think your car analogy helps. Because I would buy a WRX but also if I had the cash I’d just buy a Porsche.
They are not just brighter but they are higher quality in every way. The hilts feel much more bullet proof. The smooth swing is more sensitive. They are brighter. Louder. More options. Lol everything.
@@veekenobi UPDATE: I ordered the Zayn from Padawan Outpost. It’s freaking LOUD and very bright. My next saber will be more expensive from SaberTrio, probably a few years from now. Love this thing so far
@@veekenobibut what exactly is the factor that causes the difference in brightness and loudness? Issit just the fact that one is cfx and the other is xenopixel? Edit: I suspect your IW had heavy grade blades as that’s what they ship with while your Saber trio is mid grade? I know this factors into brightness. And some pummels are known to be better sound amplifiers than others so maybe brightness and loudness were not affected by their build quality
Do you have a leather wrapping on your Aeryn? I have a Senza with black emitter shrouds instead o silver and it gives it more of a sith look. If u would prefer that I just used a simple spray paint. Im also curious do u have a proffie or CFX?
With the cfx S3 you should be able to save color when you keep going past blade profiles to color profiles and should save while in deep sleep. There’s a lot you didn’t go over as far as features with the cfx soundboard!! Xenopixel offers limited customization IF you have a customizable one, there are a lot you can’t add fonts or customize! To add, Xenopixel will not ever be as customizable as CFX!! What you can’t customize on the fly, if you do it on the sd card(full manual read recommended first!) or use the real-time editor(R.I.C.E. Program) you can customize blade behaviors, flicker and how much, ignition styles/timing/characteristics as well as retractions, ALL sensitivity parameters, change to a 32 color spectrum and blade styles and even create custom colors through color values using rgbw parameters!! You need to get both the kenobi and ep1 Obi fonts from Kyberphonic my man lol!! Also check out the Smugglers Outpost 22mm elite speakers to upgrade!
So I have the most current CFX update on both my Sabertrios and neither one of them save color once you go into deep sleep, I don’t think that’s a feature yet. And yeah your right there is ALOT I didn’t mention but the video was already getting pretty long so I didn’t wana make it like an hour long video hahah.
I saved up my money and I’m just stuck between the arc saber and the Vega saber, I love the color on the Vega but the arc not so much, but I love the exposed kyber crystal, which one would you recommend?
I happen to have both. I have to say arc has a great look and is def more impressive visually, but that exposed kyber crystal makes a two hand grip uncomfortable if that is a factor for you. Also at the moment the arc v2 is on sale, but the vega v3 with Neopixel Xenopixel V3 is only $170, so you have some good options right now if you care about your budget
A lot of your issues are things that can be fixed with programming. Gesture controls are available, and those are an "instant off" function. Clash effect sensitivity can be lowered or raised (raised if you don't want accidental clash). As far as light saber companies go, I love Imperial Workshop, and their response time is 24-48 hours, not certain how long after you messaged them you uploaded this video. The issue I was having with mine has been rectified, and they sent me a new part to swap out on the saber and everything is functioning properly. It feels like part of your information the two were a little misinformed. You did have a lot of good information, however, so thank you for that. P.S. That sound font that reminds you of Kylo Ren, entitled "Hatred" is a Darth Malgus sound font.
Have to disagree on Imperial Workshop. They only offer a 14-day warranty and there are a lot of other shops offering most of the same sabers with a year long warranty. For the average user, it's worth going to another shop for a better warranty even if it's a little more expensive. Until Imperial Workshop changes their warranty policy, I can't recommend them to the average person looking to get a lightsaber.
Honestly I think the quality of Imperials sabers for the price is 12/10, I have a Vega saber and I have a Sabertrio CrossGaurd, phenomenal quality and stuff but every time I pick up my Vega I’m like “dang this one is super good too!, and it was basically less than 200 dollars!” Now, it’s not as masterfully crafted but still good, I will say though, Imperial has IMO the ONE of the best blade qualities while also being 20$ cheaper than other companies
Bro not to be that guy but you got your imperial workshop used off facebook marketplace. Are you really surprised it has problems? No hate tho W vid man.
