Yo, hope this helps! If you are interested in picked anything up, affiliate links are in the description! All goes to support the channel! Appreciate it and good luck. ALSO! Didn't find this out until after the video, BUT there is huge bundle if you purchase any RX 7000 series GPU (except the RX 7600 non-XT) at the moment. You can get up to 2 games and some options include: Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2, Unknown 9: Awakening, and much more! To get the bundle you have to purchase your GPU or select CPU through Amazon or Newegg, then you claim it through your order. I'm leaving some links below explain some things if you are interested (personally I think imma pick up an RX 7700 XT and get Space Marine 2 lol). www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/new-amd-gaming-bundle-for-ryzen-7000-cpus-and-radeon-rx-7000-gpus www.amd.com/en/gaming/featured-games.html That sweetens the deal quite a bit, especially if you are interested in any of the games
40:00 4090 cost whole +2200 Euro in Sweden and not even close to msrp, for me msrp looks good price but not price we have becuze of politics in Sweden. rest in EU have high price too not fun and we pay more tax.
Wait, no 3080 ti? It's a beast, performs like 4070s/7900 gre/3090. I don't know about the used market in the USA, but it can be found for 400-450 euros here in Europe.
I upgraded from an RX 470 to an RX 6600 for 285 USD and I am very happy with my purchase. In my country graphics cards are expensive. I can finally play modern AAA titles!
That's cool! I upgraded from an RX 480 to an RX 5700 XT for ~$130 USD and I'm also very happy with the performance gains. It's allowed me to move up from 1080p to 1440p as I don't play very graphically heavily titles (no RT). I also find GPUs to be rather expensive here in the UK compared to most of the US. With AAA titles, I can go up to Ultra settings at 1080p, and do at least medium settings at 1440p with playable framerates.
non xt version is great for 1080p. the xt version or now the refreshed 6650xt is ok for 1440p but that is probably the minimum in performance for that resolution.
upgraded from 1080(sold it for 150$) and bought a 4060 for 280$. On paper the performance should be similar but I'm getting minikum 40% more fps in all games...
Honestly, if you're going to be building a PC that will cost you more than 2K USD, you should 100% wait since new expensive parts will be coming out very soon. RTX 5080, RX 8800 XT, Core Ultra 7 265K, Ryzen 7 9800X3D for example. However, if you're building a PC under $2000 then just use the parts that are being sold now because we won't get something like an RTX 5060 until Summer 2025.
Hi there, I’m new to the pc building world, I was wondering if there is a history of past GPU series going for less once the latest series are released? I want to build my first pc and don’t know if I should just wait. Waiting on Prime day next month and Black Friday and cyber Monday to get all my parts.
i've always preferred efficiency over value. it's why i started with intel and moved over to ryzen when the 3000s came out. it's why i recently chose an r5 5600 and a 4060 for my second sister instead of a 7600. she mostly plays roblox anyways. it's cheaper long term on the electricity bill. she was using a 960 before paired with an 85 watt intel cpu. considering she's still happy with 1080p, that system will definitely last past 2030.
_Wants to build a 2k euros worth of pc since pretty much middle-start year_ _gotta wait even more because the big corpos woke up and started releasing and spreading rumors about their new tech_
Im waiting. Besides, arent we forgetting that we should also be waiting for new CPU's? Im not a huge parts nerd so im not sure if the intel I9 will minimize the usefulness of the 5090. but I would assume that would be the case. Am I wrong?
Here in Dominican Republic I got an open box RX 7900 XTX for $580.00 and got a brand new RTX 4070 Ti super for $660.00 on eBay. I got the AMD card for a friend and the Nvidia one was for me and I’m pretty happy with this GPU
I just recently got the 4070Ti Super and I am loving it so far. I can run any game I want and max out the graphics and ray tracing in 4k and still get over 60 frames (unless its like CP77 then I need DLSS and frame gen)
yeah I was waiting for the 7900XT / GRE, ended up going with the 6950XT because it was available new in my country and the 4070 was a few hundred dollars more
Just got myself a 3070 for 150€ just last week on ebay. An HP OEM version, but it was brand new and sealed in its antistatic bag. Extremely happy with it for 1440p, replacing my previous 5600XT which was getting some annoying driver crash in some old games after the last updates.
That’s interesting about the 5600 XT having driver crash issues. I’ve still got my old 5700 XT in a backup system and it’s always ran flawlessly. 3070 class is definitely a nice upgrade.
@@Sonicstillpoint83 Yeah, not sure if it's related to thermals or simply the card being on its way out. It's a trashy Mech OC version, but temps were fine for the most part (max 85° at max load in summer, with undervolted to 915mV, stock frequency). Updated Drivers (WHQL only) were ALWAYS installed after a clean wipe via DDU. Could maybe get lower temps with an aggressive fan curve, but Mech Oc fans are trash and loud. at 50% it's literally a jet engine, at 100% is a whole airport -.-' The thing is it crashed often in games when it needed to load some game section, so not sure if the vram were getting hot. Still haven't found a way to test it yet, since it's on my older rig with a Xeon e3 1220v2 (i7 3770). So I can't stress test it there. Maybe I'll try finding a deal on a cheap intel 9th gen rig or something and test it out that way. Extremely happy with my 3070 HP so far, card runs fine I just need to get around getting some 2mm thermal pads, as the one I've replaced are a bit on the hard side (they make contacts and temps are fine though, max 68° at max load with undervolt+300mhz core OC, no memory OC though). Moreover, I can push the fans up to 50% (2000rpm) before even hearing some noise, while the 5600xt Mech OC at 30% (about 2400rpm) was twice as loud. Btw it's paired with a Ryzen 5 5600 in a fairly ventilated old school corsair 540 with 3x 120mm intake front, 1x 80mm small intake in GPU bracket, 1x 120mm exhaust in the back and 1x 140mm exhaust on the top.
Good shout out on current cards. I do think waiting a bit longer for RDNA 4 might be worth it. Especially if the rumors are true and we actually get some acceptable RT performance and most likely FSR 4.0 with Ai upscaling. If the top end one (8800XT) ends up close to a 4080 performance in raster at $500-600 that would be an amazing buy. Hopefully the lower end one brings back some value to the low end because that market has been largely neglected by both AMD and Nvidia.
Got my 6700xt used for 200$ works great had it for about 3 months still going strong. Temps are great power is good I think going used for lower end cards is better option but on high tier it’s not worth it.
