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What an amazing review! I really loved how you tested the claims by the manufacturer. It was unbiased, to the point, and entertaining - simply perfect !
@@TheHookUp Thinking of picking up the Dangbei Mars Pro, after watching your breakdown list. Have you had the chance to test it's claimed 120hz mode? What did you think of it?
did he cover the projection angle? i didn't see it these cheap chinese projectors are rubbish for a number of reasons... from unrealistic claims to lack of features, whats the point of a projector if it needs to be propped up on a tripod in the middle of your lounge room to get a decent picture? go with a reputable brand where they don't cut such fundamental corners, they are the same price, for example you can get a benq px728-4k or px747-4k for a similar price, the lamp is serviceable and the quality of the product, image and it's features will crap over these cheaply made "cheap" over hyped projectors if the reviewer didn't cover this then your comment doesn't appear to be accurate
So let me get this straight. You come in here saying my review is garbage because I didn’t cover “projection angle”, by which I assume you mean v/h offset since “projection angle” isn’t a thing. Then you go on to recommend two bulb projectors from “BENQ” (those are actually viewsonic models) that don’t have h or v lens shift, so you end up with the exact same issue you are complaining about?
@@TheHookUp you're right i meant viewsonic, great projectors, i upgraded from a w1070 so had benq on my mind not lens shift, i am talking about the angle of projection, is it offset or does it project straight like all the other crappy brand projectors where 50% of the image is below the height of the projector and the other 50% is above reputable brands project the image from where the projector is installed, so the bottom of the image is parallel to the projectors height this makes it ideal for either installation behind the lounge or on the ceiling, without this you need a tripod in the center of your lounge room to position the projector for optimal viewing, why didn't you cover this? what is just ignorance on your part or is it because it would outline an obvious flaw with the projector that the company would approve of? at any rate i don't see how this projector can rival the viewsonic model i mentioned which is available at the same price, actually half price if the current 50% deal on aliexpress is legit, ridiculous!
There is a trick to get proper HDMI 2.1 features is to switch to 1.4 first let it load then jump back to 2.1 this unlocks all the goodies for me. I have to do it every single time which is not my definition of fun but I can see the difference in responsiveness.
I was so excited that you were getting one in after your Expo video - great review as always. This is a nice little unit for above average specs on a budget. My only quibble would be as I associate a projector with a true movie experience (despite being more or less inferior to TV screens) I'm paying for integrated audio components that I will never use in my surround sound set up so would like to see a stripped down version with no speakers. I suppose that's nice thing about UST's and their ability to be used potentially as a centre.
You have to experience the sound to believe it, it really is incredible. I’d say you would need to spend $500+ on a soundbar that could come close to the v10 integrated speakers.
@@TheHookUp I don't disagree that the sound is great as it looks very capable, I'm just saying the projector is going to sit behind me where I have 2 rears already and as such I won't be using it's speakers to confuse a 5.1/7.1 setup. (That is unless it doesn't muddy the water as a rear L+R+centre+sub lol)
I’d love to see an updated Ubiquiti / Home Assistant / MQTT series of videos for 2023. Your older videos were the best of the best, but they are starting to show their age with all of the updates out there :)
TVs are getting cheaper, as screens get bigger, but projectors as the components get cheaper hike up their prices year on. Influencers need to stop promoting projectors until the price drops significantly
Watching this on my V10, this my 1st projector experience ever (outside the corpo world) and I am really impressed for the price, I wanted something I could get with me if I had to move and don't worry about how bulky and impractical it is, thanks for the review.
Got my V10 about 2 months ago (the Chinese version as I don't care about the smart features), coupled with a capable PC and the right cable it just flies. Never going back to monitors/TVs, I am eying it's little sibling the S5 now which looks impressive for the form factor as it's even more portable than the V10.
@@mararuiz-vs6dj I personally recommend the V10 which is by far the best of these 2 options (true 1080p, 4K with extrapolation of pixels, true 120Hz...). But the V10 consumes 220W at peak against 65W for the S5 and costs about twice as much.
@@maliknexus Depends on your needs If you are looking for the best picture out there the V10 hands down If you are looking for portability and efficiency you can choose between the Mogo 2 Pro or the S5 depending on your budget.
Hey, I own v10 Chinese version for over 2 months. I have bought it for 950$. I love it. Definitely it doesn’t feels as a TV but I would never get such a big TV Screen. I use Xiaomi 4K TV Stick to get a “normal” OS and sometimes if I have movies on USB stick, I play them directly. It worth its money!
As you can tell by the lineup almost none of them are accurate so that eliminates you from buying anything. As a tech guy who has spent most of his life in the industry it’s hard to come up with a universally standardized set of testing because there are so many variables. Good rule of thumb, you get what you pay for so look at comparable priced products, look at reviews from people who are passionate, and go with reputable brands and think about longevity and maintenance. Spec sheets aren’t universally standardized.
Hey, as usual, great work and love the video. Your channel has singlehandedly sparked in me the interest of buying a projector instead of a TV due to its practicality and other great aspects like portability in some cases. Thanks a lot for making such detailed unbiased videos. I am looking for an overall good projector to buy for home use considering all factors like cost, brightness, power consumption, etc. Could you make a video combining price categories with projector features as well? Like best projector under 500, 1000, etc? That would be great help in making the right choice. I have seen that in some of your videos you also have the link to excel files comparing everything, and you also have an overall rating somewhere too but I couldn't find it. I would appreciate the help. Thanks
thank you so much for all the time and hard work you put into your videos. Wanted to know if you can compare the formovie v10 and the epson ef12 mini. I think that would be a great comparison.