Hello Vee, after dealing with defective sabers from Imperial Workshop. I would highly recommend going with a different manufacturer. I have factual proof they said they never got an email from you. And the other hard evidence is about 9 videos with unresolved issues from fonts to battery issues. I reported it to them immediately and told me I basically don’t know what i am doing. When i told them i program Proffie sabers left and right. If you want to see the results of my findings go to my TH-cam page on the playlist Imperial Workshop Defective sabers part 1-9. Hit me up if you need help Jedi. Us Jedi’s must get rid of toxic sixth companies. They also told me in an email that 20000 sabers went out and that .1% are defective. That means that 20 of us got screwed when they supposedly QC’D these according to Brett. Gotta put people in place if they intend to screw over people and not think any repercussions will happen. I told them zero percent of problems should be the case if they were qc’d. Send me an email and I will make you privvy to the conversation as they stated they never heard about you or even know you. Got your back Jedi. Tell others to stick with Sabertrio. Better Company. Way better customer service that recognize if a problem exists, they take care of it. -best, Jedi M.
I would like Sabertrio but every time I end up actually having enough to actually buy one of their sabers, the ones I want are always out of stock. After having found Imperial workshop a few weeks back. I realized for the same price, that I would pay for a single Sabertrio, I could get multiple hilts from Imperial workshop. I do not speak for everyone, but myself. Price, Shipping time, and quality. Also, I have had previous sabers from Crimson Dawn. Both Crimson Dawn, AND Imperial Workshop have commented to me, on a random fan made subreddit. I have never seen that from any other company. Going out of their way to actually engage by an actual human to engage with other members of a fandom. THAT is customer service.
Thats a matter of an opinion. Fact is, and from many thousands of proud owns of Sabertrio is far superior as Proffie sabers, CFX sabers , stunt sabers (for heavy duels)are offered with way way better tech support that actually respects their customers by treating them great. They actually listen and, most importantly fixed any issues with your Sabertrio hilts. And have a better warranty. Might be more expensive, yet far far superior. ‘This is the way’.
@@veekenobi they are definitely cheap and full of problems. Not worth the headaches. Plus Sabertrio does not discriminate, nor disrespect you. Unfortunately Imperialism is outdated and he needs to go to school and learn etiquette. Hit me up. Oh, yeah. Another deciding factor is Imperial Workshop is heavy and not balanced. Parts are cheap and break. I don’t have that issue with Sabertrio, as my second set of hilts are on the way. For battle or heavy duels Sabertrio is the right choice. ‘This is the way’
@@ambitionfashionmagazine7820 well no shit it’s gonna be lower quality, imperial workshop is like a third of the price of saber trio. You cannot beat a neopixel with xenopixel v2 board for $170
@@realtommybuns True if you would like off balanced gear that you could incur injuries with. I have been an or a Martial Arts instructor that specializes in weaponry from my military days and up until current times. I realize these are for enjoyment, however, Art Sabers, and a slew others are more lightweight, properly balanced hilts you can duel heavily with. These are more for show or light cosplay only. They are also NOT user friendly on a MacBook. They are designated for, - and targets the PC world. Favoritism on their end. The quality of Sabertrio is far superior. As well as their impeccable customer service whom will take care of their customers. If you say anything, back it up with facts and experience. The 'no shit' attitude is uncalled for. Some things you should keep to yourself. And find a positive way to plea your case. I can provide you other links to better choices for sabers that are around the same price. Reach out to Occisor Villicus on Etsy. Or call him up. He can see what he can do for you. I was disappointed in Imperial Workshop, however maybe in time they will make lighter, more balanced weapons with better sound boards and more sleek hilts. I still use my Retribution Hilts to warm up and then move on to my other sabers . A weapon is a weapon. The sharpest weapon is your mind. Peace out. This is the way.
Hello Vee Kenobi,
Great video! Please keep in mind that our support team only works Monday-Friday from 8 AM - 5 PM. I believe our current response time is within 24 hours and we should be able to get the speaker and pogo issue resolved within a very quick timeline.
Hello! Thank you for reaching out. I sent an email a while back but never got a response. Maybe my email got directed to your spam folder, that happens at the company I work for sometimes so it’s very possibly lol. I’ll be sure to send a new email and see what we can do. Thank you again for reaching out. Love your sabers.
@@veekenobidid the problem get resolved?
@@zeromech1450 Probably
@@veekenobi we need the answer. this is the way
I've noticed the same issue with my Revenant. They sent me a new part to swap out and it works perfectly now.