This is an odd time frame for me, I'm 50, massive Computer nerd through the 80's, 90's, 2000's (C64, Amiga 500, Amiga 1200, PC) then life got REAL busy! 3 children (one deceased), marriage, mortgage.. etc. Finally got somewhat back into PC builds and gaming after 20 years. Got a brilliant motherboard, awesome CPU, great ram but it appears I've stuffed up with the Video Card after spending $750 AU on a Geforce Ti 4060 16GB Card. Oh well, can't win em all... stress, life, hardship.. etc does a number on your logic.
@@kaimojepaslt Always try to buy off a reputable seller that has reviews. Sometimes I'll tell the seller that I want to test the card. When they say yes, I say don't worry about it, because I know their willingness to test means the card is more than likely good.
@@Josh-cw8by This. In an act of desperation I bought a janky Nitro+ 5700XT from China. Shit works but heatsink fins are mildly corroded, back panel was slightly bent and there was some minor scratches on the shroud and backpanel (it's a mining card). Was a Great deal! It was $125USD. I repasted it and swapped the thermal pads with putty. I stopped using it after I bought the GRE.
7900xt and esc 7900xtx are killing it at Stable diffusion and where i live xtx are sold out bcs if that reason, 24gb of vram for almost half price of 4090. AMD is coming big time in AI game...
You got a guide for stable diffusion on windows? I'm about to pull the trigger on the 7900xt myself, and I'd like to know how to get it up and running.
@@VS-cx7pd No on Linux but you can emulate Linux on Win machine if its a husle to install it. But on windows you have Amuse 2.0.1 that offers some selection of decent models including Flux.1 and its quite fun.I run 7800xt only on 64gb am4 machine with 5800x3d.. If you find good deal on xtx go for it. I have a feeling that veam will become even more expensive with new GPUs esc from Nvidia side.
@@VS-cx7pd Highly suggest Nvidia for anything AI Related unless you want to do Linux as ROCm right now is only on Linux, Windows will only Use DirectML which is slow but still doable, for your all in one Image Generation needs i suggest Stability Matrix and Using ComfyUI for inference, It allows you to download all the models you want from hugging face and Civitai with the click of a button. Look up some tutorials to get it up and running.
TIRED OF PEOPLE TALKING DOWN ON THE 4060! I built a system for 1080p 60fps gaming, and the 4060 is awesome because the model I got is super quiet, runs very cool and also the 4060 doesn't use a lot of power at all. paired it with a 12400f and 32gb of ddr5 ram, and it destroys at 1080p 60fps gaming on my living room tv. i am a 4060 enjoyer!
@@jmass4207 Well i did build this pc specifically for my 1080p 60hz living room tv. i already have like 3 monitors, and I already did test it on my 165hz 1080p monitor. and it does indeed get way above 60fps.
You also could have included the used market on higher end and current generation GPUs. 4080, 4070 Ti Super, 7900 XT, and 7900 XTX are all available used often for $50-$100 off the current pricing with the added bonus that these cards have only been used for a year or two.
leaks suggest that the rtx 5080 is just an rtx 4090 with a 40% boost, which is still not enough for Alan Wake 2 at max lol so i suggest buying the cheapest RTX 4070 Super as it's worth your buck keeping it future proof while retaining its cheapness
I bought my RX 5700 XT about 2 years ago for 250$ CAD... it's wonderful. Running on a Ryzen 5800X... I plan on upgrading to either an RX 6800 or probably will wait a bit more to get a 7800 XT or 7900 GRE (which would be the max my PC can take as I like balance) The expensive cards above... only if I start to get good work contract as for now... My income doesn't allow me to treat myself.
This is super helpful! Would you do a similiar format for other components? Like which CPUs, fans, motherboards, PSUs, etc are actually worth buying and why?
RX 7600 (8GB) is going strong in my current build for gaming atm even tho it's purpose was for the Av1 Encoder which will be utilized next year whenever the highest RX 8000 series comes gonna be great paired with Elgato's 4k X Capture Card can't wait to run 2 PC's with a KVM Switch :D
Just scored a 4070 Ti Super Expert card straight from MSI for $729 during their sale last week. Couldn't be happier for holding out to upgrade my 3060 Ti. Only downside for me is this new card is a chonky boy to fit into my sff case. But i made it fit.
I use RT on my 3060 all the time, admittidly mostly reflection but not always & come on its a 3060! but it makes everything look so much better! If you use it right and tweak settings rather than max everything and slap it on! basically remove the stuff Rasta does to fake the look of what RT delivers (added highlights/shading ect. usually in ultra/extreme lighting/shadows, set these 2 to high tends to works well for me) The perfomance impact can be far less than you would think and look better to me than maxed out Rasta. I play my RT titles above 120fps 1080p with the 3060 12gb.
I've got a 5700XT! It's the business. I remember being afraid that I couldn't run Star Wars Outlaws, because of some of the trailers that came out. The game runs amazing and looks amazing. Keep in mind that I'm only doing 1080p on my old TV, but I'm fine with that. I'll upgrade my card if I ever care to upgrade my TV. I'm sure the 5700xt is gonna be great for a couple more years, at least.
I just got a 3070 FTW3 Ultra for $240 was that a good deal? I upgraded from a now nine year old 980ti Windforce. It even uses 30w less power. I recently learned that a monitor or display output can cause a bottleneck so I am waiting for a 4k monitor to arrive now. I spent 460 total. Last time I upgraded I spent 600 and that was almost six years ago now.
As someone that doesn't really care about upscaling and RT, the 7800XT is great for 1440p and I can definitely recommend it for a good price ! Tho I did see some games struggling a little at that resolution (like FFXVI, but it seems to be the port that is not really optimized)
I want to upgrade from 2060 super in your opinion better get 7700 xt ($390) or rx 6800 ($360)? Both brand new. Or should i just wait for the next gen gpu? Im using ryzen 5 7500f for the cpu
I just recently bought a 4070super found on a flash sale for £500, the 7900 GRE is £550. To me it was a no brainer to go for the 4070super. Upgrading from a 2070super that lasted for 4 years and could still run every game with mid/high settings at 1440p
What would be the best GPU for my dad? He has 0 interest in games, but still wants a high end PC in the general sense. I was thinking about getting him an RX 580 from XFX. The Intel arc seems like it could be a good choice if it was cheaper. For future proofing, at minimum it needs to be able to run 3x 4K monitors at 60 Hz. I think the RX 580 could do that and it's like $120 rn.