There are bulb projectors with similar features. The ViewSonic PX701-4K has 4k pixel shift, 3200 Lumens, 240Hz refresh rate @ 1080p, and 4.2ms response time with a MRSP of $900. The form factor is very different though. This looks like a great projector if you want the ability to move it from room to room.
hdmi 2.1 means nothing in the asbence of high refresh rate 4k or 60hz 8K display capabilities. Whether either projector has hdmi 2.1 is completely meaningless
I'm so jealous of the $2000 msrp you guys have for the BenQ x3000i! Here in Europe they bumped it up to €2400 somewhere last year and I'm not buying it at that price for sure!
They should do skeleton versions of these projectors. Because I don’t need the speakers or the os. So just leave them out. Make the projector better. Or just let me use it with my own setup.
Thank you! Interesting for sure. Just why did you not talk about some practical aspects of it? Like, does it have zoom? If not, what picture size can I throw at which distance? And if you have a home cinema with screen and fixed position, fittings, cables etc. for the projector this projector is not usable without zoom.
i was never interested into projectors due to price but this one is a great value for features tbh i will def get the gen 2 of this one (better chip, and lumens)
I have a BenQ 4K projector and it sits on my coffee table. I stopped using my large screen TV and pretty much only use the projector. the reflected light off the screen seems to be a lot less fatiguing over time than the light that is emitted from the TV screen, FWIW. I wish this would have been available when I shopped projectors. The lack of fan noise is a huge plus in its favor.
I jumped off the projector bandwagon for now. I need to see more LED projectors be released and tested over a longer lifespan to make sure they got the durability of that light source ironed out
The LEDs will probably not die, your screens currently use LEDs now, and I doubt you noticed them dying. I’ve used a cheap projector with LED with no issues for years. The controllers/power supplies are what often die first.
@@H0mework you are correct it's not the LED dying, it's usually the polarizing filter that burns up with a brown spot on the middle of the image, I want a projector that I can use all day everyday like a TV, I grew tired of the issues with mercury vapor lamps, I'm sure LED or laser will improve, I'll just let others figure it out for me
Actually, I think the DLP chips are the most fragile parts. They will likely last the whole 20,000 hours if treated well, but can get stuck pixels if not handled well.
@@sergiopery you’re right, a projector won’t be good for being always now. It might need to be bigger or have better cooling as they tend to die due to heat. You could lower the brightness and it probably won’t get too hot if you don’t need it bright. These projectors all use millions of micro mirrors or something every second, its incredible they have such a long life.
@@H0mework during the pandemic I used my Optoma GT1080Darbee for lot's of gaming everyday, I had to take it to a projector shop to diagnose a thermal issue on it, the lamp was still at half it's lifetime yet it had lost some brightness, the plastic under the lamp housing was all yellow, the guy said he constantly has to rebuild projector housings since they end up cracking under the heat, I used it for 2 years and then I realized all the potential points of failure it had due to heat alone. I hope LED and laser light sources improve on this.
I wonder if they can fix the lag with an update. I don't know why they claim so "high" and deliver max. a third of that 🤷🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ Gaming is the main thing, i would be interested in with this one 🙄 For movies, the formovie is awesome for the price!
I agree. I would snatch this up without a second thought if they had a stripped version sans shitty "smart features" and sound. I ALWAYS pair with external sound. Even when camping.
I like this video .I owe Hy300 i have posted some videos on my channel is cheap but for short time is good I found some special settings for ambient light room
Great review! I was almost certain on getting the Xgimi Horizon Pro until I came across this review. Checking Amazon, the V10 is now at $999. Very tempting. One question and not sure if you had tested is the keystone capability on the V10. The Xigimi allows very flexible placement with +/- 40 degree vertical and horizontal off-set. So, I can place the projector off to the side on the coffee table. Can V10 do that?
Hello, can you tell me about the hz,like the fhd 1080p is 240hz, but what about 4k? Can we use 4k 120hz ? Or it works with only 4k 60hz? That is why i love you and many US reviews, you really nailed all the details of it. Even the ms response. Congratulations and thank you
I would love to see a lineup of gaming projectors (short lag time) maybe 18ms or less with best contrast / black levels. This is most important for me when it comes to gaming as input lag is important for obvious reason and great black levels being important for a lot of games that can get dark in certain scenes where you need to look around and see and find things. Also would like to know which ones have an optical audio out as a lot of us gamers hook their gaming consoles next to the projector at the back of the room and run our single fiber optic audio cable back to the front of the room for our home theater receiver or sound bar. Unfortunately a lot of the gaming consoles such as the PS5 are loosing the optical output so to have it available on a projector is almost a must now. Thanks!
I have the EF12. it's AMAZING. THIS Being basically the same brightness in reality, The reason I might check this out is it's 4k. Id like to see a head to head of them as far as contrast ratio, and colors. I NEVER use the on-board OS. I pair with chromecast 4k.
Formovie Dice was released the same way which I own - the International variant has different specs and processors - I would wait until the American version is released
This would make a great portable/outdoor screen projector for parties..etc...I have (2) projectors ceiling mounted..Panasonic pt ae 8000 for 3d and optoma uhd 65 4k pixel shifter that is great on my 150" dalite screen..I cant wait for the benq ht 4550i led 4k pixel shiffter to be sold in april/may this year...it got a best in class at this yr's 2023 CES award...
Hello. What do you say about the comparison between your Panasonic and the Optoma? Is the difference in image quality big? I have the AE7000 and I'm thinking of getting another one but I don't know if it's worth buying a simpler one.
I love my projector. This one would be fine for me. I attach a low latency Bluetooth transmitter to the headphone out and a low latency BT receiver at my stereo hifi, and the you get at least good stereo sound from the picture side of the room...
Hey buddy, I love your reviews but.... why I keep seeing a lot of blue from the images fired by most of the projectors you review? The bit from Star Wars was just blue light everywhere.
Unfortunately the Leo Bodner tester doesn't include a 1080p240hz mode yet, but I find it very unlikely that it would be able to achieve those numbers since the input lag actually went up going from 1080p60 to 1080p120.
@@TheHookUp The frame buffer can only be defeated at 240Hz. This is because a 240Hz input enables all cycles within the DMD's switching frequency of 960Hz to be utilised.
@@WeebLabs Interesting. Hopefully 1080p240 will be available on the Leo Bodner tester soon. However, 12ms at 1080p240hz is not particularly useful since neither xbox nor ps5 support it, and the 1080p120hz performance is pretty bad.
Wow, awesome stuff, thanks for your work! But those values are all over the place, why are they allowed to lie, isn't it false advertising? On a separate note, having a 2.1 sound in the projector is a boon for someone already owning a 5.1 or better yet a 7.1, could just stick everything into an atmos receiver right off the bat.
As far as I know, Chinese projectors don't support apps like Netflix or Disney plus. So if I buy this product, can I plug a google/apple box into it to use these apps?
I don't get the point of Formovie doing that, they do the same to the entire projector lineup. The Formovie X1 for example is exactly the same projector as the Wemax Go Advanced but they advertise it with 1400 ANSI lumens, +130% over spec
Projector market is pretty competitive inside mainland China market especially like Taobao. If everyone else is inflating their spec, it is probably making sense to follow suit (or customers may compare this with those selling for usd 200…). I have bought the same projector myself through AliExpress because of the low price and so far I’m satisfied with its performance. Of course I didn’t really compared this with others…
I was going to buy the wemax advanced but when I've seen the formovie x1 with the same design and better specs like u said 1400 ansi lumen I got confused to buy it or is it the same
The problem with reviewing early units is that those units are hand picked for reviewers, so there's no guarantee that the hardware I am testing is the same as the hardware you will receive. Also, when testing pre-production units they often come with the caveat of "this feature will be available via firmware update at a later date", which I believe is the case right now with 3D support on the N1 Ultra. I'm happy to do a full round of testing and comparison once production units start shipping, but I don't feel comfortable putting my name/brand on a review if I can't be sure that people watching the video will have the same experience.
Shouldn't the x3000i be in 1100-1200:1 contrast range? It also supports 1080p@240hz which makes it very good for gaming. While these projectors are neat and OK for watching with some ambient light they are awful for night viewing or a dedicated theater. I have a 7 year old 1080p DLP that was $500 at the time (Vivitek 1186) and it has a native contrast of 2000:1, it's just acceptable for movies, but motion handling is still very good as it is DLP. I also have a 6050UB (4500:1 native, up to 8000:1 with iris engaged) which is great for movies in my dedicated and treated theater (velvet curtains, flat black paint, dark carpet) but still not in the JVC/Sony range, but those were a little out of my price range, motion handling is OK but not at the same level of DLP.
Just because the projector claims 2000:1 doesn’t mean it will actually measure anywhere close to that. I’d expect a claimed 2000:1 full on full off contrast to measure in the 300-500:1 range based on my past results.
@@TheHookUp My reply was deleted for some reason... The X3000i has been measured by others at 1000:1 to 1300:1, most of these measurements are probably in a dark treated room with no ambient light. I measured the Vivitek myself and it measures around 2000:1 and can get slightly higher with FL Day filter, confirmed by reviews as well (1700:1-2000:1). Specs are nonsense and say something like 15000:1. I calibrate and measure all my displays. I saw a contrast hit back when upgrading from 720p (Sharp DT-500, 3500:1 on/off, even higher with iris) to 1080p and again now that we have "4k". I eventually went with the Epson there were no real options (excluding some three chip DLP with iris, etc. which are extremely expensive) for serious movie watching in a dedicated theater. I would prefer DLP because of the great motion but under 2000:1 on/off is simply not acceptable.
@@TheHookUp Yeah, I was just mentioning it because it was pretty far outside the range of what others had measured. I would check for any stray light during your measurements. Checking at the lens instead of screen may be a good solution if your room is untreated. I think the 4550i will probably improve on it and I wouldn't be surprised to see 1500:1 or slightly better if the lightpath is optimized and has better optics, still not great for a dedicated theater but could be OK for some with the wide gamut, etc.
How is auto or manual keystone compared to the xgimi? I have to place my projector at an angle, so this feature is important to me. Also seem like it has a big subwoofer with good bass, so does the image vibrate if a really high bass video is played?
In depth video introduction to this device. But I have no idea what the technical descriptions and measured figures mean in terms of viewing quality. With the right projector screen is this projector going to work at home to watch movies from 4K AppleTV, in a basically square room 13’ x 13’ (4140mm x 3940mm)? Would have projection screen on the slightly longer 163” (4140mm) wall with maximum throw from opposite wall 155” (3940mm). I’m in Australia so have used simple conversations to feet ‘ and inches”. Apologises if imperial conversations and notations are in correct. This projector just looks to good to be true and that’s my issue. Thanks.
I’m looking for a projector to be put in my bedroom for movies/tv shows. The distance the project will be from the screen will be 12 feet away because of the layout of the bedroom. There will be zero light in the bedroom while watching. Portability, speakers, and os do not matter since I’ll be using surround sound and a Roku ultra. What is your recommended projector with this specific use and layout. I was looking at the horizon pro, Mars pro, and the v10 but was not sure if that was total overkill for the reason listed above. I thought about getting the pj40 but the projector will be about 3 feet over my head and the sound you listed I thought would be a bit to distracting. Still torn between a 70in tv or your recommended projectors.
I am starting to become a mural artist and was wondering what you would suggest? I've seen some artist use a projector called the LG Cinebeam. Do you have any advice about that one? Your videos have been the most helpful by Far! I appreciate your time and energy.
Good job man! bought the Nexigo PJ40 as soon as your video came out! I use it almost every day and it sits right above my bed and allows me to have a 110 inch youtube/gaming/movie watching setup in my bed! I'm planning on upgrading to a higher end projector but not over 1000 dollars, do you have any suggestions?
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has the V10 released in the US yet?
@@animal579 nope, Formovie decided to release the X5 instead. X5 is great though.
What an amazing review! I really loved how you tested the claims by the manufacturer. It was unbiased, to the point, and entertaining - simply perfect !
Crazy thing is I don’t even want a projector, your videos are just really fun and educational
Thanks Dani!
Knowledge is power. Projectors with false lumen claims also carries into the flashlight industry.
I hate that they lie even when the product they have is impressive. Makes me not want to trust the build quality if they are willing to lie though.
My go to guy for honest unbiased, straight to the fact projector reviewer when checking out new projectors to buy. Amazing work you do sir!
Thanks Philip!
@@TheHookUp Thinking of picking up the Dangbei Mars Pro, after watching your breakdown list. Have you had the chance to test it's claimed 120hz mode? What did you think of it?
did he cover the projection angle? i didn't see it
these cheap chinese projectors are rubbish for a number of reasons... from unrealistic claims to lack of features, whats the point of a projector if it needs to be propped up on a tripod in the middle of your lounge room to get a decent picture?
go with a reputable brand where they don't cut such fundamental corners, they are the same price, for example you can get a benq px728-4k or px747-4k for a similar price, the lamp is serviceable and the quality of the product, image and it's features will crap over these cheaply made "cheap" over hyped projectors
if the reviewer didn't cover this then your comment doesn't appear to be accurate
So let me get this straight. You come in here saying my review is garbage because I didn’t cover “projection angle”, by which I assume you mean v/h offset since “projection angle” isn’t a thing. Then you go on to recommend two bulb projectors from “BENQ” (those are actually viewsonic models) that don’t have h or v lens shift, so you end up with the exact same issue you are complaining about?
@@TheHookUp you're right i meant viewsonic, great projectors, i upgraded from a w1070 so had benq on my mind
not lens shift, i am talking about the angle of projection, is it offset or does it project straight like all the other crappy brand projectors where 50% of the image is below the height of the projector and the other 50% is above
reputable brands project the image from where the projector is installed, so the bottom of the image is parallel to the projectors height
this makes it ideal for either installation behind the lounge or on the ceiling, without this you need a tripod in the center of your lounge room to position the projector for optimal viewing, why didn't you cover this?
what is just ignorance on your part or is it because it would outline an obvious flaw with the projector that the company would approve of?
at any rate i don't see how this projector can rival the viewsonic model i mentioned which is available at the same price, actually half price if the current 50% deal on aliexpress is legit, ridiculous!
There is a trick to get proper HDMI 2.1 features is to switch to 1.4 first let it load then jump back to 2.1 this unlocks all the goodies for me. I have to do it every single time which is not my definition of fun but I can see the difference in responsiveness.
What website did you buy it from ? How is it in gaming
3:43 the explanation you go on to give is why i subbed .. thats some extensive work and its awesome your efforts protect the consumer!
This is going to be my first projector! Thank you!
Never knew about this channel before then BOOM, some serious testing here. Nicely done!
impressively thurough testing from a channel i have never even heard of. Subscribed!
I was so excited that you were getting one in after your Expo video - great review as always. This is a nice little unit for above average specs on a budget. My only quibble would be as I associate a projector with a true movie experience (despite being more or less inferior to TV screens) I'm paying for integrated audio components that I will never use in my surround sound set up so would like to see a stripped down version with no speakers. I suppose that's nice thing about UST's and their ability to be used potentially as a centre.
You have to experience the sound to believe it, it really is incredible. I’d say you would need to spend $500+ on a soundbar that could come close to the v10 integrated speakers.
@@TheHookUp I don't disagree that the sound is great as it looks very capable, I'm just saying the projector is going to sit behind me where I have 2 rears already and as such I won't be using it's speakers to confuse a 5.1/7.1 setup. (That is unless it doesn't muddy the water as a rear L+R+centre+sub lol)
Chart at 2:00, Anker 4k Laser is 2400 ISO Lumens not ANSI Lumens. Both are close but slightly different.
Love your in depth, no nonsense review style!
Very nice and finally 4k small projectors hit the market. Thank you for wonderful reciew, valid 👍😃
I’d love to see an updated Ubiquiti / Home Assistant / MQTT series of videos for 2023. Your older videos were the best of the best, but they are starting to show their age with all of the updates out there :)
I'd like this too. I finally got around to setting up Home Assistant on a pi and I am now starting to figure out the rest.
TVs are getting cheaper, as screens get bigger, but projectors as the components get cheaper hike up their prices year on. Influencers need to stop promoting projectors until the price drops significantly
OMFG i was waiting for this video
Watching this on my V10, this my 1st projector experience ever (outside the corpo world) and I am really impressed for the price, I wanted something I could get with me if I had to move and don't worry about how bulky and impractical it is, thanks for the review.
Is it worth buying how is it on series X
What website did you buy it from
Thanks for explaining the ANSI lumens measurement protocol in this video haha
Got my V10 about 2 months ago (the Chinese version as I don't care about the smart features), coupled with a capable PC and the right cable it just flies. Never going back to monitors/TVs, I am eying it's little sibling the S5 now which looks impressive for the form factor as it's even more portable than the V10.
Hi, did you get the s5? Witch one do you recommend more?
I heard about the S5 and it's not on Amazon where did you get it?
I can't decide what to get:
Xgimi Mogo pro 2
Formovie V10
Or the S5
@@mararuiz-vs6dj
I personally recommend the V10 which is by far the best of these 2 options (true 1080p, 4K with extrapolation of pixels, true 120Hz...). But the V10 consumes 220W at peak against 65W for the S5 and costs about twice as much.
@@maliknexus
Depends on your needs
If you are looking for the best picture out there the V10 hands down
If you are looking for portability and efficiency you can choose between the Mogo 2 Pro or the S5 depending on your budget.
Hey, I own v10 Chinese version for over 2 months. I have bought it for 950$. I love it. Definitely it doesn’t feels as a TV but I would never get such a big TV Screen. I use Xiaomi 4K TV Stick to get a “normal” OS and sometimes if I have movies on USB stick, I play them directly. It worth its money!
Can you change the language to English in the settings?
@@maliknexus yes English is present in settings. But some apps are still in Chinese, but I don't use them.
No one tests input lag, as scientifically as u do,n just for that u have a loyal subscriber
For the price, it's still quite impressive
I definitely agree.
Can you do a Comparison between dangbei 4k the V10 And the Formovie S5 ?
I try never to support products with fake or misleading specs
As you can tell by the lineup almost none of them are accurate so that eliminates you from buying anything. As a tech guy who has spent most of his life in the industry it’s hard to come up with a universally standardized set of testing because there are so many variables. Good rule of thumb, you get what you pay for so look at comparable priced products, look at reviews from people who are passionate, and go with reputable brands and think about longevity and maintenance. Spec sheets aren’t universally standardized.
Then you can’t support much of anything. Certainly not a single power tool.
I guess you don't buy products then 😂
Unfortunately i believe the US government no longer punishes false advertising so this is going to apply to most products.
Or you mean try not support Chinese products, since they cause the US national security issue? 🤣🤣🤣
Hey, as usual, great work and love the video. Your channel has singlehandedly sparked in me the interest of buying a projector instead of a TV due to its practicality and other great aspects like portability in some cases. Thanks a lot for making such detailed unbiased videos.
I am looking for an overall good projector to buy for home use considering all factors like cost, brightness, power consumption, etc. Could you make a video combining price categories with projector features as well? Like best projector under 500, 1000, etc? That would be great help in making the right choice. I have seen that in some of your videos you also have the link to excel files comparing everything, and you also have an overall rating somewhere too but I couldn't find it. I would appreciate the help. Thanks
Thanks!
thank you so much for all the time and hard work you put into your videos. Wanted to know if you can compare the formovie v10 and the epson ef12 mini. I think that would be a great comparison.
This will not be the last time we see the V10 on my channel. Hopefully I'll have the US version though.
@@TheHookUp sounds like a plan to me.
Interesting review. Have you planed to test Formovie S5 ? He looks amazing and i'm hesitating between him and The Freestyle 😇
Threre are a few similar but a step older projectors at 1200 or less... Thisnis a step forward, not a huge shift...
Great review. Thanks for the testing and analysis
Could you do a recommendation on cheapest 3d projector? I'd like to buy one, but no one has reviews. I'm currently using a moto mod projector lol.
Hey, just wanted to say high from Argentina. Thanks for your great videos and dedication
Can you do a test Epson ef12. I would like to see how he compare with others on a market. Great movie !
There are bulb projectors with similar features. The ViewSonic PX701-4K has 4k pixel shift, 3200 Lumens, 240Hz refresh rate @ 1080p, and 4.2ms response time with a MRSP of $900. The form factor is very different though. This looks like a great projector if you want the ability to move it from room to room.
hdmi 2.1?
hdmi 2.1 means nothing in the asbence of high refresh rate 4k or 60hz 8K display capabilities. Whether either projector has hdmi 2.1 is completely meaningless
@@bishcashani2426 Exactly
@@bishcashani2426 the question can it do 4k120
It’s a bulb. Way shorter life span and it’s without speaker or OS. Not really a comparison
I trust you and you havent led me wrong
that little sub built into the bottom is so cute
I'm so jealous of the $2000 msrp you guys have for the BenQ x3000i! Here in Europe they bumped it up to €2400 somewhere last year and I'm not buying it at that price for sure!
2000 MSRP is without tax (VAT)
They definitely need to make them cheaper. Projectors do not need to cost that much.
They should do skeleton versions of these projectors. Because I don’t need the speakers or the os. So just leave them out. Make the projector better. Or just let me use it with my own setup.
Thank you! Interesting for sure. Just why did you not talk about some practical aspects of it? Like, does it have zoom? If not, what picture size can I throw at which distance? And if you have a home cinema with screen and fixed position, fittings, cables etc. for the projector this projector is not usable without zoom.
Only digital zoom, this type of projector is less suited for proper home theater use.
@@TheHookUp Thanks. This is not obvious to me, as someone who buys a new projector once in 5-10 years.
Another good video....As usual.
i was never interested into projectors due to price
but this one is a great value for features
tbh i will def get the gen 2 of this one (better chip, and lumens)
I have a BenQ 4K projector and it sits on my coffee table. I stopped using my large screen TV and pretty much only use the projector. the reflected light off the screen seems to be a lot less fatiguing over time than the light that is emitted from the TV screen, FWIW. I wish this would have been available when I shopped projectors. The lack of fan noise is a huge plus in its favor.
I jumped off the projector bandwagon for now. I need to see more LED projectors be released and tested over a longer lifespan to make sure they got the durability of that light source ironed out
The LEDs will probably not die, your screens currently use LEDs now, and I doubt you noticed them dying. I’ve used a cheap projector with LED with no issues for years. The controllers/power supplies are what often die first.
@@H0mework you are correct it's not the LED dying, it's usually the polarizing filter that burns up with a brown spot on the middle of the image, I want a projector that I can use all day everyday like a TV, I grew tired of the issues with mercury vapor lamps, I'm sure LED or laser will improve, I'll just let others figure it out for me
Actually, I think the DLP chips are the most fragile parts. They will likely last the whole 20,000 hours if treated well, but can get stuck pixels if not handled well.
@@sergiopery you’re right, a projector won’t be good for being always now. It might need to be bigger or have better cooling as they tend to die due to heat. You could lower the brightness and it probably won’t get too hot if you don’t need it bright. These projectors all use millions of micro mirrors or something every second, its incredible they have such a long life.
@@H0mework during the pandemic I used my Optoma GT1080Darbee for lot's of gaming everyday, I had to take it to a projector shop to diagnose a thermal issue on it, the lamp was still at half it's lifetime yet it had lost some brightness, the plastic under the lamp housing was all yellow, the guy said he constantly has to rebuild projector housings since they end up cracking under the heat, I used it for 2 years and then I realized all the potential points of failure it had due to heat alone. I hope LED and laser light sources improve on this.
A Chinese electronics manufacturer lying about the specs/capabilities of their products? No way, I refuse to believe it.
Awesome review as always, well done! Just a question, when is the European / US version expected to be released?
I wonder if they can fix the lag with an update.
I don't know why they claim so "high" and deliver max. a third of that 🤷🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
Gaming is the main thing, i would be interested in with this one 🙄
For movies, the formovie is awesome for the price!
Any word or update on the us version release date?
if the imput lag goes up with refresh rate then it most likey scaling down the frame rate and is not true 120+
I honestly wish more projectors rather had a cheaper price than having built in speakers..
I agree. I would snatch this up without a second thought if they had a stripped version sans shitty "smart features" and sound. I ALWAYS pair with external sound. Even when camping.
Amazing review as always, thanks!
Great insight, as always!
Thanks for this detailed video . Can you also review Xgimi Elfin?
I like this video .I owe Hy300 i have posted some videos on my channel is cheap but for short time is good
I found some special settings for ambient light room
Hey! How are u? Do you know when it will be released in the US?
No official release date yet.
Great review! I was almost certain on getting the Xgimi Horizon Pro until I came across this review. Checking Amazon, the V10 is now at $999. Very tempting.
One question and not sure if you had tested is the keystone capability on the V10. The Xigimi allows very flexible placement with +/- 40 degree vertical and horizontal off-set. So, I can place the projector off to the side on the coffee table.
Can V10 do that?
great, honest review... as usual.
Could you review the Mecool kp1? It seems to be a great challenger for the Nexigo PJ40.
A lot of thanks for share with us your experience
Great review with some substantial data and measurements! Can you include some sharpness tests/photos in the future videos?
Pleaaaaasee more videos like this with newer models
I hate this trend of wrapping electronics with fabric. Makes them impossible to clean!
I was just looking at this unit. YIKES! It's up to $2300 dollars now.
Lots of better options these days: th-cam.com/video/3KmKv-TTIQQ/w-d-xo.html
What about Epson tw-6250 or tw-7000 ?
Hello, can you tell me about the hz,like the fhd 1080p is 240hz, but what about 4k? Can we use 4k 120hz ? Or it works with only 4k 60hz?
That is why i love you and many US reviews, you really nailed all the details of it. Even the ms response. Congratulations and thank you
Proud to be a patron! As usual great work.
Thanks David!
I would love to see a lineup of gaming projectors (short lag time) maybe 18ms or less with best contrast / black levels.
This is most important for me when it comes to gaming as input lag is important for obvious reason and great black levels being important for a lot of games that can get dark in certain scenes where you need to look around and see and find things.
Also would like to know which ones have an optical audio out as a lot of us gamers hook their gaming consoles next to the projector at the back of the room and run our single fiber optic audio cable back to the front of the room for our home theater receiver or sound bar. Unfortunately a lot of the gaming consoles such as the PS5 are loosing the optical output so to have it available on a projector is almost a must now.
Thanks!
You should have compared against the market leader Epson version EF-12
I have the EF12. it's AMAZING. THIS Being basically the same brightness in reality, The reason I might check this out is it's 4k. Id like to see a head to head of them as far as contrast ratio, and colors.
I NEVER use the on-board OS. I pair with chromecast 4k.
Formovie Dice was released the same way which I own - the International variant has different specs and processors - I would wait until the American version is released
This would make a great portable/outdoor screen projector for parties..etc...I have (2) projectors ceiling mounted..Panasonic pt ae 8000 for 3d and optoma uhd 65 4k pixel shifter that is great on my 150" dalite screen..I cant wait for the benq ht 4550i led 4k pixel shiffter to be sold in april/may this year...it got a best in class at this yr's 2023 CES award...
Yeah, the BENQ is going to be amazing.
Hello. What do you say about the comparison between your Panasonic and the Optoma? Is the difference in image quality big? I have the AE7000 and I'm thinking of getting another one but I don't know if it's worth buying a simpler one.
I love my projector. This one would be fine for me. I attach a low latency Bluetooth transmitter to the headphone out and a low latency BT receiver at my stereo hifi, and the you get at least good stereo sound from the picture side of the room...
I don’t even want to buy a projector but a fellow Dota player gets a subscription from me.
Hey buddy, I love your reviews but.... why I keep seeing a lot of blue from the images fired by most of the projectors you review? The bit from Star Wars was just blue light everywhere.
Sounds like a great little projector. I bought the Formovie Theater a couple months back and its been amazing so far.
Formovie, Fengmi , Pocco , Redmi etc are all brands from XIAOMI ... they are some of the world's best quality for the price !!!
What do you use it for? I don't understand the market for these portable projectors..
@@GizmoMaltese formovie theatre is a short throw projector, its a TV replacement
A bit dissapointed that most claims are not real
Exactly. If they lie about that, what else?
Exactly. If they lie about that, what else?
i'd love to see this in a comparison video
Great review! When will we have the review of the JMGO N1 Ultra Triple Laser 4K projector? It seems this projector will be released globally
Hongtop s30 vs thundealtd90 which one is best ? On AliExpress in cheap
The 12ms specification refers specifically to the 1080p240 mode, which doesn't appear to have been tested in this review.
Unfortunately the Leo Bodner tester doesn't include a 1080p240hz mode yet, but I find it very unlikely that it would be able to achieve those numbers since the input lag actually went up going from 1080p60 to 1080p120.
@@TheHookUp The frame buffer can only be defeated at 240Hz. This is because a 240Hz input enables all cycles within the DMD's switching frequency of 960Hz to be utilised.
@@WeebLabs Interesting. Hopefully 1080p240 will be available on the Leo Bodner tester soon. However, 12ms at 1080p240hz is not particularly useful since neither xbox nor ps5 support it, and the 1080p120hz performance is pretty bad.
@@TheHookUp The intention is for it to be connected to a PC.
Wow, awesome stuff, thanks for your work!
But those values are all over the place, why are they allowed to lie, isn't it false advertising?
On a separate note, having a 2.1 sound in the projector is a boon for someone already owning a 5.1 or better yet a 7.1, could just stick everything into an atmos receiver right off the bat.
As far as I know, Chinese projectors don't support apps like Netflix or Disney plus. So if I buy this product, can I plug a google/apple box into it to use these apps?
Hey, i was wondering will you ever do a video on how to calibrate a projector image?
So any company can lie to win an award that’s just fantastic
I don't get the point of Formovie doing that, they do the same to the entire projector lineup. The Formovie X1 for example is exactly the same projector as the Wemax Go Advanced but they advertise it with 1400 ANSI lumens, +130% over spec
When you don’t have a better product, you just need “better” marketing!
@@float32 But their products are good, that's why this marketing strategy is dumb
Projector market is pretty competitive inside mainland China market especially like Taobao. If everyone else is inflating their spec, it is probably making sense to follow suit (or customers may compare this with those selling for usd 200…). I have bought the same projector myself through AliExpress because of the low price and so far I’m satisfied with its performance. Of course I didn’t really compared this with others…
I was going to buy the wemax advanced but when I've seen the formovie x1 with the same design and better specs like u said 1400 ansi lumen I got confused to buy it or is it the same
did you now something about the new actualization launch?
Should I a wait for the us version?
If you want to use the built in OS I would definitely recommend waiting.
@@TheHookUpwhen do you believe the us version will be available?
June
@@TheHookUp thanks!
@@TheHookUp any update here? When do we expect the US version to be released?
How was the HDR performance? Is it too dark or as good as a laser projector?
Thanks so much for the fantastic review. Could you review this JMGO N1 kickstarter projector soon please? JMGO N1 Ultra 4K
The problem with reviewing early units is that those units are hand picked for reviewers, so there's no guarantee that the hardware I am testing is the same as the hardware you will receive. Also, when testing pre-production units they often come with the caveat of "this feature will be available via firmware update at a later date", which I believe is the case right now with 3D support on the N1 Ultra.
I'm happy to do a full round of testing and comparison once production units start shipping, but I don't feel comfortable putting my name/brand on a review if I can't be sure that people watching the video will have the same experience.
I’m surprised they’re still pixel shifting. Are there any true 4K ones in this price range with decent brightness and low enough response time?
Shouldn't the x3000i be in 1100-1200:1 contrast range? It also supports 1080p@240hz which makes it very good for gaming. While these projectors are neat and OK for watching with some ambient light they are awful for night viewing or a dedicated theater.
I have a 7 year old 1080p DLP that was $500 at the time (Vivitek 1186) and it has a native contrast of 2000:1, it's just acceptable for movies, but motion handling is still very good as it is DLP.
I also have a 6050UB (4500:1 native, up to 8000:1 with iris engaged) which is great for movies in my dedicated and treated theater (velvet curtains, flat black paint, dark carpet) but still not in the JVC/Sony range, but those were a little out of my price range, motion handling is OK but not at the same level of DLP.
Just because the projector claims 2000:1 doesn’t mean it will actually measure anywhere close to that. I’d expect a claimed 2000:1 full on full off contrast to measure in the 300-500:1 range based on my past results.
@@TheHookUp My reply was deleted for some reason... The X3000i has been measured by others at 1000:1 to 1300:1, most of these measurements are probably in a dark treated room with no ambient light.
I measured the Vivitek myself and it measures around 2000:1 and can get slightly higher with FL Day filter, confirmed by reviews as well (1700:1-2000:1). Specs are nonsense and say something like 15000:1. I calibrate and measure all my displays.
I saw a contrast hit back when upgrading from 720p (Sharp DT-500, 3500:1 on/off, even higher with iris) to 1080p and again now that we have "4k".
I eventually went with the Epson there were no real options (excluding some three chip DLP with iris, etc. which are extremely expensive) for serious movie watching in a dedicated theater. I would prefer DLP because of the great motion but under 2000:1 on/off is simply not acceptable.
@@tbob2224 x3000i says 20,000:1 in the specs. I personally measured the FOFO at 899:1.
Edit: actually says 500,000:1 in the specs.
@@TheHookUp Yeah, I was just mentioning it because it was pretty far outside the range of what others had measured. I would check for any stray light during your measurements. Checking at the lens instead of screen may be a good solution if your room is untreated.
I think the 4550i will probably improve on it and I wouldn't be surprised to see 1500:1 or slightly better if the lightpath is optimized and has better optics, still not great for a dedicated theater but could be OK for some with the wide gamut, etc.
great review! I just order one, what software version does yours come with?
Can it do 200 inch even if quality goes down ??
7:33 Response time and input lag are two completely different things.
The column is input lag.
Don't confuse average viewers who aren't tech savvy.
Hi dr.. please review Jmgo n1 ultra
How is auto or manual keystone compared to the xgimi? I have to place my projector at an angle, so this feature is important to me. Also seem like it has a big subwoofer with good bass, so does the image vibrate if a really high bass video is played?
It was very accurate
In depth video introduction to this device. But I have no idea what the technical descriptions and measured figures mean in terms of viewing quality.
With the right projector screen is this projector going to work at home to watch movies from 4K AppleTV, in a basically square room 13’ x 13’ (4140mm x 3940mm)?
Would have projection screen on the slightly longer 163” (4140mm) wall with maximum throw from opposite wall 155” (3940mm).
I’m in Australia so have used simple conversations to feet ‘ and inches”.
Apologises if imperial conversations and notations are in correct. This projector just looks to good to be true and that’s my issue.
Thanks.
I’m looking for a projector to be put in my bedroom for movies/tv shows. The distance the project will be from the screen will be 12 feet away because of the layout of the bedroom. There will be zero light in the bedroom while watching. Portability, speakers, and os do not matter since I’ll be using surround sound and a Roku ultra. What is your recommended projector with this specific use and layout. I was looking at the horizon pro, Mars pro, and the v10 but was not sure if that was total overkill for the reason listed above.
I thought about getting the pj40 but the projector will be about 3 feet over my head and the sound you listed I thought would be a bit to distracting. Still torn between a 70in tv or your recommended projectors.
Formovie and dangbei seem good value
Great info. Subbed
I am starting to become a mural artist and was wondering what you would suggest? I've seen some artist use a projector called the LG Cinebeam. Do you have any advice about that one?
Your videos have been the most helpful by Far! I appreciate your time and energy.
Good job man! bought the Nexigo PJ40 as soon as your video came out! I use it almost every day and it sits right above my bed and allows me to have a 110 inch youtube/gaming/movie watching setup in my bed!
I'm planning on upgrading to a higher end projector but not over 1000 dollars, do you have any suggestions?