This felt very objective and thorough, couldn't have asked for a better review/comparison that doesn't sound like I'm being sold something.
thank you for the in-depth video comparison amazing!
Thank you for watching.
you can adjust sensitivity of clash in the sd card.
2:23 I loved that part
Myself, I have only 1 Sabertrio (Arclyte- Dark Edition) from back when they only sold base lit hilts. I'm a tinkerer and took it apart (voiding the warranty, but it still works, so I'm ok with it) and had a couple gripes with the build quality of the internals. The chassis supports the electronics fine, but they used very thin (4 stranded) wires to go to the led module and had some shoddy soldering, which I repaired. The battery holder was actually broken, but some plastics adhesive worked quite well to fix this also. Overall, I'm fine with the lightsaber, but, I'm not likely to buy from them again. I can buy comparable priced hilts from other vendors that have designs I like, which have more sound options.
I haven't purchased from IW. Their designs just don't fit for what I'm looking for these days.
These are only from my viewpoint, so I hope others have different or better standards than mine.
I just ordered a ark hilt I can’t wait
Hope you enjoy it.
im about to by a vega hilt i cant wait!
I hope people realize that Imperial Workshop is just a reseller of LGT sabers, like the two you showed. FYI, you can adjust the clash sensitivity on Xeno boards by editing the config file or use the bluetooth app if you have a Xeno3. If you want to retract the blade quicker you can enable motion controls. I have mine set to twist to retract and it's instant.
I have the arc from Imperial Workshop as well, and I find that I have no issues when it comes to the sound. When you talk about the deactivation and how long it takes, using gesture controls is instantaneous. One last thing, I have to correct you on your soundfont for Obi-Wan Kenobi, that's actually Anakin Skywalker. The soundfont for Obi-Wan Kenobi's is six up right past Count Dooku
All in all, great comparison video... thanks
The flashing blade is due to it not being tight and connected to the little pokey things at the bottom
goood tip thanks!
@@christopher8659 your welcome bro
@@christopher8659 IQ 1,000,000
i had same issue with one of my lgt sabers like your exposed crystal saber first i think the blade is going bad when it flashes like that its either not touching all the pins all the way or bad data line in the blade and the speaker is going bad on the saber too i bought a new 24 mm speaker and solder the bad off and put the new one on some have quick connects for speakers and vire sabers has speaker replacements for lgt cores and for CFX sabers in the fonts folders in each font their is a font config click that file and change the color profile and blade profile to -1 and it will save whatever color and blade profile you chose but gotta do that to each font you have but super easy
I’ve always been a fan of Luke’s style of ignition, it’s more of a SQWAH instead of the more standard BSHH.
I really like the Codex of Light font on the IW saber that more mechanical ignition is satisfying to me.
I’m probably not going to put more fonts on my Vega, I’m just not experienced with messing around in the files, I just don’t wanna break anything in there, I’ll be fine with the stock fonts it’s my first and probably my only saber I’ll get 😂.
EDIT: question, does the ARC and the VEGA have the same (or at least similar) fonts?
As far as I’m aware they have the same fonts. I got my arc secondhand so it might have something different but I believe it is the same.
I've been watching all of your videos on the Vega and awesome job on it! I wanted to use the Vega for spinning and the clash function does seem very sensitive but it might give an interesting effect during spins if it happens. I also believe you can mess with the fonts/settings and turn off clash if its really a big deal. I haven't seen all of your videos but do you have any spinning tutorials or just spinning in general?
Michelle C Smith tutorials will get you started👍🏾
Michelle c smith is probably the best source to learn spinning.
Update, Sabertrio does do an exposed Kyler crystal now and it is much more expensive
So to change the color on a Sabertrio, you don’t actually need to hold the buttons. Just pinch press them and it works the same.
How do they differ in brightness and fullness? I am a big fan of the Arc from IW, especially the Hatred soundfont, but worry about the brightness. Is Sabertrio much brighter (especially in red/orange).
Basically, is it worth it to get a cheaper hilt and soundfont I really like, or pay more for (allegedly) much higher brightness?
Edit: I think your car analogy helps. Because I would buy a WRX but also if I had the cash I’d just buy a Porsche.
They are not just brighter but they are higher quality in every way. The hilts feel much more bullet proof. The smooth swing is more sensitive. They are brighter. Louder. More options. Lol everything.