I scored a 5700 XT for $120 (Sapphire Pulse), slapped PTM-7950 in it and overclocked the crap out of it so now it absolutely mogs an RTX 3060. Absolute banger GPU now that the drivers are nice and mature.
Why no mention of the RX 6700 XT in the Used $200-$300 section? I just bought one for $209 shipped and it solves the VRAM problem of the 3060 Ti / 3070
LMAO i was going CRAZY comparing GPUs and ended up with the rx 6600 xt with the price range I was lookin for so glad your video confirmed it for me for sure now
I just purchased a Sapphire Nitro+ 7900 XTX until the 5090s come out and it's not only the prettiest GPU of them all, it's actually really good at gaming. I love it.
Bro don't forget about used RTX 2080ti 11GB. These GPUs are now harder to find, but if you can get one for around $250-300 it's the best Nvidia option below Rtx 4070. Performance is close to 3070, but extra 3GB basically solves Vram problems. Obviously you also have DLSS available.
well where i like India Maharashtra the rx 7800xt goes for 573 dollars the rtx 4070 goes for 631 dollars the rtx 4060 ti 8gb is for 439 dollars and 16gb is for 532 dollars the rx 6800 xt inst avaliable and rx 7700 xt is for 484 dollars all prices are from trusted seller/ online shops ,cheapest , prices are uptodate and plz suggest card price to performance wise which wont break the bank thanks
genuine question - for non-gaming purposes (but also occasional gaming), would you rather pick two 3090's or three 4070Ti Super's ? (both totalling 48GB vram)?
As far as I know the 4070ti super is equivalent to a 3090ti so, you’d have 3 of them, with a lesser power draw and probably cheaper depending on how you buy them.
US prices are wild, a 6750xt is like 360euro and a 4060 is like 275euro where I'm from. If the 6750xt was the same price I would love it xD, also the power here is EXPENSIVE, so 110watt vs like 220+- is a lot when you work+game 10h a day on it (give or take 100$ a year difference)
I upgraded from my 580 to a 2060 a few months back and its been great for esports and any games, played space marine 2 at locked 60 with dlss and its been great. I am a 1080p 60fps gamer currently though.
Used 3080 ti for $500 is a good deal that matches 4070S but with 100W more power draw. A lot of reviewers miss the memory bus width that helps with 4k vs 1080p.
Native, probably, unless the 3060 can't maintain 60+ without DLSS. Not like you can't try both though, it takes literal seconds to flick it on/off. Something like AMD's Virtual Super Resolution might be neat too, allowing you to, say, render the game at 1440P and then downscale it to 1080 if you have the performance headroom for it.
@@ualreadykno2K Don't forget to turn on DLAA in options in Cyberpunk for a much better image quality. Most games don't have DLAA, in those games i would recommend to use DLDSR in Nvidia panel, to set custom resolution to 1440p, than use DLSS balanced or even performance, it looks much better than native, and can even perform better.
I debated the 4070s vs 7900gre for quite a while. In the end I somewhat reluctantly went with the 4070s despite the vram limitations. It came down to my past positive experiences with Nvidia and the superior feature set.
I've got about 950 bucks to buy a new card. I'm debating between the 4080 and a 9700 XTX. Currently using a 3060 TI and I use 2X 2K monitors, one for gaming and the other one for Passive stuff so there is a little bit more of a load on my graphics card. I know that the 4080 is slightly better and has a bunch of more features, but uses 12 pin connectors and that's kind of a gimmick
Bought myself a 7800 XT a while back to go with my 7800X3D and it's been great for me, no need to upgrade for a good while. I don't really play demanding games (BG 3, Overwatch 2, World of Warcraft, Doom Eternal that sort of stuff) so it's ideal, plus I have zero interest in RT anyway
will you recommend 4070 ti super if is 193 usd more expensive from rx 7900 xt, and i talk about absolute cheapest nvidia model vs the gpu you show in video from asrock? Thanks
I've been interested in an AMD card for my next purchase, but I have a 4070 right now and I absolutely love DLSS Q, RDR2 and Cyberpunk in my opinion look better with DLSS Q, unless FSR up their game with 4 it'll be a reluctant swap
I went with the 4070 TiSuper. It's like comparing a 300hp Porsche to a 500hp mustang. They're both pretty incredible experiences. I like ray tracking but apparently my 5600x CPU is the limiting factor with RT enabled. With rt off I am usually above 100fps but with RT it drops to 50s sometimes. Framegen is great for this but I guess I gotta get a better cpu now.
@@christophermullins7163 imma be honest and its probably just my eyes but i can hardly tell a difference between RT being on or off. Just wanted a card that could pump out high frames in 4k.
@@christophermullins7163 Well 4070ti su wiould have been my first choice but the price of 900 wasnt great to me. i dont have games where i would like the RT and since they are head a head and i play cod and warzone where amd shines, there was no Nvidia GPU near the 600€ i would buy. highest i could get was the 4070 super that would not do great in 4k with 12 gb vram.
Your video is very educational and helpful but I would recommend one change Ngreedia so called features like DLSS should be called what they are, anticonsumer lock-in tech, which main function is to keep you locked into their hardware. That's not a feature that helps gamers. See how many games out there are forever tainted with that and if you dont have a Ngreedia GPU, you are locked out. Keep up the good work.
Your sentiments are spot on. But, unfortunately NO ONE cares. 😂 They did this during the PhysX era and failed. I guess they succeeded now with enough mindshare (mindROT would be apt, I'd say). I wouldn't even be surprised if the RTX 5090 would be priced at $1999 at launch because the same people who complain are still gonna buy it anyways. 😂😂 Alas, GPU market isn't going to improve anytime soon.
This ignores NVENC. If you edit, record, or render videos at all, then NVENC is SO much faster than any other single hardware encoder. And guess what: the number 1 dream job for kids is TH-camr/streamer.
I went from a GTX 1060 6GB to RX 6750 XT and I LOVE IT! People complaining about AMD drivers are either delusional or they haven't actuslly tried them lol
Never ever buy a top card at the end of generation. If you end up not satisfied with a new gen you can still buy an old one after a significant price drop, new or used. But more often than not new gen "80 series" would be a better buy than an old "90 series" and will be a better sell on a 2nd hand market afterwards.
Man, I still see my "meager" RX 6600 allways in charts. I got that Asus one 2 years ago for 210$ new on Amazon. It does 120 fps on Enlisted settings high, and with AFMF it doese 210 fps. On the other system I have the RX 6750 XT. That does 200 fps on high settings on Enlisted and with AFMF it does 310 fps. Those GPU's are heavily undervolted and the RX 6750 XT underclocked since my UPS is only 350 Watts overall. What do you want more as the RX 6600 for basics like Enlisted, Hell Let Loose and Squad 44.
I have a 4070 Ti and I have never used Ray Tracing. It hurts performance so much. Can't imagine someone with a lower tier card actually using the feature. Maybe is you have a 1080p monitor but even than I don't think it's worth it.
3080 10gb Vram or 16gb, 10gb isn't going to last long at all an is already outdated for some games due to vram usage in newer releases. Get a RX6700xt 12Gb or RX 6800/6800xt 16Gb instead
Saying the 6650 while showing charts that in 1440p the A750 was faster was interesting. In the 2-300price the A770is and interesting option as although the average framerate may suffer slightly the 1% and 0.1% lows are often better so making a smoother experience. Probably the cheapest 1440p card available.
last year i bought the 6800 non xt, here in Canada Graphic cards were pretty expensive. I was looking between 6800-6800xt and 6750xt but with a good sale i got the 6800 cheaper than 6750xt lol which was still over 530$ :(, 6800xt was around 700 and higher so that was a no brainer. I have had no regret and played many type of games and it does really well.
Just upgraded my gpu from a 7600xt to a 6900xt. Paid $400 on Jawa. A site like that or ebay Is the way I would go if money is your biggest restriction. Just be careful. The cool thing is it's going to upgrade my kids pc's since my oldest son will get the 7600xt out of my rig and the youngest son will get the gtx1060 6 gig that was in the oldest boys rig. They love it when I upgrade because it means they get my old parts lol.
7600 doesn't have AI cores. It like the rest of the 7000 series can run some AI tasks in parallel on the shaders. But the dedicated matrix cores where not given to gamers, those are only on the more expensive CDNA (professional) cards. A theoretical future AI upscaler would have to run in a DP4A mode on 7000 series like XeSS does.
Yo, hope this helps!
If you are interested in picked anything up, affiliate links are in the description! All goes to support the channel! Appreciate it and good luck.
ALSO! Didn't find this out until after the video, BUT there is huge bundle if you purchase any RX 7000 series GPU (except the RX 7600 non-XT) at the moment. You can get up to 2 games and some options include: Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2, Unknown 9: Awakening, and much more! To get the bundle you have to purchase your GPU or select CPU through Amazon or Newegg, then you claim it through your order. I'm leaving some links below explain some things if you are interested (personally I think imma pick up an RX 7700 XT and get Space Marine 2 lol).
www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/new-amd-gaming-bundle-for-ryzen-7000-cpus-and-radeon-rx-7000-gpus
www.amd.com/en/gaming/featured-games.html
That sweetens the deal quite a bit, especially if you are interested in any of the games
i just built a 7800x3d and rx 6950xt new for 479$ total system cost under 1500$
40:00 4090 cost whole +2200 Euro in Sweden and not even close to msrp, for me msrp looks good price but not price we have becuze of politics in Sweden.
rest in EU have high price too not fun and we pay more tax.
Wait, no 3080 ti? It's a beast, performs like 4070s/7900 gre/3090. I don't know about the used market in the USA, but it can be found for 400-450 euros here in Europe.
@@markomarkovic5729 I picked up a 3090 @$600.00 (open box) remember BB launched these @$699.00
hello should i buy used 2060s gpu in 2024? i have 5600g and B450 and bought in 2022 but now I need a GPU so is it good to buy used one in 2024?
I upgraded from an RX 470 to an RX 6600 for 285 USD and I am very happy with my purchase. In my country graphics cards are expensive. I can finally play modern AAA titles!
That's an upgrade! Enjoy 😊
That's cool! I upgraded from an RX 480 to an RX 5700 XT for ~$130 USD and I'm also very happy with the performance gains. It's allowed me to move up from 1080p to 1440p as I don't play very graphically heavily titles (no RT). I also find GPUs to be rather expensive here in the UK compared to most of the US. With AAA titles, I can go up to Ultra settings at 1080p, and do at least medium settings at 1440p with playable framerates.
W country?
@@BelaPuma *L country
@@monotheisticmortal5122 thank you
Glad to see more love for the 6600, I got it because of your last video on this topic and have been loving it 😁
non xt version is great for 1080p. the xt version or now the refreshed 6650xt is ok for 1440p but that is probably the minimum in performance for that resolution.
JUST FOUND A 4060 TI 16GB FOR 340$ TODAY UPGRADED FROM A 3050 IM HAPPY!!!!
Always good to see people happy with their upgrades. Congrats, buddy🎉
Insane deal, congrats!
wish i could have such a bargain
upgraded from 1080(sold it for 150$) and bought a 4060 for 280$. On paper the performance should be similar but I'm getting minikum 40% more fps in all games...
Honestly, if you're going to be building a PC that will cost you more than 2K USD, you should 100% wait since new expensive parts will be coming out very soon. RTX 5080, RX 8800 XT, Core Ultra 7 265K, Ryzen 7 9800X3D for example. However, if you're building a PC under $2000 then just use the parts that are being sold now because we won't get something like an RTX 5060 until Summer 2025.
Hi there, I’m new to the pc building world, I was wondering if there is a history of past GPU series going for less once the latest series are released? I want to build my first pc and don’t know if I should just wait. Waiting on Prime day next month and Black Friday and cyber Monday to get all my parts.
@@SK_30241 Slightly but not really. Pre-owned, certainly since you have everyone dumping their cards for the new ones lol
i've always preferred efficiency over value. it's why i started with intel and moved over to ryzen when the 3000s came out. it's why i recently chose an r5 5600 and a 4060 for my second sister instead of a 7600. she mostly plays roblox anyways. it's cheaper long term on the electricity bill. she was using a 960 before paired with an 85 watt intel cpu. considering she's still happy with 1080p, that system will definitely last past 2030.
_Wants to build a 2k euros worth of pc since pretty much middle-start year_
_gotta wait even more because the big corpos woke up and started releasing and spreading rumors about their new tech_
Im waiting. Besides, arent we forgetting that we should also be waiting for new CPU's? Im not a huge parts nerd so im not sure if the intel I9 will minimize the usefulness of the 5090. but I would assume that would be the case. Am I wrong?
Here in Dominican Republic I got an open box RX 7900 XTX for $580.00 and got a brand new RTX 4070 Ti super for $660.00 on eBay. I got the AMD card for a friend and the Nvidia one was for me and I’m pretty happy with this GPU
The 7900XTX is better than the 4070 Ti Super, your friend got a better deal.
Scored a 6800 new for $359 ( $388 with tax ) a few weeks ago, going in a new build shortly
6800 is GOAT, just make sure the xfx model will fit your case, it's over 340 mm.
@@n8spL8 My case can hold 400mm cards
I did the exact same 2 weeks ago! I finished my build last week, and am loving it! It's a beast so far.
Nice I’m debating that or a used 3080 12gb
@@n8spL8 My PC case can hold up to 400 mm.
I just recently got the 4070Ti Super and I am loving it so far.
I can run any game I want and max out the graphics and ray tracing in 4k and still get over 60 frames (unless its like CP77 then I need DLSS and frame gen)
How is it for 2k gaming?
@@Roei18 It should be able to handle anything and everything you throw at it in 2k for years to come
yeah I was waiting for the 7900XT / GRE, ended up going with the 6950XT because it was available new in my country and the 4070 was a few hundred dollars more
Hell yeah bro that’s a really fast gpu! I’m sure you’ll be really happy
Same here 😊
Just got myself a 3070 for 150€ just last week on ebay. An HP OEM version, but it was brand new and sealed in its antistatic bag. Extremely happy with it for 1440p, replacing my previous 5600XT which was getting some annoying driver crash in some old games after the last updates.
Upgrading from the 5600xt was huge for me I hope it is for you! A 3070 is a nice card!
A 3070 for 150€ wth that IS a very good deal, in what country ?
That’s interesting about the 5600 XT having driver crash issues. I’ve still got my old 5700 XT in a backup system and it’s always ran flawlessly. 3070 class is definitely a nice upgrade.
@@Sonicstillpoint83 Yeah, not sure if it's related to thermals or simply the card being on its way out. It's a trashy Mech OC version, but temps were fine for the most part (max 85° at max load in summer, with undervolted to 915mV, stock frequency). Updated Drivers (WHQL only) were ALWAYS installed after a clean wipe via DDU. Could maybe get lower temps with an aggressive fan curve, but Mech Oc fans are trash and loud. at 50% it's literally a jet engine, at 100% is a whole airport -.-'
The thing is it crashed often in games when it needed to load some game section, so not sure if the vram were getting hot. Still haven't found a way to test it yet, since it's on my older rig with a Xeon e3 1220v2 (i7 3770). So I can't stress test it there. Maybe I'll try finding a deal on a cheap intel 9th gen rig or something and test it out that way.
Extremely happy with my 3070 HP so far, card runs fine I just need to get around getting some 2mm thermal pads, as the one I've replaced are a bit on the hard side (they make contacts and temps are fine though, max 68° at max load with undervolt+300mhz core OC, no memory OC though). Moreover, I can push the fans up to 50% (2000rpm) before even hearing some noise, while the 5600xt Mech OC at 30% (about 2400rpm) was twice as loud. Btw it's paired with a Ryzen 5 5600 in a fairly ventilated old school corsair 540 with 3x 120mm intake front, 1x 80mm small intake in GPU bracket, 1x 120mm exhaust in the back and 1x 140mm exhaust on the top.
Good shout out on current cards. I do think waiting a bit longer for RDNA 4 might be worth it. Especially if the rumors are true and we actually get some acceptable RT performance and most likely FSR 4.0 with Ai upscaling. If the top end one (8800XT) ends up close to a 4080 performance in raster at $500-600 that would be an amazing buy.
Hopefully the lower end one brings back some value to the low end because that market has been largely neglected by both AMD and Nvidia.
Any date updates?
The amount of vram in the graphics card of this generation is genuinely INSULTING.
TRUUUUE
You mean Nvidia insulting its customers... and they are liking it
I got screwed last time (GTX 1060). Yes I'm never buying this crap new ever again.
It seems to weird to benchmark old or low end GPUs at 1440p. Should probably stick to 1080p on those older/lower end GPUs.
You're right, altho it still useful to compare GPUs.
Got my 6700xt used for 200$ works great had it for about 3 months still going strong. Temps are great power is good I think going used for lower end cards is better option but on high tier it’s not worth it.
This is an odd time frame for me, I'm 50, massive Computer nerd through the 80's, 90's, 2000's (C64, Amiga 500, Amiga 1200, PC) then life got REAL busy!
3 children (one deceased), marriage, mortgage.. etc. Finally got somewhat back into PC builds and gaming after 20 years. Got a brilliant motherboard, awesome CPU, great ram but it appears I've stuffed up with the Video Card after spending $750 AU on a Geforce Ti 4060 16GB Card.
Oh well, can't win em all... stress, life, hardship.. etc does a number on your logic.
7900 GRE mem OC >>>>>>>
I keep finding deals for GRE's for like 150-200$ less than the Nvidia equivalent. Newegg deals and amazon deals and such.
The overclocking in the AMD is simple and it works. I got about an 8% increase on my 7900 gre just by clicking two buttons
I prefer buying used GPUs. I havent had an issue with one.
if you can test them on spot then sure, cause some people either hand over cooked card and adios. had that once happen to myself.
@@kaimojepaslt i do this and i love it
ez money😀
@@kaimojepaslt Always try to buy off a reputable seller that has reviews.
Sometimes I'll tell the seller that I want to test the card. When they say yes, I say don't worry about it, because I know their willingness to test means the card is more than likely good.
@@Josh-cw8by This. In an act of desperation I bought a janky Nitro+ 5700XT from China. Shit works but heatsink fins are mildly corroded, back panel was slightly bent and there was some minor scratches on the shroud and backpanel (it's a mining card). Was a Great deal! It was $125USD. I repasted it and swapped the thermal pads with putty. I stopped using it after I bought the GRE.
@@KaRuNaRuGa That's awesome. A little bit of effort saved you a lot of cash.
Love these 2-monthly videos! Very informative, keep going!
7900xt and esc 7900xtx are killing it at Stable diffusion and where i live xtx are sold out bcs if that reason, 24gb of vram for almost half price of 4090. AMD is coming big time in AI game...
