2024 Mustang Dark Horse | Everything You Need To Know, Jim Owens of Ford Explains it all on April 17
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- Ford Mustang Brand Manager Jim Owens Takes us through the styling, design and Interior on the 2024 Mustang Dark Horse. He answers all our questions and shows us the important features.
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I can appreciate the performance of this car, but since I'm getting on in years, the '64.5 -'73 Mustangs will always be my favorites. My first car was a 1965 GT Mustang I bought in 1973 for $500. I'm retired now, and my current Mustang is a 1973 Mach 1, the car I really wanted when I was 16 back in 1973 but couldn't afford. So now it's time for the new generation to make their own Mustang memories, I've made mine. And still living it!
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Amen, way to live.
I like that brother congrats you got a beautiful classic they don’t make them like that anymore
Your 1st car was a 65' GT stang? And you survived? Good on you brother. My 1st car was a 69' Cougar w/351 Windsor and I very nearly killed myself on NUMEROUS occasions! Seriously, the stories that car could tell. Of course I wish I had held onto it but realistically I'm glad I didn't cause I was an 'effing idiot when I was in my late teens and I'm sure I would have killed the car (& probably myself with it). I sold it to a friend's older brother that said he wanted to restore it. I hope he did and also hope it's still alive somewhere, maybe sitting at a red-light with that non-threatening but also slightly intimidating undertone from it's throaty rumble idle. Classic colors, maroon w/black vinyl top, black interior (non XR7). Part of me still misses it but that car deserved much better than a teenage idiot like myself. I do feel bad for the abuse I did to that car, but I'm happy it survived me and I hope it is living a peaceful but still active retirement. Goodbye kitty-cat. Miss you and hope you live many lifetimes beyond my own. 😥
@@0utpatient Oh yea, barely. Of course, got my first ticket in it, leaving high school one day, everybody in school saw me get that ticket. Another day, I had five people in it, running 110mph, and I'm 6'6"+. Didn't do much street racing, but did outrun a '65 Dodge Dart and a '65 Malibu 327 with it. Few years later, a 18 wheeler came over in my lane and totaled the car. Picked up a '67 coupe after that, I put the '65 motor in it, which led to more carnage lol.
Would love to see an in depth video on the GT Premium too 😉
Regardless of whether you like, love or hate it I have to say this was one of the best looks into what’s behind this new generation. Btw 18’ PP2 owner here, which will eventually get willed to my kids, but I’d love this sitting next to it.
Love the PP2, best stance!
@@revanevan Agreed! That rear brake caliper is harsh on my enthusiast eyes, though.
Wow amazing Mustang 🐎! Wish I could drive one some day! Love the styling! Beautiful Mustang 🐎
Very cool video.. definitely a good look at the car. The 2003-2004 Mach 1 was one of my favorites..under dog but ended up performing very well. I hope the Dark Horse is a repeat story here, given the direction every other manufacturer seems to be going (dumping V8s) the Mustang will stand alone and I am happy to see them carry on like this.
Thank you.
Just needs that ugly wing off.
Always can feel Jim's passion about the mustangs past and the future like the Dark Horse, he really gives
everything that was put into this new S650 mustang. Great interview and great video, thanks Evan.
Order is in 👍🏻 can’t wait for delivery day
I like Jim Owens answers to your questions.
I love enthusiasm for the car. I ordered mine on March 30th for MSRP fully loaded with standard seats, appearance/performance package, and 6spd Tremec. So excited!
79k for a glorified Mustang GT? Yikes dude
@19hundo c @19hundo c well mine is 69k. Do I love spending all that, no, but it's what I want and I can afford it. It has the better Tremec Manual and some other options that I really like.
Enjoy what you enjoy. I'm not getting it to be the fastest car on the street, I'm getting it because I like it.
@@seven2survive well I’m glad it sounds like you skipped out on the 5k racing stripe package then because that’s ridiculous
@19hundo c oh I agree with that. Doesn't even make sense. I didn't understand paying almost 2k for some basic recaro seats when I can save money on nice cooled and heated seats that are probably way more comfortable too lol.
@Big Bore Racing nah, I'm okay. Rather start from scratch and treat it right. A used one could be abused and then won't be covered under warranty.