@@veekenobi thank you! Sabertrio really outdid itself, but I think I’ll pay less to get just what I want. Awesome video, enjoy your sabers!
@@veekenobi UPDATE: I ordered the Zayn from Padawan Outpost. It’s freaking LOUD and very bright. My next saber will be more expensive from SaberTrio, probably a few years from now. Love this thing so far
@@veekenobibut what exactly is the factor that causes the difference in brightness and loudness? Issit just the fact that one is cfx and the other is xenopixel?
Edit: I suspect your IW had heavy grade blades as that’s what they ship with while your Saber trio is mid grade? I know this factors into brightness. And some pummels are known to be better sound amplifiers than others so maybe brightness and loudness were not affected by their build quality
Do any of imperial workshop lightsabers come with an anakin skywalker sound font?
Do you have a leather wrapping on your Aeryn? I have a Senza with black emitter shrouds instead o silver and it gives it more of a sith look. If u would prefer that I just used a simple spray paint. Im also curious do u have a proffie or CFX?
With the cfx S3 you should be able to save color when you keep going past blade profiles to color profiles and should save while in deep sleep.
There’s a lot you didn’t go over as far as features with the cfx soundboard!!
Xenopixel offers limited customization IF you have a customizable one, there are a lot you can’t add fonts or customize!
To add, Xenopixel will not ever be as customizable as CFX!! What you can’t customize on the fly, if you do it on the sd card(full manual read recommended first!) or use the real-time editor(R.I.C.E. Program) you can customize blade behaviors, flicker and how much, ignition styles/timing/characteristics as well as retractions, ALL sensitivity parameters, change to a 32 color spectrum and blade styles and even create custom colors through color values using rgbw parameters!!
You need to get both the kenobi and ep1 Obi fonts from Kyberphonic my man lol!!
Also check out the Smugglers Outpost 22mm elite speakers to upgrade!
So I have the most current CFX update on both my Sabertrios and neither one of them save color once you go into deep sleep, I don’t think that’s a feature yet. And yeah your right there is ALOT I didn’t mention but the video was already getting pretty long so I didn’t wana make it like an hour long video hahah.
@@veekenobi I would watch a part 2 - this breakdown was amazing!
I saved up my money and I’m just stuck between the arc saber and the Vega saber, I love the color on the Vega but the arc not so much, but I love the exposed kyber crystal, which one would you recommend?
I happen to have both. I have to say arc has a great look and is def more impressive visually, but that exposed kyber crystal makes a two hand grip uncomfortable if that is a factor for you.
Also at the moment the arc v2 is on sale, but the vega v3 with Neopixel Xenopixel V3 is only $170, so you have some good options right now if you care about your budget
@@bdeamon1 Yeah, I’m leaning towards the Vega cuz of the v3 and it’s still the same price lol.
@@brianmango-im5tdv3 is worse
A lot of your issues are things that can be fixed with programming. Gesture controls are available, and those are an "instant off" function. Clash effect sensitivity can be lowered or raised (raised if you don't want accidental clash). As far as light saber companies go, I love Imperial Workshop, and their response time is 24-48 hours, not certain how long after you messaged them you uploaded this video. The issue I was having with mine has been rectified, and they sent me a new part to swap out on the saber and everything is functioning properly. It feels like part of your information the two were a little misinformed. You did have a lot of good information, however, so thank you for that.
P.S. That sound font that reminds you of Kylo Ren, entitled "Hatred" is a Darth Malgus sound font.
Have to disagree on Imperial Workshop. They only offer a 14-day warranty and there are a lot of other shops offering most of the same sabers with a year long warranty. For the average user, it's worth going to another shop for a better warranty even if it's a little more expensive. Until Imperial Workshop changes their warranty policy, I can't recommend them to the average person looking to get a lightsaber.
Honestly I think the quality of Imperials sabers for the price is 12/10, I have a Vega saber and I have a Sabertrio CrossGaurd, phenomenal quality and stuff but every time I pick up my Vega I’m like “dang this one is super good too!, and it was basically less than 200 dollars!” Now, it’s not as masterfully crafted but still good, I will say though, Imperial has IMO the ONE of the best blade qualities while also being 20$ cheaper than other companies
Bro not to be that guy but you got your imperial workshop used off facebook marketplace. Are you really surprised it has problems? No hate tho W vid man.