You got a guide for stable diffusion on windows? I'm about to pull the trigger on the 7900xt myself, and I'd like to know how to get it up and running.
@@VS-cx7pd No on Linux but you can emulate Linux on Win machine if its a husle to install it. But on windows you have Amuse 2.0.1 that offers some selection of decent models including Flux.1 and its quite fun.I run 7800xt only on 64gb am4 machine with 5800x3d.. If you find good deal on xtx go for it. I have a feeling that veam will become even more expensive with new GPUs esc from Nvidia side.
@@VS-cx7pd Highly suggest Nvidia for anything AI Related unless you want to do Linux as ROCm right now is only on Linux, Windows will only Use DirectML which is slow but still doable, for your all in one Image Generation needs i suggest Stability Matrix and Using ComfyUI for inference, It allows you to download all the models you want from hugging face and Civitai with the click of a button. Look up some tutorials to get it up and running.
In Windows? I thought it’s only possible in Linux and with a few workarounds and many plugins not working etc??
It takes round 10 mins to setup automatic1111 in Windows and AMD gpus are very fast for SD.
TIRED OF PEOPLE TALKING DOWN ON THE 4060! I built a system for 1080p 60fps gaming, and the 4060 is awesome because the model I got is super quiet, runs very cool and also the 4060 doesn't use a lot of power at all. paired it with a 12400f and 32gb of ddr5 ram, and it destroys at 1080p 60fps gaming on my living room tv. i am a 4060 enjoyer!
It's just clickbait, the video is pretty positive about the 4060 if you watch it.
Get a better monitor. I’m sure it can dish out significantly more than 60fps on all but the most intensive games.
@@jmass4207 Well i did build this pc specifically for my 1080p 60hz living room tv. i already have like 3 monitors, and I already did test it on my 165hz 1080p monitor. and it does indeed get way above 60fps.
You also could have included the used market on higher end and current generation GPUs. 4080, 4070 Ti Super, 7900 XT, and 7900 XTX are all available used often for $50-$100 off the current pricing with the added bonus that these cards have only been used for a year or two.
tbh for entry level and mid tier better to hold off buying any gpu until Jan-Feb next year with new gen releases from Nvidia and amd.
They usually release their high-end gpus first, then the mid to entry level gpus come after.
@@sircartdarkand then you wait for overpriced mid range to lower prices, so another 9-12 moths or more before they make sense
@@gameison4813 that's facts lol
leaks suggest that the rtx 5080 is just an rtx 4090 with a 40% boost, which is still not enough for Alan Wake 2 at max lol so i suggest buying the cheapest RTX 4070 Super as it's worth your buck keeping it future proof while retaining its cheapness
I bought my RX 5700 XT about 2 years ago for 250$ CAD... it's wonderful.
Running on a Ryzen 5800X... I plan on upgrading to either an RX 6800 or probably will wait a bit more to get a 7800 XT or 7900 GRE (which would be the max my PC can take as I like balance)
The expensive cards above... only if I start to get good work contract as for now... My income doesn't allow me to treat myself.
This is super helpful! Would you do a similiar format for other components? Like which CPUs, fans, motherboards, PSUs, etc are actually worth buying and why?
RX 7600 (8GB) is going strong in my current build for gaming atm even tho it's purpose was for the Av1 Encoder which will be utilized next year whenever the highest RX 8000 series comes gonna be great paired with Elgato's 4k X Capture Card can't wait to run 2 PC's with a KVM Switch :D
Just scored a 4070 Ti Super Expert card straight from MSI for $729 during their sale last week. Couldn't be happier for holding out to upgrade my 3060 Ti. Only downside for me is this new card is a chonky boy to fit into my sff case. But i made it fit.
I use RT on my 3060 all the time, admittidly mostly reflection but not always & come on its a 3060! but it makes everything look so much better! If you use it right and tweak settings rather than max everything and slap it on! basically remove the stuff Rasta does to fake the look of what RT delivers (added highlights/shading ect. usually in ultra/extreme lighting/shadows, set these 2 to high tends to works well for me) The perfomance impact can be far less than you would think and look better to me than maxed out Rasta. I play my RT titles above 120fps 1080p with the 3060 12gb.
I've got a 5700XT! It's the business. I remember being afraid that I couldn't run Star Wars Outlaws, because of some of the trailers that came out. The game runs amazing and looks amazing. Keep in mind that I'm only doing 1080p on my old TV, but I'm fine with that. I'll upgrade my card if I ever care to upgrade my TV. I'm sure the 5700xt is gonna be great for a couple more years, at least.
I just got a 3070 FTW3 Ultra for $240 was that a good deal? I upgraded from a now nine year old 980ti Windforce. It even uses 30w less power. I recently learned that a monitor or display output can cause a bottleneck so I am waiting for a 4k monitor to arrive now. I spent 460 total. Last time I upgraded I spent 600 and that was almost six years ago now.
As someone that doesn't really care about upscaling and RT, the 7800XT is great for 1440p and I can definitely recommend it for a good price ! Tho I did see some games struggling a little at that resolution (like FFXVI, but it seems to be the port that is not really optimized)
I want to upgrade from 2060 super in your opinion better get 7700 xt ($390) or rx 6800 ($360)? Both brand new. Or should i just wait for the next gen gpu? Im using ryzen 5 7500f for the cpu
My 4070 still kicking @almost max settings with dlss I run most games 70-90 fps and steady framtimes but I feel it struggling
4070ti Super owner here. Got it as soon as it launched. Great card and very happy with performance. Built new system and got it to play Alan Wake 2.
I just recently bought a 4070super found on a flash sale for £500, the 7900 GRE is £550. To me it was a no brainer to go for the 4070super. Upgrading from a 2070super that lasted for 4 years and could still run every game with mid/high settings at 1440p
What would be the best GPU for my dad? He has 0 interest in games, but still wants a high end PC in the general sense.
I was thinking about getting him an RX 580 from XFX. The Intel arc seems like it could be a good choice if it was cheaper.
For future proofing, at minimum it needs to be able to run 3x 4K monitors at 60 Hz. I think the RX 580 could do that and it's like $120 rn.
I scored a 5700 XT for $120 (Sapphire Pulse), slapped PTM-7950 in it and overclocked the crap out of it so now it absolutely mogs an RTX 3060.
Absolute banger GPU now that the drivers are nice and mature.
Why no mention of the RX 6700 XT in the Used $200-$300 section? I just bought one for $209 shipped and it solves the VRAM problem of the 3060 Ti / 3070
LMAO i was going CRAZY comparing GPUs and ended up with the rx 6600 xt with the price range I was lookin for so glad your video confirmed it for me for sure now
I have G9 HP Elite Desk 600 Small Form Factor with I7 13700. Looking for a good card for that machine. What would you recommend?
I just purchased a Sapphire Nitro+ 7900 XTX until the 5090s come out and it's not only the prettiest GPU of them all, it's actually really good at gaming. I love it.
Bro don't forget about used RTX 2080ti 11GB. These GPUs are now harder to find, but if you can get one for around $250-300 it's the best Nvidia option below Rtx 4070.
Performance is close to 3070, but extra 3GB basically solves Vram problems. Obviously you also have DLSS available.
I heard the memory chips on that one have high failure rates, it could be risky.
@@lharsay Yeah Micron chips can fail on them, so it's good idea to verify if it has Samsung memory.
I got the same white Asrock Phantom gaming 7900 XT. The card is an absolute beast. It OCs well too.
My 6700xt sapphire pulse is a beast for 1080p! 4K is appealing but i think gaming will go more towards 1440 moving forward.
I just bought an RX 5600 XT for 85 dollars, but i always like to keep on touch
Thoughts on rtx 3080? Picked one up for $400
Im getting a 6900 xt (used) for 350 us dollars, crazy price to performance.
Greate video! Please compare also "power budged" not only raw performance :)
trying to decide 6800 xt or 3080 10gb only $20 difference any suggestions.
from 1050ti i upgrade to rx 6650xt..im happy with it
Should I waiting for 5090 or just buy 4090 at the moment??? I'm working on Unreal engine development
4070 only has 12gb vram, won't that be an issue going forward? atleast 7800xt has 16gb vram
well where i like India Maharashtra the rx 7800xt goes for 573 dollars the rtx 4070 goes for 631 dollars the rtx 4060 ti 8gb is for 439 dollars and 16gb is for 532 dollars the rx 6800 xt inst avaliable and rx 7700 xt is for 484 dollars all prices are from trusted seller/ online shops ,cheapest , prices are uptodate and plz suggest card price to performance wise which wont break the bank thanks
I have a 4080 FE and got a deal on the MSI 4090 Suprim X for $1500 out the door from Lenovo of all places. It is a beast! (4080 did not suck obv).
genuine question - for non-gaming purposes (but also occasional gaming), would you rather pick two 3090's or three 4070Ti Super's ? (both totalling 48GB vram)?
As far as I know the 4070ti super is equivalent to a 3090ti so, you’d have 3 of them, with a lesser power draw and probably cheaper depending on how you buy them.
US prices are wild, a 6750xt is like 360euro and a 4060 is like 275euro where I'm from. If the 6750xt was the same price I would love it xD, also the power here is EXPENSIVE, so 110watt vs like 220+- is a lot when you work+game 10h a day on it (give or take 100$ a year difference)
I am still extremely happy I have bought "used" brand new A770 16gb predator for 100$ because people believed intel cards suck!
I upgraded from my 580 to a 2060 a few months back and its been great for esports and any games, played space marine 2 at locked 60 with dlss and its been great. I am a 1080p 60fps gamer currently though.
When do you think will amd or nvdia launch their next 500$ ish cards?
Ok so we have black friday/cyber monday and 5 series gpus right around the corner. Is it not a good idea to just wait to buy used/new in the market?
built my first pc this july and i managed to pickup asrock 6750 xt its a great card, hopefully it'll serve me good on 1080p for a while.
Just got a RX 6900XT Sapphire Nitro SE for just 300 bucks used with leftover warranty. Can‘t be happier with it.
Used 3080 ti for $500 is a good deal that matches 4070S but with 100W more power draw. A lot of reviewers miss the memory bus width that helps with 4k vs 1080p.
Should I upgrade a 6750 xt to a 7900 xt
Is way cheaper than 4070 ti super in my country
Or I wait for the new generation
i just bought a 3060 12gb last 2 months ago! i play in 1080p, should i use dlss in cyberpunk or just native?
Native, probably, unless the 3060 can't maintain 60+ without DLSS. Not like you can't try both though, it takes literal seconds to flick it on/off.
Something like AMD's Virtual Super Resolution might be neat too, allowing you to, say, render the game at 1440P and then downscale it to 1080 if you have the performance headroom for it.
@@RotaryJunkie native can run 60 fps. guess I'll keep it on native then
@@ualreadykno2K Don't forget to turn on DLAA in options in Cyberpunk for a much better image quality. Most games don't have DLAA, in those games i would recommend to use DLDSR in Nvidia panel, to set custom resolution to 1440p, than use DLSS balanced or even performance, it looks much better than native, and can even perform better.
I debated the 4070s vs 7900gre for quite a while. In the end I somewhat reluctantly went with the 4070s despite the vram limitations. It came down to my past positive experiences with Nvidia and the superior feature set.
I've got about 950 bucks to buy a new card. I'm debating between the 4080 and a 9700 XTX. Currently using a 3060 TI and I use 2X 2K monitors, one for gaming and the other one for Passive stuff so there is a little bit more of a load on my graphics card. I know that the 4080 is slightly better and has a bunch of more features, but uses 12 pin connectors and that's kind of a gimmick
Amd cars are really good at AI with ROCm and zluda. That amount of vram for a price is massive. 12gig cards just won't cut it.
Bought myself a 7800 XT a while back to go with my 7800X3D and it's been great for me, no need to upgrade for a good while. I don't really play demanding games (BG 3, Overwatch 2, World of Warcraft, Doom Eternal that sort of stuff) so it's ideal, plus I have zero interest in RT anyway
just bought RX 6800 for $310 , is it good deal?😢
In my country for that price, i will get 3060. Definitely it's W.
will you recommend 4070 ti super if is 193 usd more expensive from rx 7900 xt, and i talk about absolute cheapest nvidia model vs the gpu you show in video from asrock? Thanks
I've been interested in an AMD card for my next purchase, but I have a 4070 right now and I absolutely love DLSS Q, RDR2 and Cyberpunk in my opinion look better with DLSS Q, unless FSR up their game with 4 it'll be a reluctant swap
Opinion on 2080 ti for $230?
I just picked up a reference 7800xt for $410 USD. Its been a great upgrade from my 6650xt
Loving my 7900xt i built earlier this year.
snatched the gigabyte OC 7900xt for 590 €. I am very happy with it playing all my games in 4k :)
I went with the 4070 TiSuper. It's like comparing a 300hp Porsche to a 500hp mustang. They're both pretty incredible experiences. I like ray tracking but apparently my 5600x CPU is the limiting factor with RT enabled. With rt off I am usually above 100fps but with RT it drops to 50s sometimes. Framegen is great for this but I guess I gotta get a better cpu now.
@@christophermullins7163 imma be honest and its probably just my eyes but i can hardly tell a difference between RT being on or off. Just wanted a card that could pump out high frames in 4k.
@@christophermullins7163 Well 4070ti su wiould have been my first choice but the price of 900 wasnt great to me. i dont have games where i would like the RT and since they are head a head and i play cod and warzone where amd shines, there was no Nvidia GPU near the 600€ i would buy. highest i could get was the 4070 super that would not do great in 4k with 12 gb vram.
Your video is very educational and helpful but I would recommend one change
Ngreedia so called features like DLSS should be called what they are, anticonsumer lock-in tech, which main function is to keep you locked into their hardware.
That's not a feature that helps gamers.
See how many games out there are forever tainted with that and if you dont have a Ngreedia GPU, you are locked out.
Keep up the good work.
Your sentiments are spot on. But, unfortunately NO ONE cares. 😂 They did this during the PhysX era and failed. I guess they succeeded now with enough mindshare (mindROT would be apt, I'd say). I wouldn't even be surprised if the RTX 5090 would be priced at $1999 at launch because the same people who complain are still gonna buy it anyways. 😂😂 Alas, GPU market isn't going to improve anytime soon.
@@KaRuNaRuGa sadly, you are correct.
All we can do is continue trying to educate the uneducated instead of rolling over.
This ignores NVENC. If you edit, record, or render videos at all, then NVENC is SO much faster than any other single hardware encoder. And guess what: the number 1 dream job for kids is TH-camr/streamer.
@@mckinleyostvig7135 Let's be real. No one is going to be recording and editing every single day. Most gpus are just used for games
Just got my first pre build cpu amd 7600 gpu rx 7600. Gunna be happy coming from a laptop.
I went from a GTX 1060 6GB to RX 6750 XT and I LOVE IT! People complaining about AMD drivers are either delusional or they haven't actuslly tried them lol
@Vex would you recommend a 7900XT for 600$ or a 4070 Super for 520$??? Wanna use RT aswell. I can decide!
Just get the super.
the 7600 actually has a good AV1 encoder, I record gameplay with it.
Never ever buy a top card at the end of generation. If you end up not satisfied with a new gen you can still buy an old one after a significant price drop, new or used. But more often than not new gen "80 series" would be a better buy than an old "90 series" and will be a better sell on a 2nd hand market afterwards.
I'm still on mt 6950xt. It's my favorite GPU right now. I love it.
Man, I still see my "meager" RX 6600 allways in charts. I got that Asus one 2 years ago for 210$ new on Amazon. It does 120 fps on Enlisted settings high, and with AFMF it doese 210 fps.
On the other system I have the RX 6750 XT. That does 200 fps on high settings on Enlisted and with AFMF it does 310 fps. Those GPU's are heavily undervolted and the RX 6750 XT underclocked since my UPS is only 350 Watts overall.
What do you want more as the RX 6600 for basics like Enlisted, Hell Let Loose and Squad 44.
dont forget the 3080 12gb, thats also a very strong contender, perfect 1440p card smashes everything.
I have a 4070 Ti and I have never used Ray Tracing. It hurts performance so much. Can't imagine someone with a lower tier card actually using the feature. Maybe is you have a 1080p monitor but even than I don't think it's worth it.
300gbp for 3080 cop or drop?
3080 10gb Vram or 16gb, 10gb isn't going to last long at all an is already outdated for some games due to vram usage in newer releases. Get a RX6700xt 12Gb or RX 6800/6800xt 16Gb instead
4070 Super is very good gpu with what u getting price to performance, amazing GPU.
Best channel 😊ur blessed man😊
Got my xfx black 7900xt for 650$ plus 80 off in Amazon rewards. Thats a win.
7900xt 20G of VRAM not overkill . Probably the most future proof in raster. I only wish my 4080 had 20.
I'm shopping for a gpu now for a egpu setup and 2060 super and 2070 super are now around 150-180 euro in Germany.
Pretty neat
Bought the 4070ti super
Greedia finally gives us proper vram fkr once😅
Saying the 6650 while showing charts that in 1440p the A750 was faster was interesting. In the 2-300price the A770is and interesting option as although the average framerate may suffer slightly the 1% and 0.1% lows are often better so making a smoother experience. Probably the cheapest 1440p card available.
6800XT is $399 brand new on Amazon.
6950XT is $499 brand new on Amazon
It crazy that they were unable to sell through them in the past two years. The 3090 and 3080 disappeared in a month around when the 4090 was released.
The 6800XT is a scam I'm pretty sure
last year i bought the 6800 non xt, here in Canada Graphic cards were pretty expensive. I was looking between 6800-6800xt and 6750xt but with a good sale i got the 6800 cheaper than 6750xt lol which was still over 530$ :(, 6800xt was around 700 and higher so that was a no brainer. I have had no regret and played many type of games and it does really well.
NITRO+ AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT 12gb or Asus 4060 OC 8gb?
TF are those options? 😂 Bro just get the shitty 4050 so you don't go around complaining about stability and drivers with the 6700 XT.
score a 7900 xtx nitro + for 750$ on FB marketplace I got to say never been happier with my damn purchase. We've come a long way from a rx 580.
Just upgraded my gpu from a 7600xt to a 6900xt. Paid $400 on Jawa. A site like that or ebay Is the way I would go if money is your biggest restriction. Just be careful. The cool thing is it's going to upgrade my kids pc's since my oldest son will get the 7600xt out of my rig and the youngest son will get the gtx1060 6 gig that was in the oldest boys rig. They love it when I upgrade because it means they get my old parts lol.
rtx3080 $299 ex-mining is it worth it?
7600 doesn't have AI cores. It like the rest of the 7000 series can run some AI tasks in parallel on the shaders. But the dedicated matrix cores where not given to gamers, those are only on the more expensive CDNA (professional) cards. A theoretical future AI upscaler would have to run in a DP4A mode on 7000 series like XeSS does.