I was standing behind y’all for most of this segment and it was cool to see. Nice to meet everyone and have fun at such a great event
Ok, I decided I do actually like the front end. The back end is pure Mustang. I have a 67 Mustang gt S-code with all the good high performace stuff on it. I really need a raptor with the 7.3 Godzilla. Thanks for sharing Evan. Good stuff
You're welcome Robert, thanks for watching.
Raptor with Predator > Raptor with the iron lump Godzilla
@@BC08By Ford Performance 615 hp
@@jeffschwartz5199 Ported heads, aftermarket cam with VCT delete, forged internals, won’t pass emissions, will he ~$20K.
Weak for a 445 ci engine ~600 lb engine.
Can't wait to see you throw a Dark Horse around a track! Have a Handling Package on order, 4th Mustang, 1st new Mustang, I can't wait!
Happy Birthday FORD MUSTANG… What great way to celebrate with the launch of the DARK HORSE 🎊 🎉🎊🎉
Great video. Now I need this car.
I love Jim Owens enthusiasm. Every time I see him in an interview I think of one of his appearances on Jay Leno. Jim was demonstrating the rear haunches of the Mustang he and Jay were reviewing and Jim proceeded to get down on all fours, his hands and knees, actually balls of his feet, with his rear end facing up. Putting himself in a compromised position. Jay laughed and said, “ Please don’t ever do that again” it was too funny. So now whenever I hear Jim Owens talk about Mustangs and specifically their stance and how they appear ready to pounce, I naturally picture his
Pose and Leno’s retort during their interview together. Ha!
Can’t wait to get mine
You're just full of surprises Steve, I really dig this car. Love the colour 😍
Excellent video as very informative and dark horse looks amazing
very interesting point on the back line meeting the rear deck-lid panel…looks great thank you
Those contrast of colors really looks & blends good 😃👍
Great video Evan!
I have a 2015 mustang and I had a 05 and I’m definitely getting this new one ☝️ I’m 31 I love technology and if I want the old look I’ll buy a old school
Best infomercial on the dark horse to date! Nice work.
Dark horse mustang is beautiful man, Ford did a good job.
Evan, great interview! and thanks to Jim Owens for his time, always very enthusiastic. Evan, can you talk a little bit about the blue 1969 Boss 302 at 25:38 minutes with the shaker? Thank you.
It was one of the cars up for Auction.
@@revanevan Thanks Evan, but do you know the story behind the Shaker hood?
Love the new mustang..I agree with Jim owens….I took delivery of a 2022 GT 5.0 convertable in January and I gotta say WHAT A CAR….I could not trade in my 2012 GT 5.0 so I kept it rite in my garage for the long run.. love havin 2 “stangs” in the garage..way KOOL…keep the mustang alive and well…thank you Scot.
Thank you for the video and thanks to Mr Owens. However I believe he mentioned that the car on display was not with the HP(when talking about the front of the car) but I believe it is.
Also did you get any input on if it is possible to set engine, steering, exhaust, TC, dampers all separately now in the custom settings!
Also would be golden if you can get input on what the differences are between the DH and Mach 1 when it comes to the chassi components and setup
Are the exhaust tips on the dark horse larger than the ones on the GT???
yes they are. i think 1/2 inch bigger
Yes, I believe Jim covers that in the video.
They mentioned one thing that bothers me about new cars. I understand inflation, but I also understand capitalism, trend and opportunism. Back in 1985-1989 you could get into a 5 liter mustang for as little as 11,000. So young people were able to buy these cars in droves. But now these cars have a 40k base price. Unfortunately wages haven’t matched inflation. So fewer kids can buy these cars.
Will the aftermarket be able to tune this car?
Might be able to squeeze a bit more power out of it but I think Ford already did a great job.
Great looking car!!!
Great Look at a (not so bleak )future for the Ford Mustang. I now own , my last car, but would love the Dark Horse.
Thanks Evan !!!
Its beautiful the dark horse. I have a 2017 Ford Mustang and i love it.
I just wish the iPad screen was integrated as part of the curvy shape of say the s550 dash.
Nice review. Good to see Ford keeping the internal combustion option, that's exactly what a proper leader should do. The brand currently has many interesting vehicles and ideas, the future seems promising; here in Argentina, for example, the Maverick is a big success, sales have risen more than 400%!!
The last thing mustang drivers need is Drifting mode. They have that down at most cars and coffee accidents. lol Its nice but I think they should of had an AWD hybrid like the E-ray. Or something like BMW and the X-drive thing.
I’m going to live this technology mustang to new generation and enjoy my 07 Shelby GT500.
Just curious but is that the racing stripe option for the build ? Lol
The front bumper should be styled off the Ford Fiesta mk7 ST shark mouth design that looks so aggressive.
Did he say they'd be out in early summer? That would be so awesome! When I ordered mine, they made it sound like it would probably be fall before I got it.
Why do they continue to call it a 19" Brake Package? Does the DH use the GT350/GT500 Knuckles or the Mach 1 steel knuckles?
What happened to the rumors of a 6.8 Godzilla variant for the Mustang? THAT got me interested. I want 428-class torque, not peaky power curves. Anyone?
You don't need to be looking at those large screens. You need to be watching the road.
Is there a yellow splash color?
Love the mustang but Ford should bring back 4 door performance Marauder need something else to run alongside the mustang
Yes!! I would agree and would love to see a 6.8 Godzilla as a option.
I agree. Galaxie or Fairlane comeback, why not? Imagine a new Torino Cobra!
@@fernandochaves9665 Ford needs to make it happen they have best engines with most potential problem has always been they never make allot of them or never put them in more then one model car
@@CoyoteFTW Yes, remember the sohc cammer? Never available in regular vehicles, very sad.
Still think the dash coulda been done better. Just two huge screen with no styling to the edges
Yep. Evan kinda called him out on that, a little. It’s a huge miss for me and I wish it carried on with the dual cove design dash that is so much a part of the Mustang heritage.
@@tommyyancy3902 Don't get me wrong, I have no problem with new and advanced things...just the styling seriously is non existent when it come to the 2 screens...just 2 literal rectangles......
I have a 15 gt performance pack and I will wait to see the car in person to see if I want to buy one. Maybe the dash wont be as bad in person but we shall see.
I understand Ford wants to appeal to the younger buyer. However, make the computer dash a tech option. Have a retro or classic dash package, for those who want the traditional interior look of a Mustang without the unnecessary distraction of all of this display overload. As an enthusiast, the driving experience is what is the attraction...the family lineage of appearance both inside and out. The dual Ipads stuck on the dash is like a lot of new cars coming out...has no soul.
Yeah. Using the Unreal Gaming Engine for the dash visuals is on one hand extremely cool (or lit, tight, dope, awesome, far-out, the bees-knees,...) but on the other hand is it going to crash occasionally like all gaming engines do on computers? And when that happens will the car then crash IRL? Yes sure the current Unreal Engine is supremely sophisticated and advanced and all that jazz...right? But that does not mean it will never crash. I don't know if I want ANY gaming engine in control (even if only slightly) of a multiple hundred horsepower mechanical beast that weighs 2 tons or so that I'm driving near 200-ish miles per hour (at least once or twice). It's not that I don't trust you Ford, but I've been a computer geek for too long to trust any computer or software running on it in such circumstances. Yeah I know all cars are computerized now days but come on, I can just imagine flying around a track IRL then on my track mode screen in my Darkhorse 'Stang I suddenly no-clip off the track into a bizarre out-of-bounds Carmageddon world. hmmm... actually that sound pretty cool. Bring it on FORD and your Unreal 'Stang. Let's see what it can do. Bwahahaha...
He’s more of a sales man. Evan was looking like “ tell me about performance in the 1/4 mile” can it kill a Hellcat?
We need a 6.8 Boss with supercharged options.
I want muscle. Ground shaking power that turns heads.
Hopefully Roush will get access to the PCM on these new Mustangs and provide some boosted versions.
Can you order a Dark Horse without Recaro seats and without the giant wing spoiler in the back? I would love to purchase a Dark Horse if I could get it with the regular air conditioned seats and either a ducktail spoiler or none at all.
That’s such a good looking car. It’s gonna look aggressive af coming down the road.
At 69 yrs. I still own my 1985 Mustang LX 5.0 but to keep up it has had a 550 HP 427 Windsor/Dart engine since 2010 that makes about same in torque and at a 2950 run weight with driver!
19:51 PREACH!!!
Please release laptimes!!!!
i wish i could have seen it go down the track
Brian, we'll have a video of that when we get one to the track.
Remember in ‘15 when Ford had balls and showed the ecoboost running 12s, NA GT running 11s, and blown GT running 10s? That was badass. This? Look at the graphics and drift stick! They should be embarrassed.
Is the official hp 500? Originally they were only saying at least 500.
500 at the crank…
GEN X YALL OLDSCHOOL 65 FASTBACK GEN 1 💯🐎🚗🔧💪🇺🇸👊🙌
Ford for the love of God please let the UK have options for this here in the UK I had to import stuff for both my Gt and Mach1 that if I had lived in the US could of ordered from the dealer.
Dude is a salesman that’s for sure.
See what you can figure out on the center exhaust model possible cobra
I want the dark horse 🐎
Those body lines are IDENTICAL to a Dodge Charger. IDENTICAL
Let me guess them 6 piston brembos up front wont cover the rim with brake dust like they do on my scat pack or will they? Never expected dodge to address the issue and of course they didn’t but i would hope ford has
Not everyday you see the Sith lord Revan explaining cars to you.
They need a quiet mode and a Flowmaster mode for exhaust
Nice,,when,where how much.any order mods needs more grunt
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Before You Add 2 Or 3 or 4 throttle bodies to it. Kind Of needs to make enough power to need more then one. And 500hp Not even close enough power to need a second throttle body..
Given the added cost I would imagine the engineers did some due diligence on whether it was worth it or not.
Before making comments about said topic, maybe do a little research and you'd recognize that it could be for emissions, throttle response and drivability or future plans/upgrades. Ford is not adding a more-complicated system "just because." I'm not saying you're 100% wrong, but do your research before commenting as if you have all the facts.
@S8ER The 2 throttle body intake boxes are gonna make the Exhaust. Sound different. Yeah
@@revanevan Brother I watch the entire video and none of that was in the video.. What basically it's just so it have a different exhaust sound?.
I would be willing to bet ANY supercharger company will go with a SINGLE BLADE THROTTLE BODY. Anybody? Wanna bet? Didn’t think so 😂
Is it lighter than an S550?
I wouldn’t count on it.
If I may have an opinion 🤔 , no .
For all intent and purposes, it is an S550.
nope, it's over 4k.
Its good to see that the drift brake is for track use only because we all know what mustangs do best, crowd sending lol
And here it is!!!! The dumbest comment of the day!!! Congratulations and thank you!!!😂😂
@@02autogt wtf
Kitty , alert 📢 at 2 o'clock 😍 . Front and back 😮 .
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Everything you need to know in one sentence. “It will be marked up and no longer worth it”
Chevy- No Camaro in 24. Ford- Hold my beer
Should have put a bulged hood on it
mustang is running backwards on rf caliper cover
Nice car, but how does it compare to my Ford Mustang Mach 1?
I love the 4th Gen. Coyote but but I hate the '24 Mustang Nose and Dash.
Yea I want to chime in on the mark ups that ford was supposed to remove only to see that they in Fact not only encourage mark ups but add one for being a dark horse Mach 1 Shelby ect they also removed my favorite color the dark jade green im extremely sad about this also with this being the last of its kind ....
The only thing i don't like is for me is the steering wheel.. it a bronco not a mustang
Hallett!? Mentioned an oklahoma track???
I hope they changed the key fob
I appreciate the dash and cluster and all that tech, but if Ford would have done it in analog for us boomers, I would have liked it more. But I guess they are going after a younger generation who are posting videos on social media and with this new dark horse, they can from their new Mustang.
Please give me a car that I get to drive . No traction , no ride , no brake control , no computer and 500 hp . Then , I'd be smiling 😃
Technology is good but most performace minded drivers don't need all of that extra stuff. Just give me a powerful engine and a car that can handle and I'm happy. Ford and others care to much about making every car into an I-phone or a Droid. If they remove have of the unneeded stuff they could cut the weight down and make these cars more affordable. As usual this and any offerings from Ford is out of my price range and a lot of these cars may just end up sitting on a lot.
I'd be happy with 500 hp and a base GT.
You don't have to click all the option boxes. Order a base GT, manual transmission for around $41,000.
@@DWH300 Sounds good, but what is the dealer mark up going to be?
@@tedjones-ho2zk Why are you asking me. Call a Ford dealer in your area and ask. I know my Ford dealership no longer charges markups
@@revanevan Are the base GTs retaining the MT82 or they moving to the 3160 like the DH? Seems a slightly used ‘20 w/ headers and a tune would get a person to that w/o all the nonsense this ‘new’ model introduces.
What color is your Dark Horse? It depends
I can't wait to wish I had one but realize it to expensive.
would like if it showed a dark horse on the screens and not a gt... the model on the screens should be the same as your car
That Darkhorse badge looks too Mopar for me.
Nope. I was a Mopar guy and it doesn't look like a Mopar. It's a bad ass Mustang that Unfortunately. Picture just don't pick up the body lines and aggressive styling. I'm guessing you haven't seen the actual car.
@@DWH300 I've owned Mustangs or their various Mercury counterparts since 1992, and that Darkhorse badge looks to have drawn inspiration from the Hellcat badge, to me.
I mean modern Mopar.
Very nice, but it should have had more power.
Too much orange peel, and no way do I want that dash screen with all the doodads. Every guy I've encountered with Recaros has changed them out for standard seats because they are uncomfortable. All moot points, as my local dealer is planning on marking them up a minimum (!) of 30-40k apiece. Um, no. Guess I'll stick to my GT/CS. The rich guys that wind up with these DH's will not be actual Mustang enthusiasts. At all...
This car/generation isnt intended for true enthusiasts imo.
Otherwise pretty cool car!
he said it, they just put 2 screens there and call it a dashboard, wish they would integrate that in and not just put them out like that, the car is a beast but that dashboard :/ nts and that lagg....
Look like HP to me.
Had to be unmistakable mustang, so we made it look like a Camero.
Whelp here is another "dumbest comment of the day" comment, thank you!!! 😂😂
You can’t even spell Camaro.
The dark horse is nice, but ford could of made it even more powerful in a blink of an eye. They have something else up their sleeve coming next.
I love Jim Owens but no matter how hard he tries to talk it up the design of this dashboard is a fail of EPIC proportion. The designer who came up with this not only needs to be fired, the entire management chain above him as well. This dash has NOTHING to do with Mustang anymore and is the exact same shapeless positioning of screens that you see in Mercedes, Opel, Kia, BMW, Hyundai, etc, etc. I have nothing against screens and the new UI is pretty cool but ditching the double brow and going with this utterly generic physical layout is a colossal cluster fcuk. Instead of holding useless clinics with idiot milennials (who cannot afford this car in a million years anyway) all they had to do was walk into any Porsche dealership and look how they completely digitized the dashboard in the 911 while still OOZING heritage design. It's a sad time at Ford when that fake Mustang Mach-E has a dashboard that now has more Mustang heritage than the new S650.
The big question is of course, what Shelby is it? It's clear by the wing and badges that it was a GT350R and the high-revving 5.2-liter V-8 was in full song. But with all that camo draped on the front end, it suggests one of two things: that this is some sort of 350R variant - possibly an even higher-spec track model - or a mule for the long-rumored GT500.
There appears to be a much bigger grille and lower front air dam, as well as a higher hood, which could mean that the flat-plane-crank V-8 has been fitted with a supercharger. Also note the wheels, which are hiding something, possibly larger brakes. Additionally, it was caught testing with a Chevrolet Camaro ZL1, an indication of benchmark testing of the car.
Given the recent flap over GT350s overheating at the track, it's more than possible however that this is just Ford testing a fix to aid cooling to the GT350.
Whatever it is, Ford has something cooking under the hood of the Shelby Mustang, and it shouldn't be long before we know exactly what it is.
The most trash team in the whole world Fordperfomance team.
11-14 still the best body style. And with minimal mechanical knowledge and effort you can’t match this cars power. Certainly not worth 60k+
let's see what happens when you try to put a cold air on a darkhorse lol...that name kills me.
Oh yeah, while I'm telling you the way it is for the end-user,the F-ing screens in the Dark Horse suck. IF I wanted a tablet I'd buy 1, Integrate that Sh%t into the dash WTF.