If you twist it itll turn off wayyy faster
i think impearl workshop might be slightly worse but the do have really cheap xenopixles
It’s not as good, but it’s SO much cheaper.
@@veekenobi yea
Hello Vee, after dealing with defective sabers from Imperial Workshop. I would highly recommend going with a different manufacturer. I have factual proof they said they never got an email from you. And the other hard evidence is about 9 videos with unresolved issues from fonts to battery issues. I reported it to them immediately and told me I basically don’t know what i am doing. When i told them i program Proffie sabers left and right. If you want to see the results of my findings go to my TH-cam page on the playlist Imperial Workshop Defective sabers part 1-9. Hit me up if you need help Jedi.
Us Jedi’s must get rid of toxic sixth companies. They also told me in an email that 20000 sabers went out and that .1% are defective. That means that 20 of us got screwed when they supposedly QC’D these according to Brett. Gotta put people in place if they intend to screw over people and not think any repercussions will happen. I told them zero percent of problems should be the case if they were qc’d.
Send me an email and I will make you privvy to the conversation as they stated they never heard about you or even know you. Got your back Jedi. Tell others to stick with Sabertrio. Better Company. Way better customer service that recognize if a problem exists, they take care of it.
-best,
Jedi M.
if thats the WRX what is the STI ? 🤣 artsaber?
I would like Sabertrio but every time I end up actually having enough to actually buy one of their sabers, the ones I want are always out of stock. After having found Imperial workshop a few weeks back. I realized for the same price, that I would pay for a single Sabertrio, I could get multiple hilts from Imperial workshop.
I do not speak for everyone, but myself. Price, Shipping time, and quality. Also, I have had previous sabers from Crimson Dawn.
Both Crimson Dawn, AND Imperial Workshop have commented to me, on a random fan made subreddit. I have never seen that from any other company. Going out of their way to actually engage by an actual human to engage with other members of a fandom. THAT is customer service.
Imperial workshop is superior
Thats a matter of an opinion. Fact is, and from many thousands of proud owns of Sabertrio is far superior as Proffie sabers, CFX sabers , stunt sabers (for heavy duels)are offered with way way better tech support that actually respects their customers by treating them great. They actually listen and, most importantly fixed any issues with your Sabertrio hilts. And have a better warranty. Might be more expensive, yet far far superior. ‘This is the way’.
Sabertrio quality is FAR superior. However if you want a great saber at a cheaper price then imperial workshop is the way to go.
@@veekenobi they are definitely cheap and full of problems. Not worth the headaches. Plus Sabertrio does not discriminate, nor disrespect you. Unfortunately Imperialism is outdated and he needs to go to school and learn etiquette. Hit me up. Oh, yeah. Another deciding factor is Imperial Workshop is heavy and not balanced. Parts are cheap and break. I don’t have that issue with Sabertrio, as my second set of hilts are on the way. For battle or heavy duels Sabertrio is the right choice. ‘This is the way’
@@ambitionfashionmagazine7820 well no shit it’s gonna be lower quality, imperial workshop is like a third of the price of saber trio. You cannot beat a neopixel with xenopixel v2 board for $170
@@realtommybuns True if you would like off balanced gear that you could incur injuries with. I have been an or a Martial Arts instructor that specializes in weaponry from my military days and up until current times. I realize these are for enjoyment, however, Art Sabers, and a slew others are more lightweight, properly balanced hilts you can duel heavily with. These are more for show or light cosplay only. They are also NOT user friendly on a MacBook. They are designated for, - and targets the PC world. Favoritism on their end. The quality of Sabertrio is far superior. As well as their impeccable customer service whom will take care of their customers. If you say anything, back it up with facts and experience. The 'no shit' attitude is uncalled for. Some things you should keep to yourself. And find a positive way to plea your case. I can provide you other links to better choices for sabers that are around the same price. Reach out to Occisor Villicus on Etsy. Or call him up. He can see what he can do for you. I was disappointed in Imperial Workshop, however maybe in time they will make lighter, more balanced weapons with better sound boards and more sleek hilts. I still use my Retribution Hilts to warm up and then move on to my other sabers . A weapon is a weapon. The sharpest weapon is your mind. Peace out. This is